=== ljl is now known as LjL === mike_ is now known as Guest35858 [00:46] need some help... when ever i minimize something it totaly dissapears from the taskbar... i have to restart the app [00:46] any help? [00:47] i just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking. mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone. is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset? [00:54] .. [00:54] marloshouse: maybe if you delete your account, and make a new one :) [00:56] oey [00:56] i deleted ~/.kde and it didn't clear anything up [00:57] maybe i'll make a new account and see what difference that makes :) [00:57] heh, ok === arkaitz is now known as wikiiiii [01:36] hi [01:37] allo [01:38] Ohhh yeah [01:39] does any1 experience some memory leak in kde? [01:40] After like working for 8 hours I loose 1G of memory. That is after loging out and logging back in to kde [01:40] so no any app is running [01:40] my bare kde desktop [01:40] you sure its not system cache? [01:40] yes [01:40] the calculation is after used - cache [01:41] and top reports about 700M total RSS usage [01:41] acutaly free reports 1.4 G usage [01:42] maybe is just cached memory [01:43] maybe the memory fairy came and took it away ;p [01:43] interesting though [01:43] hehe [01:43] well [01:44] how do you remove the "Auto eth0" thing from the network manager? [01:44] or at least set another one to default? [01:44] from what I can tell is, he really dunnos if memory is actually gone, he's just assessing what the memory apps are reporting [01:45] I hate the stupid knetworkmanager [01:45] how do you disconnect from a wireless connection? [01:45] Typos_King: thats what the memory fairy does [01:45] ;p [01:46] hehe [01:46] hmm.. it really is stupid [01:48] not possible to remove autho eth0 from knetwork manager? [01:48] gonssal: did you try opening "manage connections"? [01:49] its not here [01:49] there [01:49] and you cant set another one for default [01:49] even if i ask it to connect automatically to a created connection, it still connects to auto eth0 on start [01:50] hmm.. yeah, I dont see any either [01:50] damn, knetworkmanager is the only (for now) thing I hate about kde.. [01:51] algun mexicano ????????????? [01:53] progre55: ahe... to the risk of sounding redundant, I'd say, ditch knetworkmanager and install -> network-manager-gnome [01:54] as far as using that one, you just right-click it and click on 'enable wireless' [01:55] Typos_King: so, have you been using the gnome nmanager? [01:55] yes [01:56] is what I'm using right now :) [01:56] actually, I have gnome+kde, so I do have network-manager-gnome installed.. [01:56] so I just need to remove knetworkmanager from startup and replace it with the gnome one.. [01:56] progre55: underwear gnomes? [01:56] I've used in the paste knetworkmanager, then I check around for others, as it didn't seem great, the reviews and as I tested, is gnome's is really a much better app [01:57] Ampersand: funny [01:57] it's network manager for that matter, otherwise I use most kde apps, thus I run kde :) [01:57] Typos_King: well, I'll switch to the gnome nm, too.. [01:58] well [01:58] to run it, if it's installed already, just run 'nm-applet' [01:58] it'll show up in the tray [01:59] yeah I know [01:59] but I want to add it to startup [01:59] is it okay if I just add it to system-settings > advanced > auto-start? [02:00] and how to remove knetworkmanager from startup w/o uninstalling it? [02:01] Typos_King: ^^ [02:03] arright, I'm off [02:06] yes [02:06] I was going to say that :) [02:06] I think knetworkmanager has an option in it, to run at startup [02:07] Eiigh have gas. [02:11] wb hceylan [02:11] hi there, still 1.5G [02:12] after logging into gnome???? [02:12] As the last resort I will do init 1 and check the memory usage when I am in runlevel 1 [02:12] well do that and see [02:12] this will make sure no gui stuff is running [02:12] but it isnt kde :) [02:12] it could be DX [02:12] X [02:12] and only left with basic processes like dbus, kernel [02:12] OK going off again... [02:13] X would have more mem holes than a wedge of swiss cheese [02:20] Ampersand: I am back [02:20] ok [02:20] ill be there in a sec [02:20] im in mysql hell right now [02:21] when I did init 1 I was using only 4 processes that reports memory usage not 0 [02:21] but still 1.5G usage [02:21] Ampersand: I can help you if you like with mysql [02:21] Ampersand: I am a mysql expert ;) [02:21] thats ok.. i gots it :) [02:21] thanks tho [02:21] So the problem is definitely a leak in the kernel I believe [02:22] AFAIK, if the leak was in a process, when the process dies, the memory is totally