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| JontheEchidna | Riddell: The libphonon version from the phonon source package still appears to be lower than that from the qt4-x11 package :( | 03:56 |
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| shtylman | heh | 03:57 |
| shtylman | taco... you know where the network manager plasmoid source code lives? | 03:57 |
| ScottK | shtylman: I think it's in playground | 03:57 |
| shtylman | I thought it got moved out of playground? | 03:58 |
| shtylman | ah... kdereview! | 04:02 |
| JontheEchidna | The only way I can see to fix the phonon version without adding to the epoch is to make it 4.7really4.4.1 | 04:09 |
| ScottK | What's the issue? | 04:14 |
| ScottK | Oh | 04:14 |
| ScottK | I think Debian did something like that. | 04:14 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: phonon | 4:4.6.0really4.4.1-2 | unstable | source, all | 04:14 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: yeah, we did that too, but we already had 4:4.6.2 when we switched over to 4:4.6.2really4.4.1 | 04:15 |
| JontheEchidna | Debian got lucky and was doing it at the same time they were upgrading from 4.5 to 4.6 | 04:15 |
| ScottK | So we do it when we switch to 4.7.... | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | but since we're already using a different version since we're bumping it later, it doesn't matter too much | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 04:16 |
| * JontheEchidna goes off to do that | 04:16 | |
| JontheEchidna | well, after the Qt tarball finishes downloading | 04:17 |
| JontheEchidna | wait, phonon is in it's own separate tarball now \o/ | 04:17 |
| JontheEchidna | wow, the Qt tarball grew. 192 MB | 04:17 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok, phonon with a bumped version uploaded | 04:21 |
| JontheEchidna | already building on some archs, neat | 04:22 |
| ScottK | Working in Main is a lot more immediately satisfying than Universe in that respect. | 04:22 |
| SandGorgon | hey guys.. could someone tell me what happens to KFileMetaInfoPrivate::init if Strigi is disabled - cos StreamAnalyzer is still being initialized | 04:39 |
| shtylman | SandGorgon: a better place to ask might be #kde-devel | 04:41 |
| shtylman | here is more specific to kubuntu things | 04:42 |
| SandGorgon | ahh..ok | 04:42 |
| apachelogger | so, I didnt follow up on it, but did anyone create a snapshot of knm from trunk? | 07:53 |
| jussi | apachelogger: I dont think so, I didnt see any mention of it. But then agin, I may have missed something | 08:15 |
| Riddell | happy Friday Kubuntu | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | happy friday Riddell \o/ | 10:14 |
| jussi | hey apachelogger, how did the me menu go? | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | didnt I tell you | 10:25 |
| jussi | apachelogger: no... | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | darn it | 10:34 |
| jussi | or maybe I missed it if you did... | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | you just blingd into helio talking about himself! | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | good job there | 10:34 |
| * jussi hides... | 10:35 | |
| amichair | Riddell: happy friday :-) | 11:19 |
| Sput | jussi: yeah, we shouldn't *bling* apachelogger all the time, it's very annoying | 11:22 |
| jussi | Sput: yeah, *blinging* apachelogger wouldnt be nice | 11:22 |
| jussi | :P | 11:22 |
| Sput | he finally turned off the volume | 11:22 |
| Sput | that took him only half a day | 11:22 |
| jussi | mustve been really annoying | 11:22 |
| Sput | yeah, for everybody around him | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | :P | 11:27 |
| emonkey | apachelogger, *bling* ouw .. sorry ... tried to do not ... ^ ^ | 11:43 |
| Sput | emonkey: yeah, it's very tempting to *bling* apachelogger, though it lost on coolness when he muted his laptop :/ | 11:46 |
| emonkey | Sput, yeah I read it, but I think there's something visual notification on apachelogger notebook ... :-) | 11:47 |
| jussi | poor apachelogger | 11:47 |
| Riddell | "DO NOT CONVERT DIRECT DEBIAN CHANGES TO PATCHES!" apachelogger did you have some issues with qtcreator by any chance? | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: someone converted direct source changes to patches obviously ;) | 11:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why were there direct source changes? | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you not push that strigi-not-only-with-less-than-one-gig-ram? | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: debian maintains it in a full-source packaging branch | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | i.e. they carry the delta via git itself and not patches | 12:02 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: It's in the final version of lucid | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | strange, KRF from amarok just installed in a vbox and nepomuk was doing indexing | 12:05 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I did have to fix it because it was doing its job a bit too well | 12:05 |
