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eagles0513875morning all :)07:39
ddecatormorning07:40
eagles0513875ddecator: you using firefox by any chance07:49
ddecatoreagles0513875: yes i am07:49
eagles0513875are you having issues with firefox and it not knowing how to handle downloaded files07:50
ddecatorah, the "associated helper does not exist" or w/e thing?07:50
eagles0513875ya and we have to manually choose the program07:52
ddecatoryah, that's a known bug, let me try to find it a sec07:52
eagles0513875ddecator: no need im just curious as to whats being done to fix it07:53
ddecatorbug 23995207:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239952 in ubuntuforums.org "firefox - the associated helper application does not exist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23995207:53
ddecatorwaiting for upstream i believe07:54
* eagles0513875 wonders what they are waiting for07:58
ddecatori think they're just busy focusing on Firefox 408:00
eagles0513875couldnt we fix it downstream then submit a patch for it upstream08:00
ddecatorpotentially, but given that micah is already really busy, and the issue is easy enough to workaround, i don't think it's high on anybodys priority list atm08:02
eagles0513875ddecator: if someone could mentor me im more then willing to give it a shot08:04
ddecatori would hope that gets addressed by FF4 though08:04
ddecatoreagles0513875: heh, i'm not really the one to talk to about that. i'm just starting packaging of other things, i'm not familiar enough with patching firefox. you can try asking on here during the busy hours to see what others say08:05
eagles0513875ya08:05
eagles0513875also i need to get into packaging as well08:05
ddecatori appreciate the enthusiasm though :)08:05
eagles0513875:)08:06
eagles0513875no problem08:06
eagles0513875i have always had a passion for computers08:06
ddecatori think most of us have :)08:06
eagles0513875first day of summer and i dunno what i wanna work on08:07
eagles0513875lol08:07
ddecatorwell there's plenty, haha. is packaging something you're interested in learning?08:07
eagles0513875hava a java project need to learn c++ as well as objective C and create a database08:07
eagles0513875ddecator: anythign linux i am more then willing to learn08:07
ddecatorthat's what we like to hear :)08:08
eagles0513875ddecator: ill be honest with you08:08
eagles0513875if i wasnt a gamer i could live without windows08:08
eagles0513875but i cant for somethings08:08
ddecatorcross your fingers for steam then, haha08:08
ddecatorwell i take it you're more interested in development work than documents?08:09
eagles0513875ya08:09
eagles0513875as of this last yr my programming lecturer has really made me fall in love with programming08:10
eagles0513875ddecator: im in kubuntu-offtopic if you wanna hop in there so we dont derail the topic of this channel08:10
ddecatortrue, want to just do a pm?08:11
eagles0513875we could as well08:12
eagles0513875ddecator: back08:25
BUGabundo_remoteI'm an ant,you're a bee08:58
eagles0513875morning ot you 208:58
ddecatorBUGabundo_remote: the two of us, we are three08:59
BUGabundo_remotelol09:09
asacfta: yeah ;) ... let them fix the script for us :-P09:25
eagles0513875hey asac how come we dont fix the issue where when you download something firefox doesnt know how to handle it and then send the patch for it upstream09:26
asaceagles0513875: go ahead. you have my blessing to do that09:27
eagles0513875hehe09:27
LantiziaDoes anyone know where I can find a repository (or the .deb files) for a 64-bit build of Thunderbird 3?  (and no I don't mean Shredder, something with the Thunderbird name/logo please) ?10:10
LantiziaKind of like the firefox-stable ppa10:10
BUGabundo_remotefta: like your boss ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc13:31
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we're just discussing in #ubuntu-desktop right now about fitting chromium on the CD13:49
chrisccoulsonwe might need some packaging changes to xulrunner to make that happen13:49
micahgchrisccoulson: ugh, I already added it to the list though :)13:50
chrisccoulsonthat's ok13:50
micahgchrisccoulson: xulrunner-nox should help13:50
chrisccoulsonthe only thing that will need xulrunner on UNE is couchdb, and that only uses spidermonkey13:50
chrisccoulsonso, ideally we would only have spidermonkey on UNE13:50
chrisccoulsoncurrently chromium takes up the space of firefox + xulrunner13:50
chrisccoulsonso we need to drop as much of both as possible from the CD to make it all fit ;)13:51
micahgchrisccoulson: I don't think we'll package spidermonkey separate though13:51