reclaimed by the kernel [02:23] So if it is not reclamed after everything is shut off (err except the kernel), probably the problem relies in Linus's domain :) [02:24] I should create a bugzilla with Kubuntu... [02:24] Ampersand: thanks for the help man [02:25] Ampersand: have a nice one... [02:25] a leak in the kernel is odd [02:25] what happend? [02:25] 4 processes [02:25] 1.5G sounds like youve been hacked [02:25] like a root kitted kernel [02:30] I upgraded kubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04, and then, Konsole shortcut (hotkey) doesn't work, (I set it Meta+K) How can I solve it? [02:46] hi [02:47] I have a problem, I've just logged into kde for the first time but I can't see the menu or e [02:48] funcrush: systemsettings > input actions [02:49] iconmefisto: yup.. [02:49] I updated kubuntu 10.04 yesterday and now my quick launch opens konqueror instead of dolphin... how can I fix this? There was no choice of FM in the settings. [02:49] im using the 10.04 live cd trying to install kubuntu and when it gets to the disk partition it shows a raid array but i do not have one setup just 2 1tb drives, one which has another distro on it. [02:49] any idea if there is a boot option not to load raid? [02:50] what_if: look in systemsettings > default applications [02:51] anyone know of a music manager for KDE other then amarok? [02:51] iconmefisto: thank you I found it!!! [02:51] iconmefisto: tyvm... that was it. [02:53] so no one know of a differnt music manager? hhmmm [02:53] Lord_Rahl: juk [02:54] Lord_Rahl: minirok [02:55] iconmefisto: thanks I will check them out [03:04] After installing packages with apt-get or dpkg, entries appear in the start menu, but they don't show up on typing into the search field of the menu. Is there a manual way of getting the search function to update? (I've disabled strigi/nepomuk, if that matters). [03:08] hi, help, I wanted to give a look at xfce, it installed splash screen, modified /boot/grub directory, how can I fix this ? [03:09] and the dir is full of .mod files [03:14] ch3mtail: kbuildsycoca (in konsole) [03:15] Ah, thanks. [03:15] volty: you want to change the boot splash back to the kubuntu one? [03:16] ch3mtail: actually it's kbuildsycoca4, but it probably does the same without the 4 [03:17] Yeah, I just saw that kbuildsycoca was trying to call dcop and figured it belonged to KDE3 [03:17] iconmefisto: yes, but also to roll back changes it did in the grub directory, it made everything ubuntu [03:18] iconmefisto: and how it did that? I didn't gave sudo password [03:18] volty: made what ubuntu? [03:18] iconmefisto: menus [03:18] sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth to choose the boot splash [03:18] no menu.lst but grub.cfg, not kubuntu but ubuntu [03:19] then sudo update-grub [03:19] my uname -a now says: Linux zat 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [03:19] volty: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst [03:19] iconmefisto: ah, thx [03:20] !grub2 [03:20] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [03:21] volty: sorry, got that wrong. after sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, sudo update-initramfs [03:23] iconmefisto: thx, got it. Another question: they (xfce) shouln't do it (changing splash screen or whatever not requested) ? [03:24] volty: boot splash gets changed when you install a *-desktop package [03:24] volty: maybe file a bug if you think it shouldn't do that [03:25] iconmefisto: i'll do that, thx :) [03:33] why is my steam engine not working [03:33] i was told kubuntu was supposed to come with one [03:33] needs coal? [03:33] yes [03:33] and a few vacuum tubes [03:33] for the crew cabins tv [03:37] * Ampersand gives Barridus a trophy [03:38] :O [03:39] * Barridus bows [03:39] thank you, thank you all [03:39] * Ampersand appaulds [03:39] WTG!! [03:39] congrats! [03:41] hi phoenix__ [03:41] hello Ampersand [03:41] did you know my avatar is an ampersand [03:42] Ampersand: oh [03:42] phoenix__: did you know you are on irc? [03:43] Ampersand: you sound like a bot [03:43] phoenix__: oh. [03:43] phoenix__: you are junior === maco is now known as maco2 === maco2 is now known as maco === islington_ is now known as islington === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === diego is now known as Guest49732 [04:26] hola [04:43] hola coma estas espaniol? [04:45] Al agua sobre casi todo tipo de materiales matiéres. [04:46] Actually, I'm just reading stuff off the label of my permanent marker, but it sounds impressive unless you actually understand it. [04:47] well [04:47] to the water! [04:47] on allmost all types of materials [04:48] Plasma is tricky, but doable. [04:52] nah.. plama just makes you implement for the most part your own paint event === ross is now known as Guest55199 [04:59] Hi. Ran out of disk space, need to empty trash can. Where is KDE4 trash directory located? Already checked "~/Trash" and "~/.kde/share/apps/trash" etc. Thx for urgently needed help. [04:59] heh === desu_ is now known as desu [05:01] kwtm: I think it's ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ these days [05:03] kwtm: If you have admin access you could try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' (to remove installed packages that are no longer required by anything on the system) and 'sudo apt-get autoclean' (to remove caches of downloaded packages that have been installed (it will not uninstall the packages)). [05:03] Might clear a lot of space, all depending. [05:03] tem algue ae? [05:03] ch3mtail: Thx for responding. I just checked it. Directory is emjpty [05:04] tem alguem q fale português? [05:04] ch3mtail: I used "du -s" on a parent directory, and it's not .local/share/Trash. [05:04] no thank you kwtm [05:04] kwtm: Don't take my word for it, I just had a quick look around in my home folder and that was the only trash folder I found [05:05] ch3mtail: Thanks for suggestgion of deleting packages. However, I have 4 GB of files in 4 files that are no longer necessary, and I really don't want to have to autoclean and beg and plead (my computer) to scrape up that much free space when I know I should have over 4GB free. [05:05] Ah, I see :) [05:05] Ampersand: No thank you? I didn't offer anything... :P [05:06] He's weird. [05:06] Thx. Will look for other ways. Will sleep now (feeling ill). Thx for straightforward help without RTFM. Bye! [05:07] kwtm: i was thanking you for no reason :) [05:07] I've been wondering about the trash folder myself at times, even though I don't use it, but so far the only viable candidates are ~/.Trash and the aforementioned ~/.local/share/Trash :/ [05:20] hi all people :D [05:20] mi first msg :D === ussher is now known as ussher_ [05:27] i just upgraded to ubuntu 10 and kde has lost all menus and mouse clicking. mouse movement still works, but everything else is gone. is there a file/folder i can delete to get everything to reset? [05:28] i don't knowhow to use this :P [05:28] byeeeee === jacostach is now known as jacostach_ [05:31] alquien q hable español ? [05:33] * jacostach_ Hola a todos :D === Nakkel_ is now known as Nakkel [06:08] i have a problem with audio: when i start ubuntu, audio is mute [06:09] Did you install the right drivers? [06:11] i have this device: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) === flavio is now known as Guest38381 === shidi is now known as SHiDi === christian is now known as Guest55193 === Guest55193 is now known as Dux [06:46] the vga port doesn't work in my netbook (kubuntu netbook remix 10.04 installed) :( [06:46] ?? [06:58] Dux normally theres a key combo to switch to it if you didn't alredy know [06:58] (something like Fn + F3 or so depending on the brand) [06:59] some can switch between modes like LCD, VGA, VGA + LCD... [07:00] also if the hardware of the port is damaged its not a kubuntu issue... [07:00] i know it, (alt f5); usually it works in ubuntu netbook remix [07:00] another thing to look at is if X needs a different config for that... [07:00] but doesn't work in kubuntu :( [07:00] it is plausible that its a bug in kubuntu... [07:01] alt? really? thats odd [07:01] sorry.. fn+f5 [07:02] yeah sounds lots more likely :) [07:03] wow adobe flex is open-source? [07:03] (as opposed to foss perhaps) [07:17] hi all === SandGorgon_ is now known as SandGorgon [07:53] Hi Ummm is anyone having problems with Google Chrome not loading webpages on kubuntu 10.04? === ubuntu is now known as anyday [07:57] Anyone? [08:08] Hi Ummm is anyone having problems with Google Chrome not loading webpages on kubuntu 10.04? [08:59] This is a silly question but.... in need to find out what version of kubuntu 10.04 im running x86 or x64.. How might i do this? [09:00] dpkg --print-architecture [09:00] amd64 [09:00] Thank you :D [09:00] Tada~ [09:00] I honestly could not remember [09:01] Sounds stupid [09:02] anyone have any ideas why the kubuntu installer cant see my 2 sata drives? they show up as an array but there are not setup as raid [09:18] Where does lucid store it's default swappiness? /etc/sysctl.conf doesnt seem to mention it.... [09:28] hello everyone [09:29] i like to configure alsa to get bass redirected can anyone help me [09:53] Hello. Does anyone know why doesn't start the kubuntu 10.04 with the 2.6.32-22-generic version? The