[07:39] <eagles0513875> morning all :)
[07:40] <ddecator> morning
[07:49] <eagles0513875> ddecator: you using firefox by any chance
[07:49] <ddecator> eagles0513875: yes i am
[07:50] <eagles0513875> are you having issues with firefox and it not knowing how to handle downloaded files
[07:50] <ddecator> ah, the "associated helper does not exist" or w/e thing?
[07:52] <eagles0513875> ya and we have to manually choose the program
[07:52] <ddecator> yah, that's a known bug, let me try to find it a sec
[07:53] <eagles0513875> ddecator: no need im just curious as to whats being done to fix it
[07:53] <ddecator> bug 239952
[07:54] <ddecator> waiting for upstream i believe
[07:58]  * eagles0513875 wonders what they are waiting for
[08:00] <ddecator> i think they're just busy focusing on Firefox 4
[08:00] <eagles0513875> couldnt we fix it downstream then submit a patch for it upstream
[08:02] <ddecator> potentially, but given that micah is already really busy, and the issue is easy enough to workaround, i don't think it's high on anybodys priority list atm
[08:04] <eagles0513875> ddecator: if someone could mentor me im more then willing to give it a shot
[08:04] <ddecator> i would hope that gets addressed by FF4 though
[08:05] <ddecator> eagles0513875: heh, i'm not really the one to talk to about that. i'm just starting packaging of other things, i'm not familiar enough with patching firefox. you can try asking on here during the busy hours to see what others say
[08:05] <eagles0513875> ya
[08:05] <eagles0513875> also i need to get into packaging as well
[08:05] <ddecator> i appreciate the enthusiasm though :)
[08:06] <eagles0513875> :)
[08:06] <eagles0513875> no problem
[08:06] <eagles0513875> i have always had a passion for computers
[08:06] <ddecator> i think most of us have :)
[08:07] <eagles0513875> first day of summer and i dunno what i wanna work on
[08:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:07] <ddecator> well there's plenty, haha. is packaging something you're interested in learning?
[08:07] <eagles0513875> hava a java project need to learn c++ as well as objective C and create a database
[08:07] <eagles0513875> ddecator: anythign linux i am more then willing to learn
[08:08] <ddecator> that's what we like to hear :)
[08:08] <eagles0513875> ddecator: ill be honest with you
[08:08] <eagles0513875> if i wasnt a gamer i could live without windows
[08:08] <eagles0513875> but i cant for somethings
[08:08] <ddecator> cross your fingers for steam then, haha
[08:09] <ddecator> well i take it you're more interested in development work than documents?
[08:09] <eagles0513875> ya
[08:10] <eagles0513875> as of this last yr my programming lecturer has really made me fall in love with programming
[08:10] <eagles0513875> ddecator: im in kubuntu-offtopic if you wanna hop in there so we dont derail the topic of this channel
[08:11] <ddecator> true, want to just do a pm?
[08:12] <eagles0513875> we could as well
[08:25] <eagles0513875> ddecator: back
[08:58] <BUGabundo_remote> I'm an ant,you're a bee
[08:58] <eagles0513875> morning ot you 2
[08:59] <ddecator> BUGabundo_remote: the two of us, we are three
[09:09] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[09:25] <asac> fta: yeah ;) ... let them fix the script for us :-P
[09:26] <eagles0513875> hey asac how come we dont fix the issue where when you download something firefox doesnt know how to handle it and then send the patch for it upstream
[09:27] <asac> eagles0513875: go ahead. you have my blessing to do that
[09:27] <eagles0513875> hehe
[10:10] <Lantizia> Does anyone know where I can find a repository (or the .deb files) for a 64-bit build of Thunderbird 3?  (and no I don't mean Shredder, something with the Thunderbird name/logo please) ?