| JontheEchidna | perhaps I fixed it too much :P | 12:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm that is quite some changes they make to qtcreator | 12:17 |
| jussi | argh... nepomuk is evil to me... says it isnt running when I try to add stuff to my address book... | 12:18 |
| * jussi hrms | 12:18 | |
| Riddell | I do believe qtcreator confirms the brokenness of qmake | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: trying to build it? | 12:47 |
| Riddell | it's built but it installs to / not /usr and the changes needed to make it install to /usr are fiddly | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | and undocumented, I recall | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | it was quite a mess when I tried to build it last time | 12:49 |
| Riddell | and if I convert those changes to a patch I'm afraid that apachelogger will eat me | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | only converting debian changes to patches ;) | 12:52 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: well I need to update the debian changes for the new version | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: patch on top of them | 12:53 |
| Riddell | wibble, patches on patches | 12:54 |
| Sput | apachelogger: so how's the *blinging* now? | 12:57 |
| jussi | Sput: dont be nasty! | 12:57 |
| jussi | :P | 12:57 |
| Sput | jussi: na gut | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: technically the debian changes are not patches | 12:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: maybe but they won't apply to the updated version | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | well, you could clone the debian git and change the stuff there, then request a merge back into the debian git repo | 12:58 |
| Riddell | wibble | 13:01 |
| rgreening | "they wibble and wobble but don't fall down" | 13:10 |
| * txwikinger wonders if there is something that needs to be merged | 13:35 | |
| shadeslayer | oh btw you cant chroot into a 10.04 install from a 9.10 CD :P | 13:38 |
| persia | Why not? What doesn't work? filesystem support? | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | persia: it gives me a error which something on the lines of bad binary format of /bin/bash | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | -which | 13:39 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: take your pick https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html :) | 13:39 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: anything with priority? | 13:39 |
| persia | shadeslayer: Something else has gone wrong then. The execution binary format did not change between those two releases. | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | persia: i followed the wiki line by line.. was trying to restore grub :P | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD | 13:40 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: everything in main is a priority. how about kaffeine to start you off? | 13:41 |
| txwikinger | ok | 13:41 |
| Riddell | (everything in universe is a priority to all upstanding MOTUs of course :) | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: whats the procedure to get a package merged? | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | persia: i really dont know if i did anything wrong... i tried twice,reading the wiki and doing exactly as it said :P | 13:43 |
| persia | shadeslayer: I believe you. | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | persia: hehe.. | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: do you have a idea for the procedure to merge packages? | 13:47 |
| txwikinger | its on the merge wiki page | 13:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: grab the old package, grab the newer packge in debian, work out what changes need to be kept from our previous debian fork, put them into the new package | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | ah found the wiki page.. need to provide specific arguments to google for a perfect search :P | 13:49 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: Sorry.. I had to change the wiki page :) | 13:50 |
| Riddell | ug, 20 hours later qt on arm fails | 13:56 |
| jjesse | took 20 hours to compile on arm? | 13:57 |
| Riddell | "Session terminated, killing shell...make: *** [binary-arch] Terminated" | 13:57 |
