[00:41] <Buuntu> anyone else have trouble with the nvidia drivers in 10.04?  images are blurry and I get an error message on boot up, any ideas?
[00:42] <Buuntu> something about an error probing smb2
[00:50] <kwjr> fan
[01:10] <PD187> pfft get a real name Guest75925!
[01:39] <mikie> Upgraded to 10,4; now sound is largely missing; any suggestions?
[04:49] <nishanth> does anyone know how i can fix this.... during boot this msg pops up ....(EE) kernel modesetting driver ,refusing to load
[05:00] <duanedesign> hello nishanth
[05:01] <nishanth> hello duanedesign
[05:01] <nishanth> any idea of how to solve the problem i mentioned
[05:01] <nishanth> ?
[05:03] <duanedesign> nishanth: what kernel do you have?  uname -a
[05:04] <nishanth> Linux nishanth-laptop 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:28:05 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:05] <duanedesign> do you have anything in your Xorg.conf
[05:07] <nishanth> duanedesign : wat is that?
[05:07] <duanedesign> the command:  gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      you can paste bin it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <nishanth> http://pastebin.com/hmiT0z2Z
[05:09] <nishanth> duanedesign : http://pastebin.com/hmiT0z2Z
[05:10] <ddecator> blank? o.o
[05:11] <ddecator> "Unknown paste ID"
[05:11] <ddecator> oh, site is being worked on, maybe that's why
[05:12] <duanedesign> nishanth: what do you get from the command.   lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA
[05:12] <duanedesign> ddecator: you cant see the pastebins?
[05:12] <ddecator> duanedesign: nope
[05:12] <duanedesign> ddecator: strange.
[05:13] <duanedesign> i am not having issues seeing them :P
[05:13] <nishanth> duanedesign : 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:13] <nishanth> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[05:13] <nishanth> 	Kernel modules: i915
[05:13] <nishanth> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[05:17] <nishanth> duanedesign : any ideas?
[05:17] <Severity1> heya duanedesign
[05:19] <duanedesign> nishanth: ok
[05:19] <duanedesign> nishanth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/447181
[05:20] <duanedesign> not a very recent report though. I am looking if there is a newer one
[05:23] <nishanth> duanedesign in the report it say intel...for mine it says vesa....and is there a fix mentioned for this problem?
[05:25] <duanedesign> nishanth: are there any drivers listed under System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[05:26] <nishanth> duanedesign , none
[05:27] <duanedesign> Intel
[05:27] <nishanth> no
[05:28] <nishanth> there is no intel driver mentioned in it
[05:34] <nishanth> duanedesign , u thr?
[05:36] <nishanth> helloooooooooooo someone here who can help?
[05:38] <duanedesign> nishanth: i am looking.
[05:40] <duanedesign> nishanth: your using intel driver. Your xorg.conf is set up for vesa
[05:40] <nishanth> duanedesign how do i confirm if i am using intel driver?
[05:43] <duanedesign> lspci -k|grep
[05:43] <duanedesign>                      -A3 VGA
[05:44] <duanedesign> lspci -k|grep  -A3 VGA
[05:56] <duanedesign> nishanth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8862521&postcount=9
[05:59] <nishanth> duanedesign ; so wat am i supposed to do....like i mean wat command shoud i type in?
[05:59] <duanedesign> nishanth: ok
[06:00] <nishanth> i kind of dont understand much of wat is mentioned
[06:00] <duanedesign> sure
[06:01] <duanedesign> you know during boot you see the grub  menu
[06:01] <duanedesign> the nenu where you choose the kernel
[06:01] <nishanth> my migration from windows to lucid was very recent
[06:02] <nishanth> wat is grub....actually i dont have to choose anything during boot
[06:02] <That_Wiki_Guy> nishanth: Well welcome to the tux
[06:02] <nishanth> tux?
[06:03] <That_Wiki_Guy> A penguin is the Linux mascot
[06:03] <That_Wiki_Guy> Hence Tux
[06:03] <nishanth> i see
[06:03] <That_Wiki_Guy> Hey uRock
[06:03] <duanedesign> nishanth: press esc during boot
[06:03] <Severity1> does he/she need to go to recovery mode?
[06:04] <nishanth> duanedesign ; i think it will take me to bootmenu if i do that
[06:04] <That_Wiki_Guy> duanedesign: What issue is nishanth having?
