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Guest35858need some help... when ever i minimize something it totaly dissapears from the taskbar... i have to restart the app00:46
Guest35858any help?00:46
marloshousei just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking.  mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone.  is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset?00:47
Typos_King..00:54
Typos_Kingmarloshouse:    maybe if you delete your account, and make a new one :)00:54
marloshouseoey00:56
marloshousei deleted ~/.kde and it didn't clear anything up00:56
marloshousemaybe i'll make a new account and see what difference that makes :)00:57
Typos_Kingheh, ok00:57
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gonssalhi01:36
Typos_Kingallo01:37
AmpersandOhhh yeah01:38
hceylandoes any1 experience some memory leak in kde?01:39
hceylanAfter like working for 8 hours I loose 1G of memory. That is after loging out and logging back in to kde01:40
hceylanso no any app is running01:40
hceylanmy bare kde desktop01:40
Ampersandyou sure its not system cache?01:40
hceylanyes01:40
hceylanthe calculation is after used - cache01:40
hceylanand top reports about 700M total RSS usage01:41
hceylanacutaly free reports 1.4 G usage01:41
Typos_Kingmaybe is just cached memory01:42
Ampersandmaybe the memory fairy came and took it away ;p01:43
Ampersandinteresting though01:43
Typos_Kinghehe01:43
Typos_Kingwell01:43
gonssalhow do you remove the "Auto eth0" thing from the network manager?01:44
gonssalor at least set another one to default?01:44
Typos_Kingfrom what I can tell is, he really dunnos if memory is actually gone, he's just assessing what the memory apps are reporting01:44
progre55I hate the stupid knetworkmanager01:45
progre55how do you disconnect from a wireless connection?01:45
AmpersandTypos_King: thats what the memory fairy does01:45
Ampersand;p01:45
Typos_Kinghehe01:46
progre55hmm.. it really is stupid01:46
gonssalnot possible to remove autho eth0 from knetwork manager?01:48
progre55gonssal: did you try opening "manage connections"?01:48
gonssalits not here01:49
gonssalthere01:49
gonssaland you cant set another one for default01:49
gonssaleven if i ask it to connect automatically to a created connection, it still connects to auto eth0 on start01:49
progre55hmm.. yeah, I dont see any either01:50
progre55damn, knetworkmanager is the only (for now) thing I hate about kde..01:50
ald0baralgun mexicano ?????????????01:51
Typos_Kingprogre55:    ahe...  to the risk of sounding redundant, I'd say, ditch knetworkmanager and install -> network-manager-gnome01:53
Typos_Kingas far as using that one, you just right-click it and click on 'enable wireless'01:54
progre55Typos_King: so, have you been using the gnome nmanager?01:55
Typos_Kingyes01:55
Typos_Kingis what  I'm using right now :)01:56
progre55actually, I have gnome+kde, so I do have network-manager-gnome installed..01:56
progre55so I just need to remove knetworkmanager from startup and replace it with the gnome one..01:56
Ampersandprogre55:  underwear gnomes?01:56
Typos_KingI've used in the paste knetworkmanager, then I check around for others, as it didn't seem great, the reviews and as I tested, is gnome's is really a much better app01:56
progre55Ampersand: funny01:57
Typos_Kingit's network manager for that matter, otherwise I use most kde apps, thus I run kde :)01:57
progre55Typos_King: well, I'll switch to the gnome nm, too..01:57
Typos_Kingwell01:58
Typos_Kingto run it, if it's installed already, just run 'nm-applet'01:58
Typos_Kingit'll show up in the tray01:58
progre55yeah I know01:59
progre55but I want to add it to startup01:59
progre55is it okay if I just add it to system-settings > advanced > auto-start?01:59
progre55and how to remove knetworkmanager from startup w/o uninstalling it?02:00
progre55Typos_King: ^^02:01
progre55arright, I'm off02:03
Typos_Kingyes02:06
Typos_KingI was going to say that :)02:06
Typos_KingI think knetworkmanager has an option in it, to run at startup02:06
AmpersandEiigh have gas.02:07
Ampersandwb hceylan02:11
hceylanhi there, still 1.5G02:11
Ampersandafter logging into gnome????02:12
hceylanAs the last resort I will do init 1 and check the memory usage when I am in runlevel 102:12
Ampersandwell do that and see02:12
hceylanthis will make sure no gui stuff is running02:12
Ampersandbut it isnt kde :)02:12
Ampersandit could be DX02:12
AmpersandX02:12
hceylanand only left with basic processes like dbus, kernel02:12
hceylanOK going off again...02:12
AmpersandX would have more mem holes than a wedge of  swiss cheese02:13
hceylanAmpersand: I am back02:20
Ampersandok02:20
Ampersandill be there in a sec02:20
Ampersandim in mysql hell right now02:20
hceylanwhen I did init 1 I was using only 4 processes that reports memory usage not 002:21
hceylanbut still 1.5G usage02:21
hceylanAmpersand: I can help you if you like with mysql02:21
hceylanAmpersand: I am a mysql expert ;)02:21
Ampersandthats ok..  i gots it :)02:21
Ampersandthanks tho02:21
hceylanSo the problem is definitely a leak in the kernel I believe02:21
hceylanAFAIK, if the leak was in a process, when the process dies, the memory is totally reclaimed by the kernel02:22
hceylanSo if it is not reclamed after everything is shut off (err except the kernel), probably the problem relies in Linus's domain :)02:23
hceylanI should create a bugzilla with Kubuntu...02:24
hceylanAmpersand: thanks for the help man02:24
hceylanAmpersand: have a nice one...02:25
Ampersanda leak in the kernel is odd02:25
Ampersandwhat happend?02:25
Ampersand4 processes02:25
Ampersand1.5G sounds like youve been hacked02:25
Ampersandlike a root kitted kernel02:25
funcrushI upgraded kubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04, and then, Konsole shortcut (hotkey) doesn't work, (I set it Meta+K) How can I solve it?02:30
sorush20hi02:46
sorush20I have a problem, I've just logged into kde for the first time but I can't see the menu or e02:47
iconmefistofuncrush: systemsettings > input actions02:48
funcrushiconmefisto: yup..02:49
what_ifI updated kubuntu 10.04 yesterday and now my quick launch opens konqueror instead of dolphin... how can I fix this? There was no choice of FM in the settings.02:49
Anydayim using the 10.04 live cd trying to install kubuntu and when it gets to the disk partition it shows a raid array but i do not have one setup just 2 1tb drives, one which has another distro on it.02:49
Anydayany idea if there is a boot option not to load raid?02:49
iconmefistowhat_if: look in systemsettings > default applications02:50
Lord_Rahlanyone know of a music manager for KDE other then amarok?02:51
funcrushiconmefisto: thank you I found it!!!02:51
what_ificonmefisto: tyvm... that was it.02:51
Lord_Rahlso no one know of a differnt music manager? hhmmm02:53
iconmefistoLord_Rahl: juk02:53
iconmefistoLord_Rahl: minirok02:54
Lord_Rahliconmefisto: thanks I will check them out02:55