chrisccoulsonit might be the only way of getting it to fit ;)13:51
micahgchrisccoulson: well, if chromium is the default, why do we need firefox on the CD?13:51
chrisccoulsonmicahg - firefox won't be on the CD, but xulrunner still will be (because of couchdb)13:52
micahgchrisccoulson: right, so I want to make a version of xulrunner w/out X deps13:52
chrisccoulsondo you have an idea of how big that would be?13:52
micahgchrisccoulson: no, not at the moment13:52
ftafyi, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=4437714:24
BUGabundo_remotelet me see14:33
BUGabundo_remotefta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=4435814:34
BUGabundo_remoteI'm 'fighting' them on that bug14:34
BUGabundo_remotealready open two new ones, and they keep saying that there are diff bugs :(14:34
micahgchrisccoulson: I'll try to have TB3.0.5 ready by EOD14:37
ftaBUGabundo_remote, does it crash in single process mode?14:51
BUGabundo_remotefta: how do I force it ?14:52
BUGabundo_remote'eti14:52
BUGabundo_remotef14:52
ftahttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxDebugging14:53
BUGabundo_remotehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PReleaseSchedule14:53
BUGabundo_remotecan anyone ping robbie on that typo?14:53
micahgBUGabundo_remote: what typo?14:57
BUGabundo_remotemicahg: the dates on the bottom15:11
BUGabundo_remote29 before 2615:11
BUGabundo_remoteI would edit it my self, but it asks NOT to edit it15:11
micahgBUGabundo_remote: heh, that should be 19th :)15:11
micahgBUGabundo_remote: I'll try to ping him later15:12
BUGabundo_remoteok15:13
BUGabundo_remoteand that is 12.04???15:13
BUGabundo_remotelol15:13
BUGabundo_remoteor 11.04?15:13
micahgBUGabundo_remote: 12.04 (P release)15:14
BUGabundo_remotealready?15:27
micahgBUGabundo_remote: well, it was part of a proposal at UDS, did you read the ubuntu-devel post?15:29
jcastroasac: can you fill evan in on the packaging decision on bug #58226215:30
BUGabundo_remoteI haven't read much mail, latelly15:32
chrisccoulsonjcastro - what questions does evan have?15:34
jcastrochrisccoulson: I don't recall if he was around wrt. the debian packaging15:35
jcastrochrisccoulson: just explaining what our plan is to do with the packaging wrt. debian should do the trick15:35
asacjcastro: not exactly sure what that means15:38
asacjcastro: evan understands that system libs is a pain atm ...15:41
jcastroasac: yeah I just don't think he was around when we decided "let's just blacklist it"15:41
jcastroi don't think he knows the details of the changes in the packaging15:41
asachmm15:42
asacwell. i think he mostly cares for ubuntu :-P15:42
micahgchrisccoulson: ping17:09
chrisccoulsonhi micahg17:11
micahgchrisccoulson: hi, can I email you my package set request email to review quick?17:11
chrisccoulsonyeah, no problem17:11
micahgchrisccoulson: k, it's on its way17:12
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chrisccoulsoni've started work on the ff3.6.4 package for hardy now17:14
micahgchrisccoulson: k, great, it should just build w/out the KDE stuff :)17:14
chrisccoulsonyeah, the difficult bit is making sure all combinations of upgrades work17:15
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, yes17:16
chrisccoulsoni want to try and get this in to the PPA tomorrow anyway17:16
micahgchrisccoulson: have a gutsy CD around? ;)17:16
chrisccoulsonheh17:16
micahgdapper too :)17:16
chrisccoulsonwe don't need to worry about gutsy anymore. i'm more concerned with hardy->hardy->karmic17:16
chrisccoulsonthere's a lot of transitional package cruft in hardy17:17
micahgchrisccoulson: I hope you mean hardy->hardy->lucid :)17:17
chrisccoulsonoops17:17
chrisccoulsonyeah ;)17:17
chrisccoulsonheh17:17
micahgchrisccoulson: I'm going to push thunderbird-stable on Thursday night with a disclaimer that upgrades are untested17:17
micahgand people should file bugs if there are issues17:18
chrisccoulsonso, the list of packages seems to look ok17:29
micahgchrisccoulson: no, I'm more concerned with the text, asac signed off on the package list already17:30
chrisccoulsonah17:30
micahgchrisccoulson: I wanted to make sure that I don't sound like a lunatic :)17:30
chrisccoulsonmicahg - the text looks ok, but i'd probably refer to the launchpad team name for which you're requesting permissions too17:32
micahgchrisccoulson: k17:32
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micahgchrisccoulson: fingers crossed :)17:54
micahgasac: can you review this change to xulrunner-1.9.3.head quick: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/435637/17:55
