/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/20/#ubuntu-manual.txt

ubuntujenkinsnight all00:11
dakergodbyk, ping01:03
godbykdaker: pong01:14
dakerdaker@ubuntu:~/Projects$ bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-website/uslc01:15
dakerPermission denied (publickey).01:15
dakerbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.01:15
godbykdaker: I'm getting that, too.  I think bzr may be down at the moment.01:16
godbyk(the web server keeps emailing me to say the auto-update is failing.)01:16
dakero.O01:16
godbykyeah, I think we just have to wait for the launchpad guys to get their stuff working again.01:17
dakerkk01:22
dakergodbyk, is there any metting for this week ?01:45
godbykI haven't heard anything yet01:46
dakeroki01:46
dakernight all01:46
flanQS server database storage-and-retrieval and templating engine prototypes now functional!03:35
* flan can finally start writing logic!03:35
IlyaHaykinsongodbyk: ping06:41
IlyaHaykinsongodbyk: ping?09:07
c7phey godbyk13:15
godbykc7p: morning13:15
c7pmorning, on the tex file i see some \glstodo and other todo tags13:16
c7pshould i remove them13:16
godbykc7p: you can if you like, but you don't need to.13:17
godbyk(they won't have any affect at the moment as I've turned off the display of to do notes.)13:17
c7phm, ok :)13:18
c7pahh13:18
c7pwhen I compile a pdf from the tex file (with the xelatex command) the font isn't the one we have choosen but the default13:18
c7pand the screenshot aren't the translated ones13:19
godbykThere's also some text in the final English draft that wasn't listed in the to-be-translated text of the lucid-e1 branch.  So I may have you translate that directly when we get to that point.13:19
godbykc7p: Oh! I know why that is.13:19
godbykc7p: If you look at the very top of the file, change the en_US to el and you should be set.13:19
godbyk(Normally the Makefile makes that change for us, but since we're not using it at the moment, we'll have to set it manually.)13:20
c7pyeah it's fixed now :)13:21
c7pif you want, send me the text for the translation and I will assign it to the translation team13:22
godbykc7p: I'll do that soon.13:22
godbyk(I have to figure out what all bits I added at the last minute. :))13:23
c7pgodbyk: ok ty :) , you have my mail right?13:23
godbykI think it's primarily a new paragraph on the copyright page and the colophon.13:23
godbykc7p: yep!13:23
c7pgodbyk: cool :d13:23
ubuntujenkinsc7p: I have just pushed the missing screenshots, I found 4 others missing/ They were common ones that i forgot to add to the el folder. They are now in lucid-e113:47
c7pok :)13:47
c7pgodbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the page, what option do I have ?14:41
c7pnext page*14:41
flanubuntujenkins, godbyk, I was speaking with t-h-u-m-p-e-r last night, and it seems our approach to using Bazaar is a little off.15:03
ubuntujenkinsflan in what way?15:03
flanApparently, and convincingly, after some Googling and reading, the preferred way to handle things is to make use of merges to commit things to trunk/main-branch.15:04
flanBranch trunk into a working copy, make changes, and then propose that for merging.15:04
ubuntujenkinsYea, we can do it that way, but as we are a small team and are devloping quickly we decided against it.15:05
flanIt seems like that would help to avoid the version-number-flux and confusion we experienced when things got hectic last time.15:05
flanOh, yeah, I totally understand.15:05
flanI don't plan to change my ways with the QS server until we have something stable, for example.15:05
flanSince I'm the only active developer.15:05
ubuntujenkinsthe version number flux was only caused by people not pulling before commiting and then merging15:05
flanThat was the trigger, but merging in would have prevented that from being an issue altogether.15:06
ubuntujenkinsi understand and agree15:06
flanWhat seems to have been happening is that trunk was being merged into a working copy, and then the working copy was replacing trunk.15:06
flanRather than the working copy being merged into trunk.15:06
flanAnyway, not really something that will make or break things, but probably a good best-practice plan for going forward, once we have code/files in trunk that we can consider stable.15:07
flan(And for any other projects we'll build in the future)15:07
