| CIA-6 | [trunk] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100518232805-9xx0752ev5ty4wa2 * debian/ (changelog control) Add build-depend on cmake since kdelibs5-dev no longer depends on it | 00:28 |
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| CIA-6 | [kubuntu-firefox-installer] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100518233255-7i71f8069v17fat1 * debian/ (changelog control rules) (log message trimmed) | 00:32 |
| CIA-6 | * Add build-depend on cmake since kdelibs5-dev no longer depends on it * Switch | 00:32 |
| CIA-6 | to source format 3.0 (quilt): - Remove quilt build-depend - Remove quilt dh | 00:32 |
| * debfx loves packages where parts of debian/ is in the orig tarball | 00:39 | |
| JontheEchidna | whoa, debfx has been doing a bunch of stuff that I had to scroll down to see :D | 00:40 |
| JontheEchidna | large wiki page is large | 00:41 |
| CIA-6 | [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100518234448-3k03l8bmob0y130y * debian/ (changelog control) Add explicit build-depend on cmake since kdelibs5-dev no longer does | 00:44 |
| debfx | indeed it is ;) | 00:46 |
| debfx | doing some package cleanup on the way | 00:46 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, same here. It's a very good excuse | 00:46 |
| debfx | oh virtualbox 3.2.0 has been released, even more work to do ^^ | 01:01 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Getting scons to build may require sacrifice of one's first born. You probably want to make sure there's someone with kids involved in your project. | 01:01 |
| shtylman | oh my | 01:01 |
| shtylman | well... I might be able to arrange for that | 01:02 |
| shtylman | now that I know what to look for | 01:02 |
| ScottK | debfx: in the KDE3 days, bulletproof X worked in Kubuntu, it just never got ported. | 01:12 |
| debfx | ScottK: did it require big code changes? | 01:16 |
| ScottK | I don't recall, but I don't think so. | 01:17 |
| ScottK | Mostly it needs something non-Gnome to pop up the dialogue box instead of Xenity (or whatever it is) and then KDM needs to grow the ability to make X restart. | 01:17 |
| JontheEchidna | debfx: oops, didn't see you had taken userconfig.I just uploaded that | 01:25 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: that's ok, I only started building it | 01:26 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: I guess you don't remember why the patch in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kftpgrabber/0.8.99~svn1044538-2ubuntu1 was necessary? | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I think there was a point last cycle where libx11-dev wasn't being pulled in with the rest of the stack like it normally would | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | if it builds now I would see no point in not syncing it if debian has something newer | 01:49 |
| debfx | I wish someone would fix requestsync | 01:51 |
| JontheEchidna | it's broken? | 01:55 |
| debfx | it's broken when you use the --lp switch which files the bug automatically | 01:56 |
| debfx | not really broken but very outdated | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | aah | 01:56 |
| debfx | the audex debian package now has 4 open ftbfs bugs :D | 02:10 |
| ScottK | debfx: The email interface for requestsync files bugs too. | 02:41 |
| valorie | audex crashes immediately for me | 02:43 |
| valorie | and I get no bt | 02:43 |
| valorie | one of these days I'll run it in gdb | 02:43 |
| debfx | ScottK: by email? then I'd have to set it up with my mail login | 02:44 |
| ScottK | I don't think it needs any setting up. | 02:45 |
| * ScottK doesn't know since he's never used the LP one. | 02:45 | |
| debfx | I just copy'n'paste from the requestsync output, that's fine until it gets fixed | 02:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | Anyone have any job openings that I can work from home? | 02:48 |
| ScottK | Getting out of the Navy? | 02:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah... BCA failure | 02:58 |
| jjesse-netbook | test | 03:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | test | 03:02 |
| jjesse-netbook | hrmm | 03:03 |
| jjesse-netbook | quit | 03:04 |
| jjesse-netbook | quit | 03:04 |
| jjesse-netbook | exit | 03:04 |
| shtylman | shutdown | 03:04 |
| shtylman | :) | 03:05 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: I wasn't an airdale. What's BCA failure? | 03:06 |
| ScottK | That and I've been out over 15 years. | 03:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | Body Fat Content. | 03:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm too fat | 03:08 |
| shtylman | we still love you | 03:08 |
| nixternal | typical hacker | 03:08 |
| nixternal | ;p | 03:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL 69 Inches and 225lbs... Im not THAT fat | 03:09 |
| nixternal | if (toFat || eats(wheatGrass)) { youMightBeA.hacker(True); } | 03:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | ROFL | 03:10 |
| ScottK | For jobs from home, http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/ is one place to start. | 03:22 |
| nixternal | just don't bomb the interviews like i do, and i must say, i am rather good at bombing interviews lately...maybe i can make a job out of that :D | 03:24 |
| valorie | maybe you should have some fake interviews with friends? | 03:27 |
| nixternal | i am usually really good at interviewing..the past 2 weeks I have just been out of it for some reason | 03:29 |
| nixternal | usually, fake interviews turn into all nighters at a bar :D | 03:29 |
| valorie | lol | 03:31 |
| valorie | that's a good end to any interview! | 03:31 |
| nixternal | that it is | 03:32 |
| nixternal | i mean, i even had shitty interviews with people i have known and worked with for years..it made no sense | 03:32 |
