[00:20] * cjohnston is still really sore [00:22] cjohnston: I don't want to know [00:22] I'm sure you are worse... but between the planes and the bed [00:23] my back is hurting [00:23] :( [00:23] plenty of work for me to do coming up though [00:24] another call [00:24] g'luck [00:52] luck is not needed [00:52] heh [00:58] well that was meant as "hope it's not a long or overly taxing call" [00:58] lol [00:58] bs [00:58] as most are [01:03] yep [03:25] hey Pendulum [03:31] doctormo: heya! [03:32] doctormo: had a nice UDS? [07:05] Aloha [07:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg [07:05] video from Friday night [07:13] good morning [07:17] tis rather quiet this morning in here [07:20] good morning everyone [07:20] hola dpm [07:20] hey dholbach, moin [07:37] hola ara! [07:38] morning dholbach :) [08:33] popey, pleia2: going to be at the CC meeting later on? [09:20] dholbach: yup [09:24] For those who like big bang theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1-Q_8EbB8A Ubuntu :) [10:22] popey: awesome [10:23] * popey checks the time of the meeting to be sure [10:23] so 12:00 BST [11:27] SO! WHO OF YOU WAS IT! [11:27] I think I'm getting the Ubuflu... just after UDS this time [11:28] aww :( [11:28] * Pendulum hugs dholbach [11:29] I'll make sure I'll survive :) [11:29] * dholbach hugs Pendulum back [11:30] dholbach: it was mark. He wasnt so well at UDS... [11:31] sladen is the usual suspect - he always was it :) [11:31] ask jcastro [11:32] * czajkowski is dying sick since saturday [11:32] got it from the guy at our dinner on friday night [11:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg friday night all stars [11:33] hah, sladen was fine [11:33] * popey has no ubuflu \o/ [11:38] me either! [11:39] that's what I thought yesterday too! ;-) [13:13] Good Morning! :-) [13:18] hiya akgraner [13:19] Pendulum, :-) [13:22] hola [13:23] czajkowski: thank you thank you thank you! (for the video) [13:24] heh [13:26] JFo rocks as usual ;) [13:27] nigelb: you have to come to the next UDS so you can see JFo rock in person! [13:27] Pendulum: I definitely have to! [13:27] popey: any plenary videos available yet? [13:27] * nigelb really would like to see momubuntu with slides [13:27] yeah, loads of them [13:27] oh, that one isnt [13:28] mornin [13:28] gah I'm getting tons of mail and none of it is the mail I want!! [13:28] haha, what is the mail you want? [13:28] trhe mail i sent her [13:29] lol [13:29] s/trhe/the [13:29] cjohnston: your mail goes to a special place [13:29] trash or spam [13:29] yeah, spam box :D [13:30] I wish US visa stuff wasn't so complicated, sigh [13:30] :-/ [13:33] :( [13:34] I'll probably end up saying for next UDS 'I'm not there because I didn't get a visa' grrr [13:36] Anyone saw what elky did for the UW competition? [13:36] * nigelb is liking the audio [13:39] yeah the video is awesome... [13:39] Tweeted, dented and facebooked it earlier... [13:40] I need to blog it [13:40] Sigh, I'm on the planet so much after uds started [13:42] anyone missing gobby and remember me being in the session, poke me if the gobby is lost, I have copies of most sessions I've attended (mostly community) [13:43] the community web page one [13:43] dont remember if you were ther [13:44] I wasn't, sorry :( [13:46] cjohnston: is the open week and developer week gobby still around? [13:46] edunno [13:46] akgraner: ^ ? [13:46] dunno [13:46] not logged in [13:47] i'm about to get on gobby, do y'all want me to check? [13:47] nigelb, I'll take a look - not logged into to gobby right this sec... [13:47] Pendulum, can you please? [13:48] I restored raound 3 gobby's so far [13:48] so anything more I can help out :) [13:48] * akgraner is allergic to gobby... :-/ [13:48] * nigelb likes it so far [13:48] +1 [13:48] except I got only a bright pink [13:48] what was it called? [13:48] * czajkowski loves gobby [13:49] um, some tution