[00:00] <dementor> hy i try to instal plesk b ut i cant i get this >http://nopaste.info/e51ca8a6f1.html
[00:00] <randal> ElementalWarrior, you can even chage the resolution of the boot up manager
[00:00] <dominicdinada> edbain as for reverting to an older linux i am unsure about that
[00:00] <Frantic> can someone tell me if there's a way to make the KDE4 task manager widget pin programs just like a dock? I've been rebooting to windows7 for SC2 recently and I really think the guys at MS got the taskbar right :)
[00:00] <nrodine> ok, I will just wait for a patch...
[00:00] <edbian> airtonix, dominicdinada, careful not to confuse causation and correlation.  I noticed a correlation between instability and up-to-dateness of linux distros.  Debian stable is much more stable then ubuntu 10.04 because ubuntu is based on debian testing ;)  I am using debian stable
[00:00] <nrodine> For reals
[00:00] <randal> Does anyone know how to make the menus transparent in the top panel thz
[00:01] <Jordan_U> ElementalWarrior: You'd have to either install it to the PBR (which is not recommended) or setup ntldr to load grub. If the F12 option you are talking about is in your BIOS I doubt it allows you to specify a partition rather than a drive.
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> I think it does, im not sure
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> I'll check and come back
[00:01] <ElementalWarrior> lol
[00:01] <airtonix> ElementalWarrior, this is correct. bios can only see drives not partitions.
[00:02] <coolbtk> I'm having a problem with 10.04 and my video cards. I have a custom built computer with a ATI Radeon 4870X2, and the integrated card is a Radeon 3300. On Ubuntu 9.10 x64, the 4870X2 worked perfectly. I did a clean install of 10.04 and now the 4870X2 won't work with my TV anymore. What's worse is that while the integrated card works, Ubuntu seems to think that it is an NVidia card. Anyone have any thoughts?
[00:02] <dominicdinada> edbain: ubuntu was based on debain by an older developer :) but ya back to my point how to restart or gain access back... cough in windows you just kill explorer.exe and then run it again... i cant figure out what is cause/controling this problem
[00:02] <edbian> dominicdinada, I'm sorry that linux is not going well for you right now.  I suggest you have patience with it.  It will pay off eventually
[00:02] <Ddorda> where's empathy directory?
[00:02] <edbian> dominicdinada, You can re-start the whole X-server (more server, ends your programs, and you have to log back in) ctrl + sysRq + k
[00:02] <ElementalWarrior> why isnt it recommended to install to pbr?
[00:02] <randal> Does anyone know how to make the menus transparent in the top panel thz
[00:02] <airtonix> Ddorda, in terminal : locate empathy | grep /home
[00:03] <edbian> dominicdinada, otherwise "killall nautilus" and "killall gnome-panel" ought to be pretty close to killing explorer.exe (not identical though!)
[00:03] <dominicdinada> edbain again no i cant this always happens at critical times as now downloading or transfering things
[00:03] <randal> ElementalWarrior,  why cant you use grub?
[00:03] <studentz> randal check this link http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/enable-rgba-transparency-in-ubuntu-910.html
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ElementalWarrior: There is not enough room in the PBR to store code to read from a filesystem, so grub (or any other bootloader) would need to use blocklists, which are unreliable.
[00:03] <edbian> dominicdinada, You're misspelling my name ;)
[00:03] <randal> studentz,  thz
[00:03] <dominicdinada> lol opps
[00:04] <airtonix> !tab | dominicdinada
[00:04] <studentz> randal no problem
[00:04] <edbian> dominicdinada, I'm sorry what do you mean you can't?  What exactly is the problem / what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:04] <Ddorda> airtonix: erm.. didn't find anything really...
[00:04] <ElementalWarrior> while im fine with grub, I just would rather it be using the windows bootloader
[00:04] <ElementalWarrior> brb
[00:04] <dementor> hy i try to instal plesk but i cant i get this >http://nopaste.info/e51ca8a6f1.html
[00:04] <dominicdinada> airtonix ummm thanks for the info it seems as though a side effect of this problem is now i cant tab names
[00:05] <dominicdinada> edbian oh i cant restart for some time... I am trying to recover the other windows from the gnome panel
[00:05] <studentz> ElementalWarrior Windows bootloader assume that they are the only OS n doe not let any other OS install
[00:05] <airtonix> Ddorda, have you launched empathy yet ?
[00:05] <Ddorda> airtonix: yes
[00:06] <airtonix> Ddorda, 1. run gconf-editor 2. navigate : /apps/empathy 3. ??? 4. profit
[00:06] <edbian> dominicdinada, I still don't understand.  I'm sorry.  What do you mean "recover windows from the gnome-panel"  Is the panel frozen?
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: i would just add 'adm' back to the the user2 group for now. i tested it. i really don't know what the 'adm' group is and i removed it from my 'testbaby' user and it made no difference. it had no effect. so you might just want to leave users as part of the 'asm' group until you find out what it is. earlier... that was kind of a typo of mine anyway. i meant 'admin' group
[00:06] <studentz> ElementalWarrior I like Grub but there are a lot of third party ($) software to accomplish multiples OS installation
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: 'asm' = 'adm'
[00:06] <dominicdinada> edbian: well yea it wont let me open the other running or open windows back up... even if i kill the process's they still are stuck on the panel
[00:07] <habanany> hey guys . I having a hard time after I installed windows dual boot after ubuntu. help!!!
[00:07] <BlAck6j73> dementor: is that file in your home dir?
[00:07] <dementor> ies
[00:07] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, yes I understand. but the user is not part of the admin group... I've found a solution, by adding an alias top='top -u user2' into the bashrc, but it's really poor ...
[00:07] <studentz> habanany more inf
[00:07] <edbian> dominicdinada, The panel is frozen and showing applications that aren't running anymore.  Is that correct?  Really the only option then is to re-start the panel.  Those applications are gone.  Does that makes sense?
[00:07] <dominicdinada> if I could take a screen shot i would but i cant even copy to clipboard either :(
[00:07] <Jordan_U> studentz: ElementalWarrior quit to confirm that his BIOS will only allow him to choose between drives.
[00:08] <habanany> I cant' boot ubuntu
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: i hear you. still better than nothing ;-)
[00:08] <airtonix> !details | habanany
[00:08] <BlAck6j73> dementor:  try apt-get install     deb file
[00:08] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | habanany
[00:08] <edbian> dominicdinada, Can you open a terminal?
[00:08] <dominicdinada> edbian: some are not running but some still are
[00:08] <valium> hi all - can anyone confirm if the package in 10.4  'samba4'  is samba version3 and not the beta of Samba v4
[00:08] <habanany> ok thanks
[00:08] <edbian> dominicdinada, Is the panel completely frozen and you can't open a terminal?
[00:08] <dementor> ok  i try
[00:09] <dominicdinada> edbian: yes i can open the terminal but i still can my file operations running will this kill those?
[00:09] <Time`s_Witness> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, i connect to my wireless network, its connected as i see in ubuntu and from my router checking connected hosts, however i have no internet on it. if i try to ping an ip from it i get Destination Host unreachable. How can i solve this please? :X
[00:09] <edbian> dominicdinada, Say that again without the typos.  I don't understand
[00:09] <_blackwater_> valium samba4
 stiil not work
[00:09] <studentz> Jordan_U each HD has its own MBR and Grub, Wiin, MAC OSX and all third party software will replace it
[00:10] <valium> blackwater - its samba4 beta?
[00:10] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, no I don't think it's good enough. In fact I would like to prevent softwares to sniff my computer (poker software do this). And if the software launch a top command, I don't think it will be aliased by the bashrc
[00:10] <BlAck6j73> dementor: do you have nc installed?
[00:10] <BlAck6j73> dementor: do you have mc   installed?    opps
[00:10] <Ddorda> airtonix: didn't find such a thing
[00:10] <dementor> mc ? i am new
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: roger. keep asking your question to the channel, like about every 5 minutes or so. someone will probably know. or, try posting in the ubuntu forums
[00:11] <coolbtk> Hello. I have a custom built computer with a ATI Radeon 4870X2, and the integrated card is a Radeon 3300. On Ubuntu 9.10 x64, the 4870X2 worked perfectly. I did a clean install of 10.04 and now the 4870X2 won't work with my TV anymore. What's worse is that while the integrated card works, Ubuntu seems to think that it is an NVidia card. Anyone have any thoughts?
[00:11] <Fandekasp_> onetinsoldier, ok thank you a lot for your help
[00:12] <_blackwater_> valium samba4 is alpha in the repos
[00:12] <valium> blackwater - so why is it the main samba package in the server 10.4 LTS?
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> Fandekasp_: sure, you're welcome
[00:12] <valium> blackwater - i cant find the samba3 package on any of the 2 servers i just installed
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> anyone know the difference between the 'adm' group and the 'admin' group?
[00:12] <BlAck6j73> dementor: try again   make sure is has       .deb      at the end
[00:13] <Kutakizukari> what do you type to save a nano file?
[00:13] <dementor> ok
[00:13] <_blackwater_> exalt ctrl x and y
[00:13] <edbian> Kutakizukari, Control + X  It should ask you (assuming you made changes)
[00:13] <studentz> katakizukary control X and choose Y
[00:13] <Jordan_U> coolbtk: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci"?
[00:14] <deco> why is it that when i turn on my desktop , it's consuming 840MB of ram so i restart and it's only consuming 180MB of ram now.. i restart again and it's consuming 800MB of ram again
[00:14] <deco> it's not X , x is only consuming 21MB
[00:14] <coolbtk> Jordan_U: sure. give me just a second to run that on that machine
[00:14] <deco> so no bad video driver
 thx theat make the jib
[00:15] <edbian> deco, Use the system monitor and determine exactly what is consuming it
[00:15] <Kutakizukari> thank you
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> Hello. if i make a user and he is not part of the 'admin' group, and i take him out of the 'adm' group, why can he still see all running processes from all users with the following command? --> ps aux
[00:15] <deco> edbian: i did and it's not telling me
[00:15] <BlAck6j73> dementor:  np
[00:15] <deco> edbian: just little processes like 21mb they are not adding up to 800MB
[00:16] <edbian> deco, Does it not list enough things?  What's telling you that it is taking 800mb then?
[00:16] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, process lists are not user protected
[00:16] <deco> edbian: free -m
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> joaopinto: ok, roger. thanks
[00:16] <bastid_raZor> deco: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/    may help understand free
[00:16] <deco> edbian:  and on memory on system mananger
[00:16] <joaopinto> onetinsoldier, which is a reason to be cautious about using passwords on the command line
[00:16] <deco> bastid_raZor: i know how to use free
[00:17] <BlAck6j73> onetinsoldier: other uses may see them   but they cant stop them
[00:17] <deco> bastid_raZor: system monitor shows the same thing
[00:17] <deco> bastid_raZor: don't assume i don't know how to use it
[00:17] <joaopinto> I mean, plain text passwords as parameters
[00:17] <BossDJ> full screen mode using virtual server, wont work, any suggestions
[00:17] <BossDJ> theres a one inch black border around the whole ubuntu window
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> BlAck6j73: ahh, good :-)
[00:18] <edbian> deco, Free shows what is truly free.  Mine says 933 while sys monitor says 344.  The rest is "cached" what the system is keeping around cause it might be useful.  Techincally it is open cause the system will give it up if needed.  It's more complicated than simply "free" and "used" I'm afraid.
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> deco: using 'top' do you see applications using RAM?
[00:18] <BossDJ> virtual pc*
[00:18] <deco> bastid_raZor: yes i see some applications
[00:18] <deco> bastid_raZor: but they don't add up to 800mB of ram
[00:19] <edbian> deco, The linux stack is very good at handling ram!  Sys monitor shows what is being used by currently running applications.  free shows what is truly not being used by anything (not even the os itself)
[00:19] <bastid_raZor> deco:  can you screenshot the output of free -m ?
[00:19] <deco> edbian: this never happens in other distros
[00:19] <deco> bastid_raZor: okay just a sec
[00:20] <hexmare> Is there anyway to have the install files for Ubuntu on a USB drive, Boot from the CD , and then start the Install from USB ( No the system does not support USB boot )
[00:20] <edbian> deco, I'm using debian and the exact same thing is happening
[00:20] <deco> edbian: i mean ram consumption
[00:20] <deco> it's far less
[00:20] <deco> in other distros
[00:20] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know if best buy's netflix-like service will actually support ubuntu/linux/etc?
[00:20] <Lazure> is there a particular reason why 9.10 livecd won't boot past the pulsing ubuntu logo on an old amd athlon XP machine with 512mb RAM, SB Live! sound card, and GeForce 2 video card?
[00:20] <bastid_raZor> linux_is_my_hero: ask bestbuy
[00:21] <Lazure> it just freezes on a black screen past the pulsing logo
[00:21] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero me too waiting for netflix in linux :(
[00:21] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah i asked geek squad they looked at my funny for using linux.
[00:21] <edbian> deco, my system and ubuntu both use "preload" which uses significantly more ram but makes all the apps start faster (in fact it even prioritizes the apps you use the most)
[00:21] <linux_is_my_hero> studentz: i use a virtualbox but i dont like it.
[00:21] <Lazure> edbian > like superfetch in windows 7
[00:21] <edbian> deco, You might wanna try "apt-get remove preload" and see if it helps
[00:21] <edbian> Lazure, Yes
[00:21] <BossDJ> hey alex
[00:22] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: why dont they just make hdd's and fsb's faster?
[00:22] <deco> edbian: i don't have preload
[00:22] <coolbtk> Jordan_U: well, internet on that computer is horrible at best and it's not working at all right now
[00:22] <scq> Hello! I am using Lynx, with separate partition for /home. I was wondering if re installation would affect /home?
[00:22] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero yep you can  and vmware can virtualize video drivers But I want to be native in Linux
[00:22] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, Making a hdd as fast as ram is pretty much impossibly right now but they're trying.
[00:22] <jon23> Not sure what happened
[00:22] <coolbtk> so I will try again later when I can plug that computer in. thanks anyway.
[00:23] <jon23> but ubuntu will not boot
[00:23] <linux_is_my_hero> studentz: yeah i agree id rather it just have linux support, for simplicity stability and speed
[00:23] <bastid_raZor> scq: only if you tell it to use the /home partition
[00:23] <edbian> deco, Then I'm not sure what is in all that cached ram space.
[00:23] <jon23> i suspect it has something to do with messed up packages
[00:23] <deco> edbian: hmmm i wonder why it's just in ubuntu , 10.4 in particuler
[00:23] <jon23> is there any package or system scanner from command line that i can use to i guess debug ubuntu
[00:23] <usuaria> Hola
[00:24] <edbian> deco, I am guessing it's the same feature I'm describing but implemented in different software.
[00:24] <deco> edbian: actually this has only happened in 10.4
[00:24] <deco> hmmm
[00:24] <deco> yeah
[00:24] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian & deco: my first linux machine is having issues.  my wifi logo doesn't show up on my panel, and that's if it boots.  its also having issues with the nvidea drivers.  everything was fine until a week after i upgraded. :-(
[00:24] <scq> bastid_raZor: During installation, what should i choose for /home partition?
[00:24] <deco> edbian: i'm kinda using this PC as a server too so this is really bad :S
[00:24] <nakw> how can iget the kernel source ?
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> usuaria: hello, hola
[00:24] <studentz> linux_is_my_hero I signed an open letter. I do not remember when and where. Now I'm trying 3D in my box with nvidia
[00:25] <bastid_raZor> scq: leave it alone unless you want to use it as home. the only way it will mess things up is you format it or the usernames are the same.
[00:25] <gartral> whats the command to control the auto screen poweroff function?
[00:25] <usuaria> Hola
[00:25] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero, When you get it to boot try adding the "notification area" applet to the panel.  That's where the little network applet hides.
[00:25] <edbian> deco, I'm researching it
[00:26] <linux_is_my_hero> word
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> scq: what i do is while booted to the liveCD i change the username on the /home partition to username.old  and then doing so will not matter and you have all your info on the partition
[00:26] <deco> edbian: bastid_raZor http://imagebin.org/97404
[00:26] <deco> thanks
[00:26] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: word. thanks :-)
[00:26] <sistemas_> 1
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> gartral: not sure for cmmand line, might be gnome-screensaver command. there's also.... gnome-screensaver-command and gnome-screensaver-preferences commands
[00:27] <scq> bastid_raZor: !!Your english is bit confusing..oh so if i want to use my current /home partition to be same and active after re-installation, i should leave the /home partition as it is, right?
[00:28] <greezmunkey> scq: short answer: ys
[00:28] <greezmunkey> yes
[00:28] <gartral> onetinsoldier: it's xset -dkms is what im thinking of.. but i want to force my monitor off from ssh
[00:28] <adante> anybody here ran memtest on a macbookpro before? i'm getting a stack of errors, just wondering if they are false positives as none of the mac diagnostic tools are picking them up
[00:28] <bgupta> Question about sshd. Weems the version in hardy hasn't been updated since 2008. Am I missing something?
[00:28] <scq> bastid_raZor: And why do i need to change username?
[00:28] <SealedWithAKiss> I'd like to upgrade my CPU, however I don't know what CPUs my motherboard will take. I'd like to upgrade to the maximum that my board can handle, I believe that I have a socket 775 Intel CPU at the moment. Can anybody help?
[00:29] <jrib> SealedWithAKiss: try ##hardware
[00:29] <SealedWithAKiss> My BIOS is the newest version.
[00:29] <deco> SealedWithAKiss: this is an ubuntu channel not hardware
[00:29] <SealedWithAKiss> join #hardware
[00:29] <jrib> bgupta: hardy was released in 2008, that makes sense.  What's the issue?
[00:29] <scq> bastid_raZor: And why do i need to change username??
[00:29] <onetinsoldier> gartral: roger. i haven't used the xset command in ages myself
[00:30] <ToothPick> #hardware = invite only
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> scq: if your /home has username scq on it.. then reinstalling and telling the installer to use /home (the seperate partition) with username scq then it will complain about it existing
[00:30] <jrib> !register | ToothPick
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> scq: also if you're upgrading then you don't want the setting for 9.10 in 10.04 as some things have changed
[00:30] <bgupta> THere are a number of vulnerabilities with our version of ssh... and don't see any security updates.. wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything
[00:31] <linux_is_my_hero> sealedwithakiss: google intel 775 socket and see what processors you can get
[00:31] <jrib> bgupta: there are updates in the -security and -updates repository that cherry pick security patches
[00:31] <onetinsoldier> gartral: xset dpms off  ...?
[00:31] <crimsun> bgupta: openssh-server | 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 | hardy-security | amd64, i386
[00:32] <bredtech> Hey, People!  :)
[00:32] <bredtech> Do normal USB Mobile Broadband sticks with with Ubuntu Linux? Like specifically the ones from T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile?
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> gartral: there is... xset dpms force {standby|suspend|off|on}
[00:32] <bgupta> crimsum, where is the cahngelog?
[00:32] <linux_is_my_hero> bredtech: the sprint one does
[00:32] <jrib> bgupta: aptitude changelog openssh-server
[00:32] <crimsun> bgupta: in the binary packages, on Launchpad, and on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:32] <bredtech> The Sprint one just plugs in and works...?
[00:32] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu has bult-in support for said devices, you can try #hardware or the ubuntu website to check for specific models' your considering purchasing
[00:32] <bgupta> so not here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openssh-server
[00:32] <bgupta> ??
[00:33] <linux_is_my_hero> bredtech: ive tried it myself its pretty fast :-)
[00:33] <jrib> bgupta: there too...
[00:33] <bredtech> very cool. thanks.  Any experience with any Mobile Broadband USB devices from T-Mobile or Virgin Mobile?
[00:33] <scq> bastid_raZor: Well, i want to use my current /home partition to be present and usable as /home after installation. So, in this case, i should select /home (the one which i m using) and unmark format option and should not create any new partition for home? Right?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> scq: sounds right to me
[00:34] <michael1982> hey all
[00:34] <linux_is_my_hero> nope. but if they really want you to get their broadband, take your computer in the store and make them prove it works. if they won't i would go to a different store.
[00:34] <michael1982> i need help with how to work deeveedee
[00:34] <scq> bastid_raZor: But i didn't understand about username?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> !hi | michael1982
[00:34] <gartral> ok... bug: xset --help given over ssh wants a monitor specified
[00:34] <bastid_raZor> scq: correct. the existing username matters. if will give you errors if you try to use the same username.
[00:34] <Crash1hd> Ugg I somehow right clicked on the top bar and removed the dropdown to logout and restart? any way to get that back?
[00:35] <jrib> Crash1hd: right click -> add to panel
[00:35] <dabaR> Crash1hd: add the  right thing to the panel(right click
[00:35] <michael1982> ok can i ask a question
[00:35] <bastid_raZor> scq: do you understand what i mean?
[00:35] <jrib> michael1982: that's the only question that you shouldn't ask!
[00:36] <michael1982> lol
[00:36] <scq> bastid_raZor: my current /home partition suppose contain username A and B, and after re installation, suppose i create A, it will give errors and creating D will not?
[00:36] <michael1982> wats better
[00:36] <michael1982> xp or win7
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> michael1982: yes. just ask. ask it all in one line. state you problem in that one line.. what you are trying to do, and how you are trying to do it, and then finally, what happens when you try it
[00:36] <dabaR> you did that on purpose, michael1982
[00:36] <jrib> michael1982: ok, you should ask a question related to ubuntu support...
[00:36] <Crash1hd> jrdnyquist, dabaR either of you know which thing is the right thing to add?
[00:37] <sheerz> I smell a troll...
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> lol.. maybe
[00:37] <scq> bastid_raZor: my current /home partition suppose contain username A and B, and after re installation, suppose i create A, it will give errors and creating D will not?
[00:37] <michael1982> ok'
[00:38] <michael1982> how do i get exe programs to work such as games on ubuntu?
[00:38] <scq> bastid_raZor: there?
[00:38] <jrib> !wine | michael1982
[00:38] <bastid_raZor> scq: username A currently exists on /home. you can not use the username A when doing a reinstall. it will give you errors about username A existing. while in the the liveCD just rename username A to A.backup and install with username A .. afterwards you can copy over things you need back to A from A.backup
[00:38] <mackolin> !Play on Linux
[00:39] <dominicdinada> dang it only about 35 more mins until i can reboot
[00:39] <linux_is_my_hero> michael1982: *.exe is a windows executable. you can get a windows emulator like wine, or use a program called virtualbox that lets you run an os on top of another os (you can virtualbox windows so then u can run your games)
[00:39] <Crash1hd> ok found it :)
[00:40] <dominicdinada> !wine |michael1982
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> scq: yes what you said is correct.. A  and B will be fine D will be created no problem
[00:40] <dominicdinada> For the 2nd time
[00:40] <scq> bastid_raZor: Where are you from? :-)
[00:41] <gartral|droid> xset --help wants a screen too be designated when run from ssh... thats useless
[00:41] <Kutakizukari> How do I execute a .sh file in the terminal?
[00:41] <mackolin>  recommend to install games !PlayonLinux
[00:41] <tehran> Kutakizukari: /bin/bash file.sh
[00:42] <dominicdinada> michael1982: sudo aptitude install wine
[00:42] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: first, you the .sh file needs to have it set as an executable... then ./<file.sh>
[00:42] <thewolf> Is it just me... but my date and time dosn't have the weather even though I have told it to... and specified a place... any help?
[00:42] <mackolin> Kutakizukari    ..    sh 'file.sh'
[00:42] <Kutakizukari> can the file be on my desktop to execute it?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: yes. the desktop is just another folder/directory
[00:43] <Kutakizukari> onetinsoldier, thank you
[00:43] <HardDisk> Ubuntu mentioned on this week's Big Bang Theory Episode :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mzgdQGwY4&NR=1
[00:43] <kahen> I've completely forgotten and I can't seem to find any documentation that says anything. Is relatime and nodiratime part of the default mount options?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: you're welcome. on command line, try...   sh ~/Desktop/<file.sh>
[00:44] <dominicdinada> !mount | kahen
[00:44] <scq> bastid_raZor: Thank you
[00:44] <bastid_raZor> scq: good luck :)
[00:45] <kahen> dominicdinada: yeah, that was *real* useful... that mentions nothing about the default mount options
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[00:45] <Sir_Konrad> how come I can't install XBMC from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:45] <bastid_raZor> !fstab | kahen
[00:45] <Woosta> I need to install both modperl2 and php modules on my box. But libapache2-mod-php5 requires apache-mpm-prefork while modperl2 requires apache-mpm-worker (whiich are mutually exclusive).  Anyone ever installed both? Am I missing something obvious?
[00:45] <Kutakizukari> onetinsoldier, I found out I need the file here /usr/local/sbin/ but it will not let me move it there. How do I get the file there?
[00:46] <scq> bastid_raZor: Hey, do you have your private chat disabled?
[00:46] <kahen> much better. thanks
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> Kutakizukari: sudo mv -v /path/to/<file> /path/to/destination
[00:46] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad... SBMC PPA is Ubuntu Tweak
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> Kumsa: mv = move command
[00:47] <thewolf> *XBMC
[00:47] <bastid_raZor> scq: i prefer to keep things in channel. :b
[00:47] <HardDisk> is it me or is it quiet in here?
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> it's not that quiet
[00:47] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: what? Still can't see it.
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> but i have seen it a lot busier. just give it a few minutes ;-)
[00:48] <Solaris444> Hi guys, anyone here have experience with device mapper? I'm trying to re-add a disk to a degraded array.
[00:49] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: do you have Ubuntu Tweak?
[00:49] <scq> bastid_raZor: Well, i only wanted to say about the english, it can be improved grammatically, else it would sound confusing :)   Anyways, thank you
[00:50] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: no. What's that?
[00:51] <Randall> so you are all flocking back to other distros I knew it you are all fucking sheep
[00:51] <Randall> what I get kicked for saying the truth
[00:51] <tehran> i believe the technical term is sheeple
[00:51] <onetinsoldier> Randall: ofr swearing i think
[00:51] <onetinsoldier> for*
[00:52] <tsimpson> !ot
[00:52] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: it's a tool used to "tweak" ubuntu including having XBMC in it's source center... You might be able to get XBMC without tweak but tweak would be the eaisest route... and it is useful
[00:52] <Typos_King> Woosta:    hehe, I have not anyhow :), on the other hand, I'd think you should be able to install a .deb skipping dependencies :), I believe -prefork is the older version of -worker?
[00:52] <Randall> fuck is covered under free speach
[00:52] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: do you install it through Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:53] <Solaris444> what on earth is Randall going on about?
[00:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Are you still there?
[00:54] <_blackwater_> apparently we're all sheep
[00:54] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes
[00:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/EFhGkWyR
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: hello, you here?
[00:54] <bp0> how can i let the volume buttons work when the screen is in screensaver?
[00:55] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: I am
[00:55] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: roger. did you see what Typos_King said to you? if you need help getting packages installed, i might be able to help
[00:55] <Solaris444> Oh.
[00:55] <klh> anyone familiar with trident cyberblade/xp and how to get a better resolution than 800x600 ?
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: would need to see the error messages
[00:56] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: no... you have to install a repository from getdeb.... just type getdeb into firefox (or your webbrowser) and you will find it... technally it is "unsupported by connacil" but the community maintains getdeb
[00:56] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: I'll run apt from the cmd line and get the errors for you
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: sounds good
[00:57] <Typos_King> Woosta:   you can always just do a -> sudo apt-get -d install PACKAGE;  to just get the .deb files, and then install manually yourself from /var/cache/apt/archives :)
[00:57] <Woosta> But as for Typos_King's comment, prefork is non-threaded and so PHP likes it. worker is threaded so mod-perl is OK with it. mod-perl should be OK with non-threaded of course
[00:58] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: once you follow the instructions to install the getdeb repository just type Ubuntu Tweak into getdeb's search apps
[00:58] <klh>  trident cyberblade/xp video anyone ?
[00:58] <ja3k3l> hey
[00:58] <ja3k3l> the os determine oob files came as a png instead of leaker
[00:59] <Typos_King> klh:    I don't have one.. .but usually to change resolutions reliably you'd edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[00:59] <BigMacDawg> I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux, as a whole. I have set up a file server and now I am trying to set up CUPS on the server...
[00:59] <ja3k3l> ping
[00:59] <Typos_King> ja3k3l:   wha?   oob as png? who?
[00:59] <BigMacDawg> I have connected an hp photoshop printer via usb and cannot get it to print.
[01:00] <onetinsoldier> ok, he left
[01:00] <BigMacDawg> any ideas, please?
[01:00] <cabrey> I set up an ssh on a ubuntu server. for some reason, when I connect from another computer, it asks for my username immediately, but after I enter my username it takes a good 30-60 seconds for the password prompt to show up. any ideas?
[01:00] <Reign25> cabrey: Has that ever happened before? Is it a new occurence?
[01:00] <randal> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/enable-rgba-transparency-in-ubuntu-910.html
[01:00] <cabrey> Reign25: this is a new install of 10.04
[01:01] <Sir_Konrad> ok. Thanks thewolf.
[01:01] <klh> Typos_King I'd be lost w/out you </sarcasm> =) thanks anyway!
[01:01] <Reign25> cabrey: What OS was it running before? Was it the same situation?
[01:01] <dherde> I am having trouble setting up apache and virtual host monster. I added VHM in the ZM Interface and must have something wrong. Can anyone discuss with me to see what I messed up?
[01:01] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: did you install XBMC?
[01:01] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: print a test page
[01:01] <Sir_Konrad> thewolf: not yet. eating. :D
[01:01] <cabrey> Reign25: before it was running a version of CentOS and all was well. before I had other ubuntu versions on it and it worked fine then as well
[01:01] <dherde> Oops.. wrong forum sorry..
[01:02] <Typos_King> klh:    no problemo :P
[01:02] <Yum> :*
[01:02] <Reign25> cabrey: I'm not sure then :/ Hopefully someone here has an idea.
[01:02] <karan> hi i wanna change from ubuntu to mint linux 9
[01:02] <pdtpatri1k> good for u
[01:02] <cabrey> Reign25: yea I hope so, it gets rather irritating. I'll look through the config too
[01:02] <Sir_Konrad> lol
[01:03] <karan> is there a way to do tht wihtout a burning an iso to a cd
[01:03] <karan> like an update
[01:03] <karan> ?
[01:03] <BigMacDawg> bIAk6j73: I have tried that, but still get nothing. I'm not sure how to set up the connection when on the connection page for the printer setup.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Do you have any options in your BIOS that relate to ACPI or APIC? Also, if there is an option to disable floppy in the BIOS you should use it, since you don't seem to have a floppy drive.
[01:03] <Sir_Konrad> karan: check with the Linux Mint people
[01:03] <tripps> after great progress, i'm back to my laptop freezing up upon booting. I've been upgrading ubuntu on this laptop since feisty without a hiccup. Shame on canonical for creating something this broken. (lynx 10.04 LTS)
[01:03] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport | karan
[01:03] <Reign25> Jordan_U: No, and yes, I do have a floppy drive. It's actually the drive that IS showing up in "Computer"
[01:03] <Typos_King> karan:    doubt it, for the sake of ease, you'll need the .iso later on for any reinstalls anyway, might as well get it :P
[01:04] <karan> ...fine
[01:04] <jX> So I'm having issues with a mdadm created raid. I boot, the RAID sin't working, so I pull up DiskUtility, it's all "This is started, but not working right" so I stop then start it, it's fine.
[01:04] <jX> any idea why? or how to fix it?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Reign25: That's interesting.
[01:04] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Lol yes. Is it not showing up there?
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> karan: start up 'cfdisk' as root. delete ubuntu partitions, write to partition table, set up linux mint partitions, ect... install mint linux. done
[01:05] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: is it a wireless printer?
[01:05] <cabrey> anybody have any reason why it takes a while for the ssh server to put up a password prompt after I enter my username?
[01:05] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: no. it is connected to the server via USB connection.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Have you tried actually reading a floppy with it? There are a bunch of IO errors from /dev/fd0 which usually come from computers exposing a floppy device when none actually exists.
[01:05] <karan> can i keep my data? like how u update form ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 with an update thingy....and i lost no data
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> karan: no. you'd have to 'update' to a new version of ubuntu. you can't go from one ditribution to another without a clean fresh install
[01:06] <cbrinke11> I installed dnsmasq, and it appears as though it does not cache things, how best to debug?
[01:06] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I saw that as well. Let me try something and dmesg it again. I haven't used a floppy in years, so I have no idea if it's still operable or not.
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> karan: so, you first need to save all the data you want to keep onto an external hard drive or something of that nature
[01:06] <thewolf> Sir_Konrad: Be sure to check out all of Tweak's abilities... you can change the xsplash screen (the background you see when you login) change which side (and in what order) your buttons appear on your windows... and most importantly add sources for your updates to check... just don't enable any of the ones that say "testing" or "weekly" or "daily builds" these are buggy ones meant to be fixed
[01:07] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: what happens when you do      system>admin>printing?
[01:07] <karan> onetinsoldier> i got evrything backed up...now wat?
[01:07] <jr_> help pleas
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: no you're on you own pretty much
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try removing the floppy drive, we probably won't be lucky enough that that fixes things but it can't hurt to try.
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> now*
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: now* you're on you own pretty much
[01:07] <respire> my mouse and screen go crazy. i type stuff it goes into xchat and people can read it but it doesn't appear, i can't drag select things in terminals, lots of other weirdness
[01:07] <respire> what broked>
[01:07] <karan> :(
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> karan: start up 'cfdisk' as root. delete ubuntu partitions, write to partition table, set up linux mint partitions, ect... install mint linux. done
[01:08] <Provenzano> is there any way to simple compile ubuntu kernel according to my computer?
[01:08] <Woosta> onetinsoldier: & Typos_King: It was all about the order in which I did things I guess. I just got it to install using kpackagekit without resorting to the cmd line!
[01:08] <Reign25> Jordan_U: lol ok my fault, but I was thinking of the wrong laptop. This actually does NOT have a floppy drive. I'll disable it in the BIOS once these updates are done.
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> Woosta: nice :-) enjoy
[01:09] <michael1982> how do i put my cd rom drive on my desktop?
[01:09] <respire> probably some smart ass root me
[01:09] <respire> because you're too lazy to use selinuix
[01:09] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: the printer is displayed. I am trying a test print now...
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Reign25: :)
[01:09] <respire> and all my passwords are on disk
[01:10] <Time`s_Witness> im in ubuntu i just installed 10.04 and i connect to wireless network, however i have no access to internet for some reason. how can i solve this please?
[01:10] <respire> tho at least they are encrypted filesys, symetric wth gpg and with a password manager
[01:10] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Quick question while you're here: Is it normal for the right side of my screen to be full of black squares after a screensaver? I'm assuming not, but I can't get them off.
[01:10] <michael1982> how do i update my bios?
[01:10] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide
[01:11] <tripps> Is there a command (like dpkg-reconfigure) that resets *all* packages to maintainer defaults?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> michael1982: Either make a FreeDOS boot floppy/CD or use http://flashrom.org/
[01:11] <cabrey> anybody have any reason why it takes a while for the ssh server to put up a password prompt after I enter my username?
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> michael1982: that can depend a little on you motherboard. on mine, i download the new .rom file onto usb memory stick. then boot into bios and theres an option in there to update the bios. i just select that and the .rom file and away it goes
[01:12] <skierpage> I've got built-in VIA8237 sound and an Audigy ZS card.  Sound from the latter breaks up (ZZEEEEEEEEPP) while there's any network activity.  Alsa prefers the Audigy.  What's the simplest best-est way to tell Alsa in Lucid to prefer the built-in?
[01:12] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: print fails. /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed
[01:13] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:that's the error i get.
[01:13] <anbr> Provenzano: "ubuntu kernel" contradicts "according to my computer". not using a supplied kernel is not simple. what do you hope to gain?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> skierpage: System > Preferences > Sound
[01:13] <jjwdesign> Anyone know how to install Eclipse and the PDT?
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> tripps: hmm, not sure. what's the problem you're having?
[01:15] <Provenzano> anbr I hope win some performance
[01:15] <Chak82> hello
[01:15] <Provenzano> it is too difficult to a 'noob'?
[01:15] <anbr> Provenzano: a measurable performance gain? i don't think so
[01:15] <Chak82> i have some problems with lucid lynx
[01:15] <Provenzano> ok anbr =)
[01:15] <Chak82> i cant open gnome art manager
[01:15] <tripps> onetinsoldier, freezing upon loading up X. had it working just fine and for some reason it crapped out again. Dunno what did it and would like to avoid format/reinstall. Had to set i915 mode to 1 for it to work; now telling me /dev/fb0 doesn't exist if I go into failsafe, etc.
[01:15] <Provenzano> thanks ;)
[01:15] <anbr> np
[01:16] <skierpage> Jordan_U: Oops, I'm on Kubuntu.  What does System > Preferences > Sound do under the covers?
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> tripps: roger :-( don't know i can help much with that
[01:17] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: on the connection screen, i select HP Printer(HPLIP) and move to the next screen. On the next screen, i'm not sure what connection to type in.
[01:17] <holmser> I keep getting a popup that says "apt authentication issue"
[01:17] <Jordan_U> skierpage: It changes pulseaudio settings, I don't know if kubuntu uses pulseaudio. You should as in #kubuntu
[01:17] <Jordan_U> s/as/ask
[01:17] <sam_2007> moening guys. quick question about Skype on ubuntu.  it wont let me log in says i have one already running  but i didnt open it and there is nothing in the indication area.  any ideas?
[01:17] <Time`s_Witness> how can i solve wireless problems please?
[01:18] <holmser> any idea what could cause that?  The warning says it could be caused by a proxy, but I'm not running a proxy
[01:18] <Reign25> Jordan_U: The floppy drive is disabled now, but now there are multiple black boxes on both sides of my screen. It's as if they are making a task bar on the left and right sides of my screen.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try disabling Desktop Effects in System > Preferences > Appearance
[01:19] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Never mind. I just fixed it. It was a panel...odd.
[01:19] <Typos_King> skierpage:      system settings > multimedia :P
[01:19] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Yea. That's what I assumed it was as well.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are devices still not being recognized?
[01:20] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I'm about to try now, but the floppy is still listed in "Computer"
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> ok, question. if you re-install a package, does it re-install the config files that come with the package? what if you have edited the config files? will it be overwritten with the maintainers that are included in the package?
[01:21] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: what options do you get?
[01:22] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, you can possibly delete the settings then reinstall, but you'll have 2 be able to find the settings
[01:22] <JAMD456> Can someone help me? I keep getting the following error in terminal any time I run a command
[01:22] <JAMD456> Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.
[01:22] <onetinsoldier> Zelozelos: roger. so if i want the Maintainers config file i need to purge the packge before reinstalling it?
[01:23] <axident> partitions creating problem! Can someone please help? Im new to Ubuntu so I dont know much about partitions sizes for Ubuntu and how it will be smart to part them. Hdd  size is 298 GiB so there are plenty of space to use! Please any suggestion?
[01:23] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, it help to know what pgm your tkin about, but purge may work as well
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: I am prompted to enter a connection, then it gives examples such as:
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> http://hostname:631
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> lpd://hostname/queue
[01:23] <Typos_King> axident:  suggestions for?
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> ...etc.
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:
[01:23] <FloodBot1> BigMacDawg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: i have tried all of them
[01:24] <karan> sexsexeseeeeex
[01:24] <onetinsoldier> Zelozelos: ok, roger. tripps is asking how to have all his packages restore the original package maintainers config files... for all his installed packages
[01:25] <BigMacDawg> Sorry.
[01:25] <axident> Typos_king: suggestion for size of partitions and how many?
[01:25] <colorlessprism> karan, not appropriate
[01:25] <Zelozelos> onetinsoldier, uhh, thats a big job, it's prob better to reinstall the sys
[01:25] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Still, nothing recognized.
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> I have a script that will re-install all packages that are currently installed on a system. but i don't think that alone re-installs the original config file that come in a package
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are there any ACPI or APIC settigns in the BIOS?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> onetinsoldier: With --purge it will
[01:26] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: yep, i know
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: tripps is asking how to have all his packages restore the original package maintainers config files... for all his installed packages
[01:27] <Typos_King> axident:   at least 2, one for '/' root and one for 'swap', regular install will be around 2.5gbs, sooo, you can decide from there, if you can, you may also want a partition for your 'HOME' folder, and make others where you'd keep documents and videos/media, so when something happens and you need to reinstall, you only do it for the system partition, no  losing any multimedia or docs :)
[01:27] <Reign25> Jordan_U: No.
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: don't think we'd want to use --purge for that, hehe
[01:27] <tripps> onetinsoldier, Zelozelos problem is somewhere along the way my network broke too so I don't even have access to repos. Really frustrating, and I don't know what changed since everything was working fine.
[01:27] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: set the log to debug and pastebin it
[01:28] <tripps> 9.10 works perfect on my laptop, 10.04 is a catastrophe. Don't know how so much can change
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> tripps: are you only able to get to a recovery/rescue prompt atm?
[01:28] <ryanakca> I have a Communication controller: Agere Systems Lucent V.92 Data/Fax Modem . I am wondering if I can record my phone line with said modem?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> tripps: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -pcritical" will almost do what you want
[01:28] <Zelozelos> tripps i still say its prob easier just to reinstall the sys, theres a lot of packages to reconfigure
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> tripps: are does the system boot ok but X just doesn't start?
[01:29] <Typos_King> axident:   I use a 10gbs for '/' and 1gb for 'swap', and use another partition where I keep my videos/mp3s/docs :)
[01:29] <koe> how can I login -.-" on irc ?
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> are = or
[01:29] <koe>     /msg NickServ and ?
[01:29] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Any ideas?
[01:29] <Zelozelos> but if you only need to fix like 5 or 10 things, its hard 2 judge
[01:29] <tripps> onetinsoldier, Zelozelos Jordan_U yes I can boot into recovery mode and do failsafe low res mode
[01:30] <tripps> but no network now for some reason.
[01:30] <GeekSquid> onetinsoldier: can I pass you ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ....see 'man dpkg-reconfigure' #
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> tripps: roger. i'm kind of surprised that dpkg doesn't have a command to just restore config files only
[01:30] <koe> come one guys ... can someone tell me ? how can I login to IRC with a registred username ? /msg NickServ identity <password>  its not working
[01:30] <tripps> Jordan_U, ok I'll try that.
[01:30] <koe> come one guys ... can someone tell me ? how can I login to IRC with a registred username ? /msg NickServ identity <password>  its not working
[01:31] <Jordan_U> koe: identify, not identity
[01:31] <Pirate_Hunter> looking for a desktop weekly/day planner what are the options available?
[01:31] <jrib> onetinsoldier: --force-confmiss, no?
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> GeekSquid: i thought about that command.. but i believe that just reconfigures a package, with the config files it has. it does not restore the configs included in a .deb package
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> jrib: hmm, let me look! :-)
[01:31] <JAMD456> Can someone help me? In terminal every time I run a command Fontconfig errors pop up
[01:32] <jrib> onetinsoldier: or maybe confnew in this case
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> jrib: yep.. i think confnew
[01:32] <skiwithpete> hi
[01:32] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    try another tab or close the termianal and reopen a new terminal session :)
[01:33] <tripps> Jordan_U, -a -pcritical that is. then I'll need to reconfigure X to enable KMS like before; that's what got X working fine. Then I started to play with s2ram, s2disk and somewhere something got seriously hosed
[01:33] <onetinsoldier> tripps: might have something you can 'try'... at your own risk, in the lowres mode
[01:33] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    I'd think some prior running lost/zombie process
[01:33] <Jordan_U> tripps: KMS should be enabled by default in 10.04
[01:33] <tripps> Jordan_U, how about koala?
[01:34] <JAMD456> Typos_King No it has been happening all week even when the computer is shutting down I am getting a list of font config errors rather then the shutdown splash
[01:34] <Jordan_U> tripps: No, it was only enabled for intel in 9.10
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> tripps: just by looking at what your saying, i think chances are high you might just have to re-install from scratch. but i have something you can 'try'... i think
[01:34] <BigMacDawg> BlAcK6j73: I pasted the log. Were you able to see it?
[01:34] <auraCatalyst> Could someone help me get my partitioning done?
[01:34] <tripps> Jordan_U, I upgraded to koala, then upgraded to lynx
[01:34] <wildbat_laptop> auraCatalyst, what you need ?
[01:34] <tripps> had to enable KMS by doing the i915 setmode fix
[01:34] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: you have paste the  address for me to see it
[01:35] <Zelozelos> tripps heh, upgraded, now theres the root of the issues there rofl
[01:35] <auraCatalyst> Mind if I message you, wildbat?
[01:35] <Typos_King> JAMD456:    can you paste it for use to see?    pastie.org or paste2.com or so
[01:35] <mattpat> Hey y'all, anyone know of a way to load new drivers without restarting? I just activated proprietary drivers for a wifi adapter, but I'm using the LiveCD, so I effectively can't restart to activate them
[01:35] <JAMD456> Typos_King will do
[01:35] <Jordan_U> tripps: Then just "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak"
[01:35] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: sorry about that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/435828/
[01:35] <tripps> Jordan_U, will the -a -pcritical return filees to 10.04 maintainer configs? I was careful to always choose maintainer's package during the upgrade
[01:35] <MASSAKRE> good evening
[01:35] <sergi808> evening
[01:35] <tripps> Zelozelos, tell me about it :-/
[01:35] <jrib> mattpat: you shouldn't have to restart, make sure they are loaded with lsmod I guess...
[01:36] <Scunizi> Thunderbird seems to send me the same email I am replying to.. how do I change this behavoir?
[01:36] <MASSAKRE> the Ubuntu 10.04 haven't intel 64bits version?
[01:36] <mattpat> jrib: I would hope I wouldn't, but there are several indicators that say "Your new drivers will not work until you restart," and in the wifi menu, it says "device not ready"
[01:36] <Typos_King> mattpat:   usually you'd do -> sudo modprobe DRIVERNAMEHERE;   you can get the name from the -> lsmod
[01:36] <onetinsoldier> MASSAKRE: yes.. one moment
[01:36] <sergi808> MASSAKRE: the AMD64 works for both
[01:36] <wildbat_laptop> auraCatalyst, ok
[01:36] <MASSAKRE> only 32 bits, and AMD 64bits versions?
[01:36] <jrib> mattpat: ignore the gui
[01:36] <Scunizi> MASSAKRE: amd/64 is also for intel
[01:37] <Jordan_U> tripps: It will if you add --force-confnew as jrib suggested
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> strange... the 9.10 has the 64 version, and AMD64 version
[01:37] <jrib> mattpat: at worse you have to restart some services or tools, but you need to make sure the module is loaded first
[01:37] <JAMD456> Typos_King http://pastie.org/966857
[01:37] <xangua> MASSAKRE: are the same
[01:37] <Zelozelos> MASSAKRE, the 64 bit architecture is modled after an amd processor, thats why its says amd 64 bit ;)
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> ok
[01:37] <MASSAKRE> thanx
[01:38] <shadmego> greetings!
[01:38] <gartral> whats the name of the chat application in ubuntu? and why wont it let me open a chat
[01:38] <axident> Typos_King: Your last suggestions seems to fit my mid best! I wrote something about this, but there were no suggestion or hint about sizes. Could you suggest who big I shall make them? I know that Ubuntu 10.04 install size is almost 3.4 GiB with only two partitions!
[01:39] <jrib> gartral: empathy?
[01:39] <mattpat> Typos_King: I'm not finding the module in lsmod, though that could be just because I don't know its name (though nothing even remotely suggesting Broadcom)
[01:39] <mattpat> jrib: Any thoughts which services I should restart for new wireless drivers?
[01:39] <ibkanat> I major mouse issues can I get some help? seems like this is the answer but cant get my mouse to take the adjustments http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Are there any ACPI or APIC settigns in the BIOS?
[01:40] <Typos_King> mattpat:   broadcomm drivers go by BCM and some numbers
[01:40] <gartral> jrib: alright, what could be keeping empathy from open any chat on any network? i can edit, remove and add buddies, but not talk to them unless they open the chat first
[01:40] <jrib> mattpat: I'd try networking and network-manager.  No idea what you actually need to restart.  In my macbook's case, it "just worked"
[01:40] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Nope.
[01:40] <jrib> gartral: no idea, never used empathy
[01:40] <ibkanat> this is using lucid
[01:40] <mattpat> Typos_King: Yeah, nothing for lsmod | grep bcm :(
[01:40] <gartral> also, i cant set my status from the name panel thingy
[01:40] <Typos_King> axident:    I'd probably stick with a 10gbs, or if you plan to install some big packages like virtualbox and such, maybe 20gbs
[01:41] <ibkanat> also I read through http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/PointerAcceleration
[01:41] <ibkanat> but still cant get the mouse to slow
[01:41] <SpiritOfSadness> !java
[01:41] <shadmego> Can someone help me with an issue in my upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[01:41] <shadmego> I have a very strange message that I can't find anywhere (exactly)
[01:42] <mattpat> jrib: That worked, thanks :)
[01:42] <ibkanat> so any xorg experts feel free to jump in
[01:42] <ibkanat> xinput set-prop "Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop® 2.10" "Device Accel Profile" 2
[01:42] <ibkanat> property Device Accel Profile doesn't exist, you need to specify its type and format
[01:42] <skiwithpete> can someone help me get middle click working in firefox
[01:42] <shadmego> init: plymouth-splash main process terminated with status 1
[01:43] <skiwithpete> I don't think the 2button click on my touchpad is correctly configured
[01:43] <Zelozelos> shadmego, i can give you the shortest, sweetest answer, reinstall using the 10.04 cd, or you will deff have more issues then the current ones ;)
[01:43] <shadmego> any ideas?
[01:43] <skiwithpete> recon its an xorg solutionn
[01:43] <ibkanat> can someone tell me if 10.4 uses hal for the mouse or not
[01:43] <skiwithpete> middle click seems to do right click
[01:43] <shadmego> This error has caused my Linux machine to not boot
[01:43] <tripps> Jordan_U, you're saying I should delete the xorg.conf file?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> tripps: Yes, the default for 10.04 is not to have one at all.
[01:44] <dorgan> how do i look at an upstart script?
[01:44] <onetinsoldier> tripps: rename it if you rather. it does the same thing
[01:44] <JAMD456> Typos_King http://pastie.org/966857 the error I am getting
[01:45] <tripps> Jordan_U, ok done. let's reboot and see what happens.
[01:45] <ibkanat> hey just got a little something from xset m 1/25 0
[01:45] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   saw it :)
[01:46] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   sounds as if it there's an error in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf :|
[01:46] <JAMD456> Typos_King How do I fix it?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try adding the kernel parameter "lapic".
[01:47] <Reign25> Jordan_U: How would I go about that?
[01:47] <tripps> Jordan_U, onetinsoldier no dice. frozen solid
[01:48] <tripps> booting back into recovery mode
[01:48] <Jordan_U> tripps: Frozen after rebooting after removing the xorg.conf?
[01:48] <tripps> Jordan_U, yes
[01:48] <shadmego> If someone is free, I could use a bit of help getting past a significant issue
[01:48] <skiwithpete> can someone help me with middle button emulation on a touchpad
[01:48] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: its seems to have printed a pdf file
[01:48] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'm not convinced KMS is enabled :
[01:48] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   check your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, maybe you have a missing <cachedir> entry, in mine is on line 73
[01:48] <tripps> running failsafe
[01:48] <gartral> shadmego: you should post your issue, know will know if they can help you untill we all know your problem
[01:49] <JAMD456> Typos_King will do
[01:49] <shadmego> ahh.
[01:49] <shadmego> I posted above and didn't want to flood the channel
[01:49] <axident> Typos_king. The partition for video/doc/mp3  is the /home?
[01:49] <shadmego> I have a client that updated their 9.10 ubuntu to 10.04 on Sunday
[01:49] <shadmego> Since then, they are getting the following error message during boot:
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the first menu entry, then add "lapic" to the end of the "linux" line and press ctrl+x to boot.
[01:49] <Zelozelos> shadmego, seriously, you said you upgraded , you will encounter lots of issues this way, its best to install freashly from ce
[01:49] <JAMD456> Typos_King the line is not there
[01:50] <tripps> Jordan_U, booted into failsafe. should I take a peak at some logs?
[01:50] <Zelozelos> *cd
[01:50] <Typos_King> axident:   doesn't have to be, I use another partition for storing those
[01:50] <gartral> shadmego: then post all on one line, if it's a log, paste it too www.pastebin.com then post the link here
[01:50] <Reign25> Jordan_U: K. I'll try that now.
[01:50] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: i assure you, nothing has printed. it is a multifunction machine and i did make a copy of a document. i'm not sure if this is what's showing up.
[01:50] <shadmego> init: plymouth-splash main process (#) terminated with status 1
[01:50] <gartral> !enter  shadmego
[01:50] <gartral> !enter | shadmego
[01:51] <Jordan_U> tripps: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" ?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> tripps: And what graphics card do you have?
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: i know what i would try, but i don't know if it would fix it
[01:51] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   mine looks like -> http://paste2.org/p/837301
[01:51] <tripps> Jordan_U, root=UUID<longUUID> ro single
[01:51] <rui> hello everybody
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> hello rui
[01:52] <Guest37140> Hi, anyone know how to stream audio from amarok to airport express?
[01:52] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: open up a text file   put some text in it   and retry
[01:52] <tripps> Jordan_U, intel 82852/855GM
[01:52] <shadmego> Anything would help. I wasn't around for the upgrade so I don't know what steps were taken or what questions were answered.
[01:52] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:will do...
[01:52] <rui> can anyone helpeme to installa web cam on Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> tripps: Is the recovery shell using the full resolution of your screen?
[01:52] <Guest37140> there's an option in the sound server to make airtunes devices discoverable, but I don' t know how to find them
[01:53] <bizkut1> vps for sale. please pm
[01:53] <Zelozelos> whats a vps?
[01:53] <rui> onetinsoldier:can you helpeme to install a web cam on ubuntu 10.04
[01:53] <JAMD456> Typos_King I am missing Huge Chunks of what is in your Fonts.conf
[01:53] <Jordan_U> bizkut1: Advertizements are not apropriate for #ubuntu
[01:53] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'm in failsafeX which is the correct res
[01:53] <mickster04> !ot | bizkut1
[01:53] <tripps> Jordan_U, recovery shell console would be if I switched to it
[01:54] <Smeh> I'm trying to create a softraid array in 9.10 using palimpsest but when i try and create the array is just reports "the daemon is inhibited". The installer partitioner doesn't seem to want to give me the option of creating a softraid so i don't know what to do..
[01:54] <rui> hello onetinsoldier
[01:54] <gartral> shadmego: you need to learn how to use irc before anyone can help you, i cannot follow you if you dont 1) post my name in front of each message so i SEE they're for me. 2) dont use enter as period. and 3) paste all logs/errors to a pastebin
[01:54] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   just bear in mind mine is for 9.1 :)
[01:54] <gartral> Typos_King: there is no such build!
[01:54] <Jordan_U> tripps: If your consoles (like tty1) are full resolution then you're almost certainly using KMS
[01:55] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:55] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: can not print. when attempting to, the status of the printer says '/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed. should i try to change the connection for the printer? could that be wrong?
[01:55] <Typos_King> gartral:   I guess I missed the 0 :)
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: i would do this command to see all the plymouth packages that i have installed --> 1) dpkg -l '*plymouth*' | grep ^ii  2) run this command for all those package names --> sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends <package_name>  3) reinstall all those packages again with... sudo apt-get install <pacakge_name>
[01:55] <JAMD456> Typos_King in other words don't cut, paste and save :P ,Is there any way to restore mine
[01:55] <tripps> Jordan_U, well this is the "one time low res X" so may be vesa
[01:55] <gartral> Jordan_U: how do i fix that if im using nvidia drivers? im sick of ugly consoles
[01:55] <erghezi> i cant enable vsiual effects
[01:55] <Typos_King> JAMD456:   well, you can always try to do the cut/paste, just back yours up :)
[01:56] <Jordan_U> gartral: You're stuck with VESA resolutions when using a proprietary driver.
[01:56] <gartral> erghezi: you need a 3d acceleration driver
[01:56] <shadmego> onetinsoldir: I would love to try that,  or find a way around plymouth altogether, but I can't boot the system, not even to a working grub maint. shell
[01:56] <JAMD456> Typos_King I will try that :S
[01:56] <shadmego> onetinsoldier: I would love to try that,  or find a way around plymouth altogether, but I can't boot the system, not even to a working grub maint. shell
[01:56] <tripps> Jordan_U, actually looks like regular 25-ish line text console in this mode
[01:56] <gartral> Jordan_U: redhat/fedora can force vesa_high_res
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> shadmego: oh, i see. don't kow
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> know*
[01:56] <tripps> Jordan_U, how do I verify KMS' use
[01:56] <erghezi> gartral: i install it! i use 195.36.24 nvidia driver
[01:57] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: Find out the LAN ip address for your printer    then  open a console and type the following      hp-makeuri    your ip
[01:57] <shotgun4us> list
[01:57] <gartral> erghezi: from repos or nvidia's site?
[01:57] <shadmego> onetinsoldier: As I currently see it, I have two options: 1. to reinstall everything from scratch. 2. Try to bypass plymouth which might tear the system up even further and then reinstall from scratch
[01:57] <rui> onetinsoldier: can you helpeme to install a webcam on ubuntu 10.04?
[01:57] <erghezi> gartral: from nvidia site
[01:57] <mrgenixus> I have a new kernel installed, but the new kernel panics becuase the grub config isn't set correctly; the old one runs just fine; I think the issue is related to the fact that I'm running in a Wubi install -- which is to say -- I'm running from a file on an ntfs disk, and when the kernel tried to mount root, it fails
[01:57] <tripps> maybe I'll uninstall laptop-mode-tools
[01:57] <Jordan_U> shadmego: Do disable plymouth just remove the "splash" kernel parameter
[01:57] <axident> Typos_king. I think I do only have one question more! do it make since to make a partition for stored settings? If yes, witch type shall it be?
[01:58] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: it's not connected via ip or ethernet. it is connected directly to the server via USB cable.
[01:58] <erghezi> gartral: from this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> rui: nope.. sorry. i'm not familiar with how to install webcams or webcam software
[01:58] <mrgenixus> for whatever reason ubuntu seems to extra-complicate grub so I can't seem to find the file that isn't correct
[01:58] <mrgenixus> Ideas
[01:58] <gartral> erghezi: THAT"S your problem, you just screwed yourself hard! reinstall from scratch and install the nvidia driver from hardware profiler
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> mrgenixus: i hear you!
[01:58] <rui> onetinsoldier:thank you
[01:58] <rui> can anyone helpeme to installa web cam on Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:58] <mrgenixus> onetinsoldier: is your skin blue?
[01:58] <shadmego> Jordan_U: I tried removing the splash parameter and got a similar, though different error. I am not in front of the machine anymore so I can't repeat that particular error
[01:58] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: I think its looking for an ip address
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> grub2 kind of sucks for configuring compared to the good old grub1
[01:59] <erghezi> gartral: he he:))
[01:59] <Typos_King> axident:    stored settings are usually at $HOME folder, so :)
[01:59] <tripps> Jordan_U, an other ideas? I've been fighting this for 10 hours now :-/
[01:59] <mrgenixus> onetinsoldier: tell me something I don't know?
[01:59] <mrgenixus> it doesn't seem like its designed to be configured
[01:59] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: ok, i will try the IP address of the server.
[01:59] <gartral> erghezi: see ya laters. the #ubuntu community has 0 support for installing any propriotary driver from the manufactuer's website
[02:00] <Jordan_U> onetinsoldier: I disagree, I'll take separate clearly defined files over a single one with comments-that-aren't-really-comments and areas where user modifications will be silently discarded by update-grub
[02:00] <erghezi> gartral: so can you tell me, how to remove it?
[02:00] <gartral> erghezi: you've fucked you computer hard. I don't know a more blunt way to say it.. you need too reinstall ubuntu
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: roger. well, i don't like it so far. i used to be able to help people with their grub problems. now, i don't even bother to try
[02:01] <Jordan_U> !ohmy | gartral
[02:01] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: there's something to be said for staying with convention
[02:01] <Kennith> Should I be adding PPAs for any new programs I install?
[02:01] <Zelozelos> tripps, as i told shadmego and yourself earlier, if you upgraded and you're having issues, reinstall freashly from disk, itll be the best way to fix everyting ;)
[02:01] <Reign25> Jordan_U: To which line? There is one linux line, but at the end is "Quiet splash", but it's not the last line. Should I enter it there?
[02:01] <erghezi> gartral: but that's not solution ! i install ubuntu from alpha:(
[02:02] <Kennith> I've heard that the Ubuntu repositories aren't always up-to-date, and adding PPAs is a good thing to do
[02:02] <tripps> Jordan_U, I was afraid you said that. I got it working though for an hour or so before I started playing with suwsusp
[02:02] <Jordan_U> mrgenixus: Convention is broken, ask Ubuntu's grub maintainers that have had to deal with bug reports about the unintuitive behavior of legacy update-grub
[02:02] <gartral> erghezi: well.. time to download the release iso.. once you've installed the nvidia drivers from their site, you make chankes that are irreperrable in the kernel.. there's no more blut a way to explain it, you've toasted ubuntu
[02:03] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: do you have hplip  installed   and what happens when you open the browser and enter    localhost:631
[02:03] <gartral> erghezi: perhaps next time you should read the warnings?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes, add it after splash (and on the same line as splash)
[02:03] <JAMD456> Typos_King Thank you for your help, I fixed the problem by adding the <cachedir> lines from yours to mine
[02:03] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: ok --  fine.  it WAS a pain -- the devil you know and all -- that doesn't allow me to correct the issue
[02:04] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Thank you. Booting now.
[02:04] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:I believe HPLIP is installed. it is an option listed. i am trying to install and configure the printer via the localhost:631 address.
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You're welcome.
[02:04] <mrgenixus> I'm currently looking at the grub.cfg file, which I can't edit and make any real difference, and I can't seem to find the file I do need to change.. and that's less well-documented than ever.
[02:04] <rui> please help
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: perhaps if they'd just put that darn /etc/default/grub file in with all the other ones! grrr... in /etc/grub.d
[02:04] <mrgenixus> this seems like a step backwards
[02:04] <gartral> erghezi: or.. petition nvidia to release drivers that dont suck... ohh.. wait.. we've been doing that for 15 years
[02:04] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: That is the only way i know how to congfigure it.
[02:04] <rui> can anyone help me to install a webcam on Ubuntu
[02:05] <Jordan_U> mrgenixus: Could you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[02:05] <erghezi> gartral: i have a big bug. so I had to try it:(
[02:05] <anbr> rui: just plug it in. if any of your programs wants to use it, it will
[02:05] <mrgenixus> I can .. one sec -- there doesn't seem to be any difference between what works and what doesn't
[02:05] <erghezi> gartral: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/580167
[02:05] <mrgenixus> I have to conclude it's not a configuration problem
[02:05] <axident> Typos_king: Not more about partitions sizes. In the case I have to to fix/repair my system one day, what do I then have to do? Something with backup or how is it done at linux?
[02:06] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Nothing solved :/
[02:06] <papertigers> anyone have any luck mounting nfsv4 at boot?
[02:06] <mrgenixus> Jordan_U: and not with grub
[02:06] <nicolas> hi, I'm new to ubuntu, I have a ntfs partitioned disk that is automaticly mounted when I click on it in nautilus, how can I set umask for it?
[02:06] <rui> anbr: i have plug in and used cheese and he dont  find the web cam
[02:06] <mrgenixus> it might be I don't have the correct filesystem driver in the initrd?
[02:06] <gartral> erghezi: i can garuntee, a reinstall now will fix 90% of your bugs. you're literally at the bottum of the barrel when it comes to bad positions, you've made the mistakeo f updating from alpha>beta>release, and THEN added a completly unsupportable driver too your system!
[02:07] <Smeh> I'm trying to create a softraid array in 9.10 using palimpsest but when i try and create the array is just reports "the daemon is inhibited". The installer partitioner doesn't seem to want to give me the option of creating a softraid so i don't know what to do..
[02:07] <nicolas> atm it is 700 but I want 755 for the mounted volume(s)
[02:07] <anbr> rui: i don't know cheese.  type   gphoto2 -P   at the command line. what happens?
[02:09] <rui> anbr: im installing Gphoto2
[02:09] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, you can't with gvfs( i guess, can't find a solution to it...) but you can mount is with ntfs-3g
[02:09] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[02:09] <shadmego> Jordan_U: I was wrong. When removing the "splash" kernel parameter, the same error message comes up - init: plymouth-splash main process (#) terminated with status 1
[02:09] <ChogyDan> rui: you can also try gstreamer-properties
[02:10] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: so I have to mount the volumes manually instead of letting nautilus (or whatever is triggered by nautilus) do it?
[02:10] <rui> anbr: i try gphoto2 and give that message *** Error ***
[02:10] <rui> Could not detect any camera
[02:10] <rui> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Try installing the latest upstream kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ (be sure to install the header package as well as the image package).
[02:10] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, yes sir if you want it mount auto, do it in fstab
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Would you mind filing a bug report?
[02:11] <papertigers> anyone follow the nfsv4 guide on the ubuntu site and have it work?
[02:11] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: but ntsf-3g and fstab don't work well together do they?
[02:12] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I think that was in the update.
[02:12] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Sure.
[02:12] <wildbat_laptop> nicolas, hey good ^^ ~ i was using it in 9.10
[02:12] <nicolas> wildbat_laptop: ok, ty for the info :)
[02:12] <rui> anbr: i try gstreamer-properties and he donts find any camera
[02:13] <tedddd> my themes are all messed up -- is there any way to easily re-install them
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Reign25: The kernel on that page is newer than the latest kernel in 10.04. It also doesn't have any Ubuntu specific modifications.
[02:13] <kcaze> Hi everyone, I sort of nuked gnome by trying to manually install GTK+
[02:13] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Gotcha. I'll install it now.
[02:14] <kcaze> So far I installed the following libraries: glib, pango, and atk
[02:14] <rui> anbr:my  web cam is a Vicious and Divine
[02:14] <kcaze> Now all my text has turned into squares that look like this: "[]". Anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[02:14] <rui> anbr:and have an usb connection
[02:15] <bwest> ok, let me rephrase the issue
[02:15] <rui> anbr:an usb port
[02:15] <sirninja> If I were to buy a new desktop computer, what kind of hardware should I get so it is most compatible with linux?
[02:16] <Reign25> Jordan_U: It won't let me install the package for I386
[02:16] <Jordan_U> sirninja: Buy one with Ubuntu pre-installed from companies like System76 or Dell
[02:16] <Zelozelos> sirninja, some manufacturers offer ubuntu systems now
[02:16] <kcaze> Does anyone know if I can fix Gnome by installing the rest of the libraries for gtk?
[02:17] <Zelozelos> sirninja, but 1 thing i wont suggest is an nvidea graphics card rofl
[02:17] <sirninja> lol. that's what I have now. I know exactly what you mean
[02:17] <anbr> rui: sorry, i don't know
[02:17] <rui> anbr:ok
[02:17] <LUCIDementia> I feel like I've tried everything but my wireless internet still won't work. I'm using a Dell laptop so I need to ndiswrapper to make it work but something's still wrong
[02:18] <rui> anbr:what can i do to have web cam with ubuntu
[02:19] <Jordan_U> sirninja: http://www.system76.com/ http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[02:19] <sirninja> LUCIDementia: is it a dell studio? That's what I have. I had to install the package bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:19] <LUCIDementia> it's a Dell vostro 1500 if that means anything to you
[02:19] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: ndiswrapper is almost never actually needed
[02:19] <Zed`>  /llh
[02:20] <Zelozelos> LUCIDementia, i have a dell vostro, and i dont have 2 do anything for my wireless 2 work, but i guess you have a diff wireless adapter? hopefully you tried it b4 you started messin with it
[02:20] <sirninja> LUCIDEmentia: you should try installing bcmwl-kernel-source if it's a broadcom wireless card
[02:20] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Could you pastebin the output of "lshw -C network" ?
[02:20] <LUCIDementia> it is broadcom
[02:21] <LUCIDementia> and it didn't work, which is why I started messing with it. Now I can see wireless networks but still can't connect
[02:21] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: What exactly did you try before ndiswrapper?
[02:22] <LUCIDementia> honestly I don't know. I just kept following instructions on forums that sounded similar to my problem but I rarely understood what I was doing
[02:23] <LUCIDementia> that and installing things from synaptic.
[02:23] <mohawkboi> Has anyone had any luck sorting Force Feedback for G25 in Ubuntu 10.04? I have tried everything in the forums and on google but no luck. Any ideas greatly appreciated :-)
[02:23] <anbr> rui: i'm not sure if a working  gphoto2 --capture-image   would be enough "have web cam" for you. paste the output of  aptitude show gphoto2
[02:24] <Hssan> any one can help me here ?
[02:24] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: Are you still there?
[02:25] <Zelozelos> Hssan, please state the issue, if you have already and no-one answered just keep trying
[02:25]  * Hssan need help with ubuntu if any one can
[02:25] <oyo> hi
[02:25] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Doing that can lead to configurations that will prevent even correct instructions from working. If you pastebin the output from "lshw -C network" I can tell you if your card is supported and by what drivers. Once we've figured that out I'd recommend a fresh install (if you haven't done much customization yet) to ensure there are no conflicting configurations.
[02:25] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: yea
[02:25] <mohawkboi> If I am using a gaming controller for a game played under wine should I get support for force feedback for it from wine?
[02:25] <Hssan> Zelozelos can i pvt you ?
[02:25] <rui> anbr:i have the following message *** Error ***
[02:25] <rui> Could not detect any camera
[02:25] <rui> ERROR: Could not capture.
[02:25] <rui> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[02:25] <Zelozelos> Hssan, no, just state the issue(s)
[02:25] <FloodBot1> rui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <anbr> rui:     aptitude show gphoto2
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Reign25: What error message do you get exactly when trying to install the package?
[02:26] <Hssan> my issue is here http://www.just.edu.jo/~mzali/courses/Winter10/Cis345/Final_pr/CIS345_FinalPr_Winter2010.pdf
[02:26] <rui> anbr:explain to me im new to ubuntu
[02:27] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73: I've been able to verify that the server sees the printer on the usb ports. but connecting it in the CUPS localhost:631 page is still baffling me.
[02:27] <LUCIDementia> cool. I'm glad I'm interacting with someone that can make sense of this
[02:27] <LUCIDementia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/435846/
[02:27] <oyo> my ubuntu 10.04 is too slow when I maximize the window , who can help me
[02:27] <Hssan> i need to make finger command without use it
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You need to install the linux-image package first.
[02:28] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: go to the Admin tab and click "Add printers"
[02:28] <mrgenixus> oyo -- try turing off desktop effects
[02:28] <Jordan_U> Hssan: We aren't going to do your homework for you, let alone your final
[02:28] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: actually when you plug it in the usb port typically ubuntu will recognize it and set it up
[02:28] <Zelozelos> Hssan, this is the ubuntu support chat room, ie, its for people who are having issues with ubuntu like, a driver or bug, not exactly for educational questions, try #ubuntu-offtopic mkay
[02:29] <seattlegaucho> !unity
[02:29] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: I just came in .. so what printer is it?
[02:29] <anbr> rui: what ubuntu version are you using?
[02:29] <rui> anbr :ubuntu 10.04
[02:29] <Morell> Hello... how to install "lvm" from the live CD?
[02:29] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: it's an HP photosmart. but connected to the server via usb.
[02:30] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: server being a different machine? and where are you typing localhost:631? on your machine?
[02:31] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: Yes, that is the case. Server is a different machine. i am accessing it via localhost:631
[02:31] <coppro> My wireless is periodically stopping working; it says "Device or resource busy" if I try a scan, but otherwise no error, but it won't connect to a network
[02:31] <rui> anbr:Package: gphoto2
[02:31] <rui> State: installed
[02:31] <rui> Automatically installed: no
[02:31] <rui> Version: 2.4.5-2
[02:31] <rui> Priority: extra
[02:31] <FloodBot1> rui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <rui> Section: universe/utils
[02:31] <Reign25> Jordan_U: The computer seems to keep freezing up on me. I can't get the download to finish. Do you think this is associated with the same issue? It's getting seriously frustrating.
[02:32] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: so localhost:631 is on your machine.. that won't work to set it up.. you have to do it on the server
[02:32] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg:sorry I thought it was a attached directly
[02:32] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I realize there's a lot to read there, but I just want to make sure you got the link. If not I can send it again.
[02:32] <rui> FloodBot1: ok im new at Xchat and past bin, please explain tome what to do i have an acccount with Launchpad
[02:33] <BlAck6j73> BigMacDawg: yea go to the server
[02:33] <IdleOne> !paste | rui
[02:33] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: I see. how would i go about doing that? that means i've been trying to connect a printer to a machine that is not even connected physically. LOL.
[02:33] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: server first with http://<ip address>:631
[02:33] <BigMacDawg> BlAck6j73:np.
[02:33] <greezmunkey> Hssan: ?
[02:33] <GTroy> any beginner questions I can help with?
[02:34] <GTroy> beginner-medium user?
[02:34] <Izinucs> GTroy: try #ubuntu-beginners ??
[02:34] <IdleOne> GTroy: just stick around and when someone asks a question you can help with then you help :)
[02:34] <BigMacDawg> Izinucs: I tried the server ip:631, however got 403 Forbidden.
[02:34] <GTroy> true, I thought I'd get in the way as fast as possible
[02:34] <BigMacDawg> i know i set up the CUPS on the machine.
[02:34] <mohawkboi> If I am using a gaming controller for a game played under wine should I get support for force feedback for it from wine?
[02:35] <GTroy> mohawkboi, is the driver installed in wine?
[02:35] <lordeden> I got a question, I just fixed my ati/fglrx problem and I noticed that scrolling and window movment across the desktop was jerky, is this because desktop effects are not enabled?
[02:35] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: try localhost:631
[02:35] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: you can log into the server with ssh then use a cli based browser to access the cups server.. you might also ask in #ubuntu-server .. unfortunately I've gotta afk..
[02:36] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Your card is supported by the STA driver, and the open source b43 driver (though a newer kernel than the one in 10.04 is recommended for b43)
[02:36] <aruj> I'd like to install a pastebin server for my intranet. Any suggestion?
[02:36] <Izinucs> greezmunkey: cups server is on a different machine.. being used as a print server ..
[02:36] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: localhost:631 does give me a page, but is that the page to configure printers connected to the server?
[02:36] <GTroy> lordeden, you might try it with the effects turned on
[02:36] <mohawkboi> GTroy I tried to install the software it came with under wine but it never detects the hardware. Logitech have not and will not supply a linux driver and I don't know how or if it is possible to install a windows driver.
[02:36] <randal> How do i make it when my windows open they open maximized
[02:36] <lordeden> gtroy: it won't let me turn effects on even tho I've installed the latest drivers from ATI
[02:37] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: hmm....that doesn't sound like good news. What should I do?
[02:37] <lordeden> I still haven't figured out why it won't
[02:37] <spaceace> I've got a 2TB drive that's purely for storing thousands of directories full of PDF documents roughly 1mb each. Will ext3 be fine?
[02:37] <daniel__> hello i am new to ubuntu and i would like to know how to install a program from tar.gz file
[02:37] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Most likely, yes, browse around administration...
[02:37] <GTroy> mohawkboi, try the driver inside wine
[02:37] <GTroy> at least that's what I'd try next
[02:37] <b3nn> hey guys i want to run a scrpit when the user FAILS to authenticate. hopefully someone can point me in the right direction?
[02:37] <anbr> folks, is libgphoto2 upstream the central hub for supporting webcams? are there other other projects trying to do that?
[02:37] <mohawkboi> GTroy Thanks I should have thought of that. Will run off and try that. Thanks again!
[02:37] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: The STA driver should work fine with the kernel you have, and if it doesn't it's not hard do install a newer kernel to use the b43 drivers
[02:37] <GTroy> lordeden, is your gf card strong enough for the effects
[02:37] <Zelozelos> daniel__, whats the program you want 2 install?
[02:37] <GTroy> mohawkboi, sure my pleasure
[02:38] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: your cups server can be used to connect to printers on other machines...
[02:38] <lordeden> gtroy, it was turned on in 9.10, i'm running an ATI raedon 4850 with 512meg
[02:38] <GTroy> lordeden, yeah, that's plenty powerful
[02:38] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: well it didn't work when I first installed Ubuntu last Friday, so on to step 2. How do I get b43 drivers/kernel?
[02:38] <Morell> Someone who has done an installation on one partition lvm?
[02:39] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: can it be used a print server?
[02:39] <GTroy> lordeden, can you print your xorg.conf to pastebin and pm it to me?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: You specifically enabled the STA driver from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[02:39] <lordeden> sure gtroy
[02:39] <ubuntu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487293 Would anyone be kind enough to read that over, and try to help?
[02:39] <clone1018> Hey
[02:39] <Zelozelos> ho
[02:39] <clone1018> Any known deadly bugs with Wubi 10.04
[02:40] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: I dont know all of the details of your config, but you can make a local printer available to the network as well.
[02:40] <clone1018> I remember last time I used it I always got the bash/grub whatever errors :D
[02:40] <Zelozelos> daniel__, ??
[02:40] <LUCIDementia> I see. I did, but now I'm enabling b43. I feel like I've done this many times before but it seems worth a shot
[02:40] <mattpat> I would just like to throw out a quick shoutout to the folks that make Ubuntu the terrific product it is: I'm a Mac user, and while I still prefer OS X, Ubuntu is perhaps the most beautiful operating system I've used, in every sense of the word (not just visually)
[02:40] <mattpat> :)
[02:40] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks, that's what i've been trying to do. but to no avail...
[02:41] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Make sure you disable the STA driver when using the b43 driver
[02:41] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: i believe it may be something to do with how i'm setting up the connection on the connection page.
[02:41] <LUCIDementia> it automatically turned grey when I enabled b43, but wireless still won't connect
[02:41] <GTroy> lordeden, paste it into pastebin.ca and give me the link
[02:41] <FatalIll> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487293 Would anyone be kind enough to read that over, and try to help?
[02:41] <lordeden> gtroy, got ya
[02:41] <GTroy> :D
[02:42] <arand_> GTroy: Unless you are absolutely certain you'll fix it, it's normally standard practice to post everything in channel, so that others can jump in should they have a clue ;)
[02:42] <MACscr_lappy> are the open source radeon drivers just prefered or do the properietery ones just not work at all with more than 2 monitors? Im trying to get 3 working correctly
[02:42] <GTroy> ya, good point arand
[02:42] <Izinucs> BigMacDawg: greezmunkey quick thought .. printer on the server has to be shared
[02:42] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: what clients will be printing, *nix or windows, etc? How is your network set up? You need to answer those. Write that up, and send it to http://paste.ubuntu.com - please.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: You can install the latest upstream kernel from here, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ . Be sure to install the linux-image package first.
[02:42] <GTroy> arand, I'm curious if the driver is selected in the x conf file
[02:43] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: many thanks...but honestly I have no idea what I'm looking at. Do I just click all these links?
[02:43] <tripps> Can I do a fresh install on top of an existing install or do I really need to move my hundreds of GB of data somewhere, reformat and install?
[02:43] <mohawkboi> GTroy, Problen... Running the executable for Windows drivers with Wine will not work under Linux, as Windows drivers are not designed for the Windows kernel. Wine is for applications only - you'll need Linux drivers for your hardware. There are no linux drivers available for the G25. Yet the Ubuntu 10.04 forums and the ubuntu updates all state the G25 is supported.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Are you using 32 bit Ubuntu or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[02:43] <lordeden> if pastebin.ca would show up i'd post it
[02:43] <Josesordo> hello all
[02:43] <LUCIDementia> 32
[02:43] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: 10.04?
[02:44] <LUCIDementia> yes. And I say 32 because I understand that that's the default
[02:44] <GTroy> mohawkboi, ok, I think it's plug and play
[02:44] <GTroy> mohawkboi, can you do a lsusb and see if it's recognized?
[02:45] <crankharder> how do I start/stop mysql in 10.4?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: First download this file and double click it to install it: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-image-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb then do the same with this file: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb
[02:45] <crankharder> #service mysql start <-- hanging forever, doesn't seem to start mysql
[02:45] <sickgut> for the life of me i cant get my nvidia geforce fx 5200 agp video working in lucid the 71. series drivers seems to be dropped
[02:45] <mohawkboi> Gtroy Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c299 Logitech, Inc. G25 Racing Wheel
[02:45] <GTroy> ok, so it's there
[02:45] <lordeden> gtroy, http://pastebin.com/e3Z8PgYP
[02:46] <GTroy> thanks lordeden
[02:46] <mohawkboi> Gtroy I think i need to find as GUI configuration program for it. I have tried joystic and no luck.
[02:46] <Morell> Someone who has done an installation on one partition lvm?
[02:46] <GTroy> mohawkboi, let me see if I can find something
[02:46] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey:here you go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/435855/
[02:46] <mohawkboi> GTroy thanks HEAPS. This had me stuck since Ubuntu 8 :-(
[02:47] <Vigo> Morell: Yes I have, using Debian Lenny.
[02:47] <GTroy> mohawkboi, do you have a dual screen without xinerama on?
[02:48] <Morell> Vigo, hello
[02:48] <look> what is the latest driver install for the Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[02:48] <Vigo> Morell: Hello
[02:48] <mohawkboi> Gtroy no I only have one screen.
[02:48] <look> and can i sudo apt-get it?
[02:49] <Morell> Vigo, I made a clean installation
[02:49] <psusi> look, eh?  you got a vostro v13 too? :)
[02:49] <daniel__> zelozelos sorry i was away... thank for your help...i would like to install clamAV
[02:49] <look> no i have an Acer TravelMate 4150 and need the drivers
[02:49] <GTroy> lordeden, does this look at all like any help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/help-get-g25-driving-force-pro-support-into-linux-629288/
[02:49] <Vigo> Morell: It is the same system, are you having any issues?
[02:50] <Josesordo> I installed the ATI drivers in ubuntu 10.04 LTS (.run file from ati web site), but in hardware drivers said is not activated, so I tried to activated but failed
[02:50] <psusi> look, ohh... wha tmakes you think you need any drivers?  everything worked out of the box for me on my dell vostro v13 with that same chipset
[02:50] <Morell> Vigo, Ubunrtu
[02:50] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: perfect timing, I had to go for a bit :)
[02:50] <Zelozelos> daniel__, Klam av? as in the antivirus software?
[02:50] <Trenton> boot manager for two drives containing Ubuntu 10.04lts and vista premium.
[02:50] <look> psusi, i need accelerated graphics
[02:50] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: the second link gave me an error message about dependency not being satisfied. Should I restart and try again?
[02:50] <psusi> look, yea... and?
[02:50] <Morell> Vigo, but I have my "/ home" in one partition "lvm"
[02:50] <look> psusi, the driver ubuntu has HAS NO SUPPORT FOR IT
[02:50] <daniel__> yes... but is klamAV the same as clamAV?
[02:50] <psusi> look, seems to work fine for me
[02:50] <lordeden> gtroy, that's for logictech drivers
[02:51] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Sorry, my fault. You need to install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic_2.6.34-020634_i386.deb first
[02:51] <GTroy> no help....I'm thinking 100% compatibility isn't here yet, but I could be wrong
[02:51] <look> psusi, can you render a 2d plane to give it pemumbra sighting and set it to revise to 3d but still be 2d? i could do it with windows
[02:51] <Zelozelos> idk, but Klam av is in the repo's ;) for real though, you dont need any antivirus for linux, you'd almost have 2 install the virus yourself b4 it could do any harm
[02:51] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: ok, you want to first make sure your printer is supported. I take it that you have not yet been able to send a print job to that printer locally?
[02:51] <Vigo> Morrel: Yes, Ubuntu , I have done it on Ubuntu also.
[02:51] <tripps> Jordan_U, booting off brand new CD of 10.04 "try without installing" freezes in the same spot it does off my install. this doesn't give me hope. I guess I'm going back to jackalope. All that for naught.
[02:51] <psusi> look, no idea what all that means, but the 3d compiz fancy effects all seem to work smoothly
[02:52] <look> psusi, that means nothing
[02:52] <mohawkboi> GTroy thats my thinking to. But thanks for your help :-)
[02:52] <nomaS> how can i disable , energy savin at server?
[02:52] <GTroy> mohawkboi, you've got the ati proprietary drivers in?
[02:52] <GTroy> errr
[02:52] <GTroy> sorry
[02:52] <tripps> Jordan_U, clearly does not recognize my graphics hardware
[02:52] <look> can anyone help me with getting the latest intel drivers for my Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[02:52] <mohawkboi> I have a Nvidia card
[02:52] <daniel__> zelozelos, yes that is the reason why i switched to Linux, but i would like to scan files before transferring them over to my windows install
[02:52] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, i haven't. but i have seen that the printer is recongnized (make and model) as being on the usb port.
[02:52] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: Same message. Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-headers-2.6.34-020634
[02:52] <GTroy> yeah, wrong person mohawkboi
[02:52] <voss749> zelo, I tried installing a virus on my linux laptop but I didnt have the necessary dependencies ;-)
[02:52] <Zelozelos> daniel__, ahh good reason 2 have one, klam does a good job
[02:52] <psusi> look, it means dri is working or the 3d stuff would be slow as balls
[02:52] <GTroy> lordeden, have you got the ati proprietary drivers in?
[02:53] <tripps> Seems canonical team really screwed the pooch with 10.04
[02:53] <Trenton> I am in need of finding a boot manager for two separate drives containing Ubuntu 10.04LTS and Windows Vista Premium both are 64 bit. If I go through the bios each time to change the hard drive boot sequence it messes with Vista. Any boot managers or tweaks to fix this problem?
[02:53] <Morell> Vigo, How to install "lvm"?
[02:53] <voss749> tripps how so?
[02:53] <mohawkboi> Gtroy all good lol
[02:53] <look> psusi, compiz works fine im useing cairo dock with it but i need to have the latest drivers
[02:53] <psusi> Morell, sudo apt-get install lvm2
[02:53] <look> psusi, if i dont then nothing works right for what i need to do
[02:53] <lordeden> gtroy, they are the ones off the website from my car
[02:53] <lordeden> card
[02:53] <Agu10> hi
[02:53] <look> psusi, i have to get some things in for school now can you help me get the drivers or not
[02:53] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Sorry again, pasted the wrong link: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634_2.6.34-020634_all.deb
[02:54] <tripps> voss749, can't even boot 10.04 CD image without locking up my computer. Doesn't like my Intel graphics chip I've been upgrading since feisty
[02:54] <psusi> look, if you're running the latest ubuntu, then you have them
[02:54] <Vigo> Morell: Here is a good one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216117
[02:54] <daniel__> zelozelos, do you know how to install this: http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/
[02:54] <look> .......
[02:54] <crankharder> any ideas why 'sudo service mysql start' is just hanging and not atually starting mysql server?
[02:54] <GTroy> lordeden, it sounds like fglrx aren't working..you said you got them to?
[02:54] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Does that printer have an ethernet port?
[02:54] <GTroy> lordeden, even with fglrx-control?
[02:54] <voss749> tripps, try booting in safe mode, I installed 10.04 just fine on my atom netbook
[02:55] <lordeden> gtroy, I installed them through the package manager
[02:55] <Morell> psusi, cómo instalo "lvm" desde el live cd?
[02:55] <tripps> voss749, I've been working on it for 12 hours now. no dice.
[02:55] <GTroy> lordeden, through synaptic, or the installed driver program?
[02:55] <lordeden> synaptic
[02:55] <Morell> psusi, how do I install "lvm" from the live cd?
[02:55] <psusi> Morell, my spanish isn't very good, but if I understood that correctly, if you have a network connection do ike I said and sudo apt-get install lvm2
[02:55] <voss749> tripps, It should work in vesa mode, thats not driver dependent
[02:56] <lordeden> I did the fix from this thread off the forum
[02:56] <lordeden> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466085&highlight=10.4+ati&page=2
[02:56] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, it does not
[02:56] <lordeden> post #20
[02:56] <GTroy> lordeden, have you installed them from System-->Administration-->Hardware drivers?
[02:56] <daniel__> zelozelos thanks i got it installed
[02:56] <Zelozelos> daniel__, it seems 2 be pretty str8 forward, did you check out the manual? it gives the instructions
[02:56] <tripps> I've been using linux since 1994, compiling custom kernels and going through all the paces. used *every* distro out there. I've never seen something as bad as this stupid upgrade. What a waste of a day.
[02:57] <Vigo> Morell: That is how it is done, usually, with LiveCD or at base install.
[02:57] <Zelozelos> ahh, np have fun then ;)
[02:57] <voss749> tripps, upgrading is always a bit dicey
[02:57] <z3r0-c001> #debian
[02:57] <lordeden> gtroy, it says ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX grahics drivers are running
[02:57] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more.
[02:58] <tripps> perhaps if ubuntu doesn't like or recognize my hardware, it should tell me before I upgrade "hey you've got hardware that doesn't quite work yet. wait til a future release."
[02:58] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I have now installed 3 packages. The first, the last, and the second ones you sent. Should I restart or is there more to do?
[02:58] <Zelozelos> heh upgrading is more then abit, more like 90% failure now, the other 9% will follow tripps
[02:58] <GTroy> lordeden, you tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[02:59] <GTroy> and you got fglrx to work?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Confirm that the STA driver is not activated, then reboot.
[02:59] <sirninja> my wired networking isn't working after a reboot
[02:59] <lordeden> it says that fglrx is not a broken package
[02:59] <xangua> __taco: in a terminal: nm-applet
[02:59] <lordeden> I've seen that page, it does the same thing as that forum post does
[02:59] <tripps> voss749 upgrading along the way since feisty without a hiccup on half a dozen machines. Now I'm scared to upgrade anything else on any of them. This leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.
[02:59] <lordeden> I uninstalled fglrx and installed a clean copy
[02:59] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: ok, have you dowloaded the cips .ppa driver package for your printer?
[03:00] <Morell> Vigo,  had my directory "/ home" in one "lvm"
[03:00] <greezmunkey> *cups, sorry
[03:00] <GTroy> lordeden, I don't think a broken package is the problem as much as it didn't get fully uninstalled/reinstalled
[03:00] <__taco> xangua: it say an instant is running
[03:00] <GTroy> lordeden, and so it's goofy with it
[03:00] <lordeden> so I shoudl try a command line removal and reinstall
[03:00] <Vigo> Morell: Do you mean /home?
[03:00] <gogeta> sweet i got samba working threw windows firewall
[03:01] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: no, i have not. how might i go about getting those?
[03:01] <GTroy> lordeden, yes, that is what I would do...I think that'll fix it
[03:01] <Morell> Vigo, yes my directory /home
[03:01] <__taco> xangua: in fact network management is working but i can't see the gui
[03:01] <GTroy> lordeden, follow the wiki guide
[03:01] <sirninja> How do I get my wired network working again after an update? Ubuntu isn't recognizing the device
[03:02] <lordeden> yeah I ran somethi g like this already, but I'll try it again
[03:02] <Morell> Vigo, I did a clean install, and now I can not access my directory "/ home"
[03:02] <lordeden> thanks gtroy
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, you followed it to the letter?
[03:02] <gogeta> sirninja: plug it in?
[03:02] <lordeden> from the thread I posted, yes
[03:02] <lordeden> not from the wiki
[03:02] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: look here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[03:02] <sirninja> gogeta: lol. it is
[03:02] <Theravadan> it's 2010, i put in a dvd to play it on 10.04 and it doesn't work, wtf?
[03:02] <crypt-0> i have a problem with UFW not allowing 2 IP adresses for the same port
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, rule of thumb is to use the wiki
[03:02] <GTroy> lordeden, over the forum
[03:03] <z3r0-c001> id ubuntu came from debian does that make debian better
[03:03] <lordeden> gtroy, heard
[03:03] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: "Download HPLIP"
[03:03] <gogeta> sirninja: click your networking icong and connect
[03:03] <z3r0-c001> if
[03:03] <tripps> I mean, how can a modern operating system not be able to boot up cleanly on a widely distributed/pervasive chipset? And I'm a linux enthusiast/hacker for 16 years. How is a lay person supposed to do this. I'll end my rant there. Had to vent. Hope someone at canonical is paying attention. Looking at the forums I'm not the only one by far, Perhaps I'll try another distro now. such a shame, really.
[03:03] <Josesordo> my home folder was apart, in another partition (ext3), so when I upgrade my old ubuntu to this new one 10.04, I set the mount point --> /home, so when installation finished I cant see my old files T_T
[03:03] <sirninja> gogeta: The device isn't getting recognized, all it says is "No network devices available"
[03:03] <jing> hello I try find out how make a completely customized ubuntu. is there tutorial for this?
[03:04] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks, actually, i think i may be doing that now. i was browsing the HP site and came across this and began the process. didn't know what it was called. thanks!
[03:04] <lordeden> gtroy, I got an error "Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:04] <lordeden>  fglrx
[03:04] <lordeden> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[03:04] <gogeta> sirninja: try a restart maybe the driver got updated
[03:04] <sirninja> gogeta; I've tried that. :(
[03:04] <IdleOne> !remaster | jing
[03:04] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: I had high hopes but still no luck. Any other ideas?
[03:04] <GTroy> ok, you sudo'd it lordeden?
[03:04] <GTroy> that sounds like your problem lordeden
[03:04] <Vigo> Morell: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm/ <have you looked at that?
[03:04] <jing> Xie Xie Idle one
[03:04] <lordeden> gtory, yes, copied straight from the wiki
[03:05] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[03:05] <IdleOne> jing: welcome
[03:05] <gogeta> sirninja: ok have you ran ifconfig eth0 up
[03:05] <gogeta> sirninja: sudo on that
[03:05] <lru> is there an easy way to recompile a source package in Ubuntu to force it to be static?
[03:05] <GTroy> lordeden, ok, I would try removing those thing from synaptic...not sure it'll work
[03:05] <GTroy> lordeden, but it's worth trying
[03:05] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Here's generic cups info (near top of page): http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-PhotoSmart_2600
[03:06] <GTroy> lordeden, this is from an upgrade? and not a clean install?
[03:06] <sirninja> gogeta: found the problem. Several kernel modules weren't being loaded for some reason
[03:06] <Vigo> Morell: And this one especially:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[03:06] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: thanks!
[03:06] <gogeta> sirninja: mayaybe its just the network manager
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> lru: have you taken a look at ./configure --help?