ubuntujenkinsyea, if we get too many people on the quickshot gui i will concider using it there. Also once we are stable like you said15:08
dakergodbyk, ping17:19
godbykdaker: pong17:20
dakerhave you found any technique for the autorequest from launchpad?17:22
godbykto auto-request what from launchpad?17:22
dakertranslations17:23
godbykthe only way I know of it to set it to auto-import the translations into your branch.17:23
godbykhere's the problem, though:17:23
godbykyou should NOT auto-import translations into your branch and also auto-import translation stuff from the branch into launchpad.17:24
godbykthe launchpad guys say that doesn't work well at all.17:24
dakeroh :s17:24
godbykI would ask in #launchpad about auto-importing translations from launchpad to the branch.  see if it works well or should be avoided.17:24
dakerit's very hot today 37°C Waw17:48
godbykWow.  It's a perfectly comfortable 19°C here today.17:53
daker:/17:58
dutchieit's a warm ~25 here18:12
flanIt's a nice 15C here.18:20
dakerflan, it very bad here :)18:20
dakerit's*18:21
flan37C would be bad anywhere. =P18:22
dakeryeah18:29
c7phey godbyk18:41
godbykHey, c7p18:41
c7pgodbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the next page, what options do I have ?18:42
godbykc7p: There are a few things we can do. But I would leave it as is for now and we'll deal with page breaks at the very end.18:44
c7pok :)18:44
c7ptoday or tomorrow I will finish the marginnotes job so when you can send me the text ;)18:45
godbykCool.18:47
godbykLet me find the text and email it to you then.18:47
c7pnice :)18:48
flan"Uh... [VirtualBox] is published by Sun, available under the GPL." "So we'd need to get a support contract with Sun? How much does that cost?"18:51
flanI need out of this environment. :(18:51
godbykc7p: I've emailed you the files.18:52
c7pgodbyk: you are the boss!18:52
flan(This is to support a client who can't access a site someone developed because they added a bit of JavaScript that rejects non-IE browsers. They refuse to remove the script because they can't guarantee it'll work with alternative browsers)18:53
ubuntujenkinsflan: can they not use a firefox pluign that acts as if it was ie. I can't rember the name20:05
* thorwil is sad IE is nothing physical, because if it was it could burn!20:08
ubuntujenkinsflan: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59/20:12
ubuntujenkinsthorwil: lol20:14
ubuntujenkinsits really anoying its the only thing the uni has on its pcs. It crashes sooo much its unbelievable20:16
dutchieubuntujenkins: get a live usb stick, or a popey-style geekbox :)20:17
ubuntujenkinshmm I think it might go mad if I plugged one in and booted from it :)20:18
ubuntujenkins*IT20:18
flanI proposed changing the user-agent first, but that was voted down immediately as being too hard to explain.20:27
* flan shrugs.20:27
flan(Then someone else started talking about Parallels and convinced others it was a good idea, so I offered VirtualBox as an alternative)20:28
* flan commits a QS server internal-naming change.20:29
flanI dunno why I thought it'd be a good idea to call it "server".20:29
ubuntujenkinssurely user agent is the most simple of all those :$20:30
flan~/projects/quickshot/server/server/server/model/__init__.py is confusing20:30
flanI'm not exactly surrounded by the most clueful of people here. :(20:30
ubuntujenkinslol does the word server occur enough20:30
flanIt's now ~/projects/quickshot/server/quickshot/[quickshot/]20:31
flanI wanted to leave the root open.20:32
flanMuch easier to look at, though.20:32
c7pgodbyk: i have a problem with the inclusion of the marginnote in some enumerate lists23:00
godbykc7p: okay. for now just make a note of it and we can fix it when the others are done.23:01
c7pgodbyk: normally these \marginnote s were \notecallout but the problem is that the word Note isn't translated23:01
godbykc7p: You can rename the \notecallout to \marginnote, if you like.23:01
godbyk(\notecallout is obsolete.)23:01
c7pbut if I do so I have a problem with the compilation of the pdf, a bit wierd23:02
c7pweird*23:02
godbykdoes \notecallout have something in [brackets]?  If so, remove the stuff in brackets.23:02
godbyk(and change to \margonnote)23:02
quickshotdevsNew news from manualplanet: Per Erik Glærum Grønvik: Ubuntu Amarok as default?23:18
ubuntujenkinsyey \o/ the rss feed works now23:29

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