[10:10] <Lantizia> Kind of like the firefox-stable ppa
[13:31] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: like your boss ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc
[13:49] <chrisccoulson> micahg - we're just discussing in #ubuntu-desktop right now about fitting chromium on the CD
[13:49] <chrisccoulson> we might need some packaging changes to xulrunner to make that happen
[13:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ugh, I already added it to the list though :)
[13:50] <chrisccoulson> that's ok
[13:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: xulrunner-nox should help
[13:50] <chrisccoulson> the only thing that will need xulrunner on UNE is couchdb, and that only uses spidermonkey
[13:50] <chrisccoulson> so, ideally we would only have spidermonkey on UNE
[13:50] <chrisccoulson> currently chromium takes up the space of firefox + xulrunner
[13:51] <chrisccoulson> so we need to drop as much of both as possible from the CD to make it all fit ;)
[13:51] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I don't think we'll package spidermonkey separate though
[13:51] <chrisccoulson> it might be the only way of getting it to fit ;)
[13:51] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, if chromium is the default, why do we need firefox on the CD?
[13:52] <chrisccoulson> micahg - firefox won't be on the CD, but xulrunner still will be (because of couchdb)
[13:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, so I want to make a version of xulrunner w/out X deps
[13:52] <chrisccoulson> do you have an idea of how big that would be?
[13:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, not at the moment
[14:24] <fta> fyi, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44377
[14:33] <BUGabundo_remote> let me see
[14:34] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44358
[14:34] <BUGabundo_remote> I'm 'fighting' them on that bug
[14:34] <BUGabundo_remote> already open two new ones, and they keep saying that there are diff bugs :(
[14:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll try to have TB3.0.5 ready by EOD
[14:51] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, does it crash in single process mode?
[14:52] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: how do I force it ?
[14:52] <BUGabundo_remote> 'eti
[14:52] <BUGabundo_remote> f
[14:53] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxDebugging
[14:53] <BUGabundo_remote> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PReleaseSchedule
[14:53] <BUGabundo_remote> can anyone ping robbie on that typo?
[14:57] <micahg> BUGabundo_remote: what typo?
[15:11] <BUGabundo_remote> micahg: the dates on the bottom
[15:11] <BUGabundo_remote> 29 before 26
[15:11] <BUGabundo_remote> I would edit it my self, but it asks NOT to edit it
[15:11] <micahg> BUGabundo_remote: heh, that should be 19th :)
[15:12] <micahg> BUGabundo_remote: I'll try to ping him later
[15:13] <BUGabundo_remote> ok
[15:13] <BUGabundo_remote> and that is 12.04???
[15:13] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[15:13] <BUGabundo_remote> or 11.04?
[15:14] <micahg> BUGabundo_remote: 12.04 (P release)
[15:27] <BUGabundo_remote> already?
[15:29] <micahg> BUGabundo_remote: well, it was part of a proposal at UDS, did you read the ubuntu-devel post?
[15:30] <jcastro> asac: can you fill evan in on the packaging decision on bug #582262
[15:32] <BUGabundo_remote> I haven't read much mail, latelly
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - what questions does evan have?
[15:35] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: I don't recall if he was around wrt. the debian packaging
[15:35] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: just explaining what our plan is to do with the packaging wrt. debian should do the trick
[15:38] <asac> jcastro: not exactly sure what that means
[15:41] <asac> jcastro: evan understands that system libs is a pain atm ...
[15:41] <jcastro> asac: yeah I just don't think he was around when we decided "let's just blacklist it"
[15:41] <jcastro> i don't think he knows the details of the changes in the packaging
[15:42] <asac> hmm
[15:42] <asac> well. i think he mostly cares for ubuntu :-P
[17:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ping
[17:11] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg
[17:11] <micahg> chrisccoulson: hi, can I email you my package set request email to review quick?