[03:06] <lordeden> gtoy, upgrade, it's looking like I might just have to wipe and do a clean install tommorow
[03:06] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: Anyway, once you get the printer working locally, you can share it via samba very easily, and viola! Printe Server.
[03:06] <lru> onetinsoldier: yep... I was hoping there was some deb setting I could use to build the binary package... configure doesn't seem to help me
[03:07] <lordeden> gtroy, it's not letting me uninstall from synaptic either
[03:07] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more, after I install b43 wireless and fglrx driver .
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> lru: there'll probably a '--enable-static' option in there
[03:07] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: Thanks! i'll give it a go!
[03:07] <gogeta> sirninja: lol i woulda got there evently i just go in order
[03:07] <GTroy> lordeden, that's your issue, you can't clean it out
[03:07] <lru> onetinsoldier: yep, but that seems to be for libraries :-(
[03:07] <aombk> hi people. i have a question to ask. does the mark/model of the soundcard play any part in audio latency? i mean, in order to lower audio latency, can buying a specific sound card help?
[03:07] <sirninja> gogeta: thanks for helping anyway. :P
[03:07] <lru> onetinsoldier: the app still shows libraries when viewed with 'ldd'
[03:07] <__taco> I can't find Network Management icon any more, after I install b43 wireless and fglrx driver . any help?
[03:08] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435866/  If you can fix this I feel like I should send you some payment through paypal or something. Seriously, there's a hell of a lot of text there that you're sorting through for me
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> lru: roger. i'm must admit, i'm not sure. for what package is this?
[03:08] <lordeden> gtroy, thanks for the help, i'll get started on that tommorow, gf is giving me dirty looks, her show is over
[03:08] <jrr> anyone else failing to resume from suspend with 10.04?
[03:08] <greezmunkey> BigMacDawg: I'll work in a few bars of blues bass while I wait.
[03:08] <lru> onetinsoldier: glabels... which is going to turn the app into a monster, with all the dependencies it has, but I need it
[03:08] <BigMacDawg> greezmunkey: lol, sure thing.
[03:08] <GTroy> lordeden, keep at it, it should be an easy fix looking back upon it
[03:09] <Vigo> __taco: Did you try hover mouse over the panel, Right Click>Add to Panel?
[03:09] <gogeta> __taco: you can configure it from your system > pref > network conections
[03:09] <lordeden> gtroy, there most likely is, but I need to wipe this drive anyway, wine stopped working on me as it is
[03:09] <gogeta> __taco: if the applet has failed for some reasion
[03:09] <th5418> hi guys
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> lru: well, i could try to download it and see if i can see a way to enable static, but i probably won't be able to figure out much more than you have. anyway, i recommend you keep asking the main channel the question
[03:09] <th5418> how can i reinstall my ubuntu, i just want to reinstall the OS!
[03:09] <lru> onetinsoldier: am I in the main channel? :-)
[03:09] <GTroy> lordeden, I was going to say a clean install takes around 20 minutes total
[03:10] <Vigo> __taco: Or what gorgeta said, that is a clean way also.
[03:10] <gogeta> th5418: insert the live cd
[03:10] <__taco> Vigo: can't find network management .
[03:10] <GTroy> lordeden, longer than we've been at this problem
[03:10] <GTroy> lordeden, we've been at this problem longer
[03:10] <th5418> gogeta: i have the 10.04 live cd, but it doesnt let me just wipe out my old ubuntu
[03:10] <lordeden> gtroy, yeah, but got to spend time with the SO before bed, it will have to wait til tommorow
[03:10] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I tried to install the headers again, but it still says I can't
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> lru: yes... what i mean is, keep aksing the question in here, like every five minutes.
[03:11] <tripps> ok wait just a second. booting from the livecd by adding i915.modeset=1 as a boot parameter works. hrrmph. So KMS definitely is not enabled by default, Jordan_U
[03:11] <lru> onetinsoldier: ahh, thanks
[03:11] <GTroy> lordeden, good luck, get some rest
[03:11] <__taco> gogeta: infact Network management is running
[03:11] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Well, it seems to have associated with an access point at least. Can you pastebin the output of "iwlist scan"?
[03:11] <Vigo> __taco: Have you ever used Main Menu?
[03:11] <lordeden> gtroy, thanks, i'll most likely be here tommorow, later
[03:11] <gogeta> th5418: when it gets to the partating part of the install slect manual then check the format box in gparted for your linux part you will whip old ubuntu
[03:11] <gogeta> whipe
[03:12] <Jordan_U> tripps: Odd, it really should be. Could you file a bug report?
[03:12] <th5418> gogeta: won't that just wipe out my whole drive?
[03:12] <Vigo> gogeta: I liked the first one,
[03:12] <__taco> Vigo: how to open Main Menu?
[03:12] <gogeta> th5418: just the partation you slect to format
[03:12] <xangua> __taco: do you have notification area in the panel¿¿
[03:12] <th5418> gogeta: crap, i guess this time ill be smart and partition my drives
[03:13] <Vigo> __taco: System>Preferences>Main Menu
[03:13] <tripps> Jordan_U, apparently known already - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[03:13] <Jordan_U> tripps: If you install from that session it should add i915.modeset=1 to the configuration of the installed system, or of course just edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub from the recovery shell
[03:13] <gogeta> th5418: you said you whanted to reinstall everything
[03:14] <gogeta> th5418: if you used auto last time it probly also made a /home partation so your stuff in /home whont get formated you just wanna format the / partation
[03:14] <th5418> gogeta: i just want to reinstall the OS
[03:14] <tripps> Jordan_U, I'll try the latter first
[03:14] <th5418> gogeta: there is only one partition
[03:15] <__taco> xangua: no. i can't see the icon any more. at the begin network management icon in there.
[03:15] <gogeta> th5418: oh you didnt make a /home
[03:15] <Ubantu_dude> Ahh the Ubuntu chat, I havent been here in ages
[03:15] <th5418> gogeta: if i partition my drives, will it make /home in the other partition
[03:16] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435871/
[03:16] <Ubantu_dude> So Urbantu had a new release, does this mean Linux isnt completely useless on the desktop anymore?
[03:16] <gogeta> th5418: make 2 ext4 partation / doesent need to be very large thats where the os and apps get stored then for the second ext4 the mount point make it /home
[03:16] <th5418> gogeta: about how big should 1st partition be?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !ot > Ubantu_dude
[03:16] <gogeta> th5418: 10gb should be plenty
[03:16] <__taco> gogeta:network conections can configure wireless ?
[03:17] <Ubantu_dude> How was my question off topic?
[03:17] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: it isn't support related
[03:17] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Well, networks are being detected. That's a good sign. Are they showing up in the network-manager applet? If so, what happens when you try to connect to one?
[03:17] <tripps> Jordan_U, what would you say to installing from livecd ontop of existing ext3 partition? data backed up of course. Should it leave my /home directory alone?
[03:17] <gogeta> th5418: then of course make a swap
[03:17] <Ubantu_dude> So where should I ask questions about Urbantu then?
[03:17] <gogeta> th5418: if it doesent aruldy have one
[03:17] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: it spins for about 30 seconds then says Wireless Network Disconnected. It shows full strength though, and worked just fine before I deleted Windows
[03:18] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: first off I don't know what Urbantu is but I know this is Ubuntu support channel
[03:18] <iflema> Ubantu_dude maybe in #urbantu......
[03:18] <gogeta> th5418: you should have a total on 3 parts swap 1gb is plenty / 10 gb /home rest
[03:18] <xangua> __taco: if you do not have notification area, then add it........
[03:18] <gogeta> th5418: to make a swap when it ask for fs type slect swap
[03:19] <Vigo> Ubantu_dude: And that is off-topic, /join #off-topic
[03:19] <gogeta> th5418: then when you wanna reinstall a os you dont have to format home
[03:19] <tripps> Jordan_U, no such file /etc/default/grub
[03:19] <Ubantu_dude> I asked about the latest release and that is off-topic
[03:19] <crazy7> how do I mount an ecrypted user directory?
[03:19] <Ubantu_dude> crazy7: prob. with mount
[03:19] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: you asked about Urbantu. what is urbantu?
[03:20] <Ubantu_dude> I believe Urbantu has something to do with Loonix
[03:20] <gogeta> th5418: if you ever need more space for apps you can always resize them later
[03:20] <__taco> xangua : have otification area, have volume controller icon there.
[03:20] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: ok here is a link you can read Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and channel topics
[03:20] <greezmunkey> Ubantu_dude: Welcome Back! ;-)
[03:20] <xangua> __taco: volume control is now part of indicator applet, add notification area
[03:20] <Vigo> IdleOne: Thank you.
[03:20] <greezmunkey> heh
[03:20] <Ubantu_dude> Do I know you greezmunkey?
[03:21] <th5418> gogeta: should i make my OS my 'primary' or my 'logical'
[03:21] <gogeta> th5418: primary
[03:21] <__taco> __taco: gogeta:network conections can configure wireless ? I don't know how to scan wireless with network conections.
[03:21] <gogeta> th5418: linux doesent relly care
[03:21] <gogeta> __taco: yes it can
[03:21] <greezmunkey> No man. It's simple, Ubuntu support here, anything else #ubuntu-offtopic (a place to chill whilst you wait for a Q to be answered.
[03:22] <Jordan_U> tripps: Ahh, you aren't automatically upgraded to grub2 even though it's the default since 9.10.
[03:22] <gogeta> __taco: just slect the wireless tab
[03:22] <crazy7> ok, so, I reinstalled Ubuntu without reformatting. There was an encrypted user directory for a differently named user already there. Is there any way to mount that?
[03:22] <__taco> gogeta: how use it to scan wireless networking ?
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> lru: hi. i downloaded the source and did an apt-get build-dep glables. but i'm not quite familiar with how the patch is delivered. i used to there just being a '.diff' file
[03:23] <Omen_20> Anyone know if the MeMenu will eventually show what broadcast accounts are active in gwibber?
[03:23] <lfitz> hi, i am having trouble getting eclipse and android sdk to work on 10.04 64-bit... has anyone here got this working?
[03:23] <gogeta> __taco: you dont relly need to fill in all the info just the ssid and key will work fine
[03:23] <Jordan_U> tripps: To do it with grub legacy edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. You need to edit the line that starts "# defoptions=" (but don't uncomment it, it's not actually a comment)
[03:23] <Jordan_U> tripps: Then run update-grub
[03:23] <tripps> Jordan_U, how to upgrade to grub2?
[03:23] <Ubantu_dude> Ok fine I have a question, how do I do load balancing across two T1 connections on hdlc0 and hdlc1?
[03:23] <__taco> gogeta: thanks very much. I will try it tonight.
[03:23] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:24] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: you want #networking
[03:24] <Ubantu_dude> Ok let me ask a serious question then
[03:24] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: please don't troll.
[03:24] <psusi> Ubantu_dude, get a fancy cisco router and talk to your isp providing you with both connections... better yet, upgrade to a fractional t3
[03:24] <gogeta> __taco: the audo may be confliting with your applet sometime just deleting the old settings from there will make it work again
[03:24] <Ubantu_dude> I dont want a DS3 I want 3.08 Mbps
[03:24] <greezmunkey> Ubantu_dude: man mlppp
[03:24] <IdleOne> psusi: don't feed
[03:25] <Jordan_U> tripps: sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You will be offered the choice to have grub2 loaded from grub legacy to confirm everything works, if you choose to do that you can run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" to actually replace grub legacy with grub2.
[03:25] <Ubantu_dude> Why does bonding only support ethernet?
[03:25] <gogeta> __taco: old
[03:25] <psusi> sorry, just tabbed in for a second and saw what looked like an interesting question... back to working on e2defrag I guess...
[03:25] <greezmunkey> yikes
[03:25] <Ubantu_dude> I know I can trick the hdlc driver to bridge frame relay devices with the pvceth interface but it doesnt work for bonding, why not
[03:25] <__taco> gogeta: what old setting?
[03:25] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: I am going to ask you one more time to remain on topic for this channel.
[03:26] <gogeta> __taco: your wireless settings get sotred in that app
[03:26] <gogeta> sotred
[03:26] <gogeta> stored
[03:26] <Ubantu_dude> So I my networking questions that I have while using ubuntu I cant ask in the ubuntu chat?
[03:26] <shig> my Ubuntu 10.04 64bit is not automouting iPods since install. Flashdrives work OK, but iPods are recognized in "lsusb", but not automounted. Can anybody help me?
[03:26] <IdleOne> psusi: you can help if you like but take it to another channel. it is not ubuntu related so will just cause extra scroll in here.
[03:26] <__taco> gogeta: how to get rid of it , i can't see the gui of it .
[03:27] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: have we come to a dead end?
[03:27] <gogeta> __taco: same place i told you to go
[03:27] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: correct, because you netwroking question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:27] <Ubantu_dude> So ubuntu doesnt support networking anymore?
[03:27] <__taco> network connection?
[03:27] <__taco> gogeta:network connection?
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> Ubantu_dude: have you tried asking in #networking?
[03:28] <daniel__> anyone know how to install i386 software on 64 bit ubuntu 10.04
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: sometimes that can be a unrealible scriipt
[03:28] <mattpat> IdleOne: I am infinitely impressed by your long-standing patience on that one
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: wicd is a good alt
[03:28] <gogeta> __taco: if you wanna gui script
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: you just download the 32-bit installer for ubuntu. or, if your running 64-bit ubuntu, install the 32-bit libraries/environment
[03:29] <th5418> gogeta
[03:29] <th5418> are you still there
[03:29] <gogeta> th5418: always
[03:29] <th5418> gogeta: i should have a 1gb swap?
[03:29] <gogeta> th5418: yea should be plenty
[03:29] <daniel__> onetinsoldier could you show me how to do that... im new to ubuntu
[03:29] <Jordan_U> LUCIDementia: Probably. See if you can connect to the unsecured wireless network though. (I suspect the problem is with authentication)
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: just close to it it whont be excat
[03:30] <th5418> gogeta: my 10gb with the main on it, should it be /home or /usr or what
[03:30]  * greezmunkey watches Ubantu-dude diss us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <th5418> my other 'crap' of stuff is just /home right
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: it should be / for the mount point
[03:30] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: my network is not password protected
[03:30] <xiambax> So today I bought a Quadcore iMac i7 but am having issues installing ubuntu via Parallels
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: that justmeans root
[03:30] <th5418> gogeta: what should the 1gb be for the mount point
[03:30] <xiambax> I get an i/o error when booting to iso
[03:30] <gogeta> th5418: none just file system type swap
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: okm you want o install 32-bit version of ubuntu? is that correct?
[03:31] <trippsss> how important is it to upgrade to grub2? what features does it have that I'll miss out on?
[03:31] <th5418> gogeta: with 10.04, there's a choice for swap area, i guess that's it?
[03:31] <LUCIDementia> Jordan_U: another problem is that my dvd player isn't working, so I haven't put any of my files back on. So if reinstalling would help that wouldn't be a problem. I'd just need to know what to do after
[03:31] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I tried to install the headers again, but it still says I can't
[03:31] <daniel__> onetinsoldier i just want to be able to install a program that is 32 bit architechture
[03:31] <Docteh> trippsss: its more complicated ;)
[03:31] <xiambax> Anyone have any idea?
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: or are you wanting to install the 32-bit library/environment?
[03:31] <gogeta> th5418: you aruldy have swap then dont need another
[03:32] <th5418> gogeta: im still trying to figure out the mount point for my 1gb of space for swap
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: ok, try --> sudp aptitude install ia32-libs
[03:32] <gogeta> th5418: there isnt one
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: ok, try --> sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[03:32] <Docteh> th5418: swap doesn't get mounted
[03:32] <th5418> thanks
[03:32] <trippsss> Docteh: so it sounds like I should leave it well enough alone, eh? ;)
[03:32] <Jordan_U> trippsss: There is not much change unless you heavily customize things, or want to use more advanced features or grub2 like booting from isos.
[03:32] <th5418> gogeta: hmm, it says "no root system is defined"
[03:32] <__taco> gogeta: Network management seems more friendlily.
[03:32] <daniel__> onetinsoldier ok there
[03:33] <crazy7> god ecryptfs is complicated
[03:33] <trippsss> Jordan_U: gotcha
[03:33] <gogeta> th5418: did you set the mount point / for the 10 gb
[03:33] <th5418> gogeta: oh i see, thanks, im stuid
[03:34] <Docteh> trippsss: versions after lucid might not have scripts to update grub1 menu configs
[03:34] <gogeta> th5418: then your remaning space the mount point will be /home
[03:34] <gogeta> th5418: also ext4
[03:34] <trippsss> Docteh: I SEE
[03:34] <daniel__> onetinsoldier anything else?
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: i don't think so... try it
[03:35] <shig> my Ubuntu 10.04 64bit is not automouting iPods since install. Flashdrives work OK, but iPods are recognized in "lsusb", but not automounted. Even if I mount with "sudo mount", Rhythmbox doesn't see it. Can anybody help me? Ubuntu 9.10 used to recognize my iPod.
[03:35] <gogeta> th5418: heh i always install threw manul mode being i dont trust the auto so im used to it
[03:36] <th5418> gogeta: if i load 10.04 with the 'trial' can i access my harddrives?
[03:36] <Jordan_U> th5418: Yes.
[03:36] <edbian> th5418, Yes
[03:36] <daniel__> no it didnt work... it says Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[03:36] <LUCIDementia> Can someone help me connect with wireless internet? I have lucid lynx and a problem that's stumped everyone
[03:36] <gogeta> th5418: yes the os will see it has your /homre folder and thats where anything you saves goes
[03:37] <crazy7> ok, so, I reinstalled Ubuntu without reformatting. There was an encrypted user directory for a differently named user already there. Is there any way to mount that to get out the data?
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: what .deb package is this?
[03:37] <th5418> gogeta: sweet, i want to save my .bash, thanks jordan and edbian
[03:37] <trippsss> Reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 it does look like grub2 has cool features, namely booting isos up and better graphic menus/splash capabilities
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: give me a lin to download it
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: give me a link* to download it
[03:37] <edbian> th5418, You can save your entire ~/.*
[03:37] <daniel__> avast antivirus from here
[03:37] <daniel__> http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab4
[03:38] <Pelo> I have to use sudo with  hddtemp,   any suggestion on how to make it so I don'T need password
[03:38] <edbian> daniel__, You probably have already heard this but running routine virus scans really isn't necessary on linux.
[03:38] <gogeta> edbian: he whant to fresh install but didnt have a partating like that now he does
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: roger. sorry, i would help, but i'm not going to try to install that
[03:38] <edbian> gogeta, Gotcha
[03:38] <gogeta> edbian: now he will be able tofresh install without losing data
[03:38] <edbian> gogeta, Yep
[03:39] <daniel__> edbian yes, but i would like to scan files before transfering them to my windows install
[03:39] <Ubantu_dude> Hey I should prob. be banned from here as well
[03:39] <Ubantu_dude> you know, cover all the bases
[03:39] <edbian> daniel__, Gotcha
[03:39] <th5418> on trial, how do i access my original /home?
[03:39] <th5418> or what's the pwd for it
[03:40] <Jordan_U> trippsss: Booting from iso is particularly nice if you want to follow development releases. You can keep the daily iso up to date with zsync, only downloading the changes (or use testdrive which is basically a nice front end to zsync and qemu). Then boot from the iso file without burning it, so you can easily try the latest daily iso every day :)
[03:40] <gogeta> daniel__: avast has a linux version now free to
[03:40] <shapshift3r> ive created a wee binary script called encrypt, ive put it in /usr/bin and if i cd /usr/bin and then run it like 'encrypt password' it works fine.  if i try to run it from anywhere else using /usr/bin/encrypt password encrypt isnt found.
[03:40] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: provided you stay on topic and don't use foul language you can stay.
[03:40] <shapshift3r> I thought by putting it in /usr/bin it would be in my path?
[03:40] <daniel__> gogeta yes and i am trying to install it on ubuntu 64 bit but i cant
[03:40] <trippsss> Jordan_U: ah pretty slick
[03:40] <edbian> shapshift3r, Side note: you should probably but it in /usr/local/bin
[03:40] <un214> unless you changed your path it would be
[03:41] <un214> however you need to issue hash command if you tried command before
[03:41] <edbian> shapshift3r, Than you can just "encrypt" at the cli  regardless of where you are
[03:41] <Ubantu_dude> shapshifter: echo $PATH
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: you peobly will need the ia32-libs
[03:41] <Ubantu_dude> make sure it is in your path
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: i already had him install that
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: i dont think they have a 64bit installer
[03:41] <daniel__> gogeta could you help me install that
[03:41] <gogeta> daniel__: whats the error
[03:41] <crazy7> sigh now even my reinstall won't boot up
[03:42] <daniel__> gogeta, it says Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[03:42] <gogeta> daniel__: heh
[03:42] <Ubantu_dude> why are the mirrors so slow right now
[03:43] <IdleOne> Ubantu_dude: try changing mirrors
[03:43] <daniel__> do you think it may be necessary to reboot before the i386 architecture comes into effect
[03:43] <un214> yes; however that might be a non-boot
[03:44] <Jon--> Looking to install ZSNES (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zsnes), but I get "Package zsnes is not available, but is referred to by another package."  Does this mean that there is no package for 10.04? Does it work with Wine or another alternative? What do other people use for SNES emulators?
[03:44] <brax> I'm worried. For some reason, I cannot enable wireless networking with the panel icon. It's grayed out. :C
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: no. the 32-bit install is effective immediately upon installation
[03:44] <brax> Jon--: There are many other emulators that cover snes in the repositories.
[03:44] <greezmunkey> brax: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces? (paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[03:44] <th54181> is there a fix for this 10.04 nouveau and nvidia crisis yet?
[03:44] <gogeta> daniel__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781251
[03:44] <th54181> i've messed up my ubuntu OS like 3x
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: the 32-bit lib package is effective immediately upon installation
[03:45] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  Run apt-get update, I installed zsnes not to long ago on htpc and it went fine
[03:45] <daniel__> onetinsoldier ok
[03:45] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: I did, still get no install candidate.
[03:45] <Axident> Please help! Some one please tell me the secret about installing Ubuntu. I tryed to make partitions my self from live, and then start installation from both live desktop and cd. I also tryed to let Ubuntu installation use the complete hdd. Every time with same result at mounting the swap partition. It fail. Maybe I have to mention I have two hdd installed in my pc. Dev0 for windows and dev!
[03:45] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: just ran apt-get install zsnes and it ran fine for me
[03:45] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[03:46] <Axident> Please help! Some one please tell me the secret about installing Ubuntu. I tryed to make partitions my self from live, and then start installation from both live desktop and cd. I also tryed to let Ubuntu installation use the complete hdd. Every time with same result at mounting the swap partition. It fail. Maybe I have to mention I have two hdd installed in my pc. Dev0 for windows and dev1 for Ubuntu!
[03:46] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: maybe just get the deb and install it with dpkg
[03:46] <gogeta> daniel__: looks like using force works line
[03:46] <Reign25> Jordan_U: You there?
[03:46] <th54181> Does anybody know whether or not there is a good fix for the 10.04 nouveau and nvidia driver clash? I'm reinstalling a new 10.04 now since the old one.. i messed up
[03:46] <trippsss> Jordan_U: I suppose you would still be able to boot from those isos in grub2 even if they're located on a partition that is hibernated, so long as that partition is set to ro?
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: when it comes to anti-virus, i think it would be interesting to see if you could get 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit system, but i think that in the end, most likely, there's no way to get it installed on a 64-bit system
[03:47] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: See http://pastebin.org/251538  Trust me, not working :P
[03:47] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  I believe you, let me dig into it for a second
[03:47] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[03:47] <th54181> gogeta: are you gone :[
[03:47] <gogeta> th54181: no
[03:47] <Nilos> Need help connecting a wireless adapter on a machine not currently connected to the internet
[03:48] <th54181> gogeta: i have a question, when i install apps, is it going to go into the '/' partition or the '/home' partition
[03:48] <gogeta> th54181: they go to /
[03:48] <Jordan_U> trippsss: Yes, but I'd be carefull. You have to be sure that the live Distro doesn't use the swap partition either.
[03:48] <daniel__> gogeta thanks but it says it is not found ... i followed the instructions...well i have to go now, thank you all for your help
[03:48] <un214>  /
[03:49] <ripdisk> someone please tell me how to stop my old geforce drivers to stop loading
[03:49] <ripdisk> because i'm trying to use a radeon now
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: what Ubantu_dude said... find the .deb file for it and download it. then use 'dpkg' command to install the .deb file you downloaded
[03:49] <Jordan_U> trippsss: Some live Distros, like grml, have a "phorensic" boot option that takes care of assuring all that.
[03:49] <daniel__> thanks everyone goodbye
[03:49] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: take care
[03:49] <gogeta> th54181: you can always resize / later if 10gb isnt enough but it should be
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> daniel__: good luck :-)
[03:49] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: See http://pastebin.org/251538  Trust me, not working :P
[03:49] <trippsss> Jordan_U: gotcha
[03:50] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: Sorry, accidently hit up arrow
[03:50] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: where would I find the deb?
[03:50] <th54181> gogeta: thanks, im just worried about messing up my OS crap, ive messed with it one too many times trying to deal with this nvidia/nouveau mess that came with 10.04
[03:50] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: i don't think this matters too much, but what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:50] <gogeta> th54181: well now if you do anything in home is safe
[03:50] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: 10.04
[03:51] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[03:51] <jnfuller> I'm having a serious problem with getting vlans set up in lucid that worked in the last lts
[03:51] <jnfuller> I'm on an hp dl360 platform using bnx2
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: roger.. hang on a moment
[03:52] <jnfuller> It seems like the configs that used to work are hopelessly broken now
[03:52] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I tried to install the headers again, but it still says I can't
[03:52] <kahoot> ripdisk: have you tried blacklisting the driver?
[03:52] <Axident> Will someone please help me installing ubuntu?
[03:52] <jnfuller> Has something drastically changed with the way vlans are configured?
[03:52] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: looking at your paste bin you seem to have all the repos enabled
[03:52] <edbian> Axident, I would love nothing more than to help you! :)
[03:52] <edbian> Axident, How far have you gotten?
[03:53] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: I do, and no package for zsnes
[03:53] <Smeh> so.. before i give up on this machine and just buy an entirely new motherboard, anyone care to help me with a 9.10 install issue?
[03:53] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/zsnes
[03:53] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: you are on lucid though but all of my HTPCs and server run karmic so that may be why I have no problems but you do
[03:53] <Smeh> I'm trying to create a softraid array in 9.10 using palimpsest but when i try and create the array is just reports "the daemon is inhibited". The installer partitioner doesn't seem to want to give me the option of creating a softraid so i don't know what to do..
[03:53] <jing> !remaster
[03:53] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: There is no x64 architecture. Is this my issue?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You need to install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/linux-headers-2.6.34-020634_2.6.34-020634_all.deb first
[03:54] <th54181> Does anybody know if there is a fix to this Nouveau and Nvidia driver issue that came with Lucid/10.04? Any help would be much appreciated!
[03:54] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[03:54] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--: that could be a problem
[03:54] <Axident> edbina: look at this: I tryed to make partitions my self from live, and then start installation from both live desktop and cd. I also tryed to let Ubuntu installation use the complete hdd. Every time with same result at mounting the swap partition. It fail. Maybe I have to mention I have two hdd installed in my pc. Dev0 for windows and dev1 for Ubuntu!
[03:54] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: there's the link for it, but i think maybe you have /etc/apt/sources.list problem. you should be able to just install it with apt-get/aptitude/synaptic command really
[03:54] <Docteh> whats palimpsest?
[03:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: OH! Ok. Thank you
[03:54] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You're welcome.
[03:54] <Smeh> disk manager?
[03:54] <edbian> Axident, You misspelled my name ;)
[03:54] <Docteh> oic
[03:54] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: could be.. hang on a moment again
[03:54] <Reign25> Jordan_U: I then proceed to install the i386?
[03:54] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: See my last reply. It may be because it only supports x86
[03:54] <kahoot> ripdisk: have you tried blacklisting the driver? or am I misunderstanding your problem?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Yes.
[03:54] <Axident> sorry
[03:54] <Nilos> Can anyone recommend a generic driver that I can use for a wireless network adapter? (Note:The machine with linux is currently not connected to the internet0
[03:55] <Docteh> Smeh: is that in the installer? or after?
[03:55] <Smeh> it's on the temp "livecd" ubuntu the installer runs under i guess
[03:55] <ripdisk> kahoot, i used to have a geforce and i switched my card.. but the geforce driver keeps loading so ubuntu won't load any other drivers
[03:55] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: yep... that's a problem
[03:55] <Docteh> Nilos: theres nothing like ne2000 for wireless cards btw
[03:55] <Jordan_U> Nilos: There are no generic wireless drivers, they're all vendor/chipset specific
[03:55] <edbian> Axident, Try booting with only 1 hdd connected.  Then Try installing with only one of the hdds connected.  Does it get stuck at mounting swap?  Does it give any errors?
[03:55] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: I really really like ZSNES for emulators. Is Wine my only option now?
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: i even have the 32-bit libs installed and it won't install in my 64-bit Lucid... no installation candidate found. which means, it's not in the 64-bit repos
[03:56] <Docteh> Smeh: are you creating partitions and marking them for soft raid?
[03:56] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  You could roll the dice and compile it
[03:56] <th54181> Does anybody know if there is a fix to this Nouveau and Nvidia driver issue that came with Lucid/10.04? Any help would be much appreciated!
[03:56] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  Then again I am almost positive zsnes relies on nasm which may be an issue
[03:57] <Smeh> I have 2 blank disks. they're not partitioned yet, no. that is supposed to happen as part of the install process surely
[03:57] <ripdisk> kahoot, are we on the same page then? what's blacklisting
[03:57] <acerimmer> th54181: according to the full circle magazine podcast, NO
[03:57] <gogeta> onetinsoldier: sudo dpkg --force-architecture  should bypass 32bit checks on installer debs
[03:57] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: onetinsoldier: Found a .tar.bz from zsnes website. a ./configure had the line "Configure complete, now type 'make' and pray."  Nice touch. I'll give it a try
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: sure, looks like that would install it, yes. but will it run? ;-)
[03:57] <gogeta> onetinsoldier: worth a try isnt it
[03:57] <Jon--> Gah!
[03:57] <Docteh> Smeh: I wouldn't trust an operating system installer with anything, they're always braindead ;)
[03:58] <kahoot> ripdisk: blacklisting is simply stopping a driver from starting up on boot.. I'm not sure if it would help or not
[03:58] <Jon--> onetinsoldier: Ubantu_dude: "tools/fileutil.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set"  Damnit.
[03:58] <gogeta> onetinsoldier: with ia21 installed it should
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: perhaps it is.. but i doubt it will work. nothing ventured nothing gained though, so worth a shot i suppose
[03:58] <gogeta> ia32
[03:58] <Smeh> Well, I am trying to manually create the softraid via palimpsest, but not having any luck
[03:58] <Smeh> don't know how to do it via the CLI
[03:58] <kahoot> ripdisk: there is a script file somewhere to do it, but I can't remember the directory..
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> Jon--: :-(
[03:58] <ripdisk> oh ok
[03:58] <ripdisk> maybe someone else can help me
[03:58] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  You may have to try an alt. like Zsnes or Raine
[03:58] <ripdisk> it seems like it would be simple
[03:58] <laughter> onetinsoldier: i love that song
[03:58] <Ubantu_dude> err snes9x
[03:58] <ripdisk> all i'm doing is changing my video cards
[03:59] <ripdisk> i don't see why ubuntu is doing this
[03:59] <Docteh> Smeh: try manually creating partitions for software raid inside the installer and see if that helps
[03:59] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: I will try Wine first. I love ZSNES
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: see my previous message to Jon--
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> gogeta: i even have the 32-bit libs installed and it won't install in my 64-bit Lucid... no installation candidate found. which means, it's not in the 64-bit repos
[03:59] <Smeh> Docteh : it doesn't give me that option, at all
[03:59] <gogeta> Jon--: then you pc is not 64bit
[03:59] <Jon--> gogeta: It is
[03:59] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[03:59] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Now that I have the headers, did you want me to do anything after that?
[03:59] <ripdisk> and i can't try to run any other drivers
[03:59] <ripdisk> please help, this is annoying
[03:59] <Axident> edbian: Only that it failed by trying to mount a filesystem with the type swap and tha i can continue from the partitions menu.
[03:59] <gogeta> Jon--: then you have to manuly download the deb and run sudo dpkg --force-architecture -
[03:59] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  Any real reason you are stuck on zsnes?
[04:00] <Smeh> in the partitioner i can make the 2 disks ext4/3/2 reiserFS etc, no mention of softraid and it whinges if i don't select a root location on either sda1 or sdb1
[04:00] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Do you have the linux-image package installed?
[04:00] <Jon--> Ubantu_dude: Used to hotkeys/interface and it plays ROMs much more stable than other ones Ihave tried
[04:00] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Yes.
[04:00] <Docteh> Smeh: is that text mode or graphical
[04:00] <Ubantu_dude> Jon--:  Ok just curious
[04:01] <Smeh> graphical
[04:01] <gogeta> Jon--: if thers no 64 bit package
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Reboot, if devices still aren't being detected please run "ubuntu-bug" to file a bug report.
[04:01] <Reign25> ok thank you
[04:02] <Jordan_U> Reign25: You're welcome.
[04:02] <edbian> Axident, Did you try to boot without that second drive connected?  Is it formatted as swap?
[04:02] <kahoot> ripdisk: This is all I could find, maybe it's a start anyway. the blacklist directory is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:03] <Reign25> Jordan_U: Something just popped up when I booted up this time. It was different. It said something about "sdb write through"
[04:03] <gogeta> onetinsoldier: you can try the same command with apt-get i guess and it should download
[04:04] <Axident> edbian: my first hdd has only windows and the second hdd must have the complete Linux system
[04:05] <gogeta> Axident: so whats the problem
[04:05] <Izinucs> does ephinay (sp?) show contacts that are online?
[04:05] <edbian> gogeta, It hangs on "mounting swap"
[04:06] <kahoot> I have a question.. Sometimes when a game/program starts it starts at a lower resolution than ubuntu supports and I get a "screen resolution out of range" from my moniter. What can I do to restrict the resolution or somehow fix the problem?
[04:06] <edbian> Axident, Is the swap partition formatted as swap?
[04:06] <gogeta> edbian: i say delete swap and make a new one maybe it got cruppted
[04:06] <edbian> gogeta, Axident Worth a shot.
[04:06] <gogeta> edbian: rember the filesystem type must be swap
[04:06] <gogeta> edbian: no mount point
[04:07] <edbian> gogeta, Tell Axident It's his problem
[04:07] <Jordan_U> kahoot: Often games will have a command line option to set the resolution.
[04:07] <Axident> Gogeta its not the problem
[04:07] <gogeta> Axident: or just reformat swap
[04:08] <gogeta> Axident: sounds cruppted to me
[04:08] <Jordan_U> kahoot: If you can't do that, you can run another X server within a window with xephyr (so if an app running in xephyr tries to set the resolution, it will only change the size of the window)
[04:08] <gogeta> Axident: reformating it the gparted will clear any data on it
[04:09] <Nilos> Can anyone recommend a generic driver that I can use for a wireless network adapter? (Note:The machine with linux is currently not connected to the internet)
[04:09] <kahoot> Jordan_U Thanks, I'll look into it. One last thing, if I do mess my resolution up, is there a way to change it back without rebooting?
[04:09] <Axident> Gogeta: you suggestions have I all ready tryed. The problem is also there if I let Ubuntu make by itself!
[04:10] <kahoot> Jordan_U: Xrandr doesn't work from ctrl-alt-f1 terminal since the X session isn't started from there.
[04:10] <edbian> Nilos, Depends very much on the card.  What does lspci say about your card?
[04:10] <gogeta> Axident: if you dont have a swap partation it makes a tempary one in ram
[04:11] <edbian> gogeta, He does have one.  It isn't being mounted correctly for some reason
[04:11] <gogeta> Axident: us with netbooks and ssds avoide swaping to mutch on the drive and dont use it
[04:11] <Reign25> Jordon_U: Any idea why my floppy is still showing up even though I don't have one.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> kahoot: "export DISPLAY=:0.0" Then you'll be able to use xrandr
[04:12] <ripdisk> I'm trying to switch my Gforce video card for a radeon (using regular radeon driver), but i can't get the geforce driver to stop loading so there is an error every time I boot
[04:12] <gogeta> edbian: he can use the live cd acd acess his drive and fstab and see whats up
[04:12] <kahoot> Jordan_U: where would I use that with?
[04:12] <edbian> gogeta, Axident, Yes do that
[04:12] <Jordan_U> Reign25: No, are removable devices showing up with the new kernel?
[04:12] <Reign25> Jordon_U: No.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> kahoot: Run that in the terminal when you ctrl+alt+F1. Applications know what display to talk to by looking at the DISPLAY environment variable
[04:13] <gartral> something is causing a wierd bug in ubuntu... i dont know if it's metacity, or x, but after staring at a window for a while, the focus flashes.. given/taken/given/taken over and over, and i have to close wine apps, ove all the windows, and cycly though alt-shifter to stop the madness of flashing windows
[04:14] <gartral> cycle*
[04:14] <Jordan_U> Reign25: Could you run "ubuntu-bug" to file a bug report?
[04:15] <Axident> gogeta: I know all this. the problem is not what you are writing about. And i would like to have a default installation with swap. Is it possible to get som help for a default installation
[04:15] <kahoot> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[04:15] <gogeta> Axident: as i said you can start the live cd mount your drive and lok at your fstab and see where the error is and correct it
[04:16] <gogeta> Axident: to fix swap
[04:16] <Jordan_U> kahoot: You're welcome. BTW, DISPLAY is also how you will tell apps to run within xephyr if you choose to do that.
[04:16] <Nilos> edbian:my device is a wireless usb adapter
[04:17] <edbian> Nilos, Does it show up in lsusb?
[04:17] <Nilos> edbian, yes the device does
[04:17] <gartral> where do i go to report bugs in launchpad?
[04:17] <edbian> Nilos, But not lspci??
[04:17] <Reign25> Jordon_U: Yup. Doing it now.
[04:18] <dukefan02011> help please
[04:18] <kahoot> Jordan_U: this is a very generic question I know, but how do you figure out some of this stuff? just time and playing around with the command line?
[04:18] <Reign25> Jordon_U: Should I file the report for external or internal storage devices?
[04:18] <Axident> gogeta I dont know anythin about fstab, sorry. And i absolutly not know how to fix anything. But I know that this pc had Ubuntu installed for a few hours ago.
[04:18] <Nilos> edbian, no only stuff like my built-in ethernet and audio show up
[04:19] <ravibn> Hi! What would you advice to install on Dell Latitude e6510 ? a server edition or desktop ?
[04:19] <Nilos> rav depends on what you plan to use it for
[04:19] <gogeta> Axident: if it worked a few hrs ago and stoped should like my first guess was right
[04:19] <dukefan02011> I have a macbook running snow leopard OSX and I want to dual boot it with ubuntu linux 10.4, I am a complete newbie
[04:19] <gogeta> Axident: swap got cruppted
[04:20] <dukefan02011> please help me
[04:20] <Reign25> Jordon_U: It says I need to specify a package.
[04:20] <gogeta> Axident: i guess if you dont wanna try and fixx it you can always reinstall
[04:20] <tripps> Jordan_U, nope that didn't work (updating defoptions, upgrading grub and rebooting)
[04:20] <Jon--> I have no sound in Ubuntu. The visual display is a white unfilled speaker icon with three dashses.. Sound settings seem to be the same. Help?
[04:20] <ravibn> Nilos : There are lot of new HW improvements
[04:20] <ravibn> Nilos: on this notebook
[04:21] <dukefan02011> any suggestions?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> tripps: Does /proc/cmdline show the kernel parameter?
[04:21] <dukefan02011> please?
[04:22] <alanm_7805> I made the switch from 8.10 to 10.04, restored /usr/local/bin from backup successfully, all old scripts run great, no new scripts run, permissions and owners are correct, ?
[04:22] <tripps> Jordan_U, yup. Even went into grub menu and hit e to confirm
[04:22] <edbian> dukefan02011, Get the ubuntu CD! !ubuntu
[04:22] <ravibn> Nilos : will a desktop version would be good fit to do power mgmt ? use Vpro ? advanced HW features for intel 57qm chipset
[04:22] <Axident> It didnt stop. Please ask insted of guessing. This dosnt help if you dont know what i did! edbian did see what i did and where the problem were coming!
[04:22] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan02011: sorry I do not have a mac so i can not help
[04:22] <Jordan_U> kahoot: Odd, do you have an xorg.conf?
[04:22] <vivek> can anyone tell me who do i fix line numbers in vim editor
[04:22] <edbian> Axident, Did you boot a live CD?
[04:22] <dukefan02011> edbian, this is my only cpu and I want to dual boot it without messing it up,
[04:23] <Nilos> rav, im prettty certain you can do power management on a desktop install
[04:23] <edbian> dukefan02011, Great: step 1 get an ubuntu cd and boot from it.
[04:23] <dukefan02011> I know almost nothing about linux
[04:23] <tripps> Jordan_U, you sure I don't need an xorg.conf?
[04:23] <charless40> hola
[04:23] <Jon--> I have no sound in Ubuntu. The visual display is a white unfilled speaker icon with three dashses.. Sound settings seem to be the same. Help?  (I JUST had it working a few seconds ago. A Wine application crashed, so I had to use CTRL + ALT + F1   sudo service gdm restart  did this cause this?)
[04:23] <kahoot> Jordan_U: I think you messaged the wrong person?
[04:23] <dukefan02011> is there any way to do it sithout the cd?
[04:23] <dukefan02011> without*
[04:23] <charless40> si
[04:24] <ravibn> Nilos : how abt the advanced features of this Intel 57QM chipset ? and utilitzing core i7 cores?
[04:24] <charless40> yo soy charless40
[04:24] <fatum> Does anyone know about getting sound input to work on the VIA 1708S card?
[04:24] <edbian> dukefan02011, We don't do tutorials from start to finish.  We more or less answer questions in a robust way.  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:24] <Axident> edbian I booted at live and maked partitions from gparted
[04:24] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan02011: I know when I installed ubuntu on my windows machine it allowed me to adjust the partitions with out messing it up
[04:24] <IdleOne> Jon--: the speaker with 3 dashes means the sound is muted
[04:24] <Nilos> edbian, I have tried to run the install in WINE and tried LINUXANT, and still NOTHING
[04:24] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan02011: i used a USB flash drive to install mine
[04:24] <edbian> dukefan02011, yes but it is harder.  You can use unetbootin
[04:24] <charless40> quien es eliezer
[04:24] <linknop> hola
[04:24] <Punker> I there.  I installed apached from source (make install) with the latest release on a Ubuntu distro.  I would like to remove it.  What would be the best way so nothing remains ?
[04:24] <linknop> hola
[04:24] <charless40> hola
[04:24] <IdleOne> !es | charless40 linknop
[04:24] <edbian> Axident, Can you boot to the live CD and pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" for me?
[04:25] <charless40> het
[04:25] <charless40> hey
[04:25] <edbian> Nilos, Sorry the install for what?  I can't remember 3 people's problems at once.
[04:25] <Jon--> IdleOne: No, it shouldn't be. I have a mute button on my laptop, if I press it, it shows the MUTE (red x over speaker) in the top right (ubuntu picks it up). This is not on. Under sound preferences, mute is NOT ticked.
[04:25] <vivek>  can anyone tell me who do i fix line numbers in vim editor
[04:25] <dukefan02011> there is no way to just download something that will partition my drive for me?
[04:25] <Kardos> fix line numbers>
[04:25] <Nilos> edbian, i need a driver for a usb wireless network adapter.
[04:25] <tripps> Jordan_U, wondering if it's worth it to check out the PPA
[04:25] <Kardos> what does that mean :x
[04:25] <onetinsoldier> Punker: go into the source directory, and run --> make uninstall
[04:25] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan0211: the CD will partition the drive for you
[04:26] <Nilos> edbian:been having compatibility issues.Its one of the newer belkin models
[04:26] <charless40> hola
[04:26] <Punker> i tried this, and there is no uninstall file in this dir.  Also gives me a target error :"make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop."
[04:26] <Axident> edbian one moment please
[04:26] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  heya, long time no see
[04:26] <charless40> nadie habla espanol
[04:26] <edbian> Nilos, I don't think I can help. All I can say is that the drivers on the CD are for windows and will be useless for windows and that it doesn't look good because the system doesn't recognize it as a wifi device.
[04:26] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: howdy~! roger... long time
[04:26] <Jordan_U> Punker: If you did a make clean you may need to run ./configure again.
[04:27] <dhila> why I can't use synaptic package manager? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:27] <dhila> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:27] <dukefan02011> I don't have a cd handy...
[04:27] <dhila> help me please, I'm new in Ubuntu
[04:27] <edbian> dukefan02011, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD   other ways to install ubuntu (I'm just using google here)
[04:27] <charless40> hola
[04:27] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  I'm downloading 10.04 64 bit.  Anything exceptionally different from Karmic?
[04:27] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan02011: it is possible to install without the CD
[04:27] <onetinsoldier> Punker: well, you might have another choice possibly. but i am disappointed to see they didn't include and uninstall in their source
[04:28] <edbian> dukefan02011, I don't know why you'd want to install another way though.  It's more difficult
[04:28] <elric> hey,m getting crackling sound on wine...
[04:28] <elric> any idea to fix it?
[04:28] <dhila> anybody can help me???
[04:28] <IdleOne> dhila: do you also have Software center open?
[04:28] <v4> register vin4 vinaygeorgian@gmail.com
[04:28] <Punker> onetin: what would that other possibility be ?
[04:28] <dukefan02011> on a mac though?
[04:28] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: i didn't run Karmic... been gone a long time. don't know
[04:28] <IdleOne> v4: use the server tab for that
[04:28] <RoDiMuS-X> dhila: you may have more than one instance of the package manager running
[04:29] <onetinsoldier> Punker: you can install 'checkinstall' --> sudo apt-get install chaeckinstall
[04:29] <onetinsoldier> Punker: you can install 'checkinstall' --> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[04:29] <dhila> Idle0ne: No I've closed all package manager programs...
[04:29] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  Ah, I see.
[04:29] <perlsyntax> How can i just update to  to 10.04 repo's?
[04:29] <edbian> dhila, Make double sure using "ps -e | grep apt"
[04:29] <IdleOne> dhila: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock then try Synaptic package manager again
[04:29] <perlsyntax> from 9.10 with out update it
[04:29] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:30] <gogeta> perlsyntax: bad idea
[04:30] <Punker> onetin: ok, got it
[04:30] <gogeta> perlsyntax: good way to brake the system
[04:30] <v4> how to register a nickname
[04:30] <perlsyntax> i can't get 10.04 to work on the laptop.
[04:30] <Punker> and where should i go from there ?
[04:30] <IdleOne> !register > v4
[04:30] <gogeta> perlsyntax: why not
[04:30] <edbian> perlsyntax, What's it doing that's getting you stuck?
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> Punker: ok, now, in the source directory, as root(sudo) run --> checkinstall
[04:30] <uRock> perlsyntax, what programs do you need the new versions of?
[04:30] <dukefan02011> will the cd automatically dual boot my mac?
[04:31] <edbian> dukefan02011, No
[04:31] <perlsyntax> it load the live cd and then i get a blacksceen after it loads
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> Punker: it should make a .deb package and install it
[04:31] <edbian> dukefan02011, The CD will give you the option to install or to
[04:31] <perlsyntax> i have no prob on the 9.10
[04:31] <v4> how to register a nick
[04:31] <edbian> dukefan02011, "try ubuntu" which will run the OS from the CD without any changes to your computer at all.
[04:31] <astrobill> I have a dell deminsion 2400 and Dell says that the onboard intel graphics CANNOT be disabled.  Is there anyway to make Ubuntu ignore it's presense since I'm using a geforce 8400 adapter?
[04:31] <gogeta> perlsyntax: probly the new nevu drivers
[04:31] <uRock> perlsyntax, what programs do you need the new versions of?
[04:31] <IdleOne> v4: /join #freenode and they can help you
[04:31] <dhila> Idle0ne: No such file or directory
[04:31] <elric> Anybody know how to fix the crackling sound in wine?
[04:31] <perlsyntax> what you mean
[04:31] <edbian> astrobill, It should automatically if you install the card connect the monitor to it and reboot
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> Punker: then, you can just use 'dpkg' to uninstall it... dpkg --purge <package_name>
[04:32] <perlsyntax> perl 5.10.1 and gcc and python 2.6.5
[04:32] <astrobill> edbian: I cannot enable desktop effects
[04:32] <Punker> onetin: its doing its thing.  Where will the .deb file be ? same dir ?
[04:32] <IdleOne> dhila: ok so Synaptic is closed now correct?
[04:32] <edbian> astrobill, Usually just connecting the card changes things at the motherboard level
[04:32] <perlsyntax> uRock
[04:32] <dukefan02011> when you install it will it partition you drive so you can go on to Snow Leopard or ubuntu whenever you want?
[04:32] <onetinsoldier> Punker: you won't need the .deb file, unless you're just wanting to save it
[04:32] <uRock> can't they be installed via a PPA?
[04:32] <edbian> astrobill, With which device?  The mobo graphics or the card?
[04:32] <dhila> Idle0ne: Yes
[04:32] <onetinsoldier> Punker: but it makes it right there in the directory you're working in
[04:32] <IdleOne> dhila: ok open Synaptic again and try
[04:32] <edbian> dukefan02011, Yes  between a reboot of course
[04:33] <perlsyntax> i don't know where i can get the new gcc anf perl 5.10.1 and python 2.6.5
[04:33] <edbian> dukefan02011, But you can boot from the CD without affecting your computer at all.  It's very cool.  That's why the call it a live CD.
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: so you're running Karmic right now?
[04:33] <RoDiMuS-X> has anyone else noticed the wireless flashes off and on?
[04:33] <perlsyntax> urock  you there?
[04:33] <dukefan02011> I don't want to run a cd whenever I want to access linux though...
[04:33] <edbian> astrobill, Take a loog at this!  http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[04:33] <v4> idleone.. i am in freenode
[04:33] <astrobill> edbian: I'm using the nvidia driver for the geforce 8400 card.  I cannot enable desktop effects.  When I type Compiz in terminal, it idetifies the intel graphics chip as a blacklisted graphics adapter
[04:34] <uRock> perlsyntax, I am not sure either, but the only way to get them if Lucid doesn work is by compiling from source
[04:34] <dhila> Idle0ne: Ok it works now, thank you very much 4 helping me...
[04:34] <gogeta> dukefan02011: then you install it
[04:34] <dhila> Idle0ne: :-)
[04:34] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: you using gnome or kde? let me guess.. kde! :-)
[04:34] <perlsyntax> i give up
[04:34] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan0211: it gives you the option to setup a dual boot when adjusting partitions for windows not sure about mac
[04:34] <gogeta> dukefan02011: you can dule boot a amc
[04:34] <edbian> astrobill, Is the monitor connected to the card and not the mobo?
[04:34] <gogeta> mac
[04:34] <astrobill> edbian: yes
[04:34] <edbian> dukefan02011, Get the CD and try it out! :)
[04:34] <IdleOne> v4 you are ON Freenode yes. Now type /join #freenode
[04:34] <v4> Idleone: i am in freenode
[04:34] <edbian> astrobill, Did you look at the link I sent?
[04:35] <astrobill> edbian: I'm looking now
[04:35] <edbian> v4, freenode server !=  freenode channel
[04:35] <gogeta> dukefan02011: the live cd works as a tril of ubuntu and a installer
[04:35] <dukefan02011> you just download ubuntu 10.4 and burn it to a cd and then run it when booting the cpu up?
[04:35] <edbian> astrobill, It is very helpful in getting compiz to work
[04:35] <edbian> dukefan02011, You're going to love linux :)
[04:35] <gogeta> dukefan02011: yep
[04:35] <Punker> onetin:  it said some folder couldnt be removed because they are not empty, then it lists 5 folders.  if i deleted them manually, it should all be gone ?
[04:35] <crankharder> how can forcibly resinatll a package (including configuration files, etc, etc -- *everything*)
[04:35] <RoDiMuS-X> dukefan02011: you got it
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> Punker: yes, correct
[04:35] <edbian> dukefan02011, Yeah pretty much.  Sometimes you have to hold a button down on an older mac but I don't think that's true anymore.
[04:35] <the3dman> Anyone know how to remove a new menu folder that I have created in the menu editor (karmic)?
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> Punker: just check what's in those dirs first just in case
[04:36] <edbian> dukefan02011, You need an ISO burner though cause it's an ISO file that you download
[04:36] <Punker> thanks a lot :)  You were extremely helpful
[04:36] <edbian> dukefan02011, Make sense?
[04:36] <edbian> dukefan02011, The site has pretty good instructions
[04:36] <dukefan02011> I have linux on my crappy windows xp desktop and I do love it
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> Punker: cool. you're welcome :-)
[04:36] <illuminaris> I'm trying to figure out why my button-pressed sound file won't load properly all of the time. I am customizing my desktop sound theme and I added a new button-pressed sound. All the other sounds I've added have basically worked without a problem. But for some reason button-pressed only works about 1/50th of the time, the rest of the time it's playing the default bump sound.
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> Punker: enjoy
[04:36] <dukefan02011> and yes it makes complete sense, thanks you guys
[04:36] <gogeta> crankharder: slect compleatly remove from syanptic or use -purge with apt-get
[04:36] <Nilos> edbian:it shows the USb "slots" in lspci, but it only identifies the device in lsusb
[04:36] <edbian> dukefan02011, :)
[04:36] <dhila> thank you everybody...
[04:36] <gogeta> crankharder: that removes configs
[04:37] <PhishPharmer> onetinsoldier's armor just got thicker, lol
[04:37] <edbian> Nilos, Does it show up in "sudo ifconfig -a"
[04:37] <onetinsoldier> PhishPharmer: lol.. maybe
[04:37] <RedXIII|Laptop> I have this mp4 video file that I recovered off a dying drive using ddrescue. Its heavily fragmented and I'm sure has SOME video data in it
[04:37] <RedXIII|Laptop> however VLC / Titan won't recognize it
[04:37] <RedXIII|Laptop> Is there software that I can use to recover small fragments of the file?
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> Virtualdub maybe.. don't know
[04:38] <gogeta> RedXIII|Laptop: genreluy with linux no
[04:38] <edbian> RedXIII|Laptop, handbrake will probably do it.  Don't ask me how to use it.  I have no idea
[04:38] <the3dman> Maybe some of the video editing programs.
[04:39] <v4> Idleone: can you send link once more
[04:39] <RedXIII|Laptop> something is not possible with linux? ohboy..
[04:39] <Nilos> edbian:one says "ethernet" and the other says "local loopback"
[04:39] <gogeta> edbian: linux when something gets deleted it get zeroed
[04:39] <RedXIII|Laptop> I'll search up handbrake
[04:39] <IdleOne> !register | v4
[04:39] <gogeta> edbian: unlike windows
[04:39] <edbian> Nilos, Then it isn't there.  I would be googling at this point.  I have no idea how to help you :(
[04:40] <Nilos> edbian, I found some older drivers, think they will work
[04:40] <edbian> Nilos, Only if they're linux drivers
[04:40] <Nilos> they are
[04:40] <edbian> Nilos, give it a shot! :
[04:40] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: if you go here and add this repo, handbrake is in the repo and you can install it with apt-get/aptitude/synaptic
[04:40] <crankharder> gogeta: ty
[04:40] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[04:40] <RedXIII|Laptop> ah thanks
[04:41] <v4> !register |v4
[04:41] <oreonix> Hey all, has anyone seen an issue with the ubuntu 10.04, and nvidia drivers not playing video output
[04:41] <RoDiMuS-X> How do I adjust power settings in ubuntu?
[04:41] <oreonix> i used jockey to install the drivers, and i cant seem to get any video player to display video
[04:41] <oreonix> i just get a blank screen
[04:42] <edbian> oreonix, Video playback plugin in compiz is on right?  Just a shot in the dark
[04:42] <the3dman> I had a problem with dvds but I upgraded mplayer and now it works well.
[04:42] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: i'm trying to find the page for that repo that has instructions on how to add it... i don't see it there right offhand. but, you're welcome
[04:42] <RedXIII|Laptop> onetinsoldier: http://handbrake.fr/ <- that right?
[04:42] <RedXIII|Laptop> It has a deb file right on the homepage
[04:42] <oreonix> edbian, how do i check that?
[04:43] <RoDiMuS-X> Anyone point me how to adjust power settings?
[04:43] <edbian> oreonix, sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[04:43] <gameboy> anybody can recommend freee antivirus
[04:43] <edbian> oreonix, Then look in system -> preferences -> compiz-config-settings manager
[04:43] <edbian> gameboy, clamav
[04:43] <oreonix> checking now
[04:43] <gameboy> ah ok thanks
[04:43] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: that is where you can download the source code for handbrake.. yes
[04:43] <the3dman> Gameboy (yeah linux lol)
[04:43] <edbian> gameboy, Although in linux viruses are not as big a concern
[04:44] <RedXIII|Laptop> that's for the GUI and CLI
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: that is the website/home page for it, yes
[04:44] <RedXIII|Laptop> subversion is on there too
[04:44] <oreonix> its enabled
[04:44] <Axident> edbian: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[04:44] <Axident> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[04:44] <Axident> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[04:44] <Axident> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:44] <Axident> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[04:44] <FloodBot1> Axident: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <Axident> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[04:44] <edbian> oreonix, Then I'm out of ideas
[04:45] <oreonix> :(
[04:45] <oreonix> lol
[04:45] <gameboy> ah ok just to be cautious becoz my sister is always share file with her friends
[04:45] <oreonix> this is weird
[04:45] <oreonix> mplayer will not even play video
[04:45] <edbian> Axident, !pastebin
[04:45] <FloodBot1> oreonix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <tecky> anyone use Codeweavers "Games" edition?
[04:45] <nishanth> does anyone know how i can fix this.... during boot this msg pops up ....(EE) kernel modesetting driver ,refusing to load
[04:45] <edbian> Axident, !pastebinit
[04:46] <gameboy> ok thanks ..ubuntu 10.04 rocks...loving it..byee
[04:46] <edbian> !pastebinit | Axident
[04:46] <billybigrigger> nishanth, i would assume your graphics card doesn't support KMS
[04:46] <edbian> there we go
[04:46] <dm_> Anyone have this annoying system beep (speaker on mobo) problem? I cant turn the darned thing off
[04:46] <edbian> !pastebin | Axident
[04:46] <Axident> edbian: this is from gparted:                                  GParted 0.5.1
[04:46] <Axident> Libparted 2.2
[04:46] <Axident> Create Primary Partition #1 (ext4, 49.49 GiB) on /dev/sdb  00:00:14    ( SUCCESS )
[04:46] <Axident>      	
[04:46] <Axident> create empty partition  00:00:01    ( SUCCESS )
[04:46] <FloodBot1> Axident: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <Axident>      	
[04:47] <edbian> Axident, See my PM ?
[04:47] <dm_> Anyone have this annoying system beep (speaker on mobo) problem? I cant turn the darned thing off
[04:47] <edbian> dm_, "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr"
[04:47] <edbian> dm_, You're welcome
[04:48] <edbian> Axident, See my personal message?
[04:48] <dm_> edbian Well, you see, i've tried that, and it doesnt work.
[04:48] <the3dman> Anyone know how to remove a created folder in the menu editor, I can remove apps it seems but not the folders they are in. (Karmic)
[04:48] <Omen_20> Is there anywhere to get panflute plugins. Im looking for an mplayer plugin.
[04:48] <edbian> dm_, Really?  Are you sure?
[04:48] <edbian> dm_, Ha ha  never heard of that before!
[04:48] <dm_> edbian unless im on acid. No it doesnt work, or I wouldnt of come in here
[04:49] <edbian> dm_, Maybe it's a different module name now?  Does it show up in lspci -k ?
[04:49] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: hello again. i gave you link to wrong place earlier
[04:49] <shazzam6999> if you're using alsa you can run alsamixer in the cli and turn the beep off, then as root run alsactl store
[04:50] <RedXIII|Laptop> o.o well I already installed handbrake
[04:50] <RedXIII|Laptop> tried piping the mp4 file in, it scanned and said no titles on it
[04:50] <RedXIII|Laptop> I imagine that means its a lost cause
[04:50] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  Ah, the joy of 'net drop
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> RedXIII|Laptop: roger, good deal :-)
[04:50] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  And yes, I *am* using kde ;) hee
[04:50] <RedXIII|Laptop> sucky ;(. thanks though
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: ahh, i was wondering why you weren't responding
[04:50] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  local restaurant connection...likes to hiccup now and again
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: i see
[04:51] <dm_> edbian: I had to double check, no doesnt exist
[04:51] <edbian> dm_, I have no clue!  ha ha.  Best of luck to you
[04:51] <edbian> dm_, Be sure to tell me if you figure it out
[04:52] <shazzam6999> dm_: are you using alsa?
[04:52] <dm_> Pulse
[04:52] <shazzam6999> dm_: ah, never used pulse sorry
[04:52] <Nilos> edbian:whats the ubuntu equivalebnt of device manager?
[04:52] <dm_> shazzam6999: if i was using also id just turn it off with alsamixer
[04:52] <edbian> Nilos, The command line and the knowledge that can only come with experience
[04:52] <Nilos> k
[04:52] <edbian> Nilos, :)
[04:52] <dm_> but alas... things keep breaking more and more every release
[04:53] <palmeiras> hi people
[04:53] <shazzam6999> dm_: yeah, thats what I was going to suggest... really? I've never had any issues with alsa
[04:53] <dm_> im about to go back to hardy lol
[04:53] <the3dman> Hi
[04:53] <edbian> dm_, Just switch to debian
[04:53] <IdleOne> Nilos: System Monitor I think is what you want
[04:53] <onetinsoldier> Nilos: /dev directory
[04:53] <dm_> edbian: I might. I was on fedora for a while, but... yeah, that community is worse than any other
[04:53] <palmeiras> brasil
[04:53] <IdleOne> !br | palmeiras
[04:53] <edbian> dm_, Really?  What do you mean?  Rude?
[04:54] <kroms> hi
[04:54] <dm_> edbian: you know the term Elitist linux user? They defined it
[04:54] <edbian> dm_, Ouch
[04:54] <edbian> dm_, I wish I knew enough to be elitist!
[04:54] <shazzam6999> dm_: hah that was the first distro I tried and I felt the same way
[04:54] <gartral> something is causing a wierd bug in ubuntu... i dont know if it's metacity, or x, but after staring at a window for a while, the focus flashes.. given/taken/given/taken over and over, and i have to close wine apps, over all the windows, and cycle though alt-shifter to stop the madness of flashing windows
[04:54] <IdleOne> edbian: you know enough not to be :)
[04:54] <dm_> edbian: I wanted a simple copy paste from a config, and they wanted me to read a 35 page man page about it
[04:54] <edbian> IdleOne, Thanks :)
[04:55] <edbian> dm_, Ha ha
[04:55] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  So what've you been up to?
[04:56] <bluefoxx> Ok, here's my deal. On my desktop, which yes, runs windows(and no I'm not interested in switching), I have become very strapped for diskspace. That being the case, I had 20 gigs of unpartitioned space on my D drive, which held some very important project files along with the entirety of %program files%. I decided I would do what I've done a dozen times prior without issue, and resize it from a liveCD
[04:56] <dm_> this "LTS" release has borked my vid drivers ( had to do a huge hack just to get 3d working) my fan is now always on. My edge scrolling is still broken (since alpha and 4 month old bug). They seem to be caring much more about how it looks than it functions
[04:56] <bluefoxx> So I began this process, and in the middle of the actual move, ubuntu decided to crash on me. Hard.
[04:56] <Firefishe> dm_:  I'm sticking with Karmic until further notice.  My system is nice and stable ;) hee
[04:56] <bluefoxx> Won't respond to CAB, won't respond to raising elephants. It's dead in the water, which has turned to black ice.
[04:57] <dm_> Firefishe dont get me started on karmic.
[04:57] <dm_> that was a joke of a release
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> Firefishe: working.. taking care of my rental houses. but this is offtopic. we should really talk in ubuntu-offtopic or via pm
[04:57] <IdleOne> bluefoxx: alt-sysrq-k
[04:57] <Firefishe> onetinsoldier:  ah, you're right of course.  Soryr.
[04:57] <bluefoxx> What tools are avaible to me to boot off of USB and recover the partition?
[04:57] <Firefishe> sorry
[04:57] <bluefoxx> IdleOne, Done that
[04:57] <bluefoxx> Nothing.
[04:57] <krishnandu> Hey friends, Is there any good cd/dvd burner?? Brasero doesn't seems to be good. It doesn't allows me to burn mp3 disc n etc. Googling around gave me result k3b. But it's for KDE. Can I install it in GNOME?? Or anything better you'd like to suggest??
[04:57] <bluefoxx> When I say it's dead in the water I mean it's dead in the water and locked in ice
[04:57] <likemindead> Anyone flashed their BIOS in Ubuntu before? :-\
[04:58] <IdleOne> bluefoxx: same as on the live cd. see !usb
[04:58] <shazzam6999> krishnandu: yeah you can install k3b on gnome and its my favorite... although I don't burn mp3s
[04:58] <linknop> join #backtrack-italia
[04:58] <edbian> bluefoxx, Did it finish the partition?
[04:58] <bluefoxx> edbian, Not even close
 Ok. Thanx. But Brasero is not that good
[04:58] <k3rn> hi
[04:58] <bluefoxx> Was maybe 5Gb in out of 270
[04:58] <edbian> bluefoxx, Well I don't see what option you have then to hard reboot
[04:58] <dm_> likemindead: unless your manufact/OEM has ez flash bios, or something similiar, they have to have a linux specific bios flash utility, otherwise you could bork your computer
[04:58] <IdleOne> krishnandu: you can also try gnomebaker
[04:58] <bluefoxx> YEs
[04:58] <bluefoxx> I plan to
[04:59] <bluefoxx> But after that
[04:59] <edbian> bluefoxx, The live cd again
[04:59] <shazzam6999> krishnandu: Well I always use k3b and I've never had any issues
 Ok. Lemme check it out :)
[04:59] <edbian> bluefoxx, Maybe a different physical disk in light of the recent crash
[04:59] <bluefoxx> I certainly can't boot windows without my %program files%, nor my pagefile
 Ya seems that k3b is best. Atleast google says that :P
[04:59] <cwillu_at_work> any tricks to getting a grub prompt when you've got one of the many machines which grub won't prompt when you hold shift down?
[04:59] <bluefoxx> edbian, Don't have any other disks.
[04:59] <bluefoxx> Everything is full. Filled.
[05:00] <dm_> I like brasero over k3b personally
[05:00] <shazzam6999> krishnandu: its easy enough to try it out anyways and see if it does what you need it to
[05:00] <dm_> But im partial to GTK
[05:00] <bluefoxx> I'm supposed to be getting a few 1500Gb drives in the coming month
[05:00] <krishnandu> Thanks guys. I'd like to try out k3b.
[05:00] <shazzam6999> brasero wasn't doing everything he needed it to
[05:00] <likemindead> Bummer.
[05:00] <shazzam6999> krishnandu: gl =)
 Ya seems that it fulfills my requirements, atleast from the screenshots
[05:00] <dm_> shazzam6999: what did he need? I must of missed/lagged
[05:00] <k3rn> how can I change the value of a variable in a shell script? I have a variable bla="path/to/bla" - I want to change it to "path\/to\/bla" to be able to use it in sed...
[05:01] <bluefoxx> Are there not any distros I can make bootble from a USB stick(no burner in laptop) that are made for data recovery crap?
[05:01] <krishnandu> So guys I need another suggestion....Anything like Nero Vision??
[05:01] <edbian> k3rn, $blah="somethingNew"
[05:01] <bluefoxx> Noone?
[05:01] <edbian> bluefoxx, grml  ???  I can't remember exactly
[05:01] <edbian> bluefoxx, Google it!
[05:02] <k3rn> edbian: i want to replaace any "/" with a "\/" ...
[05:02] <gartral> bluefoxx: trinity rescue kit
[05:02] <dm_> Anyone here with twinview working? got a Q
[05:02] <bluefoxx> edbian, gartral, Can those rescue a half-moved partition?
[05:03] <edbian> bluefoxx, Good questions
[05:03] <bluefoxx> That's what I need to do
[05:03] <bluefoxx> I had some tools before hand, but those were installed /on/ the machine in question
[05:03]  * bluefoxx blarfs
[05:04] <krishnandu> Hey guys can u suggest me any alternative for Nero Vision in Ubuntu??
[05:04] <gartral> bluefoxx: if you work hard enough maybe... i dont know how to. try synaptic disk doctor?
[05:04] <krishnandu> I want to make Video DVD using the normal video files(avi, wmv etc)
[05:04] <krishnandu> mpeg etc.
[05:04] <bluefoxx> gartral, No google hits, sauce?
[05:04] <bluefoxx> Err, link?
[05:05] <wildbat> k3rn, just change it in editor??
[05:05] <k3rn> wildbat: its a variable in a shell script
[05:06] <gartral> bluefoxx: im 100% sure i screwed the name up, it's synaptic disk somthing.. i havent used it in years, and the liscence aint cheap (not saying its not possible to get it "otherwise" but it;s an $80 disk with a $1000 corporate key)
[05:06] <g00dwill1> Has anyone had success with rotating one of two displays CCW while in twinview using an invidia card ?
[05:06] <wildbat> k3rn, and most editor like gedit have search and replace.
[05:06] <gartral> bluefoxx: but i know it will at least get your data back
[05:07] <k3rn> wildbat: i want to have i dynamical
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> krishnandu: you might want to look at ffmpeg/winff maybe
[05:07] <gartral> g00dwill1: whats an "invidia" card?
[05:07] <bluefoxx> I've crawled the corners of the net for less likely things(Come to think of it, I've likely lost my Solaris/2.6 source code now too)
 Thanks. Lemme check it out
[05:07] <g00dwill1> gartral: 6600 GT
[05:07] <gartral> g00dwill1: OHHH! "NVIDIA"
[05:08] <vivek> i wanna install latest firefox  could anyone tell me how do i do that ?
[05:08] <wildbat> k3rn, you mean that ? sed 's/\//\\\//g'
[05:08] <merculiv> there  reason why my mobile broadband connections notshowing up after a system update?
[05:08] <gartral> vivek: apt-get install landmine
[05:08] <gartral> vivek: apt-get install minefield (sorry)
[05:08] <stewart> hi! since upgrading to lucid, the app i'm building just segfaults... before getting to main() seemingly just having linked against libc. anyone able to help?
 No. I want DVD Making software. I want to make Video DVD which runs in DVD Players.
[05:09] <onetinsoldier> vivek: you can have a look here if you want --> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
 Alternative to Ner Vision
[05:09] <krishnandu> *Nero
[05:10] <g00dwill1> gartral: I guess you didn't get the error in translation from Mandarin.
[05:10] <k3rn> wildbat: can i use sed also for variables in a script?
[05:10] <onetinsoldier> krishnandu: you can add this getdeb repository if you want, and it has 'handbrake' in it --> http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
 Handbrake is the solution??
[05:10] <gartral> g00dwill1: dont try pasting chinese in an english irc channel.
 Ok thanks.....lemme see
[05:10] <onetinsoldier> krishnandu: probably
[05:10] <Ynnah> lol
[05:10] <gartral> g00dwill1: in fact..
[05:11] <gartral> !cn | g00dwill1
[05:11] <paris> How can I connect database with MySQL?
 Ok Lemme Check
[05:11] <g00dwill1> gartral: don't be a dumbass in reponse to a valid question.
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> krishnandu: here is handbrake's web site... http://handbrake.fr/
[05:12] <gartral> g00dwill1: dont be a dumb ass and speak in a language other than the channel's
[05:12] <wildbat> k3rn, you have pipe ^^ ~ echo $blah | sed .....
 Ya thanks. I've already found it from google
[05:12] <krishnandu> :)
[05:12] <vivek> apt-get install minefield also not working
[05:12] <g00dwill1> gartral: it was a typo not chinese.
[05:12] <k3rn> wildbat: yea okay - not really nice but this may work =)
[05:13] <onetinsoldier> krishnandu: cool :-)
[05:13] <paris> Anybody knows MySQL?
[05:13] <krishnandu> paris: yup
[05:13] <gartral> g00dwill1: anyway.. whats the problem?
 Yup
 Whats the problem??
[05:14] <paris> krishnandu, How can I connect database with MySQL?
[05:14] <g00dwill1> gartral: Ha, just trying to get rotation of one display using twinview. I don't believe this is possible. It appears I may need to run seperate x sessions.
[05:14] <krishnandu> paris, Connect database??
[05:14] <krishnandu> paris, MySQL is itself a database
[05:14] <gartral> g00dwill1: try xrandr?
[05:14] <krishnandu> paris, What do you want to connect??
[05:15] <krishnandu> paris, do you mean conencting mysql from PHP??
[05:16] <Izinucs> g00dwill1: gartral xrandr might do it but you have to remember that there is a virtual desktop size that is equal to the greatest horizontal and verticle resolution..
[05:16] <g00dwill1> gartral: Tried, but I believe seperate x screens have to setup for this to work and Xinerama enabled.
[05:16] <Izinucs> g00dwill1: gartral of the two monitors combined
[05:17] <gartral> g00dwill1: no.. xrandr will interfere with xinerama.. you need ONE or the OTHER, both will break your displays..
[05:17] <paris> krishnandu, I have download some file (all tables) and I would like to connect to MySQL, those file are in Downloads folder.
[05:18] <k3rn> how can i initialise and increment an integer variable (in a bash script)?
[05:18] <krishnandu> paris: ohh got it. Get into phpmyadmin and import the files. Tats all.
[05:18] <theadmin> k3rn: increment as in add something to it?
[05:18] <dm_> Anyone here ever try linux mint?
[05:18] <brontosaurusrex> k3rn: /j #bash, read the topic and visiti some of the urls noted
[05:18] <theadmin> ubottu: mintsupport | dm_
[05:18] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: i'am running it on this machine
[05:19] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: isnt it based on ubuntu?
[05:19] <theadmin> dm_: It is.
[05:19] <gartral> g00dwill1: see man xrandr for an explination of how multiple displays are broken up. and remember that even though your effect is going to be linking the "top" of one display to the left of the second, format the command as if both are matching planes
[05:19] <k3rn> theadmin: ea add 1 would be fine
[05:19] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: yes
[05:19] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: how do you like it?
[05:19] <theadmin> k3rn: x=0 ; let x=x+1
[05:19] <abrookins> Hey, I'm using Lucid Lynx.  When I restart, I get a system beep.  I tried blacklisting pcspkr.  The module isn't loaded, and I still get the beep.  Any suggestions?
[05:19] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: still like it, kinda
[05:20] <gartral> abrookins: nahalem cpu?
[05:20] <g00dwill1> I was following this http://snipr.com/whypf. Added randr and rotate ccw to my Monitor1 section
[05:20] <dm_> abrookins i have the same issue, its unresolved, many bugs filed on it. Another bug that will last months, just rip out the mobo speaker in the mean time :P
[05:20] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: issues?
[05:20] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: some borken repos lately, but i'am running 64 bit version
[05:21] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: no issues basically
[05:21] <abrookins> dm_: It's a laptop, so not as easy to remove that wire, I think.
[05:21] <kofian> hola
[05:21] <astrobill> I have run the compiz-check script on ubuntu 9.04 and it says the intel graphics is blacklisted.  I am not using it, as I'm connected to the geforce 8400 card.  I cannot disable the intel graphics on the motherboard.  At the end of the compiz-check script it ask if I would like to skip the blacklist check, and I said 'yes', but it says 'permission denied' .  Any ideas on how to get around this?
[05:21] <paris> krishnandu, How to do this?
[05:21] <dm_> abrookins: I was being sarcastic :)
[05:21] <abrookins> gartral: Hm, I don't know.
[05:21] <abrookins> dm_: Believe me, I would have ripped it out a while ago if I could. ;)
[05:21] <theadmin> astrobill: Run it with sudo?
[05:21] <gartral> abrookins: well.. tell me what cpu you have
[05:21] <krishnandu> paris: there is an export option
[05:22] <krishnandu> paris: look there
[05:22] <brontosaurusrex> dm_:  i prefer it due to lil things, like 'open this folder in terminal' and such, which are misteriously missing in ubuntu
[05:22] <krishnandu> paris: on your database
[05:22] <paris> krishnandu, How to do this? I am a newbie?
[05:22] <krishnandu> paris: ok get into mysql
[05:22] <dm_> abrookins: Ive tried alot of things, the only thing that has worked is switching to alsa, which is absolutely ludicrous. I just wish they would stop screwing with things so much.
[05:22] <astrobill> theadmin: I tried running the script as root but it says "Do not run this script as root."
[05:22] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: but if i would install now, i would go for lucid
[05:22] <theadmin> astrobill: huh.
[05:22] <theadmin> astrobill: okay wtf.
[05:22] <shazzam6999> dm_: whats wrong with alsa?
[05:22] <abrookins> gartral: Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 2ghz
[05:23] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: You can install that feature in ubuntu with an apt-get you know
[05:23] <kofian> ho la por ke no puedo cambiar de red en mi ubuntu 10.4 como lo hacia en 9,4 y anteriores?
[05:23] <gartral> abrookins: you could tell me what mobo you have, i could see if theres a jumper you could pull too squelch the annoying thing
[05:23] <theadmin> ubottu: es | kofian
[05:23] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: if one is noobie like me, thats a 'feature'
[05:23] <paris> krishnandu, just please wait.
[05:23] <dm_> shazzam6999: Alsa, is a bit archaic in my experience, has problem with "layering" ( not sure what else to call it)
[05:24] <krishnandu> paris: ok np
[05:24] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: I suppose. It's a silly design choice by canonical
[05:24] <shazzam6999> dm_: ah, I don't use Ubuntu but I havnt experienced any trouble with alsa... and I actually like it the most
[05:24] <kofian> #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <dm_> brontosaurusrex:  but so is purple splash screens......
[05:24] <theadmin> kofian: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <jla> hi guys i have a little problem maybe someone can helpme
[05:24] <theadmin> dm_: What's the problem with those? Not very bright at least
[05:24] <theadmin> jla: Problem with what.
[05:25] <jla> with ubuntu one
[05:25] <dm_> btw who's idea was it for all the purple/orange everywhere, seriously.
[05:25] <astrobill> theadmin: do you know what file I could edit to unblacklist that intel graphics?
[05:25] <shazzam6999> looks better than brown
[05:25] <narffeyg> i say light white and neon black
[05:25] <dm_> It went from poop brown, to Barney purple
[05:25] <g00dwill1> gartral: Looks like you're right; the writeup I found on ubuntuforums was completely inaccurate. Thanks.
[05:25] <jla> i cant create and account
[05:25] <theadmin> astrobill: I think you use modprobe, but dunno how
[05:25] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: i like the new look, its kinda original imho
[05:25] <jla> i tryed like 10 times already
[05:25] <theadmin> dm_: Just install a new theme ffs.
[05:26] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: So is wearing a salad bowl on my head, but I dont do it
[05:26] <gartral> dm_: it looked like the bottum of a NY Public toilet up untill now... TRUST me, purple is an improvment
[05:26] <dm_> theadmin because there is a built in config for the splash screen right? not everyone can do it. Thats my complaint
[05:26] <dm_> gartral id prefer the poop brown over purple
[05:26] <narffeyg> so i just got on ubuntu...can anybody tell me something that i SHOULDNT do?
[05:26] <theadmin> dm_: Uh, the splash screen? Who cares about it if it's there less then a freakin second?
[05:26] <jla> some help please?
[05:27] <paris> krishnandu, I have just install a new version of Linux and I have forgotten how to install MySQL.
[05:27] <theadmin> narffeyg: Something that you shouldn't do? sudo rm -rf /*
[05:27] <Docteh> theadmin: its still ugly :(
[05:27] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: i think they try to be 'cool' as apple
[05:27] <dm_> theadmin: some of us care, just because you dont doesnt mean you can dismiss someone's opinion
[05:27] <narffeyg> in the terminal?
[05:27] <theadmin> narffeyg: Yeah, that is "delete everything" :D
[05:27] <shazzam6999> brontosaurusrex: in terms of marketing thats probably a decent direction to go in
[05:27] <narffeyg> goood to know
[05:27] <krishnandu> paris: ok even i forgot the packages. ask here
[05:27] <gartral> theadmin: some instances of splash screens dont go away after boot.. i remember 6.06 in my nvidia 8400.. the splash wouldnt go away, and i had to literally work around it..
[05:28] <krishnandu> paris: other members will be able to tell you better
[05:28] <brontosaurusrex> shazzam6999: possibly, but i'am not sure if it is the right time to target housewifes at this point really, to early
[05:28] <mfFANteam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5OFRqbFNM
[05:28] <mfFANteam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5OFRqbFNM
[05:28] <FloodBot1> mfFANteam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <gartral> theadmin: it's also three extra processes that can be striped from the boot sequence
[05:29] <narffeyg> other wise i use the terminal to fix the youtube problem that i was having but i want to learn more about it
[05:29] <jla> hey guys i have a little problem with ubuntu one can someone helpme?
[05:29] <theadmin> gartral: 3? Which ones apart from plymouthd?
[05:29] <gartral> i like how floodbots kick people, THEN ask them not to flood...
[05:29] <dm_> At this point id be happy with a blank screen and a blinking cursor if we only "had to look at it for a second"
[05:29] <theadmin> gartral: It does not kick, it mutes em
[05:29] <krishnandu> paris: http://ubuntuexperiment.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/installing-apache-php-mysql/
[05:29] <gartral> theadmin: 6.06 didnt have plymouth, i dont remember the names, that four years and 8+ releases ago
[05:29] <Docteh> dm_: is nosplash not working? I haven't been following along
[05:30] <theadmin> gartral: uh... Well, it had xsplash.
[05:30] <narffeyg> so fmi...is this thing world wide or just nation wide?
[05:30] <theadmin> gartral: Not much of a difference
[05:30] <dm_> Docteh it does, but thats not what we were really talking about
[05:30] <phoenix78> can i perform system administration tasks from limited privileges user profile using super user password?
[05:30] <gartral> theadmin: new ubuntu still has xsplash..
[05:30] <theadmin> phoenix78: No such thing as "super user" or "root" password
[05:31] <brontosaurusrex> narffeyg: what was/is the issue and what browser?
[05:31] <alket> I managed to make Compiz Cube but how to make that cylinder  ?
[05:31] <arbo> hey guys, fresh ubuntu lucid install, but I was tweaking settings and accidently clicked off the top panel (gnome).  How owuld I go about getting it back?
[05:31] <dm_> alket look for deformation
[05:31] <dm_> alket... or something like that
[05:31] <theadmin> ubottu: resetpanels | arbo
[05:31] <soreau> alket: install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[05:31] <narffeyg> xchat...just want to know how far my reach is
[05:31] <phoenix78> theadmin: I am trying to run synaptic package manager from limited privileges user profile and synaptic is not launching
[05:31] <arbo> thx
[05:31] <Izinucs> narffeyg: world wide
[05:31] <brontosaurusrex> narffeyg: all the known galaxies
[05:31] <phoenix78> theadmin: I entered the root password when prompted for
[05:31] <narffeyg> smashing
[05:32] <theadmin> phoenix78: There is no root password, really...
[05:32] <theadmin> phoenix78: It asks for YOUR password (your account has to be in "admin" group for it to work)
[05:32] <Nilos> I have the linux driver for the wireless network adapter, but need help installing it.the readme instrcutions are confusing
[05:33] <gartral> phoenix78: you need to be part of the admin group, and have your name in the sudoers file on your comp
[05:33] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: how light does mint run?
[05:33] <shazzam6999> dm_ as not light as anthing ubuntu related
[05:33] <phoenix78> theadmin: If my account is not in admin group, am i supposed to receive error or is it that the application doesn't launch at all (like in my case, synaptic is not launching)
[05:33] <dm_> shazzam6999: as not light ? :P
[05:34] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: this machine is basically a leftover from my previous workstation, so it would be unfair to say anything, i'd say similar as ubuntu
[05:34] <gartral> dm_: i have mint running on a 900mhz p3 with some 390 mb ram and a 16 mb 2d graphics card... and at desktop, theres little difference too my i7 860, 4 gigs ram, gtx 275 that im on now
[05:34] <shazzam6999> dm_: after midnight its easier to make up words than think of good ones =P
[05:34] <Docteh> phoenix78: should usually get an error of some sort, are you using gnome or kde? open a terminal and do gksu synaptic
[05:34] <narffeyg> so if i wanted to teach myself where would i start....anybody
[05:34] <dm_> gartral:  a bit overkill for a *nix box, wouldnt you say?
[05:34] <gartral> narffeyg: man intro
[05:34] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: running gnome version
[05:35] <gartral> dm_: im deving games
[05:35] <Izinucs> !manual | narffeyg
[05:35] <dm_> gartral: better be makin' some good ones
[05:35] <dm_> gartral the gaming industry has been really lacking as of late
[05:35] <phoenix78> Docteh: when i try to run from the terminal, i am getting error.  However, when i try to run from menu...it simply doesn't load and doesn't throw any error
[05:36] <gartral> dm_: im HOPING t get on with valve and help them port the steam games over...
[05:36] <Docteh> phoenix78: so whats the error
[05:36] <dm_> gartral: good luck
[05:36] <theadmin> phoenix78: It should give "you are not authorized to run the basic authenication mechanism (sudo)", however that warning dissapeared somewhere in Lucid
[05:36] <paris> krishnandu, Finally I did and right now I am in MySQL. What next?
[05:37] <gartral> dm_: they're having me play 20Qs with the current linux guy there (SHHH! Valve on linux is a reality!)
[05:37] <Docteh> boinc is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:37] <phoenix78> Docteh: "The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator." is the err...i get
[05:37] <Docteh> ^ thats the error i get trying to use sudo from an incorrect account
[05:37] <krishnandu> paris: ok you'll see export option there
[05:37] <gartral> Docteh: you (ironically) need sudo access to put yourself in the sudoers file
[05:37] <krishnandu> paris: click it
[05:38] <dm_> gartral: It always was a reality, its just too bad these big buck companies dont catch on more often...
[05:38] <onetinsoldier> cool
[05:38] <Docteh> gartral: thats what init=/bin/bash is for ;)
[05:38] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: its basically karmic with some makeup, or thats my view on it
[05:38] <Nilos> I have the linux driver for the wireless network adapter, but need help installing it.the readme instrcutions are confusing
[05:38] <dm_> gartral It really wouldnt take em long to port/write a client with current code, the same thing goes for many of these companies.
[05:38] <shazzam6999> can you just add people to the sudoers file in ubuntu... with visudo?
[05:38] <narffeyg> ubottu...helpful
[05:38] <theadmin> Is this a proper sudoers entry? "user ALL = apt-get, shutdown, poweroff, reboot"
[05:39] <paris> krishnandu, please wait again because I have installed MySQL -server , not the query-browser
[05:39] <gartral> dm_: not with wine, not with dx9 translations, native, linux .so libs and proper Opengl binaries. Linux-Steam is also a stable backend! just no games work yet
[05:39] <krishnandu> paris: okies
[05:39] <shazzam6999> theadmin: it doesn't have to be that complicated... user ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:39] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: meh, i think after lucid, im finally done with ubuntu. been here since breezy, getting tired of all the breaks due to how much they want to be on the "razors edge" or what have you. Im still not very stable even after (how long since lucid been out?)
[05:39] <theadmin> shazzam6999: I want to limit the user only to certain commands
[05:40] <dm_> gartral: well thats true, they should move away from dx all together imo
[05:40] <maco> theadmin: you should give the full paths to the binaries
[05:40] <Docteh> OpenDirectX muahahaha
[05:40] <theadmin> maco: Oh, I see. Thanks.
[05:41] <theadmin> dm_: Portal works on macs now :P It means they have an OpenGL port, I suppose
[05:41] <maco> theadmin: otherwise they could just make ~/bin/apt-get as a symlink to some other command and bypass your filter
[05:41] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: what will/have you pick for the next os?
[05:41] <merculiv> there a reason why my mobile broadband connection isnt showing in the connections applet after a kernel update?
[05:41] <Docteh> hopefully not gentoo ;)
[05:41] <dm_> theadmin: so does wow, and thats a multi bazilionjillion (lol) dollar company with the resources to pump that out in a month.
[05:42] <abrookins> gartral: thanks, it's a laptop.  I'll check out the specs
[05:42] <theadmin> dm_: "works on macs", as in natively
[05:42] <gartral> dm_: there's serious talk that is valve drops dx. M$ will patch win7 so that no valve game or steam version will work... ironically, M$ is more or less threatening suicide if valve (or a handful of other companies that are talking linux right now) decide to go with open standards
[05:42] <dm_> brontosaurusrex: not sure really. kinda sad about the whole thing
[05:42] <compaq> when I suspend to ram, ie sleep, then wake, I gey blank screen
[05:42] <brontosaurusrex> dm_: whats the issue?
[05:42] <merculiv> there a reason why my mobile broadband connection isnt showing in the connections applet after a kernel update?
[05:43] <dm_> theadmin: yeah, its moving ahead in the right direction, just shifting a bit more to the left than we'd hope'd
[05:43] <Solaris444> is it looking for a particular firmware?
[05:43] <Docteh> gartral: patching windows such that things dont work would get them sued, etc etc, thats just a fanboys fantasy
[05:43] <v4> hi
[05:44] <Solaris444> did you add a repository and download the driver, or perhaps compile the driver from source?
[05:44] <gartral> Docteh: tell that too Sony
[05:44] <Docteh> Solaris444: you should address that to merculiv
[05:44] <dm_> in all reality, win7 is heavy, but alot more stable than xp or vista. With a heavy heart I say that.
[05:44] <Solaris444> the is precedent Docteh
[05:45] <dm_> It's just too bad its not open :P
[05:45] <theadmin> dm_: Linux version of Steam will be out in a few months, it's official, man, so don't you worry
[05:45] <dm_> or free
[05:45] <Solaris444> Microsoft pushed out their Windows .Net Assistant through Windows Update to Firefox users.
[05:45] <dm_> theadmin: as for other games, im not so lucky.
[05:45] <theadmin> Solaris444: Don't run Windows Update :P
[05:45] <dm_> theadmin: I dont really play steam games, so im SoL
[05:45] <Solaris444> I don't. ;-)
[05:45] <lucretiaX> anyone using 10.4 netbook remix?
[05:45] <astrobill> If I want to edit the compiz file in ubuntu 9.04, can I just comment out the blacklist entries?
[05:45] <theadmin> dm_: SoL?
[05:45] <Solaris444> So Outta Luck
[05:45] <dm_> **** out of luck
[05:46] <theadmin> dm_: I suppose that such major company as VALVe will push others in the right direction ;)
[05:46] <Docteh> Solaris444: and mozilla blacklisted them for thier trouble
[05:46] <merculiv> the mobile usb broadband worked out of the box then when I went to update its stopped working
[05:46] <dm_> theadmin in time, yes
[05:46] <paris> krishnandu, I did, I have MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser. What next?
[05:46] <Solaris444> Docteh:  Sadly not.  The addon was only blacklisted because a particular version had security issues.  The current version of the .Net assistant still installs
[05:47] <krishnandu> paris: search for import option
[05:47] <v5> whta
[05:47] <krishnandu> paris: click it
[05:47] <Solaris444> So I would say if push came to shove that Microsoft is not above making other people's programs not work.
[05:47] <Solaris444> After all, part of the design docs for Vista were "f*** with Samba"
[05:47] <aperson> how do I prevent screen from starting from inside of a screen session, or even better, how should I add byobu -R to my .bashrc without it spawning a load of screen windows
[05:47] <Solaris444> Samba still doesn't work properly with Win7.
[05:47] <krishnandu> paris: just select your table files there and voila.....its done :)
[05:48] <dm_> Solaris444: as far as file sharing, i have no issues
[05:48] <Docteh> I can access my samba server from windows 7
[05:48] <v4> hey
[05:48] <Solaris444> Try using it as a file server.
[05:48] <Docteh> do you mean the other way around?
[05:48] <dm_> I... do
[05:48] <Solaris444> Or keeping your profile on it.
[05:48]  * dm_ looks at his file server box
[05:48] <merculiv> I should just go back one kernel to get it workng again?
[05:49] <paris> krishnandu, Do I have to do in MySQL Admin or MySQL Query Browser?
[05:49] <Solaris444> I can assure you, there are a number of known issues with Win7 and Samba that make it unsuitable to be a full-time file server (especially if you have remote profiles enabled)
[05:49] <Docteh> Solaris444: just sounds like microsoft wants to keep the open source developers employed
[05:49] <Solaris444> Random performance loss etc.
[05:49] <krishnandu> mysql client
[05:49] <krishnandu> login as admin
[05:49] <gartral> dm_: still around?
[05:50] <krishnandu> paris: mysql client, login as admin
[05:50] <dm_> gartral: barely
[05:50] <dm_> : /
[05:50] <Solaris444> anyways, have to go.  thanks everyone.
[05:50] <Docteh> nn ms hater :)
[05:50] <Solaris444> Oh, and don't use fakeraid.
[05:50] <Docteh> dont use fakeraid on linux either ;p
[05:50] <dm_> is that like hateraid but for fakers?
[05:50] <gixgix> new to ubuntu. sometimes a window will get stuck in "drag mode" (where the hand that's moving it has a clenched fist) and i can't drop the window anywhere. ideas?
[05:51] <Docteh> he's like a microsoftie, but the opposite, is there a term for that?
[05:51] <gixgix> Docteh: macrohardie
[05:51] <Docteh> gixgix: are you sure its not just the computer not noticing the mouse is released?
[05:51] <dm_> gartral: whats up
[05:51] <gixgix> dm_: nope!
[05:51] <gixgix> dm_: i mean, no, not sure
[05:51] <theadmin> Docteh: Restarting Metacity (or Compiz...) usually helps
[05:52] <dm_> oh i see gartral
[05:52] <dm_> gixgix wrong d bud
[05:52] <gartral> dm_: pm
[05:52] <Docteh> hehehe
[05:52] <gartral> Docteh: did you see my post
[05:52] <dm_> gartral: i got it, thanks
[05:52] <theadmin> gixgix: Sorry, the above was adressed to you
[05:52] <Docteh> gartral: aye
[05:52] <dm_> im out, laters
[05:53] <gartral> Docteh: now M$ shooting they're own balls off doesn't sound so far fetched, do it?