DASPRiDhm, my thunderbird seems broken, when i start it, it doesnt open the email tab anymore, nor can i open it18:15
DASPRiDi get this error from the console: Fehler: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIJSON.decode]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/folderPane.js :: ftv_load :: line 126"  data: no]18:15
micahgDASPRiD: which version?18:16
DASPRiD3.0.418:16
DASPRiDit just happened today, but worked yesterday18:16
micahgDASPRiD: new addon?18:16
DASPRiDnope18:16
DASPRiDnothing changed18:16
micahgDASPRiD: I'm sorry, I don't have time to look right now, probably Thurs night/Fri morning, can you file a bug, maybe someone else can look at it18:17
DASPRiDhm yeah… i'll try to reinstall thunderbird first18:18
micahgDASPRiD: k18:18
DASPRiDmicahg, looks like the profile is somehow broken18:22
DASPRiDmicahg, folderTree.json seemed to be damaged to be exactly :)18:23
DASPRiDeven tho that file is surely not json18:25
micahgDASPRiD: did reinstalling the thunderbird package help?18:26
DASPRiDno18:26
micahgDASPRiD: are you on lucid?18:26
DASPRiDbut removing the folderTree.json file18:26
DASPRiDyes18:26
DASPRiDaltho now the accounts are not gruped anymore18:26
DASPRiDis the folderTree.json ment to be binary?18:27
micahgDASPRiD: where is this file?18:27
DASPRiD~/.thunderbird/<profile>/folderTree.json18:27
micahgDASPRiD: ah, it's in the profile18:27
DASPRiDoh wait18:28
DASPRiDthere seems to be something else wrong18:28
DASPRiDi cannot open session.json, it gives me an input/output error18:29
DASPRiDmaybe ecryptfs is borked18:29
micahgDASPRiD: yeah, seems to be a corrupt profile18:29
DASPRiDindeed, eCryptfs is spitting lots of errors18:30
DASPRiDheh and i can bet, why :/18:30
micahgDASPRiD: ah18:30
DASPRiDa kernel module freezed my kernel18:30
DASPRiDprobably ecryptfs was writing in that moment to the thunderbird profile18:30
DASPRiDseems i have to restore the profile by hand now... and i should start making backups ;)18:32
asacmicahg: you dropped the IF_LOCKED branch ... is that expected?18:34
asachmm. upstream dropped that branch too18:35
micahgasac: yeah, that's why I did it18:35
micahgasac: they didn't want to store locked prefs in user prefs18:35
asacwould need to see more context. hard to say18:36
micahgasac: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b723f72611ea18:36
asacif thats the case it should work. just try if locking prefs still works etc18:36
micahgasac: k, I guess I'll have to wait to push it until I can test tehn18:39
micahgasac: or can I push and then test later this week?18:41
asacmicahg: yeah. we should also think about upstreaming it18:41
asacafter testing18:41
asacnot sure why it didnt land yet. but on trunk it should be ok. we want lockPrefs everywhere imo18:41
micahgasac: k, I can follow up on your bug over the weekend, but I just wanted to get the dailies going again18:42
asacon my bug? whats that?18:42
micahgmozilla 46773818:42
asacsure go ahead with fixing dailies, but we should get this up asap ... avoids more work in future18:42
asacmozilla bug 46773818:42
asacubottu is gone18:43
micahgyeah, I'll go find jdps18:43
micahgjpds18:43
micahghttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46773818:43
asaccool18:43
micahgasac: ^^18:44
asack18:44
asacnow i see18:44
micahgasac: during June and July I want to try to upstream all patches we have for all the xul based apps18:45
asacheh. thats a great goal ;) ... lets hope we get half of them up at least ;)18:46
micahgasac: now that I have to do the merges on teh rdepends, I'm going to try to reduce the workload ;)18:46
micahgand we're still carrying a lot of patches on the mozilla apps as well18:47
micahgasac: should I subscribe you to the team blueprint?18:51
ftabug 58230818:56
ftaasac, jcastro: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/582308  :(18:57
micahgfta: bot is AWOL18:57
jcastrofta: we already blacklisted it18:57
micahgfta: I'll respond if you want18:57
ftai can do it but i feel like i will start a flame war, so i'd better avoid18:58
micahgfta: k, so should I?18:58
ftamicahg, yes please18:58
ftamicahg, in a nutshell, most of the debian changes are unwanted, and also, i totally hate it when they steal my commits without giving credits.18:59
ftaperiod18:59
micahgfta: that's basically what I said19:00
micahgfta: and the debian guy just complained about changes not being merged in :-/19:01
ftayeah, guess why i didn't do it ;)19:01
micahgheh19:01
ftaalso, the "now that debian has finally packaged it" part is making me mad19:02
ftagrrrr19:03
* fta takes a deep breath19:03
micahgfta: well, from the outside, that's how it looks unfortunately19:03
