[00:15] <CaptainTrek> TDP_Ack:  FYI: be polite when asking to be unbanned
[00:16] <CaptainTrek> 90% of all chanops prefer respect over being demanding
[00:16] <CaptainTrek> sorry to intrude, just a heads up (I read messages in #freenode xD)
[01:15] <funkyHat> @login
[01:15] <funkyHat> @btlogin
[01:38] <IdleOne> rm-f`whoami` <--- isn't that a dangerous command?
[01:39] <mneptok> not when typo'ed like that
[01:41] <funkyHat> ;þ
[01:41] <IdleOne> ok
[01:41] <IdleOne> just making sure
[01:42] <IdleOne> also what is Pärsk! in english? I believe that is swedish
[01:42] <IdleOne> google translate is failing
[01:43] <funkyHat> It's not especially dangerous even if it's not typo'd, might be moreso if you were in /home but even then
[01:47] <IdleOne> btw thanks to whoever gave ubottu a shot of B12. she is back!
[01:48] <mneptok> IdleOne: you might want to add an ident to koanen_t's ban and remove the dynamic bit from the hostmask.
[01:48] <IdleOne> errr
[01:49] <IdleOne> what good is having a script that doesn't set proper bans :/
[01:49] <mneptok> *!*koanen*@*.dialup.ice.net
[01:49] <mneptok> IdleOne: i don;t use scripts to set bans. this is why.
[01:49] <funkyHat> IdleOne: for non dynamic IPs autobleh does a good job
[01:50] <mneptok> IdleOne: and remove the previous ban to keep the banlist from filling ;)
[01:50] <IdleOne> I am using chanserv.py
[01:50] <IdleOne> mneptok: yup
[01:51] <funkyHat> Ah. Well I think chanserv.py is based on autobleh, or maybe the other way around
[01:51] <funkyHat> s/based on/inspired by/
[04:31] <Jordan_U> That last flood by ebhakt in #ubuntu was spam.
[04:32] <Jordan_U> nvm, I see he was banned from freenode entirely.
[04:32] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: he got klined
[04:33] <IdleOne> :)
[04:33] <IdleOne> thank you though
[05:41] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-ni, Angeltronix said: !n0rman is gay
[05:46] <Flannel> Classy
[05:48] <maco> Flannel: i just went in and told him/her off for using gay as a pejorative
[05:48] <maco> though i cant say "pejorative" in spanish so im just gonna hope that if they know "is gay" in english theyll know that much too
[06:01] <elky> "as an insult" is probably better understood
[06:16] <Jordan_U> in #ubuntu: 22:16 < ryder`> how come yall niggaz so gay?
[06:16] <maco> gahh
[07:14] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <elky> cute.
[08:26] <Flannel> hmm?
[08:29] <jussi> Jordan_U: did you need anything else?
[08:33] <elky> Flannel, i asked someone to stop the potty mouth, so someone else responded by pinging me to say more potty mouth.
[08:33] <Flannel> Ah
[09:59] <jussi> Right, Ill send a ML post also, but just so no-one gets crazy, we have changed the bots around a little. there are now "lubotu" bots for loco chans and and ubot5. see the w.u.c/IRC/Bots for more info on which bots are where.
[10:08] <elky> that sounds almost dirty.
[10:10] <persia> breaks nick completion :(
[11:29] <bazhang> Bacta, how can we help you
[11:29] <Bacta> I joined #ubuntu and I ended up in here
[11:29] <Bacta> How can I help you?
[11:30] <bazhang> then best to take #ubuntu off your auto-join list in your irc client
[11:30] <persia> Well, or resolve whatever is causing the forwarding.