[05:53] <Docteh> gixgix: how do you end up putting the window down, and how often is this?
[05:53] <theadmin> gartral: Shall MS even destroy all open drivers so X will never work again... I will still stay with Linux
[05:54] <gixgix> Docteh: not sure. you know... i'm on a slow computer and it's in the middle of installing packages. i'll just wait a while!
[05:54] <Docteh> gixgix: try clicking the mouse once
[05:54] <Tazer> Hello, does anyone know how I can enable keypresses in Xscreensaver?
[05:54] <mneptok> gixgix: disable Compiz. most likely that's the issue.
[05:54] <gixgix> just curious to know if there's any kind of gesture i might accidentally be doing
[05:54] <gixgix> mneptok: got it. thanks
[05:55] <gartral> theadmin: could you rephrase that after passing it through a grammar filter please? i honestly cant tell what your saying with that statment other than "your staying with linux"
[05:55] <paris> krishnandu, For some reason I can not login into Admin. I know my password and Server Hostname, but for some reason I don't remember that I was setting Username. So...
[05:55] <mneptok> gixgix: System > Prefs > Appearance > Visual Effects (set to None)
[05:55] <gixgix> mneptok: yep. i'll try in a minute
[05:55] <Docteh> paris: sshd might have logging in as root disabled
[05:55] <theadmin> gartral: I'm just following with your and someone else's (pretty offtopic) anti-MS conversation :P
[05:56] <gixgix> btw, ubuntu is great once the network cards are working
[05:56] <Tazer> >:?
[05:56] <mneptok> Docteh: loggin in as root is disabled period in a default Ubuntu install, as root has no password set.
[05:56] <krishnandu> paris: ok for later use i'm saying you the procedure, you'll find import option(tab) there. Go to import and just select the files. Tat will be all
[05:56] <Tazer> Nobody? how about with gnome screensaver?
[05:56] <gartral> theadmin: i extrapelated that much.. but couldnt read the meaning of your sentence
[05:56] <krishnandu> paris: you'll see your tables in the right after a refresh
[05:56] <krishnandu> paris: sorry left
[05:56] <krishnandu> :)
[05:56] <Docteh> well thats one way to disable the account, but its disabled in the passwd file AND in the conf to start with
[05:57] <theadmin> gartral: What I mean is, whatever Microsoft will ever do shouldn't even remotely bother a Linux user (doesn't bother me)
[05:57] <paris> Docteh, please lead me in that?
[05:57] <vivek> guys i have been using the firefox version 3.0.17 , its not showing the chat list ,if i login to yahoo site ,
[05:58] <theadmin> vivek: 3.0.X? Just how old is that, really, use 3.6.X
[05:58] <Agu10> hi
[05:58] <Agu10> I installed ubuntu on virtualbox, but I can't enter the internet
[05:58] <Agu10> what should I do?
[05:58] <gartral> theadmin: meh, im just waiting for two things: magicjack, and bfbc2, to come to linux.. then i'll drop win7 like a hot pot0wnd
[05:59] <theadmin> Agu10: "enter the internet"? Not connecting, you mean?
[05:59] <Izinucs> Agu10: change vbox network settings from nat to bridged
[05:59] <Agu10> theadmin: I can't enter google or any webpage
[05:59] <Agu10> I'm not sure what's happening
[05:59] <gartral> Agu10: make sure your network interface in vbox isnt set to NAT, and make sure your system's firewall is set to allow vbox through
[05:59] <Docteh> paris: oh you're logging into mysql from local? username is root, should default to no password
[06:00] <theadmin> Agu10: Well, do what Izinucs said
[06:00] <Agu10> I have to choose some bridge
[06:00] <Agu10> I don't have any to choose from
[06:02] <paris> Docteh, It ask me in MySQL Admin. Server Hostname, Username and Password. the port by default is 3306
[06:03] <Docteh> paris: what does username root and password blank do?
[06:04] <Agu10> Izinucs, how can I do that? It doesn't allow me to accept without choosing any bridge adapter
[06:05] <circuitman> hi am having problem compiling a package from its source
[06:05] <Nilos> Got a deb file for a wireless adapter but I am not sure how to install it.
[06:05] <circuitman> please help me
[06:05] <Agu10> theadmin, what should I do?
[06:05] <paris> Docteh, It says 'Could not connect to host 'localhost' MySQL Error Nr.2005 and so on...
[06:06] <paris> Docteh, I have two option click OK or Ping Host in that.
[06:07] <theadmin> Agu10: Sorry, haven't used virtualbox in ages
[06:07] <Agu10> theadmin, it's ok
[06:10] <circuitman> i cant install the package called drivel from its source
[06:12] <v4_> hi
[06:13] <Agu10> so how do I choose a bridge network adapter in virtualbox ???
[06:14] <gartral> since NO ONE wants to put the name of an application ON the application in ubuntu... whats the name of the chat client in ubuntu by default?
[06:14] <circuitman> i cant install the package called drivel from its source
[06:14] <circuitman> i cant install the package called drivel from its source
[06:14] <circuitman> i cant install the package called drivel from its source
[06:14] <FloodBot1> circuitman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <theadmin> gartral: Empathy
[06:15] <gartral> theadmin: wheres the empathy support channel?
[06:15] <theadmin> gartral: No idea
[06:17] <merculiv> yay I got it fixed
[06:17] <merculiv> all with one terminal command too
[06:17] <iflema> gartral irc.gimpnet.org  room = #empathy
[06:17] <Phishing_Pharmer> one commanders are the best
[06:18] <merculiv> I just installed usb-modeswitch and vola
[06:18] <cortz> hi im a new babies
[06:18] <Nilos> I have the linux driver for the wireless network adapter, but need help installing it.
[06:19] <gartral> iflema: theres no such server
[06:19] <Lostinspace_46> My keyboard has no multimedia keys, however, I wish to make some "virtual" ones using xbindkeys.  I figured vol up and down.  I need to figure out next and pause. Any ideas?
[06:19] <gartral> iflema: your command just made irssi panic
[06:19] <iflema> gartral its not a command
[06:20] <iflema> gartral the server is gimpnet.org
[06:20] <iflema> gartral irc.gimpnet.org
[06:20] <gartral> iflema: /connect irc.gimpnet.org: result, "server not found"
[06:20] <cortz> @coolmadmax hi
[06:21] <IdleOne> gartral: remove :
[06:21] <ociugi> i have problem with lucid lynx on grub boot loading(dual boot) when i'm loading my windows it is only blank scree and blinking cursor
[06:22] <tripelb> Registration no longer needed for this channel?
[06:22] <gartral> IdleOne: Im not a moron.. i was using the colon for it's proper grammarical useage of seperating what i tried from it's result
[06:22] <IdleOne> gartral: did i say you are a moron?
[06:22] <Lostinspace_46> gartral: Xchat>Network list>gimpnet
[06:22] <IdleOne> gartral: btw I am getting same results
[06:22]  * iflema im in
[06:22] <tripelb> correction gartral - should be: I'm its and separating usage
[06:23] <gartral> Lostinspace_46: FUCK XCHAT! im sorry for swearing, but what that group is doing is purly unacceptable
[06:23] <IdleOne> gartral: irc.gimp.org
[06:23] <gartral> that wasnt very nice...
[06:23] <maverick_> can someone help me with problem in wine? http://paste.debian.net/73856
[06:23] <IdleOne> neither was your swearing
[06:24] <theadmin> maverick_: WINE support in #winehq
[06:24] <maverick_> theadmin: thanks
[06:24] <Lostinspace_46> gartral: whatever client you use...find network list and pick gimpnet
[06:24] <IdleOne> gartral: /connect irc.gimp.org
[06:24]  * iflema 37 odd..... outa there
[06:24] <gartral> IdleOne: i explained why i swore.. besides, i deal with kids and people from age 4+ who say every swear word known to man
[06:24] <gartral> Lostinspace_46: there is no such server
[06:25] <theadmin> gartral: Nevertheless swearing is not acceptable here.
[06:25] <tripelb> gartral, it is more creative not to swear. And to spell
[06:25] <theadmin> gartral: You break the second rule of CoC if you swear.
[06:25] <Lostinspace_46> gartral: Yes there is, I am looking at it
[06:25] <IdleOne> gartral: sorry after the fact does not excuse it. the fact that you took time to excuse yourself means you knew it was wrong. meaning you had the time to think about what you were doing and still chose to break the rules. as for the kids and people you work with. I don't care and if they come here and swear I will kick them also :)
[06:26] <thayer_> im trying to install ubuntu on a newer sony laptop and i cant get x to start at all. after grub i get black screen. i can get it to work with sabayon by editing xorg.conf in console mode, but i dont know how to get the live cd to boot into console mode
[06:26] <theadmin> thayer_: Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a terminal TTY
[06:26] <ScarabDrowner> Ok, how do I get Lucid to obey my power management settings?  Screensaver is disabled, monitors are set to *never* turn off, yet after 10 minutes of inactivity, the screen goes black anyway.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/43227559@N06/4610055273/sizes/o/
[06:26] <varun> upal-support
[06:27] <gartral> IdleOne: and would you not use the same language in reference to the former president of the united states? im sorry, but there are exceptions to every rule, the last time there wasnt, we had the USSR.
[06:27] <IdleOne> gartral: there are no exceptions to the rule here
[06:27] <thayer_> im pretty sure ive tried that but i will again, hoping for more suggestions
[06:27] <Lostinspace_46> gartral: What irc client are you using?
[06:27] <IdleOne> gartral: now drop it. /connect irc.gimp.org
[06:27] <gartral> IdleOne: there are exceptions to every rule, everywhere. Period.
[06:28] <theadmin> That's what you get for messing with the ops :D Thanks, IdleOne
[06:28] <Lostinspace_46> My keyboard has no multimedia keys, however, I wish to make some "virtual" ones using xbindkeys.  I figured vol up and down.  I need to figure out next and pause. Any ideas?
[06:31] <thayer_> theadmin: its not working
[06:31] <iomero> hola, me pueden ayudar con la actualizacion de 9.10 a 10.04 ubuntu
[06:31] <theadmin> thayer_: What is not working
[06:31] <ScarabDrowner> Ok, how do I get Lucid to obey my power management settings?  Screensaver is disabled, monitors are set to *never* turn off, yet after 10 minutes of inactivity, the screen goes black anyway.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/43227559@N06/4610055273/sizes/o/
[06:31] <theadmin> ubottu: es | iomero
[06:31] <onetinsoldier> ScarabDrowner: hello. i've seen a number of people say and ask the same thing you are. wish someone knew. i think it might have to do with 'xset' settings. but i don't know
[06:32] <gixgix> mac osx has a neat little shell command "open" that opens directories in its finder or opens files in their default program. is there an equivalent?
[06:32] <thayer_> ctrl+alt+f1
[06:32] <theadmin> gixgix: xdg-open
[06:32] <iomero> ubotu gracias
[06:32] <ScarabDrowner> thanks onetinsoldier
[06:32] <iflema> ScarabDrowner did you click on make default?
[06:32] <gixgix> theadmin: splendid thank you
[06:33] <ScarabDrowner> iflema: yes, I tried that also
[06:33] <Lostinspace_46> Alternatively, how do I find the actual command that, say, XF86Next generates?
[06:35] <trevor> does anyone know of a way to change ONLY the folder icons of the default ubuntu icons
[06:35] <luckymurali> Hi all
[06:35] <onetinsoldier> hello luckymurali
[06:36] <wildbat> ll
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:38] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> in kde , sometimes when I copy files from 1 partition to another , for some files it says could not read file  .......why ?
[06:39] <luckymurali> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bSBwsDU8
[06:39] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: Do you have the proper permissions?
[06:39] <drobiazgowy> Is talking about Linux Mint here forbidden? :D
[06:39] <silv3r_m00n> oho , but I think yes
[06:39] <luckymurali> I developed a script to create a service and shd start at start up
[06:39] <silv3r_m00n> 100 files , I copy pasted them earlier
[06:39] <onetinsoldier> drobiazgowy: yes... essentially
[06:40] <luckymurali> please tell me whetehr my script is ok or I need to make changes??
[06:40] <theadmin> drobiazgowy: Yes, not here.
[06:40] <silv3r_m00n> theadmin: can permissions change on the fly just like that
[06:40] <drobiazgowy> Anyway anyone knows what is statement of Canonnical about Linux MInt?
[06:41] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: On the fly? No. Try: sudo -R chmod ugo+r /folder/with/files/
[06:41] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: Make sure it's not a system folder though :/
[06:41] <theadmin> drobiazgowy: Not officially supported.
[06:41] <silv3r_m00n> theadmin: gr8 idea
[06:42] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: Err
[06:42] <Nilos> I have the linux driver for the wireless network adapter, but need help installing it.
[06:42] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: sudo chmod -R ugo+r /folder/with/files/
[06:43] <silv3r_m00n> even better
[06:44] <Ratty_> Anyone using QtSixa in Lucid?
[06:45] <Ratty_> I can't get it to work as keyboard/mouse, it never saves the setting
[06:45] <luckymurali> theadmin, I want to add two commands at the startup how can i do that??
[06:45] <drobiazgowy> Linux Mint is more a leech than a ubuntu based distro :P
[06:46] <theadmin> luckymurali: At startup of what exactly?
[06:46] <luckymurali> ubuntu start up
[06:46] <Xchat> hi, i don't have a menu.lst in /boot/grub, how do i edit the boot options to remove  a reference to XP and older kernel?
[06:46] <luckymurali> like autoexec.bat in windows
[06:46] <theadmin> luckymurali: /etc/rc.local if I recall correctly.
[06:46] <theadmin> Xchat: It's now grub.cfg
[06:46] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: the menu.lst is now grub.cfg
[06:46] <luckymurali> ok thanks :)
[06:47] <Xchat> oh. here it is. but is says not to edit the file.. ignore?
[06:47] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: to modify the menu use the /etc/grub.d/ files
[06:47] <onetinsoldier> Xchat: check in /etc/default (grub file) ... and in /etc/grub.d  personally, i don't like the new config layout of grub2
[06:47] <Xchat> let me see..
[06:47] <MichaelSOG> hi
[06:47] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: what type of modifications do you need?
[06:48] <PercyLucid> omg,this new ubuntu is not as fine as the others :/
[06:48] <MichaelSOG> is here a person who knows about rosegarden?
[06:48] <Xchat> just remove old kernel and reference to XP
[06:48] <snarkfish> is there a better place to find out about uuid, the man pages seem to leave alot to be desired.
[06:48] <snarkfish> like examples
[06:49] <gartral> IdleOne: in ANY case.. the commands you gave me have not let me connect to gimp.org's irc backend, and im subsequently discommunicated from the empathy group.
[06:49] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: I may be wrong but I would recomend doing the 40_custom file
[06:49] <luckymurali> theadmin, after added the two commands how do i update it??
[06:49] <luckymurali> on rc.local
[06:49] <theadmin> luckymurali: It should just work, no?
[06:49] <Xchat> well it doesn't contain much
[06:49] <luckymurali> no ok i close the terminal and open it again
[06:49] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: then sudo chmod +x /etc/grub.d/40_custom followed by sudo update-grub
[06:50] <theadmin> luckymurali: It's read at boot time, not on terminal start or something.
[06:50] <luckymurali> theadmin, no
[06:50] <luckymurali> ok
[06:50] <theadmin> luckymurali: What is read at terminal start is .bashrc
[06:50] <Xchat> that would clean the list?
[06:50] <luckymurali> now I restart my machine
[06:50] <fitzgen> Can anyone help me with making a lucid lynx bootable usb stick?
[06:50] <snarkfish> luckymurali: sudo reboot
[06:51] <snarkfish> fitzgen: penlinux.org
[06:51] <theadmin> fitzgen: We have a USB creator in the menu. There is also unetbootin
[06:51] <onetinsoldier> fitzgen: unetbootin is pretty straightforward
[06:51] <snarkfish> fitzgen: or install usbcreator
[06:52] <fitzgen> I followed http://www.linuxconfig.org/install-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-linux-from-usb-stick
[06:52] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: in order to modify Grub2 which is part of all Ubuntu from 9.10 and up you need to modify the files I told you about. Then you need to chmod them. To make changes take affect you need to do update-grub
[06:52] <snarkfish> can anyone explain uuid stuff to me..
[06:52] <fitzgen> but when I get to selecting a kernal from th mbr prompt it doesnt work
[06:52] <Xchat> i see, but the files don't contain anything regarding the entries i'm interested in removing.
[06:52] <fitzgen> theadmin: which menu is usb creator in?
[06:53] <onetinsoldier> fitzgen: i looked at your link.. wow, just use untebootin or one of the other utilities the other guys mentioned
[06:53] <onetinsoldier> oops.... unetbootin*
[06:53] <fitzgen> onetinsoldier: k
[06:53] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: go to the grub.cfg file copy the contents you want to make changes to. Then make changes in the 40_custom file
[06:54] <Xchat> ok thanks. i'll try and see what i can do.
[06:54] <LinuxPhreak> Xchat: I try to explain as best as I can. But if you still need help understanding the #grub channel is really helpful
[06:54] <snarkfish> wow no one knows what uuid is, or how to create one for a drive?
[06:55] <moetunes> !uuid
[06:55] <LinuxPhreak> snarkfish: sorry uuid is unique user id I remember making one in the past forget how I did it
[06:56] <snarkfish> LinuxPhreak: thanx
[06:57] <snarkfish> LinuxPhreak: least you answered. LOL
[06:57] <onetinsoldier> anyone here need an x-cursor-theme installed from .tar.gz? i can help :-)
[06:57] <LinuxPhreak> snarkfish: try blkid in terminal
[06:59] <fitzgen> onetinsoldier: What should I format the boot partition as?
[07:00] <onetinsoldier> fitzgen: well, i went with ext4 for all my partitions
[07:00] <fitzgen> that last tutorial said fat16 was best, but I dont know if I should trust them anymore....
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> fitzgen: this is on a hard drive install?
[07:01] <fitzgen> on a usb
[07:01] <fitzgen> stick
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> ohhh. dang, sorry
[07:01] <kamaris> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to resolve audio issue where "sudo aplay" outputs audio but "aplay" does not? also, inside my gnome session, i don't actually see any sound cards listed, but again, in the same session 'sudo aplay' works
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> go with fat16... sounds good
[07:01] <fitzgen> k thanks
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> unless you can get fat32.. probably better
[07:02] <LinuxPhreak> In my oppinion I prefer to format my usb drives with fat32. This is because alot of times I may need to use them on other computers
[07:03] <onetinsoldier> yeah.. fat32 would be preferred i think
[07:03] <moetunes> Kamaris: is your user in the audio group? -   groups   in terminal; will tell
[07:04] <Kamaris> moetunes, yes i added my user id to the group however, 1 sec, pasting error
[07:05] <Kamaris> aplay does not output audio, but it does return the line telling me it's playing the audio file
[07:05] <Kamaris> sudo aplay actually works, but outputs this error along with the aufio filename: "Home directory /home/kamaris not ours"
[07:06] <fitzgen> onetinsoldier: thanks for all the help, got it working :)
[07:06] <onetinsoldier> fitzgen: sweet. you're welcome. enjoy :-)
[07:06] <Hopeless8009> if i were to say i like eggs would that be off topic
[07:06] <Kamaris> "fgrep -ie 'audio' /etc/group" yields output "audio:x:29:pulse,kamaris"
[07:07] <onetinsoldier> lol Hopeless8009
[07:08] <Hopeless8009> Onetionsoldir: can you pint me to a IrC server where i can find some women
[07:09] <mneptok> !offtopic | Hopeless8009
[07:09] <arbo> lol
[07:09] <Hopeless8009> lol guess im going to Ubuntu offtopic
[07:10] <mneptok> bye now.
[07:10] <drobiazgowy> What is a command to remove unused dependencies?
[07:10] <moetunes> Kamaris: checked to see who owns the home folder for Kamaris ?
[07:10] <onetinsoldier> apt-get autoremove i think
[07:11] <Riverthief> Sup guys
[07:11] <Riverthief> I need some help
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> hello Riverthief, what's up?
[07:11] <Kamaris> moetunes: drwxr-xr-x 44 kamaris kamaris 4096 2010-05-18 23:22 kamaris
[07:11] <Riverthief> I need to remove Grub from my laptop, and restore the default windows 7 loader
[07:12] <mneptok> Riverthief: got Windows install media?
[07:12] <jabirali> drobiazgowy, sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:12] <Riverthief> Not for windows 7, other wise I would have done the fixmbr thing :p
[07:12] <Riverthief> I have vista
[07:13] <Riverthief> like
[07:13] <Riverthief> a vista cd
[07:13] <Riverthief> runnign win7 though
[07:13] <jabirali> Riverthief, you don't need to uninstall Grub, but you would have to let Windows install its bootloader
[07:13] <Kamaris> moetunes: /home is owned by root, /home/kamaris is owned by kamaris
[07:13] <jabirali> Riverthief, once Windows installs NTLDR (or whatever bootloader win7 is using), Grub will be ignored
[07:14] <Riverthief> So, would Vista install media work?
[07:14] <jabirali> Riverthief, I suspect the win install cd can do that for you, "recovery" or something
[07:14] <onetinsoldier> until he's in Linux and something triggers 'update-grub2', hehe
[07:14] <Riverthief> Just to fix the MBR and let me boot in?
[07:14] <Riverthief> k
[07:14] <jabirali> onetinsoldier, I thought that only updated /boot/grub/grub.cfg and not overwrote the MBR?
[07:15] <onetinsoldier> jabirali: i think it'll install it again. i could be wrong
[07:15] <moetunes> Kamaris: by the error you said you got the files in /home/kamaris must not be - at least some of them -   ls -la ~   to tell
[07:15] <jabirali> onetinsoldier, wouldn't you have to specifically run "grub-install (hd0)" to overwrite it? At least that's how it worked in grub1, but it might have changed.
[07:16] <jabirali> onetinsoldier, in grub1 the MBR (stage1) would only point to the location of the grub files on the system (stage2), which would contain all other settings
[07:16] <jabirali> onetinsoldier, and AFAIK update-grub only updated stage2
[07:16] <jabirali> onetinsoldier, but I might be wrong :)
[07:16] <onetinsoldier> jabirali: ok, roger
[07:17] <rocket16> Hello atroy1994, it is am, rocket16. You are welcome to our Ubuntu IRC.
[07:18] <rocket16> !hi | atroy1994
[07:19] <dyllan> Hi Guys. As a normal user I cannot change my default printer through gnome-cups-manager, if i start the app from the command line i see these errors when trying to set a default printer; ** (gnome-cups-manager:10359): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280
[07:21] <inayet> #drupal-support
[07:21] <atroy1994> hello
[07:21] <gartral> IdleOne: do you know much about the internal workings of empathy?
[07:21] <rocket16> Hello atroy1994
[07:21] <jabirali> dyllan, have you tried using the web interface instead? I personally prefer it, as it is more featureful
[07:22] <atroy1994> hello
[07:22] <jabirali> dyllan, visit http://localhost:631 to configure printers from your webbrowser
[07:22] <dyllan> hi jabirali, i also prefer the web interface, however it is not user friendly for the 200 users we have unfortunately, it will just confuse them.. .
[07:23] <tripelb> hi all: Problem: Monitor stuck at low resolution. Ubuntu 9.10  [Display preferences calls it UNKNOWN] [07:23] <tripelb> o /etc/X11/xorg.conf -->  Driver          "openchrome" <-- in section "Device"  [07:23] <jabirali> dyllan, 200 users? Why do you need to switch default printers as a user then?
[07:24] <tripelb> Hope that being thorough will get me help and get this worked out. TY
[07:24] <Hopeless8009> i cant find it
[07:24] <dyllan> jabirali, each users needs to be able to select their default printer, we have 4 branches, and at least 10 printers at each branch, users need to be able to set/ change their default printer as they require.
[07:25] <jabirali> dyllan, aha, I see. Changing the default printer in gnome-cups-manager changes the default for _all_ users though
[07:26] <jabirali> dyllan, that would configure what printer is used by default by the printer server
[07:26] <inayet> I just downloaded drupal 6 on ubuntu, but do not know where it went...
[07:26] <dyllan> jabirali, ok that makes sense now, no wonder a normal user cant set that, so how would a user set their default then?
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> inayet: check ~/Downloads
[07:26] <atroy1994> how is ubuntu pronounced?
[07:27] <gartral> dyllan: there IS an alternative, but it's not user friendly... you need to make custom rules for each user, and then, when they want to change printers, they must get ahold of an admin
[07:27] <MACscr_lappy> how do i use drivers like fglrx on the live cd when it requires a reboot? =P
[07:27] <dyllan> atroy1994, oooboontwo
[07:27] <rocket16> !ubuntu | atroy1994
[07:27] <gartral> MACscr_lappy: service restart gdm
[07:27] <switchgirl> hi i want to mount an iso i need to install Lucid - i have messed up settings on the current install so my question how to mount an iso and install without burning to cd or loosing files
[07:28] <inayet> onetinsoldier: how do I do that? is there a command?
[07:28] <moetunes> !iso | switchgirl
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> inayet: ls ~/Downloads
[07:28] <dyllan> gartral, why is there no easy way of doing it, doesnt make sense? KDE has an app to allow user to modify default printer, surely Gnome cant be far behind?
[07:28] <L33tCh> atroy1994, though don't draw out the ooo too much
[07:29] <atroy1994> are all of u developers?
[07:29] <rocket16> switchgirl: You can use gmount-iso too.
[07:29] <MACscr_lappy> atroy1994: of course not
[07:29] <onetinsoldier> atroy1994: no.. not at all
[07:29] <mostafakvd> hi there my usb laser mouse does not work how could I solve that?
[07:29] <mostafakvd> plz
[07:29] <jabirali> dyllan, I'm not quite sure... Are these users all on the same computer, or on different computers connected to a printer server by using /etc/cups/client.conf ?
[07:29] <rocket16> atroy1994: All are not, but some are. But most are users, who like to help others, and exchange words about Ubuntu.
[07:29] <dyllan> jabirali, they are all on the same computer
[07:30] <inayet> onetinsoldier - nothing happens when I enter ls ~/Downloads
[07:30] <rachel_> hello everyone
[07:30] <mostafakvd> hi there my usb laser mouse does not work how could I solve that?
[07:30] <gartral> dyllan: the main difference between KDE and gnome is KDE is monolithic in nature: all settins have a home in the KDE-settings-manager.. where in gnome, it's all modular, each setting has a GUI for it's functions.. this can cause certain lesser used functions to become.. neglected.. in gnome
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> inayet: ok, then it's not in there. do the following...  sudo updatedb
[07:30] <atroy1994> exept ubuntu, do they solve hardware probs?
[07:30] <switchgirl> rocket16, thanks
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> inayet: when that's done, try.... locate drupal
[07:31] <L33tCh> mostafakvd: I'd check for USB options in the BIOS, enable legacy if possible
[07:31] <dyllan> gartral, make some sense.
[07:31] <rachel_> is there anyone here knowledgeable about ubuntu on Acer laptops?
[07:31] <rocket16> switchgirl: My pleasure, :)
[07:31] <inayet> what does sudo stand for?
[07:31] <dyllan> gartral, although i would think writing an application to manage printers in Gnome would be easy for a python developer.
[07:31] <onetinsoldier> inayet: superuser do
[07:31] <red2kic> inayet: Please.
[07:32] <mostafakvd> L33tCh: beleive or not I simply plug out the power cord and wait just 3 min
[07:32] <mostafakvd> L33tCh: then all things work well
[07:32] <MACscr_lappy> gartral: lol, that didnt work out well. Now i dont have anything on the screen besdes console messages on the right. How can i access console since X isnt working anymore?
[07:32] <gartral> dyllan: smegit! it's 2:30 am here, that's as good a sensable post as your getting out of me
[07:32] <rachel_> my acer has a reoccuring problem ... it often hangs about 2 seconds into the boot sequence
[07:32] <inayet> onetinsoldier - how do I locate drupal ?
[07:32] <switchgirl> rocket16, :s
[07:32] <onetinsoldier> inayet: try.... locate drupal
[07:32] <dyllan> gartral, jabirali, my only saving grace here is that fortunately applications seem to revert to the most commonly used printer.
[07:32] <billybigrigger> can i setup a raid with 3 disks, 1x1TB and 2x500GB?
[07:32] <L33tCh> mostafakvd: ah, hmmm, that's an interesting one... keep working when you plug it back in?
[07:32] <mostafakvd> L33tCh: but here is the problem when this happens for u 10 times an hour then what should u do?
[07:33] <dyllan> gartral, hah, fair enough, thanks ;)
[07:33] <MACscr_lappy> billybigrigger: that doesnt even make sense
[07:33] <MACscr_lappy> what kind of raid are you even wanting?
[07:33] <onetinsoldier> inayet: you really might want to try --> http://linuxcommand.org/  :-)
[07:33] <snoopy> hi
[07:33] <snoopy> how do i install flash on a 64bit pc?
[07:33] <billybigrigger> well technically i could stripe them, and thats about it, right?
[07:33] <jabirali> dyllan, I'm googling ;). There was a tool called gnome-default-printer or something before, but it seems like it disappeared years ago :(
[07:34] <inayet> onetinsoldier: I got a lot of text
[07:34] <MACscr_lappy> snoopy: it installed fine for me by just using the installer
[07:34] <onetinsoldier> inayet: is drupal an install package? you install it?
[07:34] <MACscr_lappy> aka, the software manager
[07:34] <snoopy> really? which installer?
[07:34] <jabirali> dyllan, right now I'm trying to figure out if there's some way to set the defaults for all GTK apps or something
[07:34] <gartral> billybigrigger: yes.. and no.. you'll need to raid 1 the 2xtb in software, then raid 1 the softraid disks to your real 1tb in hardware.. but i warn you! this is SLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW
[07:34] <onetinsoldier> inayet: is drupal an installed* package? you install it?
[07:34] <rachel_> anyone?
[07:34] <inayet> onetinsoldier: Yeah I used the ubuntu software center
[07:35] <L33tCh> mostafakvd: it doens't sound to me like a driver issue or anything, though if it is, i'm affraid i won't be able to help just yet, but the first thing's i'd try are the BIOS options or even updating the BIOS of tha machine...
[07:35] <dyllan> jabirali, yup i also came across the gnome-default-printer but you are right it is no longer.. . im pretty stumped!
[07:35] <rocket16> atroy1994: We solve hardware problems, like issues with Ubuntu here. For example, suppose you have a drive not working with Ubuntu, in that case we can help you.
[07:35] <onetinsoldier> inayet: you can do... locate drupal | less   ....use 'q' key to quit out of less. page up and page up keys to page through... or arrow keys up and down to go one line at a time
[07:35] <inayet> onetinsoldier: its located at /usr/share/drupal6
[07:35] <onetinsoldier> inayet: page up and page down*
[07:35] <rachel_> rocket: are you able to help me?
[07:36] <mostafakvd> L33tCh: how could I update the BIOS?
[07:36] <mostafakvd> L33tCh: my laptop is VAIO VGN-FW390J
[07:36] <rocket16> rachel_: Me?
[07:36] <rocket16> rachel_: Sure, what is the problem?
[07:36] <rachel_> rocket: dunno, you said you help solve hardware problems right?
[07:37] <inayet> onetinsoldier: its also in /etc/drupal
[07:37] <billybigrigger> gartral, couldn't i setup all 3 disks in raid0?
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> inayet: since it's an installed package, you can also you the 'dpkg' command to list where it's installed files are, like so... dpkg -L drupal | less
[07:37] <rocket16> rachel_: Actually, I said that if any problem is related to Ubuntu and hardware, we might try to help you. If there is any specific problem, please do ask here, so that we can try to help here.
[07:38] <onetinsoldier> inayet: if you wondering where the executable is, try... dpkg -L drupal | grep bin
[07:38] <gartral> billybigrigger: you'll end up with 1.5 tb
[07:38] <L33tCh> mostafakvd: sony have an update utility if you just search for the model and go to the driver page.. only problem i see is that they only seem to have it as a winedows app
[07:38] <mikepq2008> How're y'all doing tonight?
[07:38] <inayet> onetinsoldier: I got the following message "Package `drupal' is not installed.
[07:38] <inayet> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[07:38] <inayet> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[07:38] <inayet> (END)
[07:38] <inayet> "
[07:38] <FloodBot1> inayet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <rachel_> rocker:  my problem is i have an acer 5520 laptop, when it boots it's perfect, but if often doesn't boot ... after the bios loads, about 1.3 seconds into the boot sequence it just hangs
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin | inayet
[07:39] <billybigrigger> gartral, why only 1.5tb?
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> inayet: try --> dpkg -l '*drup*' | grep ^ii
[07:39] <Sdp_Touro> #manaus
[07:39] <mikepq2008> Hi everybody, is there anybody here that knows a good channel to exchange blog info/critiques?
[07:39] <rocket16> rachel_: No problem. Just enter into Bios, while starting. Now, select the boot medium properly, and make reset the Bios to defaults.
[07:39] <inayet> its says Package 'bin' is not installed
[07:40] <jabirali> dyllan, seems like the "lp" commands at least listen to the environment variables PRINTER and LPDEST
[07:40] <Snarkster> im in a real pickle.. i cant seem to mount my raids
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> inayet: try --> dpkg -l '*drup*' | grep ^ii  ...show me the output
[07:40] <rachel_> rocket:  the boot medium properly?  do you mean the boot media?
[07:40] <jabirali> dyllan, try: PRINTER="printername" gedit
[07:40] <Snarkster> keeps telling me bad superblock
[07:40] <dyllan> jabirali, ok give me a sec
[07:40] <Snarkster> my raids are good, the partitions are still there but cant mount them
[07:40] <jabirali> dyllan, I'm not sure if Gnome apps also adhere to this, or if it's only for lp commands
[07:41] <rocket16> rachel_: Yes, just reset the settings to defaults. It might be of help.
[07:41] <dyllan> jabirali, ill try quick
[07:41] <inayet> onetinesoldier: ii  drupal6                                    6.16-1                                          a fully-featured content management framework
[07:42] <onetinsoldier> inayet: ok. do this then --> dpkg -L drupal6 | grep bin
[07:42] <inayet> onetinsoldier: Package `bin' is not installed.
[07:42] <inayet> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[07:42] <inayet> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[07:43] <rachel_> rocket: hmmm ... not sure about that ... i'm pretty sure the bios settings are fine.  why would it boot sometimes, and not others?  earlier this morning i tried to boot it by powering off and on again 15 times!  then tonight booted first time no probs ... no changes since by the way i hold my mouth?
[07:43] <onetinsoldier> inayet: dpkg -L drupal6 | grep bin
[07:43] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[07:44] <lyrae> i quit getting internet to work on ubuntu server with broadcom chipset
[07:45] <inayet> onetinsoldier: nothing happens
[07:45] <jabirali> smellynosery, what's the output of "setxkbmap -v"?
[07:45] <onetinsoldier> inayet: you're doing something wrong.. i don't know what
[07:45] <dyllan> jabirali, doesnt seem to work.. . appreciate the efforts though!
[07:45] <moza> Hi, i guess this is more a firefox problem, but any idea if i could do something so that the firefox process terminates without having to kill it?
[07:45] <onetinsoldier> inayet: do you now how to copy and paste from xchat to the command line?
[07:46] <inayet> onetinesoldier: yes
[07:46] <onetinsoldier> try copy and pasting in my command... it's all one line
[07:46] <onetinsoldier> inayet: dpkg -L drupal6 | grep bin
[07:46] <Cynthia> My computer, running Ubuntu Lucid i386, refuses to update the linux package using a regular 'apt-get upgrade' command. Let's assume I don't have access to a GUI (as I know the Update Manager works, from LiveCD use). What should I use to have 'linux' get upgraded?
[07:46] <rachel_> rocket: are you still here?
[07:46] <inayet> onetinesoldier: maybe if I log in as a root user? how do I do that ? sudo root
[07:46] <jabirali> dyllan, OK then I'm afraid I'm out of suggestions :)
[07:47] <onetinsoldier> inayet: sudo -i
[07:47] <onetinsoldier> inayet: you should not need that to this command though
[07:48] <dyllan> jabirali, no worries thanks for the help
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> if this isn't working for you, just try --> whereis drupal
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> or perhaps... whereis drupal6
[07:49] <inayet> onetinsoldier: drupal is in /etc/drupal
[07:50] <inayet> onetinsoldier: drupal6 is in /usr/share/drupal6
[07:50] <onetinsoldier> inayet: i'm sure it's in a lot of places. i really don't even know what your trying to do or what exactly it is your looking for. i might have missed it somewhere
[07:51] <moetunes> rachel_: sounds like a memory issue to me - you need to run memtest to check it
[07:51] <inayet> onetinsoldier: I want to install it on my computer.
[07:51] <tripelb> hi all: Problem: Monitor stuck at low resolution. Ubuntu 9.10  [Display preferences calls it UNKNOWN] [07:51] <tripelb> o /etc/X11/xorg.conf -->  Driver          "openchrome" <-- in section "Device"  [07:51] <rachel_> moetunes:  have you heard of the no-hlt startup parameter?
[07:51] <onetinsoldier> inayet: it is installed. you can see so by that earlier command you did...   dpkg -l '*drup*' | grep ^ii
[07:52] <tripelb> Please help me: this includes the answers to what I have been asked before.
[07:52] <rachel_> has anyone heard of the no-hlt startup parameter?
[07:52] <moetunes> rachel_: nope
[07:52] <rachel_> moetunes:  i don't think it's a memory problem.
[07:52] <onetinsoldier> inayet: dpkg -l drupal6   ...will show whether or not it's installed
[07:52] <moetunes> rachel_: k - it's your machine :]
[07:53] <disappearedng> how come sudo start mysql takes FOREVER to load? (it still hasn't finished)
[07:53] <inayet> onetinsoldier- how do I access it and start building a website? like going to http://localhost ???
[07:53] <tripelb> I want to install sensors in my gnome. My gnome is 2.28.1 and the sensors panel app requires 2.8 desktop. Can I get that in Ubuntu?  What's the difference?
[07:53] <onetinsoldier> inayet: also try --> whereis drupal   -or perhaps-   whereis drupal6
[07:53] <inayet> onetinsoldier: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[07:53] <inayet> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[07:53] <inayet> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[07:53] <inayet> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[07:53] <inayet> +++-[07:53] <FloodBot1> inayet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <inayet> ii  drupal6        6.16-1         a fully-featured content management framewor
[07:56] <inayet> onetinsoldier: I have located the folder where my drupal6 is, it is //usr/share/drupal6 . The question that I have how can I start using it ?
[07:57] <inayet> onetinsoldier: in Windows (which I do not like)  there is a .exe file that you can click on and it walks you through installing a program.
[07:57] <denis_> hi 2 all
[07:58] <denis_> i need help just a little
[07:58] <denis_> can someone send me software sources, scince i accidentally deleted them
[07:58] <MACscr_lappy> so what drivers does ubuntu use by default for a system that has an ati card?
[07:58] <denis_> please
[07:58] <denis_> the regural one
[07:59] <denis_> Mac, the ubuntu developers create 1 , and test it
[07:59] <denis_> if it doesn't find it , that means it doesn't exist
[07:59] <denis_> but
[07:59] <denis_> google for it
[07:59] <Cynthia> denis_: specifically, what do you want? the default sources.list file?
[07:59] <denis_> yep
[08:00] <denis_> p.s
[08:00] <denis_> my cd-rom is broken
[08:00] <pc07> hi ihr arschgesichter
[08:00] <denis_> I wouldn't bother u
[08:00] <MACscr_lappy> denis_: stop using the enter key for punctuation, sheesh
[08:00] <pc07> reparier sie
[08:00] <denis_> sorry for flood)
[08:00] <inayet> I've download drupal6 on my ubuntu. Now how do I use it?
[08:01] <denis_> the drupal cms?
[08:01] <pc07> whio are you
[08:01] <denis_> me?
[08:01] <inayet> denis_: yes
[08:01] <pc07> hey denis
[08:01] <denis_> how to quote???
[08:02] <denis_> inayet you should download a server just like in windows
[08:02] <denis_> try LAMPP
[08:02] <MACscr_lappy> running drupal locally is retarded
[08:02] <inayet> denis_: Drupal6 is located at /usr/share/drupal6 when I click on install.php a window comes up with code...
[08:02] <MACscr_lappy> last thing we need is more people running insecure servers
[08:02] <denis_> why? i do develop on local.
[08:02] <ziga__> anyone from bug squad here?
[08:02] <Cynthia> MACscr_lappy: running anything locally is good for staging
[08:03] <Cynthia> You can test and develop without fear that someone will take advantage of a flaw in your current development efforts, etc.
[08:03] <denis_> +1
[08:03] <denis_> so will someone give me softwaresources.list file?
[08:04] <denis_> please
[08:04] <MACscr_lappy> Cynthia: do you really think that someone that cant figure out how to install drupal and get it to work knows anything about dev and security? =P
[08:04] <Cynthia> denis_: I'm working on pastebinning it. I forgot that I was on Karmic and not Lucid. I'm booting a VM into Lucid now. :)
[08:04] <disappearedng> Hey I did "start on (net-device-up IFACE=ethX" on mysql.conf but nothing changed, any help
[08:04] <noren> hi guys. i am having trouble getting into x after upgrading to lucid, it was working fine in karmic, now it just goes blank, any help please to correct  it
[08:05] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: not in a good mood mate?
[08:05] <noren> is there something extra i have to install to get it working
[08:06] <ziga__> internet in lucid lynx runs very slowly
[08:06] <Cynthia> denis_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/435980/
[08:06] <ziga__> can one fix this?
[08:06] <Cynthia> disappearedng: if you typed it exactly like you just did in this channel, you're missing a )
[08:06] <denis_> cynthia can you please tell me the comand to gedit this file
[08:07] <noren> ziga__: may be its the pron with ur dns, change it to 208.67.222.222
[08:07] <disappearedng> Cynthia: there's also           and local-filesystems)
[08:07] <MACscr_lappy> moetunes: my mood isnt bad, i just dont think people should be running servers locally. Its fine if its lan based, but a lot of these kids open ports 25 and port 80 for public use and have no idea what they are doing
[08:07] <Cynthia> denis_: uh, `gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list`?
[08:07] <Cynthia> er, whoops. sources.list, not sources/list
[08:07] <MACscr_lappy> thus get exploited and are a source of ddos, spam, etc, etc
[08:07] <disappearedng> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/215591/ Cynthia: my current conf
[08:07] <ziga__> no, no not just here anywhere..mail, downloading, youtube...everything is slow
[08:07] <Jordan_U> MACscr_lappy: But then where will I find my open relays?
[08:08] <MACscr_lappy> Jordan_U: lol
[08:08] <Cynthia> MACscr_lappy: you're debating exploits in local configurations. Local servers are more secure than public servers.
[08:08] <Cynthia> Just let go, please? :)
[08:08] <denis_> thx) a lot. I was right, some1 or something cleaned my sources.list))
[08:08] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: it was more the tone then the point i was commenting on and it wasn't just that post - but if you say you're fine then ok
[08:08] <MACscr_lappy> well obviously something that isnt open to the internet is a bit more secure =P
[08:08] <noren> i cant figure out how to get my xserver get woring again. please any suggestion
[08:08] <denis_> good work team =)
[08:09] <disappearedng> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/215591/ Can I check if other people's /etc/init/mysql.conf is same as mine?
[08:09] <MACscr_lappy> moetunes: but yes, i am a bit frustrated. been working days trying to get my 3 monitors to work with ubuntu
[08:09] <marco_111> hello there who can help me? i have problem with ubunti
[08:09] <Cynthia> disappearedng: Do you have a device named literally ethX? If not, (see 'ifconfig -a' to check) you'll have to replace the X in mysql.conf:6 to be a digit
[08:09] <MACscr_lappy> i either need to quit and go back to windows (God i hope not) or i have to figure it i out
[08:09] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: I have a post that might help - one min
[08:09] <Cynthia> disappearedng: (+) My configuration would have eth0.
[08:09] <noren> xserver was working fine in karmic but goes to blank after the lucid upgrade
[08:10] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[08:10] <marco_111> im getting this error please help :(
[08:10] <marco_111> No Root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu
[08:10] <MACscr_lappy> moetunes: id be surprised if i hadnt seen it, but i do appreciate it
[08:10] <Cynthia> (Repeat from 24 min ago) My computer, running Ubuntu Lucid i386, refuses to update the linux package using a regular 'apt-get upgrade' command. Let's assume I don't have access to a GUI (as I know the Update Manager works, from LiveCD use). What should I use to have 'linux' get upgraded?
[08:10] <disappearedng> Cynthia: still doesn't work http://paste.pocoo.org/show/215592/
[08:10] <bilge_21> Hi! How to add to Eclipse the OpenJDK on Ubuntu ? It can see the SunJava but no the openjdk.. :(
[08:10] <marco_111> Here is the screenshot : http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6527/screenshotpr.png
[08:11] <marco_111> can anyone help me?
[08:11] <xeross_> Somehow my programs keep closing, normally it would happen when one runs out of RAM memory but only 40% of it is being used
[08:11] <marco_111> anybody?
[08:11] <moetunes> Cynthia: does it give an error - what makes you think there is an update to linux available?
[08:11] <Cynthia> disappearedng: You've edited the configuration to be correct, great - but it still won't start until eth0 goes up, which means it has to go back down first. Reboot to test, or issue 'sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0'
[08:12] <marenostrum> Hello. Ubuntu 9.10 here. I've had Miro (Internet TV) installed. Today, - I believe that after the updates related with gdm, xserver-common, xserver-xorg-core - Miro is uninstalled without any warning or something like that. Any idea?
[08:12] <marco_111> the first time im installing Ubuntu and got this error :(
[08:12] <Cynthia> moetunes: These packages have been held back: linux linux-image linux-image-generic
[08:12] <tripelb> My monitor is stuck at 600x800 even though the specs say it can do 1280 x 1024 -- can you help?
[08:12] <Cynthia> Appears in apt-get upgrade's output
[08:12] <marco_111> How can i solve this error message "No Root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[08:12] <disappearedng> Cynthia: how come when I am getting: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. when I do a `sudo ifup eth0`
[08:13] <disappearedng> ifconfig lists eth0 and lo as interfaces
[08:13] <moetunes> Cynthia: isn't that because you use the 386 one?
[08:13] <MACscr_lappy> moetunes: my biggest problem are 1) i have two different model ati cards (3200 and 4850) 2) i need to be able to use all 3 at the same time. Aka, move windows between them all, etc. I dont think xrandr supports mutiple gpu's (note: im not trying to do any type of crossfire or anything like that)
[08:13] <Cynthia> tripelb: To help with that problem, we need to know what the brand of your video chipset is, e.g. nVidia, ATI, Trident etc.
[08:13] <tripelb> Cynthia, My video card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)]
[08:14] <Cynthia> moetunes: I do use the i386 kernel, and the install is i386
[08:15] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: it is not something i tried but afaik you have two devices in xorg.conf and list them in the serverlayout section as per that link I posted
[08:17] <inayet> Need help. When I enter $ sudo tasksel
[08:18] <inayet> I want to install LAMP server which is number 10. I enter 10, but then get the following message, "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[08:18] <inayet> "
[08:20] <red2kic> Anybody here got spare time to play PyScrabble for fun? :)
[08:21] <tjingboem> i have a sample that i play, then modify it somewhat and give it another name, try to play it again but it fails to play. is this a permission thing?
[08:21] <tripelb> i'll try again another day
[08:21] <inayet> What does, "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" mean ?
[08:21] <Cynthia> tripelb: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1481204&page=2 (page 2, reply 9 by user Grenage)
[08:22] <MACscr_lappy> hmm, i just reinstalled ubuntu, but now my system isnt booting ad its just sitting at Boot from cd/dvd:. No errors or anything. I dont even have a disc in the dvdrom either. any ideas what i might look for?
[08:22] <dean[w]> Why would gnome-power-man process be using so much memory?
[08:22] <dean[w]> it's using 130MB atm and over 500mb virtual
[08:22] <moetunes> Cynthia: have you tried   sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-image-generic   or trying from update and upgrade?
[08:23] <Cynthia> moetunes: Only an update && upgrade command
[08:24] <elric> Anybody know how to fix the crackling sound?
[08:24] <moetunes> Cynthia: if your present kernel isn't a generic one apt won't upgrade to the generic afaik - you can do the apt-get install if you want
[08:25] <Cynthia> moetunes: Problem solved, thanks :) I didn't know that apt-get's install could also upgrade
[08:25] <moetunes> heh k Cynthia
[08:26] <Kovis> U need to run two instances of tomcat as root user. However modifying the /etc/init.d/tomcat6 to start the second instance doesn't seem to be trivial. Has someone done something similar?
[08:27] <Kovis> U=I :)
[08:27] <Cynthia> inay... inayet is gone, shame
[08:27] <noren> need help here cant get the display working in the LUCID after upgrade from karmic
[08:28] <noren> any ideas how to see and configeure the xserver settings in lucid
[08:29] <moetunes> noren: best to find out why it failed - read the X log?
[08:29] <noren> moetunes: where to find them??
[08:29] <Ileden> How do I switch to use a different video driver? My video card is "ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)" and in xorg.conf I have "Driver "ati"". If I understand correctly there's another driver called "radeon" available, and I would like to try if that fixed the problems I'm having. Can I switch to using it by simply changing the line in xorg.conf, or is there something more I need to do?
[08:29] <moetunes> noren:   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:30] <Cynthia> Ileden: you should be able to do just that, yes
[08:30] <noren> moetunes: lemme check there
[08:30] <moetunes> k
[08:30] <Cynthia> noren: Are you using an nVidia card?
[08:30] <Ileden> Cynthia: thanks!
[08:31] <lanoxx> hi, for some reason firefox doesnt show pdfs anymore, i have to download the pdf and open it manually, it used to open it inline before
[08:31] <Cynthia> lanoxx: What change occurred between "before" and "now"?
[08:32] <Cynthia> Did you reinstall Ubuntu and have a certain inline viewer installed before? Were you on Windows? [afaik the default is to open the document externally with Evince]
[08:34] <habanany> I need help with grub
[08:34] <HammerHead66> http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
[08:34] <rachel_> i need help with my laptop
[08:35] <viliny__> rachel_: whats up?
[08:35] <HammerHead66> please just ask what you need help with
[08:35] <jabirali> lanoxx, opening it inline probably means you had "acroread" installed, it comes with a firefox plugin
[08:35] <rachel_> viliny:  my laptop hangs when i boot ubuntu
[08:35] <HammerHead66> what does it say on screen?
[08:35] <jabirali> lanoxx, try: sudo apt-get install acroread
[08:35] <viliny__> rachel_: has it always done this or just recently started doing it?
[08:35] <habanany> what should i do here # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
[08:35] <habanany> # /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[08:35] <habanany> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[08:35] <habanany> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[08:35] <FloodBot1> habanany: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <rachel_> viliny: i installed ubuntu 10.04 recently ...
[08:36] <rachel_> viliny:  it doens't always hang ... only sometimes
[08:36] <rachel_> viliny:  but i tied it 15 times today and it hung every time, but tonight booted with no problems
[08:36] <viliny__> rachel_: i had the same problem on my laptop when 10.04 was a release candidate - newer version however worked. I have no idea how to fix your problem though, maybe someone more experienced can give you a way to debug it and try and fix it
[08:37] <rachel_> viliny:  how do i get someone's attention?
[08:37] <a3ist> rachel:  I just tabbed over; where are you hanging and do you have intel integrated graphics
[08:37] <[Screamo]> Anyone know of a good place to find themes for 10.04?
[08:38] <a3ist> gnome-look.org
[08:38] <rachel_> a3inst: tabbed over?
[08:38] <a3ist> was in another channel
[08:38] <a3ist> missed the start of the convo
[08:38] <viliny__> rachel_: most likely multiple channels open represented in tabs at the bottom of the screen in irc-client
[08:38] <rachel_> k
[08:39] <a3ist> was actually 4 workspaces over, in another distribution of linux via virtualbox :P
[08:39] <rachel_> a3ist:  r u an expert?
[08:39] <viliny__> rachel_: my guess is you need to boot ubuntu in a way that lets you see what it does and where it hangs, don't remember how thats done right now though
[08:39] <viliny__> a3ist: this is typed into a vbox running on a work computer ;)
[08:39] <a3ist> rachel_ that's a bit of a relative term :P  But I had a problem with the system hanging at a black screen on my laptop after installing Lucid
[08:39] <rachel_> what did you do about it?
[08:39] <HammerHead66> go into grub went it starts up
[08:40] <a3ist> viliny__, I'm setting up arch in a vb test env before I try switchin my laptop over to it
[08:40] <viliny__> a3ist: sounds like a good idea
[08:40] <a3ist> rachel_:  I have intel graphics (855gm) and had to enable the boot param "i915.modeset=1"
[08:40] <noren> http://pastebin.com/xzxyAvse << this is my Xorg.log i cant make any head or tail.. please help
[08:40] <a3ist> you can add it through the grub menu for a once-only execution, or to /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub to make it permanent
[08:40] <rachel_> a3ist:  how did you find out that u needed to do that?
[08:41] <a3ist> if, that is, you have intel graphics and that is the particular problem:  hanging after grub but pre-GDM
[08:41] <jabirali> [Screamo], gnome-look.org, art.gnome.org
[08:41] <a3ist> rachel_:  Because I realized I could boot in recovery mode into low graphical mode, and realized it had disabled the video drivers.
[08:41] <a3ist> rachel_, didn't take long to trace it back, google to find the applicable package, and force the default via grub
[08:41] <lanoxx> jabirali,
[08:41] <viliny__> rachel_: do you have intel gfx?
[08:41] <rachel_> mine doesn't even get that far
[08:41] <lanoxx> jabirali, im reinstalling it now
[08:42] <rachel_> nivida
[08:42] <viliny__> i had nvidia too.
[08:42] <moetunes> noren: <a3ist> rachel_:  I have intel graphics (855gm) and had to enable the boot param "i915.modeset=1"
[08:42] <danmart> Hi, how to make the Russian language in gvenview in my ubuntu 10.04?
[08:42] <a3ist> rachel_, you could try removing the "silent" options and see if you get more verbose output during boot
[08:42] <rachel_> i mean it does sometimes, i'm using it now for example, but often it doesn't.  today 15 times in a row it didn't boot then tonight it booted fine
[08:42] <noren> moetunes: how can i do that i m new here !!
[08:42] <rachel_> i've removed the silent options
[08:43] <moetunes> noren: do you see the boot menu when the comp starts?
[08:43] <viliny__> rachel_: do you get any output then? and have you tried upgrading nvidia drivers?
[08:43] <noren> moetunes: i can get to the recovery mode but theres no option to change the display
[08:44] <HammerHead66> http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
[08:44] <a3ist> rachel_, also can you boot into recovery mode's low-graphical session, and does that have the same problems?  You could try purging the drivers and reinstalling them as well
[08:44] <rachel_> viliny:  i've upgraded the nvidia drivers. video is fine.  i thought it had something to do with the no-hlt parameter ...
[08:45] <Cynthia> rachel_: Are you using the binary nVidia driver by any chance? And did you just update your kernel?
[08:45] <bodinux> Hi my new kernel fails to boot
[08:45] <moetunes> noren: if you select the normal ubuntu kernel to boot into and hit the   e   button you can edit the kernel parameter and add the modeset
[08:45] <noren> moetunes: simply additionally type modeset there
[08:45] <Cynthia> bodinux: Fails how? What version of the kernel did you get, or build? What options did you give to 'make menuconfig' for the kernel, if applicable?
[08:46] <moetunes> noren: you need to add   i915.modeset=1   apparently - then press b to boot
[08:46] <noren> lemme me try that and then come back here,
[08:46] <noren> exit
[08:46] <moetunes> a3ist: knows about it
[08:46] <moetunes> noren
[08:47] <bodinux> Cynthia : I installed 10.4, then configured my computer with the partitions and stuff, updated all the packages, and now upon boot, I have a list of text displayed on the monitor, then black screen, then nothing, no answer from the keyboard (caps lock doesn't even light the led)
[08:47] <dekroning> which Xorg version does the latestet ubuntu use? (10.04)
[08:47] <a3ist> noren:  To pass the i915.modeset=1 parameter you'd press E at the grub menu, and add that to the same line as "quiet" and "splash"
[08:48] <moetunes> a3ist: he left
[08:48] <Cynthia> bodinux: What is the text displayed? Take a picture of it with a camera and post it somewhere as needed, or use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to type it out and give us a link
[08:48] <bodinux> Cynthia, I did the install already twice, twice ,the same problem. Installation on my other computer (laptop) just goes fine.
[08:48] <danmart> кому нибудь можно вопрос по русски задать?
[08:48] <a3ist> dekroning, ii  xserver-xorg    1:7.5+5ubuntu1      the X.Org X server
[08:49] <Medievalchips2> davai
[08:49] <Medievalchips2> :)
[08:49] <a3ist> ii  xserver-xorg-core                     2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7                                Xorg X server - core server
[08:49] <dekroning> a3ist: thanks
[08:49] <moetunes> !ru | danmart
[08:49] <Medievalchips2> danmart davai
[08:49] <bodinux> Cynthia, I should be able to access the text because I can boot on another partition to 9.10, but I don't know where to find it
[08:49] <nikolam> Bah, anyone had a problem with recognising dirs over SMB?
[08:49] <alkisg> I'm looking at a security problem, how can one take advantage of a suid root bash?
[08:49] <alkisg> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root   root   800K 2010-05-19 10:47 bash
[08:50] <a3ist> nikolam:  I did after linux, but I just switched to an all-ssh linux setup anyway
[08:50] <nikolam> Sometimes, it follows linked dirs inside shared dir, sometimes dont
[08:50] <[Screamo]> nikolam, you mean like instead for say music it come up with a bunch of letters and numbers?
[08:50] <[Screamo]> err
[08:50] <nikolam> [Screamo],  no, when browsing Smb share from annother computer, it gives no access to linked dir, but access denied
[08:50] <Medievalchips2> danmart nu tam est
[08:51] <Cynthia> bodinux: then your problem is probably a grub configuration mistake that the installer made
[08:51] <[Screamo]> yea ive got the problem to
[08:51] <nikolam> and in some other time, it works fine. and then dont
[08:51] <[Screamo]> i think i fixed it by switching to root and sharing from there
[08:51] <Cynthia> bodinux: (+) do you know if you're using grub or grub2?
[08:51] <bodinux> Cynthia : well the computer starts to boot on 10.4 then freezes, so I think that grub is ok
[08:52] <bodinux> Cynthia grub2
[08:52] <nikolam> [Screamo], how you ¨switched to root¨
[08:52] <[Screamo]> sudo nautilus
[08:52] <[Screamo]> er
[08:52] <[Screamo]> gksudo*
[08:52] <danmart> ubottu, moetunes, Medievalchips2 SPS, za otklik
[08:52] <Cynthia> bodinux: then I have no more ideas, anyone else? (bodinux's problem is 10.04 not booting right in a multiboot, for the record)
[08:53] <noren> moetunes: thnks it worked now please tell me how to make that a permanent entry there
[08:53] <[Screamo]> But im in a drug induced haze, so dont quote me on that nikolam
[08:53]  * UT8F Sveiki
[08:53] <[Screamo]> heh /
[08:53] <moetunes> noren: a3ist might have the better clue on that
[08:53] <bodinux> Cynthia : do you know where I can find the log file from the boot.
[08:53] <danmart> ubottu, moetunes, Medievalchips2 sps za otklik
[08:53] <Medievalchips2> danmart np
[08:53] <a3ist> noren:  Just a sec and I'll paste the right line to modify
[08:54] <moetunes> danmart: in english pls
[08:54] <Cynthia> bodinux: check /var/log/, files faillog, syslog and messages
[08:54] <noren> a3ist: ok waiting
[08:54] <zenger> I have a question. How can I make wine work with a NTFS file system. I use Ubuntu 9.10 + a HDD of 20 GB EXT4 + an extra HDD 40 GB NTFS with lots of information. The problem is that when i try to run a program from wine it gives me an error (Can not find ....) but when I copy from NTFS TO EXT4 it runs perfect
[08:54] <moetunes> danmart:   /join #ubuntu-ru
[08:54] <Medievalchips2> :)
[08:54] <UT8F> Hi everybody
[08:54] <a3ist> noren, in the file "/etc/default/grub", change this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[08:54] <bodinux> Cynthia : thanks , I'll take look and come back later :)
[08:54] <Medievalchips2> yo
[08:54] <[Screamo]> zenger, try removing any spaces out of the folders on the NTFS drive
[08:54] <a3ist> to this:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"  and then run "sudo update-grub"
[08:55] <Severity1> bodinux, you can boot to 9.10 but not on 10.04?
[08:55] <UT8F> I'm having a problem, when I tried to change root password with sudo passwd root, password dont changes
[08:55] <bodinux> Severity1: yes, computer starts to boot on 10.04 then freezes
[08:55] <[Screamo]> zenger,  for instance C:/Program files/itunes/itunes.exe wouldnt run unless i changed it to C:/Programfiles/itunes/itunes.exe
[08:55] <UT8F> Still i must enter an old password
[08:55] <noren> रर
[08:56] <noren> त
[08:56] <zenger> [Screamo]>, it doesn't work the name is "FG."
[08:56] <noren> यौहगी
[08:56] <lanoxx> jabirali, purgin it and reinstalling it worked
[08:56] <zenger> hm.....
[08:56] <Medievalchips2> noren what language is that
[08:56] <Medievalchips2> lol
[08:56] <blackratdog> hindi?
[08:56] <zenger> i will try it
[08:56] <jabirali> lanoxx, good :)
[08:56] <[Screamo]> zenger, do they run if you right click> open with wine?
[08:56] <Medievalchips2> cool
[08:56] <MACscr_lappy> is there anything i can do short of a complete reinstall again to get my system to even attempt to boot? right not its not even getting to grub and no errors. My system just sits right after the bios actiing like its about to boot a cd even though there is no cd in the cdrom, etc
[08:57] <Medievalchips2> Have someone made cs 4 work on ubuntu with wine ???
[08:57] <a3ist> MACscr, reinstall and this time make sure to verify the checksum on the disc first
[08:57] <Severity1> bodinux, have you tried going to recovery mode?
[08:57] <iceroot> !appdb | Medievalchips2
[08:57] <[Screamo]> Medievalchips, i have, but you are better off running CS2
[08:57] <MACscr_lappy> a3ist: ive installed from this disk 12 times in the past few days
[08:57] <bodinux> Severity1: No, do I do that by selecting the second line in grub selection box ?
[08:58] <a3ist> MACscr_lappy, any weird hard drive setups that might need drivers?  raid setups or anything
[08:58] <Severity1> yup
[08:58] <Severity1> bodinux, yup
[08:58] <L33tCh> MACscr_lappy: may be a silly question, but you checked it's trying to boot from teh correct drive?
[08:58] <Medievalchips2> screamo yeah but it my studies require cs4
[08:58] <Medievalchips2> i am off playing football yay
[08:58] <Jenshae> Greetings. I am a mouse happy Linux newbie. I just managed to install WinXP onto C: with a D: partition for applications, storage and such. I remembered to make two partition for Linux, so there was a swap point.
[08:58] <bodinux> Severity1, okay I'll try
[08:58] <zenger> [Screamo] , it works
[08:58] <[Screamo]> Medievalchips, how fast is you cpu and how much ram you have?
[08:58] <zenger> but why so?
[08:58] <zenger> how to fix it?
[08:58] <Jenshae> However, I think I messed up the boot file
[08:59] <[Screamo]> zenger, i have no clue =/
[08:59] <MACscr_lappy> L33tCh: yes, the system was booting fine 30 mins ago before i reinstalled
[08:59] <Jenshae> Is there a manual fix for it? To move it to the right place. The slave machine is really slow and I don't want to re-install.
[09:00] <Jenshae> Oh and what is a good Windows client to SSH?
[09:00] <[Screamo]> Jenshae, Putty
[09:00] <Jenshae> Thanks [Screamo]
[09:00] <[Screamo]> Jenshae, http://putty.very.rulez.org/download.html
[09:00] <Jenshae> Now, anyone know how or where or what I do to manually set up the boot file to find my Linux partition and dual boot?
[09:01] <L33tCh> MACscr_lappy: ok, but to be sure, have you brought up the menu at boot to try select the drive manually since the reinstall? long shot i know, but somethign else to try
[09:01] <Jenshae> Thank you.
[09:01] <MACscr_lappy> L33tCh: yes
[09:01] <Ddorda> is there a way to share empathy data to ubuntu one?
[09:01] <MACscr_lappy> ive already tried that
[09:01] <Cynthia> zenger: Does your NTFS volume mount at boot-time? If so, does your /etc/fstab file say umask=700, denying execute access to everyone but root?
[09:02] <zenger> not sure what this means
[09:02] <L33tCh> MACscr_lappy: ok, can't think of anything else atm...
[09:02] <zenger> yes it denyes every1 except root ( requires pwd)
[09:02] <vasiph> hi All!
[09:03] <Cynthia> zengar: Then to run applications in Wine from that NTFS volume, you must be root, or sudo
[09:03] <onetinsoldier> Jenshae: i don't know if this would help you, but you can check it out if you want... http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[09:04] <devkhadka> is there any software to handle fake payment gateway so that i  can test  my  payments during development
[09:04] <Jenshae> Thanks  onetinsoldier, I think what I need to read up on is how GRUB works.
[09:04] <[Screamo]> Cynthia, but they wont run if the /path/to/file.exe has spaces in ti =/
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> Jenshae: ok, roger that
[09:04] <vasiph> i can`t use wireless by the Ubuntu
[09:04] <vasiph> help me plzzz
[09:04] <Cynthia> [Screamo]: wine "C:/Program Files/Path with Spaces/main.exe" (with quotes)
[09:05] <Jenshae> Any basic IRC commands to suppress the login and log offs from the channel?
[09:05] <[Screamo]> Cynthia, i did, and it would not run it unless i removed the spaces, but yet it would run if i right clicked the file and told it to open with wine
[09:05] <zenger> hmm
[09:05] <[Screamo]> hmmm
[09:05] <zenger> so I can use the terminal
[09:05] <MACscr_lappy> Jenshae: you dont login to channels really, you do that to the actual server
[09:05] <zenger> thx
[09:06] <Cynthia> vasiph: first things first, could you run 'lshw -C network' in a terminal and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[09:06] <MACscr_lappy> Jenshae: are you wanting to know how to join them?
[09:06] <[Screamo]> Jenshae, youll have to look around in settings, maybe in events or something
[09:06] <Cynthia> (Jenshae is using Pidgin)
[09:06] <Jenshae> I can join. I just want to filter out all the messages of people logging in and out of this channel
[09:06] <MACscr_lappy> Jenshae: nvm, im blind
[09:06] <[Screamo]> i think he wants to hide joins/parts
[09:06] <Jenshae> *Nods*
[09:07] <MACscr_lappy> Jenshae: depends on your client of course. Pidgin has an option for it within plugins
[09:07] <zenger> hey
[09:07] <zenger> you can try QutIm
[09:07] <Jenshae> However, that will suppress all of them across the other servers?
[09:07] <[Screamo]> Jenshae Why don't you just use xchat?
[09:07] <red2kic> Jenshae: Look in Plugins. (Join/Part Hiding).
[09:08] <Jenshae> ... because I am familiar with Pidgin and it does all the things I like and want?
[09:08] <Jenshae> This is the first channel I have joined that is so busy and has so many part and joins
[09:08] <MACscr_lappy> yeah, i like having an all in one client like pidgin
[09:08] <Cynthia> Jenshae: I believe that will suppress them everywhere, yes.
[09:09] <dragon-man> hi
[09:09] <[Screamo]> im going to kill my mom, she sprayed all the dogs with flea spray, now the flea from the dogs and start latching on to me :(
[09:09] <Jenshae> Another one I am in, has about 100 users but most of them tend to be PQR and PQR|work, never really logging off.
[09:09] <kcg> hi guys, does anyone know how to remove a window frame? Im trying to remove the window frame from the media player
[09:09] <MACscr_lappy> Jenshae: as mentioned, just go into plugins and select the hide joins/exist, etc
[09:09] <Jenshae> Thanks
[09:09] <UT8F> how to change sudo password? sudo passwd root dont work!
[09:09] <Cynthia> Wait, no, Jenshae, the Join-Part Hiding plugin (Tools/Plugins) has configuration so you can disable it for smaller rooms
[09:10] <dragon-man> UT8fF : only passwd
[09:10] <dragon-man> any software like photoshop?
[09:11] <red2kic> !gimp | dragon-man
[09:11] <Cynthia> dragon-man: I believe you have to be root to change root's password. and try the 'gimp' package
[09:11] <[Screamo]> dragon-man, Gimp
[09:11] <UT8F> dragon-man, its changes but, when I using sudo, its not eccepts new password, only old
[09:11] <red2kic> dragon-man: There also are Inkscape (for SVG)
[09:11] <Cynthia> UT8F: ah, you're simply confused
[09:11] <__taco> WICD don't support PPPoe?
[09:12] <onetinsoldier> !root | UT8F
[09:12] <Cynthia> UT8F: (+*) Sudo requests the password first, and for this you MUST put your old password. And THEN when sudo succeeds, passwd will ask you for your 'New Unix Password'
[09:12] <dragon-man> in gimp every function?
[09:12] <Severity1> __taco, i think it does
[09:12] <Cynthia> * = I confuse your nick with UTF8, sorry if I make that error later.
[09:12] <Jenshae> Okay thing I got it. The GUI section in this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto Step #5 being the key =)
[09:12] <dragon-man> UT8F first give old passwd and then new
[09:12] <Jenshae> think*
[09:13] <Cynthia> dragon-man: every function what? If you're asking if it has all the functions of Photoshop, it doesn't - but it's still rather feature-rich
[09:13] <UT8F> Cynthia, I know... I use sudo passwd root, It's ask old password, i entering it, then its ask new password 2 times. I entering it too.
[09:13] <Jenshae> Right, afk while I steal the screen
[09:13] <[Screamo]> dragon-man, photoshop CS2 runs, "decently" under wine
[09:13] <__taco> Severity1: whether i can use pppoecfg to connect ADSL if i had connect the router using WICD?
[09:14] <UT8F> When i use sudo again (after ~ 30min) it's ask password, I entering new password, its dont accept it, only old on
[09:14] <UT8F> one*
[09:14] <Cynthia> UT8F: actually, let's clarify this some more. If Sudo asks for a password, then if you're the user 'ut8f' and want to get to root, you must enter 'ut8f''s password when Sudo asks for it
[09:14] <Cynthia> Then root's old password, then root's new password
[09:14] <dragon-man> UT8F sudo mean super user power
[09:15] <HammerHead66> http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
[09:15] <red2kic> UT8F: Use "sudo -i" instead of accessing root. :(
[09:15] <UT8F> Oh, I get it... Thanks
[09:15]  * tarzeau doesn't like sudo
[09:15] <Cynthia> Ah. UT8F you're just confused. Sudo asks for YOUR user's password :)
[09:15]  * [Screamo] just Loves sudo
[09:15] <onetinsoldier> sudo -i  ftw!
[09:15] <tarzeau> i prefer su
[09:15] <Cynthia> If you want to change your user's password, just enter passwd
[09:15] <Cynthia> This will change your user's password for both logins AND sudo.
[09:16] <auchewet> hi, does anybody know about any efforts to enhance gnome usability on screens that are set up portrait (rotated right or left)? Of course I have done some tweaking myself but I'm really searching for some inspiration here :)
[09:16] <blackratdog> use backtrack, then you don't have to worry about sudo ^.^
[09:16] <tarzeau> blackratdog: i can just use ubuntu with sudo removed
[09:16] <UT8F> Cynthia, thank you ;]
[09:16] <[Screamo]> you could just go to System> Preferences> Aout me, and click on change password
[09:16] <tarzeau> or debian, no sudo pre-installed
[09:16] <yanick_> heh, just found this : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/linuxsketchup/signatures
[09:16] <tarzeau> [Screamo]: doesn't work if you use ldap/nis for your passwd
[09:16] <Cynthia> You're welcome UT8F - and everyone else who helped is welcome too
[09:16] <dragon-man> blackratdog, wow, are you back track?
[09:17] <__taco> Severity1, i found "Ability to connect to wired (Ethernet only, no PPPoE/DSL support yet) and wireless networks" on page http://wicd.net/
[09:17] <[Screamo]> i lov backtrack =/
[09:17] <Cebot> hi
[09:17] <tarzeau> [Screamo]: i don't
[09:17] <blackratdog> dragon-man, yes only thing is it's a few ubuntu versions behind
[09:17] <[Screamo]> well
[09:18] <Cynthia> Backtrack is for forensics experts mainly, not general users though, no?
[09:18] <[Screamo]> wait nvm
[09:18] <[Screamo]> err
[09:18] <Severity1> __taco, yeah i saw it too earlier
[09:18] <[Screamo]> Now im just confused
[09:18] <tarzeau> Cynthia: everyone calls himself forensics expert these days
[09:18] <Cynthia> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=backtrack
[09:18] <fouro> fouro@fouro-laptop:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:07:61:EE:10:1B           sudo: hidd: command not found     hmmm? :(
[09:19] <[Screamo]> Are we talking about the network tolls backtrack?
[09:19] <[Screamo]> *tools
[09:19] <hatake_kakashi> people tend to boast.. but of course finds they fall short
[09:19] <tarzeau> [Screamo]: yes
[09:19] <Stoken> join #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[09:19] <rsk> Cynthia backtrack is just a bunch of tools
[09:19] <__taco> Severity1: so it can works ?
[09:19] <rsk> Cynthia you can use them on any distro
[09:19] <blackratdog> cynthia, well also for those who want to learn stuff and not only forensics, also  reverse engineering, penetration testing, general security etc
[09:19] <Cynthia> I didn't think you were - I was talking about the distribution :(
[09:19] <rsk> Cynthia it's nothing special about it
[09:19] <Stoken> morgen zusammen \,,/
[09:19] <red2kic> fouro: You lack bluez-compat
[09:19] <tarzeau> !de
[09:19] <fouro> oki thx!
[09:19] <Cynthia> rsk: I know :) [btw, this is getting off-topic a bit now]
[09:20] <[Screamo]> i like it because it makes it easy to hack into routers when ive, uh, "lost my key"
[09:20] <[Screamo]> :)
[09:20] <Cebot> after having had to kill an xtightvnc session yesterday I can't start xtightvnc anymore. it doesn't give any message, just hangs at startup. I checked with strace for where it might hang and to my surprice I get a "resource temporarily unavailable" for two filedescriptors, can't see which files it are, though. The hangup comes from a poll() on one of the filedescriptors
[09:20] <[Screamo]> Cebot, run it in terminal
[09:20] <Cebot> [Screamo]: that's what i do
[09:20] <[Screamo]> or just reinstall it, that would be the easyiest way to fix it
[09:21] <Cynthia> Cebot: Might it be a pid file?
[09:22] <Severity1> __taco, i hope this info helps you http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104329.0
[09:23] <UT8F> Eam, another problem... When I trieng to reboot ubuntu laptop with ubuntu 10.04, its stucks at "[422.029922] rebooting now" or somethink like that
[09:23] <UT8F> whats the problem?
[09:24] <Cebot> how do i find out which package contains a paricular file?
[09:24] <HammerHead66> http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
[09:25] <UT8F> Eam, another problem... When I trieng to reboot ubuntu laptop with ubuntu 10.04, its stucks at "[422.029922] rebooting now" or somethink like that
[09:25] <onetinsoldier> Cebot: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:25] <Cebot> thanks
[09:25] <UT8F> where is the problem?
[09:25] <[Screamo]> Anyone know why 10.04 completly logs me out when i do anything CPU extensive?
[09:25] <onetinsoldier> Cebot: you're welcome
[09:26] <onetinsoldier> [Screamo]: don't know. you might look over you log files in /ver/log
[09:26] <MACscr_lappy> how do i get to console in ubuntu (not terminal)
[09:26] <onetinsoldier>  /var/log*
[09:26] <jatt> Ctrl Alt F1
[09:27] <Cynthia> MACscr_lappy: Ctrl+Alt+F<1 to 7>
[09:27] <L33tCh> or f2, f3... f6 ;)
[09:27] <onetinsoldier> MACscr_lappy: Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2, F3, ect
[09:27] <red2kic> !tty | MACscr_lappy
[09:27] <Cynthia> 7 is for the GUI when you go back
[09:27] <__taco> Severity1, thanks, i will try it.
[09:27] <onetinsoldier> ahh, good bot factoid red2kic
[09:28] <Severity1> __taco, np hope you can make it work :D
[09:28] <red2kic> onetinsoldier: I think it should say ALT+F7 first. People tends to follow things right away.
[09:28] <onetinsoldier> red2kic: i hear you
[09:29]  * red2kic wine "C:/Program Files/Pidgin/pidgin.exe"
[09:29] <MACscr_lappy> uh yeah, im confused, am i not supposed to do alt + ctrl + f1 first? because now i have access to nothing
[09:29] <DefaultTo0> Hi, I have a question
[09:29] <HammerHead66> http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
[09:29] <MACscr_lappy> do i have any other option besides restarting?
[09:29] <red2kic> DefaultTo0: Welcome.  Ask away.
[09:29] <onetinsoldier> MACscr_lappy: are you using live cd?
[09:29] <MACscr_lappy> no, fresh install
[09:29] <onetinsoldier> MACscr_lappy: roger
[09:29] <UT8F> Eam, another problem... When I trieng to reboot ubuntu laptop with ubuntu 10.04, its freezes at "[422.029922] rebooting now" or somethink like that
[09:29] <DefaultTo0> I noticed that Pidgin is at version 2.7.0 at http://pidgin.im, but when I check for updates on my system it finds no updates for me. I'm at 2.6.6.
[09:29] <MACscr_lappy> i just needed to make changes to xorg, so i wanted to get out of x server
[09:30] <UT8F> where is the problem?
[09:30] <Cynthia> HammerHead66 just gave that link every so often while it was here
[09:30] <rsk> DefaultTo0 that's correct.
[09:30] <rsk> DefaultTo0 ubuntu has that version website has newer.
[09:30] <DefaultTo0> rsk: Why isn't it offering me 2.7.0?
[09:30] <red2kic> !latest | DefaultTo0
[09:30] <rsk> DefaultTo0 because there's not enough manpower to updates thousand of packages and bugtest them.
[09:31] <rsk> DefaultTo0 it's a stability issue manily
[09:31] <DefaultTo0> Ah, I see.
[09:31] <red2kic> DefaultTo0: If you want the latest version, follow instruction on pidgim website to use PPA to obtain latest updates.
[09:31] <rsk> DefaultTo0 newer versions usually appear in newer ubuntu versions
[09:31] <Jenshae|afk> Thanks for the help. Going to stick to the forums. This is just too much too quick and I am too tired. Take care everyone.
[09:31] <DefaultTo0> If I use the Pidgin PPA, will it offer me the latest non-beta releases, as they're available?
[09:32] <red2kic> DefaultTo0: Yes.
[09:32] <DefaultTo0> Awesome :)
[09:32] <bodinux> Cynthia, severity1 : using the recovery mode, it seems that X fails to start, I did put my logs here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/436018/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/436019/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/436022/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/436023/
[09:32] <DefaultTo0> Thanks red2kic
[09:32] <BjornLopez> tired of niggers?
[09:32] <BjornLopez> Sick of their monkeyshines?
[09:32] <onetinsoldier> !ops
[09:33] <Cebot> brb
[09:33] <BjornLopez> Then join Chimpout Forum!
[09:33] <AlHafoudh> hi all
[09:33] <BjornLopez> http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[09:33] <AlHafoudh> guys, does anyone uses ptunnel behind NAT ?
[09:33] <Cynthia> Well that took care of BjornLopez I guess
[09:33] <onetinsoldier> yeah
[09:35] <Cynthia> bodinux: sorry, I'll bail out to go sleep; do keep these links to pastebin posts around, though, and ask about them in a few hours when more Europeans are around
[09:35] <Benwa> hi, i just installed a samba sharing disk on my server. I can see the shared disk on all the computers (windows, mac and linux) but half of the files does not appear. And the other half (almost) has really stange names like MTT8HH~9. Any idea?
[09:37] <bodinux> Thanks for your kind help
[09:37] <onetinsoldier> Benwa: no idea. if there's a #samba, you might try asking there
[09:37] <bodinux> cynthia : thanks for your kind help
[09:37] <Benwa> onetinsoldier, ok
[09:39] <raph_ael> hi, i notice that X is really much slower to switch btween desktops and apps after upgrading to lucid (using nvidia drivers and awesome wm) is there known problems ?
[09:39] <pollo_> hello
[09:39] <lein> hello
[09:40] <wildbat> hello hello hello ~;p
[09:40] <fouro> You should find that your keyboard or mouse works under Ubuntu. You now need to make sure your mouse or keyboard works every time you boot your computer, so you’ll need to edit the Ubuntu Bluetooth configuration file. Type the following in the GNOME Terminal window to open the configuration file in Gedit:
[09:40] <fouro> problem is nothing is in there
[09:41] <MACscr_lappy> does ubuntu not have a ssh server installed by default?
[09:41] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: perhaps you need to delete your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and use whatever nvidia's utility is to generate a new one
[09:41] <red2kic> MACscr_lappy: No.
[09:41] <wildbat> MACscr_lappy, nope~ install it ;p
[09:41] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: or really, rename it rather than deleting it
[09:41] <raph_ael> onetinsoldier: thanks for the hint, i'll try it
[09:41] <EgyParadox> update-grub doesn't detect my windows partition, any help?
[09:42] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: you're welcome. good luck. i don't know it that will help or not. but, you're welcome
[09:42] <raph_ael> onetinsoldier: i rarely delete conf files, i've done it too muh before and remember the pain afterward ;-)
[09:42] <Cebot> ok, i checked the whole strace output to figure which files are the blocking ones, but i figured it aren't actually files but sockets from a connect() call which give the message "resource temporarily unavailable"
[09:43] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: ahh, you have experience in that area eh? hehe. i know what you mean. i 'always' make a backup beofre editing one! :-)
[09:43] <onetinsoldier> before*
[09:44] <EgyParadox> update-grub doesn't detect my windows partition, any help?
[09:44] <raph_ael> onetinsoldier: i've experienced it quite a lot, specially when i was discovering linux a few years ago :)
[09:44] <Severity1> EgyParadox, try looking into this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[09:44] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: roger that, i hear you :)
[09:45] <raph_ael> onetinsoldier: have a nice day :)
[09:45] <onetinsoldier> raph_ael: thanks, you too. take care
[09:45] <serio> can you chat persion
[09:46] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I believe my problem is not included in the thread.
[09:47] <serio> who can chat persion?
[09:47] <obiwan_> hi people, aquick question, does eggdrop have a translation feature? i want to use it to translate *->french, french->*
[09:48] <DJones> serio: If you've got a support question about Ubuntu, please ask it in the channel, for any other general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <Cynthia> obiwan_: there ought to be a better support channel than #ubuntu for eggdrop questions
[09:48] <obiwan_> ok Cynthia sorry
[09:48] <Severity1> EgyParadox, can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:48] <Cynthia> obiwan_ no need to be sorry, it wasn't so bad :P
[09:49] <obiwan_> ^_^
[09:50] <stevendrdb> irc://chat.freenode.net/#drdb
[09:50] <stevendrdb> hello all
[09:50] <Medievalchips2> hi
[09:50] <serio> i only have que about persion people
[09:50] <stevendrdb> please help me
[09:50] <Medievalchips2> whats the prob
[09:50] <stevendrdb> i install drdb on ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[09:51] <stevendrdb> but i can't use drdb service.
[09:51] <Severity1> EgyParadox, also, can you check if /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober execute bit is on?
[09:51] <serio> canyou help me
[09:51] <serio>  pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
[09:51] <wildbat> !anyone
[09:51] <EgyParadox> Severity1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436031/
[09:52] <Medievalchips2> stevendrdb maybe reinstall it
[09:52] <stevendrdb> i install ubuntu with LVM
[09:53] <madura> compiz 0.8.4's reflection plugin + RGBA makes the screen go black only the mouse is drawn anyone know how to fix?
[09:53] <stevendrdb> i configure drdb use https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/drbd.html
[09:53] <EgyParadox> Severity: I got only other OS than ubuntu.
[09:53] <Severity1> EgyParadox, okay i checked your cfg and...
[09:53] <stevendrdb> I think i reinstall drdb haven't use.
[09:54] <Medievalchips2> stevendrdb like i said reinstall
[09:54] <Severity1> it looks like your 30_os-prober is functioning proerly since it detected MACOSX
[09:54] <stevendrdb> thanks,i reinstall now
[09:54] <Medievalchips2> when u use this types of tutorials u often miss something
[09:54] <Medievalchips2> :)
[09:54] <Fui> #join hsa
[09:54] <Medievalchips2> stevendrdb np
[09:54] <Fui> join #hsa
[09:55] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Yes , Only Mac OSX although I have also windows.
[09:55] <stevendrdb> can you tell me .drdb.conf parameter disk ,
[09:55] <onetinsoldier> Fui: try --> /join #hsa
[09:55] <stevendrdb> how use? Medievalchips2
[09:55] <Severity1> EgyParadox, yes it should have been detected by 30_os-prober together with MocOS
[09:56] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Is it possible that there is a problem with windows itself?
[09:56] <Medievalchips2> stevendrdb sry can't help u right now, college, busy
[09:56] <Severity1> EgyParadox, it is possible, your on 10.04 right?
[09:56] <codename_nos> can any one tell me the command for installing all gstreamer plugins at once ??
[09:56] <EgyParadox> Severity: Yes.
[09:57] <Severity1> EgyParadox, do you remember on which partition you put Windows?
[09:57] <stevendrdb> ok,i see ,i reinstall now
[09:57] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Yes.
[09:57] <codename_nos> ok what did i missed ?
[09:57] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Are you suggesting to add the entry manually?
[09:58] <wildbat> codename_nos, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-*
[09:59] <Severity1> EgyParadox, yup
[09:59] <Severity1> you can manually add boot entries in 40_custom under /etc/grub.d
[10:00] <codename_nos> wildbat i know that part but i just dont know the name of the all plugins !
[10:01] <codename_nos> wildbat like how many are available there
[10:02] <wildbat> codename_nos, just said install all ~ that will install all....
[10:02] <codename_nos> i want to install every possible (useful) gstreamer plugin from command line
[10:02] <dragon-man> [Screamo], so you use backtrack
[10:02] <dragon-man> ?
[10:02] <wildbat> you*
[10:02] <codename_nos> wildbat like use * wildcat !?
[10:02] <Severity1> EgyParadox, you still there?
[10:02] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Yes.
[10:02] <wildbat> codename_nos, ya
[10:02] <[Screamo]> dragon-man, for uh, when i "forgot" a key for wifi =/
[10:03] <dragon-man> blackratdog, you also?
[10:03] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I am searching for a howto for 40_custom, I can hardly find one.
[10:03] <codename_nos> wildbat never used that !! in installling package lol
[10:03] <dim> Hello!
[10:03] <codename_nos> but i m giving it a try ..
[10:03] <wildbat> codename_nos, LOL!
[10:03] <dim> hey, I'm looking to learn a lot more about lower-level programming on *nix, specifically ubuntu
[10:04] <dim> im interested in playing around with some basics
[10:04] <dim> like handling /dev/input/mouse0 stuff
[10:04] <dim> is this the right place for those sorts of discussions?
[10:04] <codename_nos> nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400 GS] ----- any idea which driver package should i install ?? last time i crapped with wrong one !! lol
[10:05] <Severity1> EgyParadox, im also looking for templates for Windows
[10:05] <Severity1> EgyParadox, its also possible that your windows xp MBR is broken
[10:05] <onetinsoldier> dim: no... sorry
[10:05] <L33tCh> dim: there is an ubuntu-programmign channel but not too many users... here it's more support than dev
[10:06] <dragon-man> dim, may be
[10:06] <dragon-man> [Screamo], ?
[10:06] <onetinsoldier> dim: you might try something like #C++, or perhaps #ubuntu-dev
[10:06] <dim> alright, well does anyone know of any (doesnt have to be ubuntu specific) *nix dev channel?
[10:06] <EgyParadox> Severity1: It is Windows 7 not XP .
[10:06] <codename_nos> wildbat !! hurray it worked ! never thought about wildcard in apt !! lol
[10:06] <[Screamo]> dragon-man, *sigh* i use it for cracking WEP's =/
[10:06] <codename_nos> wildbat thanx
[10:07] <L33tCh> always had trouble finding dev channels... regardless of language ><
[10:07] <wildbat> codename_nos, just don't kill your pc with install * XD
[10:07] <dragon-man> [Screamo], oh i see
[10:07] <codename_nos> wildbat may be i will someday .. but not now
[10:07] <dim> L33tCh, I just need a place to dump my horribly newbish *nix dev questions
[10:08] <L33tCh> best would be to search teh freenode channel list with 'dev'
[10:08] <codename_nos> wildbat nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400 GS] ----- any idea which driver package should i install ??
[10:08] <dragon-man> dim, ask your questions
[10:08] <dragon-man> oh sorry
[10:08] <stimpie> after removing globalmenu some of my apps (gvim) dont hava a menu bar anymore, someone knows how to 'properly' remove globalmenu?
[10:08] <codename_nos> wildbat its out put of lspci - lol
[10:08] <Severity1> EgyParadox, sorry bout that, check this outhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417950
[10:09] <przemek_> Hi
[10:09] <Severity1> it seems you need to boot to your windows cd then /fixmbr from there
[10:09] <onetinsoldier> hello przemek_
[10:09] <dragon-man> hi
[10:09] <L33tCh> dim: #ubuntu-devel has a great number of users for a dev channel
[10:10] <fouro> You should find that your keyboard or mouse works under Ubuntu. You now need to make sure your mouse or keyboard works every time you boot your computer, so you’ll need to edit the Ubuntu Bluetooth configuration file. Type the following in the GNOME Terminal window to open the configuration file in Gedit:
[10:10] <dim> L33tCh, thanks man
[10:10] <fouro> problem is nothing is in there
[10:10] <L33tCh> dim: #ubuntu-app-devel might be more what you're looking for though
[10:10] <wildbat> codename_nos, hmm no idea ~ didn't system > Admin> hardware driver shown ?
[10:10] <dragon-man> how to listen song from kmplayer?
[10:10] <L33tCh> np
[10:11] <red2kic> fouro: Meh? Link?
[10:11] <codename_nos> wildbat ya but it didn't worked fine ..and any way i want to know exact name of package ?
[10:11] <erUSUL> L33tCh: /msg alis list *dev*
[10:11] <fouro> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Bluetooth_Transferring_and_receiving_files_under_Ubuntu
[10:11] <fouro> bottom of page
[10:11] <lein> system was running fine  till i started a program/game in wine that i had just installed. the games started fine, I hit space bar to skip the intro video. X then crashed, and spit me out to login but everything was locked up. had to do a hard reboot.   started up  normal  except console-kit-daemon did not start and failed on manual restart. logs all seem to be normal, no errors or anything out of the ordinary.   was able to login fine through
[10:11] <lein> kdm.  after desktop came up  was unable to type in any thing. kmenu would open but would close after highlighting anything and would leave a shadow that flickered.  Keyboard was still working was able to do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X server.  logged in fine  after desktop/plasma came up same problem. tried to get to tty1 it did switch over but was just a black screen, tried switching back and forth a few time no change but somehow managed
[10:11] <lein>  to reboot from kmenu.  laptop restarted fine no errors. logged in no problems. kmenu was not as bad still could not input text into text boxes.  restarted the game in wine through kmenu. started ok then crashed.  kmenu worked fine at first i was able to open firefox and use it normally searched the ubuntu forums with no luck. was able to start xchat  now i'm here. kmenu now opens only as a shadow and cannot even click to where things should b
[10:11] <FloodBot1> lein: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:11] <lein> e and have them open. but i can switch to tty's now.  still can't find any thing in the logs, they seem to be normal. also cannot move, minimize, or maximize windows that are open. running kubuntu 9.04 x86_64  on a acer laptop. any ideas?
[10:12] <wildbat> codename_nos, nvidia-* ;p
[10:12] <fouro> gksu gedit /etc/default/bluetooth  >  gives me a empty file
[10:12] <red2kic> lein: Pastebinit your problem.
[10:12] <K10> hallo
[10:12] <stevendrdb> when i reinstall drbd
[10:12] <Severity1> Egybtw did you issue update-grub as in "sudo update-grub"?
[10:12] <lein> didn't think i typed that much, or i would have
[10:12] <K10> hi
[10:12] <codename_nos> wildbat you kiddin ??
[10:13] <stevendrdb> the system tell me "Failure (114) lower device is already claimed.This usually means it is mounted"
[10:13] <stevendrdb> "cmd '/sbin/drbdsetup /dev/drbd0 disk /dev/sda1 /dev/sda1 internal --set-defaults --create-device' terminated with exit code 10"
[10:13] <brah-> l33tch that channels almost empty
[10:13] <dragon-man> lol
[10:13] <L33tCh> erUSUL: alis a bot to search channel list? thanks... didn't know that
[10:13] <red2kic> fouro: Congrats. You get to create a new one. Empty files are not useful.
[10:13] <wildbat> codename_nos, lol ~ ofcoz kidding ~ just pick one version ~
[10:13] <MACscr_lappy> lol, whenever i startx, i cant get back to the cli (im using ssh) without hitting ctrl + c, and that shutsdown x. What are my other options?
[10:13] <stevendrdb> please tell me what's the matter?
[10:13] <fouro> hm
[10:14] <fouro> so they say i need to find some lines to edit
[10:14] <codename_nos> wildbat i hit the tab though and it showed me some 40 around diff package !!!
[10:14] <fouro> if i dont have any :s
[10:14] <red2kic> fouro: The guide was compiled in 2007.
[10:14] <fouro> :p
[10:14] <L33tCh> brah: yup, i've noticed never many devs in channels... problem when looking for help... but above 20 is better than i usually see
[10:15] <codename_nos> wildbat think i should install EnyNg
[10:15] <codename_nos> EnvyNg*
[10:15] <brah-> since this network is heavily open source related I think you should focus on the specific programming language channel to that guy asking about ubuntu deve
[10:15] <brah-> like #C, etc...
[10:15] <L33tCh> true true
[10:16] <dragon-man> #c
[10:16] <L33tCh> though that doesn't bring up many better options...