| Riddell | out of memory? | 13:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main libqt4-webkit-dbg 4:4.7~beta1-0ubuntu1 [170MB] | 13:59 |
| JontheEchidna | :( | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: o/ | 13:59 |
| Riddell | why so sad? | 13:59 |
| JontheEchidna | 170 MB | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | the pain of downloading 170 MB :P | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | projected to take half an hour | 14:00 |
| Riddell | webkit is no small beast | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw will the Alpha 1 have a live image or just a alternate CD? | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | You know, I believe that the sync blacklist has a note on kde-l10n about Kubuntu not liking 250 MB tarballs. The irony is that Qt's is now 190 MB | 14:01 |
| Riddell | whatever is working at the time | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: oh ok :) | 14:01 |
| * shadeslayer is planning to move to BTRFS | 14:01 | |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: Grab the Merge-O-Matic output. You can do this using grab-merge.sh. | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: what does that mean? | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | i have grab-merge.sh .. what do i do with it? :P | 14:07 |
| txwikinger | that is what the automatic merge tool creates by itself | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: i just ran it and it asked if i want to clear my local merge dir,and i said yes and then nothing | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: do i have to provide a argument as well? | 14:10 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: sorry.. not sure what you are doing atm... and I have to do some paid work ;) | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: oh sure.. go ahead ill just read more on MoM :) | 14:13 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: yes do that | 14:13 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Use grab-merge is ubuntu-dev-tools, not the one off the site. | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yeah i installed ubuntu-dev-tools :) | 14:33 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: kaffeine builds on lucid, but not on maverick.. I think libqt4-webkit is broken on maverick | 14:37 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: you need libqt4-webkit-dev now | 14:38 |
| txwikinger | Ah.. that would do it :) | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Time to reboot for that sweet, sweet Qt-minor-version-upgrade speedup placebo | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I am not sure that is the problem... I get an apt-get error in pbuilder that libqt4-webkit is broken | 14:47 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: make a chroot see if you can recreate it | 14:50 |
| txwikinger | yeah.. I probably have to do that | 14:51 |
| * shtylman is gonna start writing up a list of my kde annoyances (things I see in trunk right now) | 14:54 | |
| shtylman | where is agateau when you need him... | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Looks like favicons are working in Qt 4.7: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopbg1818-jpg.jpg | 14:58 |
| shtylman | cool | 14:59 |
| shtylman | chromium is still faster :p | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: meh.. chromium has javascript errors on gitorious.org | 15:00 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah... | 15:00 |
| JontheEchidna | it is faster | 15:00 |
| shtylman | shadeslayer: I use it for gitorious all the time | 15:00 |
| shtylman | haven't really noticed a problem... might have missed it tho | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: weird... i cant click on the ? | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | maybe because of the new site? | 15:01 |
| shtylman | shadeslayer: works for me | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: well.. idk ..it isnt working for me right now and i do have a chromium update in the pipeline :P | 15:03 |
| shtylman | sounds like you need to update | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: 236 MB of updates... id rather download another episode of Lost :P | 15:05 |
| shtylman | if you say so | 15:05 |
| shtylman | on further thought... a systray with a hide/show toggle is a horrible usability idea | 15:10 |
| shtylman | the systray should be smarter about which icons it autoshows... if I don't need to see an icon (i.e. not active) I don't need to see it ... | 15:11 |
| shtylman | \/rant | 15:11 |
