[00:15] TDP_Ack: FYI: be polite when asking to be unbanned [00:16] 90% of all chanops prefer respect over being demanding [00:16] sorry to intrude, just a heads up (I read messages in #freenode xD) [01:10] SpaceGhostC2C called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (heisei asked for a kick) [01:15] @login [01:15] The operation succeeded. [01:15] @btlogin [01:38] rm-f`whoami` <--- isn't that a dangerous command? [01:39] not when typo'ed like that [01:41] ;þ [01:41] ok [01:41] just making sure [01:42] also what is Pärsk! in english? I believe that is swedish [01:42] google translate is failing [01:43] It's not especially dangerous even if it's not typo'd, might be moreso if you were in /home but even then [01:47] btw thanks to whoever gave ubottu a shot of B12. she is back! [01:48] IdleOne: you might want to add an ident to koanen_t's ban and remove the dynamic bit from the hostmask. [01:48] errr [01:49] what good is having a script that doesn't set proper bans :/ [01:49] *!*koanen*@*.dialup.ice.net [01:49] IdleOne: i don;t use scripts to set bans. this is why. [01:49] IdleOne: for non dynamic IPs autobleh does a good job [01:50] IdleOne: and remove the previous ban to keep the banlist from filling ;) [01:50] I am using chanserv.py [01:50] mneptok: yup [01:51] Ah. Well I think chanserv.py is based on autobleh, or maybe the other way around [01:51] s/based on/inspired by/ [04:31] That last flood by ebhakt in #ubuntu was spam. [04:32] nvm, I see he was banned from freenode entirely. [04:32] Jordan_U: he got klined [04:33] :) [04:33] thank you though [05:41] In #ubuntu-ni, Angeltronix said: !n0rman is gay [05:46] Classy [05:48] Flannel: i just went in and told him/her off for using gay as a pejorative [05:48] though i cant say "pejorative" in spanish so im just gonna hope that if they know "is gay" in english theyll know that much too [06:01] "as an insult" is probably better understood [06:16] in #ubuntu: 22:16 < ryder`> how come yall niggaz so gay? [06:16] gahh [07:14] good morning [08:24] cute. [08:26] hmm? [08:29] Jordan_U: did you need anything else? [08:33] Flannel, i asked someone to stop the potty mouth, so someone else responded by pinging me to say more potty mouth. [08:33] Ah [08:44] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from kevr) === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [09:59] Right, Ill send a ML post also, but just so no-one gets crazy, we have changed the bots around a little. there are now "lubotu" bots for loco chans and and ubot5. see the w.u.c/IRC/Bots for more info on which bots are where. [10:08] that sounds almost dirty. [10:10] breaks nick completion :( [11:27] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !forget !recon-#ubuntu-offtopic [11:29] Bacta, how can we help you [11:29] I joined #ubuntu and I ended up in here [11:29] How can I help you? [11:30] then best to take #ubuntu off your auto-join list in your irc client [11:30] Well, or resolve whatever is causing the forwarding. [11:31] persia: Sounds like a plan [11:31] Bacta, you were banned by ikonia , you should speak to him about your ban [11:31] ikonia won't speak to me about my ban [11:32] He then started banning me on site from other *buntu channels [11:34] Obviously it's convenient to keep me on this merry go round but as a code contributor I think it's in everyones interest that this is sorted out .. it's been going on for months now [11:35] Bacta: being a code contributor doesn't grant you immunity to the IRC guidelines [11:35] #ubuntu: 2010-02-14T10:13:37 Bacta's the name, trollin's the game! [11:35] that was the last entry before your ban in #ubuntu [11:35] over three months ago [11:36] yep, and then I got banned in #ubuntu+1 not having said a word [11:37] K'day [11:37] Hi [11:40] !forget recon-#ubuntu-offtopic [11:40] I'll forget that, bazhang [11:42] is someone taking care of things with bacta? [11:42] Nope but if you're willing to step in I'll be happy [11:43] sorry not possible at this time, t9 is not suitable for that [11:45] t9? === Seeker`_ is now known as seeker [11:51] I'm a bit busy at the moment as well, if someone else would like to discuss with Bacta [11:52] I know you can't idle in here so if someone wants to PM me about this that's cool too [12:47] Bacta: please don't lie [12:47] Bacta: I will speakt o you about your ban, allow me to update the channel publicly [12:48] Bacta: you are currently banned form ubuntu core channels, due to your long term behaviour. We have exausted any futher resolution in #ubuntu-ops and