[17:11] <chrisccoulson> yeah, no problem
[17:12] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, it's on its way
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> i've started work on the ff3.6.4 package for hardy now
[17:14] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, great, it should just build w/out the KDE stuff :)
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, the difficult bit is making sure all combinations of upgrades work
[17:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ah, yes
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> i want to try and get this in to the PPA tomorrow anyway
[17:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: have a gutsy CD around? ;)
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:16] <micahg> dapper too :)
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> we don't need to worry about gutsy anymore. i'm more concerned with hardy->hardy->karmic
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> there's a lot of transitional package cruft in hardy
[17:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I hope you mean hardy->hardy->lucid :)
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> oops
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> yeah ;)
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm going to push thunderbird-stable on Thursday night with a disclaimer that upgrades are untested
[17:18] <micahg> and people should file bugs if there are issues
[17:29] <chrisccoulson> so, the list of packages seems to look ok
[17:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, I'm more concerned with the text, asac signed off on the package list already
[17:30] <chrisccoulson> ah
[17:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I wanted to make sure that I don't sound like a lunatic :)
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - the text looks ok, but i'd probably refer to the launchpad team name for which you're requesting permissions too
[17:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[17:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: fingers crossed :)
[17:55] <micahg> asac: can you review this change to xulrunner-1.9.3.head quick: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/435637/
[18:15] <DASPRiD> hm, my thunderbird seems broken, when i start it, it doesnt open the email tab anymore, nor can i open it
[18:15] <DASPRiD> i get this error from the console: Fehler: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIJSON.decode]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/folderPane.js :: ftv_load :: line 126"  data: no]
[18:16] <micahg> DASPRiD: which version?
[18:16] <DASPRiD> 3.0.4
[18:16] <DASPRiD> it just happened today, but worked yesterday
[18:16] <micahg> DASPRiD: new addon?
[18:16] <DASPRiD> nope
[18:16] <DASPRiD> nothing changed
[18:17] <micahg> DASPRiD: I'm sorry, I don't have time to look right now, probably Thurs night/Fri morning, can you file a bug, maybe someone else can look at it
[18:18] <DASPRiD> hm yeah… i'll try to reinstall thunderbird first
[18:18] <micahg> DASPRiD: k
[18:22] <DASPRiD> micahg, looks like the profile is somehow broken
[18:23] <DASPRiD> micahg, folderTree.json seemed to be damaged to be exactly :)
[18:25] <DASPRiD> even tho that file is surely not json
[18:26] <micahg> DASPRiD: did reinstalling the thunderbird package help?
[18:26] <DASPRiD> no
[18:26] <micahg> DASPRiD: are you on lucid?
[18:26] <DASPRiD> but removing the folderTree.json file
[18:26] <DASPRiD> yes
[18:26] <DASPRiD> altho now the accounts are not gruped anymore
[18:27] <DASPRiD> is the folderTree.json ment to be binary?
[18:27] <micahg> DASPRiD: where is this file?
[18:27] <DASPRiD> ~/.thunderbird/<profile>/folderTree.json
[18:27] <micahg> DASPRiD: ah, it's in the profile
[18:28] <DASPRiD> oh wait
[18:28] <DASPRiD> there seems to be something else wrong
[18:29] <DASPRiD> i cannot open session.json, it gives me an input/output error
[18:29] <DASPRiD> maybe ecryptfs is borked
[18:29] <micahg> DASPRiD: yeah, seems to be a corrupt profile
[18:30] <DASPRiD> indeed, eCryptfs is spitting lots of errors
[18:30] <DASPRiD> heh and i can bet, why :/
[18:30] <micahg> DASPRiD: ah
[18:30] <DASPRiD> a kernel module freezed my kernel
[18:30] <DASPRiD> probably ecryptfs was writing in that moment to the thunderbird profile
[18:32] <DASPRiD> seems i have to restore the profile by hand now... and i should start making backups ;)
[18:34] <asac> micahg: you dropped the IF_LOCKED branch ... is that expected?
[18:35] <asac> hmm. upstream dropped that branch too
[18:35] <micahg> asac: yeah, that's why I did it
[18:35] <micahg> asac: they didn't want to store locked prefs in user prefs
[18:36] <asac> would need to see more context. hard to say
[18:36] <micahg> asac: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b723f72611ea
[18:36] <asac> if thats the case it should work. just try if locking prefs still works etc
[18:39] <micahg> asac: k, I guess I'll have to wait to push it until I can test tehn
[18:41] <micahg> asac: or can I push and then test later this week?