ch3mtailAfter installing packages with apt-get or dpkg, entries appear in the start menu, but they don't show up on typing into the search field of the menu.  Is there a manual way of getting the search function to update? (I've disabled strigi/nepomuk, if that matters).03:04
voltyhi, help, I wanted to give a look at xfce, it installed splash screen, modified /boot/grub directory, how can I fix this ?03:08
voltyand the dir is full of .mod files03:09
iconmefistoch3mtail: kbuildsycoca (in konsole)03:14
ch3mtailAh, thanks.03:15
iconmefistovolty: you want to change the boot splash back to the kubuntu one?03:15
iconmefistoch3mtail: actually it's kbuildsycoca4, but it probably does the same without the 403:16
ch3mtailYeah, I just saw that kbuildsycoca was trying to call dcop and figured it belonged to KDE303:17
voltyiconmefisto: yes, but also to roll back changes it did in the grub directory, it made everything ubuntu03:17
voltyiconmefisto: and how it did that? I didn't gave sudo password03:18
iconmefistovolty: made what ubuntu?03:18
voltyiconmefisto: menus03:18
iconmefistosudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth to choose the boot splash03:18
voltyno menu.lst but grub.cfg, not kubuntu but ubuntu03:18
iconmefistothen sudo update-grub03:19
voltymy uname -a now says: Linux zat 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux03:19
iconmefistovolty: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst03:19
voltyiconmefisto: ah, thx03:19
iconmefisto!grub203:20
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub203:20
iconmefistovolty: sorry, got that wrong. after sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, sudo update-initramfs03:21
voltyiconmefisto: thx, got it. Another question: they (xfce) shouln't do it (changing splash screen or whatever not requested) ?03:23
iconmefistovolty: boot splash gets changed when you install a *-desktop package03:24
iconmefistovolty: maybe file a bug if you think it shouldn't do that03:24
voltyiconmefisto: i'll do that, thx :)03:25
Ampersandwhy is my steam engine not working03:33
Ampersandi was told kubuntu was supposed to come with one03:33
iconmefistoneeds coal?03:33
Ampersandyes03:33
Ampersandand a few vacuum tubes03:33
Ampersandfor the crew cabins tv03:33
* Ampersand gives Barridus a trophy03:37
Barridus:O03:38
* Barridus bows03:39
Barridusthank you, thank you all03:39
* Ampersand appaulds03:39
AmpersandWTG!!03:39
Ampersandcongrats!03:39
Ampersandhi phoenix__03:41
phoenix__hello Ampersand03:41
Ampersanddid you know my avatar is an ampersand03:41
phoenix__Ampersand: oh03:42
Ampersandphoenix__:  did you know you are on irc?03:42
phoenix__Ampersand: you sound like a bot03:43
Ampersandphoenix__:  oh.03:43
Ampersandphoenix__:  you are junior03:43
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walrus10hola04:26
Ampersandhola coma estas espaniol?04:43
ch3mtailAl agua sobre casi todo tipo de materiales matiéres.04:45
ch3mtailActually, I'm just reading stuff off the label of my permanent marker, but it sounds impressive unless you actually understand it.04:46
Ampersandwell04:47
Ampersandto the water!04:47
Ampersandon allmost all types of materials04:47
ch3mtailPlasma is tricky, but doable.04:48
Ampersandnah.. plama just makes you implement for the most part your own paint event04:52
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kwtmHi. Ran out of disk space, need to empty trash can.  Where is KDE4 trash directory located?  Already checked "~/Trash" and "~/.kde/share/apps/trash" etc.  Thx for urgently needed help.04:59
ch3mtailheh04:59
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ch3mtailkwtm: I think it's ~/.local/share/Trash/files/  these days05:01
ch3mtailkwtm: If you have admin access you could try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' (to remove installed packages that are no longer required by anything on the system) and 'sudo apt-get autoclean' (to remove caches of downloaded packages that have been installed (it will not uninstall the packages)).05:03
ch3mtailMight clear a lot of space, all depending.05:03
alexandrecstem algue ae?05:03
kwtmch3mtail: Thx for responding.  I just checked it.  Directory is emjpty05:03
alexandrecstem alguem q fale português?05:04
kwtmch3mtail: I used "du -s" on a parent directory, and it's not .local/share/Trash.05:04
Ampersandno thank you kwtm05:04
ch3mtailkwtm: Don't take my word for it, I just had a quick look around in my home folder and that was the only trash folder I found05:04
kwtmch3mtail: Thanks for suggestgion of deleting packages.  However, I have 4 GB of files in 4 files that are no longer necessary, and I really don't want to have to autoclean and beg and plead (my computer) to scrape up that much free space when I know I should have over 4GB free.05:05
ch3mtailAh, I see :)05:05
kwtmAmpersand: No thank you?  I didn't offer anything... :P05:05
ch3mtailHe's weird.05:06
kwtmThx.  Will look for other ways.  Will sleep now (feeling ill).  Thx for straightforward help without RTFM.  Bye!05:06
Ampersandkwtm: i was thanking you for no reason :)05:07
ch3mtailI've been wondering about the trash folder myself at times, even though I don't use it, but so far the only viable candidates are ~/.Trash and the aforementioned ~/.local/share/Trash  :/05:07
jacostachhi all people :D05:20
jacostachmi first msg :D05:20
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marloshousei just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking.  mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone.  is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset?05:27
jacostach i don't knowhow to use this  :P05:28
jacostachbyeeeee05:28
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jacostach_alquien q hable español ?05:31
* jacostach_ Hola a todos :D05:33
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angeloi have a problem with audio: when i start ubuntu, audio is mute06:08
FuzzDid you install the right drivers?06:09
angeloi have this device: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)06:11
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Duxthe vga port doesn't work in my netbook (kubuntu netbook remix 10.04 installed) :(06:46
mustafa??06:46
ForgeAusDux normally theres a key combo to switch to it if you didn't alredy know06:58
ForgeAus(something like Fn + F3 or so depending on the brand)06:58
ForgeAussome can switch between modes like LCD, VGA, VGA + LCD...06:59
ForgeAusalso if the hardware of the port is damaged its not a kubuntu issue...07:00
Duxi know it, (alt f5); usually it works in ubuntu netbook remix07:00
ForgeAusanother thing to look at is if X needs a different config for that...07:00
Duxbut doesn't work in kubuntu :(07:00
ForgeAusit is plausible that its a bug in kubuntu...07:00
ForgeAusalt? really? thats odd07:01
Duxsorry.. fn+f507:01
ForgeAusyeah sounds lots more likely :)07:02
ForgeAuswow adobe flex is open-source?07:03
ForgeAus(as opposed to foss perhaps)07:03
mefistofelhi all07:17
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heavybreakerHi Ummm is anyone having problems with Google Chrome not loading webpages on kubuntu 10.04?07:53