system loads, the graphical interface aren't displayed, only the tty2 console surface. I can use the system only with the 2.6.32-21-generic version. [10:23] I need to downgrade my jdk and jre from 6 to 5, but v5 isn't in the repository. Any ideas from which repository I could find it? [10:28] can i install kde 3.5 on kubuntu 10.04? [10:32] Fleck: see http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ [10:32] tsimpson thank you! :) [10:32] and note that KDE 3.5.x is completely unsupported, both by Kubuntu and KDE [10:32] so it's at your own risk etc [10:37] tsimpson well, i would like to use kde 4, but i am tired of lags, slowdowns etc... [10:38] writing code in kwrite... simple thing, but moving with page down/up make 100% cpu usage lags so badly [10:38] :( [10:38] sick of this [10:39] trying to install recomended nvidia drivers - getting error: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid. [10:41] strumica === ljl is now known as LjL [12:32] hi alle [12:36] hi guys, running 10.04 LTS, this is the second time this has happened in the last few weeks. The mouse and keyboard have locked up but the machine is still running [12:37] I cannot move the mouse, the cursor stays still, the keyboard doesn't do anything (ctrl-alt-f1 for instance doesn't bring up the console, and num-lock or caps lock don't go on) [12:37] hi. I have a different problem: I removed the system tray, then reinserted it onto another panel I created. But it's missing that "USB"-like icon that tells me when some media has been inserted (e.g. DVD or SD card). How can I get it back? [12:37] the machine is still working, I can hear streaming radio from firefox playing, and until the powersaving just kicked in, I cold see cursor flashing and animations running [12:37] JediMaster-: Hmm, sounds like you're worse off than I am. Might be a hardware problem overall... I trust that everything was fine before you upgraded to 10.04? [12:38] I'm sshed into the machine from my laptop, what can I do to get the keyboard/mouse back? [12:38] kwtm, I upgraded weeks ago, and yeah, not had this problem before [12:38] JediMaster-: So, you can't use the KDE GUI, but you have the bash shell from a remote terminal, correct? [12:38] there's nothing unusual in /var/log/syslog at the time it happened [12:38] yes [12:39] I also can't get to tty1 console with ctrl-alt-f1 [12:39] JediMaster-: Does Ctrl-Shift-F1 let you switch to another terminal? (Or was it Ctrl-Alt-F1? Can't rmemeber). [12:39] ctrl-alt-f1 [12:39] no [12:40] there is still power to both the keyboard and mouse (lights are on) [12:40] JediMaster-: I had similar problems but the entire GUI went away, when I tried playing BZflag (which hogs the screen graphics, and may be interfering with compositing). [12:40] both are usb [12:40] kwtm, no, it's not that as I could see animations still working correctly [12:40] it's just like the keyboard/mouse have been disconnected [12:40] JediMaster-: Oh, so it could conceivably be a USB problem. Do you want to try VNC'ing into the machine GUI or is that too complicated? [12:40] speaking of which, going to pull them out/back in [12:40] JediMaster-: SImple thought: remove, then reconnect peripherals? === kev is now known as Lon3sword [12:41] JediMaster-: Your thought was quicker than mine. :) [12:41] read above [12:41] =) [12:41] JediMaster-: Also try connecting peripherals to other machine, verify that they still work (just to eliminate one unlikely but easily eliminated possibility) [12:41] ok, that didn't work [12:42] trying the mouse on this laptop.... [12:42] I can sort of guide you through getting VNC set up on your semi-crashed machine and see if you can get into the GUI from the remote machine. [12:42] Is it that you want to diagnose the problem, or you have data to save from this particular GUI session that you don't want to destroy? [12:42] mouse works on here [12:42] can't get into gui from remote machine [12:42] If you just want to diagnose the problem, I don't know what it means to have VNC working so you might as well reboot or something. [12:43] data is mostly ok, would like to diagnose it [12:43] JediMaster-: Have you already tried VNC from remote machine? [12:43] don't have vnc server installed/running [12:43] want to know how? I can do it through text terminal (sudo apt-get install x11vnc, then run "x11vnc") and connect via KDE Krdc. [12:44] how do you get x11vnc to connect to the running X via ssh? [12:44] Ah, that is the key, little one! (imagine a wizened old voice here. :) ) [12:44] SSh into the machine, and "sudo apt-get install x11vnc". Then type "export DISPLAY=:0". [12:45] think it's automatically picked