[10:13] <Jonta> I have a suggestion for Ubiquity
[10:13] <Jonta> Though I am quite impressed by the one found in UNE 10.04, I can see a small, and probably simple chance for improving it
[10:14] <Jonta> When choosing keyboard-layout, there are three options.
[10:14] <Jonta> I was quite intrigued by the "Guess"-option
[10:14] <Jonta> It asks to press any of a handful of characters
[10:15] <Jonta> When pressing, say "+", I am asked if the character "æ" is on my keyboard
[10:15] <Jonta> Here, Ubiquity expects the user to say yes or no
[10:16] <Jonta> My suggestion is to let the user just press this key
[10:17] <Jonta> Because as it is now, one first has to say "yes", and then answer "no" to the question "Is this key (ä) on your keyboard?", and then press "æ"
[11:19] <cjwatson> Jonta: sounds like a useful suggestion to me - could you file a bug about that?  perhaps on the cdebconf-keystep package in Ubuntu, although ev might pop up and say it should be somewhere else
[11:20] <Jonta> cjwatson: Hm, directions on that? Never done this before..
[11:21] <Jonta> Launchpad?
[11:21] <ev> cdebconf-keystep is a good place to start.  It will have to be rewritten for ubiquity as the two components only share the decision tree used by both.
[11:21] <ev> Jonta: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdebconf-keystep/+filebug
[11:21] <Jonta> Thanks
[11:22] <Jonta> What short description to give though..
[11:23] <cjwatson> up to you
[11:23] <cjwatson> I'm sure we'll work it out
[11:25] <Jonta> Found one. Reporting...
[11:43] <ev> wow, screw kvm-autotest.  Sikuli is made of some serious awesome.
[11:44] <ev> not being tied to KVM, it means we can do graphical testing across both KVM and real hardware without any changes.
[11:44] <soren> Not really.
[11:45] <ev> no?
[11:45] <soren> Unless something changed, of course.
[11:45] <soren> How would you hook up Sikuli to the installer?
[11:45] <ev> I'd do lots of black magic in an early_command
[11:46] <soren> Yeah, but Sikuli doesn't know how to look at a virtual framebuffer, as I understand it.
[11:46] <soren> It takes screenshots from an X server.
[11:46] <ev> this would be running it from within the kvm instance
[11:47] <soren> Ah, so you'd use Sikuli to interact with the SDL window from kvm?
[11:49] <ev> ahh, I think I see your point.  We can't use it for server tests.  kvm-autotest is still the best option for that.
[11:51] <soren> Maybe. I hadn't thought of using Sikuli to talk to kvm's SDL window. It'd be an interesting experiment.
[11:51] <soren> ..but for testing gui stuff, Sikuli is very likely the best bet.
[11:52] <ev> Don't get me wrong, I still see lots of value in kvm-autotest :)
[11:53] <soren> Yeah, it's quite nice if you have time to hold its hand. Some sort of computer vision magic like Sikuli would certainly make it less painful to maintain.
[11:54]  * soren adds that experiment to his TODO list
[12:02] <CIA-9> base-installer: cjwatson * r401 ubuntu/ (42 files in 8 dirs): merge from Debian 1.107
[12:39] <CIA-9> base-installer: cjwatson * r402 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.107ubuntu1
[17:25] <pmatulis> for network installs, how do i get to point to installation media available by HTTP?  i'm looking at the pxelinux.cfg/default file