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heavybreakerAnyone?07:57
heavybreakerHi Ummm is anyone having problems with Google Chrome not loading webpages on kubuntu 10.04?08:08
HazamonzoThis is a silly question but.... in need to find out what version of kubuntu 10.04 im running x86 or x64.. How might i do this?08:59
WindPowerdpkg --print-architecture09:00
Hazamonzoamd6409:00
HazamonzoThank you :D09:00
WindPowerTada~09:00
HazamonzoI honestly could not remember09:00
HazamonzoSounds stupid09:01
anydayanyone have any ideas why the kubuntu installer cant see my 2 sata drives? they show up as an array but there are not setup as raid09:02
TheAncientGoatWhere does lucid store it's default swappiness? /etc/sysctl.conf doesnt seem to mention it....09:18
phoenix__hello everyone09:28
phoenix__i like to configure alsa to get bass redirected can anyone help me09:29
JunikszHello. Does anyone know why doesn't start the kubuntu 10.04 with the 2.6.32-22-generic version? The system loads, the graphical interface aren't displayed, only the tty2 console surface. I can use the system only with the 2.6.32-21-generic version.09:53
KimppaI need to downgrade my jdk and jre from 6 to 5, but v5 isn't in the repository. Any ideas from which repository I could find it?10:23
Fleckcan i install kde 3.5 on kubuntu 10.04?10:28
tsimpsonFleck: see http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/10:32
Flecktsimpson thank you! :)10:32
tsimpsonand note that KDE 3.5.x is completely unsupported, both by Kubuntu and KDE10:32
tsimpsonso it's at your own risk etc10:32
Flecktsimpson well, i would like to use kde 4, but i am tired of lags, slowdowns etc...10:37
Fleckwriting code in kwrite... simple thing, but moving with page down/up make 100% cpu usage lags so badly10:38
Fleck:(10:38
Flecksick of this10:38
Flecktrying to install recomended nvidia drivers - getting error: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid.10:39
ucenik01strumica10:41
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casi36hi alle12:32
JediMaster-hi guys, running 10.04 LTS, this is the second time this has happened in the last few weeks. The mouse and keyboard have locked up but the machine is still running12:36
JediMaster-I cannot move the mouse, the cursor stays still, the keyboard doesn't do anything (ctrl-alt-f1 for instance doesn't bring up the console, and num-lock or caps lock don't go on)12:37
kwtmhi.  I have a different problem: I removed the system tray, then reinserted it onto another panel I created.  But it's missing that "USB"-like icon that tells me when some media has been inserted (e.g. DVD or SD card).  How can I get it back?12:37
JediMaster-the machine is still working, I can hear streaming radio from firefox playing, and until the powersaving just kicked in, I cold see cursor flashing and animations running12:37
kwtmJediMaster-: Hmm, sounds like you're worse off than I am.  Might be a hardware problem overall... I trust that everything was fine before you upgraded to 10.04?12:37
JediMaster-I'm sshed into the machine from my laptop, what can I do to get the keyboard/mouse back?12:38
JediMaster-kwtm, I upgraded weeks ago, and yeah, not had this problem before12:38
kwtmJediMaster-: So, you can't use the KDE GUI, but you have the bash shell from a remote terminal, correct?12:38
JediMaster-there's nothing unusual in /var/log/syslog at the time it happened12:38
JediMaster-yes12:38
JediMaster-I also can't get to tty1 console with ctrl-alt-f112:39
kwtmJediMaster-: Does Ctrl-Shift-F1 let you switch to another terminal?  (Or was it Ctrl-Alt-F1?  Can't rmemeber).12:39
JediMaster-ctrl-alt-f112:39
JediMaster-no12:39
JediMaster-there is still power to both the keyboard and mouse (lights are on)12:40
kwtmJediMaster-: I had similar problems but the entire GUI went away, when I tried playing BZflag (which hogs the screen graphics, and may be interfering with compositing).12:40
JediMaster-both are usb12:40
JediMaster-kwtm, no, it's not that as I could see animations still working correctly12:40
JediMaster-it's just like the keyboard/mouse have been disconnected12:40
kwtmJediMaster-: Oh, so it could conceivably be a USB problem.  Do you want to try VNC'ing into the machine GUI or is that too complicated?12:40
JediMaster-speaking of which, going to pull them out/back in12:40
kwtmJediMaster-: SImple thought: remove, then reconnect peripherals?12:40
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kwtmJediMaster-: Your thought was quicker than mine. :)12:41
JediMaster-read above12:41
JediMaster-=)12:41
kwtmJediMaster-: Also try connecting peripherals to other machine, verify that they still work (just to eliminate one unlikely but easily eliminated possibility)12:41
JediMaster-ok, that didn't work12:41
JediMaster-trying the mouse on this laptop....12:42
kwtmI can sort of guide you through getting VNC set up on your semi-crashed machine and see if you can get into the GUI from the remote machine.12:42
kwtmIs it that you want to diagnose the problem, or you have data to save from this particular GUI session that you don't want to destroy?12:42
JediMaster-mouse works on here12:42
JediMaster-can't get into gui from remote machine12:42
kwtmIf you just want to diagnose the problem, I don't know what it means to have VNC working so you might as well reboot or something.12:42
JediMaster-data is mostly ok, would like to diagnose it12:43
kwtmJediMaster-: Have you already tried VNC from remote machine?12:43
JediMaster-don't have vnc server installed/running12:43
kwtmwant to know how?  I can do it through text terminal (sudo apt-get install x11vnc, then run "x11vnc") and connect via KDE Krdc.12:43
JediMaster-how do you get x11vnc to connect to the running X via ssh?12:44
kwtmAh, that is the key, little one!  (imagine a wizened old voice here. :) )12:44
kwtmSSh into the machine, and "sudo apt-get install x11vnc".  Then type "export DISPLAY=:0".12:44
JediMaster-think it's automatically picked the display12:45
JediMaster-yeah know how to install it =P12:45
kwtmThat last line is key, which lets the newly installed x11vnc get into your currently running session.12:45
kwtmThen type x11vnc, and that's it.12:45
JediMaster-didn't need to export the display, it autodetected it12:45
kwtmOn better days, you should actually tunnel the VNC connection through SSh, but today just to eliminate complications, just do a straight connection.12:45
JediMaster-ok, I'm in12:46
kwtmOnce you have run "x11vnc" on server and it's waiting for a connection, you can use the built-in "Krdc" (K remote desktop connection) of KDE, or you can install tightvncviewer or something,.12:46
kwtmJediMaster-: Is the GUI responding?12:46
JediMaster-screen has come out of power saving12:46
JediMaster-yes12:46
JediMaster-only via VNC12:46
JediMaster-no keyboard/mouse12:46
JediMaster-(works via vnc)12:47
kwtmOkay, so we know it's a USB screwup then.  As I suspected, it's probably some hardware thing.  Hopefully they'll have a fix but I'm not sure how else I can help you here.12:47
