/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/18/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

* cjohnston is still really sore00:20
Pendulumcjohnston: I don't want to know00:22
cjohnstonI'm sure you are worse... but between the planes and the bed00:22
cjohnstonmy back is hurting00:23
Pendulum:(00:23
cjohnstonplenty of work for me to do coming up though00:23
cjohnstonanother call00:24
Pendulumg'luck00:24
cjohnstonluck is not needed00:52
cjohnstonheh00:52
Pendulumwell that was meant as "hope it's not a long or overly taxing call"00:58
cjohnstonlol00:58
cjohnstonbs00:58
cjohnstonas most are00:58
Pendulumyep01:03
doctormohey Pendulum03:25
nigelbdoctormo: heya!03:31
nigelbdoctormo: had a nice UDS?03:32
czajkowskiAloha07:05
czajkowskihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg07:05
czajkowskivideo from Friday night07:05
dholbachgood morning07:13
czajkowskitis rather quiet this morning in here07:17
dpmgood morning everyone07:20
dholbachhola dpm07:20
dpmhey dholbach, moin07:20
dholbachhola ara!07:37
aramorning dholbach :)07:38
dholbachpopey, pleia2: going to be at the CC meeting later on?08:33
popeydholbach: yup09:20
czajkowskiFor those who like big bang theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1-Q_8EbB8A Ubuntu :)09:24
dholbachpopey: awesome10:22
* popey checks the time of the meeting to be sure10:23
popeyso 12:00 BST10:23
dholbachSO! WHO OF YOU WAS IT!11:27
dholbachI think I'm getting the Ubuflu... just after UDS this time11:27
Pendulumaww :(11:28
* Pendulum hugs dholbach 11:28
dholbachI'll make sure I'll survive :)11:29
* dholbach hugs Pendulum back11:29
jussidholbach: it was mark. He wasnt so well at UDS...11:30
dholbachsladen is the usual suspect - he always was it :)11:31
dholbachask jcastro11:31
* czajkowski is dying sick since saturday11:32
czajkowskigot it from the guy at our dinner on friday night11:32
czajkowskihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg friday night all stars11:33
popeyhah, sladen was fine11:33
* popey has no ubuflu \o/11:33
jussime either!11:38
dholbachthat's what I thought yesterday too! ;-)11:39
akgranerGood Morning! :-)13:13
Pendulumhiya akgraner13:18
akgranerPendulum, :-)13:19
nigelbhola13:22
nigelbczajkowski: thank you thank you thank you! (for the video)13:23
czajkowskiheh13:24
nigelbJFo rocks as usual ;)13:26
Pendulumnigelb: you have to come to the next UDS so you can see JFo rock in person!13:27
nigelbPendulum: I definitely have to!13:27
nigelbpopey: any plenary videos available yet?13:27
* nigelb really would like to see momubuntu with slides13:27
popeyyeah, loads of them13:27
popeyoh, that one isnt13:27
cjohnstonmornin13:28
czajkowskigah I'm getting tons of mail and none of it is the mail I want!!13:28
nigelbhaha, what is the mail you want?13:28
cjohnstontrhe mail i sent her13:28
nigelblol13:29
cjohnstons/trhe/the13:29
czajkowskicjohnston: your mail goes to a special place13:29
cjohnstontrash or spam13:29
nigelbyeah, spam box :D13:29
nigelbI wish US visa stuff wasn't so complicated, sigh13:30
cjohnston:-/13:30
Pendulum:(13:33
nigelbI'll probably end up saying for next UDS 'I'm not there because I didn't get a visa' grrr13:34
nigelbAnyone saw what elky did for the UW competition?13:36
* nigelb is liking the audio13:36
akgraneryeah the video is awesome...13:39
akgranerTweeted, dented and facebooked it earlier...13:39
nigelbI need to blog it13:40
nigelbSigh, I'm on the planet so much after uds started13:40
nigelbanyone missing gobby and remember me being in the session, poke me if the gobby is lost, I have copies of most sessions I've attended (mostly community)13:42
cjohnstonthe community web page one13:43
cjohnstondont remember if you were ther13:43
nigelbI wasn't, sorry :(13:44
nigelbcjohnston: is the open week and developer week gobby still around?13:46
cjohnstonedunno13:46
nigelbakgraner: ^ ?13:46
cjohnstondunno13:46
cjohnstonnot logged in13:46
Pendulumi'm about to get on gobby, do y'all want me to check?13:47