[10:16] <lein> hmm can't pastebin the problem....  unable to get kmenu to to open long enough before becoming a shadow to start firefox. and alt+F2 isn't working to start it. also not sure if i could type in it anyway.
[10:17] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I believe the problem is with Windows.
[10:17] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I added the entry , then updated grub, then rebooted, same problem.
[10:17] <onetinsoldier> lein: make a text file and put your problem description in it.. then use the 'pastebinit' command on the text file
[10:17] <anonimo> HELLO!
[10:18] <onetinsoldier> lein: you might need to install 'pastebinit', not sure
[10:18] <Severity1> can i see the entry?
[10:18] <Severity1> EgyParadox,
[10:18] <anonimo> TEM ALGUEM DO BRAZIL
[10:18] <Severity1> Egybtw did you issue update-grub as in "sudo update-grub"?
[10:18] <Osirus> I need Help With Mouse Calibration Using VGN-ux280P
[10:19] <Osirus> Current OS Ubuntu 10
[10:19] <lein> onetinsoldier:  problem is i can't open anything....... although i can get to tty1 now so i maybe able to do it in vi
[10:19] <onetinsoldier> lein: roger. sounds like your best bet
[10:19] <MindVirus> Does anyone know what is the most memory-efficient modern browser?
[10:19] <EgyParadox> Severity1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436044/ <-grub.cfg
[10:19] <anonimo> PORN
[10:19] <onetinsoldier> lol
[10:19] <Osirus> Lol
[10:20] <anonimo> pron girl?
[10:20] <Osirus> Men Are Nasty
[10:20] <anonimo> porn girl?
[10:20] <wasabi> !controls
[10:20] <anonimo> clear
[10:20] <anonimo> exit
[10:21] <anonimo> exit
[10:21] <anonimo> reboot
[10:21] <Osirus> Any Help Guys?
[10:21] <L33tCh> MindVirus: not sure if it's the most efficient in all aspects, but chromium definitely works fastest for me
[10:21] <MindVirus> L33tCh: I use Chromium and it freezes my computer.
[10:21] <Severity1> EgyParadox, have you issed sudo update-grub?
[10:21] <MindVirus> I have 1GB memory.
[10:21] <Severity1> EgyParadox, nevermind ofcourse you have
[10:21] <Osirus> ?
[10:21] <Jonta> MindVirus: Latest version?
[10:22] <MindVirus> Jonta: Absolutely.
[10:22] <Severity1> EgyParadox, did the entry show in your grub menu?
[10:22] <MindVirus> (I updated 5 minutes ago and update every day.)
[10:22] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Nope.
[10:22] <lein> lynx is light weight  fast and and memory effecent
[10:22] <MindVirus> lein: lynx is also not a modern browser, therefore not an answer to my question.
[10:22] <onetinsoldier> not really a modern browser though
[10:22] <Severity1> EgyParadox, have you tried putting this entry inside 40_custom
[10:22] <marco_111> hello there
[10:22] <morten> I am not experienced with Ubuntu - but the Update from version 8 to 9 went well (now running 9.10 with "only update to LTS selected"). I do not get the option to update to 10.04 - how do I force it ?
[10:22] <MindVirus> lein: But thanks for being a wiseass.
[10:23] <marco_111> how ca i explore my D and E disk drives ?
[10:23] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I don't know how to actually.
[10:23] <lein> MindVirus: your welcome
[10:23] <MindVirus> lein: Nobody likes a wiseass.
[10:23] <marco_111> Hellooooooo
[10:23] <L33tCh> MindVirus: ah, must be a bug of some sort... can't help there, but i'd look into finding why, i use it and firefox most of the time...
[10:23] <Severity1> EgyParadox, okay let me guide you
[10:23] <janjiss> I Have hp Laserjet 1000 printer, wich works fine in Ubuntu network. It is shared and prints well from ubuntu machines.I tried to connect to Ubuntu shared printer from windows machine by typing adress http://192.168.*.***:631/printers/hp-laserjet-1000., selecting driver and adding to printers list. It sends a job to Ubuntu Machine, I can see it in CUPS and job quanue, but it does not print. After a while it shows xp machines print 
[10:24] <MindVirus> L33tCh: I am going to start using Firefox because it seems to be the most memory efficient (never thought I'd say that).
[10:24] <Jonta> MindVirus: Well, could be a bug in the newest version. Use the previous one that worked and report the bug?
[10:24] <lein> MindVirus:  i didn't see the part about  being modern
[10:24] <Jonta> Ah, that's the better option
[10:24] <MindVirus> Jonta: It's been hogging memory for a long time.
[10:24] <MindVirus> lein: (05:19:29 AM) MindVirus: Does anyone know what is the most memory-efficient modern browser?
[10:24] <janjiss> MindVirus: Chrome
[10:24] <Arma_> I saw all over the web that Oracle is now installable on Ubuntu (or at least Debian based OS) is it now maintained in the package manager or found anywhere as a .deb which is maintained ? and does Ubuntu offer training to this field ?
[10:24] <MindVirus> lein: If you didn't see that part, I'm sorry for calling you a wiseass.
[10:24] <MindVirus> janjiss: That is not true.
[10:24] <Jonta> Only thing I'm worried about is that FF4 seems to be going down the same route as chromium; one process pr. tab
[10:25] <VirusTB> How do i get my system to automatically mount a partition??? on start up/login ?
[10:25] <codename_nos> MIndVirus midori
[10:25] <lein> MindVirus:  i saw it after you said something and i re-read it.  it's all good.
[10:25] <janjiss> I Have hp Laserjet 1000 printer, wich works fine in Ubuntu network. It is shared and prints well from ubuntu machines.I tried to connect to Ubuntu shared printer from windows machine by typing adress http://192.168.*.***:631/printers/hp-laserjet-1000., selecting driver and adding to printers list. It sends a job to Ubuntu Machine, I can see it in CUPS and job quanue, but it does not print. After a while it shows xp machines print 
[10:25] <moetunes> !fstab | VirusTB
[10:25] <MindVirus> codename_nos: Do you use Midori?
[10:26] <kaarlo> hi
[10:26] <Osirus> 1GB
[10:26] <onetinsoldier> !hi | kaarlo
[10:26] <codename_nos> MindVirus i prefer firefox but yeah i do some times
[10:26] <MindVirus> codename_nos: Could you tell me why?
[10:26] <VirusTB> moetunes,  so do i just edit the "/etc/fstab" file?
[10:26] <dekroning> when i tried to install ubuntu 9.10 from cd it keeps throwing me into "ash shell"  (initramfs) anyone that knows a work around for this? i saw a lot of hits on google but none that i could find seem to have a answer
[10:26] <Nevstah> heya, is it normal for 'dig' to need to be run with sudo?
[10:27] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I tried something, I will reboot.
[10:27] <Severity1> EgyParadox, imma pastebin something for your 40_custom
[10:27] <janjiss> Cab somone help me with printing from XP machine to Ubuntu????
[10:27] <linduxed> is there a way to check what will be changed during an upgrade from karmic to lucid?
[10:27] <EgyParadox> Severity1: brb
[10:27] <moetunes> VirusTB: you edit it with the appropriate lines yes
[10:27] <codename_nos> MindVirus about  what ?
[10:27] <MindVirus> Also, does anyone know how to decrease CPU usage for Rhythmbox? Is it the cross-fading backend?
[10:27] <Severity1> EgyParadox, okay
[10:27] <Arma_> I saw all over the web that Oracle is now installable on Ubuntu (or at least Debian based distros) is it now maintained in the package manager or found anywhere as a .deb which is maintained ? and does Ubuntu offer training to this field ?
[10:27] <MindVirus> codename_nos: Why you prefer Firefox but use Midori.
[10:27] <linduxed> janjiss: lose the extra question marks
[10:27] <linduxed> janjiss: give more information about the problem
[10:27] <VirusTB> moetunes,  ok will do some reading n see if i succeed :D
[10:27] <linduxed> janjiss: dont ask to ask
[10:27] <iceroot> Arma_: #oracle   its not supported in ubuntu
[10:28] <linduxed> janjiss: now, what was the problem?
[10:28] <kaarlo> i've added gfxmode=1280x800x32 to default/grub and gfxpayload=keep to grub.d/00_header and it wont work..
[10:28] <Arma_> iceroot: seems like its moderated
[10:28] <janjiss> linduxed: I Have hp Laserjet 1000 printer, wich works fine in Ubuntu network. It is shared and prints well from ubuntu machines.I tried to connect to Ubuntu shared printer from windows machine by typing adress http://192.168.*.***:631/printers/hp-laserjet-1000., selecting driver and adding to printers list. It sends a job to Ubuntu Machine, I can see it in CUPS and job quanue, but it does not print. After a while it shows xp machi
[10:28] <kaarlo> grub starts up with 1280x800 resoultion
[10:28] <MACscr_lappy> how do i do startx from ssh without having to kill it just to get back to command line?
[10:28] <iceroot> Arma_: that is the problem with unfree software, no good (free) support
[10:28] <kaarlo> but when the kernel boots, theres still the grub menu until x starts up
[10:29] <K10> hi, i have a interesting situation here, when iam starting "Virtual Box OSE" Linux is freeing some memory, but why?
[10:29] <codename_nos> Midori is light. and firefox have more features like thousands of plugins ( Xmarks my fav ) and for some speed reason i sometimes use Midori
[10:29] <Arma_> iceroot: well the second part of the question is Ubuntu based, does Ubuntu offer training in that field ?
[10:29] <onetinsoldier> linduxed: i sort of know a way. there might be a better way, but don't know what it would be
[10:29] <janjiss> linduxed: I wrote whole problem a while ago but no one answered ,so I tried minimalistic variant :D
[10:29] <dad_> hi
[10:29] <Jonta> Firefox is the best to handle a lot of tabs in my experience
[10:29] <elyob> Am trying to rsync some files across to network storage. My scripts runs as root, the files to copy are under root folders, but files are www-data. So when I run rsync, I also use a different user on the network storage ... not surprisingly I get a permissions error when I try and open on network storage ...
[10:29] <iceroot> Arma_: why should they? for that there is oracle-support
[10:29] <Arma_> !hi | dad_
[10:29] <dad_> my devinput is rspomding to fast in luirc
[10:29] <Guest89384> Hello there, Grub is complaining that it cannot find the specified partition/. Any suggestions how to fix?
[10:29] <Guest89384> I'm using a live cd, and it's there and just fine
[10:30] <Guest39837> and i get multiple inputs
[10:30] <iceroot> Arma_: you can have a look at canocial but i dont think there is training for other software
[10:30] <codename_nos> jonta its not completely true (but its in a way ! lol ) midori also dont have problem with lots of tab
[10:30] <Arma_> iceroot: oh ok thanks I was asking cause I have a project for a company that involves getting them to use Ubuntu and they use Oracle so I wanted to get as much information as possible to convince them to switch to Ubuntu ;)
[10:30] <Guest39837> i have tried changing the response and elay time
[10:30] <Guest39837> but it does not seem to chnage anything
[10:30] <linduxed> janjiss: hmm, i can't say i know what it could be
[10:30] <Arma_> iceroot: thanks again :)
[10:30] <Guest39837> do i need to restart lirc each time
[10:31] <onetinsoldier> linduxed: i sort of know a way to display the package changes for an upgrade
[10:31] <janjiss> linduxed: I gusess it cant be ufw?
[10:31] <Dad`> 11:39 < ubottu> dad_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! // It highligthed me bwa :-)
[10:31] <linduxed> janjiss: i don't think so, since it got a job
[10:31] <Nevstah> any idea why a normal user cant resolve DNS but root can? i'm stuck :(
[10:31] <K10> maybe a memory-leak in the kernel-module?
[10:32] <linduxed> janjiss: did it get the correct job?
[10:32] <VirusTB> moetunes, seems a bit more complicated than i thought for a newbie
[10:32] <janjiss> linduxed: Yes, it has correct  job in quanue. It shows, that it has finished printind, but nothing happens. It works fine with ubuntu network
[10:32] <onetinsoldier> Nevstah: what does the following command output?  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[10:33] <moetunes> VirusTB: yes it takes some practise - what filesystem are the partitions?
[10:34] <Nevstah> onetinsoldier: permissions were wrong.. so simples.. :)
[10:34] <onetinsoldier> Nevstah: :-)
[10:34] <linduxed> janjiss: it sounds as if the data is misunderstood
[10:35] <linduxed> janjiss: as in "oh there's nothing in this job, i'm finished then"
[10:35] <K10> when iam starting "Virtual Box OSE" Linux is freeing some memory, but why?
[10:35] <janjiss> linduxed: I could not disagree :)
[10:35] <linduxed> janjiss: or well, it could be that way
[10:35] <erUSUL> !ram | K10
[10:36] <MindVirus> Does anyone know how to decrease Rhythmbox CPU usage?
[10:36] <linduxed> janjiss: i think this is a compatibility error, maybe the driver on the XP side is incorrect
[10:36] <janjiss> linduxed: I just wish it woudl be so easy to connect from xp as it is easy to connect to ubuntu :)
[10:36] <VirusTB> moetunes,  the partition is NTFS  and my second HDD is NTFS (for media storage)
[10:36] <linduxed> janjiss: but my guesses end there
[10:36] <janjiss> linduxed: Driver is form HP homepage
[10:36] <acicula> MindVirus, unless it continuously runs at 100% no
[10:36] <linduxed> janjiss: well good luck with that, call microsoft and complain...
[10:37] <janjiss> linduxed: Thats hilarious :D
[10:37] <K10> erUSUL, ubottu i know this, but i tracked this with free
[10:37] <moetunes> VirusTB: first you need to make a folder to mount them in - sudo mkdir -v /media/somename
[10:37] <K10> erUSUL, ubottu http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398329/
[10:38] <K10> erUSUL, ubottu sry for the german language in the paste
[10:38] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Still not working.
[10:39] <janjiss> Has anyone else ran in to problem with Windows XP to Ubuntu Lucid printing?
[10:39] <VirusTB> moetunes,  that "somename" will the the title I see in the left pane of file browser/natialus  right?
[10:39] <onetinsoldier> split coming?
[10:39]  * acicula consults the 8-ball
[10:40] <onetinsoldier> acicula: lol
[10:40] <K10> whats going on here?
[10:40] <Severity1> EgyParadox, wait
[10:40] <digifor> How do I get the icons in the menus's in E17 with Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:40] <erUSUL> K10: the kernel dropped some buffer cache to load VBox
[10:40] <kevs> all: whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[10:40] <VirusTB> digifor,  whats E17??
[10:41] <onetinsoldier> !ot
[10:41] <moetunes> VirusTB: not unless you make a shortcut there- but it is something you should choose  - I used somename 'cause i don't know what you want to call it
[10:41] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Should I paste the output of update-grub?
[10:41] <K10> erUSUL, but the buffer and caches are not changed, only the used memory (second line)?
[10:41] <progesterone> Question: what's the way to connect to FTP server from Ubuntu desktop?
[10:41] <V4> hi
[10:41] <obiwan_> ftp? :P
[10:41] <kevs> onetinsoldier: ty
[10:41] <onetinsoldier> kevs: yw
[10:42] <acicula> progesterone, Places->Connect to server or your favourite browser/ftp client
[10:42] <Severity1> EgyParadox, gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[10:42] <digifor> Enlightenment E17 VirusTB http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-install-e17-from-svnsource-on.html
[10:42] <adies> could anyone tell me what the default ubuntu iptable rules are so I can reset them?
[10:42] <Guillem_> Since my upgrade, I guess,  my qt4 apps do not show any icon at menus.
[10:42] <progesterone> acicula Thanks dude.
[10:42] <MACscr_lappy> when i enable xinerama, my things get pretty unstable on my other two monitors and i cant even see my mouse on them. Eventually it segfaults
[10:42] <erUSUL> K10: 1114 --> 917 ?
[10:42] <K10> erUSUL, yes
[10:42] <digifor> In my menus some like Firefox and Xchat work well.
[10:42] <Severity1> EgyParadox, then add the entries from here to your /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[10:42] <VirusTB> moetunes,  ok.. well i did  " sudo mkdir -v /media/Media " << I would like to mount the full 1TB HDD to this (which is my HDD with movies and music)
[10:42] <digifor> Others are missing
[10:42] <K10> erUSUL, and as i know, in free the first line includes buffer/caches, the second line exclude this
[10:42] <jetienne> q. i just update to 10.04 and i still got large window button, is that a bug in the update, OR it has been changed since last weeks ?
[10:43] <Severity1> EgyParadox, http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=51kBS203 << add this entry to your 40_custom
[10:43] <VirusTB> digifor,  thanks,. will look into it, bookmarked.. busy tryna get a partition and a HDD to automatically mount on start up
[10:43] <janjiss> Can somone help me with HP laserjet 1000 printer sharing from Ubuntu To Xp machine?
[10:44] <onetinsoldier> adies: do you just want them reset for the moment?
[10:44] <Severity1> EgyParadox, after that do a sudo update-grub
[10:44] <moetunes> VirusTB: you mount partitions not hdd - is there only one partition on the hdd?
[10:44] <adies> onetinsoldier, no. i would like them permanently fixed
[10:44] <digifor> This may be  more an enlightenment issue than a 10.04 one
[10:44] <onetinsoldier> adies: ahh, don't know. sorry
[10:44] <onetinsoldier> adies: what firewall are you using?
[10:45] <adies> firestarter
[10:45] <acicula> adies, the default is empty, though some applications can define iptable rules using ufw
[10:45] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Done, brb.
[10:45] <adies> acicula, how would I go about setting to empty
[10:45] <onetinsoldier> adies: can't you just uncheck the enable firewall checkbox or whatever and leave it unchecked?
[10:46] <VirusTB> moetunes,  oh .. so then i can only place that  NTFS partition to the  /media/Media that i created
[10:46] <adies> onetinsoldier, it keeps reenabling itself every time I close it
[10:46] <moetunes> VirusTB: yep - one partition per folder/mountpoint
[10:46] <onetinsoldier> adies: oh. i see. my gufw doesn't do that i don't think
[10:47] <adies> onetinsoldier, its firestarter
[10:47] <VirusTB> moetunes, how do i find out what sda  or sdb the partion i want to mount is?
[10:47] <acicula> adies, its empty by default, try a sudo ufw status or iptables  -L
[10:47] <K10> erUSUL, maybe i missinterpret them?
[10:47] <moetunes> VirusTB: sudo fdisk -l   will tell
[10:47] <onetinsoldier> adies: roger. both firestarter and gufw, use.... ufw
[10:47] <acicula> adies, what is the problem you are trying to solve
[10:47] <moetunes> VirusTB: you can mount them all you just have to repeat the steps for each one
[10:47] <erUSUL> K10: the question is why you have more free memory after starting VirtualBox ?
[10:48] <adies> acicula, my firewall blocks all communications until i open and turn off firestarter, but I have to have firestarter open all the time with the firewall turned off.
[10:48] <VirusTB> moetunes,  ok let me read the 'man' pages and see what i can get done
[10:49] <K10> erUSUL, exactly
[10:50] <K10> thats why iam asking?
[10:50] <K10> :D
[10:50] <zenger> why can
[10:50] <zenger> why can't I install video drivers?
[10:50] <zenger> I use the Hardware Drivers
[10:51] <zenger> choose Nvidia 173 next -> the error
[10:51] <zenger> System Error: installArchives() failed
[10:51] <acicula> adies seems ufw is enabled to start on boot
[10:52] <adies> acicula, where do I go to fix that?
[10:52] <erUSUL> K10: then i dunno; but why do you care ?
[10:53] <moetunes> VirusTB: the fstab line will be something like   /dev/sda1 /media/MEDIA ntfs-3g auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=000,fmask=111,utf8 0 0
[10:53] <acicula> loading the vbox service only loads a kernel driver and some kernel settings, so it would seem unrelated to freeing up 200Mb of memory, but maybe it forces the kernel to cleanup some allocated but unused memory pages?
[10:54] <gartral> i have a bluetooth 2.1 +EDR dongle.. i cant seem to use EDR
[10:54] <K10> erUSUL, ?
[10:54] <acicula> gardar, how can you tell?
[10:54] <zenger_> System Error: installArchives() failed
[10:54] <zenger_> how to fix it?
[10:55] <gartral> acicula: transfers of data happen at 60kb/ps
[10:55] <K10> erUSUL, because im interessted on this...its a little bit strange :D
[10:55] <K10> to start a program and get memory free
[10:55] <K10> :D
[10:55] <acicula> adies, in /etc/ufw/ufw.conf is ENABLED set to no
[10:55] <audi> Hi
[10:55] <audi> i got "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:55] <erUSUL> K10: it is not easy to know why the kernel decided to free the memory ....
[10:55] <paissad> hi all, when i do "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade", aptitude proposes me to remove some packages including one package "xpsb-glx" that i want to never be removed .... how should i proceed in order no to get prompted for removal of that package ?
[10:55] <audi> what i do for that
[10:55] <gartral> acicula: im not a mathmatition, but that should be at least 2mbit... not 60 kb...
[10:55] <itguru> gwibber keeps segfaulting -- How can I find out which version is the latest available in the repos?
[10:55] <paissad> or any other package too ^^
[10:55] <paissad> thanks in advance for helping
[10:56] <K10> erUSUL, ok, thank you
[10:56] <nicolas_> hi, the graphviz package in the lucid lynx repo is a bugged version
[10:56] <oldmagic> anyone on here thats a pro in vpntunnels ?
[10:56] <nicolas_> is there a way to report this without requestsync?
[10:56] <acicula> gartral mbit is not the same as kilobytes
[10:56] <onetinsoldier> zenger: i don'tr know. but when you describe the problem to the channel, put it all on one line, what your wanting to do, how you're trying to do it, and then the error message. all on one line
[10:56] <nicolas_> (cause I can't get the mailing stuff to work)
[10:56] <acicula> 1Mbit is not 1megabyte/second, but much less then that
[10:57] <paissad> i'm obliged to use "apt-get upgrad" instead of "aptitude safe-upgrade" in order not to be prompted for removing some packages ....
[10:57] <gartral> acicula: again, im no mathmatition, but 3mbit is roughly 140 kb/s not 60
[10:57] <oldmagic> can someone mabye help me with a problemo i got in a vpntunnel?
[10:57] <EgyParadox> Severity1: The problem is that the entries that appear are different in grub.cfg
[10:57] <EgyParadox> than in grub.cfg
[10:57] <adies> acicula, i turned it off. now im going to log out and back in again and see what happens
[10:58] <zenger> ok
[10:58] <adies> acicula, ok?
[10:58] <Severity1> let me see your grub.cfg
[10:58] <acicula> adies, ok
[10:58] <acicula> gardar, theoretical speed yeah
[10:58] <EgyParadox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/436057/
[10:59] <Severity1> is it showing now in your grub boot menu?
[10:59] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173)  it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing
[10:59] <acicula> gardar, it does not prove that edr is not enabled however
[10:59] <EgyParadox> Severity1: Everything except windows.
[10:59] <Guillem_> the user-interface-preferences panel has disapeared after the upgrade... (where you chose if menus have icons, toobars are dettachable, and so on)
[11:00] <Severity1> hmm did you add the entries i told you to the 40_custom? then after that did you issue a sudo update-grub?
[11:00] <gartral> acicula: ok, pu into perspectve, computer is equiped with bluetooth class 1 2.1+EDR radio, moto drod has bluetooth 2.1+EDR class 2.. the phone is no more than 6 from the computer's radio at any given moment.. i should see MUCH more data per second.
[11:00] <onetinsoldier> zenger: much better. you're much more likely to get a response from someone who knows with it all on one line like that :-) just keep asking like every 5-10 minutes or so
[11:00] <audi> hello i got this error on terminal "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[11:00] <gartral> 6ft*
[11:00] <gartral> acicula: I am NOT gardar
[11:00] <acicula> gardar, yeah youd expect to se around 200-220
[11:01] <acicula> gartral, ook
[11:01] <Severity1> it looks like you didnt issue a sudo update-grub after doing the changes
[11:01] <moetunes> audi: did you run the command?
[11:01] <gartral> acicula: stop that! im over hee :p
[11:01] <onetinsoldier> audi: ok, so run that command....  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:01] <gartral> here*
[11:01] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I did more than once.
[11:01] <jetienne> q. i just update to 10.04 and i still got large window button, is that a bug in the update, OR it has been changed since last weeks ?
[11:02] <Severity1> can you pastebin /etc/grub.d/40_custom here
[11:02] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what shoul I do??
[11:02] <gartral> acicula: well, regardless..something has screwed up
[11:03] <EgyParadox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/436059/
[11:03] <EgyParadox> Severity1
[11:03] <Severity1> EgyParadox,
[11:03] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what shoul I do??
[11:03] <Craiggles> hey guys, how do I get java jdk for 10.04? (I'm needing it for netbeans)
[11:04] <RobertSaganek_> talk about a long night
[11:04] <RobertSaganek_> *tired
[11:04] <EgyParadox> Craiggles: Openjdk
[11:04] <gartral> acicula: wouldn't 3 mbit/ps yeild a complete maximal transfer of 340-370 in the very best situation?
[11:04] <acicula> gartral, theoretical 3Mbit, practical 2.1Mbit gives a 375/250( kb/s) theoretical throughput, so you'd expect to see 200kb/s.
[11:04] <onetinsoldier> Craiggles: install openjdk. try apt-cache search openjdk - or, enable the 'partner' repository and install sun-java
[11:05] <gartral> acicula: again, we're beating around the issue. how do i tell why im only seeing 60, instead of 200+?
[11:05] <Craiggles> thanks
[11:05] <EgyParadox> Craiggles: There is a package called netbeans
[11:05] <Severity1> EgyParadox, try cleaning your 40_custom file it seems there are lot of "#" characters on places it shouldnt be in
[11:05] <Craiggles> EgyParadox, i downloaded the netbeans shell script
[11:05] <Craiggles> and i'm running it now, it wants the jdk location though (which I haven't got), installing jdk now though
[11:05] <Severity1> clean it then pastebin it again
[11:05] <acicula> gartral, how are you testing, got a baby monitor? maybe EDR is not supported yet for your bluetooth dongle, slow flash disk on the phone , slow phone
[11:06] <EgyParadox> Severity1: OK.
[11:06] <Severity1> its like a furnace here, imma take a shower for awhile just pastebin the entry here
[11:06] <Craiggles> EgyParadox, openjdk did the trick :}
[11:07] <nuunuu> Does anyone know if Huawei e1750 is working on ubuntu 9.10 version automaticly or do I have to do some tricks for it to work?
[11:08] <acicula> gartral, ie if you want to test the speed mount the phone hd and drag a file over from nautilus thats big enough, ie say 100Mb
[11:08] <gartral> acicula: it's the Motorola A855, 16gb class 6 SDHC, bluetooth stack is BlueZ 2.4.. USB transfer speds peak at rougly 200 mb/s
[11:09] <zenger> how to I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what shoul I do??
[11:09] <wildbat> nuunuu, y don't you boot the Live CD session to find out ?
[11:10] <nuunuu> because I havent downloaded that ubuntu yet
[11:10] <nuunuu> I have redicilously slow internet it will take day or two to download it so I wanna know before that
[11:11] <gartral> acicula: i'm well and truely sure my hardware is capable of maxing that link, backend on comp is a i7 860, OCed to 3.1 ghz. HT enabled, 4 gb ram and 2 tb hdd.. 160 gb ssd
[11:11] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what should I do??
[11:11] <zenger> nuuuu
[11:11] <zenger> use usb_switch
[11:11] <jetienne> q. i just update to 10.04 and i still got large window button, is that a bug in the update, OR it has been changed since last weeks ?
[11:12] <L33tCh> nuunuu: I used the previous version of the modem on 9.04 so I'd say it will work, but I can't say for certain
[11:12] <acicula> gartral, yeah thats not it, how are you testing, if you drag a bit file over using nautiuls what speed does it settle at
[11:12] <dancek> gartral, i'm quite sure your computer can max the link but how do you know that the phone can?
[11:13] <gartral> acicula: i TOLD you! 60 kb/s. i tested by dragging a 50 MB album to it.
[11:14] <acicula> yes you told me, but not how you tested that, can you try a single big file?
[11:14] <gartral> dancek: Motorola Droid (A855) FW Android 2.1 (Eclair) I KNOW this phone is capable
[11:14] <acicula> gartral, yeah i doubt its the phone, if anything its the bluetooth dongle
[11:14] <gartral> acicula: sure, i'll try with a iso of ubuntu
[11:14] <acicula> that'll work
[11:14] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what shoul I do??
[11:15] <gartral> acicula: again, i know the bt dongle supports EDR.. it works better in windows.. (roughly 160~)
[11:15] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I believe maybe it is a bug.
[11:15] <acicula> gartral, yeah you told me that, it may be the ubuntu driver for it doesnt though
[11:16] <EgyParadox> Severity1: I don't need Windows now after all, maybe later, I appreciate your help.
[11:16] <gartral> acicula: 65... ok, 5 kbps more.. im not sitting here a full 45 mins well the dvd iso transfers
[11:17] <dancek> gartral, it seems to me that the linux kernel driver for the bt dongle just can't go as fast... if you're a hacker you could always check the source code, if not then i guess you'll have to adapt to it
[11:17] <gartral> er, cd
[11:17] <acicula> gartral, can you paste bin the output of hciconfig hci0 features
[11:18] <zenger> hey yo
[11:18] <gartral> acicula: http://pastebin.com/24YzqpiE
[11:18] <ghostx> hi
[11:18] <zenger> hi
[11:18] <zenger> help me some1
[11:18] <ghostx> how are u doing?
[11:18] <zenger> I use the HardWare Drives to install the NVIDIA driver (173) it downloads then crashes giving this "System Error: installArchives() failed", i tried to install and Unistall using the Synaptic. nothing what shoul I do??
[11:18] <FloodBot1> zenger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:18] <L33tCh> zenger:maybe try 'sudo apt-get purge nvidia' then download the deb from nvidia
[11:19] <L33tCh> and install from that
[11:19] <acicula> gartral, what about hciconfig -a
[11:19] <onetinsoldier> i think zenger might have a pretty serious problem.. i mean, "System Error"?
[11:19] <acicula> gartral, err can you poste the output off
[11:19] <acicula> censor Name if you dont want to leak your computername
[11:19] <zenger> nah
[11:20] <gartral> acicula: http://pastebin.com/yCnbitmS
[11:20] <onetinsoldier> zenger: well, i hope not :)
[11:21] <gartral> acicula: it looks like one of the drivers is stuck in 2.0 mode...
[11:21] <Killed> how could i fix this http://click.adbrite.com/mb/click.php?sid=1636172&banner_id=13446473&variation_id=1748965&uts=1274264161&cpc=302e3235&keyword_id=1474020&ab=171966543&sscup=700284f05144ed9ebff3a14a62ec533f&sscra=12eee88fdaa63766224d0cc0b2ab153a&ub=1985940916&guid=88e921bb-1270-485b-ae1c-e6b72df1df9a&odc=grx&rs=&tgt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.TeachingChildrenAboutMoney.com&sc=&adt=5&bg=12639649&bkw=&nsscup=4a5bf17319b5978e2dc0fd259dc71465&r=
[11:21] <L33tCh> :) that was the solution to a similar problem in the bug reports...
[11:21] <gartral> Killed: by using tinyurl! :P
[11:21] <acicula> gartral, its not enabling edr
[11:21] <ghostx> eh does someone know a irc about security?
[11:21] <acicula> gardar, and yeah in 2.0 mode
[11:22] <zenger> L33tCh, thx for the tip
[11:22] <zenger> i will download the .run from nvidia
[11:23] <acicula> gartral, its also listing the dongle as a phone device, which is mildly odd
[11:23] <gartral> acicula: i think ubuntu's blueZ is just borked... this it deffinatly not right
[11:25] <HanzZ__> hm
[11:25] <acicula> maybe, dunno you can make the os believe its any type of device as far as i know
[11:25] <acicula> mine is listed as 	Device Class: Computer, Laptop
[11:26] <L33tCh> zenger: np... ah yes, no debs there
[11:26] <Severity1> EgyParadox, back
[11:27] <acicula> gardar, but dunno how to get ubuntu to enable the device in bluetooth 2.1+EDR mode
[11:27] <gartral> acicula: i seriously think ubuntu's bluetooth is F'ED up.. look at this, same device.. but http://pastebin.com/zSyNm1MV
[11:28] <paissad> what is the command i should type which is the equivalent of Ctrl Alt Backspacke
[11:28] <gartral> the serial, capabilities, and device class changed between scans, i didnt touch a thing
[11:28] <paissad> logout ...
[11:28] <jrib> paissad: why, what do you want to accomplish in the end?
[11:29] <paissad> jrib, to disconnect the user
[11:29] <paissad> not reboot or halt
[11:29] <onetinsoldier> !tty | paissad
[11:29] <paissad> onetinsoldier, i do know ttys
[11:29] <onetinsoldier> paissad: go to the tty terminal.. type in... sudo service gdm stop
[11:29] <paissad> onetinsoldier, i want to know how to end the session in tty 7
[11:30] <paissad> onetinsoldier, ok !
[11:30] <acicula> gartral, you get that by repluggin the device?
[11:30] <sanguisdex> can any one help me figure out why whenever I try to watch the daily show online my wifi connection dies?
[11:30] <onetinsoldier> paissad: ok, good luck
[11:30] <jrib> paissad: you've asked about three different things now.  ctrl-alt-backspace used to zap X which meant that every user's X session got dropped.  If you want to logout, then click the button in the top right corner and select log out.  Is that what you want?
[11:30] <Weust`> hi, i setup windowskey + 1 for desktop one and so on, but after each reboot it seems to forget this, i use compiz and i have to go to shortcuts every time again, the shortcut is still there (Mod4 + &) and i just have to assign something else to it and then back to the original one and it works, how can i fix this?
[11:30] <gartral> acicula: *between scans* i didnt touch it.. not even the chasis of the system..
[11:30] <acicula> gartral, that sure is weird
[11:31] <paissad> jrib, i can click ^^ .... but i wanted to know the associated command line
[11:31] <massimo> Hello I switched from gnome to KDE. In gnome I have properly configured dual screen layout. I cannot get two seperate screens in KDE using krandr. I tried now with a completely empty xorg.conf. Why does xrandr work on gnome but not on KDE4?
[11:31] <gartral> acicula: well, it's something i use every other month, so im not real worried.. but still, it's annoying
[11:31] <jrib> paissad: gnome-session-save --logout   then
[11:32] <acicula> gartral, seems its just not detected properly. Could try another dongle i suppose
[11:32] <gartral> acicula: at $40 usd.. i could only afford the one, keep in mind it's a class 1 (100 Meter) radio
[11:32] <Anomie2> MySQL on my ubuntu server keeps crashing
[11:33] <acicula> gartral, buy a cheaper class :)?
[11:33] <Anomie2> It just went down there - how can I check what caused it/how to prevent it
[11:33] <theadmin> Anomie2: Maybe some logs.
[11:33] <gartral> acicula: this was the cheapest at radioshack, they had a class2 BT 3 radio.. for 100 bucks
[11:34] <acicula> gartral, bt3.0 is kind of useless given that no phone/laptop can use one, 40 bucks for a bt dongle is quite a lot tbh
[11:34] <Anomie2> where are they kept?
[11:35] <gartral> acicula: even amazon wants 30
[11:35] <gartral> acicula: i could get one for 2 bucks on deal extream, but those ARE bt2-EDR
[11:35] <theadmin> Anomie2: Dunno, not much into MySQL, I just keep it on servers so such stuff as phpBB can work :D
[11:35] <gartral> acicula: that's deliberatly "no edr"
[11:35] <Anomie2> /var/log/mysql is empty
[11:37] <gartral> Anomie2: ubuntu's logd is borked, i have 3 systems, two were fresh 10.04 release installs, one was a update through beta 1>2>release, all three have totally empty /var/log/ dirs
[11:37] <d3vic3> can't connecto to hotspotshield server (xl2tpd + hotspotshield "maximum retries exceeded" issue)
[11:38] <jrib> gartral: that's pretty strange, my two lucid systems both have /var/log/ populated
[11:38] <Anomie2> :<
[11:38] <theadmin> Same as with jrib
[11:38] <theadmin> Straaange.
[11:38] <acicula> gardar, well its sortof optional for 2.0 yeah, newegg lists 2.1+edr class2 dongles starting at 15USD
[11:39] <gartral> jrib: one's an atom laptop, one's an i7 860 workstation, the other is my htpc.. all three are completly logless...
[11:39] <gartral> acicula: im over here bro! lol
[11:40] <acicula> any specific partitioning?
[11:40] <gartral> gardar: i'm sorry we have such easily confused names
[11:40] <jrib> gartral: is syslog running?
[11:40] <gartral> acicula: seperate /, /boot and /home, nothing else
[11:41] <gartral> jrib: how do i poke it too tell?
[11:41] <jrib> gartral: well I would just run: ps -ef | grep syslog
[11:41] <jrib> gartral: it runs as "rsyslogd -c4"  here
[11:41] <hielmy> exit
[11:41] <acnse> How is called the chat program that comes with ubuntu, that supports countless protocols, like msn, gtalk, aim,... ?
[11:41] <gartral> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Z84wxGCq
[11:42] <LjL> acnse: empathy, although it was pigdin in older versions, and before that gaim
[11:42] <Metrik> hey, anyone bored and mind me asking a couple of really simple install question?
[11:42] <onetinsoldier> acnse: try empathy or pigdin
[11:42] <tarzeau> Metrik: shoot
[11:42] <elky> Metrik, best bit about this channel is you don't need to ask permission to ask a question.
[11:42] <tarzeau> acnse: i tried empthy with gtalk, didn't work at all
[11:43] <sanguisdex> when ever I access the dailyshow,com and try and watch an episode my wifi crashes and I have to turn the addapter of and thn on to reconnect, what error log should I be looking at?
[11:43] <Metrik> basically never used Linux before, and my desktop pc is fucked with syware to a degree you wouldnt believe so planning to install ubutu, sent off for a CD do i need to wipe my pc or can i just install off the CD as is?
[11:43] <primate> you can use google talk within your browser, but it should work
[11:43] <primate> tarzeau, did you try jabber?
[11:43] <LjL> Metrik: mind the language here please. you can install from the CD directly, it'll give you options for wiping your hard drive before install
[11:44] <Metrik> cool, thanks mate, and appologies for the language.
[11:44] <acicula> sanguisdex, everytime you play a video from thedailyshow your wifi crashes?
[11:44] <massimo> How do I generate a new xorg.conf?  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'  does not work.
[11:44] <gartral> Metrik: stop looking a p2p porn :)
[11:44] <sanguisdex> acicula: yeah
[11:45] <acicula> sanguisdex, and by that you mean it disconnects and starts to reconnect or?
[11:45] <tarzeau> primate: yes
[11:45] <tarzeau> primate: i mean audio+video, not just text
[11:45] <tarzeau> primate: for text i got irc
[11:45] <primate> right
[11:45] <primate> yeah same issue here
[11:45] <tarzeau> primate: the audio/video is only for windows/mac
[11:45] <Metrik> gartral, never
[11:45] <jrib> gartral: try restarting it in debug mode I guess. Did you save /etc from a different install (are the rsyslog configuration files the package manager's ones)?  Do you have strange permissions on /var/log or any of its parents?  What's your partitioning scheme like?
[11:46] <Metrik> last question, how difficult is it to play WOW with a Ubutu machine?
[11:46] <Metrik> is it possible?
[11:47] <onetinsoldier> Metrik: from what i've heard, yes
[11:47] <sanguisdex> acicula: I will be watching then all of a sudden the video will freeze, then I will get a message from the OS that says I have been disconnected. I turn off the wifi addapter then turn it onn again and I can reconnect to the network
[11:47] <L33tCh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[11:47] <primate> tarzeau, I use google video all the time, sometimes, at least, it's better than skype in quality
[11:47] <onetinsoldier> Metrik: you use 'wine' to run it
[11:47] <onetinsoldier> !wine
[11:47] <primate> here's hoping there is better firefox support in ubuntu soon
[11:47] <xyz> hey
[11:47] <gartral> jrib: the scheme on the laptop and htpc are bi partition, / and a swap part. no, i did a completly fresh install on each (WS with 10.04 b1, both others with release) i dont have special perms, and the only backups i have are on BDroms
[11:47] <primate> (for google talk)
[11:47] <primate> err video
[11:48] <tarzeau> primate: i see, but not with linux, or?
[11:48] <tarzeau> primate: i use google chrome or chromium. think it's FAR better than firefox
[11:48] <jrib> gartral: you have a /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf that tells rsyslog to log things to /var/log and that gets included from /etc/rsyslog.conf?
[11:48] <Metrik> Thanks for the help everyone :) probs see you in a week when I`ll have a dozen more question once I`ve installed. thanks
[11:48] <primate> tarzeau> agreed
[11:48] <acicula> sanguisdex, well the messages from the network connection daemon go into syslog, but there maybe something in dmesg too, perhaps the kernel driver crashing
[11:48] <acicula> sanguisdex, if you get disconneccted is the list of available wlans empty?
[11:48] <xyz> hey
[11:48] <rohan> i am having this problem while updating my repos - http://pastebin.com/P5kkEt1D - can someone help please
[11:49] <gartral> jrib: partition scheme for ws is / 40 gb, /home 800 gb, and 10 gb /boot.
[11:49] <xyz> does anyone know an editor exist for hermite interpolation in linux
[11:49] <sanguisdex> acicula: let me watch and find out
[11:49] <acicula> 10GB for boot seems a bit excessive
[11:49] <primate> tarzeau> it seems strange that there wouldn't be linux support, considering the android platform
[11:49] <brijith> Hi all, Why this difference.   see the red marked figures in the image http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=957
[11:49] <primate> but as far as I know there isn't
[11:50] <primate> somebody please correct me if they know otherwise
[11:50] <lyrae> does anyone know how to work chrome's bookmarks sync?
[11:50] <lyrae> i sync but it doesnt show in google.com/bookmarks
[11:50] <sanguisdex> acicula: I remember no I can still see a list of networks but can't connect to my own
[11:50] <Slek> hoi
 i am having this problem while updating my repos   ...You need a new Public key to verify the PPA's. There is a thread on ubuntuforums. Search for new public key
[11:51] <acicula> sanguisdex, weird, anyway /var/log/syslog or dmesg may hold some clues as to whats causing the disconnect
[11:51] <gartral> jrib: that file is populated... on all three systems it's same pretty much (few extra enties for small things like xbmc (HTPC), vbox(WS), and my 3g(netbook).. but none have a populated /var/log except my ws, which is populated 100
[11:51] <brijith> Hi all, Why this difference.   see the red marked figures in the image http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=957
[11:51] <primate> lyrae, make sure they are in the folder "Imported From Google Toolbar"
[11:51] <gartral> jrib: that file is populated... on all three systems it's same pretty much (few extra enties for small things like xbmc (HTPC), vbox(WS), and my 3g(netbook).. but none have a populated /var/log except my ws, which is populated 100% by blank log files
[11:52] <gartral> (sorry for the repeat, accidentally hit enter)
[11:52] <lyrae> primate, please more details
[11:52] <moetunes> brijith: is that spam?
[11:52] <jrib> gartral: that's ok, I was really confused at the end of the last message :)  Try running in debug mode
[11:52] <lyrae> on my browser or website?
[11:52] <sanguisdex> thanks acicula I will tail both
[11:52] <gartral> jrib: running what in debug mode?
[11:52] <jrib> gartral: rsyslogd
[11:52] <acicula> brijith, all memory is used, but not all memory is in use to run prorams directly , but used for instance to cache data
[11:53] <gartral> jrib: ok.. how?
[11:53] <primate> Lyrae, Wrench Icon > Bookmark manager > then look at side bar
[11:54] <xyz> hey
[11:54] <xyz> i need spline interpolation editor
[11:54] <xyz> someone knows
[11:54] <xyz> does it exist in linux
[11:54] <onetinsoldier> brijith: hello. good question! and i'm not sure of the answer. but i think that one if for cpu processes, and the other for the proc filesystem. but again, i don't really know
[11:54] <brijith> acicula:ok
[11:54] <jrib> gartral: don't know offhand.  There may be a "nicer" way, but it has a -d switch, so one way would be to stop the rsyslog service and then start rsyslogd yourself (presumably with -c4 and) with -d
[11:54] <onetinsoldier> brijith: if you want to see the proc filesystem, try --> ls /proc
[11:55] <jrib> !away > russo|away
[11:55] <gartral> jrib: that last bit partially flew over my head
[11:55] <primate> Lyrae, when you add a bookmark make sure it goes in there
[11:55] <onetinsoldier> brijith: hello. good question! and i'm not sure of the answer. but i think that one is* for cpu processes, and the other for the proc filesystem. but again, i don't really know
[11:56] <L33tCh> xyz: there will be, i'm sure of it... there's a package spline... see if it's what you need
[11:56] <jrib> gartral: you would just run: sudo rsyslogd -c4 -d .  You should probably take a quick look at the documentation to see if there is some better recommended way though
[11:57] <onetinsoldier> brijith: you can also read about the proc filesystem with --> man proc
[11:58] <codename_nos1> i m installing all gstreamer plugins and facing trouble that i cant get enough speed
[11:58] <Anomie2> Can anyone tell me how to turn mySQL loggin on in 9.10
[11:58] <erasin_> #ubuntu-cn
[11:58] <erasin_> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:58] <sanguisdex> Anomie2: do you have mysql installed?
[11:58] <theadmin> erasin_: /join #ubuntu-cn
[11:58] <Anomie2> sanguisdex; Yep, it keeps crashing though
[11:59] <brijith> erasin_:its \
[11:59] <erasin_> ??
[11:59] <acicula> codename_nos1, speed?
[11:59] <Anomie2> (by 'keeps' I mean 3x in the past 3 months - but I'm running a web server so it shouldnt crash at all)
[11:59] <erasin_> i know
[11:59] <rsynnott> Anomie2: when it crashes, what does it put in syslog?
[11:59] <compengi> lucid doesn't have /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore? where can i set kernel parameters then?
[11:59] <brijith> erasin_: in /join #ubuntu-cn its not / its \
[12:00] <acicula> compengi, /etc/default/grub
[12:00] <theadmin> compengi: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:00] <erasin_> thanks
[12:00] <theadmin> brijith: no, it is /
[12:00] <sanguisdex> Anomie2: for a gui you could install the mysql administrator
[12:00] <acicula> no grub.cfg should not be edited, as its fully autogeneratred
[12:00] <erasin_> \join #ubuntu-cn
[12:00] <onetinsoldier> compengi: grub is now configured in /etc/default/grub and in /etc/grub.d
[12:00] <theadmin> erasin_: It goes teh other way: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:00] <d3vic3> can't connecto to hotspotshield server (xl2tpd + hotspotshield "maximum retries exceeded" issue)
[12:00] <sanguisdex> or you can just do it cli "mysql -u root -pPASSWORD"
[12:01] <compengi> onetinsoldier, where do i set kernel parameters?
[12:01] <acicula> compengi, you have to run update-grub2 to regenerate the grub.cfg file so the changes to /etc/default/grub take effect.manual changes to grub.cfg itself only last until the file is regenerated(by update-grub2)
[12:01] <Severity1> codename_nos1, not enough download speed?
[12:02] <lyrae> primate, i only see 'bookmarks bar' and 'other bookmarks' as folders
[12:02] <onetinsoldier> compengi: hehe, what i told you is probably about all i know. but i think it might be in... /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:02] <Anomie2> rsynnott: http://p.linode.com/3846
[12:02] <Anomie2> it crashed around 11:30 this morning (I think)
[12:02] <BiggFREE> Hi
[12:02] <primate> try bookmarks bar and see what happens
[12:03] <onetinsoldier> !hi | BiggFREE
[12:03] <acicula> compengi, you can define (global) kernel options in /etc/default/grub
[12:03] <primate> lyrae
[12:03] <lyrae> primate, ko. theres a bookmark in there
[12:04] <rsynnott> Anomie2: you're running out of memory
[12:04] <rsynnott> what's running on the machine besides MySQL?
[12:04] <Anomie2> uhm apache and php
[12:04] <BiggFREE> I am just reading for now.  Thanks
[12:04] <adies> acicula, are you here?
[12:05] <acicula> adies, yeah
[12:05] <compengi> acicula, hmm.. and what variable is responsible for that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or which one?
[12:05] <rsynnott> Anomie2: are you primarily using myisam or innodb?
[12:05] <Anomie2> rsynnott: never heard of either of them
[12:05] <adies> acicula, now i have to have to open gufw and enable it in order to be able to connect.
[12:05] <acicula> compengi, i'd have to guess, try man grub(2) or google
[12:05] <mwd> In Ubuntu Server 10.04, I can not get the resolution (console, no GUI) higher than 640x480. When I try to change GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX, the system crashes when booting.
[12:05] <rsynnott> Anomie2: they're mysql table engines
[12:05] <rsynnott> are you just using a default mysql config?
[12:05] <Anomie2> I have 360MB RAM on a VPN - it should be fine, no?
[12:05] <Anomie2> yeh default config
[12:05] <adies> acicula, by the way, sorry I take so long
[12:06] <Dr4g> Am i able to extend the allocated space set for my WUBI installation ? I only have 2GB left but i have lots left on /host (the controlling windows parition)
[12:06] <rsynnott> how much resident memory does MySQL use, normally?
[12:06] <Anomie2> dunno
[12:06] <primate> any luck lyrae?
[12:06] <gartral> jrib: im hard pressed to find a manual for rsyslog/d
[12:07] <jrib> gartral: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc
[12:07] <acicula> adies, i dont know, if you disabled ufw i have no idea why you would need to enable it again first to get connection working
[12:07] <padi999> is it possible to scan an A4 letter so that the letters can be interpreted within the output pdf (meaning: extractable as text, not as image)?
[12:07] <lyrae> primate, nope. im about to google hard on how to fix this
[12:07] <lyrae> primate, thanks for the help :) ill be back with results
[12:07] <primate> ok, good hunting
[12:08] <deufrai> Bonjour, depuis ma mise à jour vers Lucid, Evolution (v 2.28.3) quitte systématiquement après plusieurs minutes. Je l'ai lancé depuis un terminal en espérant voir quelques messages sur STDOUT ou STDERR, mais rien. Une idée de la manière dont je pourrait diagnostiquer le problème ?
[12:08] <theadmin> ubottu: fr | deufrai
[12:08] <deufrai> oh sorry, english channel
[12:08] <rsynnott> Anomie2: sounds like you may be a little in over your head :S
[12:08] <Vooloo> does anyone know of an SNMP application that can run a graph from my router in the background on the desktop or similiar?
[12:08] <jrib> gartral: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-troubleshoot.html section on Debug Log is what you want
[12:09] <acicula> Vooloo, yeah programs like zenoss/cactus/nagios can do that
[12:09] <deufrai> Hi there, since my update to Lucid, Evolution v2.28.3 keeps quitting on me after a few minutes of use. I tried and launched if from a terminal in order to check for messages on STDERR or STDOUT, but I got nothing. What do you suggest to help diagnose this issue ?
[12:10] <Vooloo> acicula: thanks will look them up
[12:10] <[Screamo]> Is there anyway to clear out Temp data?
[12:10] <Anomie2> rsynnott: why, because I don't know every command by heart? lol
[12:10] <acicula> [Screamo], not really
[12:10] <[Screamo]> :/
[12:10] <rsynnott> Anomie2: no.
[12:11] <acicula>  tmp is cleared on boot, other then that its up to programs individual responsibility
[12:11] <[Screamo]> I'm trying to install imageshack-uploader, and it has to download dependencies, but i canceled it the first time, and now its trying to resume at like 80% of downloading, but it only downloads at like 50B/s
[12:11] <acicula> are you running out of sace?
[12:12] <rsynnott> Anomie2: but if you're running a production server you really should know a certain set of things
[12:12] <xyz> L33tCh,  i installed spline is program name stopmotion do you know that ?
[12:12] <zulgaban> hi
[12:12] <occy> Anyone know of an mp4 metadata mover for Ubuntu?
[12:12] <occy> preferably something I can use on command line
[12:13] <[Screamo]> Anyclues?
[12:13] <Vigo> [Screamo]: What is the source or is it in the Repositories?
[12:13] <Anomie2> 2150 mysql     20   0  130m  27m 6128 S    0  7.9   0:12.90 mysqld
[12:13] <gartral> jrib: the debug info talks about setting up rsyslog after a reboot.. and they say to "edit your system's rsyslog environment settings script" without giving any hint to what that would be called in ubuntu...
[12:13] <[Screamo]> Vigo, its a .deb
[12:13] <jumbers> Is there any way in evince to disable the sidebar completely? Every time I open a new PDF, it brings back the thumbnail sidebar, even if I close it
[12:14] <jumbers> I didn't used to do that in Jaunty
[12:14] <dancek> [Screamo], can you paste the output of df to a pastebin
[12:14] <jumbers> it*
[12:14] <acicula> jumbers, toggle the side pane option?
[12:14] <[Screamo]> df?
[12:14] <[Screamo]> =/
[12:14] <gartral> jumbers: Adobe acrobat calls that a "Feature" and i dont know of a way to kill it
[12:14] <dancek> [Screamo], open a terminal and type df
[12:14] <jumbers> acicula: If I close it, the next time I open a PDF, it comes back
[12:14] <acicula> dunno
[12:15] <Anomie2> rsynnott: why? I've managed to run it for the past 6 months fine and I'm sure I'll fix this problem too.
[12:15] <jrib> gartral: can you pastebin?
[12:15] <gartral> jumbers: again, adobe calls that annoyance a "feature"
[12:15] <Anomie2> once I find someone more helpful :)
[12:15] <gartral> jrib: of course
[12:15] <Orpheus> Excuse me, I have a question about codec handling:  I have a file that uses the windows media 9 audio format, and as far as i can tell, there is no audio codec anywhere in the repositories, and VLC doesn't support the format either - does anyone have a fix or am I just gonna have to live without sound?
[12:15] <[Screamo]> dancek, ive got plenty of free space
[12:15] <acicula> Orpheus, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:15] <Vigo> [Screamo]: From the repos or from a website?
[12:16] <jumbers> gartral: Right, but this isn't acrobat reader, and it didn't used to do this on Karmic
[12:16] <gartral> Orpheus: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:16] <jrib> Orpheus: is there some free file somewhere you can link to that uses that codec?
[12:16] <Orpheus> I already did
[12:16] <[Screamo]> Vigo, i just want to delete the partial files it downloaded
[12:16] <jrib> !who | Orpheus
[12:17] <Vooloo> acicula: these are too heavy and none of them seem to have a desktop graph (which is what I need) .. or I could just login to my router and look at the graphs there
[12:17] <gartral> Orpheus: i dont see such a link in your lastlog entry man
[12:17] <Anomie2>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[12:17] <Anomie2> Mem:        356676     253364     103312          0       6104      67052
[12:17] <Anomie2> plenty of RAM left
[12:17] <jrib> jumbers: mine works ok, check your gconf permissions.  If nothing turns up, I'll check the gconf key that's responsible and we can go from there
[12:17] <Orpheus> gartral - sorry I meant that i already installed the restricted extras
[12:17] <codename_nos1> why apt-get is slow
[12:17] <Vigo> [Screamo]: Oh, are you familiar with dpkg (clean up stuff) ?
[12:17] <theadmin> codename_nos1: Choose another mirror.
[12:17] <[Screamo]> Vigo, http://toolbar.imageshack.us/windows-uploader/imageshack-uploader-2.2.0.deb
[12:18] <acicula> Anomie2, the amount of ram used varies with the use
[12:18] <Severity1> codename_nos1, so the apt-get download is slow?
[12:18] <Orpheus> gartral - and said file in question is... er... how shall I say it.... delicate material....  >.>;
[12:18] <codename_nos1> headmin how to choose
[12:18] <rsynnott> Anomie2: has mysql been running for a reasonably long time?
[12:18] <dancek> [Screamo], so you installed it with dpkg -i, right?
[12:18] <Severity1> theadmin is right choose another mirror
[12:18] <codename_nos1> severity1 yes
[12:18] <theadmin> codename_nos1: Do you have GNOME/KDE or is it CLI only?
[12:18] <gartral> Orpheus: is there a free liscence audio file you can point us too so we can hack apart it's guts and see what's it built like?
[12:18] <jrib> jumbers: actually, mine only remembers that I closed the sidebar per document.  Is that true in your case?
[12:18] <codename_nos1> gnome
[12:18] <Anomie2> Nope, it crashed around an hr ago
[12:18] <jumbers> jrib: Yes
[12:18] <[Screamo]> dancek, i just 2x clicked it and installed it that way
[12:18] <theadmin> codename_nos1: System - Admininstration - Software Sources
[12:18] <codename_nos1> k
[12:19] <rsynnott> Anomie2: okay, it won't be at full memory utilisation yet then, probably
[12:19] <Orpheus> gartral - do not know, but I can look and come back
[12:19] <jumbers> jrib: It didn't used to act this way on Karmic. I closed it once and it never came back again, document to document
[12:19] <rsynnott> who wrote the webapps?
[12:19] <codename_nos1> but is it ok to change while running apt-get ?? 60% is finished !
[12:19] <theadmin> codename_nos1: Uh, no you can't change while running
[12:20] <gartral> codename_nos1: NO! do NOT interrupt the APT! this WILL break your ubuntu!
[12:20] <Vigo> [Screamo]: Maybe;> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757059
[12:20] <theadmin> gartral: If it's just downloading yet no probs at all
[12:20] <acicula> well if its downloading still you'll be ok, if its already installing it'll hose stuff
[12:20] <jumbers> You can kill it durning download, but it would be a bad idea to do so while it's installing
[12:20] <theadmin> gartral: Do not scare people
[12:20] <hello-everybody> How can i install my native language and font for openoffice.org?
[12:20] <L33tCh> well, if it's still downloading it won't damage it... only if started installing
[12:20] <gartral> theadmin: i've had apt break while interrupting it's download proccess
[12:21] <theadmin> gartral: Me too, apt-get -f install fixed it
[12:21] <kuya> hello, how do i make lucid boot to a text prompt and skip all the X stuff? i thought it was inittab but i think im a few years out of date
[12:21] <theadmin> kuya: sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.DISABLED
[12:21] <dancek> [Screamo], i really don't know what ubuntu does when you double-click a .deb and i'm not on an ubuntu machine... hope someone else can help
[12:21] <kuya> thanks theadmin
[12:22] <[Screamo]> dancek, it installs it with a GUI
[12:22] <gartral> theadmin: the last time i tryed apt-get -f. i had to boot into livecd, tell grub what my drive's UUID was, boot, and run dpkg --configure -a
[12:22] <theadmin> [Screamo]: Install .deb files using "gdebi something.deb"
[12:22] <sanousy> I did not find till now any video conferencing application working except Skype!
[12:22] <sanousy> Why?
[12:22] <acicula> Anomie2, if its mysql thats running out of memory then you either need to set stricter limits on mysql resource usage, or reduce the load on the db, for example by improving really bad queries, youll need to profile the webapp for that. It can also be caused by a a bug in the sql db code off course.
[12:23] <jrib> jumbers: I guess we should start by figuring out where evince stores the info per document
[12:23] <acicula> kuya, sysvinit is replaced by upstart
[12:23] <Anomie2> acicula: cheers
[12:23] <gartral> jrib: you asked iif i could pastebin a while ago and left the convo hanging
[12:24] <Guest93840> which is the name of the package needed for x11 forwarding in the destination machine... I recall beeing it x11-auth long time ago or similar
[12:24] <zzzzmol1> hola
[12:24] <jrib> gartral: did you pastebin?
[12:24] <gartral> jrib: pastebin WHAT?
[12:24] <jrib> gartral: the log
[12:24] <gartral> of?
[12:24] <jrib> gartral: rsyslogd -d
[12:25] <Vooloo> is it possible to display a png image on a desktop that updates every 5 seconds?
[12:25] <jrib> gartral: the only thing you ran :P
[12:25] <Humle91> can anyone recommend an easy to use ftp server
[12:25] <rsynnott> Anomie2: it is possible, of course, that the mysql config you're using was just designed for a bigger machine
[12:25] <theadmin> Humle91: A regular PureFTPd should be just fine :/
[12:25] <hello-everybody> Vooloo, lol
[12:25] <[Screamo]> Vigo, ty, the forum link worked :)
[12:25] <rsynnott> it's also possible that a webapp is allocating more memory than you'd expect
[12:25] <gartral> jrib: i never ran that cause i said the website's debug info told me i had to edit several files... that i have no clue where too look for
[12:26] <Vooloo> hello-everybody: well it would be useful... MRTG only creates images
[12:26] <Humle91> theadmin is it with a gui or with terminal?
[12:26] <recon69_lap> just upgraded, where did the volume control go in the pannel?
[12:27] <theadmin> Humle91: Terminal... it's a server. Since when those have a GUI? :/
[12:27] <hello-everybody> Can i install my native language font for openoffice.org?
[12:27] <theadmin> recon69_lap: Part of indicator applet now
[12:27] <acicula> rsynnott, oh yeah, really funky php scripts can also skyrocket memory usage
[12:27] <progesterone> Question: In the synaptic package manager, some of the packages are marked with Ubuntu logo (people holding hands in circular). What does it mean?
[12:27] <Humle91> theadmin since i ran filezilla over wine :P
[12:27] <sanousy> I am looking for a video conferencing application that works on both linux and windows!
[12:27] <sanousy> can anyone help me in that?
[12:27] <vasiph> how can open exe
[12:27] <jussi> sanousy: skype?
[12:28] <theadmin> vasiph: Don't.
[12:28] <jrib> gartral: I see.  I thought what you pasted was just a summary of the output from -d.  In http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-troubleshoot.html, just follow the bullet points in the "Debug Log" section.  I don't see anything about an "environment settings script", where do you see that?
[12:28] <recon69_lap> thx theadmin
[12:28] <acicula> vasiph, you can run ,some , windows prorams using wine
[12:28] <theadmin> vasiph: But to be serious, you can try with WINE. Will not help with that, though, ask on #winehq
[12:28] <jussi> !wine
[12:28] <hello-everybody> vasiph, you need to open exe in ubuntu?
[12:28] <jrib> vasiph: what exe exactly?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:29] <hello-everybody> jrib, win application
[12:29] <sanousy> I know skype, but it requires a lot of tweaking to work with linux
[12:29] <jrib> hello-everybody: that's not "exactly"
[12:29] <nozhkata> 1
[12:29] <nozhkata> 2
[12:29] <sanousy> I am looking for an open source application that is ported to different platforms.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sanousy: works flawlessly here, installed and it just worked
[12:29] <hello-everybody> jrib, then?
[12:29] <jumbers> sanousy: Skype has a native Linux client
[12:29] <Geralt> Hi, is it possible to install lucid lynx into a manually setup filesystem hierarchy?
[12:29] <rsynnott> most likely thing is probably just that the config has inappropriately large buffer pool or key cache settings, depending on if he's using innodb or myisam or both, though
[12:29] <jrib> hello-everybody: what application...?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sanousy: ekiga is an alternative
[12:29] <zzzzmol1> Desde la gran China de hace 6000 años pasando por las sociedades hindues , Asia , desde Asia a los pueblos de Aláh y todo África, hasta nuestros días. El cannabis ha estado presente en toda la historia como una planta adorada, odiada y hasta prohibida.
[12:29] <zzzzmol1> En la gran China se utilizaban los tallos de la planta para realizar tejidos en fibra, ropas resistentes y sacos. En la actualidad podemos encontrar una diversidad inmensa de productos fabricados con cannabis, desde productos alimenticios hasta vestuario pasando por todo tipo de complementos, aunque la realidad es que los productos mas demandados son tejidos bastos como cuerdas, cordeles , etc... Al margen de este uso, mas tarde se conocer
[12:29] <zzzzmol1> ían los efectos psicotropicos del cáñamo mas o menos por el 2700 a.C.
[12:29] <zzzzmol1> Los shadus constituyen un grupo aparte dentro de la sociedad hindú. Se dedican a practicar yoga, la meditación y a fumar marihuana. Llevan el pelo largo, a modo de rastas y no tienen pertenencias. Todo está por encima de la materia. Consagran su vida a Shiva y son casi mitológicos en la religión hindú.
[12:29] <FloodBot1> zzzzmol1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <acicula> Geralt, yeah, choose manual partitioning during boot and assign the partitions
[12:29] <jrib> Geralt: sure, why not?
[12:30] <nozhkata> c/
[12:30] <zzzmol> Desde la gran China de hace 6000 años pasando por las sociedades hindues , Asia , desde Asia a los pueblos de Aláh y todo África, hasta nuestros días. El cannabis ha estado presente en toda la historia como una planta adorada, odiada y hasta prohibida.
[12:30] <zzzmol> En la gran China se utilizaban los tallos de la planta para realizar tejidos en fibra, ropas resistentes y sacos. En la actualidad podemos encontrar una diversidad inmensa de productos fabricados con cannabis, desde productos alimenticios hasta vestuario pasando por todo tipo de complementos, aunque la realidad es que los productos mas demandados son tejidos bastos como cuerdas, cordeles , etc... Al margen de este uso, mas tarde se conocería
[12:30] <sanousy> So, I can say it is the only one?
[12:30] <zzzmol> n los efectos psicotropicos del cáñamo mas o menos por el 2700 a.C.
[12:30] <FloodBot1> zzzmol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <zzzmol> Los shadus constituyen un grupo aparte dentro de la sociedad hindú. Se dedican a practicar yoga, la meditación y a fumar marihuana. Llevan el pelo largo, a modo de rastas y no tienen pertenencias. Todo está por encima de la materia. Consagran su vida a Shiva y son casi mitológicos en la religión hindú.
[12:30] <Vigo> [Screamo]: You are most welcomed.
[12:30]  * rsynnott often thinks that mysql should require the user to complete a short quiz on basic concepts before it allows itself to be installed :)
[12:30] <vasiph> hello-everybody yes
[12:30] <rocket16> !spam | zzzmol
[12:30] <codename_nos1> theadmin still not workin.. i tried to run the choose best server but no luck
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> rsynnott: submit it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <sanousy> jumbers: is it the only one?
[12:31] <madjoe> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/desktop-linux.jpg
[12:31] <Geralt> acicula: jrib: the standard install does not offer my lvm/dv-crypt partition setup, so I've arranged it on the command-line, mounted everything and now I want my ubuntu installed into /mnt (so that I can chroot into it and configure it)
[12:31] <theadmin> rsynnott: I think that actually BIOS itself should give a basic computer knowledge quiz before letting user run the thing :D
[12:31] <shuji> Hi all - anyone able to help with making my ubuntu install function as a soft ap?
[12:31] <acicula> Geralt, ah yeah for FDE you have to use the alternate text based installer
[12:31] <rsynnott> ActionParsnip: to oracle, surely? :)
[12:31] <rocket16> shuji: You mean, using wubi?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> rsynnott: whichever, submit your suggestion as there are channels for it
[12:32] <shuji> rocket16: wubi? I thought that was a windows installer
[12:32] <rsynnott> I doubt they'd really do it :)
[12:32] <jrib> Geralt: read the help.ubuntu.com docs on setting up a chroot I guess?  Doesn't the alternate disk accomodate your setup though?
[12:32] <rocket16> shuji: Sorry, I did not understand the question, :(
[12:32] <rsynnott> (I'm pretty sure 90% of web developers would fail any reasonable test)
[12:33] <shuji> rocket16: I'm looking to use ubuntu to share an ethernet internet connection over wifi
[12:33] <along> @_@!
[12:33] <Geralt> jrib: ok, I'll look into the docs there (and I'm not sure if the alternate installer supports my setup, I've got only the regular livecd at the moment)
[12:33] <zamba> arguments for and against using USERGROUPS?
[12:33] <hello-everybody> vasiph, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[12:33] <acicula> zamba, on a single system not so much, but for managing larger groups in a network its usefull?
[12:33] <jrib> Geralt: it's probably worth investigating the alternate disk
[12:33] <jrib> !alternate | Geralt
[12:33] <zamba> acicula: i'm thinking security now..
[12:34] <zamba> acicula: people should be able to add stuff to their home directory without having to worry about security
[12:34] <acicula> zamba, yes, whats your point?
[12:34] <zamba> acicula: i see it as redundant
[12:34] <sanousy> gentlemen?
[12:34] <zamba> acicula: why should each user have its own group?
[12:35] <acicula> zamba, because it is a sensible default for desktops
[12:35] <zamba> acicula: but i guess not for servers?
[12:35] <acicula> as opposed to dumping all users in a user group
[12:35] <xro_> hi, why a  --> dig -x 63.240.178.211  has no answer?
[12:35] <gartral> jrib: one. single. line: rsyslogd: Could no open output file '/dev/xconsole' [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]
[12:35] <zamba> acicula: why is it sensible for desktops?
[12:35] <zamba> acicula: what "extra" does that give you?
[12:35] <Geralt> jrib: thanks, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html the text based installer does support encrypted lvm :)
[12:36] <sanousy> Is it ok to chat on private? where I cannot catch up with the scrolling text?
[12:36] <jrib> gartral: now we have something to google
[12:37] <Vigo> scroogle
[12:37] <acicula> zamba, it separates two different users on the same system, if you dont want that why would you have two users
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> xro_: takes 6 seconds (first time) here, now will take 0 seconds
[12:38] <acicula> zamba, you can still group users together via Users & Groups
[12:38] <gartral> jrib: ok...
[12:38] <jrib> gartral: related: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/459730 .  fwiw, I do not have /dev/xconsole on my system
[12:38] <kofian> [#ubuntu-es]
[12:38] <xro_> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> xro_: i use dnsmasq, so the resolution etc has been added to the services config
[12:39] <hello-everybody> any software for video editing like ulied?
[12:39] <vasiph> how can install winrar?
[12:39] <Dr4g> Am i able to extend the allocated space set for my WUBI installation ? I only have 2GB left but i have lots left on /host (the controlling windows parition)
[12:39] <jrib> !rar | vasiph
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> xro_: makes webbrowsing slightly faster as I keep all resolutions local rather than consulting the web every time
[12:39] <kofian> hola un saludo
[12:40] <kofian> tengo un problema
[12:40] <leetsweden> brb
[12:40] <vasiph> sudo apt-get install unrar  ?
[12:40] <jrib> gartral: so your next task is to figure out if it's related to your issue or not
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> xro_: http://pastebin.com/jqGeLYTS
[12:40] <HugoDaniel> hi
[12:40] <jrib> vasiph: if that's what ubottu's link told you, sure
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[12:41] <codename_nos1> how to make a directory that is accessible to all other OS without any permission ?? i m tripplebooting windows, slack, ubuntu
[12:41] <maxime> Hello
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: winrar is for windows, ubuntu is not windows so you don't need winrar
[12:41] <jungli>  /join #shellium
[12:41] <kofian> porque no puedo selecionar una red diferente con ubuntu 10.4
[12:41] <jrib> codename_nos1: depends on filesystem the directory is in...
[12:41] <hello-everybody> any video editing software?
[12:41] <acicula> jungli, don advertise
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: using those libs you can use fileroller in nautilus or in command line use: rar x file.rar
[12:41] <sanousy> codename_nos1: try samba sharing
[12:41] <jrib> hello-everybody: pitivi, kino
[12:42] <hello-everybody> jrib, which is good?
[12:42] <gartral> jrib: WOAW! i just spotted a major security leak in lucid! all mail seems to be logged in /var/log/messages! now im glad i dont log~!
[12:42] <Dr4g> Am i able to extend the allocated space set for my WUBI installation ? I only have 2GB left but i have lots left on /host (the controlling windows parition)
[12:42] <Dr4g> -0
[12:42] <jrib> hello-everybody: I don't do any video editing
[12:42] <maxime> Does anybody know how to force the users of a network to pass threw a proxy using ntlm without configuring each browner ?
[12:42] <jrib> gartral: yeah, I think that was mentioned in the last comment in the bug link
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: you may also want to install p7zip, p7zip-full and p7zip-rar  as well
[12:42] <jungli> :P
[12:42] <mwd> In Ubuntu Server 10.04, I can not get the resolution (console, no GUI) higher than 640x480. When I try to change GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX, the system crashes when booting.
[12:43] <LjL> gartral: but isn't /var/log/messages only readable by root? it is for me on Hardy.
[12:43] <jussi> hello-everybody: theres several good ones, lives, blender, kdenlive pitivi are all acceptable
[12:43] <gartral> jrib: anyone with access to vi can read mail on my mailserver... THAT is about as big as the random seed-non randomness on 8.10
[12:43] <Dr4g> mwd, maybe try #ubuntu-server
[12:43] <mwd> ok, thank you
[12:43] <acicula> LjL, -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 72096 2010-05-19 11:46 /var/log/messages
[12:43] <TheGrammarFreak> Is it possible to convert a .vmdk file to a .img?
[12:43] <luist> whats a good download manager to pause/resume my downloads?
[12:43] <jrib> gartral: yeah, it's only readable by users in the adm group
[12:43] <TheGrammarFreak> luist: DownThemAll is what I use
[12:44] <xro_> ActionParsnip, so you don't get any answer (nothing in answer section)... Is that mean --> no, PTR entry in the dns server?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> mwd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215566
[12:44] <gartral> jrib: ubuntu adds all users too adm by default, i know that
[12:44] <LjL> TheGrammarFreak: i think with qemu-img it should be
[12:44] <codename_nos1> sanousy sorry donn know much about samba but i want to make a specific partition and mount it to /data and share it with other os in multibooting
[12:44] <hello-everybody> jussi, thanks
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> gartral: not after the first one afaik
[12:45] <TheGrammarFreak> LjL: would that be the format "raw"?
[12:45] <jrib> gartral: hmm, doesn't seem to here (I just created one)
[12:45] <jrib> gartral: it's not as big as having the first user's password in plaintext though, right?
[12:45] <LjL> TheGrammarFreak: well, that depends on what you meant by "img"...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[12:45] <gartral> ActionParsnip: im looking at my dad's and brothers accounts, neither have been logged into, both are user (no admin) and at least my dad's is in adm
[12:45] <hello-everybody> jussi, another thing: i wanna type my native language but can i install my native language font for openoffec?
[12:45] <vasiph> ActionParsnip   thank for help!
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: np bro
[12:46] <gartral> jrib: not quite.. but still (lol as qnx joke)
[12:46] <vasiph> ActionParsnip   but i can`t use wireless it is not working well
[12:47] <jussi> !fonts | hello-everybody
[12:47] <Jacruth> hi there
[12:47] <TheGrammarFreak> LjL: a file I can flash to a USB stick. Using th dd command or something
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> vasiph: run: sudo lshw -C network     websearch for the product line to find guides
[12:47] <Jacruth> anyone know any program to manage the exchange market in Ubuntu?
[12:48] <LjL> TheGrammarFreak: that should be raw, yeah... but i'm not sure that will work anyway, won't the partition table of your vmdk file be very much different from what would be correct for the stick?
[12:48] <hello-everybody> Can i install my native font like hindi ?
[12:48] <TheGrammarFreak> LjL, I have got no idea.
[12:49] <jbendotnet> anyone know which (aging) ubuntu server version would default to php4 ?
[12:49] <TheGrammarFreak> LjL, I'll try it and find out :D
[12:49] <jbendotnet> 6 lts maybe?
[12:49] <LjL> :)
[12:49] <acicula> gartral, its still protected by by priviledges ,  and if its such a security risk then maybe you should reconsider combining a mail server and a desktop in that way too. Though unless there is a reason there seems little incentive to duplicate the content of email in the messages log
[12:49] <hello-everybody> it will be only for typing in openoffice.org
[12:49] <jbendotnet> have some dev work I need to do for an old project, and need to set up a vaguely matching vbox machine
[12:49] <hello-everybody> ?
[12:50] <djasjdsa> ./ join ubuntulinux
[12:50] <maxime> Does anybody know how to force the users of a network to pass threw a proxy using ntlm without configuring each browner ? Anybody ?
[12:50] <acicula> jbendotnet, isnt 4 eol?
[12:50] <jbendotnet> yeah
[12:50] <hello-everybody> browner?
[12:51] <gartral> acicula: then why does ubuntu do it by default.. aint that flooding the hdd with extra copies of mail? i mean, if it were just the envelope info... ok.. and this isnt my desktop, it's my workstation, BIG difference there
[12:51] <jbendotnet> acicula: but, stuill
[12:51] <maxime> browser sorry
[12:51] <maxime> :)
[12:51] <jbendotnet> acicula: until this project is refreshed properly, it'll be hosted on some crap shared hosting which is php4!±
[12:51] <Jacruth> Doeus anyone know any program to manage the Exchange Market?
[12:51] <hello-everybody> maxime, see pm
[12:51] <acicula> gardar, i dont see the significant difference in attack surface on a desktop or a workspace, but no i would not opt to duplicate the content of messages in /var/log/messages
[12:52] <acicula> s/gardar/gatrail
[12:52] <jbendotnet> looks like dapper 6.06 is php4
[12:52] <TheGrammarFreak> Jacruth, look in the repos
[12:52] <maxime> hello-everybody, I'll search that thx
[12:52] <gartral> acicula: you're comp is set up to... and workstations are a halfbreed server/desktop meant for development and production purposes
[12:52] <Jacruth> TheGrammarFreak, i did.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> maxime: you could ssh and put the http / ftp proxy address in /etc/environment
[12:53] <hello-everybody> ok
[12:53] <TheGrammarFreak> Jacruth, and? What did you find?
[12:53] <Jacruth> nothing
[12:53] <maxime> ActionParsnip, The problem is that the Users are under Windows (NT,XP)
[12:53] <Jacruth> there is not anything related to exchange market
[12:53] <Jacruth> or something like that
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> maxime: then ask in ##windows you can set it with group policy
[12:53] <gartral> jrib: well.. so far.. it looks like nvidia-drivers are too blame for my lack of loggage...
[12:53] <acicula> gardar, its a computer with a GUI and a network connection and a user behind it, what it actually does or the Hp it has is not very relevant. Maybe postfix has an option on what is logged to /var/log/messages
[12:54] <maxime> ActionParsnip, Oki thx
[12:54] <hello-everybody> hack
[12:54] <Jacruth> TheGrammarFreak, i tried with "broker", "broking", "charting" and something like that but there was not luck
[12:55] <gartral> acicula: read https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/459730 last comment. YOUR computer, EVERYONE'S here running lucid, if has webmail setup, is set to dupe all messages to /var/log/messages
[12:55] <TheGrammarFreak> Jacruth, I don't know then. I did a quick google to, but didn't find much. I was actually expecting there to be loads, it's weird. Do you have software for it on Windows or Mac?
[12:55] <gartral> acicula: and stop posting at gardar
[12:55] <Jacruth> I have Personal Broker, but I don't want to emulate it with wine
[12:55] <Dr4g> Am i able to extend the allocated space set for my WUBI installation ? I only have 2GB left but i have lots left on /host (the controlling windows parition)
[12:55] <Dr4g> -
[12:56] <Jacruth> nor Wine not VirtualBox
[12:56] <wilsche> D
[12:56] <Jacruth> it's extremelly sucking
[12:56] <gartral> acicula: trick; you can type gar <TAB><TAB> and get my name
[12:58] <wilsche> Hallo?
[12:58] <acicula> gartral, im aware of how my irc client works. and yeah i agree with that assesment, logging the full content should not be the default
[12:58] <nerdy_kid> hey where are the file templates stored? in GNOME it is ~/Templates, what about kde? (i know this is a kubuntu question but #kubuntu and #kde are quiet :( )
[12:58] <TheGrammarFreak> Jacruth, Hmm, well I still can't find much. Have you posted in the ubuntu forums? You way well have to resort to Wine if we can't find anything. That or you code it yourself. :D
[12:58] <airtonix> nerdy_kid, correct
[12:59] <airtonix> nerdy_kid, although when you talk about Templates are you referring to more than just the right click menu nautilus provides ?
[12:59] <Jacruth> TheGrammarFreak, I can't believe it. Do the Linux users invest in the stock exchange or they are poor?
[12:59] <Jacruth> xd
[12:59] <gartral> jrib: could this be related to my inability too switch users on my computers? when i select the option, my screen just locks, and when i come back, i get "Unable to start new display  The name org.gnome.DisplayManager was not provided by any .service files"
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Jacruth: maybe there is an equivelnt open solution
[13:00] <airtonix> !ot | Jacruth
[13:00] <acicula> gartral, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/581360
[13:00] <t0rc> Jacruth: might try looking on http://alternativeto.net/
[13:00] <nerdy_kid> airtonix im using kubuntu, so i was asking where kde stores the templates, just the right click ones :)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Jacruth: actually, yes I do
[13:00] <Jacruth> I will se alternativeto :-O
[13:00] <TheGrammarFreak> Jacruth, It suprises me too. I honestly thought there would be something. I'm poor and I use linux. :D
[13:01] <TheGrammarFreak> I've looked on alternativeto.net, didn;t find much
[13:01] <airtonix> nerdy_kid, im not to sure, but my advice would be to start looking at the  ~/.local/ folder
[13:01] <codename_nos1> 61% [39 libflite1 1,162B/7,274kB 0%]          3,516B/s 2h 12min 30s?????
[13:01] <nerdy_kid> airtonix ok thanks :)
[13:01] <codename_nos1> i m using main server
[13:01] <airtonix> Jacruth, what are you looking for ?
[13:01] <Jacruth> im looking for some stock exchange manager
[13:01] <Lartza_> How do you remove wubi install? My friend has two grubs now, onw for xubuntu he installed to another partition (on hd0) and another grub on /dev/sda2 from wubi
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: maybe its under heavy load, try a different server maybe
[13:02] <airtonix> Lartza_, i believe you remove it the same way you remove any piece of windows software
[13:02] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip i tried "select best server option" and still a minimal diff
[13:02] <HugoDaniel> does ubuntu 10.04 supports zfs ?
[13:02] <compaq> anyone every try the librfxswf-dev?  I installed it, and I was expected to have these swf tool available to me, such as as3compile, but I don't
[13:03] <airtonix> Lartza_, (since thats how its installed)
[13:03] <jrib> gartral: don't know.  I don't have /dev/xconsole either and I use nvidia drivers, yet I have logs.  My initial guess is that it's something you installed, but you should rule out this /dev/xconsole possibility first
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: well in this case its selected a slower one, why not manually choose one to see if its better
[13:03] <bartolomax> hi all!! anyone able to help with a nvidia problem...
[13:03] <hamo> i installed /boot on separate partition, now i can't find menu.lst, how can i edit bootloader now?
[13:03] <codename_nos1> k i m trin'...
[13:03] <jrib> !grub2 | hamo
[13:03] <airtonix> !details | bartolomax
[13:04] <Lartza_> airtonix, He did, now on boot he gets the grub with Xubuntu and WIndows XP, then choosing windows xp gets him grub with Windows and ubuntu
[13:04] <Lartza_> Second being the wubi one
[13:04] <TheGrammarFreak> In windows go to add/remove, and uninstall xubuntu from there?
[13:05] <bartolomax> nvidia card is not detected when hardware drivers looks for drivers
[13:05] <Lartza_> TheGrammarFreak: ...
[13:05] <compaq> !rfxswf
[13:05] <gartral> jrib: if it's something i installed, i should have logs from when i set up ubuntu.. on at LEAST one computer, but all three never logged from first boot it looks like
[13:05] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: which one is batter ftp or mirror or ??
[13:05] <Lartza_> He did uninstall wubi, installed xubuntu to dual-boot, another partition
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> bartolomax: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:05] <jrib> gartral: that's a good point
[13:05] <TheGrammarFreak> Lartza_, what?
[13:05] <Lartza_> But has extra grub on /dev/sda2
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: eithr is fine, there is an option incase proxies or security is used
[13:05] <Lartza_> Boot from grub gets him to anotehr grub
[13:05] <Lartza_> and from there to windows
[13:05] <jrib> gartral: I thought it may have been a faulty install disk too, but you said you upgraded one of the systems
[13:06] <TheGrammarFreak> Wubi doesn;t install grub
[13:06] <gartral> jrib: nvidia gtx 275 is the card i have, could that be a factor?
[13:06] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: where ??
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: where what?
[13:06] <codename_nos1> where is the option ?
[13:06] <jrib> gartral: I don't know, I doubt it
[13:06] <wilsche> :-)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: its in the optio in the software sources app
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> bartolomax: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa;  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185     works on my 6150 onboard :)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> gartral: see ^
[13:08] <gartral> jrib: yes, and special circumstances had me download and burn a fresh iso for both my workstation (x64) and HTPC (x32) and the netbook remix wich was installed too my netbook from iso-on-flash-drive.. each a seperate buld with exactly the same problem, (which reminds me, the netbook, being intel graphics, kicked my theory that it's nvidia-related out the door)
[13:08] <mkjackson> hey folks, can anyone tell me how to find out what driver I'm using for my audio card?
[13:08] <gartral> ActionParsnip: COMPLETLY different problem, my 3d accel works great
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> mkjackson: sudo lshw -C sound | grep driver
[13:08] <bartolomax> ok
[13:08] <mkjackson> I wish there was a "Device Manager" equivalent in ubuntu (is there?)
[13:09] <jrib> mkjackson: why?
[13:09] <TheGrammarFreak> mkjackson, I second that
[13:09] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: in software source we useally have only 5 options : Statistics, Authenticaiton ,Updates, software( othere and ubuntu ),
[13:09] <mkjackson> jrib: just so that I can easily see what devices have been detected and how they're configured
[13:09] <mkjackson> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[13:10] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: so how to increase proxies n securities ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> You want to use more proxys ?
[13:10] <LjL> codename_nos1: ... what?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: under the Ubuntu Software tab (first tab) there is a dropdown named "Download from"  click that and choose a different server
[13:11] <LjL> codename_nos1: GPG keys is what give you security.
[13:11] <airtonix> Lartza_, ok i see.. did he install xubuntu before or after removing wubi ?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: increase proxies?
[13:11] <Lartza_> airtonix: I found manual uninstall of wubi on wiki, it should work
[13:11] <airtonix> mkjackson, as in a tree navigation of devices which lets you modify properties ?
[13:12] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: thats what i did earlier ! and you told me to increase proxies and securities by an option !! lol
[13:12] <codename_nos1> think i missunderstood !!
[13:12] <airtonix> Lartza_, good luck, wubi is a curse that needs to be purged
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: i didn't. I said there are options between ftp and http due to some users using proxies
[13:12] <jrib> mkjackson: well lshw will list your devices.  Nothing configuration-wise though
[13:12] <mkjackson> airtonix: yeah, that sounds like it but I'm starting to think that maybe lshw is the answer (checking out the x11 mode now)
[13:12] <gartral> jrib: see my post to you?
[13:12] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: k.
[13:13] <airtonix> mkjackson, indeed. closest you'll get is a gtk version of lshw
[13:13] <jrib> gartral: yes, I agree with you
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen some other tools out that show lots of hardware info in a niecer gui. but i cant even rember their names.
[13:13] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: i did it already .. but still no luck. been there for 2hr -- only 76mb
[13:13] <jrib> Dr_Willis: lshw-gtk is probably one
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: maybe your provider is having issues
[13:13] <Tom^> any one knows what the version of catalyst on the ubuntu repo is?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: if you use a router, try turning it off for 10 mins, this will give you a fresh connection on powerup
[13:14] <codename_nos1> the torrents are workin just fine !!! they show me 50kbs speed
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> jrib:  yea - they were on some linux-rescue type cd's i recall.
[13:14] <codename_nos1> and i pused 'em
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: not sure then
[13:15] <gartral> jrib: i think.. in fact im sure.. that this is the first major consistency with ubuntu for me across archetectures.. all my computers, despite different hardware, installation methods, and builds of ubuntu, have exactly the same problem.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: maybe they are being updated which will use speed too
[13:15] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: yeah ! i guess .. the apt shows only 5kbps !! sucks
[13:15] <hello-everybody> is it possible sitting email with google smtp port?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> codename_nos1: could ask in #motu
[13:15] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: what is that ?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !motu | codename_nos1
[13:15] <hello-everybody> #coder
[13:16] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: and i m sure the torrent clients are terminated !
[13:16] <hello-everybody> *sorry
[13:16] <airtonix> mkjackson, try gnome-device-manager
[13:16] <janjiss> Hi, has anyyone experience with Windows to Ubuntu printing?
[13:16] <codename_nos1> ubottu going there !!  # motu
[13:17] <mkjackson> airtonix: thanks!
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> janjiss: share the printer using samba and it will be accessible from windows easily
[13:17] <airtonix> mkjackson, just be aware it uses hal (which is apparently being phased out )
[13:18] <maxime> ##windows
[13:18] <TheGrammarFreak> LjL, the image seems to have written successfully. I'll have to wait a while to see if I can boot from it
[13:18] <maxime> Oups
[13:18] <llutz> janjiss: win can print to cups directly, just make your cups-printers accessible from LAN
[13:18] <gartral> janjiss: you need wincups
[13:18] <mkjackson> airtonix: then it won't work for me cause I'm using Lucid which has already done away with the HAL (from what I know)
[13:19] <janjiss> gartral Where can i get it?
[13:19] <airtonix> mkjackson, not really.
[13:19] <airtonix> mkjackson, i also am using lucid and i just installed it
[13:19] <mkjackson> airtonix: that's strange then, I thought the HAL was gone in 10.4?
[13:19] <gartral> janjiss: http://jacksonengineering.net/proj_cups.php?lang=de
[13:19] <airtonix> mkjackson, so they say, but "they" can't be trusted...
[13:20]  * airtonix dispatches a team of highly trained monkeys
[13:20] <nerdy_kid> anyone know where the file templates in kubuntu are stored?
[13:21] <xyz> yat/join #matlab
[13:21] <xyz> sorry
[13:21] <jungli> y0000000000000000000000000000000000
[13:21]  * gartral steals airtonix's team of monkeys to work on his own 3 comps
[13:21] <janjiss> gartral: Thanks, I tried this one. On ubuntu machiene i recieve print jobs, but nothing prints out. If i print from other Ubuntu machine, everything works fine
[13:22] <gartral> janjiss: im willing to be the next line of text your windows box still has the printer driver for windows installed.. dont it?
[13:22] <codename_nos1> how come i m the only one in the #motu
[13:23] <jrib> codename_nos1: because you probably want #ubuntu-motu
[13:23] <codename_nos1> jrib: thanx @ got it
[13:23] <codename_nos1> lol
[13:23] <janjiss> gartral: Of curse, I installed it from hp's home page.
[13:24] <gartral> janjiss: theres your problem.
[13:24] <codename_nos1> ActionParsnip: got it workin ! choose the us server !! and bango 11
[13:24] <gartral> janjiss: you need cups on your windows box, and a working driver on your ubuntu print server. remove the hp driver from the windows desktop and resetup the shared printer
[13:25] <gartral> jrib: im completly at a loss.. think i should go to motu? ;p
[13:26] <jake__> ok I can't get a usb of ubuntu to boot up - how do i do it? it is giving me a headache! I have tried following online guides but they all don't work - my computer can boot from usb because it has worked with fedora
[13:26] <jrib> gartral: aren't you working on getting rid of the xconsole message to see if it's related to your issue?  I thought the bug report had comments about it
[13:26] <llutz> janjiss what device have you configured WIN-side? should be http://cupshost:631/printers/<PrinterName>
[13:26] <arcnewuss> how do i know i im using pulseaudio or alsa
[13:26] <jrib> arcnewuss: you're using pulseaudio
[13:26] <llutz> gartral: no need to have cups on windows since XP
[13:26] <arcnewuss> how do i know that jrib
[13:27] <jrib> arcnewuss: because pulseaudio is installed by default
[13:27] <llutz> gartral: windows supports ipp-protocol
[13:27] <raaf> hello - i am going to buy printer - is there some database hardware working on/with ubuntu/debian?
[13:27] <jrib> !printer | raaf
[13:27] <raaf> jrib: thank YOU :)
[13:28] <gartral> jrib.. i cant get any useful info out of rsyslogd.. all i get is that error.. and i've been up for hours.. i forgot why i initially came back in here
[13:28] <jrib> gartral: did you see what I just said?
[13:28] <arcnewuss> isnt there another way then jrib method to verify which alsa or pulseaudio is up
[13:28] <Izinucs> I've got two hardware drivers availble to activate for my nvidia card.. one is the 173 driver .. the other has no reference.. how do I find out what it is?
[13:28] <gartral> llutz: and ubuntu's cups's ippd is broken, only cups>cups is working for hp...
[13:28] <jrib> arcnewuss: you can check that pulseaudio running I guess...
[13:28] <elsa> I'm trying to add a printer via samba in Ubuntu 10.04, but I get an error saying "samba is not trusted" and that I should add it to my firewall, so I went to gufw and selected samba and add rule, but it still doesn't work, should I enter some ports manually?
[13:29] <gartral> jrib: no, my brain skipped the second line, sorry
[13:29] <arcnewuss> i only know top would it show up there
[13:29] <Dantix> morning everybody, I need to download the iso from 8.04 version, if possible the netbook edition, is possible? where could I find it?
[13:29] <jrib> arcnewuss: ps -ef | grep pulse
[13:29] <jrib> Dantix: releases.ubuntu.com probably
[13:30] <Dantix> jrib: I'll check that, thanks
[13:31] <jrib> Dantix: and see https://edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/ I guess
[13:31] <arcnewuss> thx
[13:31] <janjiss> gartral: Thanks, I try that out :)
[13:31] <Dantix> jrib: releases.ubuntu.com has it! thanks a lot
[13:32] <killown> i can't uninstall 'gosa' it give me a E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:32] <killown> anyone help me?
[13:33] <gartral> jrib: i see a bunch of back and forth about "do this", "no.. that's not the right approach", "do this then", "no", "this", "no" but no real solution
[13:34] <wutang> I have a windows 7 host system with the latest vmware.  Inside vmware I have ubuntu 10.04.  If I make the network connection NATd to the host, everything works fine, but if I bridge the connection then DNS will not work... does anyone have any ideas?
[13:34] <jrib> gartral: that's ok, you're just troubleshooting
[13:35] <naples> can you share files between two ubuntu installs in a dual boot configuration?