[18:41] <asac> micahg: yeah. we should also think about upstreaming it
[18:41] <asac> after testing
[18:41] <asac> not sure why it didnt land yet. but on trunk it should be ok. we want lockPrefs everywhere imo
[18:42] <micahg> asac: k, I can follow up on your bug over the weekend, but I just wanted to get the dailies going again
[18:42] <asac> on my bug? whats that?
[18:42] <micahg> mozilla 467738
[18:42] <asac> sure go ahead with fixing dailies, but we should get this up asap ... avoids more work in future
[18:42] <asac> mozilla bug 467738
[18:43] <asac> ubottu is gone
[18:43] <micahg> yeah, I'll go find jdps
[18:43] <micahg> jpds
[18:43] <micahg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467738
[18:43] <asac> cool
[18:44] <micahg> asac: ^^
[18:44] <asac> k
[18:44] <asac> now i see
[18:45] <micahg> asac: during June and July I want to try to upstream all patches we have for all the xul based apps
[18:46] <asac> heh. thats a great goal ;) ... lets hope we get half of them up at least ;)
[18:46] <micahg> asac: now that I have to do the merges on teh rdepends, I'm going to try to reduce the workload ;)
[18:47] <micahg> and we're still carrying a lot of patches on the mozilla apps as well
[18:51] <micahg> asac: should I subscribe you to the team blueprint?
[18:56] <fta> bug 582308
[18:57] <fta> asac, jcastro: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/582308  :(
[18:57] <micahg> fta: bot is AWOL
[18:57] <jcastro> fta: we already blacklisted it
[18:57] <micahg> fta: I'll respond if you want
[18:58] <fta> i can do it but i feel like i will start a flame war, so i'd better avoid
[18:58] <micahg> fta: k, so should I?
[18:58] <fta> micahg, yes please
[18:59] <fta> micahg, in a nutshell, most of the debian changes are unwanted, and also, i totally hate it when they steal my commits without giving credits.
[18:59] <fta> period
[19:00] <micahg> fta: that's basically what I said
[19:01] <micahg> fta: and the debian guy just complained about changes not being merged in :-/
[19:01] <fta> yeah, guess why i didn't do it ;)
[19:01] <micahg> heh
[19:02] <fta> also, the "now that debian has finally packaged it" part is making me mad
[19:03] <fta> grrrr
[19:03]  * fta takes a deep breath
[19:03] <micahg> fta: well, from the outside, that's how it looks unfortunately
[19:03] <micahg> only the people in here know what's really going on
[19:04] <jcastro> fta: don't panic!
[19:05] <fta> jcastro, i don't panic, i feel robbed
[19:06] <jcastro> well, let the guy go do his own thing *shrug*
[20:01] <micahg> BUGabundo: PReleaseSchedule fixed
[20:02] <BUGabundo> coolio
[20:22] <micahg> http://allievi.sssup.it/techblog/?p=260
[21:41] <fta> jdstrand, here?
[21:47] <jdstrand> fta: yeah
[21:47] <fta> jdstrand, just checked --enable-udd-profiles for you
[21:48] <fta> jdstrand, it triggers ShowSelectProfileDialog() which in case of linux (the gtk port) triggers NOTIMPLEMENTED() :(
[21:48] <jdstrand> fta: hehe
[21:48] <jdstrand> fta: thanks for looking into it :) I'll add that to my blog
[21:49] <fta> chrome/browser/views/dialog_stubs_gtk.cc
[21:49] <fta> it hasn't change since http://codereview.chromium.org/254007 landed
[21:51] <fta> jdstrand, ^^ also, about the undocumented/unsupported --flags, there are a lot of them.. see http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/common/chrome_switches.cc
[21:53] <jdstrand> fta: cool. I've made note of that
[22:00] <fta> jdstrand, also, i might steal your idea and add that to the launcher ;)
[22:01] <fta> (if i can't convince upstream to do it natively)
[22:03] <jdstrand> fta: go for it! :)
[22:09] <fta> jdstrand, just wondering about zenity on [xkl]ubuntu...
