[00:37] <BUGabundo_NCIS> nite
[09:17] <BUGabundo_remote> Welcome to Ibiza Summer Time!
[09:25] <alex88> :)
[11:28] <PsYoS> hello
[11:29] <PsYoS> anybody here ?
[11:33] <alex88> hi PsYoS
[11:33] <PsYoS> hello
[11:33] <PsYoS> :)
[11:33] <alex88> :) sup?
[11:34] <BUGabundo_remote> no
[11:35] <alex88> what?
[11:43] <PsYoS> what
[11:43] <PsYoS> ;)
[11:43] <PsYoS> cya
[11:43] <PsYoS> :]
[11:44] <alex88> O.o
[11:44] <alex88> asshole
[11:44] <yofel> o.O
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> !coc | alex88
[11:45] <alex88> ok sorry..
[11:47] <alex88> sipmle question, i'm trying to run dhcpd3 in a script..it says permission denied reading the config file... but i've run as root, and the file is 777,...any clue?
[11:48] <yofel> apparmor maybe?
[11:49] <alex88> basic 10.04 install
[11:49] <alex88> never messed with it..
[11:50] <yofel> oh cool, todays aptitude upgrade gives me: Suggest 372 removals, 23 keeps
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: lOL
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> I had 280MBs of packages
[11:51] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: aptitude *SAFE*80op+
[11:51] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: aptitude *SAFE*-upgrade
[11:51] <yofel> that was 'U' in the curses interface, but yeah, will have to do safe-upgrade for now
[11:52] <arand> removing libc6-i686 can't be a good idea?
[11:54] <yofel> ah, thanks to qt4.7beta1 it wants to remove pretty much my whole kde install ^^
[11:56] <yofel> nice, 508M to download even with safe-upgrade
[11:56] <yofel> too much -dbg stuff installed ^^
[11:57] <arand> Woo, we got history in S-C, nice!
[11:59] <arand> But you can't do anything with the packages from the history interface :(
[12:06] <JontheEchidna> Qt 4.7 was waanting to remove most of my KDE install, now it just wants to remove the pyqt-based stuff
[12:09] <JontheEchidna> oh, and kdebase-workspace
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: I was what!?
[13:13] <yofel> huh?
[13:14] <yofel> BUGabundo_remote: ?
[13:15] <BUGabundo_remote> (2010-05-21 11:51:48) yofel: that was 'U' in the curses interface, but yeah, will have to do safe-upgrade for now
[13:16] <yofel> The 'Suggest 372 removals, 23 keeps' was from pressing 'U' in aptitude-curses
[13:17] <yofel> dunno if that does the same as 'upgrade' or 'full-upgrade' or whatever
[13:35] <BUGabundo_remote> ahh
[13:36] <yofel> I didn't mean U as in u :P
[13:37] <BUGabundo_remote> now I know
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> yofel: once the new python-qt4 publishes, it should fix the "apt-wants-to-remove-all-of-KDE" thing
[13:58] <yofel> ok, thx :)
[16:01]  * BluesKaj looks for a maverick repos ...not real enthusiastic about editing the sources.list and changing lucid to maverick
[16:02] <yofel> only way until alpha1 though
[16:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, i did have it  on my older pc , but I inherited a new desktop , or rather bought it from my daughter, since she went with a laptop exclusively , now that she's gonna be on the road so much.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yofel, are you running maverick ?
[16:05] <arand> BluesKaj: It's quite simple sedding the sources.list really...
[16:05] <yofel> on my eeePC yes
[16:05] <yofel> works fine, but the repos is pretty messed up right now
[16:05] <yofel> you need to be very careful when upgrading
[16:06] <arand> It all depends if one wants to get onto maverick at this stage though...
[16:07] <BluesKaj> which repos should I edit , universe, multiverse etc ?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> arand, so what do you mean sedding ?
[16:10] <arand> BluesKaj: sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list (Only do it if you have a reasonably clean sources.list and it will _overwrite_ it.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ok arand , I'll check my sources list first
[16:15] <arand> BluesKaj: You could do it like so  "sed 's/lucid/maverick/' sources.list > sources.list.mm" and check the result first and then replace with the new .mm.
[16:17] <arand> Or better yet, just cp sources.list sources.list_BAK before you sed it
[16:17] <BluesKaj> right , that's what was going to do, arand
[16:30] <BluesKaj> ok brn
[16:30] <BluesKaj> brb
[16:44] <BluesKaj> arand, sorry i lost that command for sedding the sources list, I guess I didn.t save it properly in my cli commands list file
[16:44] <arand> BluesKaj: sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list (Only do it if you have a reasonably clean sources.list and it will _overwrite_ it.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok arand thanks, I'll be sure to save it this time , but I will be editing some of the ppa sources out first
[16:47] <arand> Yea, most ppas will likely not have maverick stuff.
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ok arand , allseemed to gowell, dolphin had a broken dependency which I fixed with synaptic
[17:33] <arand> Nice, now enjoy the awesomeness hrm*breakage*hrm that is the kat!