[06:04] <nishanth> i mean BIOS
[06:05] <nishanth> That_Wiki_Guy , during boot this msg pops up ....(EE) kernel modesetting driver ,refusing to load
[06:06] <nishanth> duanedesign , i think it takes me to BIOS if i press esc during boot
[06:06] <duanedesign> starcraftman: (EE) No kernel modesetting driver message during booy
[06:06] <duanedesign> boot*
[06:06] <kermiac> duanedesign: grub menu is left shift in lucid ;)
[06:07] <duanedesign> also here is a nice wiki page for setting modesettings https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[06:10] <duanedesign> nishanth: so looking at that wiki page to adjust the mode settings the command would be.   echo options i915 modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf
[06:10] <duanedesign> for example
[06:12] <nishanth> duanedesign , too many jargans i am kind of lost actually....wat am i supposed to do exactly
[06:12] <uRock> hello That_Wiki_Guy
[06:13] <That_Wiki_Guy> Hello Phishing_Pharmer
[06:14] <Phishing_Pharmer> See what happens when they make me read geeking security management text books, I get a geek name that reminds me of my ex-OSes worries.
[06:15] <That_Wiki_Guy> Lol
[06:16] <duanedesign> nishanth: open a Terminal and run the command.   echo options i915 modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf
[06:18] <nishanth> duanedesign ; i think i did something like this long back and i ended up having to reinstall my OS
[06:19] <duanedesign> nishanth: what issues are you having?
[06:21] <nishanth> well this was before when i had lucid and i was having a different problem.... my system would freeze randomly and i found something like this online and did it but it so happened that after i was not able to log in at all and finally ended up having to reinstall OS
[06:23] <nishanth> i think i set i915 modset=0 in grub.cfg
[06:24] <duanedesign> nishanth: yeah make sure you can change it back without a gui in case x does not start
[06:24] <nishanth> duanedesign : i mean the last time i had lucid
[06:25] <nishanth> so how can i do something like that?
[06:25] <duanedesign> so if you used the command  is: echo
[06:25] <duanedesign>                      options i915 modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf
[06:25] <duanedesign> ugh.
[06:25] <duanedesign> modeset=1 would be the opposite of that
[06:27] <duanedesign> nishanth: or delete the file. 'rm /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf'
[06:28] <nishanth> ok here we go ...wish me luck
[06:28] <duanedesign> good luck
[06:29] <nishanth> ha h ah permission denied
[06:30] <duanedesign> nishanth: put sudo before it.
[06:30] <nishanth> tried that too
[06:31] <nishanth> do i do something like chmod?
[06:32] <nishanth> oh btw how do i get a terminal kind of login after boot, instead of the normal GUI?
[06:33] <duanedesign> nishanth: ctrl + alt f1
[06:33] <nishanth> ok
[08:19] <abhjth> hello .. i am using ubuntu 10.04 64bit. i have 512 mb ram. when i use my system for long the ram usage incereases and  it takes more time to respond.. i use only the minimal visual effects..
[08:21] <ddecator> hm, it might be a program with a memory leak. when it gets slow, have you ever run 'top' in a terminal?
[08:24] <abhjth> no
[08:26] <ddecator> give that a try. it tells you what's running, and how much of the CPU and Memory each process is using :)
[08:26] <ddecator> if something has a memory leak, you can find out what it is
[08:26] <abhjth> let me try it...
[08:30] <la-ligna-rose> could be chromium
[08:31] <ddecator> yah, chromium has been having memory leaks on and off...
[08:33] <la-ligna-rose> and some java based apps as VUZE
[08:33] <la-ligna-rose> that is sun java
[08:33] <ddecator> and flash has been a cpu hog :\
[08:33] <la-ligna-rose> yep
[08:34] <la-ligna-rose> ddecator, did you ever tried gnash instead of flash?
[08:35] <ddecator> la-ligna-rose: nah, i've heard less than exciting things about the performance, and i run into bugs filed against firefox because of its performance
[08:36] <la-ligna-rose> oh, we lost abhjth...
[08:36] <ddecator> oh, haha, i still have quits hidden...
[08:37] <la-ligna-rose> ツ
[09:36] <tdn> ibuclaw: Thanks.
[09:46] <tati> how do u add a new printer? i have an hp officejet j3680
[09:50] <tati> helloo...............................