the display [12:45] yeah know how to install it =P [12:45] That last line is key, which lets the newly installed x11vnc get into your currently running session. [12:45] Then type x11vnc, and that's it. [12:45] didn't need to export the display, it autodetected it [12:45] On better days, you should actually tunnel the VNC connection through SSh, but today just to eliminate complications, just do a straight connection. [12:46] ok, I'm in [12:46] Once you have run "x11vnc" on server and it's waiting for a connection, you can use the built-in "Krdc" (K remote desktop connection) of KDE, or you can install tightvncviewer or something,. [12:46] JediMaster-: Is the GUI responding? [12:46] screen has come out of power saving [12:46] yes [12:46] only via VNC [12:46] no keyboard/mouse [12:47] (works via vnc) [12:47] Okay, so we know it's a USB screwup then. As I suspected, it's probably some hardware thing. Hopefully they'll have a fix but I'm not sure how else I can help you here. [12:47] RDP is a better protocol than VNC tho isn't it? [12:47] Say, you know how to get that "usb icon" thing in KDE? [12:48] ForgeAus: Possibly, but I am more familiar with VNC and the software author has been very responsive in answering questions. [12:48] Aloha!, is there any known reason why kmail cant sent e-mails anymore, i getting always the same error [12:48] (unfortunately xRDP runs via VNC however ... ) [12:48] I even gave the author of x11vnc a $30 donation, twice, because it was such good software. [12:48] thomasfuston: Yes! I know how to solve your problem (short term)l. [12:49] says no devices plugged in, but don't think it shows the mouse/keyboard normally [12:49] thomasfuston: Or at least I get a similar problem. Seems to be when you have kmail open, then it goes into suspend to RAM (possibly to disk, too) [12:49] JediMaster-: Can you do me a favour to help with my problem? That "no devices plugged in" --what is the name of that widget? I need a name to google to figure out how to put it back on my control panel. [12:50] thomasfuston: Could you please do this: "ps -ef [12:50] kwtm: na always tells me something wrong with the address rejected by server, but its impossible couse if i send it from webmail it works 100% so the mistake have to be in kmail [12:50] thomasfuston: Could you please do this: "ps -ef | grep kmail" in a terminal? [12:51] thomasfuston: It could be in Kmail or other parts of the KDE system... your problem may be a different one, but I'll just check to see if it's mine. Go ahead with the ps -ef | grep kmail [12:51] kwtm, Device Notifier [12:51] kwtm: thomas 3837 1552 1 13:49 pts/2 00:00:00 grep --color=auto kmail [12:51] JediMaster-: Thank you! Will start googling. I tell ya, this switch from KDE3 to KDE4 has me tearing my hair out. [12:51] np [12:52] thomasfuston: If there's only one line, then it's not my problem. You may want to go to Kmail > Tools > Configure Kmail > Accounts > Sending > check what the server supports (if that button's still there). I had problems where I set it to some level of encryption, and then it worked, then it didn't work later, then I had to set it to no encryption, then it failed again but worked when I turned encryption back on. [12:53] kwtm: thx so far, i will try it, scary problem, if i not get it working i have to switch to thunderbird or something [12:54] JediMaster-: It worked! I was able to add Device Notifier! Thanks. [12:55] thomasfuston: Yeah, kmail is a very refined program that suddenly astonishes you with how very crappy a small portion of it is, and you say, "They haven't fixed THAT yet???" [12:57] Oh, anyone: how do I make the panel at the bottom of the screen disappear for a while? There are no longer those "hide panel" buttons that slide the panel out of sight when you want more space on the screen. [12:57] autohide? [12:58] click panel tool box button next to the clock on the right, then "more settings" then auto-hide [13:00] meh, still no mouse/keyboard [13:00] checking X11 log [13:01] or rather Xorg.0.log [13:02] hello, it is my first time to use linux [13:02] it feel so cool [13:03] king, welcome linux virgin! [13:03] thank you [13:05] perhaps padawan might have been a better term to use... [13:06] Welcome to Linux, king. Now is a good time to use Kubuntu since this release is supposed to be much higher quality than the previous few. Don't give up if you encounter problems. Google or come here to this channel. [13:06] and it's my first time approach irc. [13:07] ForgeAus, nah, there are more jokes you can make with virgin =) [13:07] lol JediMaster- [13:07] JediMaster-: maybe just not in this channel, remember, support