[13:35] <Izinucs> wutang: strange behavoir.. sounds like a vmware question as it controls the network for the vm
[13:35] <sixsicsix> hi everyone.  i'm pretty new to this, but i need a bit of help.  i'm bulding an ubunt server in which i'm going to kickstart some clients and auto install.   So far i've built my server, i've built a local mirror using apt-mirror,  i've got DHCP , TFTP, Apache, and DNS installed.     I downloaded the netboot.gz file for my PXE from the LUCID release.    When my client boots up it's failing to ge the files... the reason is the path it's trying to go to does 
[13:35] <gorski> Lucid won't boot x session, and it hangs sometimes, and on recovery mode also, help!!!
[13:35] <sixsicsix> if i simply add the debian-installer directory and move my stuff in, it finds the files, but the fails because the MD5 does not match
[13:35] <Rocafort8> Anyone knows how to mount a partition at the Ubuntu startup
[13:35] <wutang> Izinucs: well when i try nslookup, it says there are no DNS servers, but I have some listed in /etc/resolv.conf...any other place I should put the DNS servers?
[13:35] <gartral> jrib: but theres no solution!
[13:36] <sixsicsix> i built the boot stuff from the lucid netboot, and built my mirror from the lucid archive.  i dont understand why it's adding in this debian-installer into it's file get path
[13:36] <llutz> Rocafort8: add it to /etc/fstab
[13:36] <killown> i can't uninstall 'gosa' it give me a E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:36] <killown> anyone help me?
[13:36] <marienz> killown: pastebin more context please
[13:36] <marienz> killown: that is: the actual error message is probably higher up.
[13:36] <Izinucs> wutang: nope.. but you're looking on the ubuntu system and it sounds like the issue is actually with what vmware is doing on the windows side..
[13:37] <arcnewuss> can i force an application to use alsa
[13:37] <wutang> Izinucs: just not entirely convinced vmware is doing anything when i can netcat to a remote ip and ping a remote ip, and just dns doesn't work in bridged...i'll ask around in vmware, thanks
[13:38] <gorski> Lucid won't boot x session, and it hangs sometimes on recovery mode, help.
[13:38] <elsa> I'm trying to add a printer via samba in Ubuntu 10.04, but I get an error saying "samba is not trusted" and that I should add it to my firewall, so I went to gufw and selected samba and add rule, but it still doesn't work, should I enter some ports manually?
[13:38] <Izinucs> wutang: have you given virtualbox a try yet?
[13:38] <Rocafort8> llutz: Thanks
[13:38] <wutang> Izinucs: no, maybe I should
[13:39] <wutang> thanks for your help
[13:39] <gartral> jrib: intresting.. my magicjack hangs x on boot..
[13:39] <gartral> or, rather, gdm
[13:40] <gartral> jrib: i'll brb
[13:40] <Izinucs> wutang: sure..  I switched to vbox after 2 years of vmware.. never looked back.. of course if you're paying for commercial versions of vmware and are running blades then vbox get's a bit out classed.. but it's catching up.
[13:41] <Cube``> OK THIS is getting me mad. at home, i got my wlan network, but lots of neighbours got them too. ubuntu got the pw saved for mine, but keeps on trying to connect to other ones :S
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> gardar:  ive heard of others with Magjcjack goofing up linux on boot issues also.
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> oops he left. :) sorry wrong nick :)
[13:43] <Cube``> gosh
[13:43] <Cube``> i'm keeping myself from cursing in this channel
[13:43] <Cube``> but this bugs me for moneth
[13:43] <Cube``> *months
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> I dont have similer issues Cube``  so cant really help. It connects to my home and thats it.
[13:44] <dlublink> My mother-in-law just called, she tried to upgrade her computer from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS, but it failed. Now it is giving tons of errors. What should I do ? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? sudo apt-get -f install ?
[13:44] <StrongOrder_> Any of you guys, use Inkscape? I need some help
[13:45] <Cube``> strongOrder: i do
[13:45] <marienz> Cube``: networkmanager?
[13:45] <Cube``> marienz: yeah
[13:45] <Cube``> StrongOrder: but why not try inkscape chan_
[13:45] <marienz> Cube``: I'm not on my laptop right now, but there's a checkbox that tells it to auto-connect or not
[13:45] <Cube``> marienz: aaah
[13:45] <StrongOrder_> Cube``, I am having an output that differs from my svg file. http://drop.io/strongorder See the tail of the letter P
[13:46] <marienz> Cube``: right-click networkmanager applet -> edit connections -> wireless -> yours -> edit
[13:46] <StrongOrder_> Cube``, what could be the problem, I ended up taking a screenshot to create a png version
[13:46] <ubuntu> hi
[13:46] <mahershalal> Hi there. For a bug work around I have to edit the section "Device" in xorg.conf. The example I'm following has the following lines: Identifier "Device0" / Driver "Radeon" / etc. How do I find out which "Identifier" my graphics card is? Thanks.
[13:47] <noecc> Is it possible to have aliases when sudo su -s /bin/sh otheruser?
[13:47] <janjiss> llutz: You know what helped me? Windows generic driver :D
[13:47] <marienz> Cube``: also, if your router is "hiding" its name (I forgot what that's actually called) that'll stop it from autoconnecting. Confirm your own wlan is visible before you connect to it, and mess with your router if it isn't.
[13:47] <airtonix> StrongOrder, i assume this isn't what you normally do to acquire a png of your vectors ?>
[13:47] <ubuntu> I Love as
[13:48] <StrongOrder_> airtonix, well, I just installed inkscape, and that is my first try :)
[13:48] <Cube``> hmm i got this HUUUUGE list of wlan i have ever connected to
[13:48] <ubuntu> why???
[13:48] <Cube``> how can i delete everythin?
[13:48] <StrongOrder_> airtonix, I guess, bad luck :)
[13:48] <AndyGraybeal> is there a good explanation as to why the window pane control buttons moved from the right to the left?
[13:48] <AndyGraybeal> something my users will understand?
[13:49] <airtonix> StrongOrder, did you try the normal method of exporting a bitmap ?
[13:49] <marienz> Cube``: there's a "delete" button, and the list might allow you to ctrl+click or shift+click to select more than one entry.
[13:49] <airtonix> AndyGraybeal, experimentation on lab rats ?
[13:49] <gorski> Lucid won't boot x session, and it hangs sometimes on recovery mode, help.
[13:49] <ubuntu> I AM
[13:49] <marienz> Cube``: I'm not on my laptop, so that list is empty here.
[13:49] <AndyGraybeal> airtonix:  :)
[13:49] <ubuntu> dobra
[13:49] <ubuntu> ja
[13:49] <ezra-s> Friendly suggestion for the Ubuntu Website.. it would be nice of all *.ubuntu.com sites which are as useful as packages.ubuntu.com be included directly in the frontpage in the footer of the web page.
[13:49] <ubuntu>  ja
[13:49] <StrongOrder_> airtonix, yes, I did export selection, export page and drawing, all of them give me distorted letter P without a tail
[13:49] <ubuntu> robie
[13:49] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <marienz> AndyGraybeal: I think there's a blog post explaining it, let me have a quick look
[13:50] <Soyo> !pl
[13:50] <Cube``> !pl | ubuntu
[13:50] <ubuntu> Pl
[13:50] <ubuntu> tak
[13:51] <ubuntu> aha
[13:51] <ubuntu> okeja
[13:51] <ubuntu> nara
[13:51] <Soyo> nara
[13:51] <Cube``> nara
[13:52] <mahershalal> I need to know how to find out which Identifier/Device my graphics card is, in order to add some lines to xorg.conf. Please help, thanks.
[13:52] <StrongOrder_> Cube``, inkscape channel is asleep :)
[13:52] <marienz> AndyGraybeal: http://www.ivankamajic.com/?p=281 is one, but there may be a better one.
[13:52] <marienz> AndyGraybeal: they're a bit hard to search for, google mainly finds people complaining or providing instructions for switching it back.
[13:53] <Cube``> aah haha ok StrongOrder
[13:53] <nmvictor> Sometimes my  screen would just switch off for no apparent reason, I have read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver at some section that this cuold be due to Horizonatal and vertiical sync, I am karmic in iBook/800 g4, the screen is probably 12 " inch, i dont know what would be the appropriate Horizsync and vertsync for his, my xorg.conf is  at http://pastebin.com/erHh7LC4 , thanks in advance
[13:54] <chang> hi guys
[13:55] <mahershalal> What do you do when nobody answers your questions in this room? Come back later?
[13:55] <chang> i will keep silent
[13:55] <chang> or change another channel
[13:55] <TheGrammarFreak> Or just keep pestering. :D
[13:56] <codename_nos1> mahershalal ? what is it ?
[13:56] <nmvictor> mahershalal: i was wondering too, i will just wonder till someone answers
[13:56] <codename_nos1> lol
[13:56] <TheGrammarFreak> Win
[13:56] <mahershalal> I need to know how to find out which Identifier/Device my graphics card is, in order to add some lines to xorg.conf.
[13:56] <nmvictor> Sometimes my  screen would just switch off for no apparent reason, I have read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver at some section that this cuold be due to Horizonatal and vertiical sync, I am karmic in iBook/800 g4, the screen is probably 12 " inch, i dont know what would be the appropriate Horizsync and vertsync for his, my xorg.conf is  at http://pastebin.com/erHh7LC4 , thanks in advance
[13:56] <codename_nos1> nmvictor: dont flood !
[13:57] <mahershalal> The example I
[13:57] <arcnewuss> i did apt-get remove pulseaudio and now i have no sound
[13:57] <mahershalal> (sorry) The example I'm following uses these lines: Section "Device" / Identifier "radeon" / Option "enablePageFlip" "off" / EndSection
[13:57] <nmvictor> codename_nos1: its coz no one is answering, or what do you mean?
[13:58] <mahershalal> The important part is of course 'EnablePageFlip Off, but I need to know which parameters to use for the other lines, Identifier and Driver. How do I find this?
[13:59] <nmvictor> could anyone please help, ok how do i determin the appropriate Horizontal and vertical sync plus the refresh rate of my 12 " inch screen on my iBook/800 g4?
[14:01] <nmvictor> mahershalal: driver the diverr thet you are using for the card, mostly ati, radeon or some propiertery fg...something
[14:01] <codename_nos1> mahershalal: what is your problem ? sorry i was late
[14:02] <mahershalal> nmvictor: ATI radeon. But am if I use Device0 I get errors after restart. I think I need to use another paramter for that one.
[14:03] <corpse> Does anyone run glest at all?
[14:03] <dr_benway> hey all, /lib/init/readlink is borked on my machine - any ideas on how to clean up this: http://bpaste.net/raw/6493/
[14:03] <mahershalal> codename_nos1: I need to add some lines to xorg.conf, but I need to know which parameters to use.
[14:04] <mahershalal> Here's the matter at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stellarium/+bug/571396
[14:04] <Pici> mahershalal: I'd start by looking into your xorg log to see what it calls your graphics card.
[14:05] <mahershalal> Pici: is there a xorg log in lucid? Since there's no xorg.conf...
[14:05] <docmur> so I installed Google earth and when I run it, it crashes X and gdm restarts
[14:05] <docmur> I can't find any log file
[14:05] <Pici> mahershalal: in /var/log/
[14:05] <Reallycool> !controls
[14:05] <docmur> I've tried both version 4.2 and 5
[14:05] <docmur> anyone have an idea why
[14:06] <mahershalal> Pici: thanks!
[14:06] <grirgz> hi
[14:07] <Oer> docmur disable desktop effects for google earth.
[14:07] <Soyo> docmur | Not the log file for Google Earth, the log file for GDM
[14:07] <IdleOne> morning
[14:08] <m3wt> Hi all. I am using 10.04 and if I experiance a power outage, any file I have opened will be nulled (file size 0 bytes). I'm assuming its a filesystem error, I'm running Ext4. Is anyone else having these issues?
[14:08] <mahershalal> Pici: Xorg.3.log says: 'No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using the first device section listed: "Device0"'
[14:09] <furythor> Is Nvidia server settings showing always correct information, wondering because it shows that my graphics card is running on "medium" performance settings, even during playing
[14:09] <grirgz> i have a problem with apt, i'm using ubuntu 9.10, apt tell me to augment the cache size, i've done that in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02limit.local but apt doesnt read this file, how can i tell it to read this file ?
[14:09] <mahershalal> But if I use Identifier "Device0" / Driver 'radeon' in xorg.conf, Lucid restarts in low graphical mode.
[14:09] <juris> j #xubuntu
[14:10] <juris> ops
[14:10] <Pici> mahershalal: What video card do you have?
[14:10] <mahershalal> Pici: Radeon HD 4200
[14:11] <TheGrammarFreak> I'm using Docky, and it keeps randomly quitting. any idea why? Ubuntu lucid btw
[14:11] <tux_> hi
[14:12] <Izinucs> System>Preferences has iBus listed.. what is it?  It's not "on" by default.
[14:12] <tux_> where i get ubuntu stikers ............ i luv these stikers
[14:12] <TheGrammarFreak> the canonical store, tux_?
[14:14] <h00ked_ntb> finaly, I've a new router, Cyrix III 500MHz, 256MB ram & 13GB hdd, look on my baby :) http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1835/routerb.jpg
[14:15] <IdleOne> Can someone please tell me what the Score at the bottom of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/436146/ means ?
[14:15] <Ghid0rah> Hello, does anyone know how to edit the default theme for all users in Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:15] <docmur> crap I wasn't paying attention
[14:15] <docmur> did anyone have an answer
[14:15] <jrib> IdleOne: I doubt it!
[14:16] <IdleOne> jrib: lol, that is what I thought
[14:16] <IdleOne> jrib: any idea where/who could ask about it?
[14:16] <jrib> IdleOne: aptitude source
[14:16] <IdleOne> jrib: sorry?
[14:17] <rocket16> Ghid0rah: : You need to make a Shell script, then it might work.
[14:17] <jrib> IdleOne: you could read aptitude's source
[14:17] <Ghid0rah> so if I want to add an applet to the panel for all users I need to create a shell script?
[14:17] <IdleOne> jrib: ahh ok. well in that case....
[14:17] <jrib> IdleOne: basically aptitude compares possible solutions to dependency issues using these scores
[14:18] <igor_> olá alguém pode me ajudar?
[14:18] <jrib> !pt | igor_
[14:18] <IdleOne> jrib: what I really want to know is what is a "good" score
[14:18] <mahershalal> If anyone is still thinking about my problem (which I doubt but that's ok): I think I've found the answer.
[14:19] <oal> Is there a file with logs from notification popups?
[14:19] <jrib> IdleOne: it doesn't matter, it's just a way to compare possible actions
[14:19] <drobiazgowy> Hello
[14:19] <jrib> IdleOne: there is no "good" or "bad", just "better" or "worse"
[14:19] <drobiazgowy> What do you think about remastersys?
[14:19] <IdleOne> jrib: so in that case going with the default action is best
[14:20] <jrib> IdleOne: well read it and make sure aptitude's opinion corresponds to yours
[14:20] <IdleOne> jrib: right now I am on pre-alpha. I think I will go with aptitudes opinion
[14:20] <jrib> IdleOne: you're on maverick?
[14:21] <IdleOne> yes
[14:21] <jrib> IdleOne: yeah, you should definitely be reading closely then...
[14:21] <Soyo> !time
[14:21] <IdleOne> jrib: but this score thing has been bothering me for 3-4 years now
[14:21] <TheGrammarFreak> IdleOne, why?
[14:21] <Izinucs> jrib: IdleOne lives on the edge with his computer .. but I'll bet he drives a volvo :)
[14:22] <dlublink> ok, it says that I must reinstall flashplugin-nonfree before removing it, but when I try and install it it says it's trying to remove it. HELP!
[14:22] <IdleOne> Izinucs: actually I take the bus right now. my car is dead
[14:22] <mootsoo> test...first time in IRC
[14:22] <IdleOne> mootsoo: pass and welcome
[14:23] <mootsoo> thank you IdleOne
[14:23] <mootsoo> pass?
[14:23] <uhok> Anyone use irclog2html?
[14:23] <IdleOne> dlublink: to reinstall it will remove first
[14:23] <uhok> You passed mootsoo
[14:23] <IdleOne> mootsoo: you said test :)
[14:23] <jrib> uhok: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:23] <mootsoo> aan ok ok
[14:23] <mootsoo> hehe
[14:24] <Soyo>  sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[14:24] <uhok> I'm trying to get irclog2html to work, I can run the script, I'm just trying to have it work with xchat logs.
[14:24] <Soyo> 14 May 17:05:22 ntpdate[13325]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[14:24] <m3wt> Hi all. I am using 10.04 and if I experiance a power outage, any file I have opened will be nulled (file size 0 bytes). I'm assuming its a filesystem error, I'm running Ext4. Is anyone else having these issues?
[14:24] <Pici> mahershalal: I'm looking into what video cards the 'radeon' driver supports, and I'm not sure that it fully supports cards on the r600 chipset.  I'm not sure if the suggested fix is appropriate for you.
[14:24] <jrib> uhok: still not a question...
[14:24] <Axz> Good evening, is there any VPN services /software for LInux/Ubuntu
[14:24] <uhok> Wow jrib, guess you're full of yourself. :)
[14:25]  * uhok puts on dumb mode.
[14:25] <Izinucs> m3wt: nope.. not here.. but I have no power outages.
[14:25] <Murdoch5> I kinda screwed up on my ubuntu server install and gave my self a useless french keyboard layout, how on earth do i get it into useable US
[14:25] <uhok> DUH, how do I make irclog2html work with XCHAT?
[14:25] <Murdoch5> I only have the command line
[14:25] <n3b> can anybody help me? got wifi issues... I´m using a eeepc 1000H (the old one) and ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix
[14:25] <jrib> ...
[14:25] <Murdoch5> n3b, wifi is the one thing no Linux distro does well lol
[14:25] <Murdoch5> but whats the problem?
[14:25] <n3b> i´m a total noob...
[14:26] <n3b> no connection
[14:26] <Murdoch5> alright
[14:26] <ubuntu> blum
[14:26] <Murdoch5> do you know if the wifi hardware got picked up?
[14:26] <n3b> and it ask´s for the wpa2 pw every min
[14:26] <Murdoch5> okay
[14:26] <Murdoch5> thats good
[14:26] <Murdoch5> so we know the interface got picked up
[14:26] <n3b> k
[14:27] <mootsoo> i have some question: in my ubuntu sun-java6-doc file is not installing. occurs some error. i've searched and tried to fix, but it's still not working
[14:27] <Murdoch5> do you have the wireless settings wrong?
[14:27] <tzanger> hmm
[14:27] <n3b> dont think so
[14:27] <mootsoo> some one has any idea about that?
[14:27] <tzanger> my 1yo has managed to activate some kind of superzoom on my system.
[14:27] <Gosho> ./ j linuxhelper
[14:27] <tzanger> the montiro is still at its correct resolution so it's not the normal x11 mode switch
[14:27] <Izinucs> n3b: that's network-manager.. if you can and want to.. try installing Wicd for your wireless control.. it will uninstall network-manager.
[14:27] <Gosho> ./ join linuxhelper
[14:27] <n3b> i tried it also with disabled wpa2,...
[14:27] <tzanger> I imagine there's a hotkey to enable/disable it because he was playing with the keyboard when he did it
[14:28] <tzanger> does anyone know how to deactivate it?
[14:28] <n3b> ok
[14:28] <tzanger> it's amusing but I'm trying to work :-)
[14:28] <Soyo> lol aparently ntpdate must use -u... yet it is still shipped without that as default
[14:28] <Gosho> ./ join linuxhelper
[14:28] <Yoe> in hardy, are the files in /etc/rcS.d actually being executd at boot?
[14:28] <Pici> Gosho: /join #channel
[14:28] <Yoe> executed, even
[14:28] <ZykoticK9> Beside ubuntu-desktop what is the name of any other META packages that get installed by default on Ubuntu (I'm looking if vim-tiny is installed by default in Lucid, any by what package)
[14:28] <oal> Where can I find a log of notification popups?
[14:28] <Vigo> Murdoch5: 10.04 Server?
[14:29] <llutz> ZykoticK9: aptitude why vim-iny
[14:29] <llutz> ZykoticK9: aptitude why vim-tiny
[14:29] <IdleOne> oal: /var/log maybe
[14:29] <Soyo> !install
[14:29] <Pici> ZykoticK9: its part of the minimal task
[14:29] <ZykoticK9> llutz, Pici thanks!
[14:29] <a2p> jjghhhgyfhg
[14:29] <n3b> i read a lot of driver issues, caused by double installed drivers!?
[14:29] <a2p> ttrgfrtuy
[14:29] <Pici> a2p: Please stop that.
[14:29] <IdleOne> a2p: please stop that
[14:30] <Gosho> ./ join #ubuntu-USA
[14:30] <a2p> dffsfs
[14:30] <bogeyd6> Im upgrading to 10.04 LTS Desktop and I am given a prompt to Configuring grub-pc. I have a checkbox for continue without installing or I can just press forward. Pressing forward does nothing.
[14:30] <IdleOne> Gosho: type /join #ubuntu-us
[14:31] <oal> IdleOne, can't find anything
[14:33] <W3ird_N3rd> does nautilus have a logfile somewhere of what it did?
[14:33] <Vigo> bogeyd6: Here:> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading and there are more!
[14:33] <dlublink> ok, so after a badly botched upgrade to 10.04 ( from 8.04 ), I manually removed the problematic package from /var/lig/dpkg/status. After I did "apt-get upgrade", it says there are no packages to upgrade. So is it a bug, or was the installer actually at the end ?
[14:33] <W3ird_N3rd> I just removed 2 files but one of them is still there, so nautilus must have figured it would be better to remove another file, I want to know which one
[14:34] <tzanger> anyone? how to disable the accessibility zoom in ubuntu?
[14:34] <RCSilva> Bom dia pessoal
[14:34] <Izinucs> dlublink: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if it picks up any additional packages.
[14:34] <RCSilva> estou precisando de ajuda
[14:35] <dlublink> Izinucs, did that too, no packages.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:35] <onetinsoldier> !es | RCSilva
[14:35] <Pici> !br | RCSilva
[14:35] <RCSilva> em portugues
[14:35] <fuad> hi all..
[14:35] <RCSilva> ???
[14:35] <fuad> wanna ask something
[14:35] <RCSilva> obrigado
[14:35] <htsd> hi
[14:35] <Vigo> tzanger: That should be in the Assistive Technologies widget.
[14:36] <fuad> i installed lucid in my PC
[14:36] <htsd> how can i add openoffice writer to desktop via shell command?
[14:36] <fuad> but no xorg.conf on /etc/X11
[14:36] <Izinucs> dlublink: sounds like you're good then.. I upgraded one system and had issues with the processor usage being stuck at 50+% and a memory leak in polkitd.. found out I needed to delete .pulseaudio to fix stuff.. weird.. each system has its quirks.
[14:36] <fuad> so i cannot configure my xorg.conf
[14:36] <fuad> any idea??
[14:36] <tzanger> Vigo: hard to read it when I'm stuck in zoom mode
[14:36] <jrib> fuad: you can create one if you want, but why do you think you need to?
[14:36] <W3ird_N3rd> tzanger: http://newtoubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/zoom-in/ "First, make sure it is enabled by going to System> Preferences> Appearance> Visual Effects. Select Preferences and then enable Enhanced Zoom Desktop under the Accessibility category."
[14:37] <BluesKaj> fuad, which graphics card?
[14:37] <tzanger> I did manage to create a keyboard shortcut for zoom but that doesn't seem to be it
[14:37] <htsd> how can i add openoffice writer to desktop via shell command?
[14:37] <dlublink> Izinucs, ok. So I will assume everything is fine, at any rate, my mo-in-law only lives like 3 km away, so if worse comes to worse, I'll go see her
[14:37] <helo> highest fresh lucid install uptime?
[14:37] <jrib> !apt | htsd
[14:37] <Vigo> tzanger: System>Preferences>Assistive Technologies. link yo follow....
[14:38] <Vigo> *to
[14:38] <IdleOne> !polls | helo
[14:38] <Izinucs> dlublink: setup ssh so you can do things remotely
[14:38] <tzanger> W3ird_N3rd: visual effects doesn't have a preferences, just 3 options, none, normal, extra
[14:38] <helo> i choose your mom based on the features i require
[14:38] <noecc> Murdoch5: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[14:38] <IdleOne> !guidelines > helo
[14:39] <iflema> tzanger if I hold the winblos key and scroll the mouse my whole screen zooms.... is you zoom entire screen or small rectangle?
[14:39] <dlublink> hmm, when I launch firefox it says "Firefox can not find the file at jar:///usr/share/mozilla/extensions/{crazy code}/ubufox@ubuntu.com/chrome/ubufox.jar!/content/startpage.html
[14:39] <htsd> ubottu: it is installed
[14:39] <htsd> jrib: it is installed
[14:39] <jrib> htsd: ubottu is a bot.  What do you mean "it is installed"?  What is installed?
[14:39] <tzanger> iflema: that's what it was!
[14:39] <htsd> jrib: i have open offic installed, yet
[14:39] <tzanger> iflema: thank you thank you thank you
[14:39] <tzanger> I had no idea that was even possible
[14:39] <Izinucs> dlublink: change your home page.. it's looking for the default
[14:39] <jrib> htsd: ok, well isn't that what you wanted?
[14:40]  * helo offers his condolences for the utter death of fun
[14:40] <tzanger> I also have no idea how the hell he managed to do that ;-)
[14:40] <Vigo> tzanger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1172386
[14:40] <htsd> jrib: and its work. How can i create a link on desktop witch start OOW
[14:40] <dlublink> Izinucs, must be left over from 8.04lts
[14:40] <iflema> tzanger what you where scrolling and ya little one wacked the winblows key
[14:40] <jrib> htsd: oh, you want a launcher on the desktop as opposed to one in the menu?
[14:40] <pixie79> when writing debconf files is there a way to automatically remove all template questions and answers from the db for a package without having to specify each one?
[14:40] <Vigo> iflema: Good call, Thank you.
[14:41] <iflema> tzanger happens all the time ;)
[14:41] <tzanger> iflema: perhaps, I was desperately trying to minimize the windows before he hit something critical :-)
[14:41] <jrib> pixie79: try #ubuntu-motu probably
[14:41] <pixie79> jrb ok thanks
[14:41] <htsd> jrib: yes. i can drag and drop it to desktop from programms -> openoffice writer. but i would make it with the shell
[14:41] <tzanger> thank you again, also Vigo  and W3ird_N3rd, I appreciate you taking the time to try to help me
[14:42] <llutz> htsd: oowriter file.odt
[14:42] <jrib> htsd: copy the .desktop file to your Desktop I suppose, or create one from scratch with your favorite text editor.  Or, just create a symlink to whatever the openoffice writer binary is
[14:42] <Vigo> tzanger: You are most welcomed, thank me by helping others and posting fixes on the Forums.
[14:44] <camcal> hi everyone, i have Ubuntu Server 9.04 and i'm using Firestarter to share the internet connection, the problem is that it seems to be that somehow the internet connection is being splitted and i can't get the full speed, anyone knows how can solve this ?
[14:45] <seatownrocks> i used DeVeDe to make an iso from an mp4 source. when i went to burn the iso it asked me if i wanted to burn the iso or its contents i chose burn the iso which put the iso on my dvd as a data file but now i dont get the option to burn the contents... anyone know how to burn the iso so that it works in a stand alone dvd player?
[14:45] <mickster04> camcal: its sharing te connection, not acting as a switch and i dont think that software can do that...
[14:47] <seatownrocks> what program do you guys use to burn .iso files to dvd?
[14:48] <camcal> mickster04: i don't know why but my server has a public ip and as far as i know, it has a dedicated connection of 900 KB/s, but when i start a download i can't get more than 70KB/s
[14:48] <llutz> seatownrocks: growisofs
[14:48] <hmw> how do i check out, how fast my RAM is being clocked currently?
[14:48] <IdleOne> !burn | seatownrocks
[14:48] <Vigo> seatownrocks: I prefer K3B, but that is just a personal preference.
[14:48] <jrib> seatownrocks: I like wodim...
[14:48] <seatownrocks> !burn
[14:48] <markl> is it possible in compiz to give each workspace a name - and have this name show up in the window selector that pops up when you use the keyboard shortcuts?
[14:49] <Stranger> If I connect multiple device in one go...then all of them get recognized by udev parallely. Is there any way to make the recognization as serially ?
[14:49] <seatownrocks> thx
[14:49] <linux_student> please help ubuntu 9.10  blackscreen tty1 /tty6
[14:50] <IdleOne> markl: using the workspace naming plugin. #compiz for more help
[14:50] <hmw> how do i check out, how fast my RAM is being clocked currently?
[14:50] <seatownrocks> yea, thats how i tried burning the first time...
[14:50] <seatownrocks> it asked me if i wanted to burn the contents or as a file
[14:51] <Kamaris> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to resolve audio issue where "sudo aplay" outputs audio but "aplay" does not? also, inside my gnome session, i don't actually see any sound cards listed, but again, in the same session 'sudo aplay' works
[14:51] <seatownrocks> i didn't know any better so i had it burn as a file and to remember that decision
[14:51] <mickster04> camcal: no idea
[14:51] <Bombo> anyone please tell me what to typt into the 'Service:' field or where i can find documentation to this application?
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> anybody know what this means? it's at the top of my rsyslog file. i know what HUP'd means, that's fine. but the "type 'lightweight'" part, huh? --> rsyslogd was HUPed, type 'lightweight'.
[14:51] <seatownrocks> but now i need to the other option and dont know how to get it back?
[14:51] <Bombo> anyone please tell me what to typt into the 'Service:' field or where i can find documentation to this application? this is the screenshot: http://www.imagebam.com/image/ee851f79963937
[14:51] <seatownrocks> anyone know how to burn the iso contents and not as a file?
[14:52] <Izinucs> seatownrocks: in windows or linux?
[14:52] <seatownrocks> ubuntu
[14:52] <llutz> seatownrocks: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso
[14:53] <Anomie21> whats the best ubuntu antivirus
[14:53] <jrib> Anomie21: you don't need one
[14:53] <mickster04> !AV
[14:53] <Izinucs> seatownrocks: what llutz says is good for cli burning .. if you want to do it with the gui then use brassero or k3b
[14:53] <Soyo> invasion of bots
[14:53] <mickster04> jrib: surely if you wree downloading files and passing them on you should do, you don't wanna spread viruss
[14:54] <seatownrocks> trying to use brasero but when it burns the .iso it burns it as a data file on the disc so when you open the disc u see moviename.iso
[14:54] <folex> hello, after run PulseAudio Device Chooser i have infinite noise when nothin is played, lsod /dev/snd/* is empty, it is not PulseAudio trouble, I hear noise after gdm start, and can`t disable it, volume level changing have no effect
[14:54] <folex> lsof*
[14:55] <Vigo> !multimedia | seantownrocks
[14:56] <Vigo> seantownrocks: As I said, K3B seems to have that covered in a nice GUI interface. But there are many many ways of doing it.
[14:56] <Izinucs> seatownrocks: on the opening screen of brasero the bottom option is burn image.. that's what you want ot use.. and iso is an "image" of a dick
[14:56] <Izinucs> *disk
[14:57] <seatownrocks> ok, thx vigo... i'll install k3b and see if that works
[14:57] <Talu> Does anyone know how to make my 3G connection more stable? I currently have 10.04.
[14:58] <amikrop> Hello, how can I run JVM source?
[14:58] <amikrop> What do I need to install?
[14:58] <uLinux> ! ppa
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> amikrop:  jvm source? You mean compile java code?
[14:58] <folex> somebody know how to solve my trouble?
[14:59] <Talu> Does anyone know how to make my 3G connection more stable? I currently have 10.04.
[14:59] <amikrop> Dr_Willis: Actually, the IJVM microcode.
[14:59] <clone4ubuntu> i asked question in ubuntu launchpad but somebody back is asking me solution rather than providing a solution
[14:59] <uLinux> So... if I don't add PPAs my application will be outdated right..?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> amikrop:  no idea then.
[14:59] <uLinux> *don't add
[14:59] <mickster04> !patience | folex
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> clone4ubuntu:  so?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> clone4ubuntu:  perhaps someone will know an answer eventually.
[14:59] <folex> hello, after run PulseAudio Device Chooser i have infinite noise when nothin is played, lsod /dev/snd/* is empty, it is not PulseAudio trouble, I hear noise after gdm start, and can`t disable it, volume level changing have no effect
[15:00] <uLinux> if I don't add PPAs the applications will be outdated right?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> clone4ubuntu:  check the forums  and there may allredy be a similer problem with an answer
[15:00] <clone4ubuntu> i want them to solve the issue on there own Dr_Willis
[15:00] <folex> ubottu: ok. thx
[15:00] <younas> Hey all
[15:00] <onetinsoldier> hi
[15:00] <younas> kind of proxy services
[15:00] <younas> can one use to access blocked wesites
[15:00] <younas> in ubuntu
[15:00] <Oer> !resetpanels
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> younas:  you could always try TOR, or some of  the free VPN services.
[15:01] <uLinux> if I don't add PPAs the applications will be outdated right?
[15:01] <htsd> on witch file i can find my networkname? /etc/hostname isnt it. it must be a file with the content    # hostnamee = blubb
[15:01] <uLinux> until an ubuntu upgrade?
[15:01] <htsd> and i must only delet the #
[15:01] <onetinsoldier> uLinux: depends on how you look at it
[15:02] <younas> dr_willis could you provide me a list of the free vpn services. Ive used hotspot sheild in windows. i dont know if it works with linux or if there are similar apps which work like it
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> younas:  no i cant. Ive only used one.. and that was some months back
[15:02] <uLinux> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu lucid main
[15:02] <uLinux> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu lucid main
[15:02] <younas> ok i will try TOR and see how that goes
[15:03] <uLinux> can I add those ?
[15:03] <younas> theyve banned facebook in my country
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> younas:  i do recall some used their own vpn client. and others could use the network manager vpn config tool
[15:03] <Izinucs> younas: what country
[15:03] <uLinux> younas you can also use web proxies there are a lot...
[15:03] <Vigo> How do I make a persistent or actual Install onto a USB? A personal one that I can also use to show others about Ubuntu and still maintain my /home and settings?
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> They must know that Farmville is Evil!
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  the usb-disk-creator tool in the admin menu can let you do that eaially
[15:04] <younas> hahaha well not really it was a religious issue
[15:04]  * Izinucs cringes at the Farmville reference..
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  the pendrivelinux websote also has some tools to allow it.
[15:04] <Vigo> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  you can also do a 'full/normal' install to a flash drive if you wanted to.
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  you just have to watch out and tell the installer on step 7 to install the bootloader to the proper device
[15:05] <iflema> Vigo point the installer to the thumbdrive and grub aswell
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  but a full install can have some issues if moved around to other machines. depending on what you do with it
[15:05] <Vigo> Dr_Willis: That is exactly what I want, and Thank you iflema.
[15:06] <uLinux> can I add PPA from here http://ubuntu-tweak.com/source/mozillateam-firefox-stable/
[15:06] <ikonia> uLinux: I'ad advise you not to
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  a usb-disk-creater install with a persistant save file. is a little more flexiable.
[15:06] <Vigo> Dr_Willis: Is mainly for just demonstration purposes.
[15:06] <junky[ins4n3]> any1 knows how to configure vpn using 9.10 ubuntu
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> junky[ins4n3]:  the network manager tool has vpn settings I thought.
[15:06] <uLinux> ikonia arent those PPA made my mozilla?
[15:06] <junky[ins4n3]> let me check
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> junky[ins4n3]:  edit connections -> vpn tab.
[15:06] <iflema> Vigo livecds blowem away...... too easy......
[15:07] <ikonia> uLinux: they are hosted in an unofficial repo - how do you know what they are done by
[15:07] <uLinux> hmm
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  theres proberly a dozen different firefox ppa's out there for different variants/reasons.
[15:08] <junky[ins4n3]> Dr_Willis: thanx a lot
[15:08] <uLinux> I have 2 "installed (local or obsolete)" clamtk and libdvdcss2
[15:08] <uLinux> how can I update this
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  pendrive linux seems to have a new tool -> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[15:09] <Vigo> iflema: LiveCD onto USB? I also want to have my email and stuff, pictures of my boat and whatnot.
[15:09] <falconic> Hey guys... I am coming from snow leopard world.. and really love installing packages from source and putting them into a custom location instead of "sudo"ing and putting into system folders
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  you can have a live cd installed to a usb + a persistant home that saves your data. Yes.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  dare we ask 'why' you love that?
[15:09] <junky[ins4n3]> 1 more query : if i run apt-get install --no-download it asks me to download even if there are packages in /var/cache/apt/archives...... how do i solve it
[15:09] <falconic> is there a package system like that for linux/ubuntu... something like mac ports or
[15:10] <falconic> homebrew.
[15:10] <jrib> falconic: let APT worry about where stuff goes, just tell it what you want
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  if compiling from source. you are basically bypassing the package system. Unless you use the tools to wrap it into a deb.
[15:10] <falconic> jrib: I am actually working on a system such that I want to keep the root partition foot print as minimal as possible
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  if using source you would proberly want to make things install to /opt/ or /usr/local/
[15:10] <jrib> falconic: why?
[15:10] <falconic> and then install to  a custom partition/dorectory
[15:10] <jungli> hey how can i copy my system files to virtual system :P
[15:11] <ceaerrepe> join #Debian-es
[15:11] <Vigo> Dr_Willis: I still use the USB creator in, oh wait, I do not see that...hrmmm
[15:11] <falconic> jrib: Like I told u.. 1) Dont want to mess the system libaries etc.... 2) I want to install software to a second partition without putting anything on the root partition
[15:11] <iflema> as you where Vigo.... have fun....... =)
[15:11] <onetinsoldier> ceaerrepe: try /join #debian-es
[15:12] <falconic> jrib, Dr_Willis: Is there anything on ubuntu which can help me do that ?
[15:12] <jrib> falconic: APT doesn't "mess the system libraries"
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> Vigo:  system -> admin -> startupdisk creator
[15:12] <Vigo> iflema : Thank you
[15:12] <jungli> hey how can i copy my system files to virtual system :P
[15:12] <falconic> jrib: but it cant install to a custom path..
[15:12] <Vigo> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  you can put /opt/ on a 2nd partition or drive or nfs server or whever you wanted.
[15:12] <jrib> falconic: this is the wrong philosophy, you should just use APT to install from trusted sources
[15:12] <bullgard> [SeaMonkey 2.04] Ubuntu 10.04 does not provide 'man seamonkey'. Where can I find a current manpage for it?
[15:13] <falconic> Dr_Willis: How can I tell apt to install everything to opt folder in the first place..
[15:13] <jrib> falconic: you can't
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  via apt. not very easially.. via source.. very easially.
[15:13] <arcnewuss> sudo apt-get install esound and the sound now works perfectly, analog, ac3 and dts, thanks a bunch
[15:13] <Vigo> bullgard: Those docs are at MozDev and the SeaMonkey site.
[15:13] <uLinux> isn't there OFFICIAL ppas?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> part of apt's feature is the ability to upgrade as needed.
[15:13] <falconic> Dr_Willis: That is what I am asking :)
[15:13] <olegign> how can i run blizzard games on ubuntu
[15:13] <jrib> falconic: you'll just be making linux harder to use
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  you just said you wanted to use source.. you could recompile from source and build debs that then install to whever you want.
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> !wine | olegign
[15:14] <jrib> falconic: (with no real benefit)
[15:14] <falconic> jrib: in my situation I see a benefit.. I only have 10 GB root partition on EC2
[15:14] <hmw> what the heck? The RAM, I just bought has lifetime guarantee. But not in Germany, they only are allowed to have 10 years guarantee!?!?
[15:14] <jrib> falconic: 10gb is plenty
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> 10gb for / is rather large actually.
[15:15] <falconic> now I want to install all the things on the new /opt folder which is mounted on a secondary drive.
[15:15] <olegign> nice work on ubuntu its looks way batter then microsoft
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> falconic:  you do realize you can move some dirs from / to  a second drive/partition and the system will still work?
[15:15] <falconic> jrib: I have seen the benefits of this on my snow leopard systemn.. if I break somehting.. I just need to delete that folder and everything is back to normal.
[15:15] <falconic> yes
[15:16] <junky[ins4n3]> please could anyone answer this?
[15:16] <falconic> but then is there a way I can tell a deb to be installed in a particular directory
[15:16] <junky[ins4n3]> if i run apt-get install --no-download it asks me to download even if there are packages in /var/cache/apt/archives...... how do i solve it
[15:16] <falconic> I think that shd do..
[15:16] <bullgard> Vigo: Do you mean this site: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/? There is none.
[15:16] <jrib> falconic: apt makes it easy to remove packages, if you ever want to remove one for some reason
[15:17] <bullgard> Vigo: What do you mean by "MozDev" site?
[15:17] <falconic> jrib: I thought linux people like to compile things from source and use them.. this is very otherwise :P
[15:18] <llutz> falconic: those are called "gentoo-users"
[15:18] <AdvoWork> is there an alternative to doing: sudo ufw disable? as it auto enables on reboot
[15:18] <jrib> falconic: no, you shouldn't compile things from source and use them.  You should use a package manager
[15:18] <folex> hello, after run PulseAudio Device Chooser i have infinite noise when nothin is played, lsod /dev/snd/* is empty, it is not PulseAudio trouble, I hear noise after gdm start, and can`t disable it, volume level changing have no effect
[15:18] <jrib> even gentoo users use a package manager
[15:18] <onetinsoldier> junky[ins4n3]: i don't know what to make of that really, so keep asking! how many packages are you wanting it to install from /var/cache/apt/archives?
[15:18] <falconic> jrib: I am asking a simple question.. can I make a package manager to install to a specific folder..
[15:18] <falconic> if u can help .. please tell..
[15:18] <jrib> falconic: I already, said "no, you can't"
[15:19] <falconic> "no, you can't" coming from linux guy is very unexpected to say the least
[15:19] <falconic> have u heard of GNU stow ?
[15:19] <junky[ins4n3]> onetinsoldier: say 18
[15:19] <jrib> falconic: fine.  "You can, but not easily"
[15:20] <onetinsoldier> junky[ins4n3]: roger. you can install them manually on the command line with 'dpkg' instead of apt-get if you want
[15:20] <ryoohki> is this the right channel to ask a apt-get question?  in the red hat world, the are software groups so you can just "yum grouplist ; yum groupinstall Emacs" ; i know apt-get has this too, so "apt-get install kde" ; how do i list these software groups?
[15:20] <junky[ins4n3]> onetinsoldier: could u give me d syntax? no downloads rite?
[15:20] <jrib> falconic: it just really shouldn't be an issue.  Use APT like it's meant to until you see a problem with default behavior
[15:21] <onetinsoldier> junky[ins4n3]: for example...      dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/less-1.0-amd64.deb
[15:21] <Yum> ryoohki, what me?
[15:21] <donavan01> does anyone know of there is a program like CloneDVD for linux ... I need something to do dvd backups (yes its legal)
[15:21] <falconic> jrib: oki.. let me see if ... may be I am taking the problem in a wrong way
[15:21] <falconic> let me re-jig and see
[15:21] <Izinucs> ryoohki: man apt or man dpkg might shed some light on that
[15:21] <jrib> !dvd | donavan01
[15:21] <junky[ins4n3]> onetinsoldier: let me try
[15:21] <Yum> yes, dot't use me please for your packages
[15:21] <Yum> :)
[15:22] <Vigo> bullgard: http://www.mozdev.org/
[15:22] <Yum> don't*
[15:22] <jrib> donavan01: dvdbackup and vobcopy are two nice command line ones, but see ubottu for more
[15:22] <avg_guy> donavan01, k9copy works
[15:22] <ryoohki> Izinucs: thanks - that's what i did second, after apt-get --help
[15:23] <researcher1> what could be done to open this site with its original fonts http://irrigation.maharashtra.gov.in/marathi/dcmNew/index.php?departmentCode=0900?
[15:23] <ryoohki> Izinucs: i didn't see anything but it wouldn't be the first time something was there, right in front of me
[15:23] <donavan01> Thanks a lot guys I will check this stuff out
[15:23] <uLinux> I have 6 package keys added how can I check if they are safe?
[15:24] <Vigo> bulgard: and here> http://www.mozilla.org/
[15:24] <AdvoWork> i just went onto adobes website, it froze, and then i tried to force the browser to close, just by pressing X, and then my pc black screened as if the gui had gone, then services stopped then it rebooted. its done this before, but normally rather than rebotting it goes back to the login screen. any ideas please?
[15:24] <olegign> ubuntu wont support my 128GB usb flash drive
[15:24] <colex> hello, I'm needing help with tightvncserver in lubuntu, how could xstartup should look to show my desktop?, I think it's openning a new session, could anyone help?
[15:24] <onetinsoldier> falconic: just to let you know, i might not do a lot of it or whatever, but i like compiling from source.  *note*: i recommend you use the 'checkinstall' package to install compiled source(makes a .deb package for you)
[15:24] <researcher1> this site need Marathi fonts to be installed http://irrigation.maharashtra.gov.in/marathi/dcmNew/index.php?departmentCode=0900. How do I do it in firefox/ ubuntu?
[15:25] <Pici> uLinux: What do you mean by safe?
[15:25] <uLinux> Pici i want to find out which key belong to
[15:25] <falconic> onetinsoldier: Thanks will have a look at it !
[15:25] <Pici> uLinux: Can you rephrase that?
[15:26] <Vigo> AdvoWork: Enable Restricted and some other stuff, grab that package from the Repositories.
[15:26] <onetinsoldier> falconic: you're welcome :-)
[15:26] <donavan01> avg_guy does k9copy work with dvd5 to dvd5 or does it try to always reformat?
[15:26] <TakiTam> I want help
[15:26] <uLinux> Pici in Software Sources > Authentication
[15:26] <AdvoWork> Vigo, what package?
[15:26] <TakiTam> I have not /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:26] <uLinux> Pici there is some keys
[15:26] <olegign> my 128gb usb flash drive wont work in ubuntu
[15:26] <Vigo> AdvoWork: Adobe
[15:26] <igu> ola
[15:27] <igu> olaa
[15:27] <uLinux> hi
[15:27] <TakiTam> I want change resolution
[15:27] <Vigo> !adobe | AdvoWork
[15:27] <igu> esto que es de ingleses
[15:27] <uLinux> !es | igu
[15:27] <colex> !es  | igu
[15:27] <uLinux> :P
[15:27] <Vigo> !Adobe | AdvoWork
[15:27] <Dablfox> hi guys!
[15:27] <olegign> how can i make my 128 gb usb flash drive to work in ubuntu
[15:27] <Vigo> aarrrgh
[15:28] <Pici> !doesntwork | olegign
[15:28] <falconic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[15:28] <Vigo> !flash | ArdvoWork
[15:28] <falconic> this seems helpful
[15:28] <AdvoWork> Vigo, why though? ive got flash...
[15:28] <Vigo> AdvoWork: 10?
[15:28] <Dablfox> i got a serious bug with OPENOFFICE 3.2  : it  freezes my computer @ startup :(((
[15:29] <colex> anyone having succes with tightvncserver in Lubuntu?
[15:29] <Dablfox> someone got an idea??
[15:29] <alexanderk> hello
[15:29] <alexanderk> do anyone know WEKA?
[15:29] <igu> hello
[15:29] <igu> wher is your class
[15:29] <bmeynell> how can I make it so that critical errors don't appear in my console while I'm working?
[15:30] <rampage73> ok i might have a complicated question here, i have a san built using ubuntu configured as an iscsi target and i need a way to back it up from the san itself to an external usb drive ( i do have a redundant server in this setup what i am trying to accomplish is an offsite backup)
[15:30] <uLinux> http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu  http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu is this legit
[15:30] <junky[ins4n3]> onetinsoldier: it didnt work
[15:30] <igu> aki se habla en español???
[15:30] <rampage73> anyone have an idea how to accomplish this task efficiently
[15:30] <alexanderk> i need some help with WEKA
[15:30] <junky[ins4n3]> onetinsoldier: it actually works similar to opening debpackage isntaller
[15:30] <Pici> alexanderk: What is WEKA?
[15:30] <igu> kkk hablas español
[15:31] <igu> kien es wekaa
[15:31] <Pici> !es | igu
[15:31] <colex> igu: no !, no se habla vete a #ubuntu-es
[15:31] <IdleOne> uLinux: Mumble in 10.04 is the same as the slicer PPA. for flash install flashplugin-installer the third I don't know
[15:31] <alexanderk> http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/ml/weka/
[15:31] <igu> wher is yor nameee
[15:31] <igu> where is your classs
[15:32] <Vigo> rampage73: Duplicity or many many other packages should be able to do that.
[15:32] <alexanderk> WEKA is a Data Mining Software in Java
[15:32] <Dablfox> Someone installed OpenOffice3.2 on LucidLynx????
[15:32] <uLinux> ok IdleOne  tks
[15:32] <igu> hablas en español
[15:32] <Vigo> !backup | rampage73
[15:32] <rampage73> Vigo, thank you i wil check into it
[15:32] <alexanderk> do anyone know WEKA?
[15:32] <igu> oye hablais españoll
[15:32] <IdleOne> igu: tienes que entrar en el canal en español. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[15:33] <Izinucs> Dablfox: that's the default in Lucid
[15:33] <Pici> alexanderk: Is your question about using or installing weka?
[15:33] <igu> join*ubuntu
[15:33] <Soyo> Is user root sufficient in /etc/crontab or do I need to use sudo in the crontab file on each line?
[15:33] <alexanderk> using WEKA
[15:33] <uLinux> IdleOne the third one says Ubuntu Tweak Stable Source
[15:33] <igu> hablasi español
[15:33] <igu> k si hablais españolllllllll
[15:33] <Soyo> !es
[15:33] <colex> could anyone give me a hand with xstartup, how does it have to look like to show my present LXDE session?
[15:34] <uLinux> and the one i didnt show is Tor
[15:34] <IdleOne> uLinux: why are you so intent on using non official sources for software?
[15:34] <Dablfox> Izinucs: i do know! ;((( that's actually my trouble! i can't launch it! it freeze my comp!
[15:34] <AdvoWork> Vigo, but why would flash cause a pc to crash
[15:34] <AdvoWork> its not windows..
[15:34] <Dablfox> who have an idea why OpenOffice freezes a machine?
[15:34] <uLinux> IdleOne im not some added automatically or ot
[15:34] <uLinux> not
[15:35] <Izinucs> Dablfox: 10.04 *does* have 3.2 installed.. I have no idea why your machine would freeze when starting it.
[15:35] <IdleOne> uLinux: none of the 3 PPA's you listed can add them self to your sources.list
[15:35] <bullgard> Vigo: Thank you.
[15:35] <uLinux> IdleOne I know I added Tor PPA manually the rest i dont
[15:35] <Vigo> colex: Maybe here> http://blog.lxde.org/?p=684
[15:35] <Dablfox> Izinucs: ;((((  thanx tho
[15:36] <Vigo> bullgard: you are most welcomed.
[15:36] <uLinux> IdleOne maybe when I installed them I made some terminal commands
[15:36] <markus_> Hy everybody
[15:36] <IdleOne> uLinux: now if you don't trust them or know what they are then you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove them
[15:36] <markus_> Any information when kubuntu will work again?
[15:36] <markus_> Tried Gnome the last days and I have to say that every single program is inferior :(
[15:36] <alexanderk> do anyone know WEKA?
[15:36] <TakiTam> Hi
[15:36] <TakiTam>  I want change resolution
[15:36] <TakiTam>  I have not /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[15:36] <TakiTam>  I can use only terminal
[15:36] <FloodBot4> TakiTam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:37] <iceroot> markus_: kde is not working?
[15:37] <TakiTam> y
[15:37] <alexanderk> do anyone know WEKA?
[15:37] <iceroot> !anyone | alexanderk
[15:37] <k0d3g3ar> is there a log file for smb?  All of a sudden my Ubuntu 9.10 machine can't connect to smb and I'm trying to debug why
[15:37] <uLinux> IdleOne I don't know what to do with those entries .. maybe leave only Tor..
 No it isn't. The plasmoid are jumping aroung and nothing works
[15:38] <alexanderk> #ubuntu-de
[15:38] <Vigo> AdvoWork: I have no idea, that is why I make backups of clean installs before I add repos.packages and whatnot to them, it could just be a simple Browser error, or it could be that the package is not installed correctly from source.
[15:38] <LjL> Soyo: don't use sudo.
[15:38] <markus_> But its not kde's fault. its ubuntus!
[15:38] <colex> Vigo: thanks but I'm not using Corky, actually tighvnc is working however it's starting anew session, I want to show my actual session, not to start a new one.
[15:38] <ProfessorWC> Hey guys, new to Ubuntu, and have been tasked with creating a script to install either 32 or 64 but ubuntu with specified versions of a few applications (gcc, java, postgresql, and a couple others)..can anyone point me in the right direction?
[15:39] <IdleOne> uLinux: ok you can add ## in front of those entries to disable them. make sure to save the file and then run sudo apt-get update  you can leave the TOR one if you want it.
[15:39] <jrib> !remaster | ProfessorWC
[15:39] <jrib> ProfessorWC: is that what you want?
[15:39] <uLinux> IdleOne im using the GUI :P
[15:39] <onetinsoldier> k0d3g3ar: try --> /var/log/samba/log.smbd  and  /var/log/samba/log.nmbd
[15:39] <Soyo> LjL | Is /etc/init.d/cron restart a legit way to get the /etc/crontab file to run again?
[15:40] <uLinux> then there is the keys
[15:40] <IdleOne> uLinux: in that case remove those entries and you wont have to worry about them
[15:40] <ProfessorWC> We are setting up a ubuntu server here, so my understanding is they want to be doing all of this over the network.
[15:40] <jonny330> how do i add an ipsec tunnel thorugh the command line?
[15:40] <k0d3g3ar> onetinsoldier, thanks.  I just found it.  The problem appears to be an error 'open_socket_in:  Address already in use'.  Ever seen that?
[15:40] <Vigo> colex: Ok, I run Lubuntu on a lappy here, the LXDE sight is a great resource.
[15:40] <alexanderk> WEKA ist Data Mining Software in Java
[15:40] <LjL> Soyo: i've never done that, but if you simply mean make it re-read /etc/crontab, there is no need to do that manually
[15:40] <onetinsoldier> k0d3g3ar: no. don't really know anything about samba. i just have it installed and thought i'd look up where the log files were for you
[15:41] <Soyo> LjL | thanks
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[15:41] <IdleOne> uLinux: Simple rule to follow. There are a tone of sites out there that make things look shiny and pretty and tell you that their way is easier. Stick with the official repos,forums and wiki pages.
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  it pays to learn the funamentals first :)
[15:42] <colex> Vigo: BTW, I was looking for a screen broadcast app, I've tried vlc but it's too heavy for my resources, so I'm testing tighvncserver
[15:43] <IdleOne> uLinux: then in a little while when you feel comfortable with the Ubuntu way you can start to experiment :)
[15:43] <ProfessorWC> jrib: thanks for the links, that might be helpful.
[15:43] <SARO> hello guys, can i please speak to the release manager?
[15:43] <SARO> I am thoroughly unsatisfied
[15:43] <uLinux> hmok
[15:43] <JoeSA> hi
[15:43] <jonny330> does anyone know about ipsec?
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> SARO: try the ubuntu forums perhaps.
[15:43] <xomp> how to ensure MySQL is completely removed from my ubuntu?
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  if you have a support question. this is the place for that.
[15:43] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i just installed the lates ubuntu and i found that it does not support my WLAN card!!
[15:44] <uLinux> some keys I didnt add
[15:44] <SARO> Dr_Willis: how can this happen?? it worked even in older versions and my wlan card is totally standard prism
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  not my fault. Check the forums  and bug reports.
[15:44] <iceroot> markus_: but i dont think its a kubuntu-desktop bug, but more a bug of your system/config
[15:44] <uLinux> can I remove all those keys
[15:44] <SARO> NO I NEED HELP
[15:44] <mr_pinc> hey guys,  if i download the current version ISO can I boot that as a Live CD to just test my machine / recover files?
[15:44] <SARO> THIS SUCKS :(
[15:44] <IdleOne> SARO: calm down
[15:44] <iceroot> SARO: stop it
[15:44] <xomp> !caps | saro
[15:44] <IdleOne> !attitude
[15:44] <SARO> WHYE DOES IT sry why does it not support my card anymore????
[15:44] <SARO> ok
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  could be the drive has changed to some other  driver for your card.    There is no such thing as a 'standard' anything when it comes to wireless cards from what ive seen
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  keep ranting and most of the channel will put you on ignore.
[15:45] <JoeSA> why is ubuntu so complex when I want to use my phone as a modem over bluetooth?
[15:45] <SARO> Dr_Willis: well prism is totally common so that qualifies as pretty much standard
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  that is not correct logic.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> its all about the specific chipset of the card.
[15:45] <iceroot> SARO: internet explorer is very common but has nothing to do with a standard
[15:45] <SARO> Dr_Willis: well ... you made me say it, yes it is on windows and it works there
[15:45] <SARO> srsly why does it not support a card that once worked and is in like every second laptop
[15:46] <IdleOne> SARO: focus on getting help. give the channel info on your card and what you have done to trouble shoot
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  Stick to the facts.. #1 - what CHIPSET is the card?
[15:46] <SARO> its ridiculous and its a valid complain
[15:46] <Pici> Can we get back to support and away from this meta-conversation?
 I did a fresh install of 10.04 on my machine and in the machine of my girlsfriend. same problems on both machines
[15:46] <SARO> IdleOne: prism card
[15:46] <iceroot> markus_: same pcs?
[15:46] <iceroot> !details | SARO
[15:46] <IdleOne> SARO: I said channel :) not me directly. I don't use wireless
 2 totally different laptops
[15:46] <SARO> i installed 10.04
[15:46] <iceroot> markus_: same vga-drivers?
[15:46] <Pici> !enter
[15:47] <ryoohki> how can i find the list of software "bundles" that are apt-get installable?  in the red hat world, using yum, i can "yum grouplist" and the "yum groupinstall 'Group Name'".  i remember is once "ap-get install kde" to install the whole kde desktop.  how do i get a list of what's available?
[15:47] <k-rad> i have trouble making a usb live usb of ubuntu with persistance with a 8gb flash drive.  it'll format the usb stick, allow me to choose the lucid iso, but persistance option never comes up
[15:47] <SARO> and when i cannot even find the view where it shows me all wlans in reach. where is it?
[15:47] <uLinux> IdleOne here is the keys http://img203.imageshack.us/i/001kb.jpg/
[15:47] <wng-> Does anyone know why my intel 5100 card will lose connection if i get about more than 10ft from the router?
[15:47] <maco> SARO: sudo iwlist scan
[15:47] <SARO> so i just added my wlan with ssid and password but it does not do anything
[15:47] <k-rad> that would be with usb-creator
[15:47] <SARO> it just sits there with a red exclamation mark
[15:47] <iceroot> SARO: ....
[15:47] <SARO> ?
[15:47] <iceroot> !enter | SARO
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  right or left click on the network manager icon in the top panel.
[15:47] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i did that
[15:47] <xomp> how to ensure MySQL is completely removed from my ubuntu?
 No clue. Just can say I were running 8.04 wirthout any problems
[15:48] <iceroot> markus_: yes, 8.04 is running kde3, correct?
[15:48] <maco> ryoohki: there are meta-packages which pull in  lots of stuff (example: ubuntu-desktop) and also "tasks" which i think are a bit closer to what you mean. for those, run "sudo tasksel" and itll give you a menu of them
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  you can be a bit more verbose in your replies..    I answerd your question. thats where mine are at.. so what is the actual problem then?
[15:48] <uLinux> I click restore defaults and nothing happens
[15:48] <iceroot> xomp: dpkg -l mysql-server
[15:48] <Vigo> colex: VLC looks like a lightweight. Still looking...
[15:48] <SARO> hey guys and also why did they put the "close/minimize/maximize window" buttons TO THE LEFT??
[15:48] <maco> ryoohki: metapackages are just packages with nothing in them that have a bunch of dependencies
[15:48] <SARO> i am used to having them on the right as like everybody else on every other OS is
[15:48] <iceroot> !controls | SARO
[15:48] <SARO> how can i change it back?
[15:49] <ryoohki> maco: how do i list the meta packages?
[15:49] <SARO> ok thanks
[15:49] <maco> SARO: because in the ubuntu (but not kubuntu) world, mark's sense of taste rules the design side
[15:49] <SARO> dont get why they do such a weird thing
[15:49] <ryoohki> maco: thanks, btw
[15:49] <IdleOne> uLinux: the first two are Ubuntu keys ( keep them ) then you got Tor ( keep that also if you are using tor ) the last 3 are the keys for the PPA's if you have removed those ppa's from your sources then you can delete them
[15:49] <uLinux> tks!
[15:49] <xomp> iceroot, thanks
[15:49] <TheGrammarFreak> I don't get why Ubuntu changes the UI every 6 months
[15:49] <amartinenco> s
[15:49] <Yum> ryoohki, please, leaveme
[15:49] <uLinux> !ui
[15:49] <Yum> use apt-get
[15:49] <uLinux> oops sorry
[15:50] <SARO> yeah TheGrammarFreak totally agree
[15:50] <SARO> i mean putting controls somewhere else is pretty bold
[15:50] <uLinux> oh user interface
[15:50] <IdleOne> TheGrammarFreak: it's fun. Please stick to support related questions :)
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Just wait for the next release..
[15:50] <Pici> ryoohki: look at tasksel
[15:50] <maco> ryoohki: theyre just like any other package, so there's no way to see *just* them except maybe to get lucky that they all have a certain search term in their description. tasks are probably your best choice if you want a way to just list that
[15:50] <amartinenco> I have a problem, my vm3.2.0 supports usb but when ever i run my win2003 virtual machine the usb option is grayed out. What can i do?
[15:50] <maco> TheGrammarFreak: because gnome has a new release every 6 months ?
[15:51] <Pici> ryoohki: Actually, thats not entirely correct, sorry. meta-packages are different from tasks, but there are some overlap.
[15:51] <ryoohki> Pici & maco: thanks
[15:51] <SARO> ok where is the "list all wlans in reach" view?
[15:51] <TheGrammarFreak> The next release will be weird. I don't like gnome-shell much
[15:51] <maco> SARO: sudo iwlist scan
[15:51] <maco> TheGrammarFreak: 10.10 wont have it
[15:51] <R_001> Hello, I want to use minimam ram, and CPU to make netbeans run faster, I don't care if it has a low graphical user interface, can any one help me with this, I use ubuntu 10
[15:51] <maco> TheGrammarFreak: because gnome is too far behind schedule
[15:51] <SARO> maco: wtf no i want it as a GUI element, like everybody else does, like windows has it and even older ubuntu did
[15:52] <maco> SARO: then use network manager
[15:52] <TheGrammarFreak> maco, Cool
[15:52] <amartinenco> My vm3.2.0 supports usb but when ever i run my win2003 virtual machine the usb option is grayed out. What can i do?
[15:52] <SARO> maco: it is not there!
[15:52] <maco> SARO: or network management plasmoid if youre on kubuntu
[15:52] <uLinux> bbl
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  trouble shooting from the shell - is a good idea.
[15:52] <maco> SARO: or whatever xubuntu's thingy is called
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  if that command shows no networks.. then you have deeper issues
[15:52] <SARO> hey and another one: how can i show paths in the explorer as text strings again!?? it worked in old ubuntu with a simple click
[15:52] <SARO> now i only see the buttons!
[15:53] <maco> SARO: ctrl+l
[15:53] <R_001> too rush here
[15:53] <SARO> maco: why was the button removed to change it with the mouse??
[15:53] <R_001> anyone can help me !!?
[15:53] <SARO> how does this make any sense?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  gnome devs decided to do it.
[15:53] <maco> SARO: because gnome developers seem to think users shouldnt have options
[15:53] <Vigo> colex: Have you tried Gnome-mplayer?
[15:53] <SARO> hate it, ubuntu isnt for retards so they shouldnt remove all options
[15:54] <maco> SARO: ubuntu didnt remove it
[15:54] <SARO> also hey do you know how i could get a command line like under the status bar in every explorer window?
[15:54] <Pici> SARO: Please mind your attitude here.
[15:54] <SARO> to execute commands for this current folder
[15:54] <colex> Vigo: I don't use gnome, it's LXDE
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  stick to the support questions perhaps. complaints in #ubuntu-complaints
[15:54] <Tagith> hm, I actually like the new way of showing paths :)
[15:54] <maruen> HI all, someboy could help with crontab? I can't run any job
[15:54] <Pici> Dr_Willis: Please don't suggest channels that don't exist.
[15:54] <maco> SARO: as far as i know, nautilus doesnt support that
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  some file managers support that feature. but not the default gnome nautilus
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  :) i was going to go there. and exist.
[15:54] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i dont complain i ask how to change it. if there is no way then yeah it becomes a complaint i guess
[15:54] <colex> R_001: Lubuntu it's pretty lightweight
[15:54] <SARO> hmm too bad
[15:54] <Vigo> colex: Here> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications :> look in the Multimedia section.
[15:55] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i like that feature how can i get it for gnome?
[15:55] <xomp> is there anyway to tarball my home directory with max compression? I'm looking to reinstall but want to keep my home directory if possible so I can put it back later.
[15:55] <maco> SARO: find a file manager that has it, install it, and use it insrtead
[15:55] <amartinenco> what is the location for VM images in ubuntu ? i know that its /var/lib/libvirt/images in redhat but i dont know the debian
[15:55] <maruen> HI all, someboy could help with crontab? I can't run any job
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> SARO: short answer. You dont.  KDE's file manager has it and so does mc. and some others.
[15:55] <SARO> maco: dont you like it too?
[15:55] <R_001> colex, I want to make it  much lightweight
[15:55] <llutz> xomp: tar cjf /tmp/home.tar.bz2 $HOME
[15:55] <xomp> llutz, thank you :)
[15:56] <R_001> colex: I have only 512 + 128 ram, and I want netbeans fast
[15:56] <llutz> xomp: if you have more than one user, tar cjf /tmp/home.tar.bz2 /home
[15:56] <maruen> HI all, someboy could help with crontab? I can't run any job
[15:56] <xomp> llutz, just one user :)
[15:56] <maco> SARO: 1) i dont use gnome since i actually *like* featureful and useful software 2) i dont use file browsers because i have a shell 3) ive never seen a file browser with that feature
[15:56] <amartinenco> what is the location for VM images in ubuntu ? i know that its /var/lib/libvirt/images in redhat but i dont know the debian
[15:57] <oodavid> I'm getting a "can't unlock keyring" at startup - any tips?
[15:57] <maco> SARO: however finding a way to embed that into dolphin...that i wouldnt mind doing
[15:57] <SARO> HEY GUYS seriously please tell me why ubuntu removed the "show all wlans in reach" thing!?? it totally does not make sense! are users expected to open the terminal for that now??? why??
[15:57] <SARO> in every other OS it is there as a simple list to choose from! to click on
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  they havent. it shoes all the lans in my area here,
[15:57] <Soyo>  maruen | whats the issue? I am just learning it to
[15:57] <SARO> it really makes no sense yu have to admit
[15:57] <maco> SARO: it didnt
[15:57] <R_001> colex: any ideas ?
[15:57] <maco> SARO: your system's broken
[15:58] <SARO> maco: well no you told me i should run sudo iwlan list
[15:58] <SARO> maco: so why did you tell me if there is a GUI version too
[15:58] <maco> SARO: because you complained the gui wasnt working!
[15:58] <colex> R_001: I have 128MB and 10.04 running, at the moment 10 apps open, including this irssi and it keeps fast :)
[15:58] <maco> SARO: if the gui's not working, use the command line
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  and did you run that command ? did it show some networks? or are you going to jump to another topic every 20 sec?
[15:58] <SARO> maco: i said it is not there
[15:58] <SARO> ok
[15:58] <SARO> i am not on ubuntu right now
[15:58] <SARO> i have to note all comands and try them later
[15:58] <R_001> colex: which ubuntu do you use ?
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[15:59] <colex> Vigo: yeah, I have all those apps, but I don't find anything for screen broadcasting
[15:59] <maco> SARO: there should still be a network manager applet at the top of the screen. click it. if it doesnt show anything, run the command i gave. if that doesnt show anything, your driver's probably screwed up and congrats youve found a bug. if it does show something, congrats youve found a bug but this time in network manager
[15:59] <colex> R_001: I've told you, LUBUNTU
[15:59] <R_001> colex: and what GUI do you use ?
[16:00] <R_001> colex: and which GUI do you use ?
[16:00] <colex> R_001: LXDE from PCMan
[16:01] <SARO> maco: there is one, it shows a red exlamation mark, and when i rightclick it i added my wlan ssid and password
[16:01] <SARO> maco: and it does not work and there is nothing which shows "wlans in reach"
[16:01] <maco> SARO: start with why it has a red exclamation point. fix that, and it might be able to show all the APs
[16:01] <SARO> maco: well ok why does it have one?
[16:01] <maco> SARO: red exclamation points dont exactly mean "everything's dandy"
[16:02] <maco> SARO: *shrug*
[16:02] <R_001> colex: thanks :D LUBUTNU is what I'm looking for :D
[16:02] <SARO> so why does it not support my PRISM wlan card anymore?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  so you are now in ubuntu on some other machine?
[16:02] <SARO> in old ubuntu like version 8 it worked i remember
[16:02] <colex> R_001: np
[16:02] <SARO> Dr_Willis: on windows same machine
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  so basicaily you cant do any of the trouble shooting tips we are giving, or give any command output we may request. You are going from memory as to what you think it was showing?
[16:03] <SARO> Dr_Willis: well i note them all down
[16:03] <esay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDUjZ7TD8w
[16:03] <SARO> sudo iwlist scan
[16:03] <esay> you all need to watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDUjZ7TD8w
[16:04] <llutz> esay: stop spamming here
[16:04] <zenger> sorry for my newb question , what do you do to write to some1, just like this.. llutz>	esay: blah blah
[16:04] <maco> SARO: do that, then come back
[16:04] <zenger> were to click?? =)
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> zenger:  type a few letters of their nick and hit TAB key
[16:04] <llutz> type the nick, no cick
[16:04] <llutz> click
[16:05] <maco> SARO: we cant troubleshoot if you dont tell us what's the output of the things we ask you to run
[16:05] <colex> could anyone recommend an screen broadcasting app for Lubuntu?
[16:05] <zenger> llutz: o
[16:05] <zenger> works)
[16:05] <zenger> thx
[16:05] <esay> it wasnt spam
[16:05] <IdleOne> colex: #lubuntu
[16:05] <llutz> !ot >esay:
[16:05] <ceburacha> :)
[16:05] <SARO> maco: i have to collect some good tips before i go back to the other side, the journey is stressful so i need provisions
[16:06] <colex> IdleOne: been there, nobody answers :(
[16:06] <IdleOne> SARO: may I message you?
[16:06] <k-rad> i have trouble making a usb live usb of ubuntu with persistance with a 8gb flash drive.  it'll format the usb stick, allow me to choose the lucid iso, but persistance option never comes up  that would be with usb-creator
[16:06] <SARO> IdleOne: ok
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> colex:  one of the many reasons i have a hard time reccomending Lubuntu.
[16:06] <Soyo> If cron was having an error where would it show up? (Is there a cron error log or if not which log should I look at?)
[16:06] <maco> SARO: theres really nothing else to tell you until you tell us whether iwlist can find APs. sorry, but that's tough cookies.
[16:07] <SARO> ok
[16:07] <maco> SARO: but by the way, the "i want actual features in my file browser" thing? you sound like a KDE user.
[16:07] <llutz> Soyo: cron mails if possible and logs to /var/log/messages (syslog)
[16:07] <colex> Dr_Willis: thank you ... I guess
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> colex:  theeres proberly some people in there at some specific times.. but ive not been in there in ages. I gave up on Lubuntu.
[16:08] <SARO> maco: well yeah and it makes sense, now that they removed even the text string location thing it looks like a child computer interface
[16:08] <Soyo> oh maybe I should check my mail then :)
[16:08] <llutz> Soyo: needs  a working mta locally
[16:09] <SARO> ok i will run sudo iwlist scan
[16:09] <colex> Dr_Willis: do you know of any screen broadcasting app besides vlc?
[16:09] <Soyo> I has
[16:09] <SARO> and will fix the control placement issue
[16:09] <SARO> back later
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> colex:  ive never even heard of one.. or used one.  You mean broadcast in 'real time' ?
[16:09] <colex> Dr_Willis: yeah, for making presentations, something like that
[16:09] <ceburacha> what is the most popular irc server?
[16:10] <Pici> !offtopic | ceburacha
[16:10] <ceburacha> whoops, sorry :p
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> colex:  err.. for RECORDING desktop sessions theres different tools. but thats not the same as your use of the term 'broadcasting'
[16:10] <chang> hey guys.
[16:11] <colex> Dr_Willis: nope, I don't want to record anything, just to broadcast my desktop to everyone in a LAN
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> colex:  vnc is often used in classes to allow people to 'watch'  a teacher doing things.
[16:11] <Unno> Hello ppl ... I need a little help with a more demanding question that involves shared memory .. C .. and the function shmat that seems to fail in Ubuntu 10.04 x64..
[16:12] <dekroning> what is the main difference between the "Ubuntu Desktop" and "Ubuntu server" installation cd? the server just skips X install ?
[16:12] <jrib> dekroning: and different kernel
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> dekroning:  diffent installer also. text based on server.
[16:12] <jrib> Unno: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[16:13] <dekroning> jrib: ok... older kernel?
[16:13] <chang> both of them install X windows ,but server don't initiate the X
[16:13] <nmvictor> what was this terminal that was launched by pressing <F12>?
[16:13] <colex> colex: yep, my proffesor does, however he uses Windows, so I tried to install vnc in LXDE but no joy, then I've tried tighvnc, but every time a user connects it opens a new session instead of showing my actual desktop
[16:13] <llutz> nmvictor: guake, yakuake
[16:13] <jrib> dekroning: no, kernel is optimized for the server (I don't know what that exactly means offhand)
[16:13] <colex> Dr_Willis: : yep, my proffesor does, however he uses Windows, so I tried to install vnc in LXDE but no joy, then I've tried tighvnc, but every time a user connects it opens a new session instead of showing my actual desktop
[16:14] <nmvictor> llutz: thanks
[16:14] <Unno> Ok... so why does shmat(key,0,0) fail in Ubuntu 10.04 x64 ?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> colex:  you have to set up vnc properly and have their client be told to connect to an existing session
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> colex:  windows  version of vnc is very 'limited'  - vnc on linux is MUCH more fleiable
[16:15] <Lartza_> On ubuntu, do you need to edit /etc/hosts.allow
[16:15] <hideki> haaaaai
[16:15] <Lartza_> to get servers working
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> Lartza_:  odd.. ive never had to edit that file for my vnc servers.
[16:15] <colex> I'm using REALVNC in windows clients to test, but there's not such an option to connect to existing session
[16:15] <Pici> Lartza_: Only if you modified /etc/hosts.deny
[16:15] <archetype> Unno: what does that mean? what is the error? EACCESS? EINVAL? ENOMEM? Did you try to print the error message?
[16:15] <colex> Dr_Willis: I'm using REALVNC in windows clients to test, but there's not such an option to connect to existing session
[16:15] <Pici> Lartza_: Actually, thats not right. Ignore me.
[16:15] <al1x> Hello, is there any great script to avoid ddosers?
[16:15] <bullgard> "Your gdm log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information. Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?" What might be the most sensible information there? There are many gdm logs. For example I found in /var/log/gdm/:0-slave.log.3 an informationen if I need a password to log in or not. Is there there even more sensible information?
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> colex:  check their docs again. If the session want is on ip:1  then tell the clients to connect to the ip:1   that will be seesion 1
[16:16] <archetype> Unno:i would try perror for starters
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> colex:  otherwise they go to the next 'making a new session'
[16:16] <Unno> the error message spells: Success.
[16:16] <Unno> the key is valid ...
[16:16] <Unno> and there is 666 access to the mem
[16:16] <xro_> nobody answer me, is that means that there is no way to close the GUI of a debian server?
[16:16] <nmvictor> i have tweaked my xorg.conf the best way google knows how, but still i cant get compiz to start.i get the error : checking for  Xgl : not present
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  thats not a very clear question..
[16:17] <Pici> al1x: Er. Can you clarify what you are asking for?
[16:17] <al1x> Pici, i need something to install, to prevent attackers/ddosers from hitting my box
[16:17] <egsome> Is there any command line torrent client available in the repos ?
[16:17] <xro_> Dr_Willis, i'm logged and i would like to close the X server
[16:17] <erUSUL> egsome: rtorrent
[16:17] <colex> Dr_Willis: wait a second, when I start vncserver it gives me starting a session in :1 , I can connect and watch the desktop from clients however it's not my present Desktop session
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  kill the gdm service, or kill the X process...
[16:18] <erUSUL> xro_: ask in a debian channel
[16:18] <Unno> to be more specific the shmget(key,0,0) .. returns the correct id and with that id and with full permissions in mind shmat fails
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> colex:  if te clients connect to the server:1   then it should be the same desktop. vncserver has options to force clients into different modes. (watch only for example)
[16:18] <xro_> Dr_Willis, is it without risk? it is a server...
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  if you kill X.. you kill X.. all x apps are shut down.
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  on a real 'server' one normally dosent run X at all.
[16:19] <xro_> Dr_Willis, yes... but i need it for a specific app... so i could kill x without kill non X apps?
[16:19] <egsome> How can i protect my ubuntu server from flood attacks ? any good firewall available ?
[16:19] <Pici> al1x: Well, Ubuntu uses iptables, you can manage your firewall rules with iptables directly or with ufw/gufw.  Is that the sort of thing you are looking for?
[16:19] <nmvictor> i have tweaked my xorg.conf the best way google knows how, but still i cant get compiz to start.i get the error : checking for  Xgl : not present
[16:19] <Pici> !firewall | egsome
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  Non X apps  that are ran by a terminal ON the X display. will get killed off.. so you need to  not start them from X of course.
[16:20] <nmvictor> which package provides xgl?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> xro_:  ssh in, run your app..    X is not affecting it .
[16:20] <al1x> Pici can those manage to stop big attackers/ddosers from hitting my server?
[16:20] <archetype> Unno: this is too little information for anyone to decipher what is going on
[16:21] <xro_> Dr_Willis, ok
[16:21] <nmvictor> which package provides xgl?
[16:21] <erufu> jour
[16:21] <Maleko> how do you clear all the logon history in last command
[16:22] <dekroning> ubunut server is only available in 64bit version?
[16:22] <Pici> al1x: How would you stop computers that you don't have any control over from doing something?
[16:22] <colex> Dr_Willis: the actual session would be :0 ? netstat -ant doesn't show anythin about 5900
[16:22] <hideki> http://fukumoto-tech.serveblog.net/wordpress/
[16:23] <nmvictor> WHICH PACKAGE PROVIDES XGL?
[16:23] <Pici> al1x: There are packages like fail2ban that can automatically block hosts that fail ssh and other logins
[16:23] <Pici> !caps | nmvictor
[16:23] <hideki> you access
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> colex:  normally gnome shares the CURRENT desktop as :0   but you said you were using the vncserver. thats not the same as using the 'share the desktop' feature of gnome.
[16:23] <llutz> Maleko: as root ">/var/log/wtmp"
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> colex:  each time you run vncserver, you get a new desktop session.
[16:23] <Lartza_> I can't see anything when connecting to my friends vnc?
[16:23] <Lartza_> vncserver
[16:23] <Lartza_> :3
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> colex:  you are using vncclient to connect to the server? not accide4ntly running more vnsservers?
[16:24] <Lartza_> asks for password, then I get grey screen
[16:24] <Lartza_> I use tightvncviewer on arch linux, friend has xubuntu
[16:24] <nmvictor> Pici: ahaa, didnt occur to me that you could read lowercase too, which is why you quicky responded to CAPs, anyway, which package provide xgl?
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> Lartza_:  check your .vnc directory and its logs and be sure its running an actual desktop/window manager.
[16:24] <hmw> what is a easy and quick-to-start-with hexdec editor, i want to edit the MBR manually
[16:24] <Lartza_> oh right...
[16:24] <colex> Dr_Willis: I only have one port open 5901, and many can connect to that port, I executed tightvnserver just once
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> Lartza_:  also close out/kill any vnsserver sessions you accidently run. You really need 3 going?
[16:25] <hideki> http://fukumoto-tech.serveblog.net/wordpress/
[16:25] <Pici> nmvictor: XGL is not a package, it is something that may be provided by your xorg video module.
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> colex:  ok. that should show whatever desktop is running on  server:1 then
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> colex:  tightvncserver did say it was  SERVERNAME:1 for the desktop right?
[16:25] <Lartza_> Dr_Willis: He's not that computer genius :)
[16:26] <nmvictor> or rather why does fireing up compiz give the error: Checking for Xgl: not present
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> I gotta run.. Be back in 10 min.
[16:26] <nmvictor> Pici: or rather why does fireing up compiz give the error: Checking for Xgl: not present
[16:26] <Pici> hideki: Please do not advertise websites here.
[16:26] <colex> yeah, but it's not my desktop, the new session show an empty desktop , mine has many icons
[16:26] <Ast001> Hello just want to thank canonical for making this great distro! Thanks it is great!
[16:26] <hideki> http://fukumoto-tech.serveblog.net/wordpress/
[16:27] <Lartza_> What does vncserver run?
[16:27] <Lartza_> killall vncserver says no process found
[16:28] <colex> Dr_Willis: yeah, but it's not my desktop, the new session show an empty desktop , mine has many icons
[16:28] <Lartza_> killall vncserver says no process found
[16:28] <Pici> nmvictor: Because your video driver is not providing that.  What video card do you have?
[16:28] <Lartza_> what is the process name?
[16:29] <Unno> To be more specific, I have an entry in the shared memory table created by my user with perm 666, key=[0x800] and size of 16bytes ... I would like to create a C programm that gets access to that memory. To do that I run in my program shmid=shmget(0x800,0,0); and after that shmat(shmid,0,0); If I print the shmid and compare it to the entry in [ipcs -m] it is correct, but shmat returns (void *) -1, aka Invalid Pointer (fail).
[16:29] <nmvictor> Pici: nmvictors-linuxbox:~$ lspci | grep VGA 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
[16:30] <Pici> nmvictor: You mentioned that you modified your xorg.conf.  What driver is that card using now?
[16:30] <nmvictor> Pici: ati
[16:31] <colex> Dr_Willis: this is my xstartup file http://pastebin.com/z8cDbu2y
[16:33] <srivatsa> Adaptive Multi Rate (AMR) decoder_m gettin this package in not found when i try to play 3gp files in movie player......
[16:33] <Pici> nmvictor: Can you please pastebin your xorg log and your xorg.conf file?
[16:33] <srivatsa> Adaptive Multi Rate (AMR) decoder..... i m gettin this package in not found when i try to play 3gp files in movie player.....
[16:34] <kraetzja> a long time ago, i used to leave a set of terminals open that streamed a few log files i wanted to keep an eye on, but i completely forget how i did it. any clues?
[16:34] <Lartza_> how does vino work
[16:34] <Lartza_> xubuntu
[16:34] <hideki> http://fukumoto-tech.serveblog.net/wordpress/
[16:34] <Lartza_> no command vino, not in places menu
[16:35] <__taco> i use wicd to connect my wireless router, and it could found the wireless in range , but it can't connect it, it always say bad password.
[16:35] <toader_> hi, how to create liveUSB? as i want to install ubuntu from USB stick.
[16:35] <nmvictor> Pici: http://pastebin.com/erHh7LC4, their you go
[16:35] <oskude> kraetzja: tail -f /var/log/foo ?
[16:36] <archetype> Unno: once again. except the return value shmat like most  of the system calls when they fail they raise an error (the errno value). Use perror to print the error and check what is the errno value that is set
[16:36] <colex_> sry ,connection failed
[16:37] <thedude42> anyone else having major ACPI related issues when transitioning power states (ie, resume from suspend, etc)
[16:38] <nmvictor> Pici: sorry, here the cureent one: http://pastebin.com/76jQpNQc , i had forgoten to update it
[16:38] <llutz> kraetzja: use "multitail"
[16:38] <bullgard> "Your gdm log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information. Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?" What might be the most sensible information there? There are many gdm logs. For example I found in /var/log/gdm/:0-slave.log.3 an informationen if I need a password to log in or not. Is there there even more sensible information?
[16:38] <kraetzja> llutz, investigating, ty
[16:38] <gridbag> whats a good 811n PCI wireless card for 10.04? the last one i got i couldn't get to work and returned it.
[16:39] <gridbag> i like how google returns a great list of ones that *dont work*.
[16:39] <nmvictor> thedude42: my battery status isnt showing on the notification, if i unplag AC, i dont even get the notification i used to get in jaunty
[16:39] <Pici> nmvictor: Does your video work at all if you don't modify your xorg.conf file?
[16:39] <bullgard> gridbag: Look for HCL.
[16:40] <JenniferB> I have these 2 * 1GB memory sticks that I'd like to add to my desktop computer.. but I currently have 2*GB ones in 2 of the 4 slots in the computer... I think they are of a different type.. but the same model... the are a PC6400 both types.. the ones in the computer are 6-6-6-12 and the one I've got here next to me are 5-5-5-12 ... is it still possible to use them ?
[16:40] <JenniferB> they are all 800 MHz by the way
[16:40] <Pici> JenniferB: Thats not really on-topic for this channel. ##hardware would be a more appropriate place to ask :)
[16:40] <claude23> Hello?
[16:40] <JenniferB> ooh thanks for the tip
[16:40] <gridbag> bullgard : are there any special 811n pci installation tips?
[16:40] <Pici> !hi | claude23
[16:42] <thedude42> nmvictor, yeah I had some indicator issues like that on my thinkpad after upgrade to 10.04, but subsequent reboots solved it.... on my home desktop it's a totally different story where 2/3 reboots fail and 1/4 resume from suspend fails as well
[16:42] <claude23> Ok.. I installe Ubuntu 6.10 on my USB. I want to save User files and such. How do I do that?
[16:42] <Rocafort8> How can I restore the default panels in gnome ?
[16:42] <nmvictor> Pici: no, infact it only half of the screen was woring until i pilled off xorg.conf from : http://takewii.com/index.php?q=aHR0cHM6Ly93aWtpLnVidW50dS5jb20vUG93ZXJQQ0ZBUQ%3D%3D : for a start which gave me a full screen.
[16:42] <llutz> !panels | Rocafort8
[16:43] <BigThetan> Can anyone help me setup my syslog server.
[16:43] <Unno> archetype: the error is "Success" and the errno is 0.
[16:44] <thedude42> nmvictor, the awesome part is that after resume fails, attempts to reboot seem to introduce issues, the most recent being that ACPI would not wake up the rest of my CPU cores so I only see 1 core, but after 3 attempts to reboot things seem 'fine'
[16:44] <Pici> nmvictor: You're on a powerpc?
[16:44] <rewati> hi i want to run a exe file. i know wine but i want to know is there anything better than wine on linux
[16:44] <bullgard> claude23: You can not. USB is a bus and will not store data permanently.
[16:44] <nmvictor> thedude42: I thought my problem was unique coz i am running karmic in an iBook, are you on an intel based machine?
[16:44] <BigThetan> Can I get some help with my Syslog Server
[16:44] <arand_> rewati: No, virtual machine, is one option.
[16:44] <claude23> Ok then, How do you suggest I do something like that?
[16:45] <Rocafort8> Wow, perfect. Thanks !
[16:45] <nmvictor> Pici: ooh, yea. iBook g4/800 12 " inch screen, to be exact
[16:45] <BigThetan> I have the server up and running just trying to get syslog to log from specfied clients
[16:45] <thedude42> nmvictor, yeah, we would have wildly different power environments
[16:45] <SORA> hey guys sudo iwlist scan says "device does not support scanning"
[16:45] <SORA> and for ifconfig i only get eth0 and lo
[16:45] <rewati> arand_ how about cadega
[16:45] <SORA> and eth0 is my lan nic
[16:45] <rewati> @arand_ how about cadega
[16:45] <SORA> so where is my wlan card??
[16:46] <SORA> and for iwconfig i get "no wireless extension installed" for both eth0 and lo
[16:46] <SORA> maco and Dr_Willis
[16:46] <Pici> nmvictor: I'm sorry, I really don't have any experience working with ati cards on powerpc :/
[16:46] <llutz> BigThetan: start syslogd with "-r" option
[16:46] <arand_> rewati: I have no idea, so I won't say neither nay nor yay at that.
[16:46] <nmvictor> thedude42: i googled only to learn that it was a bug or something similar ... not sure though,  but their is a work around though i had issues with Xorg, so i dint take it up seriously
[16:46] <claude23> Is there actually an Ubuntu tech here?
[16:47] <rewati> @arand_ ok thanks nywaz
[16:47] <arand_> rewati: (regarding if it may be better or not)
[16:47] <llutz> BigThetan: configure your logging clients to log to "@ip.of.your.loghost"
[16:47] <BigThetan> @llutz ok I will try that?
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> claude23:  you mean someone who gets paid to do this?
[16:47] <maco> SORA: ok so its a driver problem. try installing linux-backports-modules since it has more up to date wireless drivers
[16:47] <Pici> claude23: Ubuntu 6.10 is no longer supported, we cannot help you with a version that is that old.
[16:47] <llutz> BigThetan: read "man syslogd.conf"
[16:47] <archetype> Unno: if you could provide an example program cause i am borred to write one so that i can check it in my system maybe i could check it. But normal behavior if the return of shmat is -1 is to set the errno. You will be right that something is wrong IF there is nothing else going on.
[16:47] <claude23> Ok. what versions are?
[16:47] <psusi> 6.10?  holy crap!  and I thought 8.10 was ancient!
[16:47] <BigThetan> u know what iam using the new version of syslog in Ubuntu rsyslog
[16:48] <llutz> BigThetan: then read "man rsyslogd.conf"
[16:48] <BigThetan> r the commands the same
[16:48] <BigThetan> ok
[16:48] <psusi> that's 3.5 years old
[16:48] <BigThetan> thanks
[16:48] <Soyo> if I put user: user@gmail.com in /etc/aliases is that going to be fail? Is it only for local users or can I forward e-mails anywhere?
[16:48] <Pici> claude23: 6.06 (but not for much longer), 8.04, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04.
[16:48] <nmvictor> Pici: thanks for trying anyway
[16:48] <SORA> maco: ok how do i do this?
[16:49] <maco> SORA: can you use a wired connection to download teh packages through synaptic?
[16:49] <maco> SORA: if not, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:49] <SORA> maco: ok whats synapic?
[16:49] <llutz> BigThetan: http://jim-zimmerman.com/?p=261
[16:49] <maco> SORA: the graphical package manager system -> administrations -> synaptic package manager
[16:50] <Soyo>  SORA | package manager maybe?
[16:50] <Wavesonics> hey is there anyway for a make file to know what make file it was called by?
[16:50] <maco> SORA: and apparently on lucid the package is renamed linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[16:51] <edmoore> on my eeepc, i have installed netbook remix. I have put / on the 4gb ssd and /home on the 16gb ssd. However, setting up my system I've used up all of / already, and it's all basically the fault of texlive in /usr/share . is there any way I can move that to the other ssd?
[16:51] <bullgard> "Your gdm log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information. Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?" What might be the most sensible information there? There are many gdm logs. For example I found in /var/log/gdm/:0-slave.log.3 an informationen if I need a password to log in or not. Is there there even more sensible information?
[16:52] <Audible> edmoore : symlink it
[16:52] <edmoore> Audible: ok thanks. is it safe to just copy and paste it across through the gui?
[16:52] <edmoore> and then add the symlink
[16:52] <psusi> edmoore: no since that will not preserve ownership and permissions, you need to sudo cp -a it
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  its possible it might have some password or other sensitive type info in it.
[16:53] <edmoore> psusi: ok thanks
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  older log files get archived. thats what the #'s are for. I tend to clear them out every so often
[16:53] <edmoore> not sudo mv -a?
[16:53] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: In what file precisley?
[16:53] <psusi> edmoore: I'd copy first, and make sure it's done right, before deleting the original
[16:54] <oskude> is ubuntu-manual.org only available as pdf ? cant i read it online in html ?
[16:54] <compaq> I have a problem, I installed libsfxswf-dev and the python wrapper, but the programs aren't there
[16:54] <bullgard> s/precisley/precisely/
[16:54] <edmoore> psusi: ok thanks
[16:54] <llutz> Soyo: you can define external mail-addresses in /etc/aliases
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  it COULD be in any of the gdm log files. thats why its a warning that it 'may contain' if you are worried about it.. then dont inlude them
[16:55] <compaq> anybody tried this librfxswf-dev; I can work it.
[16:55] <krishnandu> how to remove python2 and install python3??
[16:55] <Soyo>  llutz | nice, thanks
[16:55] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: You are speaking about "COULD". I have been checking actually. And I had a precise question.
[16:56] <compaq> krishnandu, did you try apt-get remove and then apt-get install?
 Nope. I'm asking how to do it
 Currently I used sudo apt-get install python3
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  so you found a password in the files? or what did you find?  The most senesitive information could be some of your passwords to machines you used.     rephrase your question perhaps.
 And the installation is going on
 Now how to remove the older version??
[16:57] <compaq> krishnandu, thats it.
 But how to remove the older version?? Leaving it won't have any problem??
[16:57] <compaq> krishnandu, it probably did it automatically, and it says it there to
[16:57] <compaq> krishnandu, no, it will remove I bet, I never used it myself
[16:57] <Tom^> hi i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and im trying to setup fglrx for my radeon 5870 and when im doing aticonfig --initial it errors with "Unable to find any supported Screen sections" any one got any tips how to solve this?
 Okies....How would I see the version??
[16:57] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: If a password is contained, in what file is it then precisely?
[16:58] <compaq> krishnandu, but usually there remove older ones when new ones are installed
 hmm
 lemme see
[16:58] <nmvictor> ok, what would be the appropritae Horsync, VertSync and refresh rate for a 12" inch monitor? using an ati/radeon driver?
[16:58] <compaq> krishnandu, you can run any program name with -v option to see version.  Well most programs have that option
 Nope the older version is not removed. When I typed python i get the older console and when i type python3 i get the newer console
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:    GDM logs get taken and slowly 'arvchived/moved' to different names thats why you have  different #'s on them.  current one is proberly no#. .1 is yesterdays .2 is the day befors (or somthing like that) so  its possible  that  your sensetive information could be in any of them.. because its logs of gdm fro the last week+
[16:59] <plazia> anyone else have the problem where sometimes you boot up and your ntfs  partitions are visible and other times you boot up and they are not?