akgranernigelb, I'll take a look - not logged into to gobby right this sec...13:47
akgranerPendulum, can you please?13:47
nigelbI restored raound 3 gobby's so far13:48
nigelbso anything more I can help out :)13:48
* akgraner is allergic to gobby... :-/13:48
* nigelb likes it so far13:48
cjohnston+113:48
nigelbexcept I got only a bright pink13:48
Pendulumwhat was it called?13:48
* czajkowski loves gobby13:48
nigelbum, some tution something?13:49
Pendulumi'm not seeing it13:49
Pendulumcan you throw it up there?13:49
* nigelb goes to login13:49
nigelbDone.13:50
akgranernigelb, I know how to use - but gobby and I are not friends at them moment.. sorta like wiki's and I a year ago13:50
nigelbakgraner: only trouble is you get practice only once in 6 months, so it might take several years before you become friends ;)13:51
nigelbPendulum: check community-m-tuition-sessions now?13:51
Pendulumnigelb: you're a star :)\13:52
akgranernigelb, I'll stick to just being and acquaintance of gobby...:-)13:52
akgraners/and/an13:52
nigelbakgraner: haha ;)13:52
nigelbPendulum: nah, just following czajkowski's advice.  Save every minute13:52
Pendulumakgraner: you don't have any action items listed on this. :P13:52
akgranerPendulum, I don't?  whew!13:52
akgranerwas I supposed to...13:53
czajkowskiaye save locally :D13:53
nigelbPendulum: ooh, thats a rare community bluprint.  No akgraner actions!13:53
czajkowskiALWAYS13:53
Pendulumakgraner: don't think so, but just thought you'd be happy to know :)13:53
* akgraner does the happy dance :-)13:53
nigelbczajkowski: Just restored 4 documents :)13:53
czajkowski:)13:54
PendulumJust because I know I should, doesn't mean I remember to do so :)13:54
Pendulum(luckily for me between nigelb and czajkowski I suspect most sessions I attended are covered)13:54
czajkowskiaye13:54
nigelbIn one session I attended, the gobby got wiped clean durign the session13:54
nigelbI think czajkowski was there too13:54
Pendulumalthough I need to check some of the non-community sessions I think I picked up action items in13:54
akgranerPendulum, nigelb czajkowski as you all are looking through those if there is something I have action items on but not assigned to the bluebrints can you all assign me...:-)  please..:-D13:54
czajkowskioh i remember that13:55
nigelbakgraner: hehe, sure :)13:55
nigelbI think it wsa the development wrkflow review13:55
nigelbInstead of deleting the new ones, I wish they'd delete the lucid ones.  the document list is so cluttered13:56
Pendulumnigelb: I don't think any of the deleted ones were intentional13:56
Pendulumalthough I do think they could clean out the lucid ones nwo13:56
Pendulum*now13:56
czajkowskinigelb: aye they did from karmic I guess it was just a missed item13:57
czajkowski^^pendulum13:57
Pendulum*nods*13:57
jturekhey czajkowski, btw, i got a hold of a guy at goole for that ogg/google listener deal, they are looking into it13:57
nigelbah13:57
czajkowskijturek: oh nice :D can you ask them to add uupc podcast as well as shotofjaq to listen :D13:58
czajkowskisaves me adding the feed :D13:58
jtureki'll try :)13:58
czajkowskijturek: excellent13:59
czajkowskiif lo gets added well and good, but I prefer the other two :)13:59
jtureki don't personally have a droid to test with so i'll ping you guys to check when they say its fixed14:00
nigelbsigh, looks like foundations lost a gobby without any backup14:00
czajkowskijturek: that's fine!14:00
jturekeek nigelb harddrive crash or something?14:00
jturek(came in late to your document restore convo)14:01
czajkowskijturek: using gobby at UDS14:01
nigelbjturek: nope. lots of gobby docs from uds went missing14:01
jturekahh14:01
popey:(14:02
nigelbpopey: oh, no video of jono14:32
nigelbgrr14:32
popeyhmm?14:32
nigelbjono's opening plenary14:32
nigelbi.e. the one before sabdfl14:33
popeynot sure that's worth putting online14:35
popeyits mostly admin about the location14:35