only [13:07] thank you. i will pay more attention to linux [13:08] kwtm I agree, this release is much higher quality... and well presented, except that its lacking some branding touches... [13:08] Mamarok_, you'll notice how restrained I was [13:09] * JediMaster- still has a lack of keyboard/mouse operation [13:09] i am from chinese. and my english is so poor [13:09] Hey, Mamarok_ is here. Know how to make the panel (at bottom of screen in Kubuntu) disappear on command? (I don't want to use autohide since most of the time I still want the panel present.) There used to be buttons with triangles in KDE3 that would slide the panel off the screen. [13:09] king, you are doing fine, we understand you =) [13:10] kwtm: hm, not really, no, I use autohide [13:10] In KDE4 you can't just drag a panel icon around from a panel to another to put it somewhere else. Not sure why not since it would make things so much easier, [13:10] Mamarok_: Thx anyway. [13:11] kwtm: those are not icons, those are most of the time widgets, that's why [13:11] ANd I don't know how to make the panel automatically expand to take up more room when I put more widgets in, or shrink when there are fewer. [13:12] Mamarok_: I'm not sure I understand. Why should they not be draggable if they are widgets? (Sorry, "icon" was the wrong terminology, I guess.) [13:12] kwtm: hm, I never tried, but of course it would only work in the panel edit mode anymway [13:13] should I report this as a bug? I have no debug to report about the keyboard/mouse though, nothing obvious in the logs [13:13] thank you [13:13] and since I only use one panel, I never faced that, I use widgets on the desktop [13:13] JediMaster-: Yeah, if you don't mind, just so other people with the same thing won't think it's something isolated. Not sure if you'd get a fix, though... [13:15] what is this, a "kubuntu" bug, or kde or xorg? [13:15] JediMaster-: what bug? [13:15] mouse and keyboard completely frozen up at the same time [13:15] neither.. [13:16] but can VNC in the machine remotely without any problems [13:16] JediMaster-: likely the graphic driver [13:16] what graphic card do you have? [13:16] NVidia GTX 260 [13:16] and which driver? [13:16] nvidia-current [13:16] Toldja it was hardware related.... [13:16] I don't know much about Nvidia, but isn't there a nouveau driver? [13:17] I doubt this is graphics related [13:17] I can see the mouse moving when I move it on vnc [13:17] I can see it moving on the real monitor [13:17] num-lock, caps-lock etc don't work on the keyboard [13:17] I had that mouse/keyboard freeze numerous times in earlier versions with my ATI driver, now it's gone with the newset radeon ones [13:17] weird [13:18] only with compositing activated though [13:18] is it a USB keyboard? could also be udev [13:18] yes [13:18] both mouse and keyboard are usb [13:18] connected directly or over a hub? [13:18] directly [13:19] I've tried unplugging them and putting them back in, no luck [13:19] I know there are usb problems with udev, but mostly with hubs, still, could be a problem [13:19] JediMaster-: what about trying the plug in/out several times? [13:20] Howdy [13:20] a friend of mine had to do it up to 5 times till it worked [13:20] hi BluesKaj === JulienBu is now known as JulienBussi [13:20] weird, shouldn't I see something in syslog when plugging in the keyboard? [13:20] JediMaster-: not sure [13:20] hi Mamarok_ [13:20] since udev handles that [13:21] someone in #kde suggested it was hal not running [13:21] JediMaster-: check the systemSettings -> Advanced tab -> Hardware you can see immediately if it's running or not [13:22] gotta fix grub again, just installeled W7 , so does it stillworkfrom the live cd ? [13:23] Mamarok_, I can see hald running, how do you know if it's running, would that tab not come up at all if not? [13:23] as it looks normal [13:23] JediMaster-: if you see the HAL-Power entry in there, then it is up [13:23] well, I guess I'll find out soon enuff [13:24] Mamarok_, yup, it's there [13:24] soit's not HAL or Solid [13:24] hello :> i just installed kubuntu 10.04...i added a new widget to the desktop (the cpu monitor), i'm trying to resize it but every time i'm done it snaps back to its original size? other widgets appear to do this also [13:24] prower: how do you resize it? [13:25] there is a resize button in the side bar that only appears when you hover over the widget, first button on top [13:25] Mamarok_: Well, you know how that context menu slides out from under a widget and there's an option to stretch its size in there? That's what I've been using [13:25] yes, that should work [13:25] it certainly works here [13:25]