[16:59] <compaq> krishnandu, ok, so you are good then, but if you do want to remove older one use apt-get remove, but I wouldn't worry about it too much
 Okies...thanks...lemme try
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[17:00] <FloodBot4> EaS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <compaq> krishnandu, no problemo
 :)
[17:01] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: That is not correct. Suffix numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 do not refer to today, yesterday, the day before yesterday, ...
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  seems the logs in /var/log/gdm are different then whats in /var/log
[17:02] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: Indeed.
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> explains why they are not gettting archived also i imagine - lioke other logs do
[17:03] <Glacer> Hello, has anyone got Gdesklet to work on 10.04? mine took a update and now it will not start.
[17:03] <Rogzilla> Please help. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 server. I have written a script to open a vlc stream, then a startup script that starts the stream script in a new screen session. However, I want to be able to pass the sudo privalegs from the start.sh to the video.sh in screen. So that I can enter my password outside of screen. Any ideas??
[17:04] <Guest5572> witam
[17:04] <Unno> archetype: back. Here is an example: http://pastebin.com/e7p7DDfE
[17:04] <mxgms> ok, thanks
[17:04]  * Dr_Willis sees no real logic in the log file becoming .1 and .2 now..  Unless its based on size..  some of mine are 4+ days different in date.
[17:04] <Glacer> Rogzilla, isnt it bad to run things under root as far as server wise if it's public?
[17:05] <llutz> Dr_Willis: handles by lograte?
[17:05] <llutz> handled
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  never really noticed. I tend to clean them out befor i get too many. :) havent cleaned them in weeks...
[17:05] <Rogzilla> Glacer: here are my scripts. http://pastie.org/967843 I have to use sudo to open the firewire input.
[17:05] <Glacer> oh
[17:05] <Audible> cant you give your user access to the firewire?
[17:06] <Rogzilla> im using the video1394 module, and dvconnect needs sudo privs.
[17:06] <Glacer> wow Rogzilla if you can write scripts like that and more, you know more then me, lol
[17:06] <Rogzilla> Glacer: they are actually super simple, in reality there are only two commands.
[17:06] <monty_hall> Anybody know of cli that will take an address and return the geographical location?  I know there are websites.
[17:07] <ryuurei> Is there an official channel for ubuntu 10.04 discussion?
[17:07] <josh123> I just installed openoffice.org and when I open it, instead of showing icons for copy/paste, etc, it has the text "copy" "paste"... is there any way to show icons instead, like in MS word?
[17:07] <monty_hall> s/cli/cli program
[17:07] <Glacer> ryuurei, this is ubuntu-unregistered
[17:07] <Pici> ryuurei: This channel is for all supported versions of Ubuntu, but it is a support channel.  Discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:07] <Pici> Glacer: No, this is #ubuntu
[17:07] <Glacer> isn't there a #ubuntu channel?
[17:07] <Glacer> oh
[17:07] <Rogzilla> So, back to my question. Anyone know how to pass sudo privs into screen? http://pastie.org/967843
[17:07] <ryuurei> Thanks. Appreciated.
[17:07] <Glacer> I thought people that wasn't registed come here
[17:08] <chantha> flash
[17:08] <xomp> hello, how would I move all files/folders from /home/user/home/user to /home/user ?
[17:08] <Pici> Glacer: Thats #ubuntu-ungregged, and nothing is forwarding users there at this moment.
[17:08] <xomp> sorry, using command line only here :)
[17:08] <Rogzilla> xomp: command 'cp -r /home/user/home/user /home/user
[17:09] <josh123> xomp: mv -R /from/path /to/path
[17:09] <xomp> Rogzilla, cheers mate \o
[17:09] <Rogzilla> xomp: i meant mv
[17:09] <xomp> ah hah okay :)
[17:09] <xomp> thanks guys
[17:09] <Glacer> Pici you use Gdesklet on 10.04? mine took a update and now it will not start.
[17:09] <peekok> hi all
[17:09] <anon_> hai
[17:10] <xomp> josh123, mv: invalid option -- 'R'
[17:10] <Pici> Glacer: I'm sorry, I don't.
[17:10] <archetype> Unno: ok. hold on a sec though
[17:10] <josh123> xomp: mv /from /to
[17:10] <josh123> drop the r
[17:11] <xomp> oh ok
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Glacer:  run it from terminal, look for error messages - for a start?
[17:11] <Rogzilla> xomp: haha, the -r option is for recursive, for the copy cp command.
[17:11] <josh123> anyone know how to enable icons in openoffice? so that it displays the icons for actions instead of plain text
[17:12] <mant1s> with the new ldap package in 10.04lts can you update the ldap database on the fly?
[17:13] <peekok> anyone have any idea why the ethernet in 10.04 LTS is not working? I had that sorted out on OS X laptop (also, live cd on the same machine through virtualization - ethernet is working fine). on the desktop pc, with fresh 10.04 install, there is no ethernet connection?
[17:14] <Rogzilla> Rogzilla: So, back to my question. Anyone know how to pass sudo privs into screen? http://pastie.org/967843
[17:14] <claude23> Ok. who knows how much memory the USB persistent programe takes up?
[17:15] <nmvictor> something I havent gotten quite right, does the open source ati radeon driver for ATI cards support AIGLX ?
[17:16] <solifugus> Where are package repositories listed?  Where I'd expect, "/etc/apt".. they seem commented out.. "but apt-get update" shows its getting updated info..
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> claude23:  You mean how much more a 'live usb' booting with and without a persistant save file would take?
[17:16] <nmvictor> something I havent gotten quite right, does the open source ati radeon driver for ATI cards support AIGLX ?
[17:16] <SARO> hey maco i installed the backport-modules but it still does not work. how can i see which chipset i have? and how can i install a driver?
[17:17] <SARO> Dr_Willis hi
[17:17] <solifugus> I have a problem with vim not installing cause it wants a particular version of vim-common and apt-get installed a higher version...
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> claude23:  it shoundent take up much (if any more actual ram) the persistant save file gets mounted to the proper locations and changes made to it.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> claude23:  it dosent all load into ram.
[17:18] <anon_> kinda late on this one but anyone sorted the issue with heroes of newerth not being able to minimize?
[17:19] <SARO> also can you recommend a good editor like notepad++ ?? the gedit is a bit lame
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  dozens of text editors you can choose from. I perfer geany. but its worth while to learn VIM
[17:19] <ThinkingInBits> Hey, I am very new to linux... just installed ubuntu on my server, configured my LAMP stack;  Now, I'm trying to setup FTP... I installed vsftpd, and created a user with his home directory as /var/www, however when I try connecting through FTP I receive a critical error, any ideas why?  Sorry if this sounds naive, like I said I'm just starting off with linux.
[17:19] <SARO> ok thanks will check out geany
[17:19] <ThinkingInBits> SARO: I use TextPad
[17:19] <padi999> evolution...sucks... I'm sorry to be putting this in troll-style but evolution is the single most often crashing application in ubuntu lucid
[17:20] <SARO> ThinkingInBits: isnt this mac?
[17:20] <ThinkingInBits> SARO: I thought they had packages available for all systems, could be wrong... I use it on windows
[17:20] <Stijndg> padi999, it never once crashed here, i think it's a problem that does not affect all users
[17:20] <Pici> !info geany | SARO
[17:20] <nmvictor> i need a hand, my graphics card is ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), now to which radeon series doe it fall under?
[17:20] <SARO> ok thanks
[17:21] <SARO> i will try geany i think, textpad is only windows as it seems
[17:21] <plazia> Anyone else have the problem where sometimes you boot up and your NTFS partitions are visible/mountable and other times you boot up and they are not?
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  theres proberly 20+ text editors in the repos....
[17:21] <ThinkingInBits> SARO: Yeah, it is windows only :(
[17:21] <b3bu> systemerror kk
[17:21] <SARO> Dr_Willis: geany looks like an IDE though, i just want a powerful editor like notepad++ since gedit sucks
[17:21] <mcl0vin> am trying to compile a V4L driver , were will be the best place to keep all requirments
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  the fact it has ide featuers does not mean its not a good text editor..
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  i never use the ide features.
[17:22] <Rogzilla> Rogzilla: So, back to my question. Anyone know how to pass sudo privs into screen? http://pastie.org/967843
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  and geany is also avail for windows
[17:22] <ThinkingInBits> Anyone on the vsftpd?
[17:22]  * systemerror slaps b3bu around a bit with a large trout
[17:22] <SARO> ok
[17:22] <Rogzilla> ThinkingInBits: what about vsftpd?
[17:23] <SARO> thanks
[17:23] <ThinkingInBits> I'll post my original: Hey, I am very new to linux... just installed ubuntu on my server, configured my LAMP stack; Now, I'm trying to setup FTP... I installed vsftpd, and created a user with his home directory as /var/www, however when I try connecting through FTP I receive a critical error, any ideas why? Sorry if this sounds naive, like I said I'm just starting off with linux.
[17:23] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i installed the backport-modules but it still does not work. how can i see which chipset i have? and how can i install a driver?
[17:23] <b3bu> kkk
[17:23] <Rogzilla> ThinkingInBits: did you edit the config file? /etc/vsftpd.conf
[17:23] <ThinkingInBits> I took a look at it
[17:23] <Rogzilla> ThinkingInBits: you might need to config something
[17:23] <SARO> Dr_Willis: for the PRISM
[17:23] <nmvictor> i need a hand, my graphics card is ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02), now to which radeon series doe it fall under?
[17:23] <ThinkingInBits> let me take a deeper look
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  ive never used the backports stuff. chipset you can see with the 'lspci' command
[17:24] <pdtpatri1k> Question .. does anyone have this problem too. After a while, ssh-agent stops to work and you have to manually fire it up again.
[17:24] <SARO> Dr_Willis: it did not list my prism
[17:24] <Rogzilla> ThinkingInBits: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[17:24] <ThinkingInBits> should listen_ipv6 be enabled?
[17:24] <ThinkingInBits> Rogzilla: thanks!
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  it should of listed quite a bit of stuff. this is a PCI wireless card? or what exactly?
[17:24] <pdtpatri1k> Question .. does anyone have this problem too. After a while, ssh-agent stops to work and you have to manually fire it up again.
[17:25] <SARO> Dr_Willis: built in laptop
[17:25] <Rogzilla> ThinkingInBits: you need to enable local_enable=YES, and write_enable=YES
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  you did read up at the wireless wiki pages?
[17:25] <serlingrod> hi, my 9.10 update manger is not checking autmagically, and only shows updates due when I run it manually, even tho settings are all set.  I can't find a bug notice of this w/ Goog, anyone else having this issue?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | SARO
[17:25] <sticky> Is there a PPA for Lucid for the 2.6.34 kernel?
[17:26] <padi999> Stijndg: and the lags? Do you not have very long lags with imap accounts?
[17:26] <pdtpatri1k> does anyone else experience ssh-agent / keyforwarding problems in ubuntu? It works and it crashes after a while and you have to use ssh-add to manually add the key again.
[17:27] <IdleOne> !patience | pdtpatri1k
[17:27] <SARO> Dr_Willis: ok i found it wiht lspci -v
[17:27] <Guest64539> Is there a PPA for Lucid for the 2.6.34 kernel?
[17:28] <SARO> Dr_Willis: now it says "access denied" and "kernel modules: p54pci, prism54
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest64539:  theres some KERNEL ppa's yes. but ive never used them. I was thinking there was even a daily build kernel ppa
[17:28] <SARO> Dr_Willis: Capabilities: <access denied>
[17:28] <Guest64539> Dr_Willis: Links please. :)
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest64539:  no idea. I dont use them.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest64539:  i know better. :)
[17:28] <Guest64539> Dr_Willis: Lucid's kernel has a massive IO bug for me.
[17:29] <Guest64539> Dr_Willis: My IO performance is BAD.
[17:29] <jahm> I downloaded a vhdl, but I don't know where the program is located
[17:29] <SARO> what can i do
[17:29] <Roasted> Does anybody have wireless issues with 10.04 that didn't exist in 9.10? I cannot connect to a WPA secured network at work, however I can connect to every other WPA + WPA2 network in other buildings without a single issue at work. Unsure of why 1 building is giving me a headache...
[17:30] <serlingrod> err 10.04 Update Manager
[17:30] <jahm> I had that error Roasted, a while ago
[17:30] <_blackwater_> Roasted I did with 10 but it was broadcom chip problem
[17:30] <Roasted> _blackwater_, I have a broadcom chip in my laptop. :(
[17:31] <_blackwater_> Roasted but you can connect to 'any' wlan network tho right? just not one u want
[17:31] <jahm> I changed the type of pass key
[17:31] <Roasted> jahm, was it fixed?
[17:31] <jahm> Yah
[17:31] <Roasted> _blackwater_, We have several networks here. WPA2, WPA, I use WPA at home, and here at the high school (I work in a school district) we use WPA2 Enterprise. Everything works except ht emiddle school's WPA network.
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  what command are you doing exactly that says that denied stuff?  was it even able to show any networks when you scanned?
[17:32] <ThinkingInBits> Cool, it works... thanks :)
[17:32] <_blackwater_> Roasted i think it's wpa password
[17:32] <Roasted> _blackwater_, yet I know the hardware itself can handle it. We have 100 identical laptops on XP Pro for studentes that work fine. My laptop is identical except on Ubuntu.
[17:32] <Roasted> _blackwater_, what do you mean?
[17:33] <kev_> I can't log in. Whenever I log in, there's a message like "you have been logged out within  seconds, if you didn't do this, then there's some prob with ur free disk space and blah blah blah...."
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> kev_:  can you login via console?
[17:33] <SARO> Dr_Willis: my wlan card is not in iwconfig or ifconfig, i got the denied output from "lspci -v"
[17:33] <_blackwater_> Roasted if you can connect to some wireless networks then your radio is working, i would check the wpa passkey, passcode, for the ap you're trying to connect.
[17:33] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i am trying to integrate my wlan card into the system so that it shows up in ifconfig
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  perhaps try it with sudo. (sudo lspci -v)
[17:33] <kev_> I've tried logging in via failsafe Gnome and then swtching to console using ctrl+alt+f12
[17:33] <kev_> it didn;t work
[17:33] <kev_> I simply couldn;t see the tterminal
[17:33] <_blackwater_> Roasted you can also troubleshoot with ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' and see if you get passkey errors when connecting to your ap
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  in theory if the modules are loaded for it. it should show up in ifconfig
[17:34] <markl> kev_: can you reboot in the troubleshooting mode?
[17:34] <SARO> Dr_Willis: i just did sudo lshw -C network and it showed my chipset too but says "UNCLAIMED" next to it
[17:34] <Roasted> _blackwater_, the AP and password is fine. Im positive of that. Ive even deleted the network from my history and re-connected to it. Or, tried to at least. It just keeps bombing out.
[17:34] <markl> is it "recovery" ?  i can't remember what grub calls it
[17:34] <GeekSquid> kev_: try Ctrl-alt-F1 ... there is not terminal @ F12
[17:34] <kev_> Dr_Willis, you mean recovery mode? Yes. I tried it, and did the "fix x-graphics" thingy and did an fscan
[17:34] <Roasted> jahm, what kind of passkey did you go to?
[17:34] <kev_> ctrl-alt-f1?
[17:34] <kev_> hmmm...
[17:34] <kev_> ok
[17:34] <_blackwater_> tail your syslog while trying to connect.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> kev_:  actyually i ment from 'alt-ctrl-f1' when you see the GDM login screen.
[17:35] <SARO> Dr_Willis: yeah well sudo lspci -v showed a bit more information, but still it only LISTS stuff so i need to integrate it somehow into my system
[17:35] <SARO> Dr_Willis: how can i do this?
[17:35] <Roasted> _blackwater_, what will that prove? Whether or not the PW is fine?
[17:35] <edmoore> where can I find the disc usage analyzer in netbook remix? it doesn't appear in the default applications menu system
[17:35] <kev_> GeekSquid, But I'm currently running xchat (GUI) from the failsafe terminal
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  when  the proper modules are loaded - the tools should work for it, Ive rarely had any issues with wireless on my 4 notebooks
[17:36] <GeekSquid> kev_: Ctrl-Alt-F7 will get you back
[17:36] <SARO> Dr_Willis: well i did not remove any modules, i even installed the backport modules, and still it does not work
[17:36] <_blackwater_> Roasted it will show authentication success / fail and also all 5 stages of negotiation.
[17:36] <jbendotnet> am struggling to sign in to a user account via ssh
[17:36] <Roasted> _blackwater_, so do I just type that command in and THEN try to connect to the wireless?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  i would have to suggest checking the forums for your exact chipset and see if any other users of 10.04 have had any issues.  could be somthing trival wrong.
[17:37] <SARO> i will try a reboot
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> SARO:  or could be some very hard to find bug.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:37] <b3bu> Anyone from Brazil?
[17:37] <b3bu> Anyone from Brazil?
[17:37] <jbendotnet> can sign in with another user account, and changed the password of the user I couldn't access, but still no joy
[17:37] <SARO> yeah
[17:37] <GeekSquid> !br | b3b
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !br | b3bu
[17:37] <jbendotnet> any pointers on the log file to look in?
[17:37] <b3bu> obrigado
[17:37] <kev_> GeekSquid, not in failsafe anyway. But When I tried logging in at failsafe gnome (which is supposed to give me a gui instead of the terminal), I can see nothing but a simpel gdasklet app I had on my desktop. Nothing else is visible (just black) or clickable. But I can click on this desklet and change its properties etc. And that means its not that my xorg crashed, right?
[17:37] <b3bu> tankys
[17:37] <_blackwater_> Roasted yes.  Open a console, type ' tail -F /var/log/syslog ', then try to connect.
[17:37] <llutz> jbendotnet: /var/log/auth.log,       try "ssh -vvv user@host" to get more info
[17:38] <michelle__> so... has anyone installed 10.04 with an nvidia raid yet? so far i havent been able to get it to work... but i am a total noob
[17:38] <Roasted> thanks _blackwater_ . Have you personally had this same issue as me at any point?
[17:38] <Roasted> michelle__, I have 10.04 on an nvidia card, but that desktop is @ home
[17:38] <markl> michelle__: you mean a "raid" that is built onto the motherboard?
[17:38] <kev_> GeekSquid, And what if I'm able to log in thru a terminal (which kind of confuse me 'cos I'm already at a terminal!) What next?
[17:38] <jbendotnet> llutz: shoudl I do ssh -vvv whilst logged in ?
[17:38] <llutz> jbendotnet: when trying to connect
[17:38] <mrfelton> Hi. I'm trying to create a startup item for Skype, but it's not working. The command I have used is: echo username password | skype --pipelogin &
[17:38] <markl> michelle__: those are 100% useless; you should get a card like maybe something from 3ware (cheap on ebay)
[17:38] <michelle__> yes... raid 5 array 4 250g disks
[17:38] <mrfelton> this command works when called from the terminal
[17:39] <mrfelton> but not from the startup application
[17:39] <GeekSquid> kev_ sounds right, uh I think Compiz may have crashed... try Ctrl-Alt-T and run compiz --replace-metacity
[17:39] <mrfelton> any ideas?!
[17:39] <michelle__> i know... but i have my xp install already on the raid and i need to dual boot it
[17:39] <markl> michelle__: "built in" motherboard raid is really just a hook to a windows driver
[17:39] <_blackwater_> Roasted yes - most of the time to see if I fatfingered a password, or just completely out of range, or if I had a radio problem with my chip.
[17:39] <markl> and the real processing happens in windows
[17:39] <xingfudan> hello
[17:39] <michelle__> yes  i know... but dmraid doesnt seem to load auromatically
[17:40] <Roasted> _blackwater_, the thing is theres a checkbox to *show password* in plain text. I am absolutely, positively, 100% that the password is completely correct. There's no getting around that. I type it in windows, it works. I type it in ubuntu, it doesn't. Same PW. Same SSID. Same network.
[17:40] <markl> my suggestion is to never use RAID unless you have a separate card
[17:40] <jbendotnet> llutz: ok, what am I looking for?
[17:40] <markl> linux software raid has serious problems too
[17:40] <michelle__> and the alt disc install doesnt seem to see the raid even after i tell it to activate it
[17:40] <llutz> jbendotnet: errors, warnings
[17:40] <jbendotnet> kk
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: could try setting a simpler password, just to test.  not all adapters can use wpa under linux
[17:40] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, mine can.
[17:41] <kev_> GeekSquid, Compiz? I'm not sure if i had it installed...might have messed up with the package manager,....I'll do it....but I think this happened when I was trying out xfce. It was so buggy. One time, the sound won't work, and the other time, all my icons dissappears! i was just trying it out. And finally it somehow ended up like this. Today mornng I logged out from XFCE and when tried to log in again, the "you have logged out within s " message appeared
[17:41] <jbendotnet> it's saying it's an invalid user in the log
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: try wicd
[17:41] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, I tried several networks here at work. WPA, WPA2, WPA2 enterprise, etc. They all work except the one WPA network I try.
[17:41] <jbendotnet> llutz: fot allowed because not listed in AllowUsers
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: does it have mac filtering or any other extra security?
[17:41] <kev_> GeekSquid, just one sec, let me try out what u said
[17:41] <llutz> jbendotnet: so adjust sshd_config
[17:41] <jbendotnet> wonder why it's changed
[17:41] <michelle__> i have looked at he how to on the site... and tried to follow the one for the alt disc install, but it failed to see the raid
[17:41] <jbendotnet> will do
[17:42] <markl> michelle__: my recommendation is to get something like: http://tinyurl.com/25yw4n5
[17:42] <markl> and start over your raid project - never use motherboard or software raid
[17:42] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, no, this particular network is a simple WPA passphrase network.
[17:42] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, its an identical setup to 2 other buildings (however theres different wireless controllers there) but its all the same kind of security and layout. Theyw rok, but this particular one does not. Hence my frustration.
[17:43] <jbendotnet> llutz: ok - clearly never signed in via SSH with this user
[17:43] <jbendotnet> doh
[17:43] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, I WAS able to connect at one point, but Id lose connection like every 10 minutes and itd struggle re-gaining it. Most often Id have to reboot to regain it.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: got the latest driver for your device?
[17:43] <jbendotnet> in
[17:43] <jbendotnet> phew
[17:43] <michelle__> markl:   i cant... my windows install is on the raid
[17:43] <llutz> jbendotnet: not every user needs ssh-access
[17:43] <jbendotnet> true
[17:43] <jbendotnet> this one does
[17:43] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, whatever came in hardware driver mgr in 10.04
[17:43] <markl> michelle__: copy your windows data to another drive temporarily or something like that
[17:43] <jbendotnet> just doing it all via cli and su'ing to the user
[17:44] <jbendotnet> so didn't notice
[17:44] <markl> michelle__: it won't be easy but you have to get rid of that POS motherboard raid somehow
[17:44] <Lartza_> how do you restart xfce login manager?
[17:44] <karma_police> i want to be able to right click a volume or flash drive and format but i don't have that option
[17:44] <Lartza_> Or display manager
[17:44] <Lartza_> what's the service?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: maybe there is a newer one that hardware manager doesn't know about yet. i'm guessing its some cheap broadcom 43xx thing
[17:45] <llutz> Lartza_: gdm most likely
[17:45] <phillyj> how do i remove a program? I ran "make clean" and then "make distclean" as was said in the install file but the folder is still there
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: you need to add a service menu in nautilus
[17:45] <michelle__> nah...  i know they have support for it in dmraid... would rather use that if i can
[17:45] <shamelessn00b> hi, I accidently rm -r'ed my /home/Desktop folder
[17:45] <Lartza_> llutz: On xubuntu? :/
[17:45] <jrib> phillyj: I assume you didn't use apt to install it?
[17:45] <archetype> Unno: jesus christ i ve been looking at it for half an hour!!! ... have you seen the code? check line 20!!! at the end you have a ; at the if statement
[17:45] <karma_police> how do i add a sevice menu in nautilus?
[17:45] <phillyj> no
[17:45] <kev_> GeekSquid, Hey, that ctrl+alt+f1 worked
[17:46] <rmatte> is there a way to do a do-release-upgrade and have it automatically select all of the default options?
[17:46] <shamelessn00b> how to recover deleted files in ubuntu
[17:46] <shamelessn00b> ?
[17:46] <llutz> Lartza_: afaik xfce has no special dm
[17:46] <michelle__> when i am ready to dump windows completely, i would redo it as a  software raid
[17:46] <jrib> !recover | shamelessn00b
[17:46] <kev_> And when I tried failsafe gnome again, I just got a message that gconf server exited with an error  ( It was there before, I simply forgot to tell you)
[17:46] <jrib> shamelessn00b: basically, use your backups
[17:46] <phillyj> i used the ./configure; make; make install method
[17:46] <ThinkingInBits> So I installed vsftpd and I'm successfully connecting to /var/www through ftp, but when I try to upload a file I receive a critical file transfer error, any ideas?
[17:46] <iceroot> shamelessn00b: if it was on gui, use the trash, if it was rm say goodbye to the files
[17:46] <kev_> GeekSquid, And when I tried failsafe gnome again, I just got a message that gconf server exited with an error  ( It was there before, I simply forgot to tell you)
[17:46] <shamelessn00b> :(
[17:46] <ThinkingInBits> the user's home dir is set to /var/www, but I can't upload files to that location
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: there are guides everywhere for them, you can add extra functionality to right clicks of any type of thing to make life easier
[17:47] <shamelessn00b> Im tryng to use scalpel
[17:47] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: checked permissions? "ls -ld /var/www"
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: someone may have already made one as it does make sense
[17:47] <archetype> told ya that this is a PEBCAK
[17:47] <jrib> phillyj: why?  You should always use APT whenever possible.  To remove it, you'll have to read tho software's documentation.  Sometimes developers include a "make uninstall" rule.  When they don't you must delete the files yourself
[17:47] <shamelessn00b> but it gives me shit loads of files to sift through
[17:47] <Lartza_> what's the keyboard showrcut to restart xorg after the backspace was disabled?
[17:47] <Unno> archetype thank you... you're a life saver. no i didn't see that. I've been looking for half a day at it. I guess a fresh pair of eyes is welcomed all the time
[17:47] <Lartza_> printscreen, k and?
[17:47] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: drwxr-xr-x
[17:48] <michelle__> so... if i did wipe my raid and start over... how would i have a dual boot system with windows and linux both striped in a raid 5 config
[17:48] <jrib> !away > edmoore|away
[17:48] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: owner/group?
[17:48] <ThinkingInBits> it should be drwxrwxr-x?
[17:48] <archetype> Unno: welcome. Glad to be of some help :)
[17:48] <michelle__> in a software raid setup
[17:48] <kev_> My gconfiguration server crashed with an error 256. Any ideas?
[17:48] <ThinkingInBits> root root
[17:49] <kev_> Simply put, I can;t log in
[17:49] <Unno> archetype: works like a charm. thanks again. G*d d*amn you stupid ' ; ' char
[17:49] <rmatte> is there a way to do a do-release-upgrade and have it automatically select all of the default options?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Lartza_: should be ALT+K+PrintScrn
[17:49] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: what group does vsftpd run with, nogroup? "chgrp nogroup /var/www" "chmod g+w /var/www"
[17:50] <kev_> Lartza_, Why do u need it? 'cos my xorg kind of crashed and I'm wondering if this particular shortcut will do any good.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Lartza_: you can re-enable it under keyboard prefs
[17:50] <archetype> Unno: yeah... very well hidden this tricky little ";". you could never understand why it is going in the error statement
[17:50] <perlmonkey2> Sometimes my laptop won't change cpu freq scales and sticks at its idle setting.  Pulling the power and plugging it back in resets it, but is there another way to reset the cpu scaler besides physcially pulling the cord?
[17:50] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: I'm new to linux, still grasping how accounts/groups work
[17:51] <michelle__> it is kind of irritating to see that this problem has existed for years, and it still hasn't been addressed in the main install
[17:51] <kev_> Any idea what's with this gconf server?
[17:51] <Unno> archetype: I should document this new error: "Success" and explain how to achieve it. It should be a blast in the geek community
[17:52] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: I'm going to change my ftp username's group to have permissions on /var/www
[17:53] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: you don't want to have vsftpd running with group=root
[17:53] <karma_police> is there a linux mint help chat? i know i am in an ubuntu room
[17:53] <phillyj> jrib it wasn't a file i could use apt with
[17:53] <ThinkingInBits> fsftpd is not a valid user
[17:53] <jrib> phillyj: what exactly was it?
[17:53] <michelle__> yea.. mint is on the spotchat networl
[17:53] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: my ftp user, is in a self titled group
[17:53] <michelle__> yea.. mint is on the spotchat network
[17:54] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: k
[17:54] <ThinkingInBits> Do I want to change my home directory to 777?  Or should I make my ftp user the owner?
[17:55] <^kiff^> hi
[17:55] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: 777 is a bad idea in most cases. why does your ftp-user needs access to your home?
[17:55] <ThinkingInBits> well his home directory is /var/www
[17:56] <phillyj> jrib: it was a FFTW; a Fourier Transform library
[17:56] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: ftp-home ok, "chgrp group /var/www" and "chmod g+w /var/www"  where group is your ftp-group
[17:56] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: the ftp user is named ftpuser in a group entitled ftpuser
[17:56] <jrib> phillyj: there are plenty of those, you're being vague
[17:57] <phillyj> jrib: a C subroutine library
[17:57] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: so "sudo chgrp ftpuser /var/www"
[17:57] <Dark_Wolf> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1100, and Xorg doesn't work on the laptop's monitor, it just goes straight to external, even with no monitor connected. Can anyone tell me how to fix it?
[17:57] <Dark_Wolf> I'm on Lucid, by the way
[17:57] <xloosescrewx> I need help with flash player i cant see/hear any web "streaming "videos all i get is a black screen
[17:57] <jrib> !info libfftw3-3 | phillyj, this?
[17:57] <phillyj> jrib: I installed a newer version but i needed an older version
[17:57] <Glacer> Hello, has anyone got Gdesklet to work on 10.04? mine took a update and now it will not start.
[17:57] <Dark_Wolf> Glacer: I don't think it works :/
[17:58] <phillyj> jrib: yes but i needed 2.x.x version
[17:58] <Glacer> I used older version got it to work 1 time, then it updated again and messed it up
[17:58] <jrib> !info fftw2 | phillyj, this?
[17:58] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: works now, thanks.  What exactly did those commands do?
[17:58] <phillyj> so its already installed?
[17:59] <jrib> phillyj: no, it's available in the repositories
[17:59] <kage> Qualcuno può aiutarmi a configurare trinity su ubuntu?
[17:59] <xloosescrewx> hello
[17:59] <guntbert> !it | kage
[17:59] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: man chown/man chmod :)  changed ownership of that dir to a group your user is member of and gave that group write-permissions (g+w)
[17:59] <phillyj> jrib: so i use apt get?
[17:59] <xloosescrewx> I need help with flash
[17:59] <jrib> phillyj: if you want to install it, sure
[17:59] <arand_> !details | xloosescrewx
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> Glacer, open a terminal and run gdesklets and see if you get the error "Could not import tiling module!" if so you should add yourself to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdesklets/+bug/569714
[18:00] <ThinkingInBits> llutz: cool, so any subsequent ftp users that I want to have permissions, I can just add them to this group :D
[18:00] <llutz> ThinkingInBits: yes
[18:01] <xloosescrewx> im running ubuntu 10.4 when i try to play any sort of streaming media the video only goes to a black screen, nosound either.
[18:01]  * ActionParsnip laments for his firewire hdd connection :(
[18:01] <Dark_Wolf> Does anyone know where there might be any instructions on getting 10.04 working on a Dell Inspiron 1100?
[18:01] <phillyj> jrib: so what should i type? apt-get 2.1.3?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: can you use http://pastebin.com   and give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf; uname -a     Thanks
[18:02] <jrib> phillyj: you can use Software Center if you aren't comfortable using apt-get
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: www.laptoplinux.com
[18:02] <jrib> !apt > phillyj
[18:02] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip: That's a search portal.... wrong URL?
[18:03] <xloosescrewx> im confused, do you want me to go to pastebin and what is dpkg?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: www.linux-laptop.net
[18:03] <phillyj> jrib: back to my 1st question; should i remove the folder fftw-3.2.2? and how?
[18:03] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip: Doesn't have 10.04 for my model.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: the thing after the link is a command to run in terminal, copy the outouot and paste it into the link , this will allow you to give the output without spamming the channel to death
[18:04] <jrib> phillyj: as I said before: To remove it, you'll have to read tho software's documentation.  Sometimes developers include a "make uninstall" rule.  When they don't you must delete the files yourself
[18:04] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone know how to get X working on an Inspiron 1100?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: its going to be basically the same
[18:04] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip: xorg is a lot different in 10.04
[18:05] <xloosescrewx> ok
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: just because its not EXACTLY what you are using doesnt't mean it wont fly
[18:05] <bezdomni> Is ubuntu software center the preferred way to install software, or is it a convenience that shouldn't be expected to work consistently at this point?
[18:05] <Cynthia> bezdomni: the former
[18:05] <jrib> bezdomni: the former
[18:05] <phillyj> jrib: o ic; i can't find the fftw 2.1.3 in the software center; i'll try apt-get
[18:05] <Cynthia> but you can also use Synaptic (which is expected to be stable) and apt-get (also)
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: if there is an xorg.conf there then you can make the file and use it (for example). xorg.conf can still be used
[18:06] <jrib> phillyj: the package name is fftw2.  There's also sfftw2 but I don't know the difference.  You'll have to check that
[18:06] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip: I have no idea how to make an xorg.conf
[18:06] <bezdomni> I ask because I am using a fresh install of ubuntu, and it keeps spitting errors at me like "sorry this software is not available for your i386 architecture" (nevermind that I am on an i686 machine), and downloads hang more often than they go through.)
[18:06] <bezdomni> Alright, cool - thanks. Synaptic is still the way to go?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: there are thousands of example files online, you can use sections or full versions of those files to make the xorg.conf file
[18:07] <hmw> when I want to play games in VirtualBox, should I install the OSE or the personal edition?
[18:07] <Cynthia> bezdomni: downloads hanging might be a network issue
[18:07] <llutz> hmw: OSE is fine if you don't need USB
[18:07] <hmw> thanks
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: you can generate one with: sudo Xorg -configure
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> hmw, gaming in VBox will probably be disappointing FYI - wine is a better option
[18:08] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip: I'll try.
[18:08] <Cynthia> bezdomni: (+) actually, your "no packages for this architecture" error might be because of a hung download for the package list itself - so it has an incomplete one to draw from
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> Dark_Wolf, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[18:08] <bezdomni> cynthia: nah, I don't think it is. Downloading with aptitude, wget, through the browser...etc are fine.
[18:08] <Cynthia> try again later
[18:08] <jrib> How do I stop mplayer from spamming "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)" about a dozen times everytime I use it?  (apparently the message is not specific to mplayer, though that's the only way I have experienced it)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: you can then tweak to make it use a slightly different config to get better performance etc etc
[18:09] <bezdomni> Cynthia: Ok - that is interesting! I think something did screw up there a while ago, but I thought it was mended.
[18:09] <bezdomni> Thank you!
[18:09] <Cynthia> bezdomni: ah :) you can try fixing that with an 'apt-get update' command
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Wolf: if you get no X, boot to root recovery console and rename the file.
[18:09] <Cynthia> to re-get all the package lists
[18:09] <bezdomni> Fantastic!
[18:10] <unclemantis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:10] <unclemantis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:10] <unclemantis> i bailed out of my login and now i logged in again to try and start the install for java again and I get that
[18:10] <hmw> ZykoticK9: i expect it to be somewhat lame, but I recently saw some 3d support when installing guest additions to a virtual XP, so I want to give it a try (for the first time)
[18:10] <DrNight> Are software RAID sets broken for everyone during install or just me?  It seems to be trying to format /dev/mapper/isw_blah_array01 instead of /dev/mapper/isw_blah_array0p1?
[18:10] <jef91> Is there a way I can tell what is holding back my packages from upgrading?
[18:10] <labrosse> OU SUIS JE?
[18:10] <Dark_Wolf> ActionParsnip, ZykoticK9: Thanks :)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !fr | labrosse
[18:11] <Pici> jef91: What command ar you using and what does it say?
[18:11] <xloosescrewx> ok action parsnip, i entered toe command line into terminal, but i don't understand what to do with the website?
[18:11] <Cynthia> unclemantis: my CTCP TIME was to see if you had just gotten the automatic update checking done by update-manager around 7 AM
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> DrNight: i use hard raid if ineed it, software raid sucks imho
[18:11] <Lok> \join #tool
[18:11] <Lok> oops
[18:11] <Lok> sry
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: copy all the output, go to http://pastebin.com   paste the text in the box and lick the post button
[18:11] <FloodBot4> Lok: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <unclemantis> Cynthia o_O
[18:12] <xloosescrewx> ok
[18:12] <jef91> Pici when I run apt-get upgrade it tell me 10 packages are being held back but not way
[18:12] <Pici> jef91: the 'upgrade' argument will not upgrade packages that have new dependencies.  What if you use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:12] <DrNight> ActionParsnip, thank you for your opinion.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> jef91: the packages have dependancies which have not been met yet
[18:12] <Cynthia> unclemantis: that's the most likely cause of the error you described, in my experience
[18:12] <ThinkingInBits> Hmm, does anyone know where the configuration file for Apache2 is located?  The one that contains the document root and what not?  I tried httpd.conf in etc/apache2, but the file was blank.  I tried apache2.conf, but this didn't contain anything about my document root.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> jef91: so they will not come down til the dependancies are met
[18:13] <Pici> ThinkingInBits: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[18:13] <ThinkingInBits> thanks
[18:13] <jef91> ActionParsnip how do I see those dependencies?
[18:13] <Pici> ActionParsnip, jef91: And they will never be grabbed if they require new packages if he does not use 'dist-upgrade'
[18:13] <unclemantis> another proccess IS using it, my login balled on me so i want to start over
[18:13] <DrNight> Well, I should be able to workaround this installer fail.
[18:13] <unclemantis> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[18:14] <greggg> hey guys,i would like to ask for some help reguarding the sound on my computer.hardware installed,drivers installed,and sound is all the way up.any tips?
[18:14] <jef91> Ahh dist-upgrade did it Pici thanks
[18:14] <unclemantis> I had a blue screen with an OK and I couldn't click it so i just closed my Term and logged into a new one
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> jef91: not sure dude, the upgrades will coe when they are good and ready
[18:14] <Pici> jef91: you're welcome.
[18:14] <jef91> unclemantis Hit tab and then enter to select that OK message
[18:14] <unclemantis> how do i get back into that other session?
[18:15] <matumba> hey, can anyone tell me, when "ps" shows a process in parentheses? eg. running squid as root, creates a child process with user proxy and ps output shows (squid)
[18:15] <Cynthia> (or just Enter if OK is the only choice and it's red [currently selected])
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> matumba: ps -ef | grep -i squid
[18:15] <Cynthia> matumba: that's squid doing that, it must have some meaning to squid itself - perhaps to indicate the fact that it's not the root squid process
[18:16] <greggg> help with sound please
[18:16] <Cynthia> unclemantis: what were you trying to do before you closed the Terminal instead of navigating to OK with the keyboard?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> !details | greggg
[18:16] <xloosescrewx> ok ActionParsnip I posted the terminal to pastebin
[18:16] <matumba> Cynthia, so it's like execl("...squid", "(squid)", NONE);?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: ok now copy the address bar and paste in here
[18:16] <greggg> ok
[18:17] <Cynthia> matumba: it will still be 'squid' to run it, but it will adjust its "command line" to read '(squid)' if it's not the root process
[18:17] <xloosescrewx> okhttp://pastebin.com/XvyPKrxs
[18:17] <bastid_raZor> unclemantis: you should have used tab to move the highlight to the OK dialog then pressed enter
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: ok great, now I can read what you pasted, you now know how to pastebin :)
[18:17] <Cynthia> matumba: (+) for example, 'ssh' often gives 'ssh: net' and 'ssh: accept' processes
[18:17] <xloosescrewx> ok cool
[18:18] <matumba> Cynthia, thx
[18:18] <Cynthia> greggg: what brand and model is your sound card? (pastebin the output of 'lshw -C sound' from a Terminal)
[18:18] <karma_police> whats the easiest way to format a usb flash drive?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: ok thats FAR too many flash plugins, lets get rid of this mess and install the one package you need. I'll make you a command in pastebin
[18:18] <hmw> karma_police: GParted probably
[18:19] <greggg> having problem with sound,everything seems to be installed,i just dont hear anything.my kinux version is 10.04 lucid
[18:19] <DrNight> Well, forums seem to indicate that some other methods that don't use p# (like nvidia) work fine.  So I'm going to guess that all isw devices require a workaround for use during installation.
[18:19] <DrNight> Oh, well, I'll keep at it.
[18:19] <xloosescrewx> ok Action, Thanks
[18:19] <karma_police> i used to could right click the flash drive icon and format it but that option is no longer there.. i'd like the fix that if its not too incredibly hard. i'm still a noob
[18:20] <Cynthia> greggg: while that is indeed more information, often this type of problem has to do with drivers being unavailable, if you didn't touch the default configuration
[18:20] <hmw> karma_police: that option will probably only show, if the drive is not yet formatted.
[18:20] <Cynthia> greggg: (+) could you either pastebin the output of 'lshw -C sound' from a Terminal, or just say the brand and model of the sound card in here?
[18:20] <greggg> heres the info for sound card
[18:21] <greggg>  description: Audio device
[18:21] <greggg>        product: N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[18:21] <greggg>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[18:21] <greggg>        physical id: 1b
[18:21] <greggg>        bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[18:21] <FloodBot4> greggg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <greggg>        version: 01
[18:21] <karma_police> its has been formatted.. i can format it with gparted.. i just don't have it in the rt click menu like i used to
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: http://www.pastie.org/967991
[18:22] <greggg> product: N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[18:22] <greggg>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[18:22] <xloosescrewx> ok Action thanks
[18:22] <plazia> Anyone else have the problem where sometimes you boot up and your NTFS partitions are visible/mountable and other times you boot up and they are not?
[18:22] <yizi> can anyone help me get openvpn working on ubuntu server?
[18:22] <bezdomni> Yes, I find it is always a problem when I boot up and NTFS partitions are visible. :P
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: that will remove all the many flash plugins you have then install 64bit native flash which runs better on your 64bit ubuntu
[18:23] <hmw> plazia: that is uncommon
[18:23] <plazia> bezdomni, :)
[18:23] <hmw> bezdomni: it might be a bad idea to use sarcasm in here
[18:23] <plazia> hmw, but it happens?
[18:23] <unclemantis> so how do i get back to my other session?
[18:23] <plazia> yeah sarcasm isn't easily conveyed over a textual medium.
[18:23] <Cynthia> greggg: the driver should be installed, then; I had an Intel ICH7 audio chipset last year and it worked. Try going to System / Preferences / Sound and see if anything obvious is missing, for example that Hardware has the right card selected, Output has the right type of output (analog or digital), and Applications has no Mute tick for the application you're trying to use
[18:23] <hmw> plazia: not that i know about it. Do you have SCSI drives?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> plazia: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[18:24] <plazia> well they're all sata so sorta count as scsi I guess.
[18:24] <yizi> anyone got a good guide for openvpn?
[18:24] <bezdomni> plazia: I've never encoutered such a problem - but intuitively I'm thinking maybe that problem could be with your BIOS?
[18:24] <plazia> in the sense that hdparm requires you to do /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda.
[18:24] <karma_police> is there a tutorial fo how to use the nautilus actions?
[18:24] <plazia> it only happens about 1 out of every 5 bootups.
[18:24] <bezdomni> karma_police - I think there is a help menu with a decent tutorial.
[18:25] <hmw> plazia: i was thinking on a race condition, but i believe, that is uncommon with modern sata
[18:25] <plazia> hmw, bezdomni the thing is I've noticed it's not just relegated to ntfs partition. a usb flash drive will not mount either.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-add-items-to-the-right-click-menu-in-nautilus/
[18:25] <bezdomni> plazia - that is bizarre.
[18:25] <guitar-maniac> help! I just did ubuntu clean install 10,04. and now my biggest resulotion is 640xetc. everything worked fine when i upgraded
[18:25] <yizi> anyone installed OPENVPN before?
[18:25] <greggg> where do i find preferences?its not in the drop down "system" menu.
[18:25] <hmw> plazia: perhaps the BIOS theory applies. I can't tell.
[18:25] <plazia> I can't fathom what the frack it is.
[18:25] <dejavou42> well crap. I don't know what happened, but my gnome desktop isn't showing up, but the panels are. anyone know what I should check?
[18:25] <xloosescrewx> ok ActionParsnips, do I need to do anything else? save, or exit?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> xloosescrewx: restart your browser
[18:26] <bezdomni> Did you check /etc/fstab for anything out of the ordinary?
[18:26] <Cynthia> guitar-maniac: details details! :) what is the brand and model of your graphics chipset, and does 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' output anything?
[18:26] <hmw> dejavou42: try "killall nautilus"
[18:26] <xloosescrewx> ok
[18:26] <jiffe> how can I find out what configure options were used to build a package?
[18:26] <Cynthia> greggg: Are you using GNOME?
[18:26] <guitar-maniac> Cynthia, can i paste the information to you in private, hard to follow with this resolution?
[18:26] <greggg> yes
[18:26] <Waggy> get list
[18:27] <b0n1> hi why are some poeple uploading illegal files on rapidshare and want that other poeple download them ?
[18:27] <dejavou42> anyone know why the gnome desktop wouldn't show up, but panels would?
[18:27] <Cynthia> guitar-maniac: you could always reduce the font size a bit, I guess ;) and I prefer pastebin-linking to the channel
[18:27] <karma_police> what all programs are available that format usb flash drives? i know of gparted
[18:27] <b0n1> do they get money for that?
[18:27] <Pici> !offtopic | b0n1
[18:27] <guitar-maniac> ok ill try that :D:D
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> b0n1: its the nature of the world
[18:27] <b0n1> what do you mean ActionParsnip ?
[18:27] <b0n1> what profit do they make if other poeple download their uploaded stuff ?
[18:28] <hmw> dejavou42: try "killall nautilus"
[18:28] <guitar-maniac> long info came with that cat command
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> b0n1: there will always be illegal uses of certain services and software, its the law of statistics
[18:28] <dejavou42> hmw: nothing happened
[18:28] <guitar-maniac> my graphic card is nvidia 8600gt, worked fine before this clean install..
[18:28] <b0n1> yes but how do uploaders profit ?
[18:28] <guitar-maniac> and yes, i did take the drivers as usual.
[18:28] <greggg> i am using gnome
[18:28] <hmw> dejavou42: do you still see the background image you used to have?
[18:29] <b0n1> in torrent i understand it, because they can download faster if they seed
[18:29] <Pici> ActionParsnip, b0n1: This conversation is not on-topic for the Ubuntu support channel. Please either move to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.  Thanks.
[18:29] <Cynthia> guitar-maniac: clean reinstall, eh. you might have to get back into the Driver Manager (System / Administration / Hardware Drivers) to install the driver again
[18:29] <dejavou42> hmw: nvm, If I would have moved my windows, I would have seen the icons appeared again. Thanks!
[18:29] <b0n1> but on rapidshare and other uploading servers i dont get it
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> b0n1: they dont but they get to give out illegal files easily etc, its like illegal torrents
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gotcha
[18:29] <bastid_raZor> ActionParsnip: -1 for feeding
[18:29] <Cinnamon> Hello kids, this command is cool. rm -rfv /*
[18:29] <guitar-maniac> i installed them after the clean install, there were two optins, i tried them both, but did nothing..
[18:29] <Cynthia> Cinnamon: No.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> bastid_raZor: i eat trolls for breakfast
[18:29] <hmw> dejavou42: sometimes nautlius can crash, killing it causes it to restart itself. Same applies to gnome-panel sometimes
[18:30] <b0n1> ActionParsnip:  can you join #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:30] <ViperBorg> Oh, joy, the trolls are in.
[18:30] <bastid_raZor> ActionParsnip: you're like the mother kitty cat.. toy with the food for the kittens to see how it is done.
[18:30] <dejavou42> hmw: so, why did killing nautilus fix that, I mean I rebooted, which should have killed nautilus anyway right?
[18:30] <Cinnamon> Hello kids, this command is cool. rm -rfv /*
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[18:30] <Glacer> Where can  i get older version of Gdesklet it worked before and this upgrade one on 10.04 does not work the gdesklet
[18:30] <Cynthia> Pici: can we get a ban for Cinnamon please?
[18:30] <Cinnamon> Pici: can we get a ban for Cinnamon please?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Cinnamon: next time, don't bother ok
[18:30] <Cinnamon> Cinnamon: next time, don't bother ok
[18:31] <Cynthia> there, now he said it himself - he should be banned
[18:31] <Cinnamon> there, now he said it himself - he should be banned
[18:31] <hmw> dejavou42: perhaps the problem remains, you will see on your next boot. I just guessed, that your current Nautilus instance might have had some hickup, so killing the process simply restarted it. Perhaps you should reboot and check, if the problem persists.
[18:31] <Cinnamon> dejavou42: perhaps the problem remains, you will see on your next boot. I just guessed, that your current Nautilus instance might have had some hickup, so killing the process simply restarted it. Perhaps you should reboot and check, if th
[18:31] <llutz> !ops | Cinnamon bot
[18:31] <Cinnamon> !ops | Cinnamon bot
[18:31] <Cinnamon> Cinnamon bot: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h0
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> just ignore it, some people are idiots
[18:31] <Cinnamon> just ignore it, some people are idiots
[18:31] <dejavou42> hmw: alright, will do thanks
[18:31] <Cinnamon> hmw: alright, will do thanks
[18:31] <FloodBot4> Cinnamon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <hmw> omg do they send bots to troll us now??
[18:32] <ViperBorg> hmm... everyone say something and cause Cinnamon to be kick banned now?
[18:32] <archwild> who is "they"
[18:32] <hmw> profi trolls lol
[18:32] <ViperBorg> hmw: I guess they do.
[18:33] <ViperBorg> hmw: Trolls are just far too busy to do their own trolling.
[18:33] <hmw> heheheh
[18:33] <hmw> oh my
[18:33] <guitar-maniac> I deleted the driver and try to install it again..
[18:33] <Agu10> hi
[18:33]  * Adityab discovered that Sheldon has switched to ubuntu.
[18:33] <noecc> I have aliases defined in .bash_aliases for me and other user.  They work for me but not  if I sudo su -s /bin/sh otheruser?
[18:33] <hmw> !hi | Agu10
[18:33] <Agu10> how can I deactivate compiz without loosing my configuratino?
[18:34] <Agu10> so that when I activate it again, I have the same effects
[18:34] <hmw> noecc: of course, because the other user has no aliases in their -bashrc files
[18:34] <dejavou42> hmw: yup, same problem as soon as I rebooted, desktop was gone, and when I killed nautilus it came back
[18:34] <gwz> hey i am trying to install limewire but its complaining about sunjava but i cant find it through apt-cache search
[18:34] <jrib> noecc: why are you using such a silly command?  By the way sh is not bash by default
[18:34] <hmw> dejavou42: hmm...
[18:34] <Cynthia> noecc: sudo su -s /bin/bash otheruser
[18:35] <gwz> anyone?
[18:35] <Cynthia> gwz: apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> gwz: limewire runs on java
[18:36] <gwz> i know
[18:36] <gwz> but apt-get install doesnt work
[18:36] <jrib> noecc: just do « su - otheruser »
[18:36] <Cynthia> gwz: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[18:36] <Cynthia> whoops :)
[18:36] <gwz> yuh
[18:36] <gwz> i know , not a total newb at unix
[18:36] <hmw> dejavou42: i can only guess from here on; My theory: Some program, that is loaded on start, makes Nautilus crash. Perhaps you get lucky and find something in your autostarts. I have a similar problem; I have to kill gnome-panel, since some indicator elements are drawn totally white and are inactive... didnt find a solution. Perhaps there is a bug?
[18:36] <gwz> ackage sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:36] <Cynthia> gwz: fair enough
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !java | gwz
[18:36] <Cynthia> > ';' expected: { | gwz }
[18:36] <Cynthia> > illegal start of expression: { | gwz }
[18:36] <jrib> gwz: it should be in canonical's partner repository
[18:36] <Cynthia> oi
[18:36] <Cynthia> sorry for that!
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> gwz: then you'd know to enable the extra repos ;)
[18:37]  * jrib wonders what just happened
[18:37] <dejavou42> hmw: where does nautilus store log files?
[18:37] <dejavou42> /var/log?
[18:37] <Cynthia> !java > Cynthia
[18:37] <Cynthia> ok good
[18:37] <hmw> dejavou42: good question, don't know, if it logs at all
[18:37] <sanu01> can someone tell me what version of network manager is being used in ubuntu?
[18:37] <Cynthia> that's a command I have for other channels >_< anyway, see what ubottu said about Java, gwz
[18:37] <gwz> yuh got it
[18:37] <gwz> thanks
[18:38] <jrib> sanu01: packages.ubuntu.com should tell you if you aren't using ubuntu.  If you are, use apt-cache policy
[18:38] <hmw> dejavou42: I am sorry, but I am stuck here, too. :(
[18:38] <sanu01> cause i havent installed it
[18:38] <xnox> google open-sources WebM & VP8 http://www.webmproject.org/tools/
[18:39] <Pici> xnox: What?
[18:39] <jrib> xnox: please don't advertise here
[18:39] <xnox> it's not advertisement =)
[18:39] <Cynthia> it was probably an /amsg with that piece of news
[18:39] <jrib> xnox: ... or post random links for some other reason
[18:39] <xnox> no it was not amsg
[18:39] <LedHed> sometimes when I do an 'apt-get update'  the downloads stall out, or slow to 1kbps, is there a way to prevent this (and no its not my internet connection)
[18:39] <Cynthia> ah mk
[18:39] <hmw> dejavou42: Perhaps you can find out, if something happened before that error started happening; Did you update? Install software? Change Themes? Tweak your system in some way?
[18:39] <Pici> xnox: This is a support channel, are you asking a question about that?
[18:39] <dejavou42> hmw: just looked, nautilus doesn't seem to have a log
[18:40] <hmw> dejavou42: what were the last things you did in general?
[18:40] <dejavou42> hmw: that's the weird part, its pretty much a new install with no extra start up applications yet or anything
[18:40] <xnox> Pici, jrib sorry this was meant for #ubuntu-offtopic click error
[18:40] <jrib> xnox: k
[18:40] <bastid_raZor> LedHed: you could change mirrors..  System > Administration > Software Sources
[18:40] <dejavou42> the last thing i did before the problem was install a piece of software on wine, but I also uninstalled it
[18:41] <hmw> dejavou42: very weird theory: bad sector ate part of your Nautilus
[18:41] <dejavou42> hmw: shouldn't be, its a fairly new hard drive too.
[18:41] <hmw> dejavou42: your'e probably right. Is it full moon again?
[18:42] <dejavou42> hmw: :) feels like its getting close...
[18:42] <Cynthia> hmw: lol :) next question is did a butterfly flap its wings near your hard drive? (xkcd comic)
[18:42] <noecc> jrib: other user  is for application and has no pw.  In /etc/passwd for other user is /bin/bash
[18:42] <hmw> dejavou42: my bug must either be bad luck or something in the home dir, which i virtually didnt touch. not in relevant areas at least...
[18:42] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: whats the problem btw? and nautilus might have a log did you check in /var/?
[18:42] <gartral|p> In lubuntu, how do you set global proxy configs?
[18:43] <rab13s> oops
[18:43] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: nautilus crashes on boot, which makes the gnome desktop disappear, and I have to kill nautilus to get the desktop back
[18:43] <aeon-ltd> gartral|p: if your using network manager check there, if your using wicd check there
[18:44] <Cynthia> gartral|p: Lubuntu isn't supported by Canonical, and you might have better luck asking their support channel than this one
[18:44] <rab13s> hahahah
[18:44] <lorenzosu> anyone expriencing 'blu skin' and all wrong colours with webcam on karmic (all web.cam apps)?
[18:44] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: anything that might conflict with it at boot?
[18:44] <Roxxx85> ciao a tutti
[18:44] <Pici> !it | Roxxx85
[18:44] <gartral|p> Cynthia, I'm literally the only person in that channel I think. That's why I asked here...
[18:45] <Roxxx85> ok thanks sorry
[18:45] <Cynthia> lorenzosu: you might need to adjust the color balance first
[18:45] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: its a new install, and the only changes are adding wine, setting up drivers for nvidia card, and enabling compiz
[18:45] <hmw> aeon-ltd: i have a somewhat similar bug; i need to kill gnome-panel after boot. Some elements are drawn as white boxes and are disabled until i kill the panel... sound familiar?
[18:45] <lorenzosu> Cynthia, can I do that system-wide? I know I can do it in cheese, but can't do it on skype
[18:45] <webroasters> hey guys
[18:45] <Shepry> HEY KIDS, TRY RM -RFV /*
[18:46] <Cynthia> gartral|p: unless someone knows how to deal with LXDE (Lightweight X Desktop Environment) in here, I don't think you'll find your answer. For regular Ubuntu with GNOME it's System / Preferences / Network Proxy.
[18:46] <Cynthia> !danger
[18:46] <dejavou42> hmw: what applets show up white?
[18:46] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: go to start up items on nautilus add "sleep 5 &&" before nautilus desktop, it will set a delay before launching nautilus
[18:46] <ritu> ;-3*06/;3
[18:46] <ritu> ftyy52
[18:46] <hmw> dejavou42: it evolved; mainly the network manager, sometimes i had a second volume icon, and lately that thing showing my name in full as also that showing my user name
[18:47] <webroasters> Problem: Skype is working, and I can call out to real numbers, but the voice that that person hears is very crackly and sometimes it drops the signal... However, when I use windows xp and skype, everything works correctly. Same computer, etc. Dual boot.
[18:47] <Cynthia> ritu: Please switch to another window while you're cleaning your keyboard
[18:47] <ritu> r6nan
[18:47] <squisher> hi everyone, is there an easy way to prepare packages for both karmic and lucid in a ppa? Or do I have to have separate changelogs
[18:47] <aeon-ltd> Cynthia: btw network settings are synonymous between DEs and WMs, whatever gui front you use its the same
[18:47] <gartral|p> Not there.....
[18:47] <aeon-ltd> gartral|p: do you use network manager?
[18:47] <Cynthia> aeon-ltd: ah. I thought LXDE was a complete desktop replacement
[18:47] <Pici> squisher: This might be more appropriate for #launchpad or #ubuntu-packaging
[18:48] <tamir> Hi i use ubuntu 10.04 and I want to watch a .mkv with softsubs from right to left... i tried : totem vlc MPlayer SMPlayer with no luck Im pretty sure i got it working on 9.10 cant remember how ...
[18:48] <squisher> Pici, thanks for the pointer
[18:48] <aeon-ltd> Cynthia: i don't use LXDE but i think it uses network manager just like gnome
[18:48] <LucidGuy> profile.d issue:  I have a bunch of environment variables set within /etc/profile.d/script.sh which work fine when the user logs into the console.  But when they login via X the variables are not set.  Any ideas?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Cynthia: its a different desktop environment instead of gnome+metacity you can use LXDE+openbox
[18:48] <gartral|p> Aeon-ltd yea..
[18:48] <pozican> Does 9.10 have bash completion out of the box?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Cynthia: you can use network manaer in any DE you like, as well as LXDE
[18:48] <aeon-ltd> gartral|p: it should be there, search around
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> pozican: yes
[18:49] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: am I suppose to see "nautilus desktop" in startup applications?
[18:49] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: or similar
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> pozican: if yours doesnt there a section in ~/.bashrc to uncomment
[18:49] <hmw> dejavou42: did you say you use 9.10
[18:49] <Cynthia> ActionParsnip: I was elaborating on gartral|p 's question about network proxying, not Network-Manager
[18:49] <gartral|p> Aeon not there.. its a cutback network manager...
[18:49] <Cynthia> in GNOME I know where it's located, but not in LXDE
[18:49] <abuayyoub> howdy, I was wondering if someone could help me. I installed lucid recently with Wubi to use as a duel boot with windows 7 but I find I dont use Windows at all anymore and I want to make ubun2 my only OS. Is there a way I can migrate to a full install without having to format my HD? Also this is all done on a single windows C: Partition ( stupid I know )
[18:49] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: btw my solution will just offset the problem not solve it
[18:50] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: the only thing close to that is remote desktop  which has nothing to do with nautilus.
[18:50] <gartral|p> Cynthia my issue is this comp only has tethering from my droid...
[18:50] <dejavou42> hmw: 10.04
[18:50] <pozican> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to support someone - not really my install
[18:50] <lorenzosu> Actually it seems a skype only problem
[18:50] <gartral|p> Cynthia.. I'm giving up for now, it's not miscrit
[18:50] <spezticle> anybody know about a common resource for finding local ubuntu groups?
[18:50] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: anything on the lines of nautilus at all?
[18:51] <hmw> spezticle: try your language's ubuntu channel... what is your native language?
[18:51] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: nope
[18:51] <spezticle> english
[18:51] <spezticle> hmw: english
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Cynthia: i think its under Menu -> network   but if you know the command to launch it you can from ALT+F2 dialogue
[18:52] <hmw> spezticle: well... in this case youre already in that channel ./°  uhm... a web search, or #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[18:52] <moreia> uff. Question: windowskey-E does this pretty thing where it shows all my workspaces. Is there a variation on that to show applications. Also, what is doing that? Gnome? Compiz? What component am I using?
[18:52] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: any other start up manager you could check with?
[18:52] <Pici> spezticle: What locality?
[18:52] <Glacer> anybody got a link to the older Gdesklet, mine took a update and no it will not start.
[18:52] <Cynthia> moreia: Compiz. Try installing 'compiz-config-gnome' to see all the options available.
[18:52] <rsullivan> can't seem to find the emacs-extras package for ubuntu 10.04 amd64
[18:52] <Loshki> spezticle: something here maybe? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[18:52] <moreia> Cynthia: Thanks!
[18:53] <hmw> moreia: it is Compiz. You might be looking for that expose like feature, checkout modules "scale" and "scale addons"
[18:53] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: such as?
[18:53] <TKtg1> aeon-ltd: such as?
[18:53] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: you will probably need to boot into an Ubuntu (or GParted) LiveCD to make a partition large enough to hold the files from your Wubi installation, by resizing your C: to be that much smaller. E.g. if your partition is NTFS 300 GB and your Wubi files 5 GB, you'd need to resize C: to 295
[18:53] <aendruk> A proprietary 32-bit program appears to be looking only in /usr/lib on my 64-bit system; How can I tell it to use the correct library that is installed in /usr/lib32?
[18:53] <TKtg1> abuayyoub: you will probably need to boot into an Ubuntu (or GParted) LiveCD to make a partition large enough to hold the files from your Wubi installation, by resizing your C: to be that much smaller. E.g. if your partition is NTFS 300 G
[18:53] <diffrant> hi. i am getting a new corei7 system assembled tomorrow. it will be compatible with ubuntu latest right? I don't have much extra stuff though, except this graphics card http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us.html
[18:53] <TKtg1> hi. i am getting a new corei7 system assembled tomorrow. it will be compatible with ubuntu latest right? I don't have much extra stuff though, except this graphics card http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us.html
[18:53] <spezticle> Loshki: yeah, loco was a term i read in the forums but google searching the term wasn't helpful for ubuntu lol
[18:53] <moreia> hmw: thanks!
[18:53] <TKtg1> Loshki: yeah, loco was a term i read in the forums but google searching the term wasn't helpful for ubuntu lol
[18:53] <TKtg1> hmw: thanks!
[18:53] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: theres a session manager that displays some items at boot
[18:54] <l3iohazard> How do I stop the top and bottom bar spanning both monitors?
[18:54] <l3iohazard> If I have dual monitors
[18:55] <l3iohazard> Anyone?
[18:55] <hmw> l3iohazard: i think, that is not trivial. You could try using the "expand" and "autohide" feature of the panel, or place it in vertical position
[18:55] <scuffed> hello
[18:55] <l3iohazard> ok
[18:55] <moreia> l3iohazar: My panels don't span mult displays.
[18:55] <hmw> l3iohazard: you could also remove it completly and use a dock, perhaps kairo-dock
[18:55] <abuayyoub> TKtg1 hi, thanks. It seems a bit complicated. I have one partition I believe I set the wubi install to something like 18gb on a 300 gb disk. Do I have to use the live cd or can I just do if from Gparted right now?
[18:55] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me about java? I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. Does that cover java?
[18:55] <scuffed> can someone help me with my atheros problem?
[18:55] <Nilos> brb
[18:55] <livingdaylight> !java
[18:55] <benkevan> !hi | scuffed
[18:55] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: TKtg1 was only repeating my message, and he was banned
[18:55] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: I'm still getting use to the new menus in 10.04, but as far as I know, there is the startup-applications (which replaced the old sessions menu option) and I can use a terminal scheduler to run things, but other than that I do not know of another place where start up applications might be...
[18:56] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: yes it should install java
[18:56] <hmw> moreia: l3iohazard: it will span both screens in xinerama mode, i think, or in the other mode, my bad memory. one mode maximizes to both screens.
[18:56] <abuayyoub> oh, sorry :) Thanks Cynthia
[18:56] <benkevan> !hi | sebsebseb
[18:56] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: I suppose I could try msconfig..... :)
[18:56] <sebsebseb> benkevan: hi
[18:56] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: you can resize them in GParted... right now? You mean from Wubi or from the GParted LiveCD? (gparted.sourceforge.net)
[18:56] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: oh wait can you still browse nautilus?
[18:56] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: show hidden files and click on xinitrc
[18:56] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: yeah, I just have to kill nautilus after boot
[18:57] <razib> In One of my user account GNOME desktop is not woking, is there any way to reload or repair it?
[18:57] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, when i go to gokgs.com webstart doesn't let me play in Chromium. Says that java plugin is missing?
[18:57] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: a bit of explanation is in order. Your "partition" for Wubi is in fact just a file on Windows, that file having a filesystem of its own. You'll need to extract that "file" into an actual partition and make it bootable.
[18:57] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, From my ubuntu install. Which im logged into right now. ( I have two boot selections at startup win 7 and ubuntu)
[18:57] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, Ok, I got you.
[18:57] <sebsebseb> razib: probably
[18:58] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: The Ubuntu install you're using can't edit partitions. It'll only see from within that file. You'll need to boot into a real LiveCD
[18:58] <valinux> test
[18:58] <sebsebseb> razib: if you move/delete the correct .folders and then re load the account,  I guess it  will work properly again
[18:58] <sebsebseb> razib: hidden .folders in Home
[18:58] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: are you viewing xinitrc now?
[18:58] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, ok, so boot into the live CD and make a Partition big enough to hold my wubi files
[18:58] <scuffed> can anyone help me with my atheros problem im having?
[18:58] <Nilos> bk
[18:58] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: ok the only thing in that file is . /etc/X11/xsession
[18:59] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: no in your home directory show hidden files there should be a xinitrc
[18:59] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: I should say the only thing not commented out
[18:59] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: hold up, there might be an automatic way to do it. read the instructions carefully, because I don't know if it'll delete data or try to preserve it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1410208
[18:59] <razib> .fokders i mean hidden folders?
[18:59] <Nilos> I need help getting a wireless driver to work.I have used ndisgtk to install the driver, and the device is seen in lsusb, but the device has not been configured.
[18:59] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, ok. Because if it's  just a matter of making a big enough partition i could just boot into windows and use partition magic or something.
[19:00] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: nope, there isn't a .xinitrc in home
[19:00] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, I see now that sun-java is not installed. Maybe itis that ubuntu-restricted-extras installs some kind of java plugin but not the entire sun-java packaage. Or maybe even some free version, but not one that makes my java site work
[19:00] <sebsebseb> razib: view > show hidden files and folders
[19:00] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: you could do that, yes. here's another thread about this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784918
[19:00] <lorenzosu> Cynthia, Just for the record... the command for skype reported on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Skype worked.
[19:00] <sebsebseb> razib: and then the hidden dot folders show in home
[19:00] <abuayyoub> Cynthia,  haha Glad that u'm not the only one who's made this mistake :)
[19:00] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: the only xinitrc is in /etc/x11/xinit
[19:00] <sebsebseb> razib: when you told it to show them for home
[19:00] <lorenzosu> Cynthia, Thanks for yor help anyway.
[19:00] <hmw> !java | livingdaylight
[19:01] <Cynthia> lorenzosu: well, I didn't do much :p
[19:01] <lorenzosu> Cynthia, :)
[19:01] <sebsebseb> razib: also you could get rid of the old Gnome folders, and copy in from a new user account, and then it will probably work
[19:01] <razib> thank you I will try your solution
[19:01] <sebsebseb> razib: or so start over with a new account, and copy in whatever you want from the old
[19:01] <livingdaylight> hmw, just installed it. but do you know what java is installed in ubuntu-restricted-extras if not the sun-java package?
[19:02] <scuffed> Hello Everyone, how do i ask for help in here?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight: no
[19:02] <ThinkingInBits> So, all of the files I upload to apache through my ftp user are only chmoded as -rw------- is this the default for a reason?  Also, I was getting access denied unless I set my www to 777, any ideas?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight: java is in the partner repo in Lucid
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !java  | livingdaylight
[19:02] <hmw> livingdaylight: i don't know, but I guess it must be a version not from sun... I see people advinsing !java often here
[19:02] <AhmedBH> Hi, WHen i run update from terminal i get this error at the end "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[19:02] <AhmedBH> " how do i get eid from it
[19:02] <aeon-ltd> dejavou42: easier solution! make a startup item with the command "killall nautilus" and another command with "sleep 3 && nautilus", the only problem with this solution is that it will be a 3 second delay until the icons reappear again, but its usable till you find a better solution
[19:02] <Cynthia> scuffed: Just ask the question you need. Provide details relevant to the problem, such as versions of software, brands and models of hardware, etc.
[19:03] <hmw> aeon-ltd: that is so cheap. I was thinking to do so on my pc, too... :((
[19:03] <dejavou42> aeon-ltd: I'll give it a go...
[19:03] <livingdaylight> hmw, i came to expect java in the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, but agues that is one I have to do myself
[19:03] <aeon-ltd> hmw: you have the same problem?
[19:03] <rabbit1> forgot password for .rar file, whats the solution?
[19:03] <scuffed> Atheros has VERY low signal im running 10.04 driver ath9k
[19:04] <claude23> Ok so i have the USB Persistant, but it is a .tar file. How do I use this?
[19:04] <hmw> aeon-ltd: not exactly. I get some applets drawn in total white and dysfunctional on boot, until killall gnome-panel. Seems random.
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: personally I always use the 64bit .bin from sun.com and use that.
[19:04] <rsullivan> anyone know the emacs theme that normally comes with emacs-extra package?
[19:04] <Cynthia> rabbit1: This is definitely not the channel for that - please google "rar password recovery"
[19:04] <aeon-ltd> meh..........
[19:05] <Glacer> anybody got a link to the older Gdesklet, mine took a update and no it will not start.
[19:05] <dejavou42> hmw: do you have compiz installed?
[19:05] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, ok, you go directly... I have a 32-bit system so, ubuntu's repository suits me
[19:05] <hmw> dejavou42: yes (and Karmic)
[19:05] <Nilos> I need help getting a wireless driver to work.I have used ndisgtk to install the driver, and the device is seen in lsusb, but the device has not been configured.Where can I find the toold I need?
[19:05] <Cynthia> claude23: extract the .tar file, it's just an archive. On the command-line: 'tar xvf TARFILE' after changing to the directory into which you want to extract the files. On a GUI, double-click the .tar file and drag-and-drop the files to the right folder
[19:05] <Aazoris> I need some help please. I am really new to Linux yet alone Ubuntu.. If anyone can help me please pm me
[19:05] <sebsebseb> !ask | Aazoris
[19:06] <Cynthia> Aazoris: Please try to describe the problem in here
[19:06] <hmw> dejavou42: it just started 2 days ago. Retrieving the partition image did not help, so it must be in /home, but I can't really imagine, how manipulating some text files (no confs) can cause that
[19:06] <x2xx2nd> Hey everybody.... everytime i restart my PC the screen resolution returns from 1280x1024 to the default resolution(auto).... anytime i try to save the new resolution to the xorg file im not allowed even if i do gksudo nvidia-settings.... so whats the solution?????!
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: absolutely. some 64bit plugins go through nspluginwrapper which I think is messy considering native plugins exist rather than using 32bit via a wrapper
[19:06] <dejavou42> hmw: just a hunch here, as I know that compiz causes a lot of problems. try backing up your compiz preferences, purging compiz, and see if the problem goes away.
[19:06] <Cynthia> You have the bonus of not having to ask the question to multiple people in query if one says they don't know how to help.
[19:06] <hmw> dejavou42: oookay
[19:07] <hmw> dejavou42: though it ran stable for quite a while.. but who knows... I believe Ubuntu can do anything.
[19:07] <sebsebseb> !pm > Aazoris
[19:07] <randerz> can someone help me install gcc-4.2 and g++-4.2 on 10.04? I see these packages have been obsoleted
[19:08] <Cynthia> claude23: I provided two ways to extract that file in here, the programs are either 'tar' or 'file-roller'
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> x2xx2nd: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; then run: gksudo nvidia-settings   save the config as you wish then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to review, if the res is wrong then change it. don't use auto in nvidia-settings  if the res you want isnt present and you can manually set the res in xorg.conf by modifying the values for the resolution
[19:08] <Cynthia> (From PM)
[19:08] <dejavou42> hmw: I have had compiz randomly cause problems for me in the past, and they have popped up random like that too.
[19:08] <Aazoris> Kind of hard with the lines moving so fast, I bought a vps a week ago I had Ubuntu 10.04 installed and I am wandering is ther a for like a desktop/window view other than a DOS view? If so, how would I go about having it installed?
[19:08] <hmw> dejavou42: i just can disable desktop effects and see, if it makes the whiteness go away
[19:09] <x2xx2nd> ActionParsnip: thanks buddy ill try it
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Aazoris: this channel is pretty quite at the moment,  plus to make things easier when it's busy or busyish like now,  when chatting to people directly we use tab :)
[19:09] <dejavou42> hmw: true but you may have to reload the panel after you disable compiz
[19:09] <sebsebseb> !tab | Aazoris
[19:09] <hmw> dejavou42: i will reboot
[19:09] <dejavou42> hmw: ok
[19:09] <Cynthia> AAzoris: There is one, and you could install it with 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' on your VPS, however you'd also have to install VNC server packages
[19:10] <sebsebseb> Aazoris: plu theres a way to turn off the join and leave messages and such, but that depends on your client
[19:10] <ThinkingInBits> Hey guys, any idea why the files my FTP user uploads to the server are set with very low permissions? (-rw-------)  also, why the permissions of my /var/www have to be set to 777 just to allow access?
[19:10] <Cynthia> Aazoris (+): Or an SSH server configured to redirect X windows. Otherwise you couldn't access the graphical interface at all.
[19:10] <sebsebseb> pluss
[19:10] <Aazoris> Ok give me one sec im going to try and do that now
[19:10] <MPX> I've got a question
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !ask | MPX
[19:11] <MPX> If Ubuntu locks up, say, a game locks up, and CTRL + ALT + F1 will not work
[19:11] <MPX> I've heard that linux is virtually crash proof
[19:11] <sebsebseb> MPX: full screen game, or just in a window?
[19:11] <MPX> Full screen
[19:11] <sebsebseb> MPX: yeah a Linux distro is unlikely to crash, however some of the apps will at times
[19:11] <MPX> Is there any other keys that can bring me out to a terminal?
[19:11] <Soyo> !mpx | If you can get a terminal open and run top you can close it.
[19:12] <Soyo> !mpx | Alt+Tab
[19:12] <MPX> I know soyo, but let's say that I can't and that CTRL + ALT + F1 does nothing
[19:12] <MPX> Nor Alt + Tab
[19:12] <sebsebseb> MPX: you can do xkill in a terminal and click on an app to close it, but yeah if your in full screen, how you going to get in the termianl? :D
[19:12] <Cynthia> All of MPX's terminals are inaccessible, I think.
[19:12] <SmartViking> Does not CTRL + ATL + F1 always work?
[19:12] <MPX> I heard about SYSREQ keys to press or something
[19:12] <sebsebseb> MPX: also if you know the name of a package, you could for example killall firefox
[19:12] <MPX> No smartviking
[19:12] <Soyo> why I am putting an exclamation point on your name I don't know
[19:12] <MPX> I know all this sebsebseb
[19:13] <Wizzup> I presume there's no ppa yet for firefox w/webm? :)
[19:13] <Aazoris> Ok you mean something like AceAxe
[19:13] <MPX> But I'm for example talking about a fullscreen game that has crashed, leaving me with a black screen, with a moving mouse cursor
[19:13] <crazy6> join #kubuntu
[19:13] <Cynthia> Well MPX, you could try Alt+SysRQ+[R,E,I,S,U,B] to force restart
[19:13] <crazy6> whoops
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Wizzup: whats webm ?
[19:13] <MPX> and ALT + TAB (CTRL + f1) does not work
[19:13] <sebsebseb> MPX: well in that case, I guess its time to use the computers power button, and switch it off like that
[19:13] <Wizzup> ActionParsnip: Google just opened VP8 video codec! :) http://www.webmproject.org/users/
[19:13] <jad> Hello, I'm not sure this is the right place to post this, but there's something unusual is happening, my fan keeps whirring for like 10 seconds every minute. Its weird cuz cpu usage is less than 10% and cpu temperature is pretty low (50C)
[19:13] <MPX> That was it Cynthia thanks :D But is there not a key combo exept for CTRL + ALT + f1 that will bring me to a terminal?
[19:13] <crazy6> OK, so, how do I mount an ecryptfs home folder from and older user account? I know the passphrase, and all
[19:13] <scuffed> does anyone in here know what to do with the Atheros Chip?
[19:13] <Cynthia> MPX: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should be the key combo bringing you to one
[19:13] <Soyo> mpx | ctrl+c?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Wizzup: no idea what that is but...er....cool
[19:14] <claude23> Ok. How can I extract a TAR file in windows?
[19:14] <sebsebseb> jad: try ##hardware
[19:14] <MPX> Cynthia: But if that does not work, but SYSREQ works...
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> claude23: winrar can do it
[19:14] <MPX> Is there not another one that can bring me into a safe shell?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> !windows | claude23
[19:14] <Wizzup> ActionParsnip: It's a free codec that's better than h.264, and firefox has picked up support for it
[19:14] <SmartViking> jad i guess thats why ur cpu temperature is prettu low
[19:14] <mikeliss> Anybody know where errors from things started at boot go?
[19:14] <AndroUser> syslog
[19:14] <omfarka> hello, i installed kmplayer but i can't play any music and video files
[19:14] <theseb> anyone notice cron doesn't WORK in LATEST ubuntu version Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Wizzup: i'm not familiar with codecs for video, its of very little interest to me
[19:14] <jad> ##hardware
[19:14] <omfarka> i'm using ubuntu 10.04
[19:14] <scuffed> how come i cannot install the jaunty-backports?
[19:14] <jad> sorry, it looked like an irc command
[19:14] <omfarka> what's the problem?
[19:15] <sebsebseb> jad: /join ##hardware  or just click the link depending on your client
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> scuffed: do you have the right repo enabled
[19:15] <jad> oh ...
[19:15] <jad> sorry, i feel so stupid
[19:15] <scuffed> exactly which repo would that be?
[19:15] <JesusMcCloud> hello i have lucid installed on my laptop (whixh has a synaptics multitouch touchpad) i know that hal got dropped... my touchpad is recognized as a logitech mouse, how can i fix this?
[19:15] <claude23> yes windows.. theni'll get this done
[19:15] <Agu10> how can I turn compiz off, so that when I turn it on, it uses the same configuration?
[19:15] <sebsebseb> jad: nevermind
[19:15] <Cynthia> MPX: I don't know of one. Maybe someone else does. (MPX wants to access a terminal from a frozen GUI (virtual terminal 7) and the other VTs are inaccessible. Perhaps a restart of X is in order... Ctrl+alt+Backspace?)
[19:15] <Agu10> I mean without changing the effects config and what effect is ON and OFF
[19:15] <sebsebseb> jad: people have done much more stupid things in here :D
[19:15] <scuffed> i added the deb ##### jaunty-backports main universe multiverse and restricted
[19:15] <Cynthia> but C+A+Backspace is disabled by default since Jaunty
[19:15] <jad> yeah i know
[19:15] <hmw> dejavou42: after disabling and rebooting, the bug was no longer, now reenabled and reimported my compiz settings, still no bug. Perhaps that did it.
[19:16] <MPX> CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE...I thought that was disabled in the newer UBUNTU distros....how can I re-enable that key combo?
[19:16] <Loshki> theseb: I've never seen anyone else claim that cron is broken in 10.04...
[19:16] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, are you still here? I was wondering if you knew if it were possible to make my wubi install bigger? It seems like alot of hassle just to remove windows
[19:16] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: uhmm
[19:16] <hmw> Cynthia: it's now alt-sysrq-k
[19:16] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: Wubi needs to run inside Windows
[19:16] <MPX> hmw, will that restart x?
[19:16] <leonesardo> ciao
[19:16] <hmw> mpx right
[19:16] <leonesardo> !list
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> scuffed: check in software sources to make sure all is ok
[19:16] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: so if you want to get rid of Windows, well there is some program that I have never used that will convert a Wubi install into a real partition.  or just use the Live CD and install with a real partition :)
[19:16] <MPX> hmw, that's the one I'm looking for, thanks :)
[19:16] <kraut> what's the best way to change the splash screen?
[19:16] <scuffed> which i the repo i need to add for that?
[19:17] <Cynthia> MPX: You'd have to be able to run 'sudo dontzap' or something. So you'll need to have a terminal first, and then you can C+A+Backspace for the next crashes
[19:17] <dejavou42> hmw: compiz is really kind of dirty although nice :) it's kind of like those sour patch kids commercials.....
[19:17] <omfarka> is there anybody? why i can play music and video  on kmplayer or amarok while i'm at ubuntu 10.04
[19:17] <scuffed> ive added all kinds of repos
[19:17] <sebsebseb> kraut: the log in screen you mean or?
[19:17] <jungli> how to add more disk space ?
[19:17] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: Do you have an external hard drive, or at least more storage than the hard drive you're working off of?
[19:17] <scuffed> i and new to ubuntu but not computer illiterate, i can fumble around in here just trying to get more use to it
[19:17] <Nilos> I need help getting a wireless driver to work.I have used ndisgtk to install the driver, and the device is seen in lsusb, but the device has not been configured.Where can I find the tools I need?
[19:17] <kraut> sebsebseb: no, the boot splash
[19:17] <Soyo> MPX: that SysRq allows you talk basically right to the kernel without going through anything else (i.e. a frozen gui)
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> MPX: Cynthia: its also a config item in the keyboard section in preferences
[19:18] <MPX> It should be an easy way to get into a safe terminal with root access if say X crashes and all Virtual Terminals were inaccessible
[19:18] <Sonderblade> for some reason the initrd images on my ubuntu system has disappeared, so the computer wont boot. what is the best way to repair the system?
[19:18] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: It's much easier to move files around if you can just copy what you want elsewhere, then wipe everything to reinstall just that.
[19:18] <hmw> dejavou42: if this really was it, that was the first time in 2 years, i had compiz do so weird things... i mean those white boxes didnt only look white, they were completely disabled, which makes me wonder a bit. I couldnt live without compiz, it is the only fast thing in Ubuntu :-)
[19:18] <MPX> Soyo, SysReq + K right?
[19:18] <Glacer> Hello, has anyone got Gdesklet to work on 10.04? mine took a update and now it will not start.
[19:18] <abuayyoub> sebsebseb, yes, I understand it needs windows. The problem is I only set my ubuntu partition ( wubi) to 18gb which is filled by now. The rest of the disk has windows file and storage. I would just like to make it bigger so I don't tun into space problems.
[19:18] <sebsebseb> scuffed: What are you trying to install?
[19:18] <scuffed> linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[19:18] <kraut> !splash
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: launch it from terminal to get outputs, these should help diagnose
[19:18] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: I don't think you can do that with Wubi
[19:18] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: or not easilly anyway
[19:18] <Soyo> MPX: http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm
[19:19] <MPX> Soyo, Thanks :)
[19:19] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, I don't mind booting from Wubi, problem is my / partition is too small, if I could just make it bigger i'm cool
[19:19] <Glacer> ActionParsnip, it doesnt connect in terminal
[19:19] <dejavou42> hmw: I know I love it too, and wouldn't do without it, but I usually make another user to run applications (i.e. games) that don't play well with compiz
[19:19] <sebsebseb> abuayyoub: also in the long run a proper partitioned install is better :)
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: how do you mean connect?
[19:19] <Glacer> ActionParsnip, I think If I could find the older version it will make it work again
[19:19] <Kvik> Hey nogen der har prøvet og installer KDE desktop på ubuntu?
[19:19] <abuayyoub> sebsebseb, yea, I know I should have done it in the first place but... i was lazy lol
[19:19] <sebsebseb> !se | Kvik
[19:19] <omfarka>  is there anybody? why i can play music and video  on kmplayer or amarok while i'm at ubuntu 10.04
[19:19] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: I don't know how to do that. Maybe someone else will. (abuayyoub wants to enlarge a Wubi install file)
[19:19] <Sir_Konrad> dang it's hot.
[19:20] <omfarka> excuse me, i can't?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: desklets can be lauched from terminal, if you can work the command out you can launch it and the output will be given
[19:20] <leonesardo> !list
[19:20] <hmw> dejavou42: got it again... this time i have 2 power management icons, one with gray background and the context menu of the indicator applet...
[19:20] <haardz> Hello guy's! Anybody can help me?
[19:21] <sebsebseb> !ask | haardz
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> omfarka: have you installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:21] <haardz> Where can I find source  code linux rm command?
[19:21] <MPX> So let's say X crashed, and CTRL + ALT + F1 is not working
[19:21] <jrib> haardz: apt-get source coreutils
[19:21] <MPX> Will pressing Alt+SysRq+r , then CTRL + ALT + F1 work?
[19:21] <MPX> It says : "takes keyboard and mouse control from the X server. This can be useful if the X-Server crashed, you can change to a console and kill the X-Server or check the error log."
[19:21] <Glacer> ActionParsnip, here is what it does when I try to start it from shell to http://pastebin.com/qgn8xLtx
[19:22] <hmw> How can I find out, what "other user logged in" is preventing a shutdown? there is certainly no such user logged in
[19:22] <dejavou42> hmw: can you remove the extra indicator?
[19:22] <jiffe> how can I find out what configure options were used to build a package?
[19:22] <scuffed> how do i install the repo for linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[19:22] <hmw> dejavou42: no
[19:22] <DeadmanIncJS> could somebody direct me to where i can talk to somebody about MP3 players that DON'T need a windows program to add/delete songs
[19:22] <haardz> jrib, Thanks man!
[19:22] <omfarka> ActionParnsnip: no , i'm installing now
[19:22] <Cynthia> MPX: It might work, try it. To restart X you'd then type 'restart gdm' (or kdm if you're using KDE) in virtual terminal 1
[19:22] <DeadmanIncJS> i have a Zune now, but being on Linux... im too lazy to mess with VirtualBox or Wine
[19:22] <Loshki> !kde
[19:22] <Cynthia> no wait. sudo restart gdm
[19:22] <bodom> "start mysql" command hangs, how can I debug & solve this issue?
[19:22] <MPX> Thanks Cynthia :) :)
[19:22] <dejavou42> hmw: wait a minute.... did you say that this is only happening on the "notification area" applet?
[19:23] <CrazyTux> Hey guys I upgraded both of my desktops to Lucid..... and it has all gone to crap (Xorg is eating 100% of cpu on both)... video response seems slow, etc -- any thoughts on what may be going on?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: cool, ok now use that output to find bugs and / or fixes
[19:23] <sebsebseb> CrazyTux: sounds like a good idea to do a clean install
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> CrazyTux: reinstall video driver
[19:23] <sealive> hi i am on karmic and went in big trouble
[19:23] <DeadmanIncJS> CrazyTux don't feel bad.  ever since i upgraded to 10.04 ive had problems too
[19:23] <scuffed> Umm HELLO?
[19:23] <sealive> i lost python 2.5
[19:24] <sealive> lucid does not user python
[19:24] <sealive> 2.5
[19:24] <MPX> Now Cynthia ... Is there a way I can myself, provoke a crash in X so I can test it?
[19:24] <hmw> dejavou42: no, its mainlyhappening with that thing. other applets, too.. i gtg for an hour now, perhaps we meet later
[19:24] <Glacer> ActionParsnip, I was reading and most has this problem and they say versions 0.36.1-3 will work and new one will not
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdesklets/+bug/89585
[19:24] <sealive> can i dpkg the python inti the system from livecd?
[19:25] <Cynthia> CrazyTux: Xorg means that this is probbaly a graphics problem. And it may be a bug on xorg, or would be worth reporting with 'ubuntu-bug xorg-server-xcore'
[19:25] <scuffed> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic-backports main is what i add to the sources list right? for teh repo?
[19:25] <seismicmike> For compatibility reasons (with Drupal 5 and Drupal 6) I need to downgrade the version of php that was installed by default with 10.04. I need to downgrade from 5.3 to 5.2.11. I tried sudo aptitude reinstall php=5.2.11 and it didn't like that
[19:25] <dejavou42> hmw: ok, sorry I couldn't help more.
[19:25] <Cynthia> MPX: I don't know - again someone else might. I'll try Google though
[19:25] <scuffed> for linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[19:25] <MPX> Thanks Cynthia :)
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: try: mv ~/.gdesklets ~/.gdesklets_old    then retrying
[19:25] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, Ok, I got it this is much easier that we had hoped. Seems that Wubi has it's own script to migrate to a new partition. Coolness.
[19:26] <seismicmike> Do I need a backport repo or something?
[19:26] <abuayyoub> Cynthia, thank you for your help :)
[19:26] <Pici> scuffed: That is in the universe repositories in karmic
[19:26] <Cynthia> abuayyoub: Ah, didn't know about that. You're welcome
[19:26] <alastair_> Hi, I've got a wee problem, every window I open has got a black border around it, since this has happened everything has slowed down to a very annoying speed on the computer... is this a virus?
[19:26] <Cynthia> http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+simulate+an+xorg+crash+ubuntu
[19:26] <scuffed> this is the erro ri get when i download the deb file for it
[19:26] <scuffed> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-20-generic
[19:26] <Cynthia> me @ MPX ^
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: if its ok then you can delete the folder, othrwise rename it back
[19:26] <Cynthia> It doesn't seem to return any meaningful results, sorry.
[19:26] <Appl6> sealive: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python+2.5&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all  You can install one of them with dpkg.
[19:26] <Steve1949> 5EXAAUHEI hu
[19:27] <[diecast]> is ubuntu removing '/etc/init.d/script' - in future/current releases?
[19:27] <sveinerik_> Can someone give me a short run-through on the differences between Mint and Ubuntu? I've tried both and enjoyed both first impressions. I'm trying to check out which one I should try to migrate from windows to. Would be appreciative if I could get a PM, so i don't overlook anything =)
[19:27] <CrazyTux> Cynthia: let me take a look
[19:27] <Pici> scuffed: You need to have the karmic-security and/or karmic-updates repositories enabled.
[19:27] <sealive> Appl6:  no on a running system it does not work depencies
[19:28] <Appl6> alastair_: Try System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects and set it to None
[19:28] <Appl6> sealive: If you got an error, pastebin it please.
[19:28] <scuffed> Pici: how do i do that?
[19:28] <alastair_> thankyou thankyou thankyou!
[19:29] <Cynthia> scuffed: System / Administration / Software Sources
[19:29] <Pici> Cynthia: Darn, I'm too slow today.  Thanks :)
[19:29] <scuffed> n/m
[19:29] <Cynthia> Pici: :P
[19:29] <Appl6> MPX: Cynthia: Would killing X not reproduce whatever it is you're looking for?
[19:29] <sunshinepants> has anyone got a workaround for weirdness that occurs when resizing virtualbox guest windows  in compiz?  the bounding box stays on on desktops and the guest window doesn't resize
[19:29] <Cynthia> Appl6: killing X would restart it; MPX wants to freeze it
[19:29] <sebsebseb> sveinerik_: see pm
[19:30] <Cynthia> to simulate freezing after his/her game ends
[19:30] <sunshinepants> freakin annoying
[19:30] <Appl6> MPX: Cynthia: Like kill -STOP?
[19:30] <[diecast]> does 'service' use /etc/init.d or an internal db?
[19:30] <MPX> Sysreq is print screen right?
[19:30] <Cynthia> perhaps, if kill -STOP freezes keyboard/mouse input... try that, MPX ^
[19:30] <Cynthia> Yes
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> sunshinepants: i'd ask in #vbox   they may know a cure
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: any better?
[19:31] <MPX> ok brb
[19:31] <Cynthia> [diecast]: It uses a mixture of init.d and the new /etc/init Upstart scripts
[19:31] <[diecast]> ah, upstart, thats what i was looking for
[19:31] <Aazoris> ok I am having issues with the "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" it saying that it isnt recognized
[19:32] <Appl6> Aazoris: If you're trying to install ubuntu-desktop, it sounds like you have other issues with your installation =).
[19:32] <guest1606> hi people erm...i am newb and running 9.10 (yeah i know i'll probably upgrade some time later) in live mode and decided to install it over XP on the C partition
[19:32] <guest1606> but i also have another one with lots of files that i want to keep...so i went to manual partitioning and dont really know what partitions to create and what sizes..
[19:32] <MPX> That did not do jack :)
[19:32] <guest1606> i politely ask for help,guidance or link. Thanks.
[19:32] <ThinkingInBits> Does anyone know why, by default, when I upload files to my server they are set to such low permissions? (-rw------- )
[19:32] <Aazoris> What you mean by other issues
[19:32] <MPX> Kill does not recognize the command Cynthia
[19:32] <Cynthia> Aazoris: I agree with Appl6. But try to regenerate the package list with 'sudo apt-get update'. Maybe ubuntu-desktop will reappear and you can then install it.
[19:33] <Roasted> Does Network Manager have an option somewhere to refresh the network list like WICD and Windows do? It's VERY handy to hit refresh and see all updated networks in the area.