| valorie | wrong phase of the moon | 03:33 |
| valorie | or your astrological planets were mis-aligned | 03:33 |
| valorie | bad biorhythms | 03:33 |
| nixternal | D) All of the above | 03:33 |
| debfx | ok, I'm out | 03:33 |
| debfx | i'll leave the plasma widgets for somebody else ;) | 03:34 |
| nixternal | well you better go get some more of whatever it is you are out of | 03:34 |
| nixternal | k, gonna go watch the hawks game | 03:34 |
| debfx | out of sleep ... | 03:35 |
| valorie | sweet dreams, debfx | 03:36 |
| debfx | valorie: thanks :) | 03:37 |
| SandGorgon | hi, I want to create a flavor of KDE without Nepomuk/Strigi/Akonadi (and all its related apps). I also want to eliminate the concept of Desktop Activities. Can both of these be done, or is it too finely interleaved with the rest of KDE ? | 07:04 |
| apachelogger | SandGorgon: well, you can run kde without nepomuk, but for some things its presence is expected and so either functionallity gets lost or a lot of debug messages get thrown | 08:33 |
| apachelogger | as for akonaid, it can (technically) be removed, but I think that you wont have no addressbooks anymore | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | like not at all | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | and in the long run without akonadi access to any pim data will get lost | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | that of course only is valid if you use kdepim ... as of now akonadi does not get used outside kdepim | 08:35 |
| apachelogger | shine \o/ | 09:34 |
| CIA-6 | [workspace] sitter * 1128409 * trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/generic/scriptengines/google_gadgets/CMakeLists.txt Make the google gadgets script engine build outside of kdebase, this makes it possible to fetch it individually and build indepent from workspace (necessary for Kubuntu) | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | LOOOOOK! | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | omg | 09:39 |
| * apachelogger is crying | 09:39 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: tears of joys or sadness? | 10:07 |
| jussi | so I had a realisation the other day, our very own ScottK http://castrojo.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/scottk.jpg bears a startling resemblence to the master hacker himself, Linus Torvalds.... http://www.proyectopqmc.com/blogs/skins/hitchhikers/img/linus_torvalds.jpg | 10:09 |
| jussi | :D | 10:09 |
| debfx | apachelogger: could you add cmake to the build-dependencies of kde-l10n-* (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDECMakeBuildDependTransition)? | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | jussi: joy I suppose | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | debfx: do we need a new version too? | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | !info kde-l10-de maverick | 10:15 |
| ubottu | Package kde-l10-de does not exist in maverick | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | !info kde-l10n-de maverick | 10:15 |
| ubottu | kde-l10n-de (source: kde-l10n-de): German (de) localization for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu6 (maverick), package size 15184 kB, installed size 36328 kB | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | debfx: suppose that ought to be bumped to 4.4.3? | 10:15 |
| CIA-6 | [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100519091859-ecuaytxdacmephy5 * debian/ (changelog control rules) Add cmake as build dep as per https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDECMakeBuildDependTransition | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | no clue if that is gonna finish before I have to leave for randa ^^ | 10:19 |
| jussi | Does anyone know if there is a ppa for the new nm plasmoid? daily ppa even? | 10:21 |
| Riddell | no daily one, kubuntu-ppa/experimental had tonio's snapshots from before the release | 10:22 |
| Riddell | and of course we have plasma-widget-networkmanagement packages in lucid | 10:22 |
| Riddell | you still need to enable the kded module though | 10:22 |
| jussi | Riddell: right, I was hoping that someone was packaging it daily as sebas has just released some new improvements | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets_4.4.2.orig.tar.gz created; move it to the right destination to build the package | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 11:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yay! | 11:20 |
| * Tm_T moved to a new home | 11:22 | |
| shadeslayer | hehe.. i just created a conkyrc... well it was a bit of a copy paste from sites : http://paste.ubuntu.com/436069/ | 11:24 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: and probably one with internet 10 times faster than the rest of the world :) | 11:28 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: nope, normal 5/2 adsl connection (slowest option what local ISP offers these days) | 11:30 |
| Mamarok | \o/ slowest you get? what is the fastest a plain user can gt in Finland? | 11:36 |
| Mamarok | get* | 11:36 |
| jussi | Mamarok: 200/100 | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: MBps? | 11:37 |
| jussi | yup | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | zomg | 11:37 |
| * Mamarok ponders moving to Finland | 11:37 | |
| shadeslayer | ^^ same here :P | 11:38 |
| jussi | or maybe it was 200/200... Ill have to check... | 11:38 |
| Mamarok | but too many moskitos in summer | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | fastest here is 16 MBps | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | wait... thats mbps :P | 11:38 |
| jussi | MInd, that was not here, was in helsinki...m Out here in the boondocks we only get 24/2... | 11:38 |