[11:31] <Bacta> persia: Sounds like a plan
[11:31] <bazhang> Bacta, you were banned by ikonia , you should speak to him about your ban
[11:31] <Bacta> ikonia won't speak to me about my ban
[11:32] <Bacta> He then started banning me on site from other *buntu channels
[11:34] <Bacta> Obviously it's convenient to keep me on this merry go round but as a code contributor I think it's in everyones interest that this is sorted out .. it's been going on for months now
[11:35] <funkyHat> Bacta: being a code contributor doesn't grant you immunity to the IRC guidelines
[11:35] <bazhang>  #ubuntu: 2010-02-14T10:13:37 <Bacta> Bacta's the name, trollin's the game!
[11:35] <bazhang> that was the last entry before your ban in #ubuntu
[11:35] <Bacta> over three months ago
[11:36] <Bacta> yep, and then I got banned in #ubuntu+1 not having said a word
[11:37] <Tm_M> K'day
[11:37] <Bacta> Hi
[11:40] <bazhang> !forget recon-#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <Tm_M> is someone taking care of things with bacta?
[11:42] <Bacta> Nope but if you're willing to step in I'll be happy
[11:43] <Tm_M> sorry not possible at this time, t9 is not suitable for that
[11:45] <Bacta> t9?
[11:51] <bazhang> I'm a bit busy at the moment as well, if someone else would like to discuss with Bacta
[11:52] <Bacta> I know you can't idle in here so if someone wants to PM me about this that's cool too
[12:47] <ikonia> Bacta: please don't lie
[12:47] <ikonia> Bacta: I will speakt o you about your ban, allow me to update the channel publicly
[12:48] <ikonia> Bacta: you are currently banned form ubuntu core channels, due to your long term behaviour. We have exausted any futher resolution in #ubuntu-ops and you have been instructed to follow the appeals process
[12:49] <ikonia> incase you have forgoton the appeals process I'll get the bot ot remind you
[12:49] <Bacta> I won't follow the appeals process because it's stacked and lacks transparency
[12:49] <ikonia> !appeals | Bacta
[12:50] <ikonia> Bacta: the process is %101 transparant
[12:50] <Bacta> And frankly if you have anything to do with it it will never be fair
[12:50] <ikonia> I don't have anything to do with it
[12:50] <bazhang> he doesn't
[12:51] <ikonia> So please follow the appeals process to get you bans removed
[12:51] <Bacta> I've got logs of ikonia breaching the IRC op guidelines ... Is that admissible?
[12:51] <ikonia> sure
[12:51] <Bacta> ./ignore ikonia
[12:51] <ikonia> you've been trying to blackmail me with that for months, so please submit it
[12:51] <Bacta> bazhang: I'll get onto it ASAP
[12:51] <ikonia> ignoring someone won't help and is an issue with your attitude in total
[12:51] <elky> Ignoring an op isn't going to help your case, either.
[12:52] <Bacta> ./ignore elky
[12:52] <ikonia> I'm surprised with have to go through this song and dance again for the 101 time
[12:52] <ikonia> ok - enough now. Please remove bacta, it's clear his intention is to cause an issue as it has been on freenode all week (as normal)
[12:52] <elky> @mark bacta #ubuntu-ops ignoring ops, please note this when considering his appeal
[12:54] <elky> @mark bacta #ubuntu-ops ignoring ops, please note this when considering his appeal
[12:55] <ikonia> elky: as he's ignoring me he won't see me ask him to leave can you please remove him from the channel
[12:55] <ikonia> this discussion is as normal going nowhere and the appeals process needs to be followed
[12:56] <elky> Right, so you're not ignoring us.
[12:56] <ikonia> as he is ignoring the active ops please put a message informing him not to rejoin and follow the appeals process
[12:56] <ikonia> as this is a waste of time
[12:58] <elky> :D
[12:59] <elky> Has he ever actually followed the appeals process?
[12:59] <Pici> Nope.
[12:59] <elky> I mean, he's claiming it's not transparent, so obviously he doesn't mind you providing information that's not currently googleable.
[13:08] <Pici> !forget trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic
[13:11] <jussi> jpds: please make sure the auto remove is gone.