you have been instructed to follow the appeals process [12:49] incase you have forgoton the appeals process I'll get the bot ot remind you [12:49] I won't follow the appeals process because it's stacked and lacks transparency [12:49] !appeals | Bacta [12:49] Bacta: If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [12:50] Bacta: the process is %101 transparant [12:50] And frankly if you have anything to do with it it will never be fair [12:50] I don't have anything to do with it [12:50] he doesn't [12:51] So please follow the appeals process to get you bans removed [12:51] I've got logs of ikonia breaching the IRC op guidelines ... Is that admissible? [12:51] sure [12:51] ./ignore ikonia [12:51] you've been trying to blackmail me with that for months, so please submit it [12:51] bazhang: I'll get onto it ASAP [12:51] ignoring someone won't help and is an issue with your attitude in total [12:51] Ignoring an op isn't going to help your case, either. [12:52] ./ignore elky [12:52] I'm surprised with have to go through this song and dance again for the 101 time [12:52] ok - enough now. Please remove bacta, it's clear his intention is to cause an issue as it has been on freenode all week (as normal) [12:52] @mark bacta #ubuntu-ops ignoring ops, please note this when considering his appeal [12:54] @mark bacta #ubuntu-ops ignoring ops, please note this when considering his appeal [12:54] The operation succeeded. [12:55] elky: as he's ignoring me he won't see me ask him to leave can you please remove him from the channel [12:55] this discussion is as normal going nowhere and the appeals process needs to be followed [12:56] Right, so you're not ignoring us. [12:56] as he is ignoring the active ops please put a message informing him not to rejoin and follow the appeals process [12:56] as this is a waste of time [12:58] :D [12:59] Has he ever actually followed the appeals process? [12:59] Nope. [12:59] I mean, he's claiming it's not transparent, so obviously he doesn't mind you providing information that's not currently googleable. [13:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !forget trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic [13:08] !forget trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic [13:08] I'll forget that, Pici [13:09] In #ubuntu-offtopic, LjL said: !unforget trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic [13:11] jpds: please make sure the auto remove is gone. [13:12] err autojoin [13:21] jussi: hmm? [13:21] jpds: ubot5 shouldnt be in here as I see it, unless you have a reason for it being here? [13:21] jussi: I don't run it. [13:21] oh [13:22] tsimpson: put it up then... :D [13:22] sorry for the disturbance [13:22] No problem. [13:49] -ot has degenerated into a troll heaven and the sad part is that there are ubuntu members and regulars who are the leaders of the trolls [13:50] You're only noticing this now? [13:50] I'm not sure ljl is a member anymore though [13:50] he isn't [13:50] but knows better [13:50] way better [13:50] considering he helps with the bots [13:50] He is. [13:50] thought he was, just switched his cloak [13:50] i have jargon- from -ot in pm. my warnings are greeted with accusations of trying to cyber with him [13:51] just for the record [13:51] oh. Wonderful. [13:51] thanks topyli ! [13:51] topyli, you dirty old man. [13:51] the crazyness in there is being allowed to go on for to long. [13:51] I was going to take him into pm, but it seemed to be getting back to 'normal'. [13:51] elky, heh [13:52] jpds: even worse if ljl is a memeber [13:52] We've been saying this for months, IdleOne. You just need to be an op to realise exactly how bad it is. [13:52] thankfully I am off the highlight list in there now [13:53] elky: I have seen it for months but since I sat at my computer this morning ~45 minutes or so it has been continous and just warning after warning with no action being taken [13:53] every now and then a little butt kicking is in order to set the regulars back into place imho [13:53] It'd help if the CC didn't have a history of siding with problem makers. [13:54] I'm not trying to place blame on anyone. the CC the IRCC the ops team all work hard. just seems to me that -ot is left to do it's thing with the hopes it doesn't get to bad [13:55] IdleOne, I'm saying that it's hard to act because the people in there know how to "win". [13:55] ok then change the playing field [13:56] "Here are the new rules" follow them! [13:56] everybody has a vote and a say is nice and all but someone has to be