something? [13:49] i'm not seeing it [13:49] can you throw it up there? [13:49] * nigelb goes to login [13:50] Done. [13:50] nigelb, I know how to use - but gobby and I are not friends at them moment.. sorta like wiki's and I a year ago [13:51] akgraner: only trouble is you get practice only once in 6 months, so it might take several years before you become friends ;) [13:51] Pendulum: check community-m-tuition-sessions now? [13:52] nigelb: you're a star :)\ [13:52] nigelb, I'll stick to just being and acquaintance of gobby...:-) [13:52] s/and/an [13:52] akgraner: haha ;) [13:52] Pendulum: nah, just following czajkowski's advice. Save every minute [13:52] akgraner: you don't have any action items listed on this. :P [13:52] Pendulum, I don't? whew! [13:53] was I supposed to... [13:53] aye save locally :D [13:53] Pendulum: ooh, thats a rare community bluprint. No akgraner actions! [13:53] ALWAYS [13:53] akgraner: don't think so, but just thought you'd be happy to know :) [13:53] * akgraner does the happy dance :-) [13:53] czajkowski: Just restored 4 documents :) [13:54] :) [13:54] Just because I know I should, doesn't mean I remember to do so :) [13:54] (luckily for me between nigelb and czajkowski I suspect most sessions I attended are covered) [13:54] aye [13:54] In one session I attended, the gobby got wiped clean durign the session [13:54] I think czajkowski was there too [13:54] although I need to check some of the non-community sessions I think I picked up action items in [13:54] Pendulum, nigelb czajkowski as you all are looking through those if there is something I have action items on but not assigned to the bluebrints can you all assign me...:-) please..:-D [13:55] oh i remember that [13:55] akgraner: hehe, sure :) [13:55] I think it wsa the development wrkflow review [13:56] Instead of deleting the new ones, I wish they'd delete the lucid ones. the document list is so cluttered [13:56] nigelb: I don't think any of the deleted ones were intentional [13:56] although I do think they could clean out the lucid ones nwo [13:56] *now [13:57] nigelb: aye they did from karmic I guess it was just a missed item [13:57] ^^pendulum [13:57] *nods* [13:57] hey czajkowski, btw, i got a hold of a guy at goole for that ogg/google listener deal, they are looking into it [13:57] ah [13:58] jturek: oh nice :D can you ask them to add uupc podcast as well as shotofjaq to listen :D [13:58] saves me adding the feed :D [13:58] i'll try :) [13:59] jturek: excellent [13:59] if lo gets added well and good, but I prefer the other two :) [14:00] i don't personally have a droid to test with so i'll ping you guys to check when they say its fixed [14:00] sigh, looks like foundations lost a gobby without any backup [14:00] jturek: that's fine! [14:00] eek nigelb harddrive crash or something? [14:01] (came in late to your document restore convo) [14:01] jturek: using gobby at UDS [14:01] jturek: nope. lots of gobby docs from uds went missing [14:01] ahh [14:02] :( [14:32] popey: oh, no video of jono [14:32] grr [14:32] hmm? [14:32] jono's opening plenary [14:33] i.e. the one before sabdfl [14:35] not sure that's worth putting online [14:35] its mostly admin about the location [14:35] I just wanna see the crowd reaction to the video, and jono's funny slideshow (especially) [14:37] ok [14:37] well, I have nothing over and above what you already see online [14:38] aw,ok [14:39] as I said earlier, I've asked, and as soon as I get it, I'll let people know [14:39] awesome, thanks :) === N is now known as jturek [15:02] dholbach: I wonder if people who go to every uds ends up having much stronger immune systems due to all the bugs they get exposed to [15:03] highvoltage: no, at least not I [15:04] 1st uds I was fine, dallas came home very sick and this one I'm just all fluey [15:05] * nigelb shudders [15:05] I have a pretty weak immune system too [15:06] dholbach