nigelbI just wanna see the crowd reaction to the video, and jono's funny slideshow (especially)14:35
popeyok14:37
popeywell, I have nothing over and above what you already see online14:37
nigelbaw,ok14:38
popeyas I said earlier, I've asked, and as soon as I get it, I'll let people know14:39
nigelbawesome, thanks :)14:39
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highvoltagedholbach: I wonder if people who go to every uds ends up having much stronger immune systems due to all the bugs they get exposed to15:02
dholbachhighvoltage: no, at least not I15:03
czajkowski1st uds I was fine, dallas came home very sick and this one I'm just all fluey15:04
* nigelb shudders15:05
nigelbI have a pretty weak immune system too15:05
nigelbdholbach lets get some bio-hazard suits at next UDS :D15:06
popeyor less hugging :)15:06
highvoltagesomeone will probably do some medical study some day :)15:06
dholbachpopey: that wouldn't make sense15:06
popey:)15:06
macodholbach: ive heard veg*ns say they get sick less since switching. maybe give it another year of vegetarianism and you'll not get sick from uds anymore15:07
* maco does not get ubuflu15:07
dholbachmaco: I don't know15:07
nigelbI'd rather get ubuflu than swtiching to vegitarian15:08
czajkowskime too15:08
czajkowski1:)15:08
maconigelb: you live in a country with some of the best vegetarian food in the world!15:08
maconigelb: heck, your country's food turned dholbach vegetarian!15:08
Pendulumhuh, most vegans & vegetarians I know get sick at least as much as meat-eaters15:08
nigelbmaco: yes, which I hate with a passion15:08
nigelbI mean the vegetarian food15:08
Pendulum(a couple of them more often, but they've got underlying stuff going on)15:08
dholbachnigelb: WHAT?!15:09
macoPendulum: i remember my friend peterson saying he hasnt been sick in 10 years15:09
dholbachnigelb: well, I was in the north of india - maybe it's better there :)15:09
macomm yummy north indian food15:09
* czajkowski likes meat, just COOKED! 15:09
maconigelb: i could live on saags15:09
nigelbmaco: that explains it.  /me is south indian15:10
nigelbwe have some yummy non-veg food15:10
nigelbI totally cannot live without fish15:10
nigelbdholbach: yes, I like north indian food compared to vegitarian south indian15:10
dholbachI wish I had more holidays :-)15:11
nigelbdholbach: where exactly where you?15:11
dholbachalthough I know I shouldn't complain15:11
macoim confused by the bit where you can be vegetarian in germany. glaztor is even more confusing. if i couldnt eat cheese when i was in germany i couldnt have eaten15:12
dholbachnigelb: Delhi, Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Jaipur, Delhi, McLeodganj, Amritsar, Chandigarrh, Shimla, Delhi15:12
nigelbdholbach: WOW!15:12
dholbachnigelb: so basically where all the other tourists go too, I just missed how's it called again15:12
maco(ditto italy and france)15:12
macocalcutta?15:12
nigelbnah, its not on that route15:13
dholbachVaranasi15:13
dholbachwas a bit too far off15:13
nigelbmaco: its Kolkota15:13
nigelbaw, grr kolkata15:13
popeylol @ czajkowski15:13
maconigelb: i think different places transcribe it differently. kinda like Wein for the capital of Austria versus Vienna15:13
macoer Wien15:14
czajkowskipopey: :)15:14
nigelbmaco: calcutta changed to kolkata officially15:14
maconigelb: ohh when?15:14
czajkowskipopey: there are certain things I like :)15:14
popeyclearly15:14
nigelbquite some time back, when I was in school I think15:14
macoalrighty15:14
nigelbeven Bangalore is being changed to Bengaluru15:14
macoso you can figure out which visiting americans last read about india more than 15 years ago?15:15
nigelbhaha15:15
nigelbyeah, thats how we separate you out15:15
nigelb:D15:15
PendulumI'm not sure much of it has been changed in American textbooks or anything15:16
nigelbbtw, Kolkata changed in 200115:16
PendulumI suspect it's just how you separate the Americans out ;-)15:16
