[08:17] <tjingboem> astraljava, ik had een probleem met de terminal maar die is opgelost
[09:54] <astraljava> Huh? English please. :)
[10:39] <jussi> poor astraljava doesnt know dutch...
[11:36] <astraljava> jussi: Hehehe. :) Do you, punk? HUH?!
[11:36] <jussi> astraljava: shh
[11:36] <jussi> :P
[11:37] <astraljava> :D
[16:33] <fedel> hi! someone knows if can i use virtual instruments (in vst) in linux?
[16:33] <fedel> and how I do this
[16:34] <holstein> hey fedel
[16:35] <fedel> hi holstein (and sorry about my english, i don't "speak" very well)
[16:37] <holstein> fedel: no worries :)
[16:38] <holstein> there is a way to do what you want to do
[16:38] <holstein> i think it depends on the VST's
[16:38] <fedel> hum, ok
[16:39]  * holstein doesnt do much MIDI
[16:39] <holstein> what VST's are you trying to use?
[16:39] <fedel> i would like to use a vst plugin that emulate instruments
[16:39] <holstein> yeah... do you know which one?
[16:40] <fedel> one moment
[16:41] <fedel> like nanotron (http://streetvst.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanotron.html)
[16:41] <fedel> it's emulate a mellotron
[16:42] <fedel> (i'm trying to use this and others vst's to stop using Ableton Live, I would like to use only linux to make my music's)
[16:42] <holstein> let e give you a couple links
[16:42] <holstein> and a suggestion
[16:43] <holstein> -- /j #opensourcemusicians
[16:43] <holstein> some guys over there have WAY more MIDI experience
[16:43] <holstein> http://myubuntu.info/Info/vst/
[16:43] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[16:43] <fedel> hum thanks, i'm looking for some channel abour this
[16:43] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976079
[16:44] <holstein> ALSO
[16:44] <holstein> just try looking for something in linux that does what you want
[16:44] <holstein> there are all kinds of soft-synths and 'sound-font' players
[16:45] <holstein> when i made the switch from cubase on XP
[16:45] <holstein> i spent some time trying to get my favorite VST plug-ins working
[16:45] <holstein> audio plugins
[16:46] <holstein> then i just tried the plugins that we have freely available
[16:46] <holstein> and for the most part, i feel they are much nicer
[16:46] <holstein> and i was able to find better alternatives to the software i was use to
[16:47] <fedel> cool, thanks for the tips
[16:47] <fedel> i'm starting to use linux for music
[16:47] <holstein> welcome aboard fedel :)
[16:48] <fedel> thank you holstein =)
[16:48] <holstein> i hope you find it as rewarding as i have
[16:49] <fedel> i hope too!
[16:49] <fedel> i need to go now, but i'll go back another day. thank you again holstein
[16:50] <holstein> later
[16:50] <fedel> see you
[17:56] <ume> hi
[17:59] <holstein> hey ume
[18:06] <ume>  :'(
[20:09] <ska> Do I need a midi-card to use things like rosegarden and zynaddsubfx ? If so, is there a recommeneded page?
[20:09] <holstein> hey ska
[20:09] <holstein> you dont
[20:09] <holstein> you can use your qwerty keyboard to 'get your feet wet'
[20:10] <holstein> OR any other method of creating MIDI input
[20:10] <holstein> like, drawing the data in on a piano roll editor
[20:11] <ska> holstein: We also have a low-range yamaha keyboard with usb midi-output.
[20:11] <holstein> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/doc/en/matrix-view.html
[20:12] <ska> I suppose I need a way to get sound out too. I was looking at rakarrack too and it looks decent.
[20:12] <holstein> ska: have you plugged it in to ubuntu yet?
[20:12] <holstein> the USB midi keyboard?
[20:12] <holstein> ska: rakarrack is Fn awesome
[20:12] <ska> holstein: not yet.. I need to try that. Perhaps I should install ubuntustudio first :)
[20:12] <holstein> BUT its only an effects processor
[20:13] <holstein> ska: are you running ubuntu?
