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BUGabundo_remoteWelcome to Ibiza Summer Time!09:17
alex88:)09:25
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PsYoShello11:28
PsYoSanybody here ?11:29
alex88hi PsYoS11:33
PsYoShello11:33
PsYoS:)11:33
alex88:) sup?11:33
BUGabundo_remoteno11:34
alex88what?11:35
PsYoSwhat11:43
PsYoS;)11:43
PsYoScya11:43
PsYoS:]11:43
alex88O.o11:44
alex88asshole11:44
yofelo.O11:44
BUGabundo_remote!coc | alex8811:44
ubottualex88: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .11:44
alex88ok sorry..11:45
alex88sipmle question, i'm trying to run dhcpd3 in a script..it says permission denied reading the config file... but i've run as root, and the file is 777,...any clue?11:47
yofelapparmor maybe?11:48
alex88basic 10.04 install11:49
alex88never messed with it..11:49
yofeloh cool, todays aptitude upgrade gives me: Suggest 372 removals, 23 keeps11:50
BUGabundo_remoteyofel: lOL11:50
BUGabundo_remoteI had 280MBs of packages11:50
BUGabundo_remoteyofel: aptitude *SAFE*80op+11:51
BUGabundo_remoteyofel: aptitude *SAFE*-upgrade11:51
yofelthat was 'U' in the curses interface, but yeah, will have to do safe-upgrade for now11:51
arandremoving libc6-i686 can't be a good idea?11:52
yofelah, thanks to qt4.7beta1 it wants to remove pretty much my whole kde install ^^11:54
yofelnice, 508M to download even with safe-upgrade11:56
yofeltoo much -dbg stuff installed ^^11:56
arandWoo, we got history in S-C, nice!11:57
arandBut you can't do anything with the packages from the history interface :(11:59
JontheEchidnaQt 4.7 was waanting to remove most of my KDE install, now it just wants to remove the pyqt-based stuff12:06
JontheEchidnaoh, and kdebase-workspace12:09
BUGabundo_remoteyofel: I was what!?13:13
yofelhuh?13:13
yofelBUGabundo_remote: ?13:14
BUGabundo_remote(2010-05-21 11:51:48) yofel: that was 'U' in the curses interface, but yeah, will have to do safe-upgrade for now13:15
yofelThe 'Suggest 372 removals, 23 keeps' was from pressing 'U' in aptitude-curses13:16
yofeldunno if that does the same as 'upgrade' or 'full-upgrade' or whatever13:17
BUGabundo_remoteahh13:35
yofelI didn't mean U as in u :P13:36
BUGabundo_remotenow I know13:37
JontheEchidnayofel: once the new python-qt4 publishes, it should fix the "apt-wants-to-remove-all-of-KDE" thing13:57
yofelok, thx :)13:58
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* BluesKaj looks for a maverick repos ...not real enthusiastic about editing the sources.list and changing lucid to maverick16:01
yofelonly way until alpha1 though16:02
BluesKajyeah, i did have it  on my older pc , but I inherited a new desktop , or rather bought it from my daughter, since she went with a laptop exclusively , now that she's gonna be on the road so much.16:04
BluesKajyofel, are you running maverick ?16:05
arandBluesKaj: It's quite simple sedding the sources.list really...16:05
yofelon my eeePC yes16:05
yofelworks fine, but the repos is pretty messed up right now16:05
yofelyou need to be very careful when upgrading16:05
arandIt all depends if one wants to get onto maverick at this stage though...16:06
BluesKajwhich repos should I edit , universe, multiverse etc ?16:07
BluesKajarand, so what do you mean sedding ?16:08
arandBluesKaj: sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list (Only do it if you have a reasonably clean sources.list and it will _overwrite_ it.16:10
BluesKajok arand , I'll check my sources list first16:14
arandBluesKaj: You could do it like so  "sed 's/lucid/maverick/' sources.list > sources.list.mm" and check the result first and then replace with the new .mm.16:15
arandOr better yet, just cp sources.list sources.list_BAK before you sed it16:17
BluesKajright , that's what was going to do, arand16:17
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BluesKajok brn16:30
BluesKajbrb16:30
BluesKajarand, sorry i lost that command for sedding the sources list, I guess I didn.t save it properly in my cli commands list file16:44
arandBluesKaj: sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list (Only do it if you have a reasonably clean sources.list and it will _overwrite_ it.16:44
BluesKajok arand thanks, I'll be sure to save it this time , but I will be editing some of the ppa sources out first16:46
arandYea, most ppas will likely not have maverick stuff.16:47
BluesKajok arand , allseemed to gowell, dolphin had a broken dependency which I fixed with synaptic17:32