nigelbKolkata is one of the more easier names to pronounce15:16
nigelbCity names in kerala are sure bound to be a mouthful ;)15:17
macowhere youre from is tough too15:18
nigelbBangalore?15:18
macono malayala15:18
nigelbhehe, malalam is the language15:18
nigelboh grr15:19
nigelbmalayalam15:19
dholbachwrite something in malayalam15:19
* nigelb tries15:21
nigelbനൈജില്‍15:22
dholbachnice15:22
nigelbthat is supposed to be my name in malayalam.  well it was supposed to be15:22
* dholbach tears himself away to not look at it for hours15:22
qensenigelb: LTR or RTL?15:22
nigelbLTR15:23
qenseok15:23
nigelboh, wow15:23
nigelbdpl sent me a mail15:23
nigelbpoking me about gwibber rfh15:23
nigelbI should get around to it15:24
macothe TB are currently debating the 10.10.10 thing15:26
czajkowskiaye15:26
czajkowskitis rather amusing to watch15:26
macorfh?15:26
nigelbmaco: request for help15:27
macooh15:27
nigelbdholbach: btw, my name in hindi would be नैजिल ;)15:27
* nigelb is loving google transliterate15:28
macoO_O theres a *transliterate*??15:28
nigelbyep15:28
dholbachI love looking at foreign characters15:28
macowait you cant write your own name in malayalam on your own?15:28
dholbachmaco: try arabic→english and type something, it'll auto-transliterate15:28
nigelbhttp://www.google.com/transliterate/15:28
macobut but its your name and your language15:28
dholbachor persian15:28
nigelbmaco: well, I don't know the keymap15:29
nigelbI mean for the font15:29
dholbachoh, I meant translate.google.com15:29
dholbachwhatever15:29
macoits russian does my name a little wrong15:29
nigelbmaco: well, it took 5 tries to get the right pronounciation.15:30
macoadds the "ts" letter but shouldnt15:30
macoah yeah i guess you need to type phonetic15:30
nigelbIf I type naijil in english gives the correct indic pronounciation15:30
macoif i take the c out, its second suggestion is the correct cyrillic version of my name15:31
nigelbrussian?15:31
macojapanese is not an option though15:31
macoyes15:31
macoi wanted to see what itd do about my "zi" (syllable doesnt exist in japanese)15:31
nigelbI dunno how your name is pronounced or I would have tried malayalam and hindi15:31
maco<Freenode:#ubuntu-meeting:sabdfl> ok then. 10.10.10 it is.15:32
nigelbYaay!15:33
nigelbabuwhat the..15:36
macohaha15:36
nigelbabuoh, ctrl + z in byobu kills program.  sigh.15:36
macoctrl+z should be stop15:36
macoin a shell15:36
macoand then you can run "bg" to background it or "fg" to foreground it15:37
nigelbabuyeah, it stopped irssi for me15:37
macostop just = pause though15:37
nigelbabuoh, so nigelb is still here15:37
macoyes15:37
nigelbabuso how do I get it. /quit this and then fg?15:38
macoyeah15:38
nigelbawesome15:38
nigelbthat was fun15:38
macoheh15:38
nigelbnote to self: ctrl + z instinct needs to go15:38
macoand now time for you to go learn all about job control in shells?15:38
nigelbnope, now time to generate new gpg keys and get to work on gwibber15:39
macoheh alrighty\15:39
nigelboh, sigh, pbuilder15:39
macooh weee!15:40
nigelbmaco: new project this cycle.  teach writing apport hooks to bug control folks15:41
macothey're talking about setting out dates for UDS far in advance so we're not all scrambling 2 months out!15:41
nigelbalso sponsorship so people like me could get visa stuff going15:42
nigelbmaco: oh I wish it were in asia15:45
czajkowskiwekk dates have already been known a lot longer than 2 months, just look at the schedule still wont help folks looking for visa15:45
czajkowskithey not mentioning changing annoucing date for sponsorship15:46
maconigelb: thats what persia said15:46
* nigelb is just +1-ing persia15:46
macoczajkowski: dates and venues theyre talking about15:46
popeyhttp://twitter.com/popey/status/14231655178  pls to be retweeting thanky!15:47
macobut if you know where it is and can get a letter to start the visa process far in advance of knowing whether youre sponsored...15:47
czajkowskimaco: yes but i was commenting on what nigelb was saying re sponsorship15:47