[19:33] <Cynthia> MPX: killall -STOP Xorg
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Aazoris: why are you installing it, its default in the desktop installation
[19:33] <blathat> I have this usb stick that does not auto mount like a good memory stick should, and I cant mount it manually following googled instructions.  Can anyone lend me a hand?
[19:33] <Cynthia> (MPX) I wonder what that command did, now...
[19:33] <claude23> Sure
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> blathat: what filesystem does it use?
[19:34] <Glacer> ActionParsnip, yeah thanks, reading on it and trying it out
[19:34] <Appl6> Cynthia: It forcibly "pauses" the process.  kill -CONT resumes it.
[19:34] <blathat> fat32
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Glacer: coolio
[19:34] <Aazoris> command not found is what im getting
[19:34] <jduggan> hey guys, can you make rsyslog log the facility from which the calling appliction is attempting to log to?
[19:34] <Cynthia> Appl6: That wouldn't explain why MPX quit right after entering the STOP command, since XChat should have been unaffected
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> blathat: hmm, does: dmesg | tail -n 15    show any activity relating to the device?
[19:35] <johannes2>                                            │ [diablo]
[19:35] <johannes2> 20:34:39       Aazoris | command not found is what im getting                                       │ [fade]
[19:36] <Appl6> Cynthia: I'm not sure how an application reliant upon X would be unaffected by X stopping completely.
[19:36] <claude23> ok so I exctracted the persistant, and now what do I do?
[19:37] <alexs> Is there a way to install ubuntu to a new drive from an existing linux or windows install?
[19:37] <VirusTB> how do i delet a directory in terminal
[19:37] <MPX> Well
[19:37] <alexs> VirusTB: man rm
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: rm -r /path/to/folder
[19:37] <blathat> I don't know if what dmesg | tail -n 15 returned is 'activity', what is it
[19:37] <MPX> I killed Xorg, did syreq R, tried ctrl + alt + f1...nothing worked
[19:37] <Cynthia> VirusTB: 'rm -r DIRNAME' - this deletes contents recursively
[19:38] <MPX> Syreq K worked though...
[19:38] <MPX> But where to go from there?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> blathat: if you use a pastebin  we can see the output
[19:38] <uxbridge> Alexs:google WUBI
[19:38] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip, Cynthia alexs  thanks! :D
[19:38] <MPX> Syreq K corrupted my whole screen and I could hear the sound output dissapearing through a Pop
[19:38] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip, Cynthia alexs  .. i can just add "sudo" infront to get full permission right?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: if the folder is not your users then sudo will be needed
[19:38] <Nilos> need help configuring my wireless connection
[19:39] <MPX> But typing anything into blindness (sudo restart gdm, following password, sudo restart, etc. did not work)
[19:39] <Vigo> alexs: You mean like move a hda/sda to another Physical Drive?
[19:39] <Cynthia> MPX: If you can then access virtual terminal 1 with Ctrl+Alt+F1, log into it and issue 'sudo restart gdm && sudo restart pulseaudio' - you might have a lot of services stopped, actually
[19:39] <Appl6> MPX: What do you mean "nothing worked"?  And why are you trashing your system with Sysrq?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[19:39] <zorzar> hey i just tried to upgrade a server from 8.04 to 10.04, now i can't connect to it via ssh, it hung on "Updating fontconfig cache for /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera" after removing unneeded packages and than the server reset the connection
[19:39] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  is there a way to  like unlock the permissions?? .. so then i can just use GUI (right click send to trash) folders?
[19:39] <Cynthia> MPX: Oh... blindness? :| You mean you still can't see a terminal?
[19:39] <MPX> Cynthia, Exactly
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: you can chown them to your user first but its unnecesary as you can just do it in one shot using terminal
[19:40] <Nilos> Action:product: VT6102 [Rhine-II]
[19:40] <Cynthia> MPX: You'll probably have to reboot the computer then, if no one else knows how to recover from a frozen X
[19:40] <An_Ony_Moose> how do I use the output of xsetwacom list?
[19:40] <blathat> http://pastebin.com/Fttxpntg
[19:40] <MPX> Cynthia : I hate a hard reboot :S
[19:40] <An_Ony_Moose> m00se, you stole my species! :P
[19:40] <zorzar> hey, ich habe grade versucht einen server von 8.04 auf 10.04 zu upgraden, nachdem die nicht mehr benötigten packete entfernt wurden hat "Updating fontconfig cache  for /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: sounds like the wired connection. Is the wireless device some usb thing?
[19:41] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  i suck at terminal :P  ok this bring me to my next question if i may ask
[19:41] <Nilos> Action:yes it is.
[19:41] <Pici> !de | zorzar
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: ask away
[19:41] <Cynthia> An_Ony_Moose: 'use' the output, how?
[19:41] <Appl6> MPX: killall -CONT Xorg
[19:41] <Soyo> MPX: you can't do a RESIU or whatever
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: after you type action, press tab to complete my nick ;)
[19:41] <VirusTB> How do i get to automatically mount a partition as soon as i logon
[19:41] <MPX> Appl6, Xorg frozen, No virtual terminals work'
[19:41] <MPX> That's right Soyo
[19:41] <shane2peru_> does anyone use Epiphany web browser?  I like the speed, I don't like the lack of ad-block, and having to clear the url bar everytime I want to open a web page, any ideas?
[19:41] <Soyo> :(
[19:41] <omfarka> ActionParsnip: same again, no play
[19:41] <Cynthia> Pici: zorzar asked the question in English initially
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: when you insert it, run: dmesg | tail     see if the system reacted to the insertion
[19:42] <Aazoris> Thanks for the help bbl gotta head to work. Bye.
[19:42] <MPX> Xorg crashes on me from time to time, running wine games
[19:42] <An_Ony_Moose> Cynthia, whenever I try to use xsetwacom get (device) all, it tells me it cannot find the device, no matter what I use as a name for the device
[19:42] <omfarka> is there any extra that i have to install
[19:42] <MPX> And no, not running as root
[19:42] <claude23> Ok. I have the Persistant folder.. What do i do Next?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> blathat: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdc     sounds like the data is a bit screwy. Have you been saftely removing this from systems or just ripping it out?
[19:42] <VirusTB> How do i get to automatically mount a partition as soon as i logon ActionParsnip
[19:42] <MPX> Cynthia, another question, Let
[19:42] <Nilos> ActionParsnip: it sees thw lan connection
[19:42] <crazy6> any ecryptfs gurus here? need to mount an old encrypted home directory (ubuntu style)
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | VirusTB
[19:43] <blathat> ripping it out
[19:43] <Soyo> do you have sudo permissions
[19:43] <NinoScript> Hello! I was wondering… is there a centrilized way to change keybindings for every app?
[19:43] <alexs> uxbridge: wubi installs to a loopback file on NTFS
[19:43] <hey_joe> i have a small Nokia 1U IP330 running 9.04, and for some reason, I cannot get the network cards running until after running >> $modprobe -r e100; $modprobe e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> blathat: thats why, there is a reason the safe removal is used. You have garbaged your FAT by abusing the device
[19:43] <alexs> uxbridge: i want to install to a new drive which i then move to a 2nd PC
[19:43] <bnc87> hi :)
[19:43] <Nilos> ActionParsnip:it sees my wlan connection as well the wlan network
[19:43] <alexs> my current idea is to use virtualbox
[19:43] <MPX> Cynthia, another question, Let's say I use backintime to take backup of the entire filesystem on a HDD. How can I restore the backup if Ubuntu decides to totally crash for me and is only accessible through a LIVE cd. And another one....Is there an easier way to take backup of the entire System?
[19:43] <Cynthia> 14:41:32  VirusTB How do i get to automatically mount a partition as soon as i logon <-- If I take your question at face value, you want to add an item to Startup Applications (in System / Preferences) to run the 'mount' utility. But as ActionParsnip said, !fstab
[19:43] <blathat> is the stick garbage?
[19:43] <blathat> at this point
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: so if you run: sudo iwlist scan    it shows SSIDs?
[19:44] <Cynthia> hm, let's try something
[19:44] <Cynthia> !backup | MPX
[19:44] <hey_joe> where can i stick those lines so it works after boot?  i tried /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf ... added alias eth0 e100; options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1 >> but that didn't work.
[19:44] <Cynthia> didn't know if ubottu had a factoid for !backup ^_^
[19:44] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, :yes it shows SSIDs for all my connections(including the wireless)
[19:45] <VirusTB> Cynthia,  :S i dont want to mess with that fstab file,  looks confusing, let me read up on it///
[19:45] <Vigo> Cynthia: Are you making a USB/Flash drive Full Install?
[19:45] <VirusTB> Cynthia, the system>preferences> start up sounds easier
[19:45] <Cynthia> VirusTB: Enter 'man fstab' in a command line.
[19:45] <diffrant> how do i whether the graphics card i plan to buy will work in ubuntu or not?
[19:45] <Cynthia> Ah ok :)
[19:45] <diffrant> this one http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us.html
[19:45] <claude23> I have the USB persistant file... what do I do next?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: great then the hard bit is done, if you use network manager in the indicator applet (near the time) you can connect to wlans
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | diffrant
[19:46] <VirusTB> Cynthia, reading about fstab on tuxfiles,org
[19:46] <danand> MPX: Clonezilla is pretty good
[19:46] <Cynthia> diffrant: it -should- work, with the NVidia binary driver (System / Administration / Hardware Drivers once you're in Ubuntu)
[19:46] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, I replaced network manager with wicd
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> diffrant: if you buy nvidia it will be very supported
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: thats great too, i prefer wicd too
[19:46] <Cynthia> Vigo: I'm not making an USB full install
[19:46] <claude23> Anyone
[19:46] <diffrant> ah good news :) i can use some of that
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: if your wireless interface is not wlan0 then you will need to tell wicd to use the different name
[19:46] <blathat> is this memory stick salvagable or have i ruined it?
[19:47] <MPX> Clonezilla sounds nice :)
[19:47] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, :it is wlan0
[19:47] <claude23> forget it
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> blathat: i'd stick it in a windows system to see if it is read and scandisk it
[19:47] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, but it says "no wireless networks found"
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: cool, ok and is wicd configured to look at wlan0
[19:47] <Cynthia> blathat: Can you summarise the details of your problem? What filesystem was on the stick: FAT, NTFS? What's the extent of the data loss?
[19:47] <claude23> Does anyone know?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> claude23: wassup
[19:48] <Vigo> Cynthia: My apologies, it was claude23 asking I think....
[19:48] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, how would I do that?
[19:48] <Cynthia> Vigo: Ah, no problem :)
[19:48] <blathat> it was FAT, i don't know what the data loss' extent was; I don't need any of the data, I want to format the memory stick
[19:48] <claude23> I need help with a USB persistant file
[19:49] <Cynthia> blathat: Do you know what the device name for your USB stick is? (/dev/sda, sdb, sdc, etc.)
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> claude23: ok, care to expand on that, you havent give ANY details which is why nobody helped you
[19:49] <blathat> yes /dev/sdc
[19:49] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: left click wicd in the indicator applet -> preferences button at the top
[19:49] <mariya> in main menu under menu item "wine" I have two menu entreis "programms" how can I combine them?
[19:50] <Cynthia> blathat: You'll probably want to run 'mkfs -t fat /dev/sdc' to format the stick, then
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> blathat: i suggest you fsck sdc to see if the systm can be fixed, your neglect has damaged the system, both windows and ubuntu have the option to safetly remove hardware like usb stick to make them not corrupt and you have waived this and dug your own grave
[19:50] <Cynthia> blathat: (+) Or right-click the stick on your Desktop and select 'Format...'
[19:50] <claude23> OK so, I want to put Ubuntu on my USB. I have a Virtual machine running it now, but I can't save anything... I was told to get the USB persistant file, and I expanded it, but I don't know what to do now
[19:50] <GeekSquid> mariya: we don't support WINE .. ask in #winehq
[19:51] <Ernz> Hi, I have a bit of a problem with my Ubuntu log in. Every time I enter the password the screen goes black and then it re-displays the login screen. It never lets me log it. My password is being entered correctly, it still tells me when it's not. Can someone please help?
[19:51] <mariya> GeekSquid, who we?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> claude23: i've found this if you have a windows systemhandy: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/casper-rw-creator-make-a-persistent-file-from-windows/
[19:51] <nhak> hi all, why do i get the error "cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i try to excute a program as root, as normal user i can excute it though ...
[19:51] <claude23> I got a windows
[19:52] <GeekSquid> mariya: this is ubuntu support, not windows, not wine, there is an apporpriate place to ask... thats #winehq
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> claude23: this is more linux based: http://linuxpendrive.co.cc/archives/37
[19:52] <MPX> Ernz, log into gnome terminal and check to see if your home dir is still there /ome/Yourusernameinhere
[19:52] <MPX> *home
[19:52] <blathat> the stick does not show up on my desktop
[19:52] <mariya> GeekSquid, have you actually read my question?
[19:52] <donavan01> anyone know if lightscribe works with ubuntu ?
[19:52] <Appl6> Ernz: You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get access to a virtual terminal.
[19:53] <blathat> i could do without the punitive advice, although I am very appreciate for the rest
[19:53] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, ok I see the preferences screen with "wireless intereface".I have entered "wlan0" in the textbox and wicd stilll doesnt see any wireless networks .Did I miss something?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> blathat: it will show up in nautilus' places menu when it was healthy
[19:53] <mariya> GeekSquid, I am talking there about gnome main menu!
[19:53] <Cynthia> blathat: You'll probably have to run the command I gave then: 'mkfs -t fat /dev/sdc' (no quotes) in the Terminal
[19:53] <Ernz> MPX, Appl6: Will try that just now.
[19:53] <glphvgacs> how big /tmp needs to be? also does it matter where it sits on the device?
[19:53] <MPX> mariya, right click on the gnome menu, select edit menu's and scroll down until you find Wine
[19:54] <Cynthia> glphvgacs: /tmp/ needs to be at least as large as the largest file you'll need to store in it. If you do DVD authoring, that means it'll need to be at least 9.5 GB. It doesn't matter where it is.
[19:54] <GeekSquid> mariya: you are talking about the wine main menu within the gnome main menu... Now the gnome main menu can be edited by going to System>Preferences>MainMenu
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> blathat: you could use testdisk to write a fat to the device, you may have to restore the data from backup. If you dont have a backup then you can use foremost to recover some of the data (if possible0
[19:54] <nhak> hi all, why do i get the error "cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i try to excute a program as root, as normal user i can excute it though ...
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: is the OS fully updated?
[19:54] <rocket16> Friends, my "Current Song" Exaile Plugin doesn't work, :( What to do? Also, how to make Visualizations in Exaile?
[19:55] <SmartViking> Hi is there some way i can completely restore my asus bios thingy to factory default?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> SmartViking: that isnt supported here, this is ubuntu support
[19:55] <SmartViking> But i need help :(
[19:55] <Cynthia> SmartViking: Consult ASUS support
[19:56] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, I have not switched to lucid yet.should I?
[19:56] <Cynthia> Our advice would be incomplete at best and could ruin your system.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: try the liveCD first to see if its nicer
[19:57] <SmartViking> Cynthia: Asus support is terrible :(
[19:57] <blathat> for 'mkfs' command returned 'mkfs.fat no such file or directory'
[19:57] <Nilos> ok brb
[19:57] <mikepq2008> Hello everybody, I don't have Ubuntu right now, but I was wondering how I'd go about getting it?
[19:57] <Slart> mikepq2008: download it from ubuntu.com
[19:57] <mariya> MPX, better tell me where can I find a corresponding file for such a menu entry...
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> blathat: mkfs will format the usb stick for you
[19:57] <Cynthia> SmartViking: #ubuntu still stands by what I said - we don't support motherboards, their manufacturers do, and any advice we could give could ruin your system and your motherboard's warranty, for having performed unsupported operations yourself
[19:57] <Ernz> MPX, Appl6: I can see /home/ernz but when I try and see what's in it I just see a README.txt and an Access-Your-Private-Desktop.desktop directory. Any ideas?
[19:57] <Appl6> blathat: Make sure you run it with "sudo".
[19:57] <Slart> mikepq2008: or one of the many many mirrors.. (there's a list on ubuntu.com as well)
[19:57] <Vigo> SmartViking: Look at computerhope.com or get nasty with it.
[19:58] <mikepq2008> I already downloaded it, I mean how do I install it
[19:58] <Ernz> MPX, Appl6: not directory, file.
[19:58] <Slart> mikepq2008: you've downloaded an iso, right?
[19:58] <mariya> MPX, I believe it's somewhere in /usr/share/...
[19:58] <mikepq2008> yes
[19:58] <Slart> mikepq2008: burn it to a cd then reboot the computer with that cd in the drive.. that should do it
[19:58] <blathat> will sudo still no such file or directory mkfs.fat
[19:58] <Slart> !burniso | mikepq2008
[19:59] <thedude42> anyone have issues with virtualbox after dist-upgrade with errors about AMD-V being used by something else (KVM module is NOT loaded)
[19:59] <MPX> /usr/share/applications mariya ?
[19:59] <Appl6> Ernz: It sounds like you have an encrypted home directory.  Is that true?
[19:59] <Ernz> Appl6: True.
[19:59] <Leftmost> On Lucid, I've done `update-rc.d -f gdm remove'. It says that it's removed it from all of the /etc/rc?.d directories, but gdm still starts on boot. Why?
[20:00] <Appl6> Ernz: I have no experience with encrypted partitions.  Maybe the README has something useful to say?
[20:00] <hey_joe> can anyone tell me why my /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf is not being read?
[20:00] <blathat> err using sudo i still get the no such file directory response
[20:00] <mariya> MPX, probably, yes ,thank you
[20:00] <thedude42> Leftmost, did you check the /etc/init/gdm.conf ?
[20:00] <hey_joe> i have an option in there >> option e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1 for my nic cards...
[20:00] <Ernz> MPX, Appl6: If I use virtual terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1) at the login then I can see my home directory and everything in it.
[20:01] <dasc> Hi,  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 and I did a "gksu nautilus" to delete some very huge log files (4.3GB), but somehow the system didn't free up that 4.3GB of space!
[20:01] <MPX> mariya, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552177
[20:01] <dasc> can anyone help?
[20:01] <GeekSquid> dasc: look in /root/.trash
[20:02] <Leftmost> thedude42, no... though how am I supposed to get services to not start on boot, if update-rc.d doesn't work?
[20:02] <dan> Hello ppl
[20:02] <thedude42> LedHed, update-rc.d is for /etc/init.d/ scripts, but a bunch of things (including gdm) were converted to upstrart jobs, which is configured in /etc/init/
[20:03] <Ernz> Appl6: Thanks for your help, I'm just going to do a clean install of Ubuntu. It's well overdue. Thanks again.
[20:03] <markl> is anyone here able to view this: http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-may-12-2010-michael-patrick-king
  update-rc.d is for /etc/init.d/ scripts, but a bunch of things (including gdm) were converted to upstrart jobs, which is configured in /etc/init/
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> dasc: did you empty your trash. If you used gksudo nautilus it will be in /root/.local/share/Trash
[20:04] <neo> hi
[20:04] <dan> hello neo
[20:04] <dasc> GeekSquid: just trying to locate the /Trash folder now but doesn't seem to be in /root/ will now try .local/share
[20:04] <euthymos> hi is there any way I can setup for automatically connect at startup a VPN PPTP connection?
[20:05] <GeekSquid> dasc: did you go to View>show hidden files
[20:05] <dasc> YAY it's in /root/.local/share/Trash
[20:05] <dasc> :D
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: could add a script in startup items nder preferences
[20:05] <dan> Eveyone should use some form of Linux
[20:05] <dasc> thanks guys :D
[20:05] <alexs> does anyone know how i can install ubuntu to a new hard drive from within window or ubuntu?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> dasc: use shift + del if you want to REALLY delete it, be careful with it though
[20:05] <tado> hey guys. with lucid i have a quite fast boot, but while booting the screen is black with a black cursor up left, in two different styles. then i get to the ubuntu splash that stays only for a couple of secs and opens the login page, does anyone know if it's something i can intervene on?
[20:05] <euthymos> ActionParsnip: cool. Do you have any advice on how to write this script
[20:05] <euthymos> ActionParsnip: or where can I get some info?
[20:05] <dan> vmwareplayer
[20:06] <nhak> hi all, why do i get the error "shared library not found" when i execute a program as root (using sudo), while there are no prob when i execute it as normal user ...
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: not sure, you'll have to dig around, it the connection autoconnects when you launch an app from the menu then add that in the items
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> nhak: what app is it?
[20:06] <NinoScript> alexs, what do you mean?
[20:07] <Cynthia> nhak: Which shared library is not found? I see a lot of results on Google for your error, and each is for a different program
[20:07] <nhak> it's my own program
[20:07] <GeekSquid> !gksudo | nhak
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> nhak: if its an x based app use gksudo
[20:07] <alexs> NinoScript: I have a windows/ubuntu box, i have a new HD. I would like to install ubuntu on that new HD.
[20:07] <Dark_Wolf> My laptop boots into X fine, but if I log off, X won't start correctly. The login screen is blank, and once I'm logged in, the screen just flickers a bunch of black and white lines every few seconds. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I'm on Lucid.
[20:07] <alexs> I do not have any USB keys or CD-Rs
[20:07] <nhak> no it's no graphic app ...
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> nhak: cool, i'd check $PATH for root and $USER to make sure all is well
[20:08] <kernix> how would i install adobe from term please ?
[20:08] <dan> release the jump drive
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> kernix: adobe what? adobe isnt a program
[20:08] <Cynthia> kernix: Adobe is a company. What software do you want to install?
[20:08] <mike233yo718> hello
[20:08] <euthymos> it's so annoying there is not a simple "connect at boot" :(
[20:08] <Cynthia> Acrobat, Flash, or something else.
[20:08] <NinoScript> alexs, Just put the install CD, and in the step where it asks about partitions, there should be an option, I think
[20:08] <euthymos> why is everything so difficult and time consuming?
[20:08] <mike233yo718> can please anyone help me with managing services in ubuntu 10.04?
[20:08] <euthymos> thank you however
[20:08] <nhak> I have also changed the .bashrc in /root/ in include the paths of the libraries but it still does not work ...
[20:08] <alexs> NinoScript: I dont have any CDs
[20:08] <kernix> adobe flash player
[20:08] <alexs> i just have a drive image
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: submit the idea on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <Cynthia> kernix: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:09] <euthymos> ActionParsnip: good idea
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> kernix: what is the output of: uname -a
[20:09] <remoteCTRL1> !dvd
[20:09] <NinoScript> alexs, Ohh, you installed Ubuntu through Wubi?
[20:09] <alexs> NinoScript: yes
[20:09] <nhak> ActionParsnip, i have also changed the .bashrc in /root/ to include the paths of the libraries but it still does not work ...
[20:09] <alexs> i want a fresh install on a new HD
[20:09] <alexs> but i cant use any external media
[20:10] <NinoScript> alexs, well, I think you should burn that image
[20:10] <alexs> NinoScript: I cant!
[20:10] <NinoScript> alexs, why? :O
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> nhak: you will have to analyse what you r app uses and stuff then compare those requisites in your users config then check out roots
[20:10] <alexs> no CDs!
[20:10] <Appl6> nhak: If you know the libraries you need, check their permissions and owners.  They should be world readable and world executable.
[20:10] <Glacer> whats another good software like gdesklet I can't get gdesklet to work on 10.04
[20:10] <alexs> going to try using vmware player
[20:11] <mike233yo718> can anyone tell me how do i manage services in ubuntu 10.04?
[20:11] <Cynthia> nhak: Oh, that's your problem then. Sudo doesn't really start making you 'root'; thus, /root/.bashrc is not read. You need to either BE root, or edit your own user's .bashrc file to include that in your path
[20:11] <hmw> when I shutdown, i get asked for the password, because another user would be logged in, which is not the case. How can I track down this problem?
[20:11] <euthymos> everyone should vote for this: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/10025/
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> nice gratitude from kernix eh :( I hate people like that
[20:11] <euthymos> it's just common sense
[20:12] <NinoScript> alexs, ohh :P Well, there is a way to move your wubi virtual partition to a real one… let me search it for you
[20:12] <alexs> LVPM
[20:12] <Leftmost> Hmm. Thanks, thedude42. I take it there's no CLI tool for it? Just have to mess with /etc/init?
[20:12] <nhak> Cynthia, those libraries are also included in my .bashrc file, as i said before, it works with the normal user
[20:12] <alexs> i will resort to that if vmware doesnt work :)
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> euthymos: voted. I dont use vpn but it makes sense
[20:12] <euthymos> thank you
[20:12] <alexs> i would have thought Wubi could do it alone
[20:12] <alexs> since the LiveCD can
[20:12] <nhak> AcntionParsnip, i just wonder, what is the paths that it will look for when i execute the app with sudo ?
[20:13] <Cynthia> nhak: Ah, my idea of your problem was that 'root' couldn't run the program and your own user will :(
[20:13] <Ernz> Im trying to use a Lucid live cd, after the first splash the screen goes all garbled and cropped. It boots into the desktop but it's still all garbled. How do I run the live cd in low graphics mode?
[20:13] <alexs> Ernz: there is a safe mode option no?
[20:13] <bodom> Hi folds. MySQL doesn't start. Can anybody help me?
[20:14] <lonejack> I saw that on synaptic it's possible to find chromium... what's the difference from google chrome and chromium?
[20:14] <Cynthia> ernz: safe graphics mode - Press a key when the "Keyboard = Human" screen appears, and then press F6
[20:14] <bodom> *folks :p
[20:14] <yariv> Ernz: What kind of hardware are you trying to run it on?
[20:14] <iceroot> bodom: the error message can help you and us
[20:14] <nhak> Cynthia, yeah, i can run the app with my own user, but with root it does not work
[20:14] <thedude42> Leftmost, no CLI that I have seen, but I'm sure something is in the works.... you can comment out the stanza that says 'start on' to prevent one of the services from starting automatically
[20:14] <bodom> iceroot: I have no error messages. start mysql just hangs infinitely
[20:14] <iceroot> bodom: also the log and starting mysql in verbose/debug mode
[20:14] <Leftmost> Ahh. That's simpler than I was going to do it, heh. Thank you.
[20:15] <iceroot> bodom: type "mysql --help" to see the parameter for debug/verbose  and use it, normaly mysql -v
[20:15] <bodom> iceroot: manually starting mysql with sudo -u mysql mysql -d works instead
[20:15] <Guest86627> Hey is there a way to kill the gui when you boot up ubuntu? Like the desktop
[20:15] <NinoScript> alexs, I think wubi is for installing ubuntu inside windows as a virtual file, so it's normal that it doesn't have an option for a full install outside windows
[20:15] <Ernz> All: I am trying to run it on Nvidia chipset. No problem with many other ubuntu live CD's. I press F6 at the menu and I see acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nosmraid, nomodreset and Free Software Only
[20:15] <Guest86627> I forget the command to list processes
[20:15] <Ernz> All: No "Safe Mode"?
[20:15] <nhak> Cynthia, i dont know, where should i specify the paths for the libs when i run the app as root ... it seems that it will not work with .bashrc in /root/
[20:15] <iceroot> Guest86627: ps
[20:15] <phillyj> anyone know what Error 1 pertains to? e.g. make: *** [makelist] Error 1
[20:16] <NinoScript> alexs, and yes, LVPM should probably do the job of moving your Wubi install to the other disk
[20:16] <bodom> iceroot: also, sudo -u mysql mysql -v works fine
[20:16] <Guest86627> Iceroot that only lists the terminal I'm in, tty1 I need to kill tty7
[20:16] <Cynthia> nhak: 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=yourpath:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH yourprogram'
[20:17] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, Im back
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: yo
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: is lucid nicer to you>
[20:17] <NinoScript> alexs, Here's a tutorial: http://blip.tv/file/331947/
[20:17] <Roasted> Does Network Manager have an option somewhere to refresh the network list like WICD and Windows do? It's VERY handy to hit refresh and see all updated networks in the area.
[20:17] <m3asmi> hi
[20:17] <Roasted> Also - Does anybody know if WICD can share internet connections?
[20:17] <JoshuaL> whenever i plug in a external speaker set at my laptop i have to manually change the output connector via sound preferences, how can i solve this so it does it automaticly like it should be>
[20:18] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, :wicd now sees my wireless network, but every attempt to connect has failed
[20:18] <chill9> All: having issues setting baud rate on a garmin gps 18 USB, tried stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 38400, but keep getting unable to perform requested operation.  tried an newer kernel, then the default 2.6.32-33, used 2.6.34 running 10.04 LTS.  Have an older machine running a different distribution and kernel 2.6.18, works fine.
[20:18] <Hopeless8009> can some one plz tell me a termenal command to reboot my computer
[20:18] <thedude42> yeah, so anyone using VirtualBox with a system that supports CPU virtualization extensions.... your answer to problems could be a bios update
[20:18] <CaptainTrek> Hopeless8009:  shutdown -r now
[20:18] <CaptainTrek> er
[20:18] <CaptainTrek> wait
[20:18] <Hopeless8009> hay thanks
[20:18] <Appl6> Hopeless8009: reboot
[20:18] <CaptainTrek> Hopeless8009:  sudo shutdown -r now
[20:18] <CaptainTrek> Appl6: never had success with "reboot"
[20:18] <Sam_Fisher> good morning!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:19] <bodom> anyone?
[20:19] <Guest86627> Iceroot that only lists the terminal I'm in, tty1 I need to kill tty7
[20:19] <Sam_Fisher> So how is evryone liking Windows 7?
[20:19] <FriedrichMan> hello
[20:19] <alexs> NinoScript: seems like my cunning plan of using vmwareplayer wil work :)
[20:19] <Cynthia> bodom: Anyone what? Sorry, this channel is fast-paced and you'll need to repeat your question every so often (but not too often! :)
[20:19] <FriedrichMan> maybe somebody's got the answer to this: I am trying to use thunderbird and it keeps asking me for the password... I write the password... and asks me for the password again...
[20:19] <FriedrichMan> what's up with that?
[20:20] <Sam_Fisher> How do I add extra destinations to the Copy to: and Move to: right click commands?
[20:20] <oCean_> bodom: checked mysql logs in /var/log/ and/or /var/log/mysql ?
[20:20] <Guest86627> How do I kill my gui session in tty7 it doesn't show it in ps or top
[20:20] <NinoScript> alexs, but that won't be a full install! :P         well, good luck with that ;)
[20:20] <bodom> Cynthia: the command start mysql hangs undefinitely. I have no error messages
[20:20] <Appl6> nhak: You could try executing your application under strace and looking at the output.  It should tell you which part is failing.
[20:20] <guntbert> !ot | Sam_Fisher
[20:20] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, Does it get your mail?
[20:20] <jvizzle> Heya, Is there a program to extract .rar?
[20:20] <alexs> NinoScript: wont be full? how?
[20:20] <bodom> oCean_: I've checked them, but the only logs are written when i manually start mysql and it works fine on this case
[20:20] <phillyj> anyone know what Error 1 pertains to? e.g. make: *** [makelist] Error 1
[20:20] <Sonsee> unrar )))
[20:21] <JoshuaL> whenever i plug in a external speaker set at my laptop i have to manually change the output connector via sound preferences, how can i solve this so it does it automaticly like it should be>
[20:21] <Sam_Fisher> guntbert, Sorry I thought this was the self help area for fools using Windoze
[20:21] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: i don't know... I have no new mail I guess
[20:21] <jvizzle> Sonsee: apt-get that?
[20:21] <dasc> Anyone know where I can set the sharing options on ubuntu 10.04?  I've tried to do it via /etc/samba/smb.conf but my windows box still asks for username/password which doesn't seem to be working :(
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[20:21] <FriedrichMan> now I am trying to change the master password from settings and it says it's not the right password... wtf?
[20:21] <jvizzle> alright
[20:22] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, what's your address I'll make sure you get some new email
[20:22] <Appl6> jvizzle: Ha, you wouldn't happen to be a video game map maker would you?  And yes, "sudo aptitude install unrar-free".
[20:22] <Guest86627> How do I kill my gui session in tty7 it doesn't show it in ps or top its the default desktop ubuntu loads
[20:22] <oCean_> FriedrichMan: watch your language
[20:22] <NinoScript> alexs, err… I meant… it won't be running natively, I thought that's what you wanted, full speed :)
[20:22] <alexs> NinoScript: I will then take the HD and stick it in my other computer
[20:22] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: abrojo11@hotmail.com
[20:22] <Sonderblade> what can you do to get ubuntu to regenerate the initrd, vmlinuz and System.map files?
[20:22] <alexs> installer is currently sitting on little keyboard = man in cricle icon
[20:22] <jvizzle> Appl6: not since quake 1 and 2
[20:22] <alexs> wtf does that mean?
[20:23] <cfedde> Guest86627: one way is to be in tty7 and hit ctl-alt-backspace.
[20:23] <Nilos> ActionParsnip, :wicd now sees my wireless network, but every attempt to connect has failed.I set the encrpytion key in properties.Am I missing something?
[20:23] <guntbert> FriedrichMan: this channel is publicly logged - so don't post your email address here
[20:23] <cfedde> Guest86627: another is to restart gdm
[20:23] <Docteh> dasc: samba has a separate password file
[20:23] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, sent
[20:23] <guntbert> !wtf | alexs
[20:24] <phillyj> anyone know what Error 1 pertains to? e.g. make: *** [makelist] Error 1
[20:24] <dasc> Docteh: I've tried using the terminal to set the password as well but it doesn't seem to work for samba
[20:24] <Guest86627> Cfedde how do I restart gdm?
[20:24] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, sometimes when the settings get messed up from the beginning Tbird requires the account to be deleted and to start over
[20:24] <dasc> Docteh: i did sudo smbpasswd -a [username]
[20:24] <chill9> All: having issues setting baud rate on a garmin gps 18 USB, tried stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 38400, but keep getting unable to perform requested operation.  tried an newer kernel, then the default 2.6.32-33, used 2.6.34 running 10.04 LTS.  Have an older machine running a different distribution and kernel 2.6.18, works fine.
[20:24] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher it asks me for the password again
[20:25] <m3asmi> do you know any serveur how gives an IP  (like no-ip)
[20:25] <cfedde> Guest86627: from one of the text consoles type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[20:25] <dasc> Docteh: problem is..... everytime I restart ubuntu I have to go thru the setup process again to make sure my windows box connects :(
[20:26] <Docteh> dasc: it took a password and still doesn't work, or it errored when you set the password
[20:26] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, Is there an option to check Remember Password?
[20:26] <Cynthia> m3asmi: if you want to get your ip, whatismyip.com ; if you want to associate a hostname to your dynamic IP, try registering at dyndns.org or something
[20:26] <dasc> Docteh: took the password, then I'd have to restart my win box > type in the username/password to make it work
[20:26] <Guest86627> Cfedde is there a way to shut it down and then run gdm or xinit as root and have the gui as root, I'm having complicated problems I can't resolve via a terminal
[20:26] <Docteh> what version of windows?
[20:26] <Cynthia> m3asmi: (+) you'll need a dyndns updater client, please read the instructions at DynDNS
[20:27] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: in the accounts passwords... not the master password
[20:27] <FriedrichMan> I am having trouble with the master password
[20:27] <Docteh> I haven't had to restart windows due to samba problems since I upgraded to windows 2000 :-/
[20:27] <cfedde> Guest86627: if you have a root password then you can log into the gui as root.
[20:27] <Guest86627> Well of course you can via a terminal, but I'm having difficulties connecting to a network cfedde
[20:27] <dasc> Docteh: after I restart the pc I've got to go through the same process again >_>
[20:27] <dasc> Docteh: using windows XP
[20:27] <Docteh> oh, well XP wont remember passwords, are you sure the linux box is doing the same thing?
[20:28] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, master pwd? hmm I don't recall there being one. Is it perhaps the one for the interent connection?
[20:28] <Guest86627> Cfedde oh yeah duh thanks
[20:28] <Nilos> Need help setting up a wireless connection in wicd.Wtcd sees the connection, but I camnt seem to connect even after entering the encryption
[20:28] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, sorry I am not helping much
[20:28] <Googleman> hi all
[20:28] <dasc> Docteh: I don't think problem is on windows side, coz windows gives a pop up asking me for the username/password (which I definitely entered correctly)
[20:28] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: it's ok... I guess I'll just have to keep using hotmail
[20:28] <Sam_Fisher> Googleman, hey to you too
[20:28] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:28] <FriedrichMan> or reinstall this... though I am not really liking thunderbird so far
[20:29] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, so you can't recieve email?
[20:29] <FriedrichMan> spent 3 hours downloading all my mail
[20:29] <etale> hi all does anyone know some guides for making a USB stick bootable using linux terminal ?  I tried the 'usb-create' package but the thing didn't boot...
[20:29] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: unfortunatly
[20:29] <cfedde> Guest86627: it seems a little odd to need a root gui session.  But just because I'm not creative enough to come up with a need does not mean there is no such need.
[20:29] <noric> I am running ubuntu 8.04 on my dell mini 9 netbook, and would like to upgrade to 10.04.  I have tried "update-manager --devel-release" and similar actions, but I cannot get 8.04 to recognize the available 10.04 upgrade.  I believe this is a problem with my software sources.  Thanks.
[20:29] <dasc> Docteh: even with the correct username/password, my windows box isn't able to browse my linux shared files until I setup samba with 1) right click sharing options on folder 2) terminal to do smbpasswd
[20:29] <Docteh> etale: for usb I'd go with grub or extlinux
[20:29] <dlublink> Can I install raid using the 10.04lts live cd or must I use alternate É
[20:30] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, create a new account from the beginning.
[20:30] <Guest86627> Cfedde I'm not used to ubuntus networking and I couldn't do it via a terminal even withthe docs
[20:30] <Cynthia> FriedrichMan: once you're done downloading all your mail, send delete commands to the mail server and export your mails to files on your computer :)
[20:30] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, perhaps you missed a step or typed the wrong thing
[20:30] <FriedrichMan> Sam_Fisher: it's the master password so I cannot do anything in here.
[20:30] <Docteh> dasc: it should remember the password, i cant speak for gui tools though
[20:30] <Sam_Fisher> Cynthia, I'm helping him! Go get your own
[20:30] <Sam_Fisher> Cynthia, just kidding
[20:31] <Cynthia> I can still add to what you're saying, if I have tips to give :P
[20:31] <dasc> Docteh: hmmmmmmmm oh well, will have to stick with this for the time being until I format my pc
[20:31] <dasc> :D
[20:31] <jungli_>  how to do ssh to virtual server
[20:31] <FriedrichMan> Cynthia: What? should I get in the thunderbird folder (wherever it is) and save it somewhere else... reinstall the whole thing and...do...something?
[20:31] <jungli_> i install redhat on ubuntu via vbox
[20:31] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, Cynthia is correct. I used Tbird to backup my Gmail accounts to DVD. Now I can look back on what a fool I was when I was younger.
[20:31] <oCean_> jungli_: as soon as the virtualserver has ip-address you can ssh into the virtual machine
[20:31] <alexises> people here are the use a mx revollution keyboard
[20:31] <Cynthia> jungli_: same as a real server; you just have to find what IP address it was allocated
[20:32] <alexises> and mouse kit ?
[20:32] <Cynthia> FriedrichMan: The option should be in File/Export
[20:32] <jungli_> is ip is 10.xx some thing :P
[20:32] <Docteh> alexises: that sounds like regular boring hardware
[20:32] <jungli_> but mine is 192.168 xx
[20:32] <Cynthia> My step is optional though, it's just if you want to avoid downloading all your mail in future
[20:32] <unix_> exit
[20:32] <jungli_> vbox is ip is 10.xx some thing :P
[20:32] <Jef91> Anyone use an Intel SSD under Ubuntu? If so does it work well?
[20:32] <jungli_> but mine is 192.168 xx
[20:33] <jungli_> :O
[20:33] <FriedrichMan> Cynthia: the thing is... thunderbird is not allowing me to do anything at all
[20:33] <chill9> All: having issues setting baud rate on a garmin gps 18 USB, tried stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 38400, but keep getting unable to perform requested operation.  tried an newer kernel, then the default 2.6.32-33, used 2.6.34 running 10.04 LTS.  Have an older machine running a different distribution and kernel 2.6.18, works fine.
[20:33] <Sam_Fisher> Cynthia, first he would need to actually get tbird working
[20:33] <Docteh> jungli_: i usually bridge my virtual machines to my lan personally
[20:33] <jungli_> hello
[20:33] <Cynthia> FriedrichMan: Ah :\ Sorry, I haven't used Thunderbird in a long while
[20:33] <Nilos> Need help setting up a wireless connection in wicd.Wicd sees the connection, but I cant seem to connect even after entering the encryption.What am I missing?
[20:33] <sevenseeker> on a studio 17 with graphics card: ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4650 1G B (brand new) with windows 7 ultimate installed on first drive and I installed Ubuntu 10.4 on second drive, but now can't boot into either system after first boot (can boot first time after install but not after that)
[20:33] <sevenseeker> is this a grub issue?
[20:33] <FriedrichMan> worse than that.. I have 2 "password required" messages all the time
[20:33] <jungli_> how can i asssign good ip to virtual machine ?
[20:33] <jungli_> how can i asssign good ip to virtual machine ?
[20:34] <oCean_> jungli_: stop repeating
[20:34] <jungli_> :P
[20:34] <hmw> FriedrichMan: did you perhaps use a link to get the profile from soemwhere else? perhaps a NTFS partition?
[20:34] <CaptainTrek> !repeat | jungli_
[20:34] <guntbert> jungli_: virtual box support in #vbox please
[20:34] <oCean_> jungli_: in the vbox settings you can choose for "bridged networking"
[20:34] <Docteh> sevenseeker: first time after install, as in if you reinstall linux you can boot it once after that?
[20:34] <jungli_> thanks :P
[20:34] <rain_> how to fix those apt-get errors?  /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[20:34] <rain_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:35] <sevenseeker> Docteh, yes... that is my workaround right now
[20:35] <sevenseeker> thus I suspect grub, but am not sure what to fix
[20:35] <alexises> Docteh: yes, unfortunetly it try to search if a bug present on fedora 13 it's also exist on ubuntu 10.04
[20:35] <Damascene> how to upload screen cast to youtube as Lucid uses theora 1.1 and youtube does not
[20:35] <Docteh> alexises: whats the problem
[20:35] <Cynthia> Damascene: ffmpeg -i FILE.ogv -f avi -sameq FILE.avi
[20:36] <Cynthia> (sudo apt-get install ffmpeg)
[20:36] <Sam_Fisher> How do I add extra destinations to the Copy to: and Move to: right click commands?
[20:36] <FriedrichMan> hmw: nope, just finished getting my 2 personal accounts working on thunderbird... since the passwords aren't very strong... I decided to use this Master Password option and when I restarted the thing... well it's giving me this hard time
[20:36] <alexises> Docteh: the keyboard is been detected but the ac adaptater is a bluetooth adaptator
[20:36] <OttifantSir> I've lost my menu-folder for Wine after an upgrade to 10.04. Complete removal and reinstallation hasn't helped. Any way to get it back?
[20:36] <Damascene> any one knows a site that accept ogv?
[20:36] <alexises> this bluetooth adaptator has 2 mode : a basic  compatibility mode and it's alsa can be use as a bluetooth receptor
[20:36] <Damascene> thanks Cynthia
[20:37] <hmw> FriedrichMan: did you rule out such simple things as CAPS LOCK or another keyboard layout?
[20:37] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, so you had tbird working then somewher in tbird found a master password option?
[20:37] <alexises> the problem is that bluez input module look like configurade to autoconfigure my keyboard
[20:37] <Docteh> sevenseeker: whats the error you get when nothing boots?
[20:37] <alexises> and the bluez wiki is down :(
[20:37] <Cynthia> FriedrichMan: The Master Password is there so you can save your mail passwords. You still need to enter your mail password in the Password Manager, but when Tbird asks you for your "password" to check your mail, if you have it saved, it's going to be the Master Password, not any mail password. Your mail server is not going to know about your Master Password.
[20:37] <bodom> so, no way to make the new crap init script work?
[20:37] <Vbitz> would i have any problems with a atheros  wireless card when installing ubuntu 10.04 netbook
[20:37] <FriedrichMan> hmw: yeap... even wrote the password in a paper since I was so prowd of havind came up with such a cool password
[20:38] <anujgupta> jfijr
[20:38] <Sam_Fisher> Does anyone use the MoveTO: right click? How can I MoveTO: Say my Dropbox.
[20:38] <sevenseeker> Docteh: 'No module found: press any key to continue' (then it tries to PXE boot as per the default BIOS boot order)
[20:38] <duffydack> OttifantSir, theres a file called applications.menu in .config/menus.  edit it, and you`ll see some tags called "Deleted  /Deleted"   remove them
[20:38] <Docteh> huh
[20:38] <hmw> FriedrichMan: heheh. Well... I hope you get your stuff up again!
[20:38] <Guest86627> Hey guys I can't connect to my home network, what should I do? Its unsecured and there's no mac filtering
[20:38] <blathat> For some reason, my SSD does not automatically mount when I boot my computer.  I have to click on it places and then enter my password to mount it.  How can I make this automatic like it was before?
[20:38] <Sam_Fisher> FriedrichMan, oh noo! I stick with my name and birthday since I can usually remember it and if not I can ask my Mom
[20:38] <VirusTB> Error allert >> " Error loading the runtime (libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)""
[20:39] <FriedrichMan> Cynthia: I am going with the Master Password... not the mail passwords... for the mail passwords I checked it so it doesn't ask for it
[20:39] <OttifantSir> daffydack: Thanks
[20:39] <Cynthia> blathat: I'm not sure if you were the person who asked how to mount a drive on startup, but see:
[20:39] <Cynthia> !fstab
[20:39] <hmw> Cynthia: fstab is not for automount
[20:39] <Nilos> Need help setting up a wireless connection in wicd.Wicd sees the connection, but I cant seem to connect even after entering the encryption.What am I missing?
[20:40] <Docteh> sevenseeker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343851 looks common
[20:40] <VirusTB> im guestting i need to install "libgtk-x11-2.0.so "  Cynthia Aciid
[20:40] <hmw> Cynthia: btw. if you mount your drive via fstab, its owned by root, thus the user cant umount it in Gnome
[20:40] <hmw> Cynthia: perhaps one can do something about that, i guess
[20:40] <Cynthia> hmw: I'm not sure *when* blathat wants the drive to be mounted, so we could be both wrong :(
[20:41] <FriedrichMan> i hate my life
[20:41] <VirusTB> Error allert >> " Error loading the runtime (libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)""
[20:41] <FriedrichMan> ok... thanks for your help
[20:41] <hmw> Cynthia: i assumed, he has that bug, where it suddenly stops automounting the drive. I had that too. Usually an icon appears, when you connect your thumb drive...
[20:41] <blathat> i want the drive to mount at startup
[20:41] <etale> whats the command for making a partition have the ext2 filesystem?
[20:41] <Cynthia> hmw: Ah. I'll let you try to help then.
[20:41] <ThinkingInBits> Ok, this is incredibly annoying.  So, my /var/www/folder is owned by myftpuser, he and apache are both in the apache group, which the folder belongs to
[20:41] <trijntje> how can I add a computer to my Ubuntu one account? I suppose i'm some sort of idiot but I cannot seem to find the option in the web interface
[20:42] <sevenseeker> dang, that is a whacked out philosophy on life just because of OS/compy problems
[20:42] <hmw> blathat: in this case, look into fstab, you just need a line there and the file system will be mounted automatically, even before the GUI starts
[20:42] <ThinkingInBits> whenever I upload a file to this directory with filezilla, the permissions are set to 600, but when i touch a file through ssh, its the proper '644'
[20:42] <Docteh> etale: mkfs.ext2 /dev/be/careful
[20:42] <ThinkingInBits> umask is set to 022
[20:42] <hmw> Cynthia: sorry for intervening, i was only trying to be helpful :-)
[20:42] <etale> Docteh thx, it's just for messing with the USB
[20:42] <VirusTB> is there usenet for ubuntu?
[20:42] <Cynthia> hmw: no worries, but I find it kind of funny that you just said what !fstab said :)
[20:43] <sevenseeker> Docteh: thank you for finding this, my google foo and ubuntu forum-fu was just not using good strings I guess, thank you so much
[20:43] <noric> I am having trouble upgrading to 10.04.  I want to set my software sources manually so it recognizes the 10.04 upgrade. How can I do that? Thanks
[20:43] <hmw> Cynthia: well... with all my talk about automount and not being fstab i just thought i made it clear
[20:43] <chill9> All: Does anyone know of a channel that could help me fix an issue I'm having with setting the baud rate.  I'm having issues setting baud rate on a garmin gps 18 USB, tried stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 38400, but keep getting unable to perform requested operation.  tried an newer kernel, then the default 2.6.32-33, used 2.6.34 running 10.04 LTS.  Have an older machine running a different distribution and kernel 2.6.18, work
[20:43] <chill9> s fine.
[20:43] <Vbitz> is there any knowen poblems with the hp mini 210 under ubuntu 10.04
[20:44] <NinoScript> Is there a centrilized way to change keybindings for every app?
[20:44] <Guest86627> Hey guys I can't connect to my home network, what should I do? Its unsecured and there's no mac filtering
[20:44] <Docteh> sevenseeker: google has been giving my friend better results recently, it might not be you ;)
[20:44] <Cynthia> noric: command: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup-upgrade; sudo sed -i 's/karmic/lucid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:44] <Guest86627> I'm on root btw would that effect it in anyway?
[20:44] <hmw> Guest86627: how are you trying to connect?
[20:44] <hmw> !details | Guest86627
[20:44] <meco> What is an easy-to-use draw application for someone who has no experience drawing?
[20:45] <noric> Cynthia: I am running 8.04.  You suppose the substitution will still work?
[20:45] <xx> test
[20:45] <Cynthia> noric: if you're on 8.04, then s/hardy/lucid/g instead
[20:45] <hmw> xx: passed
[20:45] <Ahmuck> got a grub problem on 10.04
[20:45] <Docteh> meco: tuxpaint!
[20:45] <nhak> are there any app to take screenshot in ubuntu ?
[20:45] <OttifantSir> A question asked by Sam_Fisher: How do I add extra destinations to the Copy to: and Move to: right click commands? And one I would like answered too, since that would be most helpful since Iusually move files between only a few places.
[20:45] <hmw> nhak: just press ALT-Print
[20:45] <meco> Docteh: Ok. Does it have a support IRC channel also?
[20:45] <Cynthia> nhak: gnome-screenshot - or PrintScreen key
[20:45] <OttifantSir> nhak: You can also try Shutter
[20:45] <NinoScript> nhak, or Accesories -> Take Screenshot
[20:46] <meco> Docteh: Is it easier to learn than the OpemOffice drawing app?
[20:46] <dabaR> I want to do a backup from Ubuntu One. How do I do it?
[20:46] <nhak> NinoScropt, i dont use gnome, need a command to take screenshot
[20:46] <OttifantSir> nhak: Compiz has Super+Button1 for quick screenshot of a marked area of screen
[20:46] <nhak> Cynthiam thanks
[20:46] <nhak> thanks all
[20:46] <Cynthia> OttifantSir + Sam_Fisher: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417978&highlight=nautilus+actions
[20:46] <nhak> i got it
[20:47] <Ahmuck> !pastebin
[20:47] <Guest86627> I have a problem connecting to my network I'm on karmic and logged in via gnome with root please don't give me a lecture on it, I'm well aware of the risks
[20:47] <hmw> OttifantSir: I don't know, but I know, that you have your own folder for adding scripts in ... stand by
[20:47] <NinoScript> nahk, yes I use what OttifantSir says :)
[20:47] <Docteh> meco: tuxpaint is a kids app, it should be pretty easy to use
[20:47] <meco> Docteh: OK!
[20:47] <OttifantSir> Cynthia: Thanks!
[20:47] <Ahmuck> i've got a grub problem - http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:47] <Nilos> I am setting up a wireless connection in wicd.Wicd sees the connection, but I cant seem to connect even after entering the encryption.What am I missing?
[20:47] <Ahmuck> need help
[20:47] <guntbert> Guest86627: no lecture -- just don't do it
[20:47] <Docteh> Ahmuck: you need to link the paste itself, not where you pasted it
 where can I read it
[20:48] <Roasted> Does Network Manager have an option somewhere to refresh the network list like WICD and Windows do? It's VERY handy to hit refresh and see all updated networks in the area.
[20:48] <Roasted> Also - Does anybody know if WICD can share internet connections?
[20:48] <m3asmi> Cynthia: where can I read i
[20:48] <Guest86627> Guntbert, I have my reasons for using it, sudo won't suffice now can anyone help me?
[20:48] <Cynthia> m3asmi: I don't understand that :(
[20:48] <hmw> OttifantSir: ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[20:49] <Roasted> sudo wont suffice?
[20:49] <Roasted> o.O
[20:49] <hmw> Roasted: it can
[20:49] <Roasted> that's what I thought...
[20:49] <OttifantSir> hmw: Thanks. I'll check that too
[20:49] <NinoScript> I'm searching for a centralized way of changing apps' key bindings!
[20:49] <Docteh> Guest86627: sudo -i ;)
[20:50] <hmw> OttifantSir: if you find out, how to customize the rest, i'd be happy to learn that too ;-) it could be hard coded perhaps
[20:50] <dabaR> I deleted a sub-dir in my Ubuntu One directory, and I need it back. The files are still available online. How do I restore?
[20:50] <Roasted> no WICD users here?
[20:50] <Scrip> dl the thing
[20:50] <Docteh> Roasted: sorry, never heard of it
[20:50] <hmw> NinoScript: it might be plainly not possible with Ubuntu. What exactly do you want to change?
[20:50] <Guest86627> Docteh, again I have my reasons and for my situation sudo won't work
[20:50] <OttifantSir> hmw: I'll see what I can find out
[20:50] <m3asmi> Cynthia: I'm regestrin in  dyndns.org
[20:50] <Roasted> Docteh, wicd = network manager replacement.
[20:51] <noric> Cynthia: I did that, but I seem to need new gpg keys for lucid.
[20:51] <Cynthia> m3asmi: ah, I see. Read the documentation on dyndns.org, #ubuntu doesn't really provide support for that
[20:51] <Docteh> Guest86627: i dont know what you're wanting to do, have you ever tried sudo -i?
[20:51] <Cynthia> noric: doesn't 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' work? is this what you first tried?
[20:51] <NinoScript> hmw, actually I was just checking if it was possible or not. :)
[20:51] <m3asmi> Cynthia: Ok thinks a loot ;)
[20:51] <guntbert> Guest86627: having a root account activated is not supported here - period
[20:52] <noric> Cynthia: doesnt work. Does not detect the availability of an upgrade.  I am using Dell modified Ubuntu 8.04, on my mini 9.
[20:52] <Ahmuck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/436357/
[20:52] <infid> how can i deal with a .bin/.cue in ubuntu?
[20:52] <Docteh> !burncd
[20:52] <Scrip> DabaR just download the folder
[20:52] <Guest86627> Guntbert answer this then, is the networking feature different on root than nonroot?
[20:52] <Scunizi> Odd audio question.. I have an audio usb device (feeds audio from a stereo receiver linelevel output) .. I can see the device in Pulseaudio volume control and it shows the bouncing line indicating it's registering sound.  However I have no output to the speakers plugged into the computer.. Any assistance?
[20:52] <hmw> NinoScript: you can do quite a lot with Compiz - try     sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager   and check out its possibilities, but that's most certainly not, what you are looking for. There might be other ways, too.
[20:53] <Cynthia> noric: I see. But I haven't encountered an error with dist-upgrade yet. Maybe someone else can help. (noric's problem is that he/she can't update from Hardy to Lucid, there might be known bug reports about this though)
[20:53] <miktunz> mi leggete?
[20:53] <hmw> Scunizi: try alsamixer from the terminal and especially check for muted channels
[20:53] <rocket16> Does the ufw in Ubuntu always run in the background?
[20:53] <infid> Docteh: but is there something like windows' "daemontools" that can mount a cue sheet without me having to burn it to a cd?
[20:54] <rocket16> Or should I need to configure it with gufw?
[20:54] <Scunizi> hmw: yea.. looking at it.. all are up and none muted
[20:54] <miktunz> ey
[20:54] <noric> Cynthia: How do I manually add the GPG keys for the lucid sources.  I did your /s/hardy/lucid, but it seems to be skipping the repos
[20:54] <miktunz> ci sono italiani?
[20:54] <NinoScript> hmw, for example, I would like to change they way I move through tabs in different apps, so everyone has the same shortcut (I love consistency)
[20:54] <infid> rocket16: you can configure it on the commandline with the 'ufw' command
[20:54] <GeekSquid> !it | miktunz
[20:54] <Slart> !mountiso | infid
[20:54] <noric> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en_US
[20:54] <noric> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/restricted Translation-en_US
[20:54] <noric> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en_US
[20:54] <noric> H
[20:54] <FloodBot4> noric: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <noric> ah oops
[20:54] <rocket16> infid: Thanks, but is it running in background all the time?
[20:54] <infid> thanks Slart
[20:55] <infid> rocket16: yeah it's a daemon i think
[20:55] <rocket16> infid: Thanks, :)
[20:55] <infid> rocket16: check the man page to be sure
[20:55] <hmw> rocket16: afaik, ufw is just the frontend for netfilter (or what it is called these days) - sudo iptables -L   will list all current firewall rules. if it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/436360/ your firewall is fully open
[20:55] <Cynthia> noric: I have no idea :(
[20:55] <rocket16> Friends, for a Laptop running Ubuntu, is there any need for a Firewall running all the time?
[20:55] <noric> Cynthia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/436362/
[20:55] <toader> Hi, i am using logical volumn under Fedora, I want to install ubuntu. Is the logical volumn disk still reusable? thanks
[20:55] <Guest86627> Guntbert answer this then, is the networking feature different on root than nonroot?
[20:56] <Cynthia> noric: the keys are in the ubuntu-keyring package, you might have to update that first
[20:56] <Docteh> rocket16: firewall concept is different on windows vs linux
[20:56] <sebsebseb> rocket16: hrm,  Ubuntu doesn't tend to use LVM, however as far as I know it can use LVM
[20:56] <sebsebseb> !lvm | rocket16
[20:56] <hmw> rocket16: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[20:56] <guntbert> !attitude | Guest86627
[20:57] <Nilos> I am setting up a wireless connection in wicd.Wicd sees the connection, but I cant seem to connect even after entering the encryption.What am I missing?
[20:57] <Sam_Fisher> How do I add extra destinations to the Copy to: and Move to: right click commands?
[20:57] <sebsebseb> rocket16: oh I messaged compelty the wrong person
[20:57] <JoshuaL> whenever i plug in a external speaker set at my laptop i have to manually change the output connector via sound preferences, how can i solve this so it does it automaticly like it should be>
[20:57] <sebsebseb> toader: ok messaged compeltly the wrong person there, see above :)
[20:57] <rocket16> sebsebseb: No problem, :)
[20:57] <hmw> rocket16: the NetFilter (or how it is called today) is a kernel module, it extends the TCP stack, so it is always "running"
[20:57] <Guest86627> Guntbert it was merely a question, I'm sure you know the answer just because it isn't supported doesn't mean you can't give a pointer for me to follow
[20:58] <Guest86627> Is there a program for ubuntu similar to powerpill for archlinux where it pipelines downloads?
[20:58] <Docteh> Sam_Fisher: i dont think thats commonly done, you might have to try google, which file manager are you using, konqeror nautilus or thunar?
[20:58] <yoritomo> hello all
[20:58] <rocket16> hmw and Docteh: Thanks. I hope there is no need for another GUI firewall then,
[20:58] <rocket16> !hi | yoritomo
[20:59] <yoritomo> where to find the deb libares-gift for lucid ?
[20:59] <toader> sebsebseb: what
[20:59] <guntbert> Guest86627: by starting X as root you probably messed with several permissions, changed your system in a not easy to see way - so I cannot guess what is wrong
[20:59] <sebsebseb> toader: I sent a message to someone else instead of you basically saying that Ubuntu doesn't tend to use LVM, but I think that it can.
[20:59] <sebsebseb> toader: then I did the lvm factoid
[21:00] <sebsebseb> !lvm | toader
[21:00] <hmw> rocket16: a nice GUI for the firewall (nb how i phrased it) is FireStarter. You should not need a special configuration for your firewall, if you are behind a router. You should consider using a firewall, if your PC is acting as a router or internet connection sharing box, or if you have to suspect, that certain services may be available to neighbour computers, and you dont want that.
[21:00] <reenignEesreveR> facebook.com has been banned in my country. I have ubuntu based servers in US. Could I install a piece of software (tunnel, proxy, anything) so that whenever i access facebook.com, i gets routed via a tunneled connection through my server transparently, otherwise all traffic goes through normal route
[21:00] <Daniel2> hey
[21:00] <Docteh> redhats automatic use of lvm is annoying
[21:00] <Guest86627> Guntbert your correct, I made the foolish mistake of running xinit via vnc and now I have to reinstall gnome because nobody here knows how to fix it
[21:01] <rocket16> hmw: Ah, really my thanks for the info. :) I will do that.
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Daniel2: oh?
[21:01] <hmw> Guest86627: you get what you paid for
[21:01] <Daniel2> I have a question with changing from xp to unbuntu
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Daniel2: not you
[21:01] <yoritomo> nobody know where to find libares-gift for lucid ?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Docteh: oh?
[21:01] <hmw> !ask | Daniel2
[21:01] <chkdsk> If I dual boot Ubuntu/Windows XP using Wubi, will there be performance issues on XP?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> silly autocomplete at times!
[21:01] <Sam_Fisher> chkdsk, nope
[21:01] <Docteh> reenignEesreveR: ssh/openvpn + squid
[21:02] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: no, but if you use Wubi, there will be performance issues on Ubuntu,  you may not notice them though
[21:02] <toader> Hi, how to install ubuntu from ISO on disk, not CD. thanks
[21:02] <Sam_Fisher> chkdsk, can't you just commit to the real power in this Universe **UBUNTU**
[21:02] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: that's one reason why it's better to use a proper partitioend install instead :)
[21:02] <kimus> hi, who is responsible for the lists.ubuntu.com? i'm from a locoteam and I need to to fix a problem
[21:02] <Guest86627> Hmw indeed, lesson learned but as I was saying,is there anything similar to powerpill?
[21:02] <Daniel2> How would I know if my computer is compatitable with ubuntu?
[21:02] <Docteh> reenignEesreveR: if you've got apache doing https that might also be a solution, just make sure your servers getting banned from where you are isn't a big deal ;)
[21:02] <chkdsk> A partitioned install requires I commit to the install
[21:02] <Slart> !usb | toader
[21:02] <guntbert> Guest86627: without an enabled root account that probably wouldn't have happened -- I feel with you but have no help to offer -- sorry
[21:02] <hmw> toader: i think you cant, you need to burn that iso. If you are a uber-geek you might do some weird chroot stuff, but in this case you wouldnt be asking here ;-)
[21:03] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: yes and most people don't want to just get rid of Ubuntu either, once they have tried it
[21:03] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: in fact many will want to get rid of Windows once trying it
[21:03] <hmw> toader: the USB thumb drive is a nice option, of course
[21:03] <Slart> toader: it might also be possible to do some weird things with grub2.. I think it can mount an iso.. but if you ask me it's not worth the trouble
[21:03] <wildbat> Daniel2, try the Live CD Session
[21:03] <Roasted> Does anybody know if WICD can share internet connections?
[21:03] <Docteh> sebsebseb: I've been playing with linux over iscsi recently, with ubuntu i can mount the image on my fileserver if I need/want to, with an LVM its a bit more complicated
[21:03] <hmw> Guest86627: i wish i could help you :(
[21:03] <Daniel2> okay
[21:03] <hmw> Roasted: wicd can share them
[21:04] <Guest86627> Guntbert the same would have happened with sudo, can you take a guess that if I reinstall gnome it would fix the permissions or is it most likely down to x11
[21:04] <Roasted> hmw, so I can have WICd on a desktop and share a connection to another desktop?
[21:04] <chkdsk> sebsebseb: I've been using Ubuntu for a few days and if I was forced to make the choice, windows would win outright. I'm a gamer :P
[21:04] <Docteh> Roasted: wicd sounds like a gui app, is there an option in there for it? probe around. if not do it outside of wicd
[21:04] <reenignEesreveR> Docteh, how would ssh+openvpn do that? i wanna do it for a particular site
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Docteh: iscsi sounds familur, but whats that?
[21:04] <Daniel2> Could you provide me with a link please
[21:04] <Roasted> chkdsk, I'm a hardcore gamer. And a hardcore Ubuntu'r.
[21:04] <brontosaurusrex> reenignEesreveR: google for 'squid'
[21:04] <Daniel2> I have a problem finding things.
[21:04] <Roasted> chkdsk, some users turn on an xbox and change the channel to game. I reboot to windoze. Windows has no relevance in my life beyond that.
[21:04] <reenignEesreveR> brontosaurusrex, what client would i use with squid?
[21:04] <guntbert> Guest86627: sorry -- never happened to me -- so I never tried - so no idea
[21:04] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: this idea that Ubuntu  or other Linux distros sucks for gaming, isn't really  true
[21:04] <Docteh> reenignEesreveR: well for a particular site ie facebook you'd have to set that in the browser
[21:04] <hmw> Roasted: right, but i havent used wicd in a while, so i cant tell you exactly where to click. should be quite obvious, though. Perhaps a web search will help you.
[21:05] <wildbat> !dowbload | Daniel2
[21:05] <Roasted> chkdsk, once Steam goes full bore (I hope) and games come simultaneously to steam platforms across win/pc/linux (I hope) I wont use windows anymore.
[21:05] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: since there are quite a lot of good native games, plus  it is possible to have a lot of Windows games working well in Wine
[21:05] <Guest86627> Is there a program for ubuntu similar to powerpill for archlinux where it pipelines downloads?
[21:05] <Roasted> hmw, I was just curious if it had the capability.
[21:05] <brontosaurusrex> reenignEesreveR: browser, ftp and some i imagine
[21:05] <wildbat> !download | Daniel2
[21:05] <hmw> Roasted: i did it with wicd once
[21:05] <donavan01> is there a linux replacement for peerblock/peergaurdian
[21:05] <chkdsk> Most of the games I play are windows only. I am not going to use Wine just to play the games when they actually perform nicer in actual Windows
[21:05] <Roasted> hmw, do you know if you can tether a smartphone to a laptop w/ wicd and give it connection? Is that different than standard ICS?
[21:05] <sebsebseb> !games | chkdsk
[21:05] <Poseidon_99> pidgin crashes ! with facebook plugin
[21:05] <Docteh> reenignEesreveR: squid is a proxy server, you'd use a web browser with it, you could use one browser force facebook and another browser for regular stuffs
[21:05] <Daniel2> okay
[21:05] <hmw> Roasted: i dont know, i assume it is different
[21:06] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: also apparnatly its better to play games on a console than on a PC
[21:06] <reenignEesreveR> brontosaurusrex, if i put squid as my proxy server in my browser, then all the sites will be browsed via the proxy... i just want one site to pass through proxy
[21:06] <Roasted> sebsebseb, highly disagreed. console gaming feels extremely boring compared to PC. Just my opinion.
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Roasted: right, but playing games in Windows sucks,  since using Windows sucks :D
[21:06] <Docteh> sebsebseb: iscsi is scsi disk commands routed over tcp/ip, AoE might make more sense but ubuntu doesn't support it in the installer
[21:06] <hmw> ++ Roasted
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Roasted: ok using Windows can be ok,  but  not that many exceptions
[21:07] <Roasted> sebsebseb, I agree. I just use windows as my gaming OS. Besides that, it doesnt see the light of day.
[21:07] <Docteh> oh, aoe is ata commands over ethernet, less overhead and no routability
[21:07] <Roasted> sebsebseb, surprisingly I have quite a few issues for the little I do in windows. However, I AM running Vista.
[21:07] <hmw> !ot | nice topic, but
[21:07] <brontosaurusrex> reenignEesreveR: no idea, i would install a second browser just for that if there would be no decent settings for that
[21:07] <noric> How does apt-get select my architecture, to set the update path? i.e. hardy-updates/main/binary-lpia  -> 404 Not Found.  I want to set architecture to i386 or whatever so it works
[21:07] <ReformedWinrar> is it possible to have pulseaudio not suck?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: a lot of games will work in a WIndows virtual machine also
[21:07] <hmw> ReformedWinrar: almost impossible
[21:07] <Docteh> ReformedWinrar: not really
[21:07] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: ok  3D gaming is a bit hrm at the moment, but that's getting there,  and depending on your hardware, that may work well now
[21:07] <ReformedWinrar> its constantly making randome noises on my stereo and scaring the crap out of me at 3am
[21:08] <ReformedWinrar> bummer
[21:08] <chkdsk> Why virtual machine windows, when I can actually run windows?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: most or all 2D games for Windows though, I expect will work well in a Windows virtual machine
[21:08] <guntbert> sebsebseb: mind the topic please
[21:08] <reenignEesreveR> brontosaurusrex, actually i have a few scripts as well ... they'll also need to be recoded ... i wanna make it as transparent as possible
[21:08] <noric> How does apt-get select my architecture, to set the update path? i.e. hardy-updates/main/binary-lpia  -> 404 Not Found.  I want to set architecture to i386 or whatever so it works
[21:08] <Docteh> ReformedWinrar: shut it down and try and live without it running? :-/
[21:08] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: so dual boot with Windows if you want, and use that for gaming,  and  a Linux distro, for actsaul computing?
[21:08] <ReformedWinrar> Docteh: it works just like esd? so i can be fine without it?
[21:08] <chkdsk> Also, openoffice doesn't really compare to Word 2007
[21:08] <hmw> chkdsk: because you might actually work on a real OS while being forced to use that single windows app. Or your'e a web designer using a bazillion different browsers
[21:08] <Guest86627> Does ubuntu have something similar to system restore for windows where it restores everything to a previous date
[21:09] <ReformedWinrar> chkdsk: for all the features that matters, they are comparable
[21:09] <Docteh> ReformedWinrar: aye, might have programs not able to get sound card though
[21:09] <wildbat> !backup | Guest86627
[21:09] <ReformedWinrar> Docteh: thanks
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: no, but maybe the next version of Ubuntu, or   if not probably the one after that,  it seems that it will have something even better by default.  However yeah got to wait six months to a year or something like that first.
[21:10] <nostriluu> hi #ubuntu.. trying to install 10.04 server on a dell poweredge r300 (SAS drives).. install seemed to go ok but it boots to grub error.. thoughts ?
[21:10] <Ernz> How can I paginate the output of the terminal?
[21:10] <hmw> Guest86627: i dont think it has that built in. I recommend you make at least 2 partitions, one for the root file system ("/") and one for "/home". Then you can use a USB thumb drive with Ubuntu and partimage (or the CloneZilla Boot CD) to back up the partitions.
[21:10] <Ernz> To stop it from scrolling everything
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: normally you woudnt need to do a system restore though, like Windows
[21:10] <ReformedWinrar> Docteh: could i replace it with jackd, or does that solve a different problem?
[21:10] <Docteh> Ernz: less long/file or ls -lR | less
[21:10] <Docteh> !less
[21:11] <Ernz> Docteh, beautiful, thanks
[21:11] <guntbert> Ernz: try  <your command> | less    --- type 'q' to quit that viewer
[21:11] <compaq> what the heck, anyone install librfxswf-dev?  I can't figure it out, I don't have any of those programs on the shell
[21:11] <hmw> Guest86627: btw, you can use that partimage/ubuntu thumb drive to create an image of your windows partition, too. I couldnt live without that
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: Whats gone wrong anyway?
[21:11] <Ernz> gunbert: that's got it, thanks
[21:12] <rn86> oulla.. ce fut rapide...  (omg, it had been so fast)
[21:12] <guntbert> !fr | rn86
[21:13] <rn86> i got it thx
[21:13] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb, I just uninstalled almost everything gui related firefox, gnome, all my servers, the config files, synaptics package manager etc.
[21:13] <rn86> where can I find a tuto of how to IRC ?
[21:13] <exalt> hello i installed ubuntu minimal 10.04, and i installes links2 how do i display pictures?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: ok this doesnt sound good, why did you do that?
[21:13] <exalt> do i need a framebuffer?
[21:13] <m3asmi> who is Raymond Smullyan
[21:13] <LjL> exalt: yes (or X)
[21:13] <hmw> Guest86627: lol... did you leave anything on your drive?
[21:14] <exalt> LjL: can you advice a frame buffer?
[21:14] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb, I was reinstalling x11 and didn't realize it takes everything with it, and hmw, its not funny
[21:14] <exalt> next to x LjL
[21:14] <LjL> exalt: ehm, there's only one framebuffer...?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: hmv?
[21:14] <guntbert> rn86: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:14] <hmw> exalt: most people wont need it. If you are geeky, and want to use the console, you can utilize the frame buffer for displaying video or even compile firefox to run without any GUI in fbmode
[21:14] <rn86> thx again.
[21:14] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb a person
[21:15] <rocket16> rn86: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47221
[21:15] <hmw> Guest86627: i was trying to cheer you up, sorry...
[21:15] <ioi2010> i've got a question
[21:15] <ioi2010> i'm creating my own distro
[21:15] <ioi2010> using remastersys
[21:15] <hmw> !ask | ioi2010
[21:15] <Docteh> ioi2010: you have punctuation on your keyboard fyi ;)
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: yeah xorg is important, you don't want to mess with  that, unless you really have to, why were you?
[21:16] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb if I upgrade to lucid would it reinstall all the preinstalled stuff?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: which version were you on?
[21:16] <ioi2010> how can i change the default wallpaper
[21:16] <ioi2010> so that the live cd will use the new one
[21:16] <ioi2010> ???
[21:16] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb permissions problem I ran xinit as root through vnc, and karmic
[21:16] <hmw> ioi2010: /usr/share/backgrounds
[21:16] <Slart> ioi2010: it's probably a setting somewhere in the gnome config registry
[21:16] <Cynthia> ioi2010:  please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[21:16] <Docteh> ioi2010: just replace the file, or search around for where its referenced and change the reference
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: yes if you got ubuntu-desktop installed, and then upgrade to Lucid, it might re install  the other stuff whilst doing so
[21:16] <Slart> ioi2010: if you're lazy I think it might be easiest to just replace the file
[21:16] <ioi2010> right
[21:17] <Cynthia> Specifically, Custom Background for GNOME section
[21:17] <ioi2010> so the problem seems to be
[21:17] <ioi2010> that remastersys erases /home
[21:17] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb are you sure it will?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: I said might
[21:17] <ioi2010> so...
[21:17] <ioi2010> i think i need something more
[21:17] <ioi2010> than simply
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: also maybe if you install kubuntu-desktop for example, it will install other stuff and KDE
[21:17] <exalt> hmw: i want to be that geeky :p  but what do i need to install so links2 will display?
[21:17] <Cynthia> !enter | ioi2010
[21:17] <hmw> Guest86627: it will _try_  that is certain. I do not recommend upgrading, installing freshly is always more safe
[21:17] <ioi2010> srry
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: then you could purekde, and then do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or something I guess
[21:17] <ioi2010> i'm new in this
[21:18] <sebsebseb> !purekde | Guest86627
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: uh puregnome I mean,  I am just guessing here though
[21:18] <Vbitz> so far my hp mini 210 is working out of the box with ubuntu
[21:18] <hmw> exalt: you will not have to install anything, i suppose, since you are forced into fbmode anyways with ubuntu. You have to pass a parameter to links2 though, in order for it to use the fb
[21:18] <sebsebseb> !puregnome | Guest86627
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: plus probably some other way you can re install xorg and so on anyway
[21:19] <chkdsk> I see that on the Linux Gamer's list you've linked me to, there's only 2 MMORPGs
[21:19] <Guest86627> Does lucid use the new gnome?
[21:19] <shoto68> im having an instalation on external hard drive probem can anyone help???
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: yes
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: and their  nonupstream Gnome edits
[21:19] <Docteh> chkdsk: theres a linux gamers list? can you link that
[21:19] <exalt> hmw: hmmmm i only see alot blabberish text when i select an image to display
[21:19] <chkdsk> http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:19] <hmw> exalt: let me check
[21:19] <chkdsk> I was linked to this earlier
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: or just clean install, probably better, since your sysetm got messed up a lot
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest86627: what version do you consider "new"
[21:20] <chkdsk> Okay, so looking at this list, the "linux games" are games ported to linux, and not actually games made for linux. For the most part, anyway.
[21:21] <Guest86627> Actionparsnip, gnome 3
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: 10.04 uses Gnome 2.30 and that's not Gnome 3
[21:21] <shoto68> im having an instalation on external hard drive probem can anyone help???
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: Gnome 3 has been delayed untill  September from April.  also 10.10 won't be using Gnome Shell by default, so it won't have the new look by default, but you could install that yourself,  just like you can install a development version now into 10.04
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> chkdsk: penumbra is coded for Linux and windows, there are many native games on the repos as well as in the getdeb repo
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: under the hood 10.10 will be Gnome 3 though as far as I know
[21:21] <colk> I have a L246WP and a Nvidia card connected via a HDMI-DVI cable I am unable to see the left side of the screen I beleive its overscanning because it does it in Windows 7 as well any ideas?
[21:21] <alessandro1965> hi
[21:21] <Nilos> I cannot connect to my wireless network with wicd, but I see the connection and the devicde.Also the driver is oinstalled.What am I missing?
[21:22] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: 10.04 uses Gnome 2.30
[21:22] <Guest86627> Sebsebseb oh alright
[21:22] <rocket16> :)
[21:22] <anodesni> :P
[21:22] <sebsebseb> Guest86627: oh and Gnome Shell in the repo is old, so you would want a ppa really
[21:22] <hmw> exalt: go to console (ctrl-alt-f1) and log on. then issue:    sudo links2 -g <some URL>    ATTENTION: this just killed my machine! it worked though, but now i cannot go back to GNome!!!
[21:23] <sasquatch1> Hi there, I have an installation issue anyone care to lend a hand?
[21:23] <anodesni> sasquatch1: go ahead
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !ask | sasquatch1
[21:23] <smellynosery> I changed my keyboard layout under System->Preferences->Keyboard, but it's still on the old one. I unticked "Separate layout per window" and I applied it system wide. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[21:23] <exalt> hmw: hmmm i need premissions
[21:24] <sasquatch1> well I have windows 7 installed on 1 harddrive and i just installed linux onto my second harddrive and now i'm getting a boot error when trying to load the windows hardrive?
[21:24] <chkdsk> The majority of the games I play most of the time, are source games (Portal, TF2, Counter Strike: Source, etc) so Linux is not my choice of platform for gaming.
[21:24] <sasquatch1> i didn't think there would be an issue since they are on separate drives
[21:24] <anodesni> sasquatch1: could you be more specific about the error?
[21:24] <hmw> exalt: that's right
[21:24] <rocket16> :)
[21:24] <hmw> exalt: well... it just killed my Karmic, Ubuntu is not really made for Console Geeks
[21:24] <sasquatch1> anodesni: i cannot boot into windows 7
[21:25] <anodesni> sasquatch1: do you have a backup partition for windows 7, or a repair partition
[21:25] <sebsebseb> hmw: heh yeah I guess,  since other distros are made for those really
[21:25] <sasquatch1> anodesni: i have the windows install disk and tried to do a repair but did not seem to do the job
[21:25] <anodesni> sasquatch1: but, do you have a repair partition?
[21:25]  * rocket16 doesn't understand why people still use Windows, other than gaming purposes
[21:25] <chkdsk> I want to be optimistic about games on Ubuntu, but that last time I attempted 3D gaming on Linux my PC locked up completely which wasn't pleasant
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest86627: I suggest you look at: http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone/   it won't be out for a long while
[21:25] <hmw> exalt: i have to reboot via ssh :( Ubuntu sometimes sucks big time
[21:25] <sasquatch1> anodesni: no I do not unfortunately.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: bespoke applications may only run in a windows environment
[21:26] <anodesni> sasquatch1: do you get an error message?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> rocket16: vender lock in thats why, or having app that won't just work in Wine,  that they think they must have, since they can't find or don't know about a good enough native Linux version, or simpally there isn't one
[21:26] <sasquatch1> anodesni: yes i do, something along the lines of not able to boot and should use repair disk
[21:26] <sasquatch1> anodesni: which is what I tried.
[21:26] <anodesni> sasquatch1: but Ubuntu boots? then I think grub points to the wrong partition
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: windows like linux is a tool for a job, if windows does the job better than it should be used, the same applies to mac and bsd also, linux isnt always the answer
[21:27] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: there are quite a few good native Linux 3D games :)
[21:27] <sasquatch1> anodesni: i thought they would be completely separate since they are on two separate drives
[21:27] <exalt> hmw: sad:(
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> chkdsk: look into penumbra and urban terror
[21:27] <st3d45h> hi, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and it was working fine, however once i enabled the nvidia driver im stuck a resolution of 800x600. i searched on the internet but couldnt find a solution that worked. could anybody help?
[21:27] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Ha ha, but it is developing. Anyway, but this might be offtopic, for both of us, :(
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> chkdsk: doom3 also runs natively in linux, as does return to castle wolfenstein
[21:27] <hmw> wut?? "Master" in alsamixer has no effect, i have to reduce PCM?? what is going on here?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: its  fact though ;)
[21:28] <chkdsk> I'm not really interested at all in Penumbra. It's a horror game, I like to play online with friends
[21:28] <rocket16> chkdsk: Here is a nice article for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427205
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> chkdsk: urbanterror is multiplayer only :)
[21:28] <exalt> using sudo sto surf is dangerous isnt it?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> rocket16: noobs tend to be locked into propritary software,  and have this idea that gaming sucks on Linux, which isn't true
[21:28] <rocket16> chkdsk: I mean, about best Ubuntu games.
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !games
[21:28] <rocket16> sebsebseb: I agree.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: best is an opinion so is never concrete
[21:29] <anodesni> sasquatch1: maybe you can post your grub config on pastebin?
[21:29] <Loshki> exalt: dangerous and unnecessary...
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> exalt: yes its massively foolish to run web browsers as root
[21:29] <ioi2010> thanks everybody
[21:29] <sasquatch1> sure
[21:29] <exalt> then how the heck i use framebuffer without being root??:p
[21:29] <chkdsk> In terms of quality, nothing comes close to CS:S/TF2 the two games I play most often. Nothing close to that kind of entertainment runs native on linux as far as I know. I *adore* steam, but nothing like it has appeared on Linux. As far as I know, anyway.
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> exalt: maybe its a group membership
[21:30] <nerdy117> can someone help me with 64 bit flash on ubuntu 10.4?
[21:30] <exalt> ActionParsnip: thats what i thought, it uses libvga
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> chkdsk: urban terror us like cS
[21:30] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: they have done a Steam for Mac, and I have read that Steam for Linux is coming soon
[21:30] <anodesni> nerdy117: to install
[21:30] <anodesni> ?
[21:30] <chkdsk> According to the steam support pages there's no plans for a linux port at all
[21:30] <nerdy117> I tried installing flashplugin-installer from synaptic package manager, but it tells me I have conflicting packages
[21:30] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: But individual opinion matters little, and universal opinion matters. So, since all important servers and systems are drifting towards Linux, it is definitely better than Windows. :) Also, sorry for being offtopic, to all, but I chose to defend Ubuntu.
[21:30] <nerdy117> doesn't say which ones though
[21:31] <anodesni> nerdy117: download the 64 bit version, let me find the link for you
[21:31] <nerdy117> I couldn't find it on adobe's website
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: if the support pages mention Linux, they are probably also rather out to date
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: I have read quite a lot of recent stuff, that is saying that Steam for Linux is coming
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: soon
[21:31] <chkdsk> They were updated when steam for mac was released
[21:31] <nerdy117> I got a 32 bit version though, and I installed it with dpkg -i --force-architecture
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: also you can run Steam in Wine quite well, as far as I know
[21:31] <Nilos> I cannot connect to my wireless network with wicd, but I see the connection and the devicde.Also the device driver is already installed properly.What am I missing?
[21:31] <donavan01> is there a way to get nautilus to show thumbnails or PNG quicker ... I have a large directory with a ton of icons in it and it takes forever to view them everytime I open the folder up
[21:31] <nerdy117> didn't work though
[21:31] <anodesni> wait a sec
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: not if the required apps wil not run on linux, then it is a poor choice, universal opinion is moot. PC stands for personal computer so it should do what the user wants rather than the user changing its needs to fit the most popular OS
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: since quite a lot of people do that
[21:31] <ubuntu_> why O why did I choose to encrypt my home directory
[21:32] <anodesni> nerdy117: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html download it here
[21:32] <sasquatch1> anodesni: http://pastebin.com/ReCZB0zF
[21:32] <Nilos> ActionParsnip,:Oh man1, you're back.Good
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: thats what I think when users DO encrypt. Not worth it
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: sup
[21:32] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Here is a PDF written by me (from various online sources), why Linux is better than Windows. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ynygmlzluzw You might want to read it. Also, isn't our discussion going a bit offtopic?
[21:32] <chkdsk> You can run Steam in wine, but you'd still be lacking the ability to run the games you get from steam. I've also heard a lot about problems with the overlay, which is a pretty major feature
[21:32] <anodesni> nerdy117: make sure 32 bit flash is uninstalled, then unzip the file and move it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
[21:32] <sasquatch1> anodesni: using linux mint btw
[21:32] <nerdy117> I can't uninstall it
[21:32] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip: are you a guru on ecryptfs by any chance? I want to recover my home after a reinstall...
[21:32] <Cube``> i cant seem to be able to export a latex file to pdf, and i cant install pdflatex for some reason :(
[21:32] <Nilos> ActionParsnip,:wicd can now see my cowireless network, but I cant connect to it
[21:32] <anodesni> nerdy117: huh?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: if you must use propritary games,  and won't use Wine or  a Windows virtual machine,  fine just use Windows on a pshyical install for that.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> chkdsk: for actsaul computing though, Linux distros tend to be better :)
[21:33] <nerdy117> I tried removing it with dpkg
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: quite the opposite. I dont use it and have seen too many people fall down after using it
[21:33] <Seraphinou> ('744404233664
[21:33] <chkdsk> Ehhh, this channel is incredibly patronizing .-.
[21:33] <anodesni> nerdy117: why not use synaptic
[21:33] <nerdy117> can't find it though
[21:33] <Vbitz> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 on a hp mini 210 and after i shut it down it froze and i have about 30 errors with hard drive sectors saying like end_request: I/O error, dev sdb
[21:33] <Vbitz> what should i do?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: do you se any encryption for your connection
[21:34] <anodesni> sasquatch1: I see grub says your windows partition is on hdd sdc, (note the c, that should be your 3rd hdd) it that correct?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: boot to livecd and fsck your partitions
[21:34] <hmw> Vbitz: get a new drive, your's is dying
[21:34] <Nilos> ActionParsnip , it asked for an encryption so i gave it the key.But it still didnt connect
[21:34] <Vbitz> it is brand new, i got it yesterday, this is the live cd
[21:34] <sasquatch1> anodesni: no, it is on the 2nd hardrive (only have 2)
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: what encryption do you use?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: drives can be DOA
[21:35] <Cube``> why does pdflatex not work!?!?
[21:35] <hmw> Vbitz: if you see I/O errors it is very much likely, that the drive is badly damaged. Try to get your data off the drive and return it
[21:35] <anodesni> sasquatch1: ok, maybe, I'm not sure you should change "set root='(hd2,1)'" to "set root='(hd1,1)'"
[21:36] <Vbitz> there is no data on the drive, windows worked fine, no problems
[21:36] <anodesni> sasquatch1: that would make more sense, given that windows7 is on your 2nd hdd and 1st partition
[21:36] <donavan01> Vbitz I would try downloading a new image of the cd and see if it does it on the new disc ... try reinstalling ... if you get the same errors again then it probably is hardware
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: check the drive health
[21:36] <sasquatch1> ok, ill give it a shot thanks. though when i choose to run windows it seems to go to the correct drive, just seems to be a problem with the windows bootloader.
[21:36] <Nilos> ActionParsnip , what types are there?
[21:36] <vlt> Hello. In my IM client a buddy appears as "online (invisible)". How is that possible?! I mean, isn't "invisible" supposed to make him invisible?
[21:36] <anodesni> sasquatch1: than this is not the problem
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: you can also download the ultimate boot cd and test the drive using the manufacturers tool to make sure its ok
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: WEP and WPA
[21:37] <hmw> Vbitz: try to restore the filesystem with fsck; do not trust the drive (!!); perhaps another component is damaged, as the controller, but not likely; check temperature of your components, cpu & drive.
[21:37] <exalt> ActionParsnip: chown <user> /dev/fb0 :P
[21:37] <anodesni> sasquatch1: did you install windows after linux, and then installed another linux again?
[21:37] <fox> vlt what protocol is your friend using.
[21:37] <Vbitz> i just pressed enter and it booted filne
[21:37] <sasquatch1> anodesni: ok thats what I thought. I think i'll try running the windwos repair disc again
[21:37] <vlt> fox: We both use icq/aim
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> exalt: does that work?
[21:37] <sasquatch1> anodesni: installed windows on 1 hardrive and then installed linux onto the 2nd harddrive
[21:37] <Nilos> ActionParsnip , I use wep and thats what I set it as.
[21:37] <exalt> ActionParsnip: yes
[21:37] <anodesni> sasquatch1: the windows repair disk worked for me when I had similar problems
[21:37] <ninjafusion> i've got a dumb question. does ubuntu 10.4 have a built in firewall somewhere that i'm not seeing?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> exalt: that will also need sudo
[21:38] <fox> vlt: are you on his visible list?
[21:38] <Vbitz> would it help if i said i did a usb install
[21:38] <anodesni> sasquatch1: you must type in some commandos on the command line, you should google for it
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: cool, should be ok then. Is your system fully updated?
[21:38] <Cynthia> ninjafusion: it's ufw, a frontend to the iptables utility
[21:38] <sasquatch1> anodesni: ok thanks, i'll give it another go. Ok will look for it thanks.
[21:38] <ninjafusion> thanks Cynthia. i'll google and see what i can find
[21:38] <vlt> fox: There's a "visible" list? Then maybe yes ...
[21:38] <Cynthia> let's see first if ubottu has a factoid for that
[21:38] <fox> vlt: i haven't used icq in quite some time, but i do recall a feature that permitted you to show buddies you were online, even if you were invisible.
[21:38] <Cynthia> !ufw
[21:38] <anodesni> sasquatch1: maybe this bootrec.ece/fixmbr
[21:38] <anodesni> bootrec.exe/fixboot
[21:38] <donavan01> vbitz ... did you install it to the USB or from the USB?
[21:38] <nerdy117> oh lawdy. it works
[21:39] <hmw> Vbitz: hard disks have their own mini-operating system built in. They also have quite a large area of spare sectors, that can replace damaged sectors. They should never report bad sectors to the OS (which would mean, they consumed all spare sectors already). If I am getting I/O errors on a HDD, i immediately shut down and replace it without question
[21:39] <sasquatch1> anodesni: thanks.
[21:39] <nerdy117> thanks anodesni
[21:39] <anodesni> sasquatch1: or "Use easyBCD and you can recreate your boot record."
[21:39] <ink> Where is the syntax of the files in /etc/init/ defined?  (eg, gdm.conf)
[21:39] <nerdy117> you're a true bro
[21:39] <ninjafusion> thanks again Cynthia
[21:39] <fox> vlt: if that's the case, that might be why he's showing up but yet designated as invisible.
[21:39] <anodesni> nerdy117: nice
[21:39] <Nilos> ActionParsnip , upgrading to lucid now
[21:39] <vlt> fox: I understand. Thank you.
[21:39] <fox> vlt: np
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: might be groovy
[21:39] <isomerc> nigger
[21:39] <hmw> ink: i think those are plain bash scripts.... man bash
[21:40] <Vbitz> install from usb, it is acting as if it is not mounted
[21:40] <SARO> hey guys i managed to make my wlan card work with an ndiswrapper and a windows driver, now i have to run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime before it works, where could i put that so that it happens on every startup?
[21:40] <Vbitz> how would i check if it is mounted
[21:40] <ink> hmw:  no, they aren't just bash scripts
[21:40] <ink> bash has no "description" reserved name
[21:41] <donavan01> vbitz normally when you plug a usb drive in an icon will appear on the desktop and its mounted
[21:41] <Vbitz> the usb drive is fine
[21:41] <hmw> ink: i just saw... no idea...
[21:41] <afancy> Hi
[21:42] <Cynthia> hmw / ink: are you talking about init.d scripts?
[21:42] <hmw> Cynthia: no, /etc/init/*
[21:42] <ink> no, Cynthia, those really are bash scripts
[21:42] <Cynthia> hmw: ah. then yeah, they're Upstart scripts
[21:42] <hmw> ink: you could try finding out, what programs are reading those
[21:42] <Cynthia> @ whoever: man upstart
[21:42] <hmw> ah!
[21:42] <hmw> thanks
[21:42] <linxeh> Does anyone know about running a quakeworld server on ubuntu 64bit ?
[21:43] <SARO> hey i finally managed to make my wlan card work with an ndiswrapper and a windows driver, now i have to run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime before it works, where could i put that so that it happens on every startup?!
[21:43] <trism> SARO: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[21:43] <dios_mio> Cynthia, girls cant do linux (or anything technical).. just like white people cannot dance... :P
[21:43] <owen1>  thdttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttiuee
[21:43] <SARO> cool thx trism
[21:43] <VirusTB> any known RhythmBox iPhone remotes?? (control playback over wifi with an iPhone) ??
[21:43] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? thanks
[21:43] <anodesni> SARO: I know of a file /etc/rc.local where you can put commands that are tun on boot
[21:43] <Cynthia> dios_mio: ignored
[21:43] <dios_mio> lol :D
[21:44] <anodesni> sardonyx: what trism said was better
[21:44] <SARO> trism: there was only "lp"
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: theres a web interface for VLC which can be controlled from may devices including crappy iphones
[21:44] <SARO> anodesni: ok thanks i think /etc/modules sounds good
[21:44] <SARO> ok
[21:44] <neodemi> does anyone know of an easy way to install glibc 2.11, it doesnt appear to be in the standard repositories
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | neodemi
[21:44] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  lol i love my crappy iphone :P .. which web interface is that for VLC?..
[21:44] <VirusTB> care to share it with me :D ActionParsnip
[21:45] <impr0> hello
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: its in VLC already just enable it
[21:45] <Vbitz> the disk program is reporting a healthy drive, i am running analasis now
[21:45] <SARO> trism: also if i put usb sticks in ubuntu does not auto mount them! and if i do sudo fdisk -l it does not show them either!