[17:39] <BluesKaj> arand, I'm always on the next dev after an official release ...that's the fun of it
[17:39] <arand> True dat, stable is *boooring*
[17:40]  * arand tries ti hide his main Karmic install
[17:40] <luis_lopez> anyone here using kontact?
[17:53]  * patdk-wk wishs he could get 10.04 to be stable :)
[17:53] <BUGabundo_remote> patdk-wk: skip it and jump to 10.10
[17:53] <patdk-wk> hehe :)
[17:53] <patdk-wk> I'm sure I will soon
[17:54] <patdk-wk> really thinking about btrfs seriously
[18:05] <BUGabundo_remote> bbl
[18:13] <mrmcq2u> I noticed that 10.10 packedges are being uploaded to launchpad but "update-manager -d" doesn't seem to do anything anymore
[18:18] <arand> mrmcq2u: It's disabled currently
[18:18] <mrmcq2u> ah
[18:19] <mrmcq2u> that makes sense, when is it enabled do you know?
[18:19] <arand> mrmcq2u: Edit your sources.list if you want to break maverick
[18:19] <mrmcq2u> I love to break things :D
[18:19] <arand> mrmcq2u: Around alpha1 I'd assume, not sure if a specific time is set though
[18:20] <mrmcq2u> cool, thanks for the info
[18:25]  * mrmcq2u goes breaking things
[18:46] <ChaosR> heya guys, for my first noob question in a long time: how do I get my ubuntu to upgrade to maverick? "do-release-upgrade -d" does not work, neither does "update-manager -c -d"
[18:47] <ChaosR> and manually editing my sources.list ought to break some stuff, right?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> since maverick is pre-alpha, yes it will break some stuff
[18:48] <ChaosR> charlie-tca: doesn't it for all releases?
[18:48] <arand> ChaosR: the reason the auto-upgrades are disabled is due to the possiblity of breakage.
[18:49] <charlie-tca> no, for stable releases it does not always break things. since you want maverick this early, editing /etc/sources.list is the only way to upgrade to it at this time.
[18:49] <ChaosR> ah, thanks, didn't know that
[18:49] <arand> Hence, if you really do want to do it, you need to edit sources.list, and make sure you know what you are doing whilst doing so.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> ChaosR,  arand gave me a command for that ,sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list , but make sure make abacup copy first.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> err a backup
[18:51] <ChaosR> I can expect my computer to remain in a somewhat usable state, right? Or are prealphas so buggy that all hell breaks loose. Its almost debian sid, so it should work I guess
[18:52] <arand> Yea, and I'm not sure if I should be handing out that command so generously, at this stage :/
[18:52] <ChaosR> I love the bleeding edge :P
[18:52] <BluesKaj> ok arand , i'll refrain from doing so :)
[18:52] <arand> ChaosR: Expect hell. Be plesantly surprised if not.
[18:53] <BluesKaj> actaully , i'm pleasnatly surprised so far
[18:53] <ChaosR> hmm, then I'm going to wait for the import freeze, per usual
[18:53] <ChaosR> or, not hehe :P
[18:54] <arand> Yea, I've had no issues really so far, but then I'm running it very conservatively in a virtualbox machine, and upgrading very carefully.
[18:55] <ChaosR> heh, I remember the days of debian sid, when the buggy amarok came trough, and corrupted all my mp3s, and the ripping process could be done all over again, haha
[18:55] <arand> But as yo'fel metioned earlier, if you did a aptitude full-upgrade just now, it wanted to remove the whole of KDE...
[18:55] <BluesKaj> well, i have my laptop running lucid atm and I use it for the 'serious' stuff , if you can call it that :)
[18:55] <ChaosR> arand: thats nothing new, hehe
[18:58] <BluesKaj> and kde 4.4.3 seems to be holding up well too
[18:58] <ChaosR> something seems to be blocking my dpkg lock, I wonder who
[18:59] <BluesKaj> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[18:59] <arand> common sense?
[19:00] <arand> :þ
[19:00] <BluesKaj> then, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:00] <ChaosR> BluesKaj: hey, thanks, I should remember that command
[19:00] <BluesKaj> I keep them in a text file
[19:00] <ChaosR> it seems kpackagekit does not follow my pipelining config in /etc/apt
[19:00] <ChaosR> ah well
[19:01] <ChaosR> lets update!
[19:01] <BluesKaj> but it has to be updated a lot lately some commands are old and invalid after 3 or 4 releases
[19:02] <ChaosR> BluesKaj: does it matter if you skip a week?
[19:02] <BluesKaj> not really ...I'm talking about cli commands
[19:02] <ChaosR> ahh
[19:02] <ChaosR> the text file :P
[19:02] <BluesKaj> yup
[19:03] <BluesKaj> i have a short memory so I need references
[19:03] <ChaosR> I was already like "eh? shouldnt apt be able to resolve that?"
[21:35] <BUGabundo> o/
[22:51] <arand> sparc: 742 jobs (three days) o_0