[06:00] <nealmcb> Is #ubuntu-security supposed to forward to #ubuntu-hardened?  Didn't do it for me....
[06:02] <tsimpson> nealmcb: were you already in #ubuntu-hardened?
[06:03] <nealmcb> tsimpson: nope
[06:03] <tsimpson> it is set to forward there
[06:03] <nealmcb> I ended up in #ubuntu-security all by myself
[06:04] <tsimpson> nealmcb: are you in there now?
[06:04] <nealmcb> I am in -hardened now
[06:04] <tsimpson> I mean -security
[06:04] <nealmcb> and then joining -security put me in an odd empty window
[06:37] <nealmcb> tsimpson: aha - forwarding from -security to -hardened does work - my mistake - used wrong irc server....  And I just noticed the error message from when I tried to join -security after joining -hardened - which says it is invite only - that seems odd, but no biggie....
[06:38] <tsimpson> well if you're already in the forwarded channel, it can't forward you
[06:38] <tsimpson> so it tells you it's invite only, which is half of how the forwarding works
[08:51] <tsimpson> !test
[08:51] <tsimpson> $test
[08:51] <tsimpson> %test
[08:51] <tsimpson> ^test
[08:51] <tsimpson> &test
[08:52] <tsimpson> ~test
[08:52] <jpds> ...
[08:52] <tsimpson> trying to see what is used and what's not
[08:55] <tsimpson> !ping
[08:56] <tsimpson> cori_: please disable that...
[10:07]  * cori__AWAY is away: off
[10:07] <persia> !away > cori__AWAY
[11:13] <arand> Hmm, the !doesntwork could be a bit less snarky, and a bit more helpful, I think (although I don't hav a good suggestion..)
[11:14]  * erUSUL liked when all factoids where as snarky as they could be ;P
[11:15] <erUSUL> arand: anyway; just word it as you like and propose the change
[11:16] <erUSUL> arand: /msg ubottu doesntwork is <reply>My no hurt feelings wording here ;P
[11:18] <arand> Yea, I know... But I don't know a good replace though, and just wanted to vent, I guess :/
[11:23] <arand> I'll ponder it though. and submit when I've got something.
[11:23] <erUSUL> ok.
[11:24] <erUSUL> arand: also; the ones that edit the factoids are the ubuntu ops so you are better asking this things in #ubuntu-ops ...
[11:26] <persia> Not necessarily.
[11:27] <arand> Ah, yea, but it's normally more helpers around here so I though it would be likelier to get some ideas, and not having to bother ops for it.
[11:27] <persia> It often makes sense to discuss and consider in various places, and then just submit something by telling the bot "Foo is Bar", which will be moderated.
[11:31] <erUSUL> arand: in the spanish channel our equivalen is « does not work or it errors out are not good descriptions of a problem. be more descriptive and show us complete error messages through a !pastebin »
[11:32] <erUSUL> arand: also you can add a reference to !details
[11:32] <erUSUL> !details
[11:32] <erUSUL> arand: you can use !details instead of !doesntwork in almost all the situations
[11:33] <arand> Yea, probably, pebkac :)
[11:40] <bazhang> hah
[12:57] <bazhang> X4me1eoH, hi
[12:57] <X4me1eoH> hi
[12:58] <bazhang> what were you banned for
[12:58] <X4me1eoH> i'm baned on ubuntu-ru chanell =(
[12:58] <bazhang> X4me1eoH, the ban was yesterday, correct?
[12:59] <X4me1eoH> нуы
[12:59] <X4me1eoH> yes
[12:59] <bazhang> X4me1eoH, you will need to discuss with [green] the op who banned you
[13:00] <X4me1eoH> hm, hi say now, hi not op =|
[13:01] <bazhang> X4me1eoH, well he is listed as the op who banned you; you can /msg [Green] hi    and discuss removing it.
[13:04] <X4me1eoH> oh I mixed up the nicks
[13:05] <bazhang> ok
[13:05] <X4me1eoH> i discuss green =)
[13:09] <Pici> ...
[13:10] <Pici> jussi, tsimpson: Could you do something about that ^.  Maybe lobotomize ubot5 on #ubuntu-ops.
[13:10] <Pici> Or part it.
[13:11] <Pici> ty :)
[13:11] <jussi> :)
[18:43] <micahg> jpds: ubottu is AWOL from #ubuntu-mozillateam
[18:44] <jpds> micahg: Not my problem.
[18:44] <micahg> jpds: ah, sorry, who
[18:44] <micahg> s taking care of that now
[18:44] <jpds> micahg: Only joking, tsimpson should be able to help you.
[18:44] <micahg> tsimpson: : ubottu is AWOL from #ubuntu-mozillateam
[18:45] <tsimpson> jpds: that's supposed to be ubot4
[18:45] <jpds> Oh, yeah; that.
[18:47] <Pici> heh.
[19:05] <micahg> is ubot4 broke?
[19:05] <jpds> Yes.
[19:05] <micahg> ah
[19:05] <jpds> Well, it had no money to begin with.
[19:06]  * micahg thinks channel should be renamed to #ubuntu-irc-humor :-/
[19:06] <micahg> :)
[19:06] <jpds> WARNING 2010-05-18T14:06:16 supybot Error connecting to irc.freenode.net:7070: An error occurred while connecting: -9: Unknown error 18446744073709551607.
[19:06] <jpds> pleia2: Do you know anything that could be causing this?
[19:08] <pleia2> jpds: nope, I haven't changed anything
[19:08] <jpds> And all I've changed is it's channel lists.
[19:09] <pleia2> I just connected to freenode from that box without a problem
[19:09] <pleia2> with irssi
[19:09] <Pici> jpds: you have sasl setup on that bot?
[19:09] <jpds> pleia2: nc irc.freenode.net 7070 just hangs while 6667 connects.
[19:10] <jpds> Pici: Don't think supybot supports that.
[19:10] <Pici> jpds: Well, iirc 7070 is only for ssl/sasl connections.
[19:10] <pleia2> yeah, can't use 7070 w/o ssl
[19:11] <pleia2> 8001 should be fine
[19:14] <jpds> pleia2: Yes.
[19:14] <jpds> Well, it was using SSL fine before...
[19:16] <jpds> I switched the channels, restarted the bot; and it couldn't connect.
[19:17] <pleia2> I can connect fine with SSL in irssi on 7070
[19:18] <pleia2> so I'm not sure :\
[19:19] <jpds> WARNING 2010-05-18T14:19:26 supybot Error connecting to irc.freenode.net:8001: An error occurred while connecting: -9: Unknown error 18446744073709551607.
[19:19] <jpds> Weird.
[19:23] <Pici> jpds: What if you start it with --debug ?
[19:23] <tsimpson> I tried using ssl with the new bots, supybot does not like it
[19:25] <jpds> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435677/
[19:27] <tsimpson> jpds: that's the error I got, I think supybot uses an outdated twisted API
[19:27] <jpds> tsimpson: That's with SSL off...
[19:27] <tsimpson> but still using twisted
[19:27] <tsimpson> I had to change back to Socket
[19:28] <jpds> Yeah, my experience with that is basically that they picked the name well.
[19:28] <tsimpson> the "unknown error" is an exception thrown due to a missing method somewhere
[19:30] <jpds> Yay.
[19:32] <Pici> jpds: Looking around leads me to believe this might be a related to a problem where twisted encounters AAAA records.
[19:32] <jpds> Pici: Nice.
[19:40] <vish> micahg: looks like you caught the o-p-s in a good mood , all were toying with you  ;p
[19:44] <jpds> We're always having fun.
[21:25] <micahg> thanks for ubot4 :)