| shtylman | :) | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 15:14 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Once it's smart enough I never want to unhide stuff by hand, then remove the toggle, not before. | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: nhn from amarok says the installers english version is filled with typos and stuff? | 15:15 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: hmm | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you attended the Qt 4.7 session at uds? | 15:15 |
| shtylman | thats no good | 15:15 |
| shtylman | example typo? | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: didnt tell me :) | 15:15 |
| shtylman | ScottK: yes... but if we don't disable the hide/unhide there is never incentive to make it smart enough | 15:15 |
| shtylman | looks like another thing to add to my todo list :) | 15:15 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I did. | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: any precise information that came up about phonons future in Qt? | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | will it be removed at some point in favor of qtmultimedia? | 15:16 |
| ScottK | shtylman: That's Gnomish thinking. If we make it broken enough, someone will fix it. | 15:16 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No. | 15:16 |
| shtylman | ScottK: :) | 15:16 |
| shtylman | heh | 15:16 |
| shtylman | but imho it is "broken" right now | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: kthx | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: unping :) | 15:17 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Yes, but it's better than the user not being able to control it. | 15:17 |
| shtylman_ | ScottK: I don't mean to say we should ship it broken... I just mean to say that the feature itself is a problem... imho it goes back to the whole rant about my desktop not being what I want to interact with | 15:19 |
| ScottK | shtylman_: I understand. Personally I was quite glad when it arrived because it let me hide stuff I almost never want to see. | 15:20 |
| ScottK | I agree it would be better if the system were smarter. | 15:20 |
| shtylman_ | ScottK: the problem is... if you don't want to see it ... why does it have an icon in the first place? | 15:20 |
| ScottK | It's the "almost never" part that's the trick. | 15:21 |
| shtylman_ | heh | 15:21 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: unpong | 15:23 |
| * apachelogger hugs Riddell | 15:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | btw, KDE 4.5 beta tarballs are up in ktown | 15:25 |
| shtylman_ | ktown eh... heh | 15:25 |
| shtylman_ | yea... I got kde trunk going last night again | 15:25 |
| shtylman_ | thus my ranting about things :) | 15:25 |
| JontheEchidna | We're almost done merging. All that's left after I sponsor lex's merges are base-runtime, base-workspace and bindings | 15:26 |
| shtylman_ | ScottK: oh yea... window title bars are also on the choping block... 1/4 inch of wasted vertical space in every window | 15:26 |
| shtylman_ | imho we need a list of kde "papercuts" :) | 15:27 |
| jjesse | we don't have any for maverick yet? i thought we had some for lucid | 15:27 |
| shtylman_ | not sure | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman_: we can just use a tag in the exsisting papercuts... like kde or something | 15:28 |
| ScottK | I'll try to do workspace tonight. | 15:28 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I was quietly ignoring them until merges are done | 15:30 |
| JontheEchidna | ;) | 15:30 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan had started to do kdebase-runtime, but I he didn't quite get it merged all the way. I'll have to ping him next time he appears | 15:30 |
| Riddell | I'd like to go onto kdebindings shortly | 15:31 |
| shtylman_ | do we have alot to merge? | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhReQgyprLg << Face authentication in kubuntu 10.04 | 15:31 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: not too much now (well lots of wee bits I'm sure) | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | do you think we can get this in mav? | 15:31 |
| Riddell | Sime! long time no irc | 15:31 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I can build and install it in chroot | 15:31 |
| txwikinger | I think the problem might be with my pbuilder.. not sure why though | 15:31 |
| shtylman_ | shadeslayer: is it worth it? | 15:31 |
| Sime | Riddell: oh, Hi. I was on vacation for the last month. | 15:31 |
| shtylman_ | iirc those face things don't work all that well | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman_: well yeah.. i can type faster.... | 15:32 |
| shtylman_ | a picture of the person also works | 15:32 |
| shtylman_ | so it isn't very secure | 15:32 |
| Sime | Riddell: I dropped in to say that I upgraded a couple of machines the other day and except for pulseaudio sneeking in there, it was the smoothest upgrade so far. | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman_: \o/ | 15:32 |