lets get some bio-hazard suits at next UDS :D [15:06] or less hugging :) [15:06] someone will probably do some medical study some day :) [15:06] popey: that wouldn't make sense [15:06] :) [15:07] dholbach: ive heard veg*ns say they get sick less since switching. maybe give it another year of vegetarianism and you'll not get sick from uds anymore [15:07] * maco does not get ubuflu [15:07] maco: I don't know [15:08] I'd rather get ubuflu than swtiching to vegitarian [15:08] me too [15:08] 1:) [15:08] nigelb: you live in a country with some of the best vegetarian food in the world! [15:08] nigelb: heck, your country's food turned dholbach vegetarian! [15:08] huh, most vegans & vegetarians I know get sick at least as much as meat-eaters [15:08] maco: yes, which I hate with a passion [15:08] I mean the vegetarian food [15:08] (a couple of them more often, but they've got underlying stuff going on) [15:09] nigelb: WHAT?! [15:09] Pendulum: i remember my friend peterson saying he hasnt been sick in 10 years [15:09] nigelb: well, I was in the north of india - maybe it's better there :) [15:09] mm yummy north indian food [15:09] * czajkowski likes meat, just COOKED! [15:09] nigelb: i could live on saags [15:10] maco: that explains it. /me is south indian [15:10] we have some yummy non-veg food [15:10] I totally cannot live without fish [15:10] dholbach: yes, I like north indian food compared to vegitarian south indian [15:11] I wish I had more holidays :-) [15:11] dholbach: where exactly where you? [15:11] although I know I shouldn't complain [15:12] im confused by the bit where you can be vegetarian in germany. glaztor is even more confusing. if i couldnt eat cheese when i was in germany i couldnt have eaten [15:12] nigelb: Delhi, Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Jaipur, Delhi, McLeodganj, Amritsar, Chandigarrh, Shimla, Delhi [15:12] dholbach: WOW! [15:12] nigelb: so basically where all the other tourists go too, I just missed how's it called again [15:12] (ditto italy and france) [15:12] calcutta? [15:13] nah, its not on that route [15:13] Varanasi [15:13] was a bit too far off [15:13] maco: its Kolkota [15:13] aw, grr kolkata [15:13] lol @ czajkowski [15:13] nigelb: i think different places transcribe it differently. kinda like Wein for the capital of Austria versus Vienna [15:14] er Wien [15:14] popey: :) [15:14] maco: calcutta changed to kolkata officially [15:14] nigelb: ohh when? [15:14] popey: there are certain things I like :) [15:14] clearly [15:14] quite some time back, when I was in school I think [15:14] alrighty [15:14] even Bangalore is being changed to Bengaluru [15:15] so you can figure out which visiting americans last read about india more than 15 years ago? [15:15] haha [15:15] yeah, thats how we separate you out [15:15] :D [15:16] I'm not sure much of it has been changed in American textbooks or anything [15:16] btw, Kolkata changed in 2001 [15:16] I suspect it's just how you separate the Americans out ;-) [15:16] Kolkata is one of the more easier names to pronounce [15:17] City names in kerala are sure bound to be a mouthful ;) [15:18] where youre from is tough too [15:18] Bangalore? [15:18] no malayala [15:18] hehe, malalam is the language [15:19] oh grr [15:19] malayalam [15:19] write something in malayalam [15:21] * nigelb tries [15:22] നൈജില്‍ [15:22] nice [15:22] that is supposed to be my name in malayalam. well it was supposed to be [15:22] * dholbach tears himself away to not look at it for hours [15:22] nigelb: LTR or RTL? [15:23] LTR [15:23] ok [15:23] oh, wow [15:23] dpl sent me a mail [15:23] poking me about gwibber rfh [15:24] I should get around to it [15:26] the TB are currently debating the 10.10.10 thing [15:26] aye [15:26] tis rather amusing to watch [15:26] rfh? [15:27] maco: request for help [15:27] oh [15:27] dholbach: btw, my name in hindi would be नैजिल ;) [15:28] * nigelb is