[09:59] <kermiac> hi tati :)
[10:01] <kermiac> I reccomend installing hplip-gui
[10:01] <tati> hello
[10:01] <tati> what is that?
[10:01]  * kermiac fails at spelling
[10:01] <kermiac> that is the gui app for configuring hp printers
[10:01] <kermiac> I find that is the easiest way to install & configure hp printers
[10:03] <kermiac> tati: to get more info on that app you can run "apt-cache show hplip-gui" (without the quotes) in a terminal window
[10:03] <tati> tell me exactly what to write in the terminal window
[10:04] <kermiac> tati: to install it, run "sudo apt-get install hplip-gui" or install "HPLIP Toolbox" in the Software Centre if you are more comfortable using that
[10:04] <kermiac> tati: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:04] <tati> 8.04
[10:05] <kermiac> ok, I don't think that version has the software center. run "sudo apt-get install hplip-gui" (without the quotes) in a terminal window
[10:07] <kermiac> hmm... I'm not sure that it is actually in 8.04 repo's either :(
[10:07] <tati> how do i get to the terminal window
[10:08] <kermiac> Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[10:08] <kermiac> ok, don't worry - it is in 8.04 repo. Sorry about that :)
[10:09] <tati> thanks
[10:09] <kermiac> tati: no probs
[10:09] <tati> it didnt work
[10:09] <kermiac> tati: what did it say?
[10:10] <tati> bash: run: command not found
[10:10] <tati> i typed run sudo apt-get install hplip-gui
[10:10] <kermiac> tati: ok, please don't type "run"
[10:10] <kermiac> sudo apt-get install hplip-gui
[10:11] <tati> ok
[10:11] <kermiac> is all you need
[10:12] <tati> thaks its running now
[10:12] <tati> haven't been on irc in a while
[10:13] <tati> does it take a long time to install
[10:14] <kermiac> no probs tati. it shouldn't take too long
[10:15] <tati> how will i know when it's done?
[10:17] <kermiac> the terminal window will stop & will return to yourname@computername:~$    with a blinking cursor
[10:17] <kermiac> eg, for me on this computer it is   "kermiac@yoda:~$"
[10:19] <kermiac> tati: has it finished installing?
[10:19] <tati> i have a blinking cursor now...what do i do?
[10:19] <kermiac> ok, run the following command in the terminal window
[10:20] <kermiac> sudo hp-setup
[10:20] <kermiac> This page has a lot of information that will help    -->    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[10:21] <tati> thank u for that info
[10:21] <kermiac> tati: no probs :)
[10:21] <kermiac> tati: is it running the setup procedure now?
[10:22] <tati> it is
[10:22] <tati> but in the set up window
[10:22] <kermiac> tati: excellent :)
[10:22] <tati> none of the printer models matches mine
[10:23] <tati> the closest one is the officejet j5700
[10:23] <tati> my model is the hp officejet 3680
[10:25] <tati> j3680
[10:26] <kermiac> tati: was the printer plugged in when you ran hp-setup?
[10:27] <tati> yes
[10:28] <tati> it was detected but the ppd file name doesn't match the model name
[10:31] <kermiac> tati: please try using this ppd
[10:31] <kermiac> tati: http://openprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.cgi?driver=hpijs&printer=HP-OfficeJet_J3600&show=0
[10:31] <kermiac> tati: I'm *very* sorry, I have to go for around half an hour or so.
[10:31] <tati> ok
[10:32] <kermiac> tati: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne explains how to manually use a downloaded ppd
[10:33] <kermiac> tati: sorry I've got to run
[11:03] <kermiac> hi tati, sorry about that is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne the link you need?
[11:04] <tati> no the other one
[11:04] <tati> for the ppd file name
[11:06] <kermiac> tati: http://openprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.cgi?driver=hpijs&printer=HP-OfficeJet_J3600&show=0
[11:07] <tati> thanks i'll try that
[11:24] <kermiac> tati: please goto http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/downloads.html
[11:25] <kermiac> then click on "download hplip"
[11:26] <tati> what do i open it with
[11:27] <kermiac> you run it in the terminal. where did you save the file ?
[11:29] <tati> how do i open it in the terminal
[11:29] <tati> wheni i saved it it went directly to my listof downloads
[11:29] <kermiac> I will explain :) can you please let me know where you saved the file you downloaded ?