| Sime | Well done to all! | 15:32 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: I dunno if it is on your todo list... but the "install firefox" should probly go | 15:33 |
| shtylman_ | I think we decided that at UDS? | 15:33 |
| shtylman_ | or was there still some contention on that? | 15:33 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: I think that's in the WebBrowser spec | 15:34 |
| shtylman_ | k | 15:34 |
| shtylman_ | coo | 15:34 |
| Riddell | the firefox fanboys weren't around to object though | 15:34 |
| shtylman_ | haha | 15:34 |
| shtylman_ | thats cause they all run chrome now | 15:34 |
| ScottK | Firefox is still the most recognizable brand in FOSS. I think we should keep it. | 15:35 |
| jjesse | at least the installer? | 15:35 |
| shtylman_ | if we keep it... I highly suggest that we do away with the fullscreen ..etc.. and just popup a dialog asking the user to confirm install and then do what it does now with packagekit install | 15:36 |
| shtylman_ | the fullscreen is too much | 15:36 |
| jjesse | i agree | 15:36 |
| shtylman_ | BUT... I would highly recommend removing it as we decided at UDS :) | 15:36 |
| maco | yeah the fullscreen reminds me of those annoying installers on windows that block you from doing your work | 15:46 |
| shtylman_ | indeed...I don't really like it for app installers | 15:50 |
| shtylman_ | for a system installer I could understand... app not so much | 15:50 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I found the problem.. the mirror I used was out of sync :) | 16:01 |
| rgreening | ok, ninjas page for 4.4.80 is updated and ready. | 16:05 |
| rgreening | I'm getting maverick pbuilder ready and I'll look at getting kdelibs going while you are all finishing the merges | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: wheee!!!! thanks :D ... ( i wont be packaging,just that i can expect 4.4.80 soonish ) | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | maybe then i can finally connect to WEP :P | 16:14 |
| rgreening | anyone know a way from within lucid to apt-get a maverick source package? | 16:15 |
| nigelb | rgreening: yes | 16:15 |
| rgreening | nigelb: I tried this: apt-get source kde4libs/maverick but that seems to pull down lucid | 16:16 |
| nigelb | added maverick deb-src line? | 16:16 |
| rgreening | right... forgot to do that | 16:16 |
| rgreening | ty | 16:17 |
| nigelb | :) | 16:17 |
| * Riddell cheers as qtcreator compiles with fancy Qt Quick designer integration | 16:37 | |
| Riddell | takes a full copy of the Qt headers to be included though :( | 16:37 |
| rgreening | heh | 16:38 |
| rgreening | kdelibs 4.4.80 building locally... | 16:39 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: bug #583884 | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 583884 in kaffeine (Ubuntu) "kaffeine 1.0~pre3-3: new changes from Debian (kaffeine_1.0~pre3-3) require merging " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583884 | 16:42 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: lovely, uploading | 16:55 |
| txwikinger | thanks Riddell | 16:55 |
| * ScottK is wrestling with workspace merge | 17:10 | |
| debfx | any idea why some builds failed on amd64 with: | 17:27 |
| debfx | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:27 |
| debfx | kdelibs5-dev: Depends: libkhtml5 (= 4:4.4.3a-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Probably archive skew. | 17:30 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: anything else that needs to be done? | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Is the current kde4libs build and published on amd64? | 17:30 |
| debfx | yes | 17:31 |
| txwikinger | I think all the packages on the merge page are done | 17:31 |
| debfx | ScottK: can you trigger a rebuild? | 17:32 |
| debfx | for example https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-tvprogramme/1.2.0-0ubuntu6 | 17:33 |
| ScottK | debfx: It's built, so it's not simple archive skew. Not sure what's up. | 17:34 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: you coudl check if kdevplatform and kdevelop in debian are up to date and if they need anything done to them (compare to kubuntu-ppa/backports versions) | 17:36 |
| txwikinger | ok will do | 17:36 |
| debfx | ScottK: this has built fine 3 hours ago: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-translatoid/1.12-0ubuntu1/+build/1746421 | 17:37 |
| debfx | so whatever caused the builds to fail seems to be fixed | 17:38 |
| ScottK | At this point in the development cycle transient failures like this aren't rare. | 17:43 |
| debfx | yeah but do the buildds automatically retry failed builds? | 17:57 |