loving google transliterate [15:28] O_O theres a *transliterate*?? [15:28] yep [15:28] I love looking at foreign characters [15:28] wait you cant write your own name in malayalam on your own? [15:28] maco: try arabic→english and type something, it'll auto-transliterate [15:28] http://www.google.com/transliterate/ [15:28] but but its your name and your language [15:28] or persian [15:29] maco: well, I don't know the keymap [15:29] I mean for the font [15:29] oh, I meant translate.google.com [15:29] whatever [15:29] its russian does my name a little wrong [15:30] maco: well, it took 5 tries to get the right pronounciation. [15:30] adds the "ts" letter but shouldnt [15:30] ah yeah i guess you need to type phonetic [15:30] If I type naijil in english gives the correct indic pronounciation [15:31] if i take the c out, its second suggestion is the correct cyrillic version of my name [15:31] russian? [15:31] japanese is not an option though [15:31] yes [15:31] i wanted to see what itd do about my "zi" (syllable doesnt exist in japanese) [15:31] I dunno how your name is pronounced or I would have tried malayalam and hindi [15:32]

ok then. 10.10.10 it is. [15:33] Yaay! [15:36] what the.. [15:36] haha [15:36] oh, ctrl + z in byobu kills program. sigh. [15:36] ctrl+z should be stop [15:36] in a shell [15:37] and then you can run "bg" to background it or "fg" to foreground it [15:37] yeah, it stopped irssi for me [15:37] stop just = pause though [15:37] oh, so nigelb is still here [15:37] yes [15:38] so how do I get it. /quit this and then fg? [15:38] yeah [15:38] awesome [15:38] that was fun [15:38] heh [15:38] note to self: ctrl + z instinct needs to go [15:38] and now time for you to go learn all about job control in shells? [15:39] nope, now time to generate new gpg keys and get to work on gwibber [15:39] heh alrighty\ [15:39] oh, sigh, pbuilder [15:40] oh weee! [15:41] maco: new project this cycle. teach writing apport hooks to bug control folks [15:41] they're talking about setting out dates for UDS far in advance so we're not all scrambling 2 months out! [15:42] also sponsorship so people like me could get visa stuff going [15:45] maco: oh I wish it were in asia [15:45] wekk dates have already been known a lot longer than 2 months, just look at the schedule still wont help folks looking for visa [15:46] they not mentioning changing annoucing date for sponsorship [15:46] nigelb: thats what persia said [15:46] * nigelb is just +1-ing persia [15:46] czajkowski: dates and venues theyre talking about [15:47] http://twitter.com/popey/status/14231655178 pls to be retweeting thanky! [15:47] but if you know where it is and can get a letter to start the visa process far in advance of knowing whether youre sponsored... [15:47] maco: yes but i was commenting on what nigelb was saying re sponsorship [15:47] that's a lot more admin work though... [15:47] you dont need to be sponsored to get a visa either though, do you? [15:48] i know you (cz) and crimsun show up without being sponsored [15:48] you do, for some of us [15:48] * nigelb retweets popey [15:48] nigelb: hang on there are two types of sponsor in here i think? [15:48] maco: ok, wait, whats the difference? [15:49] well i mean we tend to think of sponsor as being the part where they fly people there and have hotel rooms and all [15:49] but a visa sponsor is different [15:49] maco: I dont need a visa [15:49] I was gettign there [15:49] thats just them needing to provide a letter saying "such-and-such is coming for $event and wont be staying longer" [15:50] dont see why you couldnt get them to do the letter-for-visa stuff in advance of when monetary sponsorship stuff goes on if thats how long paperwork takes [15:50] nigelb: how expensive do visas tend to be? [15:51] Pendulum: To US, something like 130$ [15:51] wow [15:51] maco: I could see it being prohibitively expensive for someone to apply for