| Mamarok | but then again, one can flee in a sauna from those... | 11:38 |
| jussi | Mamarok: true | 11:39 |
| Mamarok | but is spending the summer in a sauna a real alternative? | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: is | 11:40 |
| Mamarok | is there internet in the sauna? | 11:40 |
| * Mamarok wouldn't be astonished if yes | 11:40 | |
| jussi | no... | 11:41 |
| Tm_T | wifi? wimax? 3g? no I haven't pulled eth to sauna | 11:41 |
| jussi | definately not | 11:41 |
| * Tm_T hides | 11:41 | |
| jussi | Sauna is a place of peace and relaxation | 11:41 |
| jussi | no internet... | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | and interwebz | 11:41 |
| Mamarok | jussi: true | 11:41 |
| Tm_T | jussi: indeed, it's not very finnish to bring any distruption to sauna | 11:42 |
| jussi | As I was taught on arrival, act in the sauna as you would in the church. | 11:43 |
| Mamarok | I bet the Russians do :) | 11:43 |
| Tm_T | jussi: ye | 11:43 |
| Tm_T | jussi: it's ok to play with your phone in church but not in sauna | 11:44 |
| jussi | Tm_T: depends which church I suppose | 11:44 |
| Riddell | you go naked to church? | 11:44 |
| jussi | Riddell: LOL... not quite | 11:45 |
| Tm_T | not typically | 11:45 |
| jussi | I know you cant read finnish, but Im guessing you guys can make this out: http://www.welho.fi/yksityisille/laajakaista/laajakaistaliittymat | 11:45 |
| jussi | I was slightly wrong though | 11:46 |
| jussi | its 200/10 from welho | 11:46 |
| jussi | I think sonera has a faster upload, but I cant get to their speed stuff right now | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: google translate + Chromium :P | 11:48 |
| * Mamarok has 10/1 for about the same price range as Finland | 11:48 | |
| jussi | :D | 11:48 |
| Mamarok | but 10/1 is the maximum I can get here, for now, although everything is on glas fiber already so they can speed up anytime | 11:48 |
| Mamarok | they already doubled the speed since last year, so I am confident :) | 11:49 |
| Tm_T | well, you can get 100/100 connections too, it's just different technology | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | 55 euros... thats 3500 rupees in india :P | 11:49 |
| Mamarok | yeah, I dont get why cable needs to be async | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: same here :) | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | i get 512 kbps now :P | 11:50 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: for how much/month? | 11:50 |
| * jussi is in the boondocks, so has to pay more... 24/2=50¤ | 11:50 | |
| Mamarok | your € sign doesn't show | 11:50 |
| Mamarok | does mine? | 11:50 |
| jussi | yes | 11:50 |
| Mamarok | yeah, Konversation :) | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: 15 usd | 11:50 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: quite expensive | 11:51 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: yeah i know :( | 11:51 |
| jussi | Mamarok: I have something screwed up with my locale settings though, something about installing with finnish keyboard and in english sets something funny up... not really sure | 11:51 |
| * jussi doesnt understand all that stuff really well | 11:51 | |
| Tm_T | jussi: I have finnish keyboard but all languages in english | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: http://airtel.in/wps/wcm/connect/airtel.in/airtel.in/home/foryou/broadband+and+fixed+line/broadband/tariffs/ | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: the area is Haryana .... | 11:52 |
| jussi | oh yeah, and what is it with download limits... I mean who still uses them? o.O | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: hehe.. broadband is expensive in india,people dont download much | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: what they usually do is go to the market and buy pirated CD's for 10-15 INR | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | well 65pc of the people.. the rest 35 pc buy them... piracy went down by 2pc this year :P | 11:54 |
| howlymowly | hi guys.. short question: is there a specific reason to make the kubuntu-feedback survey a from LTS version a plasma widget??? its somewhat intricate to put a widet on the desktop just for a survey ^^ | 11:55 |
| Riddell | howlymowly: it gives us the option of showing it by default in the pre-releases | 11:56 |
| Riddell | although it probably needs to be made smaller by default for that to happen | 11:56 |
| howlymowly | ahh.. kk thats why... | 11:56 |
| Riddell | and we still need to get nixternal to give us the results from release | 11:56 |
| Riddell | hint hint :) | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i think theres a wiki page about the resulrs | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | *results | 11:57 |
| Riddell | oh? I didn't see that | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | lemme pull that up | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Lucid/Feedback/Beta2 | 12:00 |
| Riddell | that's beta | 12:00 |
| Riddell | final is the interesting one now | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: oh.. | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | jussi: why no p0rn in the sauna? | 12:22 |
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| jussi | apachelogger: no pr0n in the sauna, its just not the right place for it. | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | my oh my, what a boring place that must be | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | time for sauna 2.0 | 12:23 |
