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| Tm_T | lubuntu bots should have some contact mentioned in whois | 10:10 |
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| Mamarok_ | evilnhandler: fix your connection, please | 10:12 |
| tsimpson | Tm_T: the contacts are listed in the wiki | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | tsimpson: indeed, but random person seeing the bot doesn't possibly know that | 10:47 |
| tsimpson | Tm_T: do you happen to know how long the GECOS string can be? | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | tsimpson: unfortunately no I don't | 10:50 |
| Tm_T | ubot3 is still haunting, btw | 10:51 |
| tsimpson | jussi: ^ poke | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | it has nalioths cloak | 10:52 |
| jussi | sorted | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | jussi: thank you sir | 10:54 |
| tsimpson | Tm_T: link added | 10:57 |
| Tm_T | tsimpson: brilliant, thanks | 11:02 |
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| Damascene | what a mess in #ubuntu | 16:07 |
| Damascene | and it's your fault | 16:08 |
| Pici | Damascene: Er, what? | 16:08 |
| Damascene | there is 10 new user every minutes | 16:08 |
| Damascene | 5 question every minute | 16:09 |
| * erUSUL 0.o!` | 16:10 | |
| Pici | Damascene: And whats the problem? | 16:12 |
| Damascene | that you don't see any | 16:13 |
| erUSUL | Damascene: you can try to open our eyes ... bet you are talking about the #ubuntu to big to be usefull bug ... | 16:15 |
| Damascene | yes erUSUL | 16:16 |
| Damascene | *too big | 16:16 |
| erUSUL | https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/392799 | 16:17 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] | 16:17 |
| lubotu2 | Ubuntu bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] | 16:17 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful (affected: 8, heat: 60)" [Medium,In progress] | 16:17 |
| lubotu1 | Ubuntu bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] | 16:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] | 16:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful (affected: 8, heat: 60)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 16:17 |
| lubotu1 | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 16:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 16:17 |
| lubotu2 | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 16:17 |
| erUSUL | ouch!!! | 16:17 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:1325: error:140D2081:SSL routines:TLS1_ENC:block cipher pad is wrong (https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799) | 16:17 |
| jpds | tsimpson: Haha. | 16:18 |
| jpds | ;) | 16:18 |
| erUSUL | what are those lubotu(n) .... ? | 16:18 |
| jpds | erUSUL: LoCo bots. | 16:19 |
| erUSUL | ok; i take there is already a #ubuntu-bots channel ? | 16:19 |
| Pici | tsimpson: could you please disable bug snarfing for all bots except ubottu in here. | 16:19 |
| erUSUL | Damascene: anyway; you can see the discussion about your corcerns there in that bug. you can add your point of view like any other ubuntu user | 16:20 |
| jussi | bug 392799 | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 16:22 |
| jussi | :) | 16:22 |
| Pici | jussi: you can help too :) | 16:22 |
| Damascene | I've seen that bug earlier | 16:22 |
| * Tm_T feels big need to scream "no channel splitting!!" ): | 16:41 | |
| IdleOne | Tm_T: is that channel splitting convo still going on? | 17:11 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne: it never ends | 17:20 |
| IdleOne | seems like a waste of manpower to split the channel | 17:20 |
| Damascene | are you talking about #ubuntu? | 17:21 |
| IdleOne | yes | 17:22 |
| IdleOne | and splitting it into -lts etc | 17:22 |
| Damascene | well if you didn't spilt it you will keep losing users | 17:22 |
| IdleOne | How do you figure? | 17:23 |
| Damascene | will usually in a channel 10 can talk on one subject | 17:24 |
| Damascene | but what if there is 100 subject? | 17:24 |
| Damascene | should the other 99 subject wait? | 17:24 |
| IdleOne | that is why we use highlighting | 17:24 |
| IdleOne | I focus on what is addressed to me when I am trying to help a user | 17:25 |
| IdleOne | granted some of use more experienced user also try to keep up with other convos | 17:25 |
| IdleOne | s/use/us | 17:25 |
| IdleOne | but for the new user teaching them about !tab makes abig difference in my opinion | 17:26 |
| Damascene | so you should make sure that new users now about highlighting too | 17:27 |
| IdleOne | Damascene: I try to when I see that a user is not familiar with it | 17:27 |
| IdleOne | I am so used to using tab complete that I use it in priv msg also :) | 17:28 |
| IdleOne | or in a slow channel like this one is at the moment | 17:28 |
| Damascene | in many channel what people usually do is to look to a channel from time to time. in #ubuntu you should have all your eyes and ears there to be able to help someone | 17:28 |
| IdleOne | I know you are paying attention to what i am saying but I still highlighted you | 17:29 |
| IdleOne | we could use #ubuntu-irc-helpers as a place to redirect or as a place where a helper can ask a user to join for more detailed help with less scroll | 17:31 |
| IdleOne | right now it is a dead channel :/ | 17:32 |
| IdleOne | I would suggest making it an officially logged channel and metabot could also keep track of the questions asked and categorize the answers | 17:33 |
| IdleOne | just a thought | 17:33 |
| Damascene | will if you have enough helpers you can just make | 17:34 |
| Damascene | ubuntu-1 ubuntu-2 | 17:34 |
| Damascene | up to four channel | 17:34 |
| IdleOne | we don't need four channels | 17:34 |
| IdleOne | we have #ubuntu-irc-helpers | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | it is not a busy channel and can be used just for when a user has difficulties that require more detailed attention | 17:35 |
| IdleOne | not to mention a -1 would get confused with +1 | 17:36 |
| Damascene | I think enough discussion have been made and it's urgent to fix the problem | 17:37 |
| IdleOne | it could be set to +i and have the "helpers" invite the user. a list of trusted helpers could get access to do invites | 17:37 |
| Damascene | whether it is -1 or what ever the present situation is miss | 17:37 |
| IdleOne | or have a bot do the invites. !ubottu invite $user | 17:38 |
| IdleOne | and the bot sends a nice message saying hey $user would like you to join # | 17:38 |
| Damascene | you can just categorize the problems and have it in groups | 17:39 |
| Damascene | so interested users and helpers can be there | 17:39 |
| IdleOne | talk to LjL about metabot and how it works. | 17:40 |
| Damascene | LjL-Temp, talk to us about metabot, please. | 17:42 |
| IdleOne | often times we see users ask if the helper can go private. right now what we normally do is !pm | user we could add to that factoid and suggest #ubuntu-irc-helpers as an alternative to pm. That way there is still peer review insuring that bad advice is not given. | 17:43 |
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