the boss [13:57] I dream of that utopia too. [13:58] IdleOne, iirc you're an -ot operator, get to work :) [13:58] I am? [13:58] I am not [13:58] give me access and I will [13:58] phew [13:59] bazhang: :) [13:59] I like you so I would try to not kick you [13:59] :P [13:59] I said TRY [13:59] IdleOne, oh you aren't, sorry [13:59] you'll get used to the controlled chaos there [13:59] no problem [14:00] topyli: probably better off anyway. I had to stop myself from losing it earlier in there [14:03] it is a bit "special" in ways i can't easily describe [14:03] topyli: you mean the channel is special? [14:03] yeah [14:04] I think that is the problem [14:05] For to long it has had this "-ot is special" label so we need to apply the rules but differently [14:09] IdleOne, we should apply the same rules the same way, we simply keep failing [14:19] topyli: "we should apply the same rules the same way" that is all I am saying [14:20] "we keep failing," that's all i, in turn am saying [14:21] we can do better i'm sure, but it's also good for -ot to be a bit laid back. that's why we go there in the first place [14:21] well let us focus on fixing the issues and not what we have failed at [14:21] aye [14:22] topyli: there is laid back and there is total disregard for any semblance of order [14:22] I think we should all try to uphold the rules there, regardless of whether we have access there. [14:22] Pici: I try but sometimes get the feeling that well you are not an op here so who cares what you think [14:22] Just because someone doesn't have power there doesn't mean they can't tell someone to stop. [14:23] topyli: my main ugh about -ot is that members are a big part of the trollish behavior [14:24] as members are they not held to higher standards? [14:24] unless I did not understand the CoC when I read it [14:24] or was the ops [14:25] s/the/that [14:25] it's a well known problem [14:25] there is a solution [14:25] Everyone is held to the same standards, but members get to be told that they should know better. [14:26] Pici: I am not a member and there were a couple of occasions that I got told I know should know better. I listened and understood. THEY don't care. [14:26] I admire your fervor [14:27] bazhang: it's blueberry flavored [14:27] oh fervor heh [14:27] not flavor [14:27] :P [15:00] @login [15:00] The operation succeeded. [15:00] @btlogin [15:06] greetings. [15:06] * h00k reads backlog [15:09] morning h00k [15:09] IdleOne: morning [15:12] I've been extremely busy: Finals, moving, etc [15:12] yeah, I saw you moved yesterday [15:13] how did all that go? [15:13] * IdleOne use to do moving for a living :( man I hated it [15:14] Meh, all of my stuff is in my car, I'm staying with Britt until she has to move back on Thursday. [15:14] so, I'm livin' from a bag. it's not bad. [15:35] look is pushin' it this morning. [15:48] clone4ubuntu ban evading in #ubuntu? [15:48] I don't see a ban for him, was there supposed to be one? [15:49] Match: *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users by tsimpson in #ubuntu on Apr 06 2010 02:56:04 (ID: 24604) [15:49] errr maybe not [15:49] :) [15:49] :) [16:07] look apologized in a /query for his behavior earlier [16:07] for anyone who was following that [16:07] in #u-o [16:11] yeah, until next time [16:11] to be fair we did give him a couple of weeks of "look it's look" highlights [16:13] He understands joking about trolling is not acceptable === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [16:38] Fun. [18:05] did I just get banned from -ot? [18:05] nm [18:06] window detached lol [18:25] In #ubuntu-offtopic, LjL said: !no gps is Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, Gosmore, Roadnav (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary) [18:25] !gps [18:25] Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary) [18:25] !no gps is Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, Gosmore, Roadnav (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary) [18:25] I'll remember that Pici [18:41] some interesting names on there [19:22] !away > zYc|off [20:28] smoothopertor is making fun of the channel, he knows what he's doing, he's in ##linux [20:39] hello apw [20:46] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !pacman is (°< ········· [20:56] apw: are you here? [20:57] apw: please idle in #ubuntu-irc rather than here [23:21] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [23:36] it appears I can't banforward to here [23:37] you should be able to [23:42] Oh, looks like I just did it wrong