| jussi | apachelogger: no, you miss the point of it... | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | with ajax and builtin leaks \o/ | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | jussi: in 5 years time my toaster will be able to do p0rn! | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | that is if ipv6 gets established by then | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | otherwise my toaster will probably not get an ip, but that is another story | 12:24 |
| jussi | apachelogger: Im sure it will... but still... sauna isnt place for pr0n... | 12:24 |
| * jussi wonders why we are having this discussion | 12:24 | |
| apachelogger | that is an oldfashioned pov | 12:25 |
| jussi | oh and apachelogger, how is my memenu going? :D | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | no memenu for you! | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | it is broken by design | 12:25 |
| jussi | heh | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | needs inspection meeting | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | oh hold on | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | they already implemented it | 12:25 |
| jussi | lol | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | better no inspection meeting, or they have to redo it | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 12:25 |
| * apachelogger goes back outside, into the sun, because it is so horrible cold within the house :( | 12:26 | |
| jussi | heh | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: Name change request submitted. just fo you | 12:49 |
| ScottK | jussi: You aren't the first to make that comment (IIRC somone said the same in comments about photos published from UDS Intrepid (in Prague). | 12:49 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: \o/ | 12:49 |
| Nightrose | *hug* | 12:49 |
| jussi | ScottK: heh | 12:49 |
| jussi | ScottK: it is a rather striking likeness though | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide | 12:51 |
| ghostcube | https://launchpad.net/~sssup/+archive/sssup-ppa anyone tested this ? | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: flash right? | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/lightspark-open-source-flash-player.html | 13:07 |
| ghostcube | yes flash | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | html5 ftw | 13:09 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/what-its-like-at-uds-video.html makes me want to apply for the next UDS | 13:14 |
| ScottK | Just keep in mind that the bits of the video where they are in sessions talking about stuff is pretty much all of the daytime. | 13:17 |
| ScottK | It's a bit under represented in the video, IMO. | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | well i love talks as well :P | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | maybe ill apply in a few years time :P | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | or ill be close by when the next one happens xD | 13:19 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: what needs updating in debootstrap? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: turns out it already supports maverick so nothing needs updating | 13:29 |
| txwikinger | Ah cool | 13:30 |
| agateau | anyone here using pinentry-qt4 with gpg-agent? | 14:22 |
| agateau | it shows up and immediatly disappear for me :/ | 14:22 |
| Riddell | it's magic voodoo for me, just works (mostly) | 14:23 |
| agateau | Riddell: almost same here, except for the "works" part :( | 14:24 |
| agateau | Riddell: do you know some voodoo sorcerer who could help me? | 14:24 |
| Riddell | #kdepim would be worth a shot | 14:25 |
| Riddell | or is it #kontact | 14:25 |
| agateau | They are gpg experts? | 14:26 |
| agateau | my question is not really kde oriented | 14:26 |
| agateau | I am trying to avoid typing my gpg passphrase twice each time I run debuild | 14:26 |
| shtylman | agateau: I tried running kde trunk... I think I got it running except for the monochrome icons... what magic do you need for those? just making sure XDG dirs are setup correctly? | 14:26 |
| agateau | shtylman: don't know, it worked for me, but maybe not all applications have been monochrome'ed | 14:27 |
| agateau | shtylman: better ask notmart | 14:27 |
| Riddell | agateau: they maintain pinentry-qt4 | 14:27 |
| shtylman | agateau: how are launching your kde session? did you install into /usr/local or someplace else? | 14:27 |
| agateau | Riddell: oh ok, they have some gpg mana then :) | 14:28 |
| agateau | shtylman: I install in $HOME/opt/kde4 | 14:28 |
| agateau | shtylman: and use a .xsession to set up the vars and call $HOME/opt/kde4/bin/startkde | 14:28 |
| shtylman | I see | 14:28 |
| agateau | shtylman: then to start trunk from kdm I select the "default" session | 14:28 |
| agateau | shtylman: to start the Kubuntu one I select "kde4" | 14:29 |
| shtylman | mind sending me your xsession file or pastebinning it? | 14:29 |
| agateau | sure | 14:29 |
| agateau | shtylman: http://pastebin.com/K4cMfVXU | 14:30 |
| agateau | shtylman: but then you want the content of KDE4VARS_TRUNK :) | 14:30 |
| agateau | http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/tmp/KDE4VARS_TRUNK | 14:31 |
| agateau | http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/tmp/KDE4VARS_COMMON | 14:31 |
| agateau | shtylman: ^ | 14:31 |
| ScottK | agateau: Does your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf have "use-agent" uncommented? | 14:43 |
| agateau | ScottK: it does | 14:43 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: Next BugHug day for Ubuntu is update manager.. shall we tag on and do a Bug Hug day for something special? | 14:47 |
| maco | agateau: hmm this is problematic. | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: imo we should have them too... we can do one for some specific app and target loads of bug for that app | 14:55 |
| maco | see use-agent is in the skeleton gpg.conf file | 14:55 |