czajkowskithat's a lot more admin work though...15:47
macoyou dont need to be sponsored to get a visa either though, do you?15:47
macoi know you (cz) and crimsun show up without being sponsored15:48
nigelbyou do, for some of us15:48
* nigelb retweets popey15:48
maconigelb: hang on there are two types of sponsor in here i think?15:48
nigelbmaco: ok, wait, whats the difference?15:48
macowell i mean we tend to think of sponsor as being the part where they fly people there and have hotel rooms and all15:49
macobut a visa sponsor is different15:49
czajkowskimaco: I dont need a visa15:49
nigelbI was gettign there15:49
macothats just them needing to provide a letter saying "such-and-such is coming for $event and wont be staying longer"15:49
macodont see why you couldnt get them to do the letter-for-visa stuff in advance of when monetary sponsorship stuff goes on if thats how long paperwork takes15:50
Pendulumnigelb: how expensive do visas tend to be?15:50
nigelbPendulum: To US, something like 130$15:51
macowow15:51
Pendulummaco: I could see it being prohibitively expensive for someone to apply for a visa that they then don't use because they don't get sponsorship15:51
macoPendulum: gotcha15:51
macoi didnt realise you had to pay for visas15:51
Pendulumyeah, I thought they were pretty expensive15:51
nigelbmaco: yes you do, unless you're going to a country with those agreements15:51
nigelblike we dont need visa for nepal15:52
nigelband you folks dont need a visa for a  *lot*  of places15:52
macoyeah ive only been to EU, ca, and aruba (which i think follows EU rules as a dutch territory)15:52
* nigelb has been to Muscat, well lived there, for 6 years15:52
dholbachhey jono15:53
macothis is seeming rather racist to me :-/ all the places i can think of where you can get to the US on a "just show up and promise to leave within 6mo" deal are places that are predominantly white15:53
jonohey!15:53
jonodpm, mind if we reschedule our call? I feel like crap this morning15:53
jonofull of cold15:54
dholbachjono: same here15:54
nigelblol, its not ubuflu, its more like canonicaflu :D15:54
* dholbach hugs jono15:55
jonodholbach, ugh, get well soon dude15:55
* jono hugs dholbach15:55
dholbachyou too15:55
czajkowskidholbach: hugging, that;s how it all started!15:56
czajkowskijono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg15:56
dpmjono, sure, no worries. Shall we say Thursday?15:57
nigelbczajkowski: source of all problems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzGIaZcGcM15:57
* dpm hugs jono15:57
jcastrohmm15:57
macojcastro: hi :)15:58
jcastrohey guys, any idea why my specs don't show up here? http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-community.html15:58
jonodpm, sounds good :)15:58
nigelbbecause jono hasn't approved ;)15:59
nigelb?15:59
nigelbjcastro: tried setting a series goal?16:03
nigelbthe ones that are there seem to have 'accepted for maverick' and those are not dont have it16:04
jcastrohmm, I'll try that16:05
jcastrohey dholbach16:11
jcastroI am confused16:11
jcastrohttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-document-daily-builds16:11
jcastrook so for this one16:11
jcastrothe actions in the whiteboard don't match what's in the gobby document16:11
dholbachjcastro: that's just the stuff I filled in before we had a UDS session16:11
jcastrowe're supposed to be going through each one and adding the todo items right?16:11
jcastroah ok16:11
dholbachjcastro: jono made me do it :)16:11
jcastroperfect16:11
jcastroso as I go through each one I reconcile all that right?16:11
dholbachscrap them unless there's something very clever in there16:11
jcastrook I will do this, I will add the ones from the notes16:12
jcastroat the bottom16:12
dholbachok super16:12
jcastrois there a URL for what specs are mine?16:13
* dholbach has his call with his SoC student in a bit - very excited16:13
jcastroI can't find "the list"16:13
