poolie | spm, there's some russian spam in https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/13796 | 00:20 |
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poolie | i guess i should file a question? | 00:20 |
spm | poolie: questions, even more so than bugs; yes. that's a hand crafted sql task. | 00:23 |
poolie | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/111646 fwiw | 00:24 |
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cody-somerville | "This change is completely inert when not using XYZ" doesn't sound quite right at this hour. I have a feeling I'm actually looking to use a different, more appropriate word but can't think of it at the moment. | 06:13 |
lifeless | A better word than is? Try etre. | 06:14 |
cody-somerville | lol | 06:14 |
cody-somerville | lifeless, was referring to 'inert'. :P | 06:14 |
lifeless | You have a double negative | 06:16 |
lifeless | I suggest a single positive. | 06:16 |
cody-somerville | plus, etre is the verb 'to be'. I think you meant to recommend 'est'. :P | 06:16 |
lifeless | "This change only takes effect when using XYZ." | 06:16 |
lifeless | same word :) | 06:17 |
lifeless | you need more practice at conjugation ;) | 06:17 |
cody-somerville | conjug... | 06:17 |
* cody-somerville was going to say conjugation is important :P | 06:18 | |
lifeless | http://www.wordreference.com/conj/FRverbs.asp?v=etre | 06:18 |
* cody-somerville doesn't dispute his French could use a lot of work in many areas. | 06:20 | |
cody-somerville | lifeless, anyhow, thanks. :) | 06:20 |
lifeless | de nada | 06:20 |
adeuring | good morning | 08:15 |
spm | noodles775: ta. I'm often not quite sure which sub group a bug belongs to; when it doubt, let you lot figure it out. :-) | 08:20 |
noodles775 | spm: no probs. | 08:20 |
mrevell | Morning | 08:58 |
lifeless | can Storm handle sets ? We have a comment about SQLObject failing on them in sqlbase.py | 10:17 |
lifeless | and a workaround we could proably delete now | 10:17 |
deryck | Morning, all. | 11:01 |
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deryck | BjornT, ping | 13:22 |
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BjornT | hi deryck | 13:40 |
deryck | BjornT, hi. I'm starting work on bug 418659 and you have some comments there about your previous work on this... | 13:41 |
mup | Bug #418659: Reporting duplicate bugs leads to receiving notifications for every duplicate of the original bug <ubuntu-qa> <Launchpad Bugs:In Progress by deryck> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/418659> | 13:41 |
deryck | BjornT, and I'm looking at your work in: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjornt/launchpad/bug-46237/+merge/8886 | 13:41 |
deryck | And I wonder if I'm reading your intent right.... | 13:42 |
deryck | BjornT, was your work to ensure that Bug A subscribers are *not* notified when Bug B is marked a dupe? Or that Only Bug A subscribers are notified when Bug C is marked a dupe and Bug B subscribers via dupe are not notified about bug C? | 13:42 |
deryck | if that makes sense :-) | 13:43 |
BjornT | deryck: i think some clarification is needed :) in my example Bug B was the master bug | 13:44 |
BjornT | deryck: might be easier if we take real example, e.g. bug 46237, which has a few duplicates | 13:46 |
mup | Bug #46237: fine-tune delivery of duplicate notification mails <email> <Launchpad Bugs:Fix Released by bjornt> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/46237> | 13:46 |
deryck | yeah, good idea. | 13:46 |
deryck | BjornT, So when Bug #91212 was marked a dupe of that bug, should direct subscribers to bug 46237 be notified of this? | 13:47 |
mup | Bug #91212: people subscribed to bugs that are duplicates shouldn't receive notifications of new duplicates to the master bug <email> <Launchpad Bugs:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/91212> | 13:47 |
mup | Bug #46237: fine-tune delivery of duplicate notification mails <email> <Launchpad Bugs:Fix Released by bjornt> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/46237> | 13:47 |
BjornT | deryck: no. only the ones that are subscribed to bug #91212 should be notified about it. | 13:48 |
mup | Bug #91212: people subscribed to bugs that are duplicates shouldn't receive notifications of new duplicates to the master bug <email> <Launchpad Bugs:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/91212> | 13:48 |
deryck | BjornT, ok. Which should cover the second case of subscribers to 91212 being notified when the master add yet another bug marked as a dupe of it. right? | 13:49 |
deryck | s/add/had/ | 13:49 |
BjornT | deryck: right | 13:50 |
deryck | BjornT, and people were generally in agreement that direct subscribers on the master do not want to know via email about dupes being added? | 13:50 |
mars | sinzui, rockstar, is one of you working on the broken build? | 13:54 |
sinzui | mars, I am trying to understand it | 13:55 |
mars | ok. Thanks sinzui. | 13:55 |
BjornT | deryck: yes. they said that even though it's somewhat useful to get notified for the developers, decreasing the number of e-mails sent was more important. | 13:56 |
deryck | BjornT, right, that makes sense, given the two choices. | 13:56 |
deryck | BjornT, and the only test for this is in test_bugchanges.py? | 13:56 |