[11:30] <tati> i wasn't able to specify where
[11:30] <kermiac> ok, right-click the "downloads list" & choose "open file". This will open the directory where the file is saved so we can locate it :)
[11:32] <tati> it was saved on the desktop
[11:32] <kermiac> excellent :)
[11:33] <kermiac> tati: have you got a terminal window open?
[11:33] <tati> just a sec
[11:33] <kermiac> :)
[11:34] <tati> i did
[11:34] <kermiac> ok, in the terminal window type "cd Desktop" (without the quotes) & press enter
[11:34] <tati> k
[11:34] <ferque> hey
[11:35] <kermiac> tati: now type "ls" without the quotes & press enter
[11:36] <kermiac> tati: is "hplip-3.10.5.run" shown in the terminal output?
[11:36] <kermiac> tati: after running the "ls" command. "ls" just lists the files in the current directory
[11:37] <tati> yes but something happened
[11:37] <kermiac> yes?
[11:37] <tati> i have to redo it
[11:37] <kermiac> tati: what do you have to re-do?
[11:38] <tati> those commands
[11:38] <tati> im fine now
[11:38] <kermiac> ok, tati :)
[11:39] <kermiac> tati: so "hplip-3.10.5.run" was listed when you ran the ls command, right?
[11:39] <tati> yes
[11:39] <kermiac> tati: excellent :)
[11:39] <tati> whats next
[11:39] <kermiac> tati: now please type "sh hplip-3.10.5.run" (without the quotes) & press enter
[11:40] <kermiac> tati: that should bring up something like http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/images/install_2.png
[11:41] <kermiac> tati: these instructions should help you   --> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[11:43] <tati> ok
[11:54] <kermiac> tati: how is the install going?
[12:02] <tati> its going well
[12:03] <tati> a test page is printingnow
[12:06] <kermiac> tati: excellent, that is very good to hear :)
[12:13] <tati> i've never felt so relieved to hear my printer printing =)
[12:15] <kermiac> tati: awesome! I'm glad we got it working :)
[12:17] <iofu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-HVxmUELQ
[15:31] <TakiTam_> Hi
[15:31] <TakiTam_> I want change resolution
[15:31] <TakiTam_> I have not /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[15:31] <TakiTam_> I can use only terminal
[15:32] <TakiTam_> You can help me ?
[15:37] <mohi1> TakiTam_, what version?? lucid?
[15:39] <TakiTam_> 9.10 karmic koala
[15:39] <TakiTam_> when I update system it is make it problem
[15:40] <TakiTam_> I not change resolution
[15:41] <TakiTam_> But when I update some packages, desktop creazy
[15:41] <TakiTam_> *crazy
[15:42] <TakiTam_> I have old video card
[15:42] <mohi1> you dont have /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[15:42] <mohi1> TakiTam_^
[15:42] <TakiTam_> "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:42] <TakiTam_> cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory"
[15:43] <TakiTam_> before i write some this "cd /"
[15:43] <mohi1> TakiTam_, you looked manually in etc folder??
[15:45] <TakiTam_> yes
[15:45] <mohi1> its not there??
[15:46] <TakiTam_> I have X11 folder , but I have not /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:46] <TakiTam_> * but I have not xorg.conf
[15:47] <mohi1> i am seeing the same problem in our forum too
[15:47] <mohi1> duanedesign, nigelb ping.
[15:48] <mohi1> TakiTam_'s problem looks same as  http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9287491 #163
[15:49] <mohi1> phillw, can you help?
[15:49] <TakiTam_> Meaby you right, thank , I learn this link
[15:50] <phillw> mohi1: help with what?
[15:50] <mohi1> i dont know whether its a bug or not.
[15:50] <mohi1> phillw, TakiTam_ needs help to change his resolution. but he cant find /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in his machine
[15:51] <phillw> i recall there is a way to 'make' an xorg.conf file, but I'm not too sure about it. I'll go have a dig
[15:52] <TakiTam_> mohil - you right , I have this(http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9287491) problem
[15:52] <ProfessorWC> hey guys, I am new to Ubuntu, and I am being asked to script Ubuntu installs over our network such that a user can choose 32/64 bit, as well as a series of specific versions of certain applications (gcc, java, postgresql, etc).  Could someone point me in the right direction?
