[00:11] night all [01:03] godbyk, ping [01:14] daker: pong [01:15] daker@ubuntu:~/Projects$ bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-website/uslc [01:15] Permission denied (publickey). [01:15] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. [01:16] daker: I'm getting that, too. I think bzr may be down at the moment. [01:16] (the web server keeps emailing me to say the auto-update is failing.) [01:16] o.O [01:17] yeah, I think we just have to wait for the launchpad guys to get their stuff working again. [01:22] kk [01:45] godbyk, is there any metting for this week ? [01:46] I haven't heard anything yet [01:46] oki [01:46] night all [03:35] QS server database storage-and-retrieval and templating engine prototypes now functional! [03:35] * flan can finally start writing logic! [06:41] godbyk: ping [09:07] godbyk: ping? [13:15] hey godbyk [13:15] c7p: morning [13:16] morning, on the tex file i see some \glstodo and other todo tags [13:16] should i remove them [13:17] c7p: you can if you like, but you don't need to. [13:17] (they won't have any affect at the moment as I've turned off the display of to do notes.) [13:18] hm, ok :) [13:18] ahh [13:18] when I compile a pdf from the tex file (with the xelatex command) the font isn't the one we have choosen but the default [13:19] and the screenshot aren't the translated ones [13:19] There's also some text in the final English draft that wasn't listed in the to-be-translated text of the lucid-e1 branch. So I may have you translate that directly when we get to that point. [13:19] c7p: Oh! I know why that is. [13:19] c7p: If you look at the very top of the file, change the en_US to el and you should be set. [13:20] (Normally the Makefile makes that change for us, but since we're not using it at the moment, we'll have to set it manually.) [13:21] yeah it's fixed now :) [13:22] if you want, send me the text for the translation and I will assign it to the translation team [13:22] c7p: I'll do that soon. [13:23] (I have to figure out what all bits I added at the last minute. :)) [13:23] godbyk: ok ty :) , you have my mail right? [13:23] I think it's primarily a new paragraph on the copyright page and the colophon. [13:23] c7p: yep! [13:23] godbyk: cool :d [13:47] c7p: I have just pushed the missing screenshots, I found 4 others missing/ They were common ones that i forgot to add to the el folder. They are now in lucid-e1 [13:47] ok :) [14:41] godbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the page, what option do I have ? [14:41] next page* [15:03] ubuntujenkins, godbyk, I was speaking with t-h-u-m-p-e-r last night, and it seems our approach to using Bazaar is a little off. [15:03] flan in what way? [15:04] Apparently, and convincingly, after some Googling and reading, the preferred way to handle things is to make use of merges to commit things to trunk/main-branch. [15:04] Branch trunk into a working copy, make changes, and then propose that for merging. [15:05] Yea, we can do it that way, but as we are a small team and are devloping quickly we decided against it. [15:05] It seems like that would help to avoid the version-number-flux and confusion we experienced when things got hectic last time. [15:05] Oh, yeah, I totally understand. [15:05] I don't plan to change my ways with the QS server until we have something stable, for example. [15:05] Since I'm the only active developer. [15:05] the version number flux was only caused by people not pulling before commiting and then merging [15:06] That was the trigger, but merging in would have prevented that from being an issue altogether. [15:06] i understand and agree [15:06] What seems to have been happening is that trunk was being merged into a working copy, and then the working copy was replacing trunk. [15:06] Rather than the working copy being merged into trunk. [15:07] Anyway, not really something that will make or break things, but probably a good best-practice plan for going forward, once we have code/files in trunk that we can consider stable. [15:07] (And for any other projects we'll build in the future) [15:08] yea, if we get too many people on the quickshot gui i will concider using it there. Also once we are stable like you said [17:19] godbyk, ping [17:20] daker: pong [17:22] have you found any technique for the autorequest from launchpad? [17:22] to auto-request what from launchpad? [17:23] translations [17:23] the only way I know of it to set it to auto-import the translations into your branch. [17:23] here's the problem, though: [17:24] you should NOT auto-import translations into your branch and also auto-import translation stuff from the branch into launchpad. [17:24] the launchpad guys say that doesn't work well at all. [17:24] oh :s [17:24] I would ask in #launchpad about auto-importing translations from launchpad to the branch. see if it works well or should be avoided. [17:48] it's very hot today 37°C Waw [17:53] Wow. It's a perfectly comfortable 19°C here today. [17:58] :/ [18:12] it's a warm ~25 here [18:20] It's a nice 15C here. [18:20] flan, it very bad here :) [18:21] it's* [18:22] 37C would be bad anywhere. =P [18:29] yeah [18:41] hey godbyk [18:41] Hey, c7p [18:42] godbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the next page, what options do I have ? [18:44] c7p: There are a few things we can do. But I would leave it as is for now and we'll deal with page breaks at the very end. [18:44] ok :) [18:45] today or tomorrow I will finish the marginnotes job so when you can send me the text ;) [18:47] Cool. [18:47] Let me find the text and email it to you then. [18:48] nice :) [18:51] "Uh... [VirtualBox] is published by Sun, available under the GPL." "So we'd need to get a support contract with Sun? How much does that cost?" [18:51] I need out of this environment. :( [18:52] c7p: I've emailed you the files. [18:52] godbyk: you are the boss! [18:53] (This is to support a client who can't access a site someone developed because they added a bit of JavaScript that rejects non-IE browsers. They refuse to remove the script because they can't guarantee it'll work with alternative browsers) [20:05] flan: can they not use a firefox pluign that acts as if it was ie. I can't rember the name [20:08] * thorwil is sad IE is nothing physical, because if it was it could burn! [20:12] flan: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59/ [20:14] thorwil: lol [20:16] its really anoying its the only thing the uni has on its pcs. It crashes sooo much its unbelievable [20:17] ubuntujenkins: get a live usb stick, or a popey-style geekbox :) [20:18] hmm I think it might go mad if I plugged one in and booted from it :) [20:18] *IT [20:27] I proposed changing the user-agent first, but that was voted down immediately as being too hard to explain. [20:27] * flan shrugs. [20:28] (Then someone else started talking about Parallels and convinced others it was a good idea, so I offered VirtualBox as an alternative) [20:29] * flan commits a QS server internal-naming change. [20:29] I dunno why I thought it'd be a good idea to call it "server". [20:30] surely user agent is the most simple of all those :$ [20:30] ~/projects/quickshot/server/server/server/model/__init__.py is confusing [20:30] I'm not exactly surrounded by the most clueful of people here. :( [20:30] lol does the word server occur enough [20:31] It's now ~/projects/quickshot/server/quickshot/[quickshot/] [20:32] I wanted to leave the root open. [20:32] Much easier to look at, though. [23:00] godbyk: i have a problem with the inclusion of the marginnote in some enumerate lists [23:01] c7p: okay. for now just make a note of it and we can fix it when the others are done. [23:01] godbyk: normally these \marginnote s were \notecallout but the problem is that the word Note isn't translated [23:01] c7p: You can rename the \notecallout to \marginnote, if you like. [23:01] (\notecallout is obsolete.) [23:02] but if I do so I have a problem with the compilation of the pdf, a bit wierd [23:02] weird* [23:02] does \notecallout have something in [brackets]? If so, remove the stuff in brackets. [23:02] (and change to \margonnote) [23:18] New news from manualplanet: Per Erik Glærum Grønvik: Ubuntu Amarok as default? [23:29] yey \o/ the rss feed works now