[00:11] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[01:03] <daker> godbyk, ping
[01:14] <godbyk> daker: pong
[01:15] <daker> daker@ubuntu:~/Projects$ bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-website/uslc
[01:15] <daker> Permission denied (publickey).
[01:15] <daker> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[01:16] <godbyk> daker: I'm getting that, too.  I think bzr may be down at the moment.
[01:16] <godbyk> (the web server keeps emailing me to say the auto-update is failing.)
[01:16] <daker> o.O
[01:17] <godbyk> yeah, I think we just have to wait for the launchpad guys to get their stuff working again.
[01:22] <daker> kk
[01:45] <daker> godbyk, is there any metting for this week ?
[01:46] <godbyk> I haven't heard anything yet
[01:46] <daker> oki
[01:46] <daker> night all
[03:35] <flan> QS server database storage-and-retrieval and templating engine prototypes now functional!
[03:35]  * flan can finally start writing logic!
[06:41] <IlyaHaykinson> godbyk: ping
[09:07] <IlyaHaykinson> godbyk: ping?
[13:15] <c7p> hey godbyk
[13:15] <godbyk> c7p: morning
[13:16] <c7p> morning, on the tex file i see some \glstodo and other todo tags
[13:16] <c7p> should i remove them
[13:17] <godbyk> c7p: you can if you like, but you don't need to.
[13:17] <godbyk> (they won't have any affect at the moment as I've turned off the display of to do notes.)
[13:18] <c7p> hm, ok :)
[13:18] <c7p> ahh
[13:18] <c7p> when I compile a pdf from the tex file (with the xelatex command) the font isn't the one we have choosen but the default
[13:19] <c7p> and the screenshot aren't the translated ones
[13:19] <godbyk> There's also some text in the final English draft that wasn't listed in the to-be-translated text of the lucid-e1 branch.  So I may have you translate that directly when we get to that point.
[13:19] <godbyk> c7p: Oh! I know why that is.
[13:19] <godbyk> c7p: If you look at the very top of the file, change the en_US to el and you should be set.
[13:20] <godbyk> (Normally the Makefile makes that change for us, but since we're not using it at the moment, we'll have to set it manually.)
[13:21] <c7p> yeah it's fixed now :)
[13:22] <c7p> if you want, send me the text for the translation and I will assign it to the translation team
[13:22] <godbyk> c7p: I'll do that soon.
[13:23] <godbyk> (I have to figure out what all bits I added at the last minute. :))
[13:23] <c7p> godbyk: ok ty :) , you have my mail right?
[13:23] <godbyk> I think it's primarily a new paragraph on the copyright page and the colophon.
[13:23] <godbyk> c7p: yep!
[13:23] <c7p> godbyk: cool :d
[13:47] <ubuntujenkins> c7p: I have just pushed the missing screenshots, I found 4 others missing/ They were common ones that i forgot to add to the el folder. They are now in lucid-e1
[13:47] <c7p> ok :)
[14:41] <c7p> godbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the page, what option do I have ?
[14:41] <c7p> next page*
[15:03] <flan> ubuntujenkins, godbyk, I was speaking with t-h-u-m-p-e-r last night, and it seems our approach to using Bazaar is a little off.
[15:03] <ubuntujenkins> flan in what way?
[15:04] <flan> Apparently, and convincingly, after some Googling and reading, the preferred way to handle things is to make use of merges to commit things to trunk/main-branch.
[15:04] <flan> Branch trunk into a working copy, make changes, and then propose that for merging.
[15:05] <ubuntujenkins> Yea, we can do it that way, but as we are a small team and are devloping quickly we decided against it.
[15:05] <flan> It seems like that would help to avoid the version-number-flux and confusion we experienced when things got hectic last time.
[15:05] <flan> Oh, yeah, I totally understand.
[15:05] <flan> I don't plan to change my ways with the QS server until we have something stable, for example.
[15:05] <flan> Since I'm the only active developer.
[15:05] <ubuntujenkins> the version number flux was only caused by people not pulling before commiting and then merging
[15:06] <flan> That was the trigger, but merging in would have prevented that from being an issue altogether.
[15:06] <ubuntujenkins> i understand and agree
[15:06] <flan> What seems to have been happening is that trunk was being merged into a working copy, and then the working copy was replacing trunk.
[15:06] <flan> Rather than the working copy being merged into trunk.
[15:07] <flan> Anyway, not really something that will make or break things, but probably a good best-practice plan for going forward, once we have code/files in trunk that we can consider stable.
[15:07] <flan> (And for any other projects we'll build in the future)
[15:08] <ubuntujenkins> yea, if we get too many people on the quickshot gui i will concider using it there. Also once we are stable like you said
[17:19] <daker> godbyk, ping
[17:20] <godbyk> daker: pong
[17:22] <daker> have you found any technique for the autorequest from launchpad?