| ScottK | maco: It's not problematic. use-agent is what he wants. | 14:55 |
| txwikinger | yep.. I can organise one if someone gives me the scope | 14:55 |
| ScottK | Perhaps I misunderstand you though. | 14:55 |
| maco | ScottK: he said its already uncommented | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: although i can only participate next month :P | 14:56 |
| maco | if it's not there, my experience with kmail is that signing gpg stuff, you'll get the box to stay there, but itll hang on password input and eventuall (1-2min later?) reject the passphrase | 14:56 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: How about update-manager-kde | 14:56 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: We probably crash and burn without you ;) | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: hehehe :P | 14:57 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: ok.. I will do that | 14:57 |
| ScottK | maco: That's about right. | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: #kubuntu-bugs is pretty silent most of the time :P | 14:57 |
| ScottK | agateau: We still have pinentry-qt in the archive. You might try that and see if it's better. If it's not, it points at gpg-agent. | 14:58 |
| txwikinger | Well. that can be changed | 14:58 |
| maco | ScottK: but if he's got use-agent and its still broken then the agent itself is broken, yeah? | 14:58 |
| agateau | ScottK: pinentry-qt is the qt3 version? | 14:58 |
| ScottK | agateau: It is. | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: oh and i joined the bugsquad :) | 14:58 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: cool | 14:59 |
| ScottK | maco: Yes, but gpg-agent uses pinentry-qt4, so it's an open question which component is the problem. | 14:59 |
| maco | agateau: lucid or mav? | 14:59 |
| agateau | maco: lucid | 14:59 |
| txwikinger | Is it normal that the gpg and the ssh agent are different instances? | 15:00 |
| maco | agateau: is it helpful for me to say "works for me"? :P | 15:00 |
| agateau | maco: it gives me hope | 15:01 |
| agateau | :) | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | well.. at least they seem to use different files in tmp | 15:01 |
| ScottK | agateau: Works for me too. | 15:01 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: Yes. | 15:01 |
| ScottK | gpg-agent can act as a ssh-agent, but it's not the same program. | 15:01 |
| agateau | ScottK: now I am full of hope | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | how do I add a key to the gpg-agent ? | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | and does ForwardAgent for ssh takes account of that too? | 15:02 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: man gpg-agent | 15:02 |
| ScottK | agateau: I looked and didn't see any settings that could be relevant. | 15:02 |
| ScottK | What does your gpg-agent.conf say? | 15:03 |
| agateau | ScottK: http://pastebin.com/EGkMafcM | 15:05 |
| ScottK | agateau: I get paste expired. | 15:07 |
| agateau | oh | 15:07 |
| shtylman | agateau: thanks :) | 15:08 |
| agateau | even pastebin is against me! | 15:08 |
| ScottK | Feel free to dump it in a PM if you want. | 15:08 |
| agateau | ScottK: ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf | 15:08 |
| agateau | ScottK: http://pastebin.com/mja7YmPi | 15:08 |
| * agateau has trouble with clipboards | 15:08 | |
| ScottK | THE SITE IS IN READ-ONLY MODE AS WE ARE CURRENTLY MOVING HOSTER, SOME PASTES MIGHT BE MISSING FOR A FEW HOURS! | 15:08 |
| ScottK | Just paste it in PM. | 15:09 |
| txwikinger | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ | 15:10 |
| agateau | oh | 15:11 |
| agateau | ScottK: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/436168/ | 15:14 |
| agateau | txwikinger: thanks | 15:14 |
| * ScottK tries again | 15:14 | |
| shadeslayer | pastebin works here :P | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: the professional paster uses paste.ubuntu.com :P | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 15:18 |
| * txwikinger does not have a pasteria | 15:18 | |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: use pastebinit :P | 15:18 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: Which package is update-manager-kde | 15:20 |
| ScottK | agateau: Mine's a bit different. Yours looks like an old howto I've seen. Not sure if it will help, but http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/436170/ | 15:20 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: I can't keep track. | 15:20 |
| * agateau tries | 15:20 | |
| * txwikinger can't either :) | 15:20 | |
| ScottK | You'll have to restart gpg-agent after changing the config file. | 15:21 |
| agateau | ScottK: still fails, but much more verbose | 15:23 |
| * agateau wonders if it's an i18n issue | 15:23 | |
| agateau | it's not :/ | 15:23 |
| agateau | mmmm | 15:24 |
| agateau | "command get_passphrase failed: End of file" | 15:24 |
| * agateau googles that | 15:24 | |
| ScottK | That sounds like pinentry and gpg-agent connected to different sockets. | 15:24 |
| agateau | oh | 15:31 |
| agateau | they seem to be able to communicate a bit though | 15:32 |
| agateau | gpg-agent passes a few OPTION commands | 15:32 |
| agateau | but fails when it tries to pass GET_PASSPHRASE | 15:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Now that you've taken away my kivio, what am I to use to open my .flw files? | 15:32 |
| Riddell | I fear I'm only a messenger for upstream in these matters ScottK | 15:34 |
| ScottK | Sigh. | 15:34 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: there are probably KDE bugs in update-manager we should look at | 15:34 |
| txwikinger | yeah.. I just saw it is part of update-manager | 15:35 |
| txwikinger | I will have a look | 15:35 |