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| shadeslayer | Question for anyone who uploaded the 4.7 packages,are they ok? like any upgrades broken? | 18:02 |
| rgreening | Riddell: where do I get the source for attica? I see it tagged in KDE svn for 0.1.4. but it isn't on ktown. Kdelibs requires it to build | 18:23 |
| rgreening | Riddell: nvm.. found it | 18:25 |
| ScottK | debfx: They don't automatically retry failed builds, so they need to be watched. | 18:28 |
| rgreening | ScottK: for maverick, we allowing .bz2 uploads of sources? | 18:30 |
| * ScottK looks at Riddell. | 18:31 | |
| ScottK | I think we said source format v3 was OK, but don't recall for sure. | 18:31 |
| rgreening | Im just looking at the attica package which is a .bz2 | 18:31 |
| rgreening | looks to have come from debian this way | 18:33 |
| Riddell | yes .bz2 is fine | 18:40 |
| rgreening | Riddell: so, for Kde packages, are we switching to bz2 or continuing with gz? I assume gz for now.. | 18:44 |
| rgreening | if thats what debian does | 18:44 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Stick with Debian for now. | 18:44 |
| Riddell | whatever upstream has | 18:44 |
| rgreening | yeah | 18:44 |
| rgreening | ok | 18:44 |
| Riddell | if upstream has .bz2 we should use that | 18:44 |
| Riddell | we don't share .orig files with Debian for KDE SC | 18:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think for 4.5ish packages that's great. | 18:44 |
| rgreening | well, for 4.4.3 its gz... but Im starting 4.4.80 | 18:45 |
| ScottK | For the 4.4 merge we should stick with tar.gz | 18:45 |
| ScottK | rgreening: I think for 4.4.80, .bz2 is fine. | 18:45 |
| rgreening | so, should we package 4.4.8 as bz2 original packaging? | 18:45 |
| rgreening | ya | 18:45 |
| rgreening | ok | 18:45 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 18:45 |
| ScottK | Debian won't get to a newer upstream than 4.4 until squeeze+1, so we're on our own for 4.5. | 18:46 |
| rgreening | coolios | 18:49 |
| rgreening | ok, attica package, test building now :) | 18:50 |
| * rgreening grumbles at attica | 19:07 | |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: debian just uploaded the new version. It should sync by tomorrow. | 19:20 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: oh... hrmmm... guess I shouldn't worry about it then huh | 19:20 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: yeah, if you need it you could probably slup the package off of incoming.debian.org | 19:20 |
| rgreening | I may upload to ninjas just so I can proceed with kdelibs | 19:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll be back tomorrow night to start helping | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | bbl | 19:22 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: could you please push kdegraphics to bzr? | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, sure | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | if this crappy net connection will let me | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | pushed | 19:25 |
| debfx | thanks | 19:25 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks for reminding me | 19:25 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/kdegraphics/ubuntu/+merge/25796 | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, yes. My mistake there. It should be just replaces, not conflicts | 19:41 |
| debfx | why should it replace them? | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | because data files moved from those libraries to kdegraphics-libs-data in the merge | 19:43 |
| debfx | oh right | 19:43 |
| JontheEchidna | well, if the graphics guys do like they have been doing, we'll have an .so version bump in 4.5 anyways ;) | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | they'll probably never settle for a solid ABI | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | so I've pushed a fix to bzr but I can't upload since the net connection is so crappy here | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll be back Sunday though | 19:55 |
| rgreening | Riddell: is there anything special I need to do when using the bz2 format? | 19:59 |
| ScottK | rgreening: You need to use source format v3. Other than that, no. | 20:02 |
| rgreening | ScottK: by creating debian/source/format and putting 3.0 in it? is that everything? | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: when will 4.4.80 packages be up? | 20:03 |
| rgreening | shadeslayer: not for a couple of days at least | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: well ok... | 20:03 |
| rgreening | shadeslayer: Im working on kdelibs now | 20:03 |
| ScottK | rgreening: IIRC it's 3.0 (quilt). Google will know. | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | i know you guys are hard at work packaging it :P | 20:04 |