[15:52] <phillw> http://www.osguides.net/operation-systems/217-how-to-create-xorgconf-in-ubuntu-910.html will create one, then I guess you can edit it, but I've never messed with them
[15:53] <mohi1> TakiTam_, try the above link ^^
[15:53] <TakiTam_> thx I see this your link
[15:54] <TakiTam_> I learn this
[15:54] <mohi1> :
[16:00] <ProfessorWC> any help for someone looking for installation script help?
[16:01] <mohi1> ProfessorWC, some experts are not here. just wait for a while please :)
[16:01] <phillw> ProfessorWC: have you looked at the wiki entry for network installing ?
[16:01] <TakiTam_> thank for help
[16:01] <mohi1> lol
[16:01] <mohi1> TakiTam_, :)
[16:01] <mohi1> phillw, we are late and Professor is really fast :D
[16:57] <frank1_> if i want to add windows to my linux computer do i use gparted to create a partition for it and than select that partition when running the install?
[17:01] <ikt> yes
[17:02] <frank1_> simple as that?
[17:04] <phillw> frank1_: you'll have to put grub back on - that's covered here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[17:05] <phillw> apart from that, yes it is that simple. The win installation will not see / touch your ubuntu area provided you don't format the disk !!
[17:05] <phillw> of use fdisk
[17:05] <frank1_> maybe i dont follow. why would i need to put grub back on if im just putting windows on a seperate partition
[17:06] <frank1_> i fugured that would have no impact at all on my linux
[17:07] <phillw> windows installation will over-write your MBR, that's why you need to put grub back on. It's why it is advised to put win on 1st, then ubuntu.
[17:08] <phillw> but, that's the only reason we say to put win on 1st.
[17:08] <phillw> as you can see from the thread, it's quite  painless to do :-)
[17:09] <frank1_> yea doesent look that bad
[17:09] <frank1_> two quick questions
[17:09] <phillw> yup?
[17:09] <frank1_> i assume that in order to reinstall bootloader, after i install windows, i boot from my linux cd
[17:10] <frank1_> and any changes i make in terminal while running off my live cd will take effect
[17:10] <phillw> correct, your linux installation is the line that ends 83 when you do the fdisk
[17:11] <phillw> yes, as you are going to mount the hard drive in order to re-install grub (sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/sda5)
[17:11] <frank1_> ok and my second question
[17:12] <phillw> yup?
[17:13] <frank1_> i dont see anything that ends in 83. im pretty sure its /dev/sda1.  what does the /media part mean
[17:14] <frank1_> nevermind the id is 83
[17:14] <phillw> the area /media is where the system mounts things like usb devices
[17:15] <phillw> good.. you had me worried then :-)
[17:16] <phillw> an easy way when you make the partition for win is to make it FAT32, then win will ask to format it for you to ntfs - for some reason i've found win to be happier doing it that way, as opposed to formatting as ntfs - but that's just what i have found.
[17:18] <frank1_> ok so ill use gparted now to make a fat32 partition
[17:18] <phillw> just make sure the win partiton is either sda2, sda3 or sda4 (quite likely to be sda3 if your swap area is on sda5)
[17:18] <phillw> win doesn't "do" extended partitions ;-)
[17:19] <frank1_> huh?
[17:20] <frank1_> sda1 is my large linux.. sda2 is extended and sda5 is swap
[17:20] <phillw> so, the one you're going make is sda3 = FAT
[17:20] <frank1_> when i create a partition is it just going to become sda3
[17:20] <phillw> yes, unless you specified other wise
[17:21] <phillw> i take it you are going to shrink sda1 ?
[17:21] <frank1_> yes
[17:21] <frank1_> only by about 40 bg
[17:21] <frank1_> gb
[17:21] <phillw> yeah, that'll be fine - it should make it sda3 for you :-)
[17:21] <phillw> 40GB is plenty for win.
[17:22] <frank1_> in gparted do i need to unmount the sda1 inorder to resize
[17:22] <phillw> boot with cd in to do partitioning - you can not resize a mounted file system (i.e. the one you're using now)
[17:23] <frank1_> ok so i need to run off the cd to partition
[17:23] <frank1_> for some reason i thought that gparted could let you resize hd space while running
[17:24] <frank1_> i had to write this down but just so that im safe can i show you my commands to make sure ive got it right
[17:24] <phillw> nope, it must be unmounted. I have a gparted cd that just does re-sizing / slicing etc. you can get one from http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/  just download and burn the iso
[17:25] <frank1_> uhh no cd's.