[13:12] <jussi> err autojoin
[13:21] <jpds> jussi: hmm?
[13:21] <jussi> jpds: ubot5 shouldnt be in here as I see it, unless you have a reason for it being here?
[13:21] <jpds> jussi: I don't run it.
[13:21] <jussi> oh
[13:22] <jussi> tsimpson: put it up then... :D
[13:22] <jussi> sorry for the disturbance
[13:22] <jpds> No problem.
[13:49] <IdleOne> -ot has degenerated into a troll heaven and the sad part is that there are ubuntu members and regulars who are the leaders of the trolls
[13:50] <elky> You're only noticing this now?
[13:50] <elky> I'm not sure ljl is a member anymore though
[13:50] <IdleOne> he isn't
[13:50] <IdleOne> but knows better
[13:50] <IdleOne> way better
[13:50] <IdleOne> considering he helps with the bots
[13:50] <jpds> He is.
[13:50] <bazhang> thought he was, just switched his cloak
[13:50] <topyli> i have jargon- from -ot in pm. my warnings are greeted with accusations of trying to cyber with him
[13:51] <topyli> just for the record
[13:51] <Pici> oh.  Wonderful.
[13:51] <bazhang> thanks topyli !
[13:51] <elky> topyli, you dirty old man.
[13:51] <IdleOne> the crazyness in there is being allowed to go on for to long.
[13:51] <Pici> I was going to take him into pm, but it seemed to be getting back to 'normal'.
[13:51] <topyli> elky, heh
[13:52] <IdleOne> jpds: even worse if ljl is a memeber
[13:52] <elky> We've been saying this for months, IdleOne. You just need to be an op to realise exactly how bad it is.
[13:52] <bazhang> thankfully I am off the highlight list in there now
[13:53] <IdleOne> elky: I have seen it for months but since I sat at my computer this morning ~45 minutes or so it has been continous and just warning after warning with no action being taken
[13:53] <IdleOne> every now and then a little butt kicking is in order to set the regulars back into place imho
[13:53] <elky> It'd help if the CC didn't have a history of siding with problem makers.
[13:54] <IdleOne> I'm not trying to place blame on anyone. the CC the IRCC the ops team all work hard. just seems to me that -ot is left to do it's thing with the hopes it doesn't get to bad
[13:55] <elky> IdleOne, I'm saying that it's hard to act because the people in there know how to "win".
[13:55] <IdleOne> ok then change the playing field
[13:56] <IdleOne> "Here are the new rules" follow them!
[13:56] <IdleOne> everybody has a vote and a say is nice and all but someone has to be the boss
[13:57] <elky> I dream of that utopia too.
[13:58] <topyli> IdleOne, iirc you're an -ot operator, get to work :)
[13:58] <IdleOne> I am?
[13:58] <IdleOne> I am not
[13:58] <IdleOne> give me access and I will
[13:58] <bazhang> phew
[13:59] <IdleOne> bazhang: :)
[13:59] <IdleOne> I like you so I would try to not kick you
[13:59] <IdleOne> :P
[13:59] <IdleOne> I said TRY
[13:59] <topyli> IdleOne, oh you aren't, sorry
[13:59] <bazhang> you'll get used to the controlled chaos there
[13:59] <IdleOne> no problem
[14:00] <IdleOne> topyli: probably better off anyway. I had to stop myself from losing it earlier in there
[14:03] <topyli> it is a bit "special" in ways i can't easily describe
[14:03] <IdleOne> topyli: you mean the channel is special?
[14:03] <topyli> yeah
[14:04] <IdleOne> I think that is the problem
[14:05] <IdleOne> For to long it has had this "-ot is special" label so we need to apply the rules but differently
[14:09] <topyli> IdleOne, we should apply the same rules the same way, we simply keep failing
[14:19] <IdleOne> topyli: "we should apply the same rules the same way" that is all I am saying
[14:20] <topyli> "we keep failing," that's all i, in turn am saying
[14:21] <topyli> we can do better i'm sure, but it's also good for -ot to be a bit laid back. that's why we go there in the first place
[14:21] <IdleOne> well let us focus on fixing the issues and not what we have failed at
[14:21] <topyli> aye
[14:22] <IdleOne> topyli: there is laid back and there is total disregard for any semblance of order
[14:22] <Pici> I think we should all try to uphold the rules there, regardless of whether we have access there.