jcastroI bookmarked a bunch but now for example we added a bunch at UDS16:13
dholbachhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/people/+me/+specs?role=registrant16:13
dholbachmaybe?16:13
jonoI am feeling like crap, full of cold, I am going to go and lay down for a few hours, back in a bit16:17
jcastroperfect16:17
jcastronow we can assign you more items!16:17
nigelbhaha16:17
* dholbach hugs jono16:17
dholbachtake care16:18
* jono slaps jcastro16:19
jono:)16:19
jcastroman16:19
jcastroI am so doomed this cycle16:20
jcastroI am only on my second spec and my WI are exponentionally growing16:20
jcastroMWAHAHAHAAH16:20
nigelbjcastro: ha, I realize that some WI on my list is actually a whole set of things16:20
nigelbso 5 items = 200 actual tasks16:21
jonojcastro, cry me a river :P16:22
jonoj/k16:22
jono:)16:22
jcastroheh16:22
jcastrohey16:22
jcastroyour lp name is [jonobacon] right?16:22
jonolol16:23
jonouh oh16:23
jonono its not16:23
jonoit is [dholbach]16:23
jono;-)16:23
jcastrohahah16:23
jonook I am off16:23
jonobiab16:23
* dholbach strangles jono passionately :)16:23
dholbachthanks man16:23
nigelbhhaha16:23
jono:)16:24
jturekwow, lots of hugging going on here...16:24
dholbachjcastro: an action can't be assigned to more than one person16:24
nigelbyah, they're trying to give each other ubuflu over irc16:24
dholbachjcastro: also you need a name in the beginning of every line16:24
jcastrodholbach: ok16:25
dholbachjcastro: I know it sucks :/16:26
nigelbdholbach: um, re:blackz, I -1'ed him16:31
dholbachnigelb: the reviewers team?16:32
nigelbnope, bug control16:32
dholbachI thought we had added him?16:32
dholbachoh ok16:32
dholbachas I said: I haven't had a look at a big variety of bugs16:32
dholbachtake it with a grain of salt16:32
nigelbhe asked me to review his application and I felt he really couldn't make it in16:32
dholbachok16:32
dholbachyour call - he asked me to reply and I did16:32
nigelbits actually brian's call ;)16:33
nigelbI did my -116:33
dholbachok16:33
jtureklol16:34
jcastropopey: ooh, can you add the audio link to the UDS header thing on the wiki? that would be grand16:37
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popeyok16:38
jcastroczajkowski: do you have the notes on community-m-conferences?16:41
popeyjcastro: done16:41
jcastroI can't seem to find them on the wiki16:41
czajkowskiI do16:41
jcastroer, in gobby16:41
jcastro<3 popey16:41
czajkowskiwell let me double check16:41
nigelbjcastro: I cant believe you called it 'pedro button' :D16:42
czajkowskijcastro: whats your email addy ?16:42
jcastroczajkowski: jorge@ubuntu.com16:43
czajkowskijcastro: shared folder on U116:43
jcastroczajkowski: NICE!16:45
* czajkowski loves U1 16:45
czajkowski:D16:45
nigelbyou finally got it working :)16:45
czajkowskiwell U1 qwas always working just tomboy was acting up16:45
czajkowskistill not working 100%16:46
czajkowskibut it'll do16:46
nigelb:)16:46
nigelbmy evolution contact sync is b0rked16:46
jcastroman16:47
jcastrofor sure next time16:47
jcastrowe add the work items to the spec16:47
jcastroNOT to gobby16:47
jcastroso we don't have to copy and paste after16:47
nigelbor lose it16:47
jcastroheh16:47
nigelba bunch of them got lost :(16:48
czajkowskijcastro: we did :p16:48
* czajkowski hugs jcastro 16:48
czajkowskijcastro: help yourself to any more files in there you need16:48
* popey coughs up an etherpad16:49
czajkowskiand then watch it crash16:50
czajkowskijcastro: eh I added me under the council names as I can poke the council. as I didnt think we could assign council tasks ?16:50
jcastroI didn't know if we could or not, I just put them up there for now16:55
nigelbSoo many mails, sigh16:56
czajkowskijcastro: well I was gonna create etherpad and then poke the lads and we could work on it but I'd follow up on it, if you can assign to council that's grand16:58
czajkowskinigelb: FILTERS!16:58
czajkowskinow have a box for blueprints :D16:58
popeyczajkowski: TRASH!16:58