| agateau | well... using pinentry-gtk2 works :/ | 15:47 |
| agateau | this will do for now | 15:47 |
| shtylman | aww | 15:51 |
| * ScottK will not use programs with unique data formats for work again. | 15:51 | |
| * ScottK will not use programs with unique data formats for work again. | 15:51 | |
| * ScottK will not use programs with unique data formats for work again. | 15:51 | |
| ScottK | (imagine about 100 of those) | 15:51 |
| shtylman | haha | 15:51 |
| ScottK | Karmic kivio packages work on Lucid, but that's not a long term solution. | 15:53 |
| * ScottK looks at http://slangkamp.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/the-state-of-kivio/ and sniffles a bit. | 15:57 | |
| ScottK | debfx could probablyl finish it up in ~ a week if only he were motivated. | 15:57 |
| CIA-6 | [workspace] sitter * 1128532 * trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/generic/scriptengines/google_gadgets/CMakeLists.txt Don't look for KDE twice, Hydrogen doesn't like it... | 16:02 |
| debfx | I doubt that since I've never even used koffice ^^ | 16:03 |
| ScottK | OK. Two weeks. | 16:05 |
| ScottK | You've done miracles before. | 16:06 |
| * apachelogger is off for sprint travelling | 16:06 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: In umbrello is one of these fancy UML things ~ equivalent to what I would call a flow chart? | 16:10 |
| shtylman | ScottK: no | 16:13 |
| shtylman | UML is for describing objects and relationships...etc | 16:14 |
| * ScottK knows what it is, just never uses it enough to remember anything else. | 16:14 | |
| ScottK | Looks like dia it is. | 16:14 |
| shtylman | heh | 16:14 |
| Riddell | indeed no flow chart in UML | 16:19 |
| txwikinger | If you really wanted to.. you maybe would be able to make use a status diagram for a flow chart | 16:25 |
| txwikinger | or use cases | 16:25 |
| * txwikinger looks in his umbrello diagrams | 16:26 | |
| txwikinger | ScottK: I used status diagram to do flow chart like stuff in umbrello | 16:27 |
| txwikinger | sorry state diagram | 16:27 |
| === Dyrcona is now known as Repair | ||
| === Repair is now known as Repair_Shelf | ||
| === Repair_Shelf is now known as Dyrcona | ||
| ScottK | Thanks. | 16:44 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | anyone around? i tried to compile ktorrent rc1 and i got this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/436222/ | 17:25 |
| Riddell | c++ breakage? | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: eh? | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | you mean to say im using a old version of gcc ? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | I mean it's c++ and something is broken | 17:28 |
| Riddell | probably can't say more without looking at the sources | 17:28 |
| Riddell | maybe pastebin the videowidget.h file | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | yeah im looking at that file : | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | hold on | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436231/ | 17:30 |
| Riddell | what's in Phonon/VideoWidget ? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: um.. nothing.. theres no such folder :P | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | oh i think i need the latest phonon as well... | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | but cmake doesnt give any errors about that... | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436238/ | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: thats the output of ls -laR | 17:36 |
| Riddell | /usr/include/qt4/phonon/videowidget.h is the file and looks fine | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i just commented line 71 to see what happens :P | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | errors... | 17:40 |
| shtylman | shadeslayer: can you run make with VERBOSE=1 | 17:44 |
| shtylman | to see what all the include paths are | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | hold on | 17:47 |
| Dyrcona | Is there a Phonon namespace? | 17:49 |
| Riddell | yes | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | im on a call right now :P | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/436252/ | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: Riddell Dyrcona ^^ | 17:54 |
| shtylman | looks right to me | 17:56 |
| === michaelk is now known as Guest26555 | ||
| shadeslayer | shtylman: so how do i compile it :P | 18:03 |
| shtylman | where did you get the source from? | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: ktorrent.org | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | its the RC1 | 18:04 |
| shtylman | k | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | im following this : http://ktorrent.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: oh btw youll need to compile libktorrent too.. just remember that :P | 18:08 |
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| shadeslayer | has anyone used virt-manager? | 18:21 |
| shtylman | ok | 18:21 |
| shtylman | so the problem is that the videowidget.h header file in the ktorrent source tree | 18:22 |
| shtylman | has the same name as the videowidget.h header file in the phonon tree | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | ahh.. | 18:22 |
| shtylman | and the Phono/VideoWidget header includes "videowidget.h" | 18:22 |
| shtylman | unfortunately, the local file takes precedence (probly cause of include paths) | 18:22 |
| shtylman | and thus the real phonon one cannot be included | 18:22 |
| shtylman | the real fix here is for phonon to fix their damn includes | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:23 |
| shtylman | which are wrong imho | 18:23 |