ForgeAusRDP is a better protocol than VNC tho isn't it?12:47
kwtmSay, you know how to get that "usb icon" thing in KDE?12:47
kwtmForgeAus: Possibly, but I am more familiar with VNC and the software author has been very responsive in answering questions.12:48
thomasfustonAloha!, is there any known reason why kmail cant sent e-mails anymore, i getting always the same error12:48
ForgeAus(unfortunately xRDP runs via VNC however ... )12:48
kwtmI even gave the author of x11vnc a $30 donation, twice, because it was such good software.12:48
kwtmthomasfuston: Yes!  I know how to solve your problem (short term)l.12:48
JediMaster-says no devices plugged in, but don't think it shows the mouse/keyboard normally12:49
kwtmthomasfuston: Or at least I get a similar problem.  Seems to be when you have kmail open, then it goes into suspend to RAM (possibly to disk, too)12:49
kwtmJediMaster-: Can you do me a favour to help with my problem?  That "no devices plugged in" --what is the name of that widget?  I need a name to google to figure out how to put it back on my control panel.12:49
kwtmthomasfuston: Could you please do this: "ps -ef12:50
thomasfustonkwtm: na always tells me something wrong with the address rejected by server, but its impossible couse if i send it from webmail it works 100% so the mistake have to be in kmail12:50
kwtmthomasfuston: Could you please do this: "ps -ef | grep kmail" in a terminal?12:50
kwtmthomasfuston: It could be in Kmail or other parts of the KDE system... your problem may be a different one, but I'll just check to see if it's mine.  Go ahead with the ps -ef | grep kmail12:51
JediMaster-kwtm, Device Notifier12:51
thomasfustonkwtm: thomas    3837  1552  1 13:49 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto kmail12:51
kwtmJediMaster-: Thank you!  Will start googling.  I tell ya, this switch from KDE3 to KDE4 has me tearing my hair out.12:51
JediMaster-np12:51
kwtmthomasfuston: If there's only one line, then it's not my problem.  You may want to go to Kmail > Tools > Configure Kmail > Accounts > Sending > check what the server supports (if that button's still there).  I had problems where I set it to some level of encryption, and then it worked, then it didn't work later, then I had to set it to no encryption, then it failed again but worked when I turned encryption back on.12:52
thomasfustonkwtm: thx so far, i will try it, scary problem, if i not get it working i have to switch to thunderbird or something12:53
kwtmJediMaster-: It worked!  I was able to add Device Notifier!  Thanks.12:54
kwtmthomasfuston: Yeah, kmail is a very refined program that suddenly astonishes you with how very crappy a small portion of it is, and you say, "They haven't fixed THAT yet???"12:55
kwtmOh, anyone: how do I make the panel at the bottom of the screen disappear for a while?  There are no longer those "hide panel" buttons that slide the panel out of sight when you want more space on the screen.12:57
JediMaster-autohide?12:57
JediMaster-click panel tool box button next to the clock on the right, then "more settings" then auto-hide12:58
JediMaster-meh, still no mouse/keyboard13:00
JediMaster-checking X11 log13:00
JediMaster-or rather Xorg.0.log13:01
kinghello, it is my first time to use linux13:02
kingit feel so cool13:02
JediMaster-king, welcome linux virgin!13:03
kingthank you13:03
ForgeAusperhaps padawan might have been a better term to use...13:05
kwtmWelcome to Linux, king.  Now is a good time to use Kubuntu since this release is supposed to be much higher quality than the previous few.  Don't give up if you encounter problems.  Google or come here to this channel.13:06
kingand it's my first time approach irc.13:06
JediMaster-ForgeAus, nah, there are more jokes you can make with virgin =)13:07
ForgeAuslol JediMaster-13:07
Mamarok_JediMaster-: maybe just not in this channel, remember, support only13:07
kingthank you. i will pay more attention to linux13:07
ForgeAuskwtm I agree, this release is much higher quality... and well presented, except that its lacking some branding touches...13:08
JediMaster-Mamarok_, you'll notice how restrained I was13:08
* JediMaster- still has a lack of keyboard/mouse operation13:09
kingi am from chinese. and my english is so poor13:09
kwtmHey, Mamarok_ is here.  Know how to make the panel (at bottom of screen in Kubuntu) disappear on command?  (I don't want to use autohide since most of the time I still want the panel present.)  There used to be buttons with triangles in KDE3 that would slide the panel off the screen.13:09
JediMaster-king, you are doing fine, we understand you =)13:09
Mamarok_kwtm: hm, not really, no, I use autohide13:10
kwtmIn KDE4 you can't just drag a panel icon around from a panel to another to put it somewhere else.  Not sure why not since it would make things so much easier,13:10
kwtmMamarok_: Thx anyway.13:10
Mamarok_kwtm: those are not icons, those are most of the time widgets, that's why13:11
kwtmANd I don't know how to make the panel automatically expand to take up more room when I put more widgets in, or shrink when there are fewer.13:11
kwtmMamarok_: I'm not sure I understand.  Why should they not be draggable if they are widgets?  (Sorry, "icon" was the wrong terminology, I guess.)13:12
Mamarok_kwtm: hm, I never tried, but of course it would only work in the panel edit mode anymway13:12
JediMaster-should I report this as a bug? I have no debug to report about the keyboard/mouse though, nothing obvious in the logs13:13
kingthank you13:13
Mamarok_and since I only use one panel, I never faced that, I use widgets on the desktop13:13
kwtmJediMaster-: Yeah, if you don't mind, just so other people with the same thing won't think it's something isolated.  Not sure if you'd get a fix, though...13:13
JediMaster-what is this, a "kubuntu" bug, or kde or xorg?13:15
Mamarok_JediMaster-: what bug?13:15
JediMaster-mouse and keyboard completely frozen up at the same time13:15
ForgeAusneither..13:15
JediMaster-but can VNC in the machine remotely without any problems13:16
Mamarok_JediMaster-: likely the graphic driver13:16
Mamarok_what graphic card do you have?13:16
JediMaster-NVidia GTX 26013:16
Mamarok_and which driver?13:16
JediMaster-nvidia-current13:16
kwtmToldja it was hardware related....13:16
Mamarok_I don't know much about Nvidia, but isn't there a nouveau driver?13:16
JediMaster-I doubt this is graphics related13:17
JediMaster-I can see the mouse moving when I move it on vnc13:17
JediMaster-I can see it moving on the real monitor13:17
JediMaster-num-lock, caps-lock etc don't work on the keyboard13:17
Mamarok_I had that mouse/keyboard freeze numerous times in earlier versions with my ATI driver, now it's gone with the newset radeon ones13:17
JediMaster-weird13:17
Mamarok_only with compositing activated though13:18
Mamarok_is it a USB keyboard? could also be udev13:18
JediMaster-yes13:18
JediMaster-both mouse and keyboard are usb13:18
Mamarok_connected directly or over a hub?13:18
JediMaster-directly13:18
JediMaster-I've tried unplugging them and putting them back in, no luck13:19