[20:13] <holstein> you can get a lucid live CD
[20:13] <holstein> and run something like 'lsusb' in a terminal
[20:13] <holstein> and you should see the USB midi keyboard listed
[20:13] <ska> holstein: sure.. I saw that raka got their fx from zynaddsubfx.. Yea I run generic ubuntu now.. but I need to re-install because the disks are old and failing.
[20:15] <ska> Ok.. Im just starting out.. My normal work is linux/unix sysadmin, but I want to get back into music.
[20:15] <holstein> cool
[20:15] <ska> I'm sorta lost with midi.
[20:15] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians
[20:15]  * holstein doesnt do a lot of MIDI either
[20:16] <ska> ok.. cool.. I'll try to hook some components together and re-visit.
[20:16] <holstein> sure
[20:16] <holstein> and you can try an ubuntu-based distro with a LIVE disc
[20:16] <holstein> something like pure-dyne
[20:16] <holstein> or KSstudio
[20:16] <holstein> and see if your gear is compatible
[20:17] <holstein> oops
[20:17] <holstein> KXstudio **
[20:18] <ska> sure.. I have a near-new AMD 64 system with a 3-core..
[20:18] <ska> cpu that is.
[20:18] <holstein> that should do it ;)
[20:18] <ska> I got it to do some of this type of stuff. For my son too.. graphics etc.
[20:38] <ska> Does ubuntustudio have a live cd?
[21:42] <holstein> ska: thats the issue
[21:43] <holstein> if you want to see how all the studio software works on a live distro
[21:43] <holstein> you'll need to check out something like pure-dyne
[22:02] <ska> ok.. thanks again.
[22:57] <Pablo_> what would be a good USB 4 in 2 out interface for 8.04?
[22:57] <holstein> hey Pablo_
[22:58] <holstein> do you need mic preamps?
[22:58] <holstein> http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodid=1901
[22:58] <holstein> that thing is nice for the money
[22:58] <Pablo_> no, but cheap is good
[22:59] <holstein> and quite veratile as a stand alone device
[22:59] <holstein> Pablo_: does it have to be USB?
[23:00] <holstein> how cheap?
[23:00] <holstein> whats your budget?
[23:01] <Pablo_> i need USB for portability and ill be coming out of a mixer
[23:01] <Pablo_> about $150-200
[23:02] <Pablo_> I was just wondering about stability
[23:03] <holstein> http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UFO202-U-Phono-High-Quality-Interface/dp/B002GHBYZ0
[23:03] <holstein> this is 2 in 2 out
[23:03] <holstein> and under 40 bucks
[23:03] <holstein> in my opinion
[23:03] <holstein> if your not going to get something with balanced inputs
[23:03] <holstein> you might as well go with that
[23:04] <holstein> i know it works well in ubuntu
[23:04] <holstein> decent latency
[23:04] <holstein> SORRY
[23:04] <holstein> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023BYDHK/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002GHBYZ0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JDQACVT5JKPM2TM08X7
[23:04] <holstein> thtas the one
[23:05] <holstein> hmmm
[23:15] <holstein> Pablo_: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023BYDHK/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002GHBYZ0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JDQACVT5JKPM2TM08X7
[23:15] <holstein> thats the one
[23:15] <holstein> the other one i linked is the 'phono' version
[23:16] <Pablo_> sorry about that.
[23:18] <Pablo_> does behringer stuff mostly work? i really need to be able to isolate 3 mics.
[23:23] <holstein> i can only say for sure about that one unit
[23:23] <holstein> because a fend uses it
[23:23] <holstein> and likes it
[23:23] <holstein> friend*
[23:24] <holstein> Pablo_: you should look into the http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackPro.html
[23:37] <Pablo_> do you know of anyone havimg success witht the fastrack stuff?
[23:38] <holstein> not sure
[23:38] <holstein> i got an maudio midi keyboard
[23:38] <holstein> works great
[23:38] <holstein> other than that, i dont do audio over USB
[23:40] <Pablo_> Im trying to get a decent laptop based rig so i dont have to gut my main system every other week.
[23:40] <Pablo_> thanks for all your help though.
[23:40] <holstein> anytime
[23:41] <holstein> check out http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/