| rgreening | ScottK: ? | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yeah its 3.0(quilt) | 20:04 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Put what shadeslayer said, not just 3.0. | 20:04 |
| rgreening | oh, in that format file | 20:04 |
| rgreening | ok | 20:04 |
| ScottK | Yes | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | i had a page bookmarked about this... lemme find it | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 | 20:07 |
| rgreening | this is a pain | 20:08 |
| rgreening | haha | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#Howtoconvertasourcepackage.3F << Shows how to do it :P | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: actually its much more easier onces you learn it :P | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | just dh_make --kde :P | 20:08 |
| rgreening | no, I mean I added that, and the package which debuild -S -sa fine, now does not | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | of course other than that i dont know a thing :P | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | does not what? | 20:09 |
| rgreening | now, does not | 20:09 |
| rgreening | as in 'debuild fails' | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | Hiho | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | oh :) | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: whats the error? | 20:10 |
| rgreening | one of the patchs now fails for some reason | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | cant help there... dont know a thing :P | 20:10 |
| rgreening | wtf... the rej actually was generated and save to the pristine source dir | 20:11 |
| rgreening | oh cr&p | 20:11 |
| rgreening | ScottK, Riddell: not so sure about this deb src 3.0 | 20:12 |
| ScottK | rgreening: It takes a bit of getting used to. | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: you might want to read the wiki first before getting started.. i found that it cleared loads of doubts :P | 20:15 |
| rgreening | yeah. reading it now | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: theres a part about patching too... dont know if itll help | 20:15 |
| * shadeslayer prods HTML5 promo of Lost.... | 20:18 | |
| rgreening | hrmm... Im not liking this so far | 20:20 |
| rgreening | ok, so, do you package with the patches applied or unapplied? Reading through I am confused | 20:28 |
| rgreening | this is going to be a real mess I fear :( | 20:28 |
| rgreening | nvm.. apparantly the system is smart enough to remove the patches if applied already. cool | 20:29 |
| debfx | rgreening: dpkg automatically applies the patches when you build the source package | 20:30 |
| rgreening | debfx: the issue I had was it modified the pristine dir with a reject file, never had that happen before. Anyway, kdelibs is now in source format 3.0... time to build and then upload | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: cool :) | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: oh btw you might see from the output it says, Applying hunk xx ... | 20:40 |
| rgreening | shadeslayer: yeah, had to hit my head against the wall a few times for it to sink in | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | thats the patching part :P | 20:40 |
| rgreening | :) | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: welcome to the 3.0 gang :P | 20:41 |
| rgreening | I thought it was complementing me on my physique :) | 20:41 |
| rgreening | hehe | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: bye.. gtg, exams :P | 20:42 |
| rgreening | kk | 20:43 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: If you want to provide php 5.2, why don't you make it a php5.2 package that conflicts with (and provides) php. That way no pinning is needed. | 20:50 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: Well.. because when I want to eventually upgrade, I can just remove the pinning and don't have to create a new package? | 20:52 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: As you prefer. I'd find installing/removing a single package easier than messing with pinning. | 20:54 |
| txwikinger | well.. it is not a single package | 20:54 |
| txwikinger | it is like almost 20 | 20:54 |
| txwikinger | and the pinning is all in one file | 20:55 |
| txwikinger | and you don't need to mess with it, because I created the pinning declarations :D | 20:55 |
| * txwikinger finds pinning very interesting.. I think you can even downgrade packages by using pinning | 20:56 | |