czajkowskipopey: GARBAGE16:59
popeyczajkowski: MILK!16:59
czajkowskipopey: WASTE BIN16:59
nigelbczajkowski: I have 25 filters already, sigh16:59
czajkowskipopey: get with the game :D16:59
* JanC has > 200 filters... :-/17:00
nigelbJanC: you art awesome17:00
JanCwell, it's more like Evolution makes it very easy to create them, but is no help to remove those that aren't used anymore  ;)17:01
jcastroczajkowski: I more just wanted it in the whiteboard. I think the sane thing to do would be to poke the council in general and then they can each take on an item or whatever17:01
jcastronigelb: by the way, on any of these specs if you want to jump in and add items for yourself on what you want to work on that's totally ok!17:33
jcastrothanks for the spelling fix17:33
jcastro<-- off to lunch17:33
nigelbjcastro: hehe, I have enough WI as such.  I may take more tasks for bug squad though17:34
* dholbach calls it a day17:40
dholbachtake care my friends17:40
dpmI call it a day as well, by everyone!17:41
dholbachbye guys17:41
akgranercjohnston, adding the classroom calendar now :-)18:04
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jcastrohey qense18:29
jcastroany idea on how to get this spun up? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationAreaTransition/Applications18:29
qensejcastro: hello18:45
qensejcastro: Was away for dinner, let me read first.18:46
qensejcastro: Also: did you see my pings yesterday?18:46
jcastroyeah18:48
jcastroabout lightning talks?18:48
qensejcastro: yes, and about hotel booking deadlines and probably something else but I forgot what18:48
jcastrooh right18:48
jcastroyeah that won't be a problem18:48
jcastroall I need to know is where to submit for a lightning talk I guess18:48
qenseno, nothing at all18:49
qensejcastro: did you receive the mail I forwarded to you?18:49
jcastroaha!18:49
jcastrothere it is18:49
qensegood18:50
jcastroqense: so do you think I should have a session on adopt an upstream/daily builds, etc?18:50
jcastroor a lightning talk?18:50
jcastrough18:50
jcastroI think I will do lightning18:50
jcastroI don't want to submit a paper18:50
qensejcastro: The talks are all full already and they're looking for someone who's a bit more high-profile than you -- no offence -- for the keynote, so I think a lightning talk is the only remaining option. ;)18:50
jcastroheh ok18:50
qensejcastro: Also, have you had time to read the pre-conference mail?18:51
jcastroI think I'll get flamed for doing a distro/GNOME topic at guadec18:51
qenseTheir flaming will be unjustly!18:51
jcastroI don't know if I will be there on the 26th18:51
qensealright18:52
jcastrolet me think about that one for a bit18:52
jcastroI will mull the lightning talk one for today18:52
akgranerjcastro, who can I email about debconf... if you told me I forgot to write it down :-(18:52
jcastroemail about what?18:52
akgranergoing and press passes etc18:53
jcastronot sure18:53
jcastroit would be on debconf.org right?18:53
akgranerI was hoping you had *better* info :-D18:53
jcastroit's like 2 months away, so no, heh18:54
qenseThey don't do planning a conference two months in advance ;)18:54
qense?18:54
jcastrono, I meant to say I am so not looking at that right now18:54
qenseah! :D18:55
qensejcastro: About the tray transition wiki page:18:55
qenseI don't think blogging is enough, we need something where the users will be reminded of it often and report these issues.18:55
jcastroyeah18:55
jcastroso I guess mpt just started this page18:56
qenseCould we misuse Planet Ubuntu and put links to stuff we want people to read with <blink> and <marquee> in the sidebar?18:56
jcastroI wish18:56
jturekqense: might have to dig out my netscape navigator gold floppies if you start using <blink>18:57
akgranerjcastro, is it something I can interview someone about and get it on the Fridge?18:57
jcastroakgraner: not quite yet, maybe after we get our stuff together18:57