[17:25] <frank1_> can i resize while running from my live cd
[17:25] <phillw> yes you can
[17:25] <frank1_> ok
[17:25] <phillw> it is part of the livecd suite of programms
[17:25] <frank1_> cool
[17:25] <phillw> Under System
[17:26] <frank1_> so after i install windows and i reboot from the cd ill go into terminal and type
[17:26] <phillw> s.o. will say which it is (I'm running lubuntu, so my system is a little different)
[17:26] <frank1_> sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[17:26] <phillw> yes
[17:26] <frank1_> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[17:27] <phillw> yes
[17:27] <frank1_> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda1 /dev/sda1
[17:28] <phillw> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda1 /dev/sda   (without the 1 at the end)
[17:28] <frank1_> hmm ok why no 1
[17:29] <phillw> you are telling grub that ubuntu lives on sda1 (--root-directory=/media/sda1) and that you want grub to install itself onto /dev/sda in the MBR area, hence no 1 at the end.
[17:31] <frank1_> gottcha
[17:31] <frank1_> thanks man
[17:31] <phillw> there is only 1 MBR per disk, so a partition number is not required
[17:31] <phillw> you're welcome, relax - it's not as scary as it may seem :-)
[17:32] <phillw> there is, however, something I should tell you ...
[17:33] <phillw> Partitioning disk is not without a slight risk, I'd advise you to backup any important files (documents, photo's etc) before you partition. If there is a power cut part way through it can really mess up a hard disk (or if the battery ran out on the laptop etc)
[17:37] <frank1_> not worried. all my media is on a second hd. thats why im doing this, so i can have itunes for my pod and sync my berry
[17:37] <phillw> cool, better to warn people though :-)
[17:37] <frank1_> yea thanks
[17:37] <frank1_> now if you could only help me find my xp cd lol
[17:37] <phillw> i thought 10.04 supported ipods?
[17:38] <phillw> lol, i keep an iso of XP on my system for just such occurances, i can never find mine either :-)
[17:38] <frank1_> to a point. rhythmbox works but doesent find my album art
[17:39] <phillw> oh, and don't forget to get ALL the service packs for XP
[17:39] <frank1_> and amarok would be great but it snycs slower than hell and orphans files like wow
[17:39] <phillw> If you want, i know where there is an iso of the Service Pack3 for XP. Shame you have no CD's :-\
[17:40] <frank1_> the other night amarok took 8 hours to sync 30gb's
[17:40] <frank1_> im stubborn and now ill be pissed if i dont find that cd
[17:40] <frank1_> by tomorrow if it doesent pop up ill be all over that iso burn
[17:40] <phillw> that's a fair amount of music :-D, if ~3GB = 2 days worth, that's three weeks of music played contiuously
[17:41] <frank1_> thats nothing
[17:41] <frank1_> i had to get a 120gb ipod cuz my 80 was packed
[17:41] <phillw> lol
[17:41] <frank1_> and the 30ish is just the heavy stuff i listne to at the gym
[17:42] <frank1_> after the 30 had transfered amarok put about 80gb of orphaned crap on there
[17:42] <frank1_> had to wipe the ipod and resync with thyrhmbox
[17:42] <frank1_> took less than an hour
[17:42] <phillw> ahh well, people will buy propriatory systems :P
[17:43] <frank1_> well with the amount of storage im accustomed to having i really dont have to many choices
[17:43] <phillw> i have a bog-standard mp3 player - does all i want (plays music) ;-)
[17:43] <frank1_> ipod or zune
[17:44] <frank1_> zune hd died in month 13 right after warrenty expired
[17:44] <frank1_> and ipod was $50 off craigslist
[17:44] <frank1_> ill be dammed if apple ever gets a cent from me
[17:45] <phillw> lol
[17:46] <frank1_> the zune was nice but their service sucked. it died twice and they sent me new ones without extending the warrenty
[17:46] <frank1_> total failure about 14 days after warrenty went up and their response was to buy a new one
[18:38] <ProfessorWC> Hey guys, I have a couple of questions about install scripting, anyone around?
[18:43] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: Please just ask the questions; people will answer if they want to.