| txwikinger | and you can use puppet or chef to apply the pinning on a server farm | 20:57 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: as for debian/control in kdebase-runtime, wouldn't it be fine if I just copy & paste the conflicts and replaces lines? | 20:59 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: No. You should understand them and keep what's needed. | 21:02 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Do we wish to bump Qt requirements in kdelibs to 4.7? or leave at 4.6? Just thinking about the phonon/webkit/qt split and whether we want/need to set a minimum bar of 4.7 | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: okay, just wondering whether I should keep conflicts on kdebase-bin-kde3 | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | or replaces on this | 21:05 |
| * ScottK guesses not, but you need to check. | 21:05 | |
| Quintasan | it's the only difference except for version bumps | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | our packages have those conflicts | 21:06 |
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| Quintasan | ScottK: mind reviewing? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/diffs.tar.bz2 | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: is it possible to update to maverick right now? I'd like to test upgrading via KPK if it's even possible | 21:36 |
| rgreening | I've got a ftbfs on new kdelibs 4.4.80 ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/437505/ any suggestions? | 21:42 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I'm unlikely to have time today. | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Okay, I'll just wait for Jonathan to show up | 21:46 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Does kshareddatacache.cpp have #include <pthread.h> | 21:52 |
| * rgreening will check | 21:52 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: It's possible to upgrade, but really not recommended (kernel is in major flux). I'd do it in a VM if at all. | 21:52 |
| rgreening | ScottK: yep | 21:54 |
| * ScottK thinks gcc or eglibc then. Not sure. | 21:55 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: okay, I'll wait some time I guess, I just set up a lucid VM. | 21:55 |
| rgreening | hmmm | 21:56 |
| debfx | rgreening: does it link with -lpthread? | 22:04 |
| rgreening | doesn't look like it appears in the output | 22:07 |
| debfx | then it's a bug in kdelibs | 22:13 |
| debfx | is it linked with --no-add-needed or are you using binutils-gold? | 22:13 |
| rgreening | debfx: I'm running this build in maverick pbuilder | 22:14 |
| rgreening | and I have no idea about no-add-needed | 22:15 |
| debfx | coudl you paste the command that fails? | 22:18 |
| rgreening | fsck fsck fsck | 22:21 |
| rgreening | my terminal locked up | 22:21 |
| rgreening | debfx: I have to restart the build ot get the error again... dang thing locked up | 22:25 |
| debfx | :/ | 22:25 |
| rgreening | ya | 22:29 |
| debfx | something like http://paste.debian.net/74280/ should fix it | 22:37 |
| effie_jayx | hey all, this bug in kubuntu looks like a support request, though I can't mark it as triaged https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/564086 | 22:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 564086 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 9.10 failed to upgrade to 10.04" [Undecided,New] | 22:44 |
| rgreening | debfx: ty. ill try it | 22:52 |
| rgreening | building...lets see what happens | 23:03 |
| rgreening | debfx: it didn't like kdecore in the target line | 23:20 |
| debfx | rgreening: oops, kdecore is defined after the these lines | 23:25 |
| debfx | rgreening: http://paste.debian.net/74282/ | 23:25 |
| lex79 | rgreening: funny with kdelibs beta eh? :D | 23:33 |
| rgreening | ya | 23:37 |
| rgreening | and switching to deb src 3.0 at the same time | 23:38 |
| rgreening | makes for lots of fun | 23:38 |
| rgreening | I just want to get kdelibs done tonight sometime! | 23:39 |
| lex79 | good luck :) | 23:39 |
| rgreening | lex79: want to see if soprano update is available? | 23:39 |
| lex79 | ok | 23:39 |
| rgreening | I see kdelibs may need a newer one | 23:39 |
| lex79 | rgreening: no new version is available for now, the last one is 2.4.3 | 23:41 |
| rgreening | the notes in cmake said I had 2.4.62 and it wanted newer (2.4.63). But it didnt fail on it | 23:41 |
| rgreening | strange | 23:41 |
| lex79 | http://soprano.sourceforge.net/ | 23:41 |
| rgreening | unless it needs a svn snapshot | 23:41 |
| lex79 | do you need a new version then? I can grab from svn if you need | 23:42 |
| lex79 | rgreening: 2.4.63 is in svn, I can do the package and upload to ninja shortly | 23:46 |
| rgreening | awesome | 23:46 |
| rgreening | ty lex | 23:46 |
| rgreening | debfx: that last fix seems to have worked, it past that part at least | 23:55 |
| rgreening | debfx: grr... I spoke too soon... hahaha | 23:57 |
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