[14:22] <IdleOne> Pici: I try but sometimes get the feeling that well you are not an op here so who cares what you think
[14:22] <Pici> Just because someone doesn't have power there doesn't mean they can't tell someone to stop.
[14:23] <IdleOne> topyli: my main ugh about -ot is that members are a big part of the trollish behavior
[14:24] <IdleOne> as members are they not held to higher standards?
[14:24] <IdleOne> unless I did not understand the CoC when I read it
[14:24] <IdleOne> or was the ops
[14:25] <IdleOne> s/the/that
[14:25] <topyli> it's a well known problem
[14:25] <IdleOne> there is a solution
[14:25] <Pici> Everyone is held to the same standards, but members get to be told that they should know better.
[14:26] <IdleOne> Pici: I am not a member and there were a couple of occasions that I got told I know should know better. I listened and understood. THEY don't care.
[14:26] <bazhang> I admire your fervor
[14:27] <IdleOne> bazhang: it's blueberry flavored
[14:27] <IdleOne> oh fervor heh
[14:27] <IdleOne> not flavor
[14:27] <IdleOne> :P
[15:00] <h00k> @login
[15:00] <h00k> @btlogin
[15:06] <h00k> greetings.
[15:06]  * h00k reads backlog
[15:09] <IdleOne> morning h00k
[15:09] <h00k> IdleOne: morning
[15:12] <h00k> I've been extremely busy: Finals, moving, etc
[15:12] <IdleOne> yeah, I saw you moved yesterday
[15:13] <IdleOne> how did all that go?
[15:13]  * IdleOne use to do moving for a living :( man I hated it
[15:14] <h00k> Meh, all of my stuff is in my car, I'm staying with Britt until she has to move back on Thursday.
[15:14] <h00k> so, I'm livin' from a bag. it's not bad.
[15:35] <h00k> look is pushin' it this morning.
[15:48] <IdleOne> clone4ubuntu ban evading in #ubuntu?
[15:48] <Pici> I don't see a ban for him, was there supposed to be one?
[15:49] <IdleOne>  Match: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by tsimpson in #ubuntu on Apr 06 2010 02:56:04 (ID: 24604)
[15:49] <IdleOne> errr maybe not
[15:49] <Pici> :)
[15:49] <IdleOne> :)
[16:07] <h00k> look apologized in a /query for his behavior earlier
[16:07] <h00k> for anyone who was following that
[16:07] <h00k> in #u-o
[16:11] <IdleOne> yeah, until next time
[16:11] <IdleOne> to be fair we did give him a couple of weeks of "look it's look" highlights
[16:13] <h00k> He understands joking about trolling is not acceptable
[16:38] <jpds> Fun.
[18:05] <IdleOne> did I just get banned from -ot?
[18:05] <IdleOne> nm
[18:06] <IdleOne> window detached lol
[18:25] <Pici> !gps
[18:25] <Pici> !no gps is <reply> Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, Gosmore, Roadnav (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[18:41] <ikonia> some interesting names on there
[19:22] <Pici> !away > zYc|off
[20:28] <ikonia> smoothopertor is making fun of the channel, he knows what he's doing, he's in ##linux
[20:39] <ikonia> hello apw
[20:56] <tsimpson> apw: are you here?
[20:57] <tsimpson> apw: please idle in #ubuntu-irc rather than here
[23:36] <funkyHat> it appears I can't banforward to here
[23:37] <tsimpson> you should be able to
[23:42] <funkyHat> Oh, looks like I just did it wrong