qenseMessage to jono: there is also a <http://www.ubuntu.com/developers> link on the Planet Ubuntu (see the header navigation). This points to the 'Developer' subcategory of u.c/community, which you're going to remove in the near future.18:58
jcastroqense: what do you think about a tag like we did app indicators?18:58
qensejturek: We'll write patches for Chromium and Firefox18:58
jcastroI think "big table on the wiki" is doomed to fail18:58
qensejcastro: tags, sure, add another task for me and I'll figure out who to contact to make the tag an official one.18:58
akgranerjcastro, ok let me know.. :-)18:58
jcastroqense: ok so here's where I get confused18:59
qensejcastro: Yeah, the wiki page would be duplicate effort, copying information from the bug reports to the wiki.18:59
jcastroqense: is there a spec for this?18:59
qensejcastro: For this? Not that I'm aware of, but I think it's part of AppInd II, so I'd dump it there.18:59
jcastrook18:59
qensejcastro: If you're adding a task for me, also make me report these bugs.18:59
jcastrook18:59
qensethese bugs = what's already on the wiki19:00
qensejcastro: Maybe we should bundle the awareness efforts for both AppInd and NotifAreaMustDie into one slick media campaign, otherwise we'd have two very similar things.19:01
jcastroI don't know how I got roped into the notification area19:02
jcastroI'm appind and global menu for this cycle19:02
jcastrobut whatevs19:02
jcastrolet me ask mpt19:02
qensealright19:02
jcastrobah19:03
jcastrogone for the day19:03
qenseaw19:03
qenseIs everyone getting ill right now? What disease has spread at the UDS?19:08
qensejcastro: Also: David Neary will be giving trainings on GNOME development the two days before GUADEC. He'll cover working with GNOME libraries and tools as well as getting things done in/with/by the GNOME community. Maybe something for some Canonical employees?19:14
jcastroI think rick will be the only one around before guadec19:15
qensejcastro: it is expensive training, with a limited amount of students19:15
qenseor maybe it's cheap, I'm not that familiar with the pricing of this kind of stuff19:16
qenseDoes Rick still need training?19:16
qense:_19:16
qense:)19:16
jcastronah19:17
jturekRTRV:PM:T3T1:1103-3:::ctag;19:47
jturekhah, sorry, wrong window... don't need to be typing TL1 commands into a IRC channel ;)19:48
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntini :)19:58
JanCwtf is "grape soda" ?20:13
JanCand what's "Crown Royal"20:14
JanCand what's "Tang"20:14
qenseAn ubuntini for me please. Stirred, not shaken.20:16
JanCqense: I thought you didn't drink alcohol?  ;)20:16
qenseI'll boil it before drinking.20:17
JanCactually, this gave me some idea20:17
JanChave to try it one of these days...20:18
akgranercjohnston, thank you!21:18
jcastrohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxg2gjK4lHE22:03
jcastrowow!22:03
akgraneraren't you glad elmo bought that camera :-)22:04
cjohnston:-)22:13
AlanBellthat was a good one22:13
doctormoNice work, ben was stuggeling to get people to smile all week ;-)23:22
akgranerdoctormo, you were even smiling :-)23:23
AlanBellit was a bit disconcerting sitting in the bar and an HD camcorder appears 20cm in front of my face23:24
doctormoakgraner: Ah well, I'm actually quite jovial once you get to knwo me :-P23:24
akgranerhehe  - jovial I was going to say funny as h%^& :-P23:25
akgraneras words that appear, or sound longer than mayonnaise just don't work for me :-D23:26
JanCyou mean words like "hottentottententententoonstelling" ?23:29
akgranerJanC, hehe - uh yes!23:33
JanCit's dutch for "exposition of hottentot tents" and is sometimes used as a "tongue breaker" (for obvious reasons ;) )23:35
JanCI could also make a 100-character word in Dutch if you wanted  ;)23:36
akgranerJanC, hehe23:41
JanCbasically, combined words are written as 1 long word in German & Dutch, while they are written as separate words in English23:42

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