Mamarok_I know there are usb problems with udev, but mostly with hubs, still, could be a problem13:19
Mamarok_JediMaster-: what about trying the plug in/out several times?13:19
BluesKajHowdy13:20
Mamarok_a friend of mine had to do it up to 5 times till it worked13:20
Mamarok_hi BluesKaj13:20
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JediMaster-weird, shouldn't I see something in syslog when plugging in the keyboard?13:20
Mamarok_JediMaster-: not sure13:20
BluesKajhi Mamarok_13:20
Mamarok_since udev handles that13:20
JediMaster-someone in #kde suggested it was hal not running13:21
Mamarok_JediMaster-: check the systemSettings -> Advanced tab -> Hardware you can see immediately if it's running or not13:21
BluesKajgotta fix grub again, just installeled W7 , so does it stillworkfrom the live cd ?13:22
JediMaster-Mamarok_, I can see hald running, how do you know if it's running, would that tab not come up at all if not?13:23
JediMaster-as it looks normal13:23
Mamarok_JediMaster-: if you see the HAL-Power entry in there, then it is up13:23
BluesKajwell, I guess I'll find out soon enuff13:23
JediMaster-Mamarok_, yup, it's there13:24
Mamarok_soit's not HAL or Solid13:24
prowerhello :> i just installed kubuntu 10.04...i added a new widget to the desktop (the cpu monitor), i'm trying to resize it but every time i'm done it snaps back to its original size? other widgets appear to do this also13:24
Mamarok_prower: how do you resize it?13:24
Mamarok_there is a resize button in the side bar that only appears when you hover over the widget, first button on top13:25
prowerMamarok_: Well, you know how that context menu slides out from under a widget and there's an option to stretch its size in there? That's what I've been using13:25
Mamarok_yes, that should work13:25
Mamarok_it certainly works here13:25
prowerMamarok_: When the context menu disappears it goes back to its original size for me :<13:25
Mamarok_that is strange13:25
Mamarok_prower: if you drag on that icon, the release the mouse it snaps back?13:26
prowerMamarok_: Yes, but only after the context menu disappears...strange13:26
Mamarok_yes, that is indeed strange, with all widgets?13:26
prowerMamarok_: Yes, with every one that I've tried so far13:27
Mamarok_and you use the desktop view?13:27
prowerMamarok_: That's what I'm using currently, it's a completely fresh install as of this moment :>13:28
prower(except for installing irssi to come here :P)13:28
Mamarok_hm, very strange, I can't recall a bug report about that, let me see...13:29
JediMaster-bah, I'm going to restart kdm13:30
JediMaster-hmmmf, "restart kdm" has left me with black screen with two white overlapping boxes13:31
prowerMamarok_: Thanks, there's a bunch of updates that are ready to install so I'm just going to reboot for those, but I'll be back13:31
JediMaster-meh, reboot it is13:31
JediMaster-wow, the plymouth closing down screen was completely screwed up when I rebooted via ssh13:32
JediMaster-but fine now it's rebooted13:32
JediMaster-mouse/keyboard back after reboot13:33
JediMaster-arggh not again13:34
JediMaster-10.04 has been doing this alot13:34
JediMaster-not the mouse/keyboard this time13:34
JediMaster-when I boot, I've got dhcp from another kubuntu box13:34
JediMaster-and it fails to set /etc/resolv.conf to the name servers13:34
JediMaster-but other network settings are fine13:34
JediMaster-if I ifdown/ifup eth0 it works and gets the resolv.conf sorted13:35
proweralright, the widget problem was fixed in an update :> now i just need to figure out how to get the nvidia drivers installed13:47
prowerThere doesn't appear to be an option anywhere to simply "enable" the nvidia drivers like you would in GNOME :> anyone able to point me in the right direction?13:52
coz_hey guys..just installed kubuntu on  my one machine... I would like to access that with vncview via the lucid gnome machine but when running vncviewer I cannot access the kubuntu machine...how do I enable the kubuntu machine to accespt access?13:55
chuckfprower: from the k menu you should be able to type in 'hardware' in the search box and the restricted hardware program should show up as one of the few options13:59
prowerchuckf: Aha, thanks...that's exactly what I was looking for :> It's ready to reboot now, hopefully I'll be back with proper graphics shortly ;>14:00
bawwwdoes anyone know any good file hosting services that are gnu/linux command line friendly?14:02
chuckfdropbox works for me14:03
bawwwchuckf: does it try to sync when you use it from cli?14:06
Dyrconakpackagekit is prompting me to install updates to kopete and libkopete4.14:07
noaXess_netubuhey all14:07
Dyrconahowever, i built the packages from source yesterday, and kpackagekit actually says that it can't install because the updated package is already installed.14:07
Dyrconaquestion is: how do i make kpackagekit stop warning me about these updates?14:08
noaXess_netubui try to install 10.04 64bit on a machine with a nvidia pci-e graficcard engtx260.. after choosing language and few minutes, i get a black screen, losing inout signal on my monitor.. any trick to install 10.04?14:08
noaXess_netubuDyrcona: in settings fo kapackagekit14:09
Dyrconathank, but that looks like it will skip all security updates. i only want to skip the current updates for kopete, 'cause I built it from source with a special patch yesterday.14:12
chuckfbawww: mine syncs whenever there is a change to a file. I've not had to force a sync in recent memory but as I recall that is an option from the command line14:13
noaXess_netubuDyrcona: hm.. i think there is a ignor parameter for apt-get .. but don't know exactly how to setup..14:15
noaXess_netubuok.. got my problem.. it was the installation cd.. strange... read errors.. maybe a bad burner..14:39
ForgeAushappens sometimes14:39
smooois there docs about 9.10?14:50
noaXess_netubusmooo: what do you exactly search for?14:58
saesera15:09
bigbrovarHi guys15:11
bigbrovarIs anyone experiencing blank screen when there reboot on kubuntu lucid?15:11
aurelie_#Armadeus15:15
ToraToraTorabigbrovar: yes, I have15:16
ForgeAusbigbrovar I don't but my boot procedure is very different (since I'm using wubi)15:17
ForgeAusI've had a few freezes during the kubuntu logo on boot, but rebooting fixed it15:18
bigbrovarToraToraTora: the funny thing is I only get the problem when I reboot. If I shutdown and start the system from cold It doesnt happen :(15:19
ToraToraToraSame here15:19
ToraToraToraI got dualboot with WinXP15:19
bigbrovarIt seem to be associated with the way plymouth was implemented.15:19
bigbrovarToraToraTora: I heard there is grub bug with lucid which messes up the OS list for those dual boothing windows. The bug was fixed in the last minute on UBuntu but no Kubuntu (from what I heard I cant verify cus I dont dualbox)15:21
ForgeAusin XP I can do it in two steps by: %windir%\SYSTEM32\CONTROL.EXE Sysdm.cpl, System,2 (opens up system preferences to the right tab for device manager, just doesn't click the button)15:21