| shtylman | but for you to compile locally for now | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | change the name? | 18:23 |
| shtylman | just change #include <Phonon/videowidget> to #include <phonon/videowidget.h> | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: in videowidget.h or .cpp? | 18:24 |
| shtylman | .h | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | building | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | failed :P | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: im pastebining | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436283/ | 18:27 |
| shtylman | shadeslayer: thats cause you didn't do what I told you :p | 18:28 |
| shtylman | #include <phonon/videowidget.h> | 18:28 |
| shtylman | notice my case | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | ok.. ill just paste that :) | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: uhh.. it just stopped... | 18:32 |
| shtylman | more errors? | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | no.. | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | just stopped :P | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/436289/ | 18:33 |
| shtylman | thats some other problem on your end | 18:33 |
| shtylman | maybe try again | 18:33 |
| shtylman | just run make again and see if it finishes... it should | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | i removed the whole build dir | 18:34 |
| Dyrcona | that last paste looks like it worked. | 18:34 |
| Dyrcona | oh. it has more to go. nm | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | its upto 85pc | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | done! | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: thanks | 18:38 |
| shtylman | shadeslayer: np | 18:38 |
| shtylman | Riddell: tell the phonon people to fix their damn includes... | 18:38 |
| Riddell | shtylman: actually the problem is on the qt side for that as far as I can tell, so it'll be fixed when I package phonon standalone (this evening with any luck) | 18:39 |
| shtylman | Riddell: cool | 18:40 |
| shtylman | good stuff | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | gtg.. bye :) | 18:44 |
| CIA-6 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100519174442-egisiqjhms7s0acc * debian/ (7 files) (log message trimmed) | 18:44 |
| CIA-6 | * Merge with Debian Unstable, remaining change: - Drop kttsd from metapackage | 18:44 |
| CIA-6 | since all backends are in universe * Bump replaces version on kttsd for kmouth | 18:44 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: o/ | 18:53 |
| lex79 | hi JontheEchidna :) vacation finished :P | 18:54 |
| Sput | apachelogger: still around? | 18:54 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: Hope you had a nice vacation. :) | 18:54 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: Could I bug you for package upload statistics for lucid? | 18:55 |
| lex79 | yeah, I visited my girlfriend in Hamburg :) | 18:55 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: do you want the statistics for lucid? | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: yes, please :) | 18:56 |
| lex79 | give me some minutes... | 18:56 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: Uploaders http://pastebin.org/254903 | 19:06 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: top sponsors http://pastebin.org/254905 | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | woohoo! Broke the top ten this time :D | 19:06 |
| lex79 | yeah :) | 19:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell once again reigns supreme | 19:08 |
| JontheEchidna | all hail kde-l10n | 19:08 |
| ScottK | I guess I was a slacker this time. | 19:15 |
| debfx | if you need something to sponsor: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/clamz ;D | 19:19 |
| ScottK | I didn't say I planned to change that. | 19:20 |
| ScottK | You should better get it in Debian anyway. | 19:21 |
| debfx | there's some dispute about whether it should go into main or contrib | 19:23 |
| debfx | someone already uploaded a package but it got rejected because an ftp admin thought it should go into contrib | 19:24 |
| ScottK | Meh. | 19:25 |
| ScottK | That's silly. | 19:25 |
| ScottK | On that basis all web browsers should be in contrib too. | 19:26 |
| debfx | which I don't understand and he apparently didn't explain why | 19:26 |
| ScottK | It's because it's purpose is to download non-free stuff somehow. | 19:26 |
| debfx | yeah but how does this violate the dfsg? | 19:27 |
| debfx | and youtube-dl is in main ... | 19:28 |
| neversfelde | can a universe package depend on libxine1-ffmpeg? | 19:29 |
| debfx | sure, it's in main | 19:31 |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: depend or recommend? | 19:31 |
| Tm_T | why I was thinking it being in universe ): | 19:32 |
| neversfelde | Tm_T: recommended packages are installed by default or am I wrong? So probably a recommend would be enough | 19:33 |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: ye, but it won't prevent from installing in case of conflict | 19:35 |
| neversfelde | so recommending libxine1-ffmpeg is ok? | 19:35 |
| Tm_T | if the package isn't depending from it, sure | 19:36 |
| neversfelde | ok, thank you | 19:36 |
| Tm_T | depending and is usable without it | 19:36 |
| Tm_T | I'd say, dunno what's the official policy | 19:37 |
| neversfelde | the package is not usable without it | 19:37 |
| neversfelde | Amarok suggests libxine1-ffmpeg | 19:39 |
| Tm_T | amarok doesn't need xine | 19:41 |
| Tm_T | phonon xine backend needs it, but there's other backends | 19:41 |
| Tm_T | so suggest sounds right imo (: | 19:42 |
| neversfelde | yes, minitube can use gstreamer backend, too | 19:43 |
| Tm_T | is it usable with it? | 19:44 |
| neversfelde | yes | 19:44 |
| Tm_T | roger | 19:44 |