[22:11] <fta> it seems to drag only gtk but i don't understand the conflicts/replaces libgtkada2-bin
[22:12] <fta> also, when i use --user-data-dir, i also use --disk-cache-dir, though i'm not sure it's needed
[22:15] <jdstrand> fta: the cache dir gets put in --user-data-dir
[22:15] <jdstrand> $ pwd
[22:15] <jdstrand> /home/jamie/.config/chromium/Work/Default/Cache
[22:15] <jdstrand> fta: ^ at least with what is in lucid
[22:15] <fta> ok, good
[22:16] <jdstrand> fta: though, Default is still .config/chrmium/Default and .cache/chromium/Cache
[22:16] <jdstrand> fta: ie, when I don't specify --user-data-dir
[22:51] <fta> BUGabundo_FlashF, you're on maverick right?
[22:52] <BUGabundo_FlashF> yep
[23:38] <BUGabundo_Naruto> fta: what was that about ?
[23:42] <fta> BUGabundo_Naruto, just to know if it's in a sane enough state to upgrade
[23:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: looks like I won't get to TB3.0.5 until Thurs night, if you need to upload to PPA sooner, please close bug 571296 as fixed upstream in the changelog
[23:42] <BUGabundo_Naruto> LOL
[23:42] <BUGabundo_Naruto> you been here for how long?
[23:43] <BUGabundo_Naruto> asking if pre-alphas is "sane" LOLOL
[23:43]  * micahg kicks ubot4
[23:43]  * BUGabundo_Naruto kicks too
[23:44] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, no worries
[23:45] <ddecator> micahg: btw, on the topic of apport hooks (kinda), would it be good to have apport ask people whether or not they're intending to report a firefox bug or not?
[23:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, is Fri Morning still a good time to meet?
[23:45] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah, that should be fine
[23:45] <micahg> ddecator: on my list already :)
[23:45] <micahg> ddecator: I'll update the blueprint and push up a spec to the wiki sometime soon
[23:45] <ddecator> micahg: want me to give it a try this week? i know you already have a LOT going on, haha
[23:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I found out today I have a meeting at 14:00 UTC, so is 10:00 UTC too early?
[23:46] <micahg> ddecator: not yet, there's a lot to do for it though
[23:47] <ddecator> micahg: k
[23:47] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i think 10:00UTC is ok (that's 11am for me)
[23:47] <chrisccoulson> ooh, my laptop is starting to burn my legs
[23:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, 5AM here :)
[23:48] <chrisccoulson> heh, that's early
[23:48] <chrisccoulson> i'm never awake at 5am ;)
[23:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: any other time won't work unfortunately on Friday
[23:48] <chrisccoulson> well, unless i haven't gone to bed
[23:48] <chrisccoulson> thats the only time i'm ever awake at 5am ;0
[23:55] <fta> BUGabundo_Naruto, no, not safe in that way, i don't care. just if it's upgradable as in no apt deps breakage
[23:55] <fta> BUGabundo_Naruto, watching naruto?
[23:56] <fta> i stopped long ago
[23:56] <BUGabundo_Naruto> fta: I am
[23:56] <BUGabundo_Naruto> or better.. was
[23:56] <BUGabundo_SGU> fta: there are some dep breakings
[23:56] <BUGabundo_SGU> but nothing to much
[23:56] <BUGabundo_SGU> let me check
[23:56] <fta> i stopped ~ shippuuden 35
[23:57] <BUGabundo_SGU> I was lasting the previous to tonites
[23:57] <BUGabundo_SGU> The following packages have been kept back:
[23:57] <BUGabundo_SGU>   libgnomeprintui2.2-common python-hachoir-metadata{a} python-twisted-conch{a}
[23:58] <fta> i'll wait then, no hurry
[23:59] <fta> SGU, i'm on sync