ForgeAusor rightclick my computer manage, but I still have to use device manager in the tree there...15:23
ToraToraTorabibrovar: Yes my Kubuntu system had this problem15:23
bigbrovarToraToraTora: which means it must have been a known issue I wish I could find a bug report about it on launchpad15:23
ForgeAusoops wrong window15:24
bigbrovarToraToraTora: Plus I think its a ubuntu issue which affects all the derivatives15:24
ChicanoHi everyone15:24
smooohave u guys got katapult working?15:24
Chicanokrunner locks up on me even when using simple plugins like the calculator - has anybody else noticed this behavior?15:25
ToraToraToraManaged to fix grub, but still got loads of problems15:25
ForgeAuswow katapult is quicksilver for KDE?15:26
bigbrovarToraToraTora: how were u able to fix grub?15:26
smoooForgeAus: it is a quickaluncher15:27
smoooonly problem is that i can't get it installed15:29
ToraToraTorabigbrovar: I can't remember exactly, but I used liveCD to fix files on hd15:30
bigbrovarToraToraTora: oh ok15:31
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prowerhello :> i'm trying to create a desktop capture in kdenlive (10.04), but when i hit the record button, nothing happens?16:17
ForgeAusare you certain your recording source is your desktop?16:24
adityahello room16:42
seraphim2hello16:47
seraphim2can sombody tell why whats goin on while the last symbol of the login process is shown ?16:48
seraphim2its thera about 30s16:48
seraphim2and why is compositing with nvidia not working ?!16:51
An_Ony_MooseI'm trying to use krita in the GNOME environment and it crashes on startup every time. When I try to report a bug, it asks me to install the debugging symbols. While KPackageKit is doing so, it, too, crashes. Any ideas?17:08
ubuntub17:12
An_Ony_Mooseupdate: fixed, for some reason my .kde folder was chowned to root.17:14
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daniel__I accidently deleted the Trash can icon in Dolphin.  Is there a way to get it back?17:22
daniel__I am running Kubuntu with KDE 317:23
c3lwhat is the kubuntu version of the folder for scripts that are put in ~/ .gnome2/ nautilus-scripts/ in ubuntu?17:24
dhqhey ppl17:30
dhqi upgraded to 10.04 and now i have no sound17:30
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inspire`try alsamixer in the konsole17:31
inspire`smtimes it can get shutdown there17:31
dhqinspire`: did that there nothing :(17:31
dhqi mean no sound17:31
inspire`ouch17:31
inspire`hmm check the mixer in the tray17:32
inspire`and turn up the PCM that is if ur on a laptop17:32
dhqinspire`: alls up17:32
inspire`bummer17:32
floownhello17:33
floownsomeone use nano?17:33
inspire`desk or laptop?17:33
dhqlaptop hda-intel17:33
inspire`yeah i got the same on here17:33
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inspire`works well17:33
dhq:(17:34
dhqwhat do i do17:34
inspire`check in the system setting to have the hda-intel as a preffered instead of the outjack17:34
floownthe js.nanorc from this adresse http://code.google.com/p/nanosyntax/source/browse/trunk/syntax-nanorc/js.nanorc is wrong. I have error when I try to open my javascript with nano...17:34
Guest33345hi everybody17:34
inspire`u can also test them there17:34
dhqinspire`: all set to hda-intel in test there is no sound17:35
Guest33345i have a problem to connect my laptop to lcd tv17:35
inspire`ouch17:35
tarzoohi17:35
dario_hola17:36
Guest33345hola17:36
dario_alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir driver para impresora lexmark X 5150 series?17:36
inspire`that's the best i can help with, not too skilled i just had similar probs17:37
dhqhmmm :(17:37
dhqinspire`: thanks anyways :)17:37
inspire`a reinstall might help, its possible some conflicting sound codecs and such were installed17:38
dhqcant reinstall :(17:38
inspire`you should look into what ppl think about replacing alsa with smtn else17:38
inspire`but that's tricky it can give you some probs17:38
Guest33345hola dario entrá acá http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/17:39
Guest33345fijate si encontrás el driver para la lexmark17:40
Spezihi, i've got a /media/cdrom folder, which is a symlink to /media/cdrom0 .. so every time i put in a cd/dvd, it shows up twice in the new media thing in the taskbar, in places in dolphin etc.. i don'/t know where this /media/cdrom comes from, should i just delete it?17:42
daniel__Is there a way to get the Trash Can back on the Dolphin program?17:48
daniel__Does anyone use Dolphin?17:51
DyrconaRight click on one of the entries, and Choose Add Entry...17:52
Dyrconafor the entry location, put in trash:/17:52
daniel__OKay.  I will try that.17:53
daniel__Not as before but works.  Thank you,17:54
iconmefistodaniel__: how is it not as before?17:55
Dyrconadaniel_: you should be able to choose a trash can icon, too. if you edit the entry.17:55
daniel__It used to change the icon when I had something in the trash.  Now it just shows te icon that doesn't change.  But it still opens the trash bin.17:56
daniel__I am satisfied.17:56
Dyrconahmm. i just removed my trash "place" and re-added it and the icon changes for me when I put something in the trash.18:00
daniel__How did you put it back?18:00
daniel__In Dolphin?18:01
DyrconaI did the Add Entry... Set the location to trash:/ and changed the icon to user-trash under "places"18:01
daniel__Ah.  Okay.18:01
daniel__How do I tell Linux to auto load Amarok for mp3 files when I click on them instead of having to right click and open with?18:02
AhmedBHHi, How do i change theme on KDE @_@ i want that default back but i cant really seem to select that why ?18:02
daniel__System Settings18:03
daniel__Appearance18:03
iconmefistodaniel__: either in systemsettings > advanced tab > file associations, or right-click a mp3, properties, click the spanner icon18:04
AhmedBHdaniel_: Thanks a million18:04
iconmefistodaniel__: put amarok at the top of the list18:04
daniel__Done.18:05
daniel__You're Welcome AhmedBH18:05
daniel__Wonderful.  Amarok is a good program.  My other favorite is VLC.18:06
iconmefistodaniel__: what was the default before you changed it to amarok?18:06
AhmedBHI accidently changed it and then i looked all over and coulnt set to default :) thanks again18:07
malik_amarok is the king of all audio players18:08
daniel__In Windows I use VLC for most audio-video.18:11
slow-motionhi18:12
daniel__Howdy18:12
daniel__Right now I am running two computers.  One Linux one WIndows (Games).  I use LInux for all internet stuff.18:12
AhmedBHDaniel_: How do i set my graphic card to the best graphic but its a shared so i have to use it with VRAM ? or how do i set as best ? that wont really take the CPU to 100%18:13
daniel__Not sure what you mean.  What is the video card, nvidia, ati, other?18:13
daniel__Are you running it on a real system or virtually?18:14
AhmedBHits ATI and its 256MB shared memory18:15
daniel__Sounds like it is onboard graphics.18:15
AhmedBHI dont want it to share it with RAM it should be limited within its memory not the RAM18:15
AhmedBHno not on board18:15
AhmedBHactually an old :)18:15