| Nightrose | ScottK: xmind can do good looking flow charts | 19:46 |
| === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr-afk | ||
| seele | jjesse: ew, just got spam from you | 19:47 |
| neversfelde | Tm_T: thanks for your help, I will make it suggest libxine1-ffmpeg and probably gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, if that is needed to make it work with gstreamer backend | 19:49 |
| * Nightrose too | 19:49 | |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: glad if I was of any use | 19:50 |
| ScottK | Nightrose: Thanks. | 19:54 |
| jjesse | sorry if you got spam from my gmail account | 20:03 |
| Riddell | jjesse: did your gmail account get a virus? | 20:06 |
| jjesse | must have | 20:06 |
| jjesse | trying to figure it out | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse: seems to be going around. nightrose reported that jussi had sent some spam too, iirc | 20:08 |
| * Sput is happy to not be using gmail | 20:09 | |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: nope i also got it from jjesse | 20:10 |
| jjesse | argh | 20:13 |
| jjesse | i think it was sent to -devel list? | 20:13 |
| Nightrose | it went to kde-core-devel but got stuck in moderation there and i discarted it | 20:14 |
| Nightrose | and my person address | 20:14 |
| Nightrose | (not that i mind much - happens...) | 20:14 |
| Nightrose | but you should probably find out what happened | 20:14 |
| jjesse | yeah i don't know what is going on | 20:16 |
| jjesse | trying to figure out | 20:17 |
| === bladernr-afk is now known as bladernr_ | ||
| neversfelde | jjesse-netbook: there is also a spam entry from your account in the report of bug 460352 | 21:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 460352 in Ubuntu Translations "Please update kubuntu-docs translation templates in Launchpad" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460352 | 21:17 |
| * ScottK feels left out. | 21:21 | |
| Sput | ScottK: why? | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Sput: No spam from jjesse-netbook. | 21:31 |
| Sput | ScottK: ah. yeah, that's sad | 21:31 |
| Sput | I'm sure I could subscribe you to some spammers, though | 21:31 |
| ScottK | I'm sure, but it wouldn't be the same. | 21:31 |
| ryanakca | I can forward jjesse's spam to you if you want :P | 21:32 |
| ScottK | Thank you, no, nothing can change the fact that he left me out. | 21:33 |
| jjesse-netbook | yeah my gmail was sending out spam | 21:35 |
| jjesse-netbook | dont know why or what happened | 21:35 |
| Riddell | were you using windows? have you visited china recently? | 21:35 |
| jjesse-netbook | work machine is a windows7 machine | 21:36 |
| Riddell | oh Qt, why do you take so long to compile? | 22:05 |
| shtylman | haha | 22:06 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: it's only 4+ hours | 22:10 |
| Riddell | even though I've disabled webkit compiling there's a separate tar of webkit's javascript engine which needs to be compiled anyway | 22:10 |
| Riddell | I think I might be faster to fly to oslo, use their teambuilder to compile it in 5 minutes then fly back | 22:11 |
| shtylman | haha | 22:11 |
| shtylman | Riddell: you need a more powerful computer :) | 22:11 |
| Riddell | one that isn't held together by duct tape you mean? | 22:12 |
| shtylman | yes | 22:12 |
| Riddell | I feel the need for a new PPA | 23:00 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-ppa/qt-backports | 23:00 |
| Riddell | any objections? | 23:00 |
| ScottK | What would go in there? | 23:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: qt 4.7, qtwebkit, phonon, qt-creator 2.0 beta for lucid | 23:04 |
| ScottK | Won't we want to put KDE 4.5 beta on top of all that once we get it? | 23:05 |
| ScottK | I guess I don't understand why that can't go in the existin beta PPA? | 23:05 |
| ScottK | existin/existing | 23:07 |
| Riddell | maybe, but 4.7 is still in beta and we've had issues in the past where people haven't wanted to upgrade qt when they upgrade kde | 23:07 |
| ScottK | Right, but we've also had problems when people run KDE on a different Qt than it was built for. | 23:09 |
| lex79 | iirc qt 4.6 broken KDE 4.3 in Lucid, and we had a lot of bug reports when we uploaded Qt into backports ppa | 23:26 |
| lex79 | don't repeat that error is a good idea ;) | 23:27 |
| lex79 | maybe it was in experimental ppa, I don't remember exactly | 23:29 |
| Riddell | which is why I want to keep them separate | 23:34 |
| Riddell | I'm only (planning on) doing 4.7 backports because ivanka said she wanted to try out qt declarative stuff | 23:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think agateau already has 4.7 in his PPA (with his patches) | 23:43 |
| rgreening | Riddell, apachelogger, JontheEchidna: halp. Amarok refuses to play CD | 23:43 |
| rgreening | This is supposed to work since 2.2.2 afdaik. but I cant seem to get it to work on either dell mini with external DVD drive | 23:43 |
| rgreening | ScottK: do you use amarok? and can you test playing an audio cd ? | 23:43 |
| ScottK | If you really feel an additionaly PPA is needed, don't let me block. I just have a general feeling we have 'enough' | 23:44 |
| ScottK | rgreening: No and just heading out the door anyway. | 23:46 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: could you please ack bug #582616 and bug #582609 | 23:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 582616 in kover (Ubuntu) "Sync kover 1:4-7 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582616 | 23:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 582609 in kftpgrabber (Ubuntu) "Sync kftpgrabber 0.8.99~svn1044538-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582609 | 23:48 |
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