micahgonly the people in here know what's really going on19:03
jcastrofta: don't panic!19:04
ftajcastro, i don't panic, i feel robbed19:05
jcastrowell, let the guy go do his own thing *shrug*19:06
micahgBUGabundo: PReleaseSchedule fixed20:01
BUGabundocoolio20:02
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micahghttp://allievi.sssup.it/techblog/?p=26020:22
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ftajdstrand, here?21:41
jdstrandfta: yeah21:47
ftajdstrand, just checked --enable-udd-profiles for you21:47
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ftajdstrand, it triggers ShowSelectProfileDialog() which in case of linux (the gtk port) triggers NOTIMPLEMENTED() :(21:48
jdstrandfta: hehe21:48
jdstrandfta: thanks for looking into it :) I'll add that to my blog21:48
ftachrome/browser/views/dialog_stubs_gtk.cc21:49
ftait hasn't change since http://codereview.chromium.org/254007 landed21:49
ftajdstrand, ^^ also, about the undocumented/unsupported --flags, there are a lot of them.. see http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/common/chrome_switches.cc21:51
jdstrandfta: cool. I've made note of that21:53
ftajdstrand, also, i might steal your idea and add that to the launcher ;)22:00
fta(if i can't convince upstream to do it natively)22:01
jdstrandfta: go for it! :)22:03
ftajdstrand, just wondering about zenity on [xkl]ubuntu...22:09
ftait seems to drag only gtk but i don't understand the conflicts/replaces libgtkada2-bin22:11
ftaalso, when i use --user-data-dir, i also use --disk-cache-dir, though i'm not sure it's needed22:12
jdstrandfta: the cache dir gets put in --user-data-dir22:15
jdstrand$ pwd22:15
jdstrand/home/jamie/.config/chromium/Work/Default/Cache22:15
jdstrandfta: ^ at least with what is in lucid22:15
ftaok, good22:15
jdstrandfta: though, Default is still .config/chrmium/Default and .cache/chromium/Cache22:16
jdstrandfta: ie, when I don't specify --user-data-dir22:16
ftaBUGabundo_FlashF, you're on maverick right?22:51
BUGabundo_FlashFyep22:52
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BUGabundo_Narutofta: what was that about ?23:38
ftaBUGabundo_Naruto, just to know if it's in a sane enough state to upgrade23:42
micahgchrisccoulson: looks like I won't get to TB3.0.5 until Thurs night, if you need to upload to PPA sooner, please close bug 571296 as fixed upstream in the changelog23:42
BUGabundo_NarutoLOL23:42
BUGabundo_Narutoyou been here for how long?23:42
BUGabundo_Narutoasking if pre-alphas is "sane" LOLOL23:43
* micahg kicks ubot423:43
* BUGabundo_Naruto kicks too23:43
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ok, no worries23:44
ddecatormicahg: btw, on the topic of apport hooks (kinda), would it be good to have apport ask people whether or not they're intending to report a firefox bug or not?23:45
micahgchrisccoulson: k, is Fri Morning still a good time to meet?23:45
chrisccoulsonmicahg, yeah, that should be fine23:45
micahgddecator: on my list already :)23:45
micahgddecator: I'll update the blueprint and push up a spec to the wiki sometime soon23:45
ddecatormicahg: want me to give it a try this week? i know you already have a LOT going on, haha23:45
micahgchrisccoulson: I found out today I have a meeting at 14:00 UTC, so is 10:00 UTC too early?23:46
micahgddecator: not yet, there's a lot to do for it though23:46
ddecatormicahg: k23:47
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i think 10:00UTC is ok (that's 11am for me)23:47
chrisccoulsonooh, my laptop is starting to burn my legs23:47
micahgchrisccoulson: k, 5AM here :)23:48
chrisccoulsonheh, that's early23:48
chrisccoulsoni'm never awake at 5am ;)23:48
micahgchrisccoulson: any other time won't work unfortunately on Friday23:48
chrisccoulsonwell, unless i haven't gone to bed23:48
chrisccoulsonthats the only time i'm ever awake at 5am ;023:48
ftaBUGabundo_Naruto, no, not safe in that way, i don't care. just if it's upgradable as in no apt deps breakage23:55
ftaBUGabundo_Naruto, watching naruto?23:55
ftai stopped long ago23:56
BUGabundo_Narutofta: I am23:56
BUGabundo_Narutoor better.. was23:56
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BUGabundo_SGUfta: there are some dep breakings23:56
BUGabundo_SGUbut nothing to much23:56
BUGabundo_SGUlet me check23:56
ftai stopped ~ shippuuden 3523:56
BUGabundo_SGUI was lasting the previous to tonites23:57
BUGabundo_SGUThe following packages have been kept back:23:57
BUGabundo_SGU  libgnomeprintui2.2-common python-hachoir-metadata{a} python-twisted-conch{a}23:57
ftai'll wait then, no hurry23:58
ftaSGU, i'm on sync23:59

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