[17:22] <godbyk> to auto-request what from launchpad?
[17:23] <daker> translations
[17:23] <godbyk> the only way I know of it to set it to auto-import the translations into your branch.
[17:23] <godbyk> here's the problem, though:
[17:24] <godbyk> you should NOT auto-import translations into your branch and also auto-import translation stuff from the branch into launchpad.
[17:24] <godbyk> the launchpad guys say that doesn't work well at all.
[17:24] <daker> oh :s
[17:24] <godbyk> I would ask in #launchpad about auto-importing translations from launchpad to the branch.  see if it works well or should be avoided.
[17:48] <daker> it's very hot today 37°C Waw
[17:53] <godbyk> Wow.  It's a perfectly comfortable 19°C here today.
[17:58] <daker> :/
[18:12] <dutchie> it's a warm ~25 here
[18:20] <flan> It's a nice 15C here.
[18:20] <daker> flan, it very bad here :)
[18:21] <daker> it's*
[18:22] <flan> 37C would be bad anywhere. =P
[18:29] <daker> yeah
[18:41] <c7p> hey godbyk
[18:41] <godbyk> Hey, c7p
[18:42] <c7p> godbyk: If I want to move a \subsubsection to the next page, what options do I have ?
[18:44] <godbyk> c7p: There are a few things we can do. But I would leave it as is for now and we'll deal with page breaks at the very end.
[18:44] <c7p> ok :)
[18:45] <c7p> today or tomorrow I will finish the marginnotes job so when you can send me the text ;)
[18:47] <godbyk> Cool.
[18:47] <godbyk> Let me find the text and email it to you then.
[18:48] <c7p> nice :)
[18:51] <flan> "Uh... [VirtualBox] is published by Sun, available under the GPL." "So we'd need to get a support contract with Sun? How much does that cost?"
[18:51] <flan> I need out of this environment. :(
[18:52] <godbyk> c7p: I've emailed you the files.
[18:52] <c7p> godbyk: you are the boss!
[18:53] <flan> (This is to support a client who can't access a site someone developed because they added a bit of JavaScript that rejects non-IE browsers. They refuse to remove the script because they can't guarantee it'll work with alternative browsers)
[20:05] <ubuntujenkins> flan: can they not use a firefox pluign that acts as if it was ie. I can't rember the name
[20:08]  * thorwil is sad IE is nothing physical, because if it was it could burn!
[20:12] <ubuntujenkins> flan: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59/
[20:14] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil: lol
[20:16] <ubuntujenkins> its really anoying its the only thing the uni has on its pcs. It crashes sooo much its unbelievable
[20:17] <dutchie> ubuntujenkins: get a live usb stick, or a popey-style geekbox :)
[20:18] <ubuntujenkins> hmm I think it might go mad if I plugged one in and booted from it :)
[20:18] <ubuntujenkins> *IT
[20:27] <flan> I proposed changing the user-agent first, but that was voted down immediately as being too hard to explain.
[20:27]  * flan shrugs.
[20:28] <flan> (Then someone else started talking about Parallels and convinced others it was a good idea, so I offered VirtualBox as an alternative)
[20:29]  * flan commits a QS server internal-naming change.
[20:29] <flan> I dunno why I thought it'd be a good idea to call it "server".
[20:30] <ubuntujenkins> surely user agent is the most simple of all those :$
[20:30] <flan> ~/projects/quickshot/server/server/server/model/__init__.py is confusing
[20:30] <flan> I'm not exactly surrounded by the most clueful of people here. :(
[20:30] <ubuntujenkins> lol does the word server occur enough
[20:31] <flan> It's now ~/projects/quickshot/server/quickshot/[quickshot/]
[20:32] <flan> I wanted to leave the root open.
[20:32] <flan> Much easier to look at, though.
[23:00] <c7p> godbyk: i have a problem with the inclusion of the marginnote in some enumerate lists
[23:01] <godbyk> c7p: okay. for now just make a note of it and we can fix it when the others are done.
[23:01] <c7p> godbyk: normally these \marginnote s were \notecallout but the problem is that the word Note isn't translated
[23:01] <godbyk> c7p: You can rename the \notecallout to \marginnote, if you like.
[23:01] <godbyk> (\notecallout is obsolete.)
[23:02] <c7p> but if I do so I have a problem with the compilation of the pdf, a bit wierd
[23:02] <c7p> weird*
[23:02] <godbyk> does \notecallout have something in [brackets]?  If so, remove the stuff in brackets.
[23:02] <godbyk> (and change to \margonnote)
[23:18] <quickshotdevs> New news from manualplanet: Per Erik Glærum Grønvik: Ubuntu Amarok as default?
[23:29] <ubuntujenkins> yey \o/ the rss feed works now