[18:45] <ProfessorWC> heh, sure thing.  What I have is a Ubuntu server with the 32 and 64 bit images.  I need Users to be able to choose to install either version, and then to be able to install specific versions of certain applications, such as GCC, java, postgresql, etc.
[18:46] <ProfessorWC> I have never actually used ubuntu before installing it on my macbook yesterday when this was asked of me.
[18:48] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: Um, there are a lot of details missing.  Perhaps it would help if you could describe the problem you need to solve, rather than how to go about solving it using this particular situation.
[18:50] <ProfessorWC> we need to remotely install ubuntu and specific versions of a few apps.
[18:53] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: How remotely?  Do you have access to all the machines that will have Ubuntu installed on them?  Can you get someone to babysit the installation process at each of these remote locations?
[18:53] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: There are, still, many omitted details that are important.  Is this task of a sensitive nature?  Because it will take me much longer to ask you many questions.
[18:54] <ProfessorWC> not terribly sensitive no
[18:54] <ProfessorWC> But I misspoke
[18:54] <ProfessorWC> it isn't a remote installation so much as we need users to be able to install ubuntu off of our server, over the network.
[18:55] <ProfessorWC> packaged with, as mentioned, some specific versions of a few applications (gcc,java,subversion,postgreSQL and Xenomai)
[18:55] <Guest90678> Can someone help me with getting gcc-4.2 and g++-4.2 installed on a 10.04 image?
[18:56] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: How about the other two questions.
[18:57] <ProfessorWC> Appl6: we will have access to all of the machines that ubuntu will be installed on, and someone should always be there during installation
[18:57] <ProfessorWC> Appl6: They didn't give me any more details than that, to be honest, and being a ubuntu noob, I really didn't know what questions to ask.
[18:58] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: That's OK.  There's an issue here though.
[18:59] <ProfessorWC> Appl6: yeah? and what would that be?
[18:59] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: Sorry, typing...
[18:59] <ProfessorWC> no worries ;) I appreciate any help at all
[19:00] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: In order to begin an installation of any kind, the target computer needs to boot using some installation medium.  They have special images designed for network installations, but those are generally because people don't want to spend the time to manually walk through a million installations.
[19:01] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: It also guarantees that everyone gets the same files and versions, because they get it over the network.
[19:01] <ProfessorWC> Appl6: that is what we are shooting for
[19:01] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: But it doesn't solve the problem that you still need some Ubuntu installation image to boot from, or setup the BIOS to allow booting from the network.
[19:02] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: And if you were to take the image route, then why not just burn a bunch of Ubuntu CDs and let people install them on their own?
[19:02] <ProfessorWC> okay, so we can do it over the network, but we have to have some physical media for the user to boot off of?
[19:03] <ProfessorWC> before they install?
[19:03] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: The two options are: you use a physical installation medium to get things started, or you need every target computer to have a "network boot" option in the BIOS.
[19:03] <ProfessorWC> but it might be a better idea to, for example, just create a package with all of the software we need and the ubuntu installation, and burn a bunch of CD's
[19:04] <ProfessorWC> hmm okay thanks.  I am certain they want to go the network route, which means we need the physical installation medium anyways.  Is there perhaps a website you could point me to?
[19:05] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: I'm not sure you understood.  A physical installation medium is not strictly necessary.  You can boot off the network if your BIOS supports it.
[19:05] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: But you will need to confirm the BIOS support.
[19:06] <ProfessorWC> yeah, we are covering a large variety of computers (we aren't a very well put together company, IT wise)
[19:06] <ProfessorWC> so, that confirmation is going to be time intensive.
[19:07] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: OK, well this means someone is going to have to manually place a CD in the drive of every computer, and get it started.
[19:08] <ProfessorWC> yeah..I figured as much. I will talk to my supervisor and make sure they know that.
[19:08] <ProfessorWC> thanks for the help, Appl6
[19:08] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: If it were me, I'd just give people full blown Ubuntu live CDs and have them finish up the install, then let them download a tarball with whatever packages you want, and write a dpkg script.
[19:08] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: That script would unpack the tarball and automatically install whatever you want.
[19:09] <ProfessorWC> Appl6: I will recommend that to my boss.  Thanks for all the information.
[19:09] <Appl6> ProfessorWC: You're welcome.
[19:17] <Appl6> randerz: Have you tried downloading them and installing them with dpkg?