daniel__Look in System for Synaptic Package Manager.  Run it, enter password, and search for Envy.  Install that, run it and choose the recomended drivers.  See if that works.18:16
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AhmedBHno its not about drivers18:17
AhmedBHeverything works fine18:17
AhmedBHi just wanna set it to a the best setting which shoulnt annoy my processor getting up to 100%18:17
daniel__It could be about the drivers.  Impropper drivers, although wrks fine, might still be causing other issues.18:17
AhmedBHlemme see18:18
daniel__Are you sure it is the video that is doing it?18:18
AhmedBHYeah kinda18:18
AhmedBHBecause it takes about a GB when i use windows718:18
AhmedBH@_@18:18
daniel__7 is a pest.18:18
AhmedBHalsa-tools-gui ?18:19
daniel__what resolution are you using?18:19
AhmedBHits for 17"18:19
AhmedBH1280x102418:19
AhmedBHsomething18:20
daniel__I run Linux at 1024x768 here.18:20
AhmedBHahhhhh18:20
AhmedBH:)18:20
AhmedBHAnd this resolution seriously sucks tho i dont know why18:20
daniel__1280x1024 is okay if the monitor can handle it.18:20
AhmedBHi guess this causes headaches @_@18:20
daniel__try changing the resolution.18:20
AhmedBHWell18:20
AhmedBHOkay18:20
daniel__I used to have plenty of problems til I got this video card.18:21
AhmedBHevery time after a restart18:21
AhmedBHit gets back to18:21
AhmedBH1024x76818:21
AhmedBHTADA18:21
daniel__Need to edit the settings file as root and save for it to stay.18:21
AhmedBHhow do i do that really18:21
AhmedBHi am new here since the LTS released :P18:22
daniel__I run an nvidia geforce 6200 as my video.18:22
daniel__10.04?18:22
AhmedBHyeah18:22
daniel__I am running I believe 9.10 KDE 3 here.18:22
AhmedBHIts 4.218:22
daniel__I don't upgrade because then I lose KDE 3.18:22
AhmedBHOhh18:22
AhmedBHBRB lemme come from Gnome18:23
AhmedBHBack18:24
AhmedBHBut this resolution looks fine at Gnome... Should i use the default ?18:25
daniel__If it works best, I would.18:26
daniel__But ask around.  Others might havve better ideas.18:26
AhmedBHYeah18:27
AhmedBHThanks :)18:27
daniel__You're Welcome18:27
AhmedBHCan you install ubuntu on a Macbook pro ?18:27
AhmedBHWithout using any third party application18:28
AhmedBHBut directly by booting up from  a CD and installing18:28
stoissHi. Is there a build of Empathy IM client for kubuntu ?18:29
stoissit seems its only for gnome18:29
AhmedBHKopete18:29
AhmedBHyeah its for Gnome18:29
stoisstoo bad.. it looks pretty good.18:29
AhmedBHKDE             have          Kopete18:30
AhmedBHhahah18:30
stoissim looking for somthing that has facebook chat so i can save my facebook chatlogs18:30
daniel__You can run Gnome apps and games in Kubuntu and vise-versa.18:30
stoissreally ?18:31
daniel__Yes18:31
stoissi thought they depended on certain packages18:31
daniel__Yes, and they are installed as well.18:31
stoissgreat18:31
Dyrconadaniel_++18:31
AhmedBHdaniel_: Ubuntu can be installed on a macbook pro ? any idea ?18:31
daniel__Yes?18:31
daniel__I have an old iMac but no MacBook.18:31
Dyrconajust agreeing with you.18:32
AhmedBHBut any idea ?18:32
daniel__If the Linux is PowerMac compatible I don't see why not.18:32
DyrconaAhmedBH: I found instructions for installing ubuntu on a macbook pro on the wiki.18:32
daniel__Thank you18:32
daniel__There you go18:32
AhmedBHDyrcona: thats good can i have the link please :)18:33
stoissdaniel__,  i usually say that you can pretty much run linux on a box of matches nowadays18:33
daniel__lol18:33
Dyrconajust google it. it should come up in the first couple of hits.18:33
AhmedBHOKay18:33
AhmedBHThanks18:33
daniel__Here is a good challenge.  Find a LInux that will run on an old 100Mhz computer.  rofl18:33
Dyrconadaniel_: kernel 2.0.36, and userland built from period source.18:34
daniel__This PC is 2Ghz and my Win Games PC is 2.818:34
llutzdaniel__: slackware-2.2, you want the CD?18:34
Barridusdumb question alert:  how do you check disk usage/free in kubuntu-netbook18:34
daniel__I bet I could get something like DSL Linux to work.18:34
metric1983hey I`ve just installed ubuntu, my first linux distro and got a tiny problem just wondered if someone would mind helping, when i type apt-get install vlc i get a couple of lines of message ending am I root?  I`m guessing this means i have to shove my password in, so erm yeah, what do i need to put in and in what order would be nice to know please.18:34
AhmedBHhttp://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro18:35
AhmedBHHave a look18:35
Barridus(or in kubuntu 10.04 of any flavor)18:35
rorkBarridus: with the command `df`18:35
daniel__Do you see the icon for my computer?18:35
DyrconaAhmedBH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook18:35
daniel__I was going to say open storage media and right click on the drive and choose properties.  lol18:36
rorkmetric1983: use `sudo apt-get install vlc` sudo will let you execute the command as root, it will ask for your password18:36
rorkdaniel__: yes, that would work pretty well to see the free space on a device too ^^18:37
daniel__lol18:38
AhmedBHdyrcona: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook6-1/Karmic  is this fine ? :)18:38
AhmedBHThanks by the way18:38
daniel__Morew than one way to skin that kitty.  lol18:38
DyrconaAhmedBH: If you have a MacBook6,1 then it should be.18:38
daniel__Many problems with many solutions.18:38
stoiss_damn this is odd. If i have my firewall enabled i cant connect to freenode irc.. even though i specificly allow port 800118:39
daniel__Anyone want a Mac Quadra 630?  rofl18:39
stoiss_all other IRC servers i can connect to .. just not this one18:39
Barridusrork:  ah, i saw "1-k blocks" when i tried df earlier and thought i was looking at something using different units18:39
AhmedBHDyrcona: Actually i am planning to buy a macbook pro and only only only if i am sure enough that i can run ubuntu on it :)18:40
* Dyrcona has a PowerMac 6100 collecting dust in the attic.18:40
daniel__Wanna send my way.  lol18:40
AhmedBHhhhhhhhhh18:40
AhmedBH* ??whos that18:40
rorkBarridus: hm, on a second look I can see why :) `df -h` might do, type `df --help` to see more options to change the output of df18:41
DyrconaAhmedBH: You probably will be able to, but it may not go smoothly the first try.18:41
AhmedBHDyrcona:  Oh no..... I like the hardware and it should be working just fine.. i would rather be on Gnome tho, Will it be fine ?18:42
DyrconaAhmedBH: There are no warranties. :)18:42
AhmedBHDyrcona:  On what exactly huh @_@18:43
daniel__MacOS 7.1 to 9.1  I bet anything 8 and over will be too slow on that beast.  lol18:43
AhmedBH:O18:43
Barridusrork, my thanks18:43
rorkBarridus: you're welcome :)18:43
Dyrconadaniel_: The PowerMac 6100 has MkLinux installed, though it has not been updated in 7+ years.18:44
daniel__lol18:44
daniel__Sounds like a fun machine to play with.18:44
daniel__I still fiddle around with a Mac Quadra 63018:44
DyrconaUsed to take a week or so to compile all of KDE 2.0 from source.18:44
daniel__Yeah, I am sure of that @ 60Mhz18:45