a visa that they then don't use because they don't get sponsorship [15:51] Pendulum: gotcha [15:51] i didnt realise you had to pay for visas [15:51] yeah, I thought they were pretty expensive [15:51] maco: yes you do, unless you're going to a country with those agreements [15:52] like we dont need visa for nepal [15:52] and you folks dont need a visa for a *lot* of places [15:52] yeah ive only been to EU, ca, and aruba (which i think follows EU rules as a dutch territory) [15:52] * nigelb has been to Muscat, well lived there, for 6 years [15:53] hey jono [15:53] this is seeming rather racist to me :-/ all the places i can think of where you can get to the US on a "just show up and promise to leave within 6mo" deal are places that are predominantly white [15:53] hey! [15:53] dpm, mind if we reschedule our call? I feel like crap this morning [15:54] full of cold [15:54] jono: same here [15:54] lol, its not ubuflu, its more like canonicaflu :D [15:55] * dholbach hugs jono [15:55] dholbach, ugh, get well soon dude [15:55] * jono hugs dholbach [15:55] you too [15:56] dholbach: hugging, that;s how it all started! [15:56] jono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3PytyJwpg [15:57] jono, sure, no worries. Shall we say Thursday? [15:57] czajkowski: source of all problems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzGIaZcGcM [15:57] * dpm hugs jono [15:57] hmm [15:58] jcastro: hi :) [15:58] hey guys, any idea why my specs don't show up here? http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-community.html [15:58] dpm, sounds good :) [15:59] because jono hasn't approved ;) [15:59] ? [16:03] jcastro: tried setting a series goal? [16:04] the ones that are there seem to have 'accepted for maverick' and those are not dont have it [16:05] hmm, I'll try that [16:11] hey dholbach [16:11] I am confused [16:11] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-document-daily-builds [16:11] ok so for this one [16:11] the actions in the whiteboard don't match what's in the gobby document [16:11] jcastro: that's just the stuff I filled in before we had a UDS session [16:11] we're supposed to be going through each one and adding the todo items right? [16:11] ah ok [16:11] jcastro: jono made me do it :) [16:11] perfect [16:11] so as I go through each one I reconcile all that right? [16:11] scrap them unless there's something very clever in there [16:12] ok I will do this, I will add the ones from the notes [16:12] at the bottom [16:12] ok super [16:13] is there a URL for what specs are mine? [16:13] * dholbach has his call with his SoC student in a bit - very excited [16:13] I can't find "the list" [16:13] I bookmarked a bunch but now for example we added a bunch at UDS [16:13] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/people/+me/+specs?role=registrant [16:13] maybe? [16:17] I am feeling like crap, full of cold, I am going to go and lay down for a few hours, back in a bit [16:17] perfect [16:17] now we can assign you more items! [16:17] haha [16:17] * dholbach hugs jono [16:18] take care [16:19] * jono slaps jcastro [16:19] :) [16:19] man [16:20] I am so doomed this cycle [16:20] I am only on my second spec and my WI are exponentionally growing [16:20] MWAHAHAHAAH [16:20] jcastro: ha, I realize that some WI on my list is actually a whole set of things [16:21] so 5 items = 200 actual tasks [16:22] jcastro, cry me a river :P [16:22] j/k [16:22] :) [16:22] heh [16:22] hey [16:22] your lp name is [jonobacon] right? [16:23] lol [16:23] uh oh [16:23] no its not [16:23] it is [dholbach] [16:23] ;-) [16:23] hahah [16:23] ok I am off [16:23] biab [16:23] * dholbach strangles jono passionately :) [16:23] thanks man [16:23] hhaha [16:24] :) [16:24] wow, lots of hugging going on here... [16:24] jcastro: an action can't be assigned to more than one person [16:24] yah, they're trying to give each other ubuflu over irc [16:24]