arandNice, now enjoy the awesomeness hrm*breakage*hrm that is the kat!17:33
BluesKajarand, I'm always on the next dev after an official release ...that's the fun of it17:39
arandTrue dat, stable is *boooring*17:39
* arand tries ti hide his main Karmic install17:40
luis_lopezanyone here using kontact?17:40
* patdk-wk wishs he could get 10.04 to be stable :)17:53
BUGabundo_remotepatdk-wk: skip it and jump to 10.1017:53
patdk-wkhehe :)17:53
patdk-wkI'm sure I will soon17:53
patdk-wkreally thinking about btrfs seriously17:54
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BUGabundo_remotebbl18:05
mrmcq2uI noticed that 10.10 packedges are being uploaded to launchpad but "update-manager -d" doesn't seem to do anything anymore18:13
arandmrmcq2u: It's disabled currently18:18
mrmcq2uah18:18
mrmcq2uthat makes sense, when is it enabled do you know?18:19
arandmrmcq2u: Edit your sources.list if you want to break maverick18:19
mrmcq2uI love to break things :D18:19
arandmrmcq2u: Around alpha1 I'd assume, not sure if a specific time is set though18:19
mrmcq2ucool, thanks for the info18:20
* mrmcq2u goes breaking things18:25
ChaosRheya guys, for my first noob question in a long time: how do I get my ubuntu to upgrade to maverick? "do-release-upgrade -d" does not work, neither does "update-manager -c -d"18:46
ChaosRand manually editing my sources.list ought to break some stuff, right?18:47
charlie-tcasince maverick is pre-alpha, yes it will break some stuff18:47
ChaosRcharlie-tca: doesn't it for all releases?18:48
arandChaosR: the reason the auto-upgrades are disabled is due to the possiblity of breakage.18:48
charlie-tcano, for stable releases it does not always break things. since you want maverick this early, editing /etc/sources.list is the only way to upgrade to it at this time.18:49
ChaosRah, thanks, didn't know that18:49
arandHence, if you really do want to do it, you need to edit sources.list, and make sure you know what you are doing whilst doing so.18:49
BluesKajChaosR,  arand gave me a command for that ,sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list , but make sure make abacup copy first.18:51
BluesKajerr a backup18:51
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ChaosRI can expect my computer to remain in a somewhat usable state, right? Or are prealphas so buggy that all hell breaks loose. Its almost debian sid, so it should work I guess18:51
arandYea, and I'm not sure if I should be handing out that command so generously, at this stage :/18:52
ChaosRI love the bleeding edge :P18:52
BluesKajok arand , i'll refrain from doing so :)18:52
arandChaosR: Expect hell. Be plesantly surprised if not.18:52
BluesKajactaully , i'm pleasnatly surprised so far18:53
ChaosRhmm, then I'm going to wait for the import freeze, per usual18:53
ChaosRor, not hehe :P18:53
arandYea, I've had no issues really so far, but then I'm running it very conservatively in a virtualbox machine, and upgrading very carefully.18:54
ChaosRheh, I remember the days of debian sid, when the buggy amarok came trough, and corrupted all my mp3s, and the ripping process could be done all over again, haha18:55
arandBut as yo'fel metioned earlier, if you did a aptitude full-upgrade just now, it wanted to remove the whole of KDE...18:55
BluesKajwell, i have my laptop running lucid atm and I use it for the 'serious' stuff , if you can call it that :)18:55
ChaosRarand: thats nothing new, hehe18:55
BluesKajand kde 4.4.3 seems to be holding up well too18:58
ChaosRsomething seems to be blocking my dpkg lock, I wonder who18:58
BluesKajsudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?18:59
arandcommon sense?18:59
arand:รพ19:00
BluesKajthen, sudo dpkg --configure -a19:00
ChaosRBluesKaj: hey, thanks, I should remember that command19:00
BluesKajI keep them in a text file19:00
ChaosRit seems kpackagekit does not follow my pipelining config in /etc/apt19:00
ChaosRah well19:00
ChaosRlets update!19:01
BluesKajbut it has to be updated a lot lately some commands are old and invalid after 3 or 4 releases19:01
ChaosRBluesKaj: does it matter if you skip a week?19:02
BluesKajnot really ...I'm talking about cli commands19:02
ChaosRahh19:02
ChaosRthe text file :P19:02
BluesKajyup19:02
BluesKaji have a short memory so I need references19:03
ChaosRI was already like "eh? shouldnt apt be able to resolve that?"19:03
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