Dyrconamy fiddling around machine is a "Grape" iMac DV. I'm going to try to get OpenBSD for PPC running on it when I'm on vacation.18:46
AhmedBHdaniel_: The macbook pro is 2.66Ghz and goes upto 3.33 i mean how really ! when the hardware is something less then its sayin as boostup18:47
daniel__I have a green iMac around here.  Running Mac OS 8 I believe.18:48
daniel__8 or 918:48
daniel__Slow machine though for it.18:48
Dyrconathe grape has Tiger on it for now.18:48
AhmedBH918:49
daniel__The Windows PC I found out is MacOS native.  It can run it natively.  When I get a new drive for it I will give it a try.  Mayb dual boot Win/MacOS.18:49
daniel__I am bold.  lol18:50
DyrconaLast time I tried dual booting on my MacBook, I hosed the partition table.18:51
daniel__I am using two separate drives.18:52
DyrconaAhmedBH: I'm probably the wrong person to be giving advice on installing on a MacBook. :)18:52
daniel__For the first try I will keep the Windows HD out of site.18:52
AhmedBHumm okay :) no problem18:53
tdnHow can I adjust the color temperature on my monitor?18:59
freefraghello19:06
Guillem__Is it really worthy, the kde sc 4.4?19:09
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sjrWhat is a good wireless manager for Kubuntu, the default one sucks, and I was using nm-applet but it's weird too20:32
chiffrewhats the problem with the integrated wireless-manager?20:34
sjrit's flakey20:34
sjrit ignores requests20:34
sjrwhen I tell it to create an ad hoc network it doesn't just sits there dopey like a 4 year old looking at a pin wheel.20:34
chiffrek - never tried to create an adhoc network with kde...20:38
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capreaI wanted to add a shortcut to my taskbar, like q quicklaunch but I seem to be only able to add widgets21:26
goodcooprwhat would be the easiest way to install kubuntu directly to a hard disk? i have an old laptop that won't properly boot from USB, yet doesn't have an optical21:27
caprearemove the hard disk and hook it up to some other machine21:28
goodcoopryes, i can do that easily21:28
goodcooprwhat do i do with the hard disk?21:28
capreaI dont undertsand, you remove it and put it in anotehr amchine and then install the OS21:29
goodcoopron the incompatible machine?21:29
goodcoopri mean on the other machine?21:29
capreayeah21:29
goodcooprit's got very different hardware21:29
capreaI guess ubuntu detects the hardward and installs drivers on install21:30
capreaso you could just install it anyways, and then later manually reconfigure once you put the HD in the original machine21:30
goodcoopri'd assume... isn't there a way to put just the installation files directly onto the hard disk? or would the installer delete the install files during install21:30
capreathere might be, but I dont know it21:31
capreasome BIOS allow to boot from network21:31
goodcooprthis may allow that, but then i'd have to set up PXE server and etc21:31
capreaim out of ideas21:33
goodcoopri put crunchbang on one of these once, but i forgot how i did it, lol21:33
goodcoopri think i just tried every USB configuration i could think of to get it to boot, it was really not an optimal way to install21:33
goodcoopri was hoping installing from HD would be easier21:34
capreasomeone probably knows, but its not me21:34
m_tadeuhow can I check the files that a package installs?21:38
DarthFrogm_tadeu: What do you mean by check?21:39
m_tadeuDarthFrog: list all files installed by a certain package21:40
DarthFrogm_tadeu: System Settings/Add & Remove Software/Software Management.  Search for the installed package, right-click on it and click on File List.21:41
LjLm_tadeu: dpkg -L packagename21:41
m_tadeuDarthFrog: I prefer using the command line21:42
m_tadeuLjL: thanx :)21:42
DarthFrogm_tadeu: As do I. :-)21:42
m_tadeuhehe thanx guys21:42
DarthFrogm_tadeu: Here's one you might find useful:  alias lspkg="dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | sort | less"21:43
m_tadeuniceeee :)21:45
DarthFrogI find it very handy, especially in the usage: lspkg | grep <name>21:46
m_tadeuyup..simple listing21:47
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leonardociao a tutti21:58
miazgatorhow do I make mouse side buttons work as back/forward in Konqueror and Dolphin?22:00
miazgatorI miss that from Gnome22:00
miazgatoranybody here?22:03
martxelhi22:03
miazgatorhi22:04
martxelI've just installed buntu 10.04 and I'm having trouble getting the sound to work22:04
martxel*kubuntu22:04
chxHi. I am using Lucid and half of my icons are gone from the tray. So is the KDE menu. I can click them. They work. But they are not shown.22:05
martxelI have tried configuring the mixer, the volumes, and i think they are ok22:05
martxelI don't know what else to do22:05
miazgatorchx you can expand the tray with a triangle button22:06
BluesKajmartxel, open a terminal and type alsamixer , make sure the ctrls are are turned up to 75% or so , and take the M out of any ctrls  (Unmute)22:07
chxmiazgator: no, no, it's not expansion, there are two columns of tray icons, the right half is invisible.  http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/67668/screenshot_005_Wu52G5.png see how the menu icon is missing on the top? and the right half of icons are missing but if i click where the mixer is it works22:08
chxmiazgator: the mixer is right besides the language switcher.22:09
chxmiazgator: it's just inviisble.22:09
NoRedemptiongn822:09
martxelBluesKaj: I have tried that22:10
martxeland still doesn't work22:10
miazgatoranybody know how do I make side mouse buttons to work as back/forward in Konqueror and Dolphin?22:10
martxelI don't really understand, I installed yesterday on my dell laptot, which has the same audio device as this one and it works22:11
chxhm restarting plasma-desktop solved it22:11
BluesKajmartxel, look in system settings / mediaand set your soundcard to default22:11
chxis kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 1s && plasma-desktop the right way to restart plasma?22:11
martxelBluesKaj: done, but still no sound22:13
yaroslavЄ хто з України?22:17
martxelBluesKaj: any other idea?22:20
BluesKajmartxel, pulseaudio installed?22:22
martxelBluesKaj: no22:23
martxelshould I?22:23
BluesKajmartxel, give me a minute , gonna look22:26
BluesKajmartxel, lspci | grep audio  , need to know your soundcard22:32
martxelBluesKaj: there -> http://pastebin.com/Br4QtiEF22:36
BluesKajmartxel, or : cat /proc/asound/cards , that command should show the card22:36
martxelyou'll see the soundcard on my dell computer is the same that I have on my vaio22:36
martxeland sound works well on dell and no sound on vaio22:37
BluesKaj!intelhda |martxel22:38
ubottumartxel: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto22:38
martxelok, let's see22:38
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martxelubottu: tried everything in there and stille no sound23:02
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:02
martxel:/23:03
martxeloh23:03
martxeli see23:03
martxelxD23:03
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