BjornT | deryck: i think so, yes | 13:57 |
deryck | BjornT, ok, great, thanks for helping me understand. | 13:57 |
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sinzui | mars, is the build really broken? I think my pre-emptive fix was not really run until gary restarted it? | 14:09 |
mars | sinzui, I assume you can not reproduce this locally? If you suspect is not broken, maybe you can throw a null [testfix] in there and see if it breaks again? | 14:11 |
sinzui | mars, to force a build to see if the failure was spurious or real? | 14:11 |
mars | sinzui, that of course assumes that a null testfix will force a full suite re-run without adding changes from the queue - I don't know if that is the case. | 14:12 |
mars | sinzui, yes, to force a rebuild | 14:12 |
sinzui | I can always reformat a test :) | 14:12 |
mars | BjornT, ^ will that work? | 14:12 |
* mars is still learning about the pqm part of the build system | 14:13 | |
BjornT | mars: i'm not sure what the question is :) | 14:15 |
mars | BjornT, sinzui suspects the failure is suprious. Can he submit an empty [testfix] to PQM to have it clear the flag and force a rebuild of just his and Paul's changes? | 14:17 |
BjornT | sinzui: which failure? | 14:17 |
BjornT | mars: ^^^ | 14:18 |
sinzui | faq-views in failed devel (ran on the wrong layer). I did a preemptive fix, while it was building | 14:19 |
jelmer | jml: whoops, didn't mean to make you angry! | 14:19 |
BjornT | sinzui: right. and that fixed it, no? | 14:19 |
jml | jelmer: only blogging-angry | 14:19 |
jelmer | jml: is that a good kind of angry? | 14:19 |
jml | jelmer: it's the kind of angry that hurts no-one except my keyboard and maybe some people's bandwidth | 14:19 |
sinzui | BjornT, but it was (reported) failed again when gary forced it to restart. it is not clear if by forcing to to restart, my fix was in it so we saw a second failure? | 14:20 |
jelmer | jml: ah, good | 14:20 |
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mars | sinzui, BjornT, fwiw, I was just looking for the "kick it again and see" answer here :) | 14:21 |
mars | sinzui, BjornT, I just don't know the right way to give the test system said kick | 14:21 |
BjornT | sinzui: if you look at build 900, you see that it's testing up to r10892. your fix was r10895. as far as i can see, buildbot is all green. | 14:22 |
BjornT | mars: why kick it? the last build succeeded | 14:22 |
sinzui | BjornT, thanks for seeing that! mars, I think db-devel has already played the test | 14:22 |
mars | BjornT, ah, ok. So I was confused because it got fixed without any mail to the list saying "Everything is good again". | 14:24 |
mars | So I said "Oh, it must be broken" | 14:24 |
BjornT | mars: yeah, we should teach people to always reply to build failures, so that others don't waste time trying to fix something that has already been fixed | 14:30 |
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bac | hi matsubara | 20:27 |
matsubara | bac, hi | 20:27 |
bac | matsubara: i'm getting the message rejection email when i submit a MP even though i am subscribed to launchpad-bugs. does mesh with your understanding of the problem? | 20:27 |
matsubara | bac, I'm looking at the subscribers list and your email is parenthesized which means: Parenthesized entries have list delivery disabled. | 20:32 |
matsubara | maybe that's the reason? | 20:32 |
bac | no | 20:32 |
bac | i just talked to barry and he said i should be able to post still | 20:32 |
bac | matsubara: i think the problem is canonical-ubuntu-platform is subscribed to devel | 20:32 |
matsubara | I'm not even sure if the hypothesis is true anymore, since ~launchpad is configured to not receive any email from devel | 20:32 |
matsubara | bac, but then email to that team would go to: mdz-ubuntuplatform@alcor.net | 20:33 |
matsubara | s/email/emails/ | 20:33 |
bac | matsubara: ok, so maybe that's not it | 20:34 |
bac | matsubara: but launchpad-bugs is not the culprit, i don't think | 20:34 |
bac | it's really annoying | 20:34 |
matsubara | bac, AFAICT, there can be only one team in LP using the launchpad-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com email address | 20:35 |
matsubara | and that's ~launchpad | 20:35 |
bac | matsubara: right but we don't really know that list is the culprit | 20:35 |
matsubara | hmmm, unless we have another team with launchpad-bugs@lists.canonical.com | 20:35 |
bac | matsubara: and that list has been the contact email forever | 20:35 |
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mwhudson | morning | 21:11 |
thumper | morning | 21:17 |
jelmer_ | 'moin mwhudson, thumper | 21:22 |
thumper | hi jelmer_ | 21:22 |
thumper | I saw in passing last night that you had tweaked dulwich | 21:23 |
thumper | jelmer_: I can't seem to reproduce the original failure locally :( | 21:25 |
jelmer_ | Things that involve reference loops and the garbage collector never seem to be predictable :-/ | 21:26 |
* thumper does school run | 21:31 | |
mars | abentley, still online? | 21:44 |
abentley | mars, sure. | 21:44 |
mars | abentley, have a moment to look at that test suite problem you encountered? | 21:44 |
abentley | mars, OTP | 21:45 |
mars | abentley, ok, whenever you have a moment then | 21:45 |
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