[21:45] <jrib> neodemi: why that particular version?
[21:45] <SARO> what is wrong there?
[21:45] <piper69> pastebinit script is broken
[21:45] <SARO> i want them to be automounted
[21:45] <hmw> piper69: right. :(
[21:45] <piper69> hmw: how to fix it
[21:45] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? thank
[21:45] <impr0> if it doeanst recogniye its there
[21:45] <Vbitz> could it be a problem with the ramdisk
[21:45] <SARO> why does it not show my usb stick
[21:45] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  VLC|| Tools > Preferences >> ?????
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: theres also this for rhythmnbox http://code.google.com/p/rhythmote/
[21:46] <hmw> piper69: write another... for use with paste.ubuntu.com. have fun with    man bash   *smirks*
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: there are guides all over, i havent done it for ages ut it does exits
[21:46] <jrib> neodemi: and 2.11 seems to be the default version from the repositories anyway... What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[21:46] <SARO> oh actually it worked now
[21:46] <hmw> piper69: i have no idea... it has been so for quite a while now. Perhaps mail the author?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpNoCB-Ywo
[21:46] <SARO> before it didn't work
[21:46] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? thanks
[21:46] <SARO> strange
[21:47] <SARO> hey my sound does not work in flash in the browser
[21:47] <SARO> how can i fix it?
[21:48] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  lol after that youtube video i might need glasses... but i think i found it :D
[21:48] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? than
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: it shows what to do
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: you can then install a vlc remote app on your phone and control stuff
[21:48] <neodemi> jrib, I am trying to run tomenet, which is throwing up errors about not having glibc 2.11 installed
[21:49] <ink> awesome; "Once you're up and running, you'll want to start writing your own jobs. Note that the job file format is not stable yet, so if you upgrade upstart later, you may need to fix existing files."
[21:49] <ink> no docs
[21:49] <jrib> neodemi: just a word of caution, installing a different version of libc6 is a great way to break a system
[21:49] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? than
[21:50] <rab13s> tthe most solid root password I ever had was 123456
[21:50] <anodesni> rab13s: no, it is ""
[21:50] <SARO> hey my sound does not work in flash in the browser how can i fix it
[21:50] <abal9002> how to reduce the size of .iso generated with remastersys
[21:50] <Cube``> rab13s: same for paypal?
[21:51] <Loshki> piper69: it's a known problem, there is a bug open, it's being addressed...
[21:51] <jrib> neodemi: can you pastebin exactly what you are doing and what the output is?
[21:51] <neodemi> thanks jrib ill see if theres an alternative solution to glibc 2.11/ i dont want anything to bork
[21:51] <rab13s> anodesni: I had "" for awhile, but my dog kept breaking in, its really hard to clean the shit off the keyboard
[21:51] <anodesni> hahah
[21:51] <rab13s> =]
[21:52] <Cube``> i cant export latex to pdf!! why?
[21:52] <Loshki> anodesni: rab13s: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please...
[21:52] <jcrawford> hey guys my FF keeps hanging on me giving me the greyed out screen for minutes at a time, sometimes upwards of 5 minutes.  Any thoughts on what I could do to figure out why it is doing this?
[21:52] <jrib> Cube``: how are you trying?
[21:52] <anodesni> rab13s: at my university they suffer from Chinese hackers (true), but I wonder how they hack the root password with their chinese characters??
[21:52] <Cube``> jrib: with org-mode. also tried compiling pdflatex
[21:52] <rab13s> hahahahahahahaha
[21:52] <CasualWalker> can any one help to fix the brightness control on my lenovo laptop?
[21:52] <jrib> Cube``: you installed texlive?  What happens exactly when you attempt to run pdflatex?
[21:52] <afancy> Now i am using liveusb to install ubuntu, but i have used LVM2 to manage serveral partitions. When i proceed to the parpare partitions step, there is no LVM2 options. Could anybody help me? than
[21:53] <rab13s> in chinal its called the "loot"
[21:53] <anodesni> CasualWalker: Ati or Nvidia?
[21:53] <rab13s> "you wan loot access"
[21:53] <Slart> !ot | rab13s
[21:53] <CasualWalker> anodesni.. its Nvidia
[21:53] <anodesni> CasualWalker: maybe it's because of the Nouveau driver
[21:53] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  whats "Ubuntu (IBEX) "  ??
[21:53] <rab13s> ok everyone have a good afternoon! im out!
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | VirusTB
[21:54] <neodemi> jrib, i have downloaded the tomenet linux client from here: http://www.tomenet.net/downloads.php which has a prebuilt binary, and have tried running that, which results in the followwing error: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6FvUGzhZ
[21:54] <CasualWalker> anodesni, i checked on the net, all are leading to reporting bug, none has been solved :(
[21:54] <eddvrs> guys- can you please advise. I want to resize my windows partition, but will have to resizer and move another partition on the same disc. Is this possible, can it be done with gparted and ios tehre anything I should take into consideration so that I don't lose data?
[21:54] <Bookman> I cannot seem to get my DVD player to work on my laptop.  I have the ubuntu-extras installed.
[21:55] <Glacer> anyone running Gdesklet on 10.04?
[21:55] <anodesni> CasualWalker: that's the risk of living on the edge
[21:55] <Cube``> jrib: http://www.pastebin.org/255410 and thanks for helping
[21:55] <jrib> neodemi: I see.  Have you tried just compiling it?
[21:55] <Slart> What is the status of ATI graphics drivers these days? useful at all?
[21:55] <Slart> I mean for the later models of their cards
[21:55] <anodesni> Slart: it's ok
[21:55] <jrib> Cube``: install texlive-latex-extra
[21:55] <neodemi> no, im downloading the source now to try it
[21:55] <jcrawford> hey guys my FF keeps hanging on me giving me the greyed out screen for minutes at a time, sometimes upwards of 5 minutes.  Any thoughts on what I could do to figure out why it is doing this?
[21:56] <CasualWalker> anodesni: so there is no option to fix this thing? my fn with other stuff like volume control, dual monitor, sleep mode, etc works absolutely fine
[21:56] <anodesni> though not all driver versions are consistant in stability
[21:56] <Slart> anodesni: hmm.. well.. if they at least throw in a good version every now and then it should be ok.. =)
[21:56] <anodesni> CasualWalker: did you try gnome power settings? or brightness control panel applet?
[21:56] <SARO> hey where would i download some video codecs i just tried to watch a divx movie and it downloaded some codecs but now i only see blurry lines of colored crap
[21:56] <SARO> where would i get a better codec or player
[21:56] <SARO> i was using totem
[21:56] <Slart> !codecs | SARO
[21:57] <Cube``> jrib: ok, will do. just by the way, its 300 mb of packages getting downloaded and inserted into my system. does it create any performance issues having lots of packages installed? or is the only thing prevent from everybody having every imaginable package the disc size?
[21:57] <SARO> thanks
[21:57] <abal9002> i've got ubuntu 10.04 freezing "randomly" for no aparent reason, always while browing the www. No mouse and no keyboard, though I can ssh from another computer. Any thoughts?
[21:57] <hmw> abal9002: check temperature of your GPU
[21:57] <CasualWalker> anodesni.. nop. all i did was to check in shortcut key from system>preferences.. you mean to say i need to check from power option?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu |SARO
[21:57] <jrib> Cube``: nope, the only thing it will affect is hard drive space, which most people don't really care about these days
[21:57] <Slart> abal9002: checked your memory?
[21:57] <Nilos> ActionParsnip ,Im up to date.But still cannot connect.Is soemthing wrong with my settings?
[21:57] <ultratog> http://xkcd.com/149/
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Nilos: can't see anything amiss
[21:57] <SARO> BluesKaj: ah nice but i can install it? how?
[21:58] <anodesni> CasualWalker: System -> preferences -> power settings
[21:58] <Glacer> Where can I find older .deb install packages at? Without going through installing it manual.
[21:58] <arand_> !repeat | afancy
[21:58] <abal9002> Slart: no, can you be more specific, please? Also, there's nothing in the logs.
[21:58] <Cube``> jrib: oh cool! thanks for helping man. seen you a lot helping on #ubuntu. thanks for that. hope you're getting all that support back somehow
[21:58] <anodesni> CasualWalker: try to change brightness there
[21:58] <hmw> anyone knows, why ubuntu is waking up my external USB HD every now and then for no apparent reason?
[21:58] <BluesKaj> SARO,m go to the medibuntu site , the tutorial is pretty simple
[21:58] <jrib> neodemi: what does « dpkg -S /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 » return by the way?
[21:58] <alexandra> hi there,please someone helps me how to connect connx asurmato
[21:58] <SARO> ok thanks
[21:58] <CasualWalker> yea.. that works fine too.. that is via mouse, but what bout this fn key?
[21:59] <Slart> abal9002: I meant either reboot and select the memory check option in grub.. memtest .. or use one of the other memory checkers in synaptic (there is one you can run without rebooting)
[21:59] <jrib> Cube``: no problem!
[21:59] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: ok partitions
[21:59] <CasualWalker> but anyway anodesni, my 50% of the problem got solved :)
[21:59] <anodesni> CasualWalker: there are a lot of options for that
[21:59] <Slart> abal9002: I had problems with my computer crashing/locking up until I found out I had a bad memory stick.. it only showed rarely because I had quite a lot of memory.. so that stick was rarely used
[21:59] <abal9002> Slart: got it. what should i be looking for?
[21:59] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: so a Windows parttion  for which version? and a partition that has data on it?
[22:00] <SARO> BluesKaj: once i've added the packages what should i choose to install in the software center?
[22:00] <neodemi> jrib >> libc6-i686: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[22:00] <Nilos> ActionParsnip ,I set it to WEP and entered the key.But it still wont connect
[22:00] <hmw> Slart: if one can login via ssh, doesnt that point to a crashed GPU? I heard, since Jaunty Gnome was "overusing" the GPU somehow. Any ideas about that claim?
[22:00] <abal9002> Slart: i don't think it's that. the computer is brand new.
[22:00] <arand_> afancy: There is, as far as I know, no lvm support on the liveCD versions, you will need to get the alternate CD with debinstaller to get lvm support, direct from the CD.
[22:00] <CasualWalker> anodesni, what you suggested is a better option. It takes lil more time but got it done, i guess fn is still a bug
[22:00] <Slart> abal9002: memtest will just show you a blue text screen.. I think there are counters for number of errors and such.. and it will tell you that some address is bad if it finds anything
[22:00] <SARO> BluesKaj: also wouldnt it be better if Totem installed nothing instead of crap that makes my video look like random lines?
[22:01] <anodesni> CasualWalker: I mean you can fix the shortcut with fn
[22:01] <Slart> hmw: might be.. or some crashed gnome process.. I've actually not seen a gpu crash that I know of.. not really sure what it would look like
[22:01] <anodesni> CasualWalker: you should assign the right commands to the key using some program, just google for it
[22:01] <mjrdelgado> hi, I need some help with my Ubuntu
[22:01] <sebsebseb> !ask | mjrdelgado
[22:02] <Slart> abal9002: well.. that's where I would start looking.. second place would be graphics drivers.. but I think some other people suggested that already
[22:02] <fcuk112> how do i boot lucid into safe graphics mode?  i tried holding down F8 or shift while rebooting but it doesn't show the grub menu.
[22:02] <CasualWalker> can you teach me how? I bout a new laptop just now. everything is so good except for this fn key.. can you help me to fix it plz?
[22:02] <anodesni> CasualWalker: maybe this is useful http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys
[22:02] <Slart> abal9002: there's also some stress testing apps in synaptic that lets you excercise the computer just to see if that makes it break down
[22:02] <SARO> now that i've added the mediabuntu packages what should i choose to install in the software center so that divx plays??
[22:02] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: yes- I've XP installed on the first 30GiB, then an 80(ish)GiB partition. Both have data, but first is completely full...
[22:02] <Fandekasp_> histo, I have a problem, I can't mount a disk. I've put the info there : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/215942/  Could someone look at it and help me to find a solution to mount my disk and have access to my data ? Thank you a lot in advance !
[22:03] <mjrdelgado> ok, I can'c activate the bluetooth on ubuntu 9.10 and neither 10.04
[22:03] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: the XP partition is full?
[22:03] <CasualWalker> thanks anodesni, will have a look at it and come back if i have any doubts :)
[22:03] <SARO> now that i've added the mediabuntu packages what should i choose to install in the software center so that divx plays in Totem??
[22:03] <CasualWalker> thanks for the quick and good help annodesni :)
[22:03] <Fandekasp_> sorry histo , I didn't want to write to you in particular, my apologize
[22:03] <Fandekasp_> Does someone know how can I mount my disk ?  Thank you
[22:04] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: yes.
[22:04] <VCoolio> Fandekasp_: not ext3, it's ntfs, so you'll need -t ntfs-3g  (and have ntfs-3g installed)
[22:04] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: so full that, XP won't work?
[22:04] <Nilos> ActionParsnip , how do I see which networks are available to me from command kline.I dont think the access point i set
[22:04] <anodesni> CasualWalker: I read here that those keys are controlled by the BIOS, and something about setting some options in grub
[22:04] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: have you got an external hard disk or something like that, to back up data to?  If not you should have one really
[22:04] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: since hard disks can just fail
[22:05] <Fandekasp_> VCoolio, oh ? ok
[22:05] <CasualWalker> I don't have much option in BIOS.. not atleast for fn..
[22:05] <mjrdelgado> also, on ubuntu 10.04 my wan disconnects like every 20 minutes
[22:05] <hmw> Fandekasp_: i had a similar problem once, didnt really solve it. You might get lucky with some recovery tools...
[22:05] <mjrdelgado> wlan sorry
[22:05] <hmw> !recover
[22:05] <CasualWalker> but my fn is working fine with other combinations, its not that my fn is completely dead
[22:05] <exalt> how big is the problem if /usr/share/fonts does not exist?
[22:05] <Fandekasp_> VCoolio, are you sure ? For my /dev/sdb1 , the fdisk -l say it's a linux type
[22:06] <fcuk112> how do i reset my display resolution?  all i can get is a blank screen, i can go to terminal but xrandr says can't open display?
[22:06] <VCoolio> Fandekasp_: no, i was looking wrong, thought you meant sdc1, sorry
[22:06] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: I do have another internal HDD that i use for important documents.
[22:06] <FriedrichMan> hello
[22:06] <CasualWalker> anodesni: anyways.. thanks for the guidance :)
[22:06] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: using gparted to re size XP partitions or other partitions,  will probably go rather fine indeed, but a slight chance of data loss even so I guess, altough never happended to me
[22:06] <FriedrichMan> got a bit of a prob
[22:06] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: and I have done this kind of stuff a lot
[22:06] <hmw> fcuk112: you need to use xrandr in a terminal under Gnome not on the console
[22:06] <Slart> exalt: I think gnome might behave a little weird.. the TTYs shouldn't be affected though.. tried just reinstalling the fone packages ?
[22:07] <FriedrichMan> since ubuntu's upgrade I haven't been able to boot the winxp disk...
[22:07] <FriedrichMan> has anyone have had a similar problem or knows how to solve it?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: it's Vista where you would want to let it resize itself first, so you don't get  data loss, but Gparted is fine for re sizing XP
[22:07] <Mandor> Have a RADIS that's not coming up, even with mdadm --assemble --scan
[22:07] <Bookman> I have the medibuntu repos activated but I cannot find the libdvdcss package to install to be able to enable my dvd drive
[22:07] <Mandor> Have a RAID that's not coming up, even with mdadm --assemble --scan.
[22:07] <hmw> !grub2 - check the bottom of the file | FriedrichMan
[22:07] <exalt> Slart: wich pacage? i have nog WM or DM
[22:07] <VCoolio> Fandekasp_: try -t auto or maybe it's ext4?  else you'll need to fsck or what is the check command
[22:07] <anodesni> CasualWalker: no problem
[22:07] <hmw> !grub2 | FriedrichMan  - check the bottom of the file
[22:07] <fcuk112> hmw: so what can i do?  all i get is a blank screen when i boot, i need to reset the display resolution somehow.
[22:08] <Mandor> Did a manual mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1, and it's now somewhat functional.
[22:08] <FriedrichMan> hmw_ the bottom of what dilwe¿?
[22:08] <Mandor> But can't mount it.
[22:08] <marloshouse> i just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking.  mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone.  is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset?
[22:08] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: OK. Thanks. I was thinking- defrag first, shrink the second part, then move it. then enlarge the first partition? anything else?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> Bookman, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:08] <Bookman> BluesKaj, I did, still no go
[22:08] <abal9002> Slart: thanks
[22:08] <hmw> FriedrichMan: repairing Grub2 with chroot
[22:08] <Fandekasp_> VCoolio, with -t auto, it ask again to specify the type of the filesystem
[22:08] <Mandor> kern.log has: EXT4-fs: ext4_check_descriptors: Inode bitmap for group 384 not in group (block 1706161045)! EXT4-fs: group descriptors corrupted!
[22:08] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: you can defrag first, but you probably won't get data loss by resiznig it if you don't.  however then again your XP partition is rather full. and so when it comes to resizing XP  you can only make it bigger I guess, when you have unalloacted space
[22:09] <Slart> exalt: WM DM?
[22:09] <BluesKaj> Bookman, ok try installing libdvdcss2
[22:09] <Slart> exalt: hang on.. let me see what the basic font packagse are called
[22:09] <Bookman> BluesKaj, not found
[22:09] <abal9002> how to reduce the size of a ubuntu live cd generated with remastersys?
[22:09] <FriedrichMan> hmw: where is it located?
[22:10] <hmw> FriedrichMan: quite at the bottom
[22:10] <FriedrichMan> I am not getting it... at the bottom of what?
[22:10] <Slart> !info xfonts-scalable | exalt, this is one
[22:10] <Mandor> fsck -n has a whole bunch of Group descriptor 0 checksum is invalid, going from 0 to a high number.
[22:10] <Mandor> Help?
[22:10] <BluesKaj> Bookman,you also need the medibuntu repository , which I just posted above
[22:10] <exalt> Slart: i have only tty. no x :p
[22:10] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[22:10] <Bookman> BluesKaj, enabled
[22:10] <SARO> hey how can i show what is connected to my usb ports? because ubuntu does not recognize my usb soundcard
[22:11] <KaffeeJunky123> how do I corectly add a partition to fstab, I mean how to do it the ubuntu way
[22:11] <Slart> exalt: hmm.. then I'm not sure if you need the /usr/share/fonts.. unless you want to render pdf's or use latex/tex
[22:11] <exalt> Slart: where would i need to set my font? in bashrc?
[22:11] <abal9002> anyone can point a good resource for bash scripting?
[22:11] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:12] <tomatto_> hello
[22:12] <Slart> exalt: your font? what font? you mean for your TTY?
[22:12] <exalt> Slart: yes the font for my tty
[22:12] <marloshouse> abal9002: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[22:12] <Googleman> any one can help
[22:12] <Googleman> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE
[22:12] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: Thanks for your time mate. *I'm going in*
[22:12] <Googleman> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[22:12] <VCoolio> !abs | abal9002
[22:12] <tomatto_> please, what can i do with ubuntu on 600MHz PIII, which is so slow on it?
[22:12] <Bookman> Anyone else know why my dvd player will not play dvds?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: going in?
[22:13] <Slart> exalt: oh.. no idea about that.. I don't use plain TTY's that much..
[22:13] <fcuk112> how to boot into safe mode?
[22:13] <piper69> Loshki: can you show me where i can track that bug
[22:13] <sebsebseb> fcuk112: from recovery mode
[22:13] <xTheGoat121x> I'm having an odd problem since I've installed 10.04 -- my user doesn't seem to have proper permissions. I cannot shut down my computer properly, mount certain USB devices, or hibernate, among other things
[22:13] <abal9002> thanks!
[22:13] <sebsebseb> fcuk112: well low graphics mode
[22:13] <jrib> tomatto_: what do you want to do with it?
[22:13] <marloshouse> Bookman: have you tried running the dvd player with sudo ?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> fcuk112: safe mode is a Windows thing
[22:13] <fcuk112> sebsebseb: can't get the grub menu up
[22:13] <tomatto_> jrib: somehow make it faster
[22:13] <Kentrel> xTheGoat121x, you'll need to edit your /etc/fstab file
[22:13] <marloshouse> i just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking.  mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone.  is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset?
[22:13] <jrib> tomatto_: what are you using it for I mean
[22:13] <Kentrel> !fstab | xTheGoat121x
[22:14] <hmw> tomatto_: give it at least 1 GB RAM, disable autostarts and unused services, give it a decent GPU and let Compiz give you the impression of speed
[22:14] <eddvrs> sebsebseb: going to give it a go- see how I get on.
[22:14] <sebsebseb> fcuk112: hit esc or whatever to get it up,  or  I guess edit grub config so it shows
[22:14] <sebsebseb> eddvrs: ok good luck
[22:14] <tomatto_> jrib: ubuntu 10.04
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | fcuk112
[22:14] <jrib> tomatto_: you want to use it as a desktop?
[22:14] <Bookman> marloshouse, cannot run vlc as root
[22:14] <tomatto_> hmw: it has 128MB ram at all. i cannot add any ram. i haven't it
[22:14] <tomatto_> jrib: yes, as desktop
[22:15] <xTheGoat121x> Kentrel, really? That would even effect shutting down properly?
[22:15] <fcuk112> thanks i will take a look
[22:15] <jrib> tomatto_: how much ram?
[22:15] <hmw> tomatto_: that computer is destined to be boring with Ubuntu. Use fluxbox instead of gnome, or get another distro
[22:15] <marloshouse> Bookman: i would check access to the device as a user, it seems to me there are permission issues with those devices (sometimes) and i think you add your user to a group to grant you access to them... but i'm no expert
[22:15] <Cynthia> How would I file a request to the Ubuntu developers to run OptiPNG and Scour.py on the PNG and SVG files of packages -- or at least, these files as they are on the LiveCD? Enhancement request on the bug tracker?
[22:15] <tomatto_> jrib: 128MB
[22:15] <tomatto_> hmw: what distro do you mean?
[22:15] <jrib> Cynthia: #ubuntu-bugs
[22:16] <lachouffe> hi !! i've just installed yarssr and it appears that the notification area icon is not transparent
[22:16] <lachouffe> what can i do to this ?
[22:16] <hmw> tomatto_: something super slim... not Ubuntu
[22:16] <Kentrel> xTheGoat121x, possibly
[22:16] <anodesni> tomatto_: damn small linux
[22:16] <Kentrel> its worth a shot
[22:16] <Bookman> marloshouse, I don't think that is it.  I just cannot find the libdvdcss driver....I have medibuntu repo enabled and synaptic does not find it
[22:16] <VCoolio> lachouffe: find the icon, gimp it
[22:16] <hmw> tomatto_: I'd recommend using WIndows XP on that machine, if youre not good with Linux
[22:17] <abal9002> also, can anyone point out good resources for, say, system administration (in Linux, of course)?
[22:17] <lachouffe> VCoolio, in fatc the icon is xmp so there is already transparency but it seems it's not working with new ubuntu
[22:17] <VirusTB> Aciid, u there?
[22:17] <lachouffe> cause it was working well on karmic
[22:17] <Loshki> piper69: try: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pastebinit/+bug/526849
[22:17] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  hi :D u there
[22:17] <tarzeau-ppc> i have a real sound card and an USB UBER subwoofer. how can i make the usb sound thing be default for all sound apps?
[22:17] <tomatto_> hmw: windows xp is very slow too, on. i am good with linux, i just have not experiences with slow computers
[22:18] <andruk> my fresh lucid install is not pulling an IP address, i have a realtek rtl8111 chipset, how do i get it to work?
[22:18] <hmw> tomatto_: either damn small linux or something alike, or build your own linux: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[22:18] <VCoolio> lachouffe: hmm, that's something else; I've seen the complaint before, with other icons; can't remember the fix (if any)
 when i give     iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE
[22:18] <Docteh> andruk: is that ethernet or wireless?
 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[22:18] <andruk> Docteh: that's wired
[22:19] <Googleman> its vps
[22:19] <abal9002> disconnect
[22:19] <sebsebseb> VCoolio: what do you want?
[22:19] <Googleman> openvz int
[22:19] <anodesni> tomatto_: maybe puppy linux, zenwalk, or damn small linux
[22:19] <lachouffe> VCoolio, thanks so i feel less lonely... and maybe hope for a fix
[22:19] <osalgado> hello!
[22:19] <sebsebseb> VCoolio: wrong one
[22:19] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: what do you want?
[22:19] <Docteh> andruk: when you type ifconfig eth0 does it list anything?
[22:19] <tomatto_> anodesni: i check dsl...what package system it has, do you know?
[22:20] <anodesni> tomatto_: you shouldn expect anything decent
[22:20] <Googleman> ?
[22:20] <anodesni> tomatto_: shouldn't
[22:20] <Time`s_Witness> hey . iaccidentaly removed the button to shutdown at top right corner. how can i place it back there please
[22:20] <Docteh> tomatto_: its got either apt or its own package system
[22:20] <VirusTB> tryna get Rhymote installed .. but when i do ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins is tells me  no such directory :S http://code.google.com/p/rhythmote/
[22:20] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: nice :) so I guess at the oment you have to shut down using system menu :)
[22:20] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,
[22:20] <Docteh> Time`s_Witness: right click the panel and use the add thing
[22:20] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: or terminal
[22:21] <murdock36> irc://irc.what-network.net/
[22:21] <Time`s_Witness> yea but i cant find it in that menu Docteh
[22:21] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: or use from system menu :)  or set panels back to default
[22:21] <murdock36> wut
[22:21] <sebsebseb> !panels | Time`s_Witness
[22:21] <andruk> Docteh: yes, the normal ifconfig output for an unconnected interface
[22:21] <VCoolio> Time`s_Witness: add user switch applet or what's it called exactly
[22:21] <Time`s_Witness> i don't want to reset to default i want to add the button there! O.o what is it called as in the menu? i think i have added everythign there except that button
[22:22] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: you high lighted me before, what do you want?
[22:22] <Time`s_Witness> VCoolio nah, it's not that one :S
[22:22] <VirusTB> tryna get Rhymote installed .. but when i do ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins is tells me  no such directory :S http://code.google.com/p/rhythmote/ sebsebseb
[22:22] <Docteh> andruk: start with seeing if "sudo dhclient eth0" does anything
[22:22] <FriedrichMan> is there a way to boot to windows from linux? like if I was opening a new terminal...with windows
[22:22] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: uhmm what does that program do?
[22:22] <Docteh> FriedrichMan: you want to run your windows in a virtual machine?
[22:23] <FriedrichMan> nope
[22:23] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  web interface to control RhythmBox music player
[22:23] <sebsebseb> FriedrichMan: Windows on another computer?
[22:23] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  but im having troubles movie the file :S
[22:23] <Docteh> FriedrichMan: not clear what you mean then
[22:23] <tomatto_> is possible to boot from usb flash disk, when bios don't support boot from?
[22:23] <quack> FriedrichMan: Maybe Windows Terminal Server (RDP)?
[22:23] <tomatto_> somehow?
[22:23] <IdleOne> tomatto_: no
[22:24] <breakd0wn> hi, I am trying to install 10.4 server. It goes through a good part of the install (partition, format, base) and then tells me to insert a different CD
[22:24] <hmw> tomatto_: no. only chance is a BIOS upgrade perhaps
[22:24] <Docteh> andruk: the dhclient eth0 is just to make sure its not a problem at a low level
[22:24] <Docteh> breakd0wn: i wasn't aware there was more than one cd, maybe the cd you have is bad?
[22:25] <tomatto_> hmw: when i plug in flash drive. bios going to be frozen
[22:25] <breakd0wn> Docteh: hmmm, i will try to redownload and reburn
[22:25] <Docteh> breakd0wn: try the option to verify the cd at the boot menu
[22:25] <IdleOne> breakd0wn: there is only one cd to install Ubuntu it be desktop or server.
[22:25] <hmw> !md5 | breakd0wn: check disk integrity before redownloading
[22:25] <KaffeeJunky123> is there a command to restore the default desktop settings on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:26] <IdleOne> breakd0wn: err what I meant is that it should not be asking for a second cd
[22:26] <tarzeau-ppc> DAMN
[22:26] <KaffeeJunky123> I moved my home folder to a new partition and managed to erase the content of my home folder on the way, so now I'm with a completly **** up desktop :D
[22:26] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  my SUDO and terminal skills suck :( i need to force something for the file to be coped from " /home/virustb/" to  "~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins"
[22:26] <breakd0wn> not asking for a second CD in those words, but saying to insert 20100427 iso
[22:26] <tarzeau-ppc> KaffeeJunky123: backup?
[22:26] <breakd0wn> thanks for the help, will give it a shot
[22:26] <BluesKaj> tomatto_, don't plug the flashdrive in when editing the bios , try to finf removable devices and set it up in the boot sequence if possible
[22:27] <piper69> can i get little help with http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24 , step 5 "make && make install" gives me these errors http://pastebin.com/rrLyACnw
[22:27] <jrib> KaffeeJunky123: erm, empty home will give you a default desktop
[22:27] <piper69> please :0
[22:27] <rabidweezle> Anyone know an app that transcodes mp3 to ogg with a pretty gui?
[22:27] <Docteh> jrib: what about the stuff in /etc/skel?
[22:27] <jrib> KaffeeJunky123: you can copy the stuff in /etc/skel/ if you want but I don't believe that affects anything visually
[22:27] <Slart> piper69: try first just "make".. then "sudo make install"
[22:27] <KaffeeJunky123> jrib: well, I've mounted an existing partition as /home and created a folder for my user
[22:27] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: rythombox plugins in your home?
[22:27] <Docteh> .bash_logout  .bashrc  examples.desktop  .profile
[22:27] <Docteh> .bash_logout  .bashrc  examples.desktop  .profile
[22:27] <Docteh> whoops
[22:27] <FloodBot4> Docteh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <tomatto_> BluesKaj: i plug in flash and run pc
[22:28] <Slart> piper69: "make" compiles a program.. "make install" installs it ..so you need to be root for the second step
[22:28] <KaffeeJunky123> jrib: there by I deleted all config files that ubuntu made in my home/user dir :)
[22:28] <marloshouse> i just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking.  mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone.  is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset?
[22:28] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  i exracted the plugin's zip file to my home direfctory yes
[22:28] <VirusTB> dicretory*
[22:28] <jrib> KaffeeJunky123: log out and log back in.  If you want you can copy the /etc/skel/ stuff as Docteh  points out
[22:28] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: ~/.kde*
[22:28] <Slart> piper69: and I'm not so sure if it's a good idea to try to compile stuff in /usr/src directly.. you might need to change the permissions before you can do that
[22:28] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: and then you should be able to drag it into the rythombox plugins hidden folder in there as well
[22:29] <marloshouse> tarzeau i dumped it, still nothing
[22:29] <sebsebseb> marloshouse: try #kubuntu
[22:29] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: welcome to ubuntu :)
[22:29] <VirusTB> oh.. its hidden :S no wonder i cant see it
[22:29] <KaffeeJunky123> jrib: so I should just restard the display manager?
[22:29] <VirusTB> oh.. its hidden :S no wonder i cant see it sebsebseb
[22:29] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: don't worry, i'm having these problems too, well our users actually (no sane person would use software that's so shaky with its own config files)
[22:29] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: view > show hidden files and folders
[22:29] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: you use kde yourself?
[22:30] <jrib> KaffeeJunky123: no, you do...
[22:30] <marloshouse> tarzeau i am using kde, and i ran the 'upgrade' on two other machines with no problems, i was quite pleased in fact, and was reserving this one since my wife uses it
[22:30] <marloshouse> and this one failed
[22:30] <marloshouse> all i have is a wallpaper from kde
[22:31] <marloshouse> nothing else
[22:31] <marloshouse> oh, and a mouse
[22:31] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: i hope your wife won't get upset about it
[22:31] <marloshouse> usually killing ~/.kde will reset most problems
[22:31] <tomatto_> how ubuntu makes to automatick mounting cdrom and flash drive?
[22:32] <marloshouse> there doesn't seem to be anyone in kubuntu
[22:32] <tarzeau-ppc> tomatto_: using udev i think, or gnome's automounter, it's a user process
[22:32] <marloshouse> no traffic at all
[22:32] <Docteh> tomatto_: the file manager does it
[22:32] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  thanks once again, you helped me out with an issue in 9.04 .. god bless you :P
[22:32] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: Did I? oh
[22:32] <tarzeau-ppc> gnome volume manager or something
[22:32] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: well I don't remember that now
[22:32] <SeViLLa> how can i get bluetooth to work with a windows mobile phone
[22:32] <Docteh> marloshouse: trash the .kde folder before you log in?
[22:32] <Hans_Henrik> at least when searching on NTFS drives, the gnome desktop "search for files" function search the entire drive first, then give the result. i have a very large NTFS drive witch i need to search some files for, is there any way to change it to give results in real-time?
[22:32] <xTheGoat121x> It wasn't my FSTAB
[22:32] <tomatto_> Docteh: what do you mean file manager?
[22:33] <marloshouse> Docteh: i trashed it from another user, so i'm sure it is gone before rebooting
[22:33] <VirusTB> sebsebseb,  i did :P thats why i directed message to you :P ok... time for me to play arround in ubuntu n learn more
[22:33] <tarzeau-ppc> Hans_Henrik: use find in a terminal?
[22:33] <VCoolio> tomatto_: nautilus, edit > preferences
[22:33] <Docteh> huh does the other users account work fine?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> VirusTB: ok
[22:33] <marloshouse> i wonder if its something in my X11 config file that got butchered
[22:33] <SeViLLa> how can i get bluetooth to work with a windows mobile phone
[22:34] <claptrap> So, ever since I upgraded to Lucid, I've been having some issues with Flash not working quite as well as it did back on Karmic.
[22:34] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: firefox or google chrome or chromium?
[22:34] <Docteh> claptrap: what kind of "not as well"
[22:34] <claptrap> tarzeau-ppc: All of the above.
[22:34] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: any special flash pages?
[22:34] <claptrap> Specifically Hulu and Kongregate.com
[22:34] <marloshouse> Docteh: no, nothing from either user (me or my wife)... so i killed my ~/.kde from her login and hers from mine ( since some files were locked) and i'm certain .kde was gone, and then reboted
[22:34] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: 32 or 64bit?
[22:35] <claptrap> Sixty-four.
[22:35] <sebsebseb> claptrap: what's the second site? what kind of site?
[22:35] <tarzeau-ppc> marloshouse: kderc too?
[22:35] <marloshouse> no
[22:35] <claptrap> sebsebseb: It's a Flash game site. The games themselves work perfectly, however -
[22:35] <marloshouse> lemme try that
[22:35] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: you got the 32-bit emulator flash or the one from adobe.com ?
[22:35] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: i mean do you use ubuntu flashplugin-installer?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> claptrap: Flash issues sometimes,  also sometimes things that  worked well in a previous version of Ubuntu, don't in the latest
[22:36] <claptrap> sebsebseb: The website uses an API to get points from achievements in games; to do that, it has to connect to their chat system. It won't connect.
[22:36] <claptrap> tarzeau-ppc: Yes, flashplugin-installer
[22:36] <tarzeau-ppc> Flash Gordon should fry adobe
[22:36] <sebsebseb> flashplugin-intaller installs the same version as the Adobe website I think
[22:36] <claptrap> Flash Gordon, lol.
[22:36] <tarzeau-ppc> today and tomorrow is the google i/o
[22:36] <claptrap> God, how old is that.
[22:37] <Nick_Meister> hi guys im having problem with the gnome panels when i set their size to larger with the new 10.4 theme the gradient ends abruptly spllitting thee pannel into 2 different colors
[22:37] <marloshouse> i don't see kderc
[22:37] <Nick_Meister> when i set the background to solid color instead of theme
[22:37] <tarzeau-ppc> i wish their vp8 codec will become free software and help to get rid of flash
[22:37] <Nick_Meister> the applets on the bar dont do that and i get 2 different styles
[22:37] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: very old :)
[22:37] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: yes apparnatly it will be soon
[22:37] <claptrap> At any rates, I'm not too horribly concerned with Hulu, since their desktop-player works just fine.
[22:37] <claptrap> Kongregate, however, is quite ticking me off. :E
[22:37] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: any news/statements from them?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: not that I have seen
[22:38] <exalt> Slart: it was setfont
[22:38] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: however I read some article that gave some sort of offical info, or whatever it was
[22:38] <claptrap> I tried downgrading to Flash 9, but eh, I didn't have a whole lot of success making that work properly.
[22:38] <Slart> exalt: ah..  that's was all you had to install?
[22:38] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: sounds good. oh how i hate adobe!
[22:38] <Cynthia> Could you move the Google VP8 Flash conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps? :)
[22:38] <tarzeau-ppc> Cynthia: you should. we're long done with it
[22:38] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: Flash is alright, when it works properly
[22:38] <exalt> Slart: its already installed :)
[22:38] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: and what about adobe reader?
[22:39] <Slart> exalt: great =)
[22:39] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: it's just using way too much cpu power
[22:39] <Cynthia> tarzeau-ppc: I haven't talked about it except for that ONE line.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: Adobe Reader is ok on Windows,  you can do it on a Linux distro to, but not much point, since there are good alternative PDF viewers
[22:39] <tomatto_> i can waht to internet television, but firefox told me, i need to MMSH modul, what is it and where can i found it to install?
[22:39] <ninjafusion> so if forward a port on my router and then turn ufw off i should be set to go right?
[22:39] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: cough ... good alternative pdf viewers?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !pdf | tarzeau-ppc
[22:40] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: my users whine about not being able to edit forms, and save them
[22:40] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: as for creating them you can use Open Office for example
[22:40] <xTheGoat121x> I cannot properly shutdown my computer, nor can I mount certain drives, hibernate, or suspend. It's not related to my fstab file, and it doesn't seem to be related to my user. I'm at a complete loss
[22:40] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: or scribus (with even forms)
[22:40] <claptrap> tarzeau-ppc: No thoughts on mah Flash issues? :<
[22:40] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: forms? what you mean forms?
[22:40] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: no idea really
[22:40] <tarzeau-ppc> i want to get rid of my default sound card so all software programs see my USB iSub
[22:40] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: formulars
[22:41] <daniel> hi everybody, I have a problem XChat won`t connect to UndeNet, can anybody help ? thanks
[22:41] <Nilos> wicd can seee wireless network but cannot retreive an IP address
[22:41] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: uh,   PDF's aren't spread sheets, but you could save a a spreadsheet into a PDF yeah
[22:41] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: remount the filsystem readonly, sync, remove the power plug?
[22:41] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: wait wait, it's not me who does this stuff. do you know web formulars?
[22:42] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau, well, yeah, but that seems a bit extreme to do every time I want to shut down
[22:42] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: you can make this as PDF! and adobe reader can edit and save this crap. and some users need this (not me, luckily)
[22:42] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: poweroff doesn't work, the command in a terminal, as root user?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: web formulars?  sounds like some WYSIWYG feature. or something.
[22:42] <Cynthia> Nick_Meister: Regarding your GNOME panel problem, this is a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/560637 The backgrounds of icons on panels don't follow the system theme, but the empty spaces do
[22:42] <Glacer> anyone running Gdesklet on 10.04?
[22:42] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, Give me a second and I'll try that.
[22:42] <jlebar> We've found a pretty serious memory leak in gnome-power-manager which we think has been tracked down to Ubuntu-specific code.  How can I get a Ubuntu dev to look at this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/569273
[22:42] <BluesKaj> tarzeau-ppc, you can set it up in the bios , enable it  in system peripherals
[22:42] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: anyways, it doesn't work with linux free software, nor adobe reader
[22:43] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: right well a PDF, is only meant to be seen, it's not meant to be edited
[22:43] <Slart> jlebar: if it's in the bug database that should be enough
[22:43] <tarzeau-ppc> jlebar: buy professional support, open a case? :)
[22:43] <tomatto_> how can i add ubuntu livecd booting via grub
[22:43] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: why?
[22:43] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: really don't discuss this with me.
[22:44] <jlebar> tarzeau, Well, I don't really care; I can just disable gnome-power-manager.  But I think less savvy users may be getting hammered by this.
[22:44] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: whatever it was off topic anyway
[22:44] <tarzeau-ppc> jlebar: same here. i'm not ubuntu. not so easy to find the right people
[22:44] <tarzeau-ppc> jlebar: i also got some nice bugs and fixes for them... if only i knew who cares
[22:44] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: i have grub on my flash with others utilities and i need to add ubuntu livecd to. how can i do that?
[22:45] <whiter> how can i tell if my VPN is working? rather, if ubuntu is routing my connection through the VPN?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: uhmm  Grub installed onto your computers hard disk?
[22:45] <Slart> jlebar: from what I can see the bug is already getting some attention in the bug report
[22:45] <Cynthia> tarzeau-ppc: add to the bug database, a bug with [PATCH] in the title, and 'patch' in the tags
[22:45] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: on my usb flash drive
[22:45] <Cynthia> ... if you have patches, that is; I think I misread your line
[22:46] <jlebar> Slart, Oh...now that I look at it, you're right.  Chris Coulson has a canonical address.  This is good.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: I have never put Ubuntu on a USB stick,  however I thought, it was just put Ubuntu on the USB stick,  have it bootable, and boot the computer from it
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !usb | tomatto_
[22:46] <Colloguy> I'm trying to restore an EFI partition's MBR, which I accidentally overwrote. Can someone who dual boots os x and linux, and is willing to run   dd if=/dev/disk0s1 of=result bs=512 skip=0 count=1   to grab the info off their EFI partition, whisper me? :O
[22:46] <breakd0wn> cd checked out ok, I have a feeling it has something to do with the CDROM. Tried to use a USB cdrom to start and it couldnt find any modules, so dug up an old IDE cdrom
[22:46] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, as you can probably tell, the shutdown command from the command line works... maybe my user is messed up?
[22:46] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: i have no idea. i always use poweroff
[22:47] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: well if i ever shut down computers
[22:47] <Colloguy> maybe if=/dev/sda1 on linux
[22:48] <piper69> Slart: where do you suggest to compile it
[22:48] <joe18201-1187> a
[22:48] <Nilos> wicd can see my wireless network but cannot retrieve an IP address.I have set encryption, but it still fails.What am I missing?
[22:48] <Slart> piper69: I would copy the source code to your home folder somewhere.. setup the permissions with chmod and then try compiling again
[22:48] <jorgos> hello. if i compile a kernel on another machine and then copy it will it work? will it be any different from having compiled it on the original machine?
[22:48] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, well it's not just shutting down I'm worried about. This is also effecting mounting external drives, despite having changed my permissions to be able to do so
[22:48] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: sorry i have no idea, i can't help you
[22:49] <piper69> Slart: well i tried it with root and still same result
[22:49] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: this howtos uses isolinux and syslinux, but i need to use grub for
[22:49] <Slart> piper69: I'm not sure if it's a good way or not but I keep a ~/src folder for all my hand compiled software
[22:49] <michelle__> Nilos: what type of network? and what kind of key?
[22:49] <chandler243> Hello, I am having issues configuring my printer connected to my ubuntu 10.04 via usb to be able to print to the printer from a windows computer, Can anyone help please?
[22:49] <tarzeau-ppc> Slart: pretty good, i do it likewise :)
[22:49] <xiong> I will tell a tale some may find instructional, others merely humorous.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: I don't understand why you want to boot a USB Ubuntu using Grub on your hard disk?
[22:49] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: the printer only has usb, or also network?
[22:49] <Nilos> michelle__, its a wireless network with a WEP encryption
[22:50] <Slart> piper69: mm.. I'm not sure if it is a permissions issue or not.. it might be something else as well.. but getting rid of the permissions stuff would be a good start
[22:50] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, no problem, thanks for everything up to this point. At least I can shut down properly now!
[22:50] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: really just switch the usb cable between the machines or read about samba
[22:50] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: you've got a funny nick
[22:50] <michelle__> nilos: ad-hoc or infrastructure?
[22:50] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: not on hard disk, on USB FLASH DISK
[22:50] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: that's what the persistent install does, I thought
[22:50] <xiong> I need to change my CPU scaling frequently. (I installed an overpowered chip in my laptop, which tends to overheat.) The applet demands I authenticate before performing this privileged action.
[22:50] <Mark____> hey i got a problem
[22:50] <Nilos> michelle__, infrstructure?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !ask | Mark____
[22:51] <chandler243> Tarzeau-ppc It does have network, But in this configureation  I would pefer to use usb
[22:51] <Mark____> my wired connection keeps dropping what do i do?
[22:51] <tarzeau-ppc> Mark____: replace the cable?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:51] <Mark____> its a brand new cable
[22:51] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, LoL Thanks, it comes from my goatee
[22:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yo yo yo
[22:51] <Slart> Mark____: any errors in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log?
[22:52] <wildbat> yoyoyo
[22:52] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: usb creator make usb bootable with isolinux, but i can't to use it, i need to boot ubuntu livecd by grub
[22:52] <ferret_> claptrap: It doesn't work with 64-bit flash
[22:52] <tarzeau-ppc> Mark____: or does it switch between 10/100/1000mbit, maybe make sure both sides don't do autoneg?
[22:52] <harjot> how do i make kill kaffeine at 6:00am tommorrow morning?
[22:52] <xiong> I could not figure out right away how to fix it; so I left the dialog open to copy out the details and search the net for solutions. I found one (simple enough), did it, but then couldn't use the panel applet at all. No clicks worked!
[22:52] <tarzeau-ppc> xTheGoat121x: did you forget an s now or not?
[22:52] <Slart> harjot: crontab
[22:52] <ferret_> claptrap: You'll have to use 32-bit, either with nsplugin-wrapper or 32-bit browser
[22:52] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: from a CD?
[22:52] <michelle__> nilos: have you have you set an MTU size or is it auto
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> tomatto_: you can use a floppy to boot a cd if the system cannot boot cd
[22:52] <tomatto_> sebsebseb: from USB FLASH DISK
[22:52] <harjot> crontab?
[22:52] <chandler243> I would like to use samba, as I just have it installed, But I need help configuring it, I cant get the windows computer to reconize it on the network
[22:52] <Nilos> michelle__, it is auto
[22:52] <maxxx> hi
[22:53] <harjot> Slart: you sure?
[22:53] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: really it's not so simple. if you ask me
[22:53] <tomatto_> ActionParsnip: i need to boot USB FLASH DISK with grub. it is possible? how can do it?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> chandler243: did you share some folders in nautilus??
[22:53] <sebsebseb> tomatto_: repeate the issue again, and maybe ActionParsnip or someone like that, can help
[22:53] <Slart> harjot: that's how I would do it.. there might be other ways too, of course
[22:53] <xiong> I tried several things. I right-clicked it. I tried adding it again. I added several of them. I undid the fix. Something was Very Wrong and I got ready to reboot, hoping the issue would resolve itself.
[22:53] <harjot> Slart: can you walk me through it?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> tomatto_: sure, there are floppy images to do it
[22:53] <michelle__> Nilos is your wep security set for a key or a passphrase?
[22:53] <Mark____> wait how do i connect to a wifi network? when i click on wifi under wireless networks it says disconected
[22:53] <Slart> harjot: sure
[22:53] <harjot> Slart: what about at?
[22:53] <tomatto_> ActionParsnip: why floppy image?
[22:53] <jorgos> Can I compile a kernel on a 64bit system and install it on a 32bit system???
[22:54] <xTheGoat121x> tarzeau-ppc, forget an s? No...
[22:54] <Slart> harjot: sure.. at should work too.. I've never used it myself though
[22:54] <chandler243> tarzeau-ppc: I have filesharing working ok, But in your opionion what is the eaisest way to do this?
[22:54] <tarzeau-ppc> jorgos: if you do it right, yes
[22:54] <Mark____> anyone?
[22:54] <claptrap> ferret_: That's for Kongregate?
[22:54] <Docteh> tomatto_: whats wrong with syslinux?
[22:54] <harjot> Slart: how would crontab
[22:54] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: switch the usb cable whenever you want to print from one place
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> tomatto_: as all bios' can boot floppy but not all can boot usb or cd
[22:54] <claptrap> ferret_: And how would I do that?
[22:54] <wildbat> Mark____, right click it ~
[22:54] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: or copy the files over to the machine connected to the printer
[22:55] <xiong> Now, since I use 8 virtual desktops, I go around and close windows, perhaps making a simple text note of what I had running in each, before any planned shutdown. Well into this process, I came on the original virtual desktop on which I'd left open the authentication demand. It was still open, which blocked anything else from that applet. I closed it, re-fixed the applet, and now it works fine.
[22:55] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: i use pscp/scp for this usually
[22:55] <Slart> harjot: when I think of it.. at might be the better solution.. have you tried it?
[22:55] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: or share them via http (linux) and get them with the browser on windows
[22:55] <ferret_> claptrap: I don't know how you would do that in ubuntu.
[22:55] <Glacer> Has anyone got Gdesklet to work on ubuntu 10.04? I did have it working on 10.04, then it upgraded the package of Gdesklet and it will not load now. I miss that feature to desktop for organizing and stuff.
[22:55] <harjot> Slart: im not sure how to use it
[22:55] <harjot> Slart: its confusing
[22:55] <breakd0wn> damn, happened again :( Please insert the disk labeled 'Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS amd64 in the drive /cdrom and press enter
[22:55] <tomatto_> Docteh: i have usb flash with grub with other utilities and i need to add ubuntu live into it.
[22:55] <Slart> harjot: hmm.. let me have a quick look at the man page.. just a sec
[22:55] <Mark____> wildbat: it says wireless network enabled
[22:55] <tomatto_> ActionParsnip: where i found this floppy images?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> breakd0wn: if your using hte server version you can get support in #ubuntu-server
[22:56] <Nilos> michelle__, passphrase
[22:56] <breakd0wn> thanks
[22:56] <sebsebseb> breakd0wn: np
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> tomatto_: there are guides all over the place
[22:56] <breakd0wn> join #ubuntu-server
[22:56] <chandler243> Tarzeau-ppc: How do I get that? Is that a package? Or how would I configure http access?
[22:56] <wildbat> Mark____, then it should scan the wifi network, try disenable and re enable it
[22:56] <tomatto_> ActionParsnip: where?
[22:56] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: your computers all have network/internet right?
[22:57] <Docteh> tomatto_: oh is that all, copy the contents of inside the ISO to the usb drive, and boot the kernel and initrd from grub, may need to find a guide to tell you how to specify where the compressed loop is
[22:57] <soreau> What would be the easiest way to install 2.6.34 kernel on ubuntu in anyones opinion?
[22:57] <wildbat> Mark____, or if you have wifi switch ~ toggle it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> tomatto_: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[22:57] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: if you say aptitude install thttpd (ubuntu broke lighttpd, see launchpad)
[22:57] <FloodBot4> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: you get a webserver, and you put files in /var/www/
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> soreau: its not an official ubuntu kernel so is not supported here
[22:57] <tarzeau-ppc> chandler243: and then they're available as http://your.computers.ip.address/ from the other one
[22:57] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey, i upgraded ubuntu server 8.04 to 10.04 and now i'm stuck in an initramfs prompt at boot. anything i can do from there? it's a server i don't have physical access to :/
[22:57] <Mark____> wildbat: i tried and it still says disconnected btw im using wubi is that a proble,?
[22:58] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Fair enough
[22:58] <Mark____> *problem
[22:58] <tomatto_> Docteh: yes, that i find out. but i don't know how and where
[22:58] <xiong> Whenever I make or break a wireless connection, a big fat black box pops up, which cannot be dismissed but fades away after (too long). Can this be disabled?
[22:58] <chandler243> Yes, all of them, The printer cannot access the network because it does not have a wifi card, The desktop it is connected to via usb is linked via an internal wifi card for desktops
[22:58] <tarzeau-ppc> DrUnKnMuNkY: hehe pretty bad, i had the same problem several times from karmic to 10.04
[22:58] <andruk> Docteh: no DHCP offers received (realtek wired ethernet card)
[22:58] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I built kernels on gentoo and arch but never had a reason to on ubuntu until now
[22:58] <wildbat> Mark____, no idea ~ shouldn't be thou
[22:58] <tarzeau-ppc> DrUnKnMuNkY: one of them i installed just lucid from scratch and restored the backup (this evening actually)
[22:58] <harjot> Slart: any idea?
[22:58] <killown> how i do to allow windows vncviewer connection for my desktop? because remote desktop does not work for me..
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> soreau: there are guides around but use them at your own risk
[22:59] <Docteh> andruk: is there more than one network adaptor, are you sure its connected right?
[22:59] <tarzeau-ppc> DrUnKnMuNkY: i'm so glad rsync exists, and we have backups. just had to copy the 1,4 TB data from the backup to the freshly installed machine
[22:59] <wildbat> Mark____, manually add a Wifi connection and seee if it wrks
[22:59] <Mark____> anyone know why under wireless network it says disconnected?
[22:59] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Obviously, thanks
[22:59] <Mark____> ok ill try
[22:59] <maxxx> Mark____ : how are you using IRC ? THEN
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | killown
[22:59] <Slart> harjot: hmm.. the man page wasn't that informative.. give me another minute to try it
[22:59] <michelle__> Nilos: be sure that you are usig the same index key as the access point then]
[22:59] <killown> thanks
[22:59] <Droopsta915> Hello, Im tryin to cd into my flash drive. I see it on my Desktop but I dont see it when I type ls. What am I doing wrong? thank you
[22:59] <Mark____> maxxx: on my mac
[22:59] <tarzeau-ppc> Droopsta915: ls /media/ ?
[22:59] <DrUnKnMuNkY> tarzeau-ppc: it'd be nice to avoid that if possible but it's starting to look like there's no other way. you don't know of any solutions?
[22:59] <Mark____> wildbat: now it says device not ready
[22:59] <tarzeau-ppc> Droopsta915: it's not in your home or ~/Desktop ..
[22:59] <McKayCR> I can't get server 10.04 to install in virtualPC
[23:00] <maxxx> Mark____ : Through VM ?
[23:00] <JRDN> I'm trying to install PDO ODBC.. Any writeups on this?  What's the easiest way?
[23:00] <Mark____> no im have to different pcs
[23:00] <tarzeau-ppc> DrUnKnMuNkY: maybe they exist. i just don't know of any other. can you select another kernel to start?
[23:00] <Docteh> JRDN: what is PDO?
[23:00] <maxxx> Mark____ : iwconfig
[23:00] <maruen> Hi all , can anyone help me with crontab?
[23:00] <maruen> I cant figure out why it's not executing the jobs
[23:00] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: what's the issue?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> soreau: http://www.ramoonus.nl/2010/05/19/linux-kernel-2-6-34-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-linux-10-04/
[23:00] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: can you post the line?
[23:01] <Mark____> maxxx: ok now what?
[23:01] <Droopsta915> tarzeau-ppc: thanks I see it, lol on the newbs.
[23:01] <Docteh> maruen: /etc/crontab or the user specific ones?
[23:01] <maxxx> Mark____ :  does it show wlan0
[23:01] <Mark____> yep
[23:01] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I was kinda looking for something more along the lines of a deb package
[23:01] <Mark____> maxxx: btw im dualbooted with wubi
[23:02] <Mark____> is that a poblem?
[23:02] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I already know I can build it, that's my fallback plan ;)
[23:02] <maruen> I edit with crontab -e
[23:02] <m3asmi> can you help me to connect with a room of SQL IRS
[23:02] <Slart> harjot: ok.. here's an idea.. write this    "at 06:00" or whatever time you want to command to run
[23:02] <maruen> and I configured it with 08 12 * * * lajes /home/lajes/bin/mysql_backup.sh
[23:02] <Sonsee> hi all, one question about konqueror. I set "custom style" in appearence and set the colors I like. Now I don`t have any logos and images on some websites? by default style it works good. any idea?
[23:02] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: that's 12:08 every day
[23:02] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: it should start lajes, which it can't find
[23:02] <maruen> yeap
[23:02] <maxxx> Mark____ :  It dosn't matter
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> soreau: those ARE debs....
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Sonsee: try #kubuntu
[23:02] <Glacer> Found a bug in Gdesklet I got it working now if anyone has a problem with it in 10.04, just downgrade a version and it will fine.
[23:02] <Sonsee> i have, for example, on youtube NO logo "Youtube" that is red-white colored
[23:02] <maruen> lajes it's the user
[23:02] <maruen> that executes
[23:02] <maruen> right?
[23:02] <mjrdelgado> hi, i can't start the bluethoot
[23:03] <Slart> harjot: then press enter.. you should get a new line that starts with at>.. now you write the command you want to execute.. press enter and then press CTRL+D when you're finished
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[23:03] <DrUnKnMuNkY> tarzeau-ppc: no, all i have is some awful web-based console to access the system if it doesn't boot properly. i can't even tell if it's making it as far as grub or not. all i see is the initramfs busybox prompt
[23:03] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: this is root crontab right?
[23:03] <Mark____> maxxx: ok it says wlan0 hugh
[23:03] <Slart> harjot: as far as I can tell that should work
[23:03] <Mark____> *though
[23:03] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, no, with lajes user
[23:03] <tarzeau-ppc> DrUnKnMuNkY: have fun installing lucid from scratch :)
[23:03] <harjot> Slart: are you sure?
[23:03] <soreau> ActionParsnip: yea, I misread it. Thanks!
[23:03] <harjot> Slart: i will try
[23:03] <maxxx> Mark____ :  See my private message
[23:03] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: so you are lajes user, and you say crontab -e ?
[23:03] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, yeap
[23:03] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: you don't have to mention the lajes user, only the command see man 5 crontab
[23:04] <maruen> any problem int that?
[23:04] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: yes, it's the wrong format
[23:04] <Slart> harjot: nope.. I'm not sure.. I'm still experimenting with it myself
[23:04] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: after doy comes the command
[23:04] <harjot> Slart: looks like it
[23:04] <noerosales> hello
[23:04] <tarzeau-ppc> dow, not doy
[23:04] <Docteh> maruen: you dont specify a user when you do crontab -e, specify a user in /etc/crontab
[23:04] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, but I tested without the putting lajes
[23:04] <tarzeau-ppc> Docteh: actually if he runs crontab -e AS that user, the user is already specified
[23:04] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: and you waited until 12:08 ?
[23:05] <harjot> Slart: yup it works
[23:05] <harjot> Slart: thanks
[23:05] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, yeap, and it didn't work
[23:05] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: well the command you have can still fail, i don't know your command
[23:05] <noerosales> what do think about ubuntu
[23:05] <Slart> harjot: you're welcome
[23:05] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: and why not? you usually get mails
[23:05] <alonea> have a question. using the UBR and I have an issue where the bottom portion of popup windows get cut off so I can't click ok, cancel, etc. I try to move the window up, but it wont let me move it up past the top bar.
[23:05] <mjrdelgado> I'm on a toshiba and can't use the bluethoot
[23:05] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, I didn't got emails
[23:05] <mjrdelgado> bluetooth
[23:05] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: your mysql backup sh script is executable?
[23:05] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: did you type "mail" as that lajes user?
[23:06] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: you just want to backup some mysql dbs?
[23:06] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, yes, it's executable
[23:06] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, yes
[23:06] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: i wrote "ibackup" some years ago... why not just use that?
[23:06] <GeekSquid> alonea: hold Alt and  Click to move window freely
[23:06] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, what is ibackup?
[23:06] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: do you stop the db and copy the db, or dump the data?
[23:06] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: some shell script backup tool
[23:07] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, just dump the data
[23:07] <alonea> GeekSquid: thank you so much! its been bugging me since I got this thing a couple months ago
[23:07] <GeekSquid> alonea: tricks o'me trade
[23:07] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: http://gnu.ethz.ch/linuks.mine.nu/ibackup/
[23:07] <piper69> how can i remove a pkg
[23:07] <iceroot> maruen: use mysqldump for a db-backup, dont copy the files
[23:07] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: ok it sucks, but hey, it works :)
[23:07] <mjrdelgado> I'm on a toshiba and can't use the bluetooth
[23:07] <tarzeau-ppc> piper69: aptitude remove pkg
[23:08] <maruen> iceroot, I use mysqldump
[23:08] <piper69> tarzeau-ppc: i need the one with -purge
[23:08] <iceroot> maruen: ok
[23:08] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[23:08] <claptrap> ferret_: Thank you thank you thank you thank you! You got me pointed in the right direction and I got it fixed. :D Thank you!
[23:08] <andruk> Docteh: yes, I've swapped out cables, and the router gives out IPs to other computers.
[23:08] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, I need to find why the job isn't being executed
[23:08] <tarzeau-ppc> piper69: dpkg --purge (or -P) --force-all pkg
[23:08] <compengi> lucid doesn't have /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore? where can i set kernel parameters?
[23:08] <Tetracomm> How do I add a print queue in Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:08] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: cron usually sends mails
[23:08] <tarzeau-ppc> Tetracomm: with cups?
[23:09] <iceroot> !grub2 | compengi
[23:09] <Beyecixramd> is there a way to get something like streammygame (it means, stream video and audio from a pc, and keystrokes & mouse from the client, at fullscreen) but free?
[23:09] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: it's called webcam?
[23:09] <piper69> tarzeau-ppc: sorry, apt-get pkg --purge remove
[23:09] <mjrdelgado> I'm on a toshiba and can't use the bluetooth
[23:10] <Tetracomm> tarzeau-ppc: Yes.
[23:10] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: no, sorry, what i mean is stream the current desktop & audio being played on the server to a client
[23:10] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: and also, stream keystrokes and mouse from the client to the server
[23:10] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: like... playing a high definition game in a nettop and rendering it in a powerful desktop
[23:10] <maruen> tarzeau-ppc, which email it sends?
[23:11] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: forget it
[23:11] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: huh?
[23:11] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: you can't play high resolution or 3d games remotely
[23:11] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: to the local user
[23:11] <tarzeau-ppc> maruen: that set the job up. you type "mail" in the command line and can read it
[23:11] <Beyecixramd> yes with streammygame, i was looking for something like that, but free, tarzeau-ppc
[23:11] <Sir_Konrad> so when I hook up my TV to my Ubuntu Home Theater system, will Ubuntu pick up the TV automatically when I put the TV in PC Mode?
[23:12] <claptrap> Beyecixramd: Only decent suggestion I see.
[23:12] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: and you don't want to play it remotely, just display it remotely?
[23:12] <claptrap> Beyecixramd: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=48500
[23:12] <tarzeau-ppc> i'd still suggest the webcam...
[23:12] <claptrap> Beyecixramd: Sounds complicated, but I don't think you're going to find too much even paid content that could do what you're looking for, much less free.
[23:12] <mjrdelgado> I'm on a toshiba and can't use the bluetooth
[23:13] <claptrap> Beyecixramd: Especially in a Linux channel; games hate Linux. :]
[23:13] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: play it remotely : see the video and audio output and send user input back to the server
[23:13] <tarzeau-ppc> mjrdelgado: i've got an USB iSub Subwoofer harman/kardon and can't use it
[23:13] <Beyecixramd> claptrap: that's why i asked this :) render it in Windows, play it on Linux
[23:13] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: forget it. that works for nethack, but not much other games
[23:13] <claptrap> Beyecixramd: Ah haha.
[23:13] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: people have funny ideas
[23:13] <musturd> anyone here good at awk? I need some help
[23:13] <harjot> how come i cant use other sound devices when zynaddubfx is open?
[23:13] <tarzeau-ppc> musturd: yep! my speciality
[23:13] <musturd> cool so:
[23:14] <claptrap> tarzeau-ppc: Funny ideas sometimes make great inventions. Example: just about any invention ever.
[23:14] <Slart> Beyecixramd: it sounds like a sweet setup.. I haven't seen anything like it though.. let us know if you find anything
[23:14] <Beyecixramd> Slart: someone talked about combining programs (vlc, synergy, etc) and vlc, i might code something VERY basic in Python for this :)
[23:15] <Slart> Beyecixramd: personally I think it will be a challenge to just get low latency full screen hi-def video transfer goind.. I mean.. if that was easy we could use that instead of vnc or freenx
[23:15] <mjrdelgado> tarzeau-ppc: I mean, is there any way to turn on the bluetooth on a toshiba, or to fix it? I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 on a toshiba
[23:15] <tarzeau-ppc> mjrdelgado: i don't know
[23:15] <claptrap> "I want to use my PC, but all these cords are ticking me off. Anyone know of a way to get rid of these cords." "What are you, stupid? How is the keyboard going to be connected to the PC without a cord. Idiot..."
[23:15] <tarzeau-ppc> musturd: i want awk puzzles. where is your problem?
[23:15] <Beyecixramd> Slart: over a 100 mbps LAN, the onyl thing you need is a pretty decent video compressor, or sacrifice some quality for speed
[23:15] <claptrap> Wow, I've apparently forgotten what a question mark is.
[23:15] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: :)
[23:16] <Slart> Beyecixramd: well.. it sounds like it could work.. if it wasn't for the latency+video transfer thingy
[23:16] <tarzeau-ppc> !backups
[23:16] <musturd> tarzeau-ppc: I want to print the word after the word that gets caught by my pattern. Like echo "I like to walk all day" | awk /walk/ {print <the word after walk>} . Is there a simple way to do this?
[23:16] <Beyecixramd> Slart: keystroke prediction :) haha
[23:16] <tarzeau-ppc> claptrap: check the /msg dpkg backups (#debian)
[23:16] <Beyecixramd> Slart: naah, that won't work
[23:16] <LetsGo67> How do I install HP LaserJet CP1215 in Ubuntu 10.04 please?
[23:16] <tarzeau-ppc> musturd: definitely
[23:17] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: go to the HP website and search for the Linux drivers, double click and follow the onscreen instructions :)
[23:17] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: or install the hplip package from synaptic :)
[23:17] <musturd> tarzeau-ppc: I can't find anything in documentations on how to do this
[23:17] <Slart> musturd: does it have to be in awk?
[23:17] <tarzeau-ppc> Slart: sed?
[23:17] <musturd> Slart: I could use something else
[23:18] <Slart> tarzeau-ppc: or grep.. I just don't like awk.. or rather.. awk doesn't like me =)
[23:18] <LetsGo67> Beyecixramd: hplip doesn't help.  :(
[23:18] <tarzeau-ppc> Slart: i love awk!
[23:18] <Sir_Konrad> so when I hook up my TV to my Ubuntu Home Theater system, will Ubuntu pick up the TV automatically when I put the TV in PC Mode?
[23:18] <jrr> can I encrypt the home dir of just one user?
[23:18] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: why exactly? is your USB cable in working order and all that?
[23:19] <mjrdelgado> I think Ubuntu 10.4 has a bug. It disconnects the wlan all teh time
[23:19] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: if hplip doesn't work, try rebooting both pc and printer, try replugging in the USB cable, otherwise, you will probably never get it to work
[23:19] <musturd> I need to do more parsing though eventually, this is just the first step --> which is why awk seems good
[23:19] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: a workaround would be to install VirtualBox with the appropiate drivers
[23:19] <LetsGo67> Beyecixramd: I got the HP popup, then it froze.  How do I get it back?
[23:19] <meglio> Hi guys. Can anyone help me with ubuntu server installation in expert mode? I have installed it but it does not boot at all...
[23:19] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: what froze? what popup?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> meglio: try #ubuntu-server
[23:20] <Riviera> musturd: then consider asking the real question. There are btw ##sed and #awk
[23:20] <meglio> thanks, I'll try!
[23:20] <Sir_Konrad> Help please?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> meglio: np
[23:20] <sebsebseb> !ask | Sir_Konrad
[23:20] <jwerth> anyone know, on laptops, how to swap the multi-tap gestures? I'm used to double-tap being middle-click and triple-tap being right click, but Ubuntu has it the other way around...
[23:20] <Sir_Konrad> sebsebseb: I've already asked twice!
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Sir_Konrad: nevermind
[23:20] <jwerth> I figure there is a config file that needs editing, but I haven't found it
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Sir_Konrad: yeah just saw you had already typed something here
[23:21] <Sir_Konrad> sebsebseb: ok. Do you know the answer?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: you have already been here a while, so your not getting a yo or hello from me this time :D
[23:21] <LetsGo67> Beyecixramd: popup to install HP drivers.
[23:21] <musturd> Riviera: Well, I want to try to figure out most of the text parsing myself, it's this one problem I'm having trouble with. I'll try #awk though
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> i came back ;)
[23:21] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ok just saw the re join, but even so
[23:22] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: hmmmm... have you already started up hplip?
[23:22] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip: do you know the answer to my question?
[23:22] <Beyecixramd> LetsGo67: launch it from the apps menu
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: what is the question?
[23:22] <compengi> iceroot, this didn't help much, i've read that before but i'm still confused between the variables in /etc/default/grub; i think either GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or maybe something else?
[23:22] <ChrisWoollard> So when is the WebM / VP8 coodec going to make it into Ubuntu?
[23:22] <tarzeau-ppc> ChrisWoollard: is it out yet?
[23:22] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip: so when I hook up my TV to my Ubuntu Home Theater system, will Ubuntu pick up the TV automatically when I put the TV in PC Mode?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: what cale connects te 2?
[23:22] <ChrisWoollard> Yes.
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Sir_Konrad: no, but I guess its a try and find out
[23:22] <tarzeau-ppc> ChrisWoollard: url?
[23:23] <ChrisWoollard> one moment
[23:23] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip: what?
[23:23] <afancy> hi, i use apt-get to install package, which directory the package is saved? thanks
[23:23] <Slart> musturd: here's some sed for you =)     echo "I like to walk all day" | sed -r 's/.*walk ([A-Za-z]+) .*/\1/'
[23:23] <GeekSquid> ChrisWoollard: They just announced WebM, the toolkit is avaliable, I am sure somebody will compile it soon
[23:23] <afancy> hi,
[23:23] <Slart> musturd: it can probably be improved in all kinds of ways.. but it works
[23:23] <tarzeau-ppc> YAY!
[23:23] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip: what cable connects the two?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Sir_Konrad: I think Ubuntu can probably detect the TV insted of a monitor, as long as things are set up ok
[23:23] <ChrisWoollard> I know it is already built into a test version of opera / firefox
[23:23] <tarzeau-ppc> adobe is sooooooo pissed off. and i'm sooooooo happy
[23:23] <tarzeau-ppc> ChrisWoollard: that's so great!
[23:23] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: lol@apple
[23:23] <afancy> could anyboddy know where is the downloaded packages saved??
[23:23] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip and sebsebseb: It's using VGA
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: how do you connect the tv to the pc, what cable is used. I thought that was plain
[23:24] <musturd> Slart: thanks a lot! I'll keep the awk question pending in #awk just in case, though
[23:24] <GeekSquid> afancy: /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:24] <Sir_Konrad> It's a VGA cable.
[23:24] <jwerth> Sir_Konrad: it should, yes. I've done it a bunch of times for projectors with presentations without trouble. If it doesn't switch over on its own, you can try going to Administration-->Preferences-->Monitors and it will give you the option
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: then it will just be seen as a monitor after a reboot
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: Adobe is better than Microsoft
[23:24] <LetsGo67> Beyecixramd: Getting there.
[23:24] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: nooooo
[23:24] <sebsebseb> techhelper1: yes
[23:24] <Slart> musturd: I think awk might be a better tool in the long run.. especially if you'll be doing a lot of stuff like this..
[23:24] <sebsebseb> techhelper1: uh not you
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: yes
[23:24] <Sir_Konrad> ActionParsnip and jwerth: Ok, thanks!
[23:24] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: both suck!
[23:25] <tarzeau-ppc> equally
[23:25] <ChrisWoollard> http://www.webmproject.org/tools/vp8-sdk/index.html
[23:25] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: well yeah both suck really, but also Apple
[23:25] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: i want the source for Flash. Only then, Adobe will be better than M$ :)
[23:25] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: nooooooo well apple yes, but not NeXT
[23:25] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: i hate jobs for breaking nextstep/openstep so much
[23:25] <ChrisWoollard> Also adobe are putting it in flash
[23:25] <ChrisWoollard> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/19/adobe_html5_pack/
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: +1 dude
[23:25] <tarzeau-ppc> he should've just kicked out all the old mac os junk
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: I want proggrammers from all over the world to have access to Windows games source code,  only then will they be better than current open source games maybe :D
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: and ipod/iphone junk too dud
[23:26] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: and sony playstation 1, 2 games!
[23:26] <xnox> i just want directx & windows 7 source code
[23:26] <tarzeau-ppc> ActionParsnip: i don't care. but NeXTSTEP was one fine system
[23:26]  * azbr00 wonders if he accidentally went into the offtopic room
[23:26] <tarzeau-ppc> ActionParsnip: did you work with the lighthouse applications?
[23:27] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: ALL HAIL TO NEXUIZ, and openarena, and teeworld, and Penumbra, and alienarena, and secret maryo chronicles, and SuperTux, and so on and so on :D
[23:27] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: sure and that,  but yet there's this idea that Linux gaming sucks,  even though really it's the propritary games that suck since they are closed source.   and azbr00 has a point, this is off topic
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: not at all
[23:27] <courtni> can anyone tell me why my computer mighrt have started running soooo slow recently?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: indeed :)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: some proprietary games have linux installers ;)
[23:27] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: sudo apt-get install *that-game-which-rocks*
[23:27] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: sauerbraten is nice, there's a few goodies. but really most suck because of horrible graphics and sound sometimes also gameplay
[23:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well yeah those are alright, but  not that many of those sadly :(
[23:27] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: there's not one single great bomberman for linux
[23:27] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: world of goo, quake 3, etc
[23:28] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: dos/amiga, demoscene THEY had great games/graphics/sound
[23:28] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: let's rely on MAME then :)
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: doom3, return to castle wolfenstein
[23:28] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: also great code, but that wasn't released as free software
[23:28] <tarzeau-ppc> Beyecixramd: won't work
[23:28] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: aah, true
[23:28] <bodom> start mysql hangs. Can anybody please help me?
[23:28]  * BluesKaj wishes there was a#linux-games chat
[23:28] <bp0> how can i make the middle button scroll with mouse movement like windows?
[23:28] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: your favourite games?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: penumbra is also a great game but costs and is VERY worth it
[23:28] <tarzeau-ppc> mine are: world of goo, bubnbros, jumpnbump, nethack, sauerbraten, lemmings++
[23:29] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: not much of a gamer, so I tend to quite like most of the games from the Ubuntu repo's well stuff like  kapman and Tetris and yeah
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: you can make it, freenode supports channel spawning
[23:29] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: ooh didn't saw the news? Penumbra is now FLOSS, seriously :)
[23:29] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: try bubnbros hex-a-hop jumpnbump :)
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: halflife2, frets on fire, openttd :)
[23:29] <K-19> bp0 : what man?
[23:29] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: aaah i forgot the great Sauerbraten
[23:29] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: the  games similar to Worms are good as well, but Worms itself :) except being propritary and no native Linux version.
[23:29] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: and also Warsow :)
[23:30] <tarzeau-ppc> brutalchess!!!!
[23:30] <Beyecixramd> tarzeau-ppc: epically brutal
[23:30] <tarzeau-ppc> just because they never finished the "3d models"
[23:30] <bp0> K-19, in windows firefox, and most apps, the middle button enters a mode where moving the mouse scrolls the windows in any direction
[23:31] <bp0> how can i set that up in linux?
[23:31] <tarzeau-ppc> fine piece anyways, although it doesn't support network play, nor the chess openings known in gnu chess. yeah fics support is missing badly
[23:31] <Slart> 00:26 < Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip: aah, true
[23:31] <Slart> 00:26 < bodom> start mysql hangs. Can anybody please help me?
[23:31] <Slart> 00:26  * BluesKaj wishes there was a#linux-games chat
[23:31] <Slart> 00:26 < bp0> how can i make the middle button scroll with mouse movement like windows?
[23:31] <FloodBot4> Slart: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <Slart> 00:26 < tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: your favourite games?
[23:31] <Slart> 00:27 < ActionParsnip> Beyecixramd: penumbra is also a great game but costs and is VERY worth it
[23:31] <Beyecixramd> bye bye Slart
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Slart: why you copying stuff in?
[23:31] <^_Just|n_^> WoW. I have never seen a channel with this many users in my life. Holy crap!!!
[23:31] <^_Just|n_^> I feel bad for the bot.
[23:31] <tarzeau-ppc> sebsebseb: slipped with the paste mouse button?
[23:31] <K-19> bp0 : Here also you can do the same things ; nothing different in scrolling activity.
[23:32] <tarzeau-ppc> ^_Just|n_^: i have never seen such a horrible nickname like yours
[23:32] <sebsebseb> ^_Just|n_^: luckly not everyone that comes in here chats all at the same time or nearly all at same time, in fact most people that come in here, I never even see chat in here
[23:32] <Beyecixramd> ^_Just|n_^: World of Warcraft? not supported here, go to #wine (just kidding ;) )
[23:32] <DonScott> in case anyone missed the Google IO ....VP8 is open and royalty free.
[23:32] <tarzeau-ppc> DonScott: is it in your ppa yet?
[23:32] <ARandomNub> Hey =D! Am I going to encounter any problems using Wubi w/ RAID0?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: brutalchess looks amazing, wow
[23:32] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: i tried wubi once. SUCKED big time
[23:32] <bp0> K-19, yes, in linux the middle button means paste url and go in firefox
[23:32] <sebsebseb> tarzeau-ppc: yeah ^_Just|n_^  's name is a bit nasty for auto complete
[23:32] <tarzeau-ppc> ActionParsnip: using mm3d it's easy to edit the model files
[23:32] <bp0> i would rather have the ability to scroll
[23:32] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: yup
[23:33] <^_Just|n_^> loll
[23:33] <tarzeau-ppc> ActionParsnip: i've once tried higher resolution/more detailed ones, but it got pretty slow, but that was a few years back
[23:33] <^_Just|n_^> Imagina identifying everytime
[23:33] <ARandomNub> tarzeau-ppc: I have a spare 500 GB Drive which isn't a RAID Member, would I still get dualboot if I made the partition in Wubi for Ubuntu, even if it's on a spare HDD?
[23:33] <^_Just|n_^> loll
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: yup @ what?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau-ppc: very impressed
[23:33] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: the autocompletion name
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: ok
[23:33] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: just make it real linux partitions? preferably with xfs?
[23:33] <Roasted> How is it possible I can have ZERO issues connecting to several WPA + WPA2 secured wireless networks, but one of the 8 buildings at work I am unable to connect to? I tried NM and WICD. The PW and credentials are correct. Basic WPA network. Yet I can't connect. I don't understand it.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: on the other hand a name like that is hard to mess up, when it comes to auto complete, and then get someone else by mistake instead
[23:34] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: mine is hard to mess up too :D
[23:34] <K-19> bp0 : Mouse (Hardware) !!!
[23:34] <Beyecixramd> type in beyec and you won't find anyone like me
[23:34] <ARandomNub> tarzeau-ppc: It's got a ton of irreplaceable backed up work. I've been using Wubi for a while - I just want to know if I'll get the dualboot option if it's on the spare drive.
[23:34] <bp0> K-19? what? it is a generic scrollwheel mouse
[23:34] <jwerth> anyone know, on laptops, how to swap the multi-tap gestures? I'm used to double-tap being middle-click and triple-tap being right click, but Ubuntu has it the other way around. I haven't found the right config file..
[23:34] <bp0> nothing special
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: normally I do the first letter and hit tab, right now yours is the one it auto completes
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: however that just changed
[23:35] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: ???!! one letter? damn crazy :P
[23:35] <Kentrel> I can't get amarok to work with the Play media key on my keyboard. It detects the Forward and Back with no problem
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: yeah or two letters, depends
[23:35] <BluesKaj> Roasted, I have to state the obvious , but maybe the admins changed the wpa pw
[23:35] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: i'd setup a 2nd real linux box, copy it all over with rsync -av here/ over:/there/
[23:35] <IdleOne> !ot
[23:35] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: then get rid of wubi
[23:35] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: i type in the first 3 letters, or 4
[23:36] <Roasted> BluesKaj, nope. XP works fine with putting the PW in. Yet my laptop does not.
[23:36] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: ...aand... offtopic
[23:36] <Beyecixramd> :)
[23:36] <ARandomNub> tarzeau-ppc: So you wouldn't advise it?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Beyecixramd: maybe three  or four sometimes, anyway we are off topic now
[23:36] <Beyecixramd> sebsebseb: exactly
[23:36] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: no i wouldn't because to mount wubi partitions is painful
[23:36] <Mark____> hey anybody know to fix a wireless connection  network problem?
[23:36] <Roasted> BluesKaj, I work in IT. I work on the wireless @ this building. Im not the network admin but that kind of info Im required to know. The credentials were changed, yet my laptop backfires. Its frsutrating because WICD says its a bad PW, yet Im typing it in the same as I do with XP and XP works.
[23:36] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: actually, not that i tried a lot, but i failed trying once or twice
[23:36] <K-19> bp0 : System-Preferences-mouse
[23:36] <tarzeau-ppc> ARandomNub: but maybe it's just because i got many computers around anyways
[23:37] <ARandomNub> tarzeau-ppc: Ha, well, Wubi's always worked nicely for me, on one HDD, I dunno if it'll work so-well on my spare HDD :)
[23:37] <ARandomNub> tarzeau-ppc: I guess it's trial and error. =D
[23:37] <tarzeau-ppc> it's slow
[23:37] <Mark____> arandomnub: does your wifi work on wubi?
[23:37] <BluesKaj> Roasted, I hate to say this about wicd , but the latest versions since jaunty seem to be faulty
[23:37] <tarzeau-ppc> i didn't first figure it's not writing real filesystems
[23:38] <Roasted> BluesKaj, that may be true - but what's network manager's excuse?
[23:38] <tarzeau-ppc> and that's why i accidently got one wubi install, i hated it!
[23:38] <bp0> K-19, ... ok what option?
[23:39] <BluesKaj> Roasted, cuz it's NM , the only stable version I've encountered is the latest one in lucid
[23:39] <SlayerQuad93> hello people of usa!!!!!
[23:39] <icb410> Hey! can anyone help me troubleshoot an rsync server?
[23:39] <tarzeau-ppc> icb410: more details
[23:39] <LetsGo67> Ciao!
[23:39] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: This channel is global, so people from lots of counteries in here
[23:39] <eddvrs> SlayerQuad93: what about the rest of us?
[23:40] <SlayerQuad93> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY WIRELESS IN UBUNTU?
[23:40] <Roasted> BluesKaj, Im using lucid.
[23:40] <tarzeau-ppc> eddvrs: he doesn't care. people of usa are everywhere
[23:40] <Roasted> BluesKaj, whats NM's in lucids excuse?
[23:40] <tarzeau-ppc> eddvrs: they take over islands because they like the place for military bases
[23:40] <icb410> The rsync server is on a mac, and I'm trying to connect to it using my linux box and a NAS.  I can connect to it fine on the mac, but weirdness starts from my linux box.
[23:40] <tarzeau-ppc> SlayerQuad93: no
[23:40] <Mark____> Everyone: so i got ubuntu wubi and i cant get wifi to work...it just says device not ready...please help
[23:40] <Roasted> BluesKaj, works on several different networks. at home, at 7 of the 8 buildings at work, etc. The hardware. Works. Thet software. Works. I dont get whats wrong with this last building.
[23:40] <nicklas_> hello, when it comes to kubuntu, there is a dvd iso you can download, what is the difference from the regular cd iso?
[23:40] <tarzeau-ppc> icb410: like with filenames? or with what?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: What if the best person currently here that can hep with your issue, isn't from USA? :D
[23:41] <tarzeau-ppc> nicklas_: #kubuntu
[23:41] <bp0> K-19?
[23:41] <K-19> bp0 : usually peripheral devices are auto configured..there not much can be done about it.
[23:41] <nicklas_> tarzeau-ppc , :-P
[23:41] <SlayerQuad93> IM JUST KIDDING AROUND
[23:41] <SlayerQuad93> GOSH
[23:41] <SlayerQuad93> LOL
[23:41] <FloodBot4> SlayerQuad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <IdleOne> nicklas_: the dvd has more packages on it
[23:41] <icb410> I can get a file list using rsync this way: #rsync name@host:     but it just time's out when I do it this way #rsync name@host::module
[23:41] <BluesKaj> Roasted, , maybe you just hit on the prob,maybe it isn't your prob but the IT setup in that building
[23:41] <bp0> the mouse is working fine... I just want the middle-button behaviour from windows
[23:41] <bp0> for scrolling in any direction
[23:41] <bp0> how do i set that?
[23:41] <nicklas_> IdleOne , like what?
[23:41] <Roasted> BluesKaj, I am the one who set that building up with wireless.
[23:42] <Mark____> please please help
[23:42] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: I am not from USA, and this might be useful
[23:42] <IdleOne> nicklas_: not sure to be honest
[23:42] <sebsebseb> !wireless | SlayerQuad93
[23:42] <blathat> How can I edit fstab?  I can't open the document with root privileges, what do I do?
[23:42] <FriedrichMan> hey
[23:42] <Roasted> blathat, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[23:42] <blathat> It's all 'read only this' and 'permission denied' that
[23:42] <blathat> i swear i did..
[23:42] <K-19> bp0 : If i were you; could have gone hunting for a new mouse.
[23:43] <SlayerQuad93> I HAVE A DELL INSPIRON 1525 AND I HAD INSTALLED THE DRIVER IN UBUNTU BUT NOW I CANT SEARCH AY NETWORKS
[23:43] <Cynthia> rather, gksudo gedit
[23:43] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: Drop the caps please
[23:43] <blathat> (gedit:4868): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[23:43] <SlayerQuad93> ok
[23:43] <Cynthia> [me @ Roasted, blathat]
[23:43] <sebsebseb> !caps | SlayerQuad93
[23:43] <SlayerQuad93> im not shouting
[23:44] <Roasted> SlayerQuad93, caps are shouting, technically
[23:44] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: on IRC using caps like that is seen as shouting
[23:44] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: caps on irc == shouting
[23:44] <SlayerQuad93> oh, sorry
[23:44] <blathat> I still get gtk warning cannot display from that cynthia
[23:44] <SlayerQuad93> im a newbie
[23:44] <tarzeau-ppc> SlayerQuad93: try /nick SLAYERQUAD93 *hint*
[23:44] <SlayerQuad93> huh?
[23:45] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: tarzeau-ppc was trying to be funny
[23:45] <SlayerQuad93> :( oh
[23:45] <bp0> K-19, the mouse is fine... I don't need a new mouse... I want the behaviour from windows for using the middle button to enter a scroll-by-moving-the-mouse mode...
[23:45] <tarzeau-ppc> IdleOne: i find it funny
[23:45] <BluesKaj> Roasted, well, then you should be asking ppl who are in your wireless league ...doubt you'll find your answer here, you could get lucky tho :)
[23:46] <blathat> cannot open display you say...
[23:46] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: wireless can be a bit ticky to configure in Ubuntu,  espesaily when newbie.  Also sometimes wireless that didn't just work in Ubuntu does in another distro, but there are things you can try in Ubuntu,  before thinking more about trying one of those.
[23:47] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: Are you sure the driver installed ok, and is the correct driver?
[23:47] <SlayerQuad93> yes.
[23:48] <bobbytek2> Anyone have any suggestions for a good window manager?
[23:48] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: The driver is ok.
[23:48] <myrl> what is the most neutral and safe file extension that can't be executed in a any way?
[23:48] <FriedrichMan> has anyone had any problems trying to boot on winXP after ubuntu's 10.4 upgrade?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: I don't tend to try and help with wireless issues.  right so well  might need to put in some details for the wireless.  Also if you got issues with a native driver you can try a Windows driver with Ndiswrapper.
[23:48] <tarzeau-ppc> bobbytek2: amiwm and window maker
[23:49] <sebsebseb> !polls | FriedrichMan
[23:49] <sebsebseb> FriedrichMan: Fluxbox,  uhmm  loads of them to choose from
[23:49] <bobbytek2> tarzeau: thanks my friend
[23:49] <bobbytek2> will check it out
[23:50] <tarzeau-ppc> i'm not friends with americans
[23:50] <ogob> myrl: .txt
[23:50] <FriedrichMan> I don't want to get people's opinions on the channel... if I don't get to boot on winXP by tonight I am losing my job
[23:50] <z3r0-c001> if my linux ever got a virus LOL how would one go about destroying it
[23:50] <sebsebseb> bobbytek2: looks like I messaged wrong person there, see above
[23:50] <SlayerQuad93> how do you get your text in red? is that a direct text? if so, how do you do it?
[23:50] <greezmunkey> *Question* I'm looking through dmesg output, looking for the video driver being loaded. I can't seem to find it - Am I lookin gin the right place, or not?
[23:50] <myrl> ogob i think some wiruses are in txt files
[23:50] <bobbytek2> sebsebseb: I didn't ask for the best did i?
[23:50] <sebsebseb> bobbytek2: no, but anyway
[23:50] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: by puting the persons name who you are speaking to
[23:50] <myrl> ogob *viruses
[23:51] <K-19> FriedrichMan : Relax!
[23:51] <SlayerQuad93> i did, no red
[23:51] <sebsebseb> FriedrichMan: messaged wrong one
[23:51] <SlayerQuad93> IdleOne
[23:51] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: if you put my nick I will see it in red
[23:51] <Mark____> IM JUST GOT UBUNTU AND UNDER WIRELESS NETWORKS IT SAYS DEVICE NOT READY!!! WHAT DO I DO?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !tab | SlayerQuad93
[23:51] <IdleOne> !caps | Mark____
[23:51] <tarzeau-ppc> Mark____: run in circles and shout: HELP! HELP!
[23:51] <SlayerQuad93> IdleOne,
[23:52] <IdleOne> SlayerQuad93: yes I see that in red
[23:52] <SlayerQuad93> lol ok
[23:52] <SlayerQuad93> im such a noob
[23:52] <Mark____> so how can i connect?
[23:52] <IdleOne> when I type to you with your nick, SlayerQuad93 I see it in black but you see it in red
[23:52] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Mark____
[23:52] <SlayerQuad93> awesome
[23:52] <myrl> !hammertime
[23:53] <K-19> Mark____ : Try it from Live CD..if you see the wireless around you then simply jump to install it and enjoy.
[23:53] <FriedrichMan> So whats a possible way to boot from windows now?
[23:53] <IdleOne> myrl: don't use the bot to play with in here. #ubuntu-bots
[23:53] <sebsebseb> myrl: oh?
[23:53] <greezmunkey> FriedrichMan: I came in late, what's the problem?
[23:53] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: how do i enable my wireless card in ubuntu?
[23:53] <Dark_Wolf> Does anyone know how to fix a botched grub with wubi?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !wireless | SlayerQuad93
[23:53] <Mark____> k-19 whats live-cd?
[23:54] <FriedrichMan> greezmunkey after 10.4 upgrade... grub won't boot on windows any longer
[23:54] <Cynthia> !livecd
[23:54] <SlayerQuad93> ubottu: i was there all day and i did not find anything about how to enable a wireless adapter in ubuntu
[23:54] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: if  setting up wireless in Ubuntu is to much of a problem for you,  try a Mandriva Live CD :)  your wireless is more likely to just work there
[23:54] <greezmunkey> FriedrichMan: It was a dual boot prior?
[23:54] <gbmarc> i have a problem with my wireless printer. I installed my drivers correctly. I can print with the usb wire without problems. However, when I try to print it without the usb wire. My laptop does not detect it. I have a MFC-490CW form brother. Is there someone that could help me?
[23:55] <FriedrichMan> yes.... I had never had any issues
[23:55] <bp0> so anyone?
[23:55] <Mark____> how do i get this livecd?
[23:55] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: i never heard of it, how do i get it?
[23:55] <Cynthia> Mark____: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[23:55] <nilla> Hello everybody
[23:55] <FriedrichMan> greezmunkey: the worst is that windows XP apprears as a booting option from GRUB
[23:55] <K-19> Mark____ : Simply run if from the CD ; no need to install and then see for the wi-fi.
[23:55] <eddvrs> hi nilla
[23:55] <bp0> does anyone know what I am talking about with the middle-button to scroll in any direction behavior of windows?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> gbmarc: can you ping the printers IP?
[23:55] <FriedrichMan> but when I hit enter...well nothing really happens. I get a blank screen
[23:55] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: I can't quarrantee that it will just work on that, but what sometimes happens is, a wireless doesn't just work in Ubuntu, but does just work in another one
[23:55] <nilla> Does anyone here have experience rooting the Motorola Droid through Ubuntu? I am running Android 2.1
[23:56] <greezmunkey> FriedrichMan: Will it boot into Ubuntu?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> bp0: where you click to enable it the move the mouse to scroll in that direction
[23:56] <GeekSquid> nilla: PM me for info
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> !ot | nilla
[23:56] <FriedrichMan> greezmunkey: oh, no problems with ubuntu... I m online form ubuntu right now
[23:56] <O__o> hello
[23:56] <bp0> ActionParsnip, right, how do i set that up in ubunut?
[23:56] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: all i want to do is enable my dell wireless 1392 card (built-in)
[23:56] <Mark____> k-19 but why i do i need the installation disk if i already have ubuntu?
[23:56] <greezmunkey> FriedrichMan: do you know what version of grub you have?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> bp0: no idea dude, sorry
[23:57] <Mark____> slayerquad93: same here
[23:57] <O__o> how come my status cant get online?
[23:57] <O__o> u know the top right cornor,
[23:57] <SlayerQuad93> Mark_____: you have the same problem?
[23:57] <K-19> Mark____ : Its a recommended, first try & then install.
[23:57] <Mark____> yup
[23:58] <FriedrichMan> greezmunkey: I guess the new one... since I am having problems since upgrade and menu.lst was replaced for grub.gfc
[23:58] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: so yeah native some how probably, will work in Ubuntu,  or  Ndiswrapper with the Windows driver
[23:58] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: i had use ndisgtk
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> gbmarc: can you ping the printers ip?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: ok did you get any where with that?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> gbmarc: if the printer is wireless it will have a network device in it and will have an IP address just like a PC
[23:59] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: yeah, driver installed ok.
[23:59] <greezmunkey> FriedrichMan: grub.gfc ??
[23:59] <SlayerQuad93> sebsebseb: Hardware is present
[23:59] <sebsebseb> SlayerQuad93: wireless  didn't just work is a common issue for Ubuntu, but there are various wireless didn't just work issues, so yes Mark____ has something similar
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> FriedrichMan: yes but manually editting grub.cfg is not advised
[23:59] <gbmarc> yes i agree