[21:15] <ubuntu> Hi am chatting via Live CD - where can I turn off requirement to log in? (ie turn on auto login) on my fresh install of Lucid please?
[21:16] <swoody> hello ubuntu :)
[21:16] <phillw> ubuntu, if you log onto your new system, got to Users & Groups in System and you can turn on auto-login there, although some people have reported problems using it
[21:16] <ubuntu> swoody: hi
[21:16] <ddecator> ubuntu: System > Administration > Login Screen
[21:16] <swoody> on the new install, go to System>Administration>Login Screen
[21:17] <ddecator> i win :)
[21:17] <ubuntu> but if I enter this via Lice cd will it remember when i log in on the system underneath?!
[21:17]  * phillw sticks to lubuntu questions in future, y'all have a daft sequence to menus :P
[21:18] <ddecator> no, you have to be logged into the account to change the setting through that menu
[21:18] <swoody> ubuntu: well for this method you need to be logged into the installed version. There's also an option to auto-login when you're going through the installation process (if you haven't installed yet)
[21:18] <ubuntu> yes but i would like to change that requirement - where do i find the file on my hard drive please?
[21:19] <ubuntu> my system was running fine until i tried to log in yeterday
[21:20] <swoody> I'm not positive how to do something like this offhand, let me see if I can scrounge up something
[21:20] <swoody> ubuntu: what issues were/are you encountering?
[21:20] <ubuntu> i enter my password and the system simply asks for my password again - over and over
[21:21] <ubuntu> i would just like to auto login in future if poss
[21:21] <ubuntu> to bypass the password request totally
[21:21] <swoody> is there anything you can think of that you may have changed just before this happened?
[21:22] <swoody> anything related to users, permissions, etc.?
[21:22] <ubuntu> nope!
[21:22] <swoody> any other user accounts on the computer, or just yours?
[21:24] <ubuntu> no just me
[21:25] <ubuntu> any ideas?! very strange!
[21:26] <swoody> ubuntu: looking into it now, sry about the delay :)
[21:26] <phillw> ubuntu you can reset your user password with the live CD by this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[21:26] <ubuntu> ok thanks very much :-)
[21:26] <phillw> once you can log on, you can change it to auto login
[21:27] <ubuntu> yes but i have tried something similar i found elsewhere - no joy :-(
[21:28] <phillw> ubuntu if that doesn't get you logged in, you have more problems than a lost password :-\
[21:28] <ubuntu> i am not sure the password is actually the problem
[21:28] <swoody> ubuntu: when you're on the login screen, try selecting 'Gnome Failsafe' if you still can't get it to log in normally...
[21:28] <ubuntu> no i know my password is correct
[21:28] <phillw> ubuntu so, what does it say when you put it in>
[21:28] <swoody> ubuntu: I've also come across a thread stating someone had to enter their info 5-6 times before they were logged in succsessfully, so this may be a similar situation :/
[21:29] <ubuntu> i enter my password and the screen disappears then reappears asking for my pw again
[21:29] <phillw> I'll leave ubuntu with you, swoody
[21:30] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[21:30] <ubuntu> any ideas swoody?
[21:30] <ubuntu> !
[21:31] <swoody> ubuntu: like I mentioned, I would try selecting 'Gnome Failsafe' at the bottom of the login screen if 'Gnome' doesn't work still...
[21:31] <ubuntu> i have seen i can try to purge and reinstall gdm but i am not sure if this is possible with a lice cd
[21:31] <ubuntu> ok thanks - any other ideas?
[21:32] <swoody> ubuntu: first I would try seeing if you can login without the login window, to do this press Ctrl+F2 when the window shows up, this will display a terminal window where you can login manually, try logging in there, and if it works there we know it's not your user info and it's something with GDM
[21:32] <swoody> ubuntu: to go back to the graphcal window after you try that out, hit Ctrl+F7
[21:35] <ubuntu> ok will try
[21:35] <ubuntu> thanks
[21:35] <swoody> ubuntu: np, stop back and let us know how things go :)
[23:54] <miran> Trying to resolve a known problem with Intel 82852 integrated graphics. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466969&page=2
[23:58] <miran> Computer locks up at seemingly random times forcing a hard reboot.  Have been able to do Alt+Prtscrn+ERISUB to prevent data loss or damage to hard drive.