=== AGNTBAB is now known as Agent_Babb [00:58] how do i configure a sound card with ubuntu 8.04? [01:15] * tati says how do i configure a sound card with ubutu 8.04? [01:22] configure? is it detected and installed? [01:33] well, i'm not getting any sound from my speakers, and thought that i had to configure my sound card [01:35] it has been installed === collinp is now known as Hellow === Hellow is now known as collinp [02:41] i'm not getting sound with ubuntu 8.04...how can i fix that? === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [03:28] * tati ask does anyone know how to configure sound with ubuntu 8.04? i'm not getting any sound from my speakers [03:29] tati: Why are you using such an old version? [03:29] i was given this computer and it already had ubuntu on it [03:30] tati: Can you not upgrade? [03:30] would that fix the problem? [03:30] i'm not sure if my sound card is detected... [03:30] tati: ALSA and PuleAudio have come a long way since 2008. [03:31] ok [03:31] tati: But if that doesn't work, you know where to find us [03:32] so, would u happen to know what i could do to find out if my sound card is being detected? [03:33] tati: I can't recall the command off the top of my head, no [03:33] lspci [03:33] I think [03:33] i'll try that [03:34] thanks === SpockVulcan is now known as Apple === mohi_away is now known as mohi1 === mohi_away is now known as mohi1 === tenach_ is now known as tenach [06:34] * tati asks does anyone know how to deal with sound issues using ubuntu 8.04? [06:47] tati: you still there? [06:53] i'm still here [06:55] tati: ok... so, first things first. what colour is the connector in the back of your pc that you've got the speakers connected to? [06:56] green [06:57] ok, have you tried using any other connectors? [06:58] i tried connecting it to the pink and got static and distorted sound [06:58] what's up tati [06:59] tati: yeah, the pink is most likely the mic [06:59] tati: have you got any other sound connectors on there? [06:59] no i don't [07:00] tati: ok. can you please run this command from a terminal [07:00] speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav [07:00] it will just send a test sound [07:00] ok [07:02] there was no sound but this came up on the screen speaker-test 1.0.15 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2.726377 [07:04] tati: ok, do you remember how to take a screenshot of alsamixer & upload it to imgbin? the same thing i got you to do a couple of days ago [07:05] tati: it's just that some of the controls are in the screenshot - http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1646 [07:05] oops, some of the controls *aren't* in the screenshot [07:07] the only that i forgot is how to get alsamixer screenshot on my screen [07:08] tati: ok, open a terminal window then type "alsamixer" (without the quotes) & then press enter [07:09] ok...it came to me right before u typed =) [07:13] :) [07:13] http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1658 [07:15] * kermiac looks [07:17] hmm.. ok, nothing was missing from the original :( [07:18] hmmm.....what should i do... i was trying to detect my sound card earlier but i didn't understand all the things that came up on the screen [07:19] lspci | grep Audio [07:20] that'll give you a cleaner output than before :) [07:20] ddecator: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [07:21] tati: what does "aplay -l" (w/o quotes) in a terminal window give you? [07:22] **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [07:23] hmmm... not "sdlmodem issue" either :( [07:25] tati: can you run alsamixer again pls? The only other thing I can think of is trying to unmute the muted chanel in there, but i don't know if that will help or not [07:25] tati: but it's worth a try [07:25] ok [07:27] tati: ok, when you have alsamixer running in your terminal window press the left arrow key until "Line Jac" is selected (highlighted red) [07:27] tati: then press "m" to unmute. then press the escape key to quit alsamixer [07:27] tati: then please try: speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav [07:28] ok [07:30] still no sound [07:32] this came up on the screen: speaker-test 1.0.15 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2.695879 [07:33] tati: hmm.. your speakers are powered on & the volume is turned up on the actual speakers, right? [07:34] yes [07:34] tati: sorry, I'm running out of ideas... The config may be messed up by the previous owner [07:35] is there any way for me to fix it? [07:36] tati: I highly recommend you downloading the Ubuntu 10.04 cd & trying it. You can boot it as a "live cd" to try it before installing & in that mode it won't overwrite any of your data that is currently stored on your pc [07:36] tati: I'm sorry, there *may* be a way to fix it, but I'm out of ideas [07:38] where would i download it from? [07:38] tati: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download/ [07:38] your sound should work "out of the box" with this updated verion of Ubuntu [07:39] thanks....i came across something else on my screen earlier...i'll show it to you... [07:40] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 012d Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 I/O ports at c800 [size=256] I/O ports at cc40 [size=64] Memory at ffa20400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Memory at ffa20000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [07:41] tati: that's pretty "normal". it's just describing some of the features/settings of your soundcard [07:41] so i shouldn't be worried about the access denied part? [07:43] tati: no, it just means that whatever process was called doesn't have permission to ascertain the "capabilites" of your soundcard. It's nothing to worry about :) [07:44] ok... [07:46] can u explain the live cd option [07:51] tati: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD [07:58] kermiac: thanks.....could u look at another screen shot...i was able to show more controls on it [07:59] tati: ok [08:02] http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1659 [08:24] * kermiac looks at the screenshot [08:25] hmm... you could try muting the "Aux" channel. although this is just a guess [08:25] ok [08:29] kermiac: that didn't work, do u recommend upgrading from the update manager? [08:29] tati: :( [08:30] tati: no, I would suggest you backup any important files & do a fresh install to ensure that there is no configuaration issues from the previous owner [08:32] tati: another option if you want to keep 8.04 would be to file a bug report & then one of the audio devs/triagers would (hopefully) look into it for you [08:32] hmmmm... [08:34] kermiac: do u think i would have printer problems after upgrading? [08:37] Stati: no, Ubuntu 10.04 has the updated version of the hpip app I talked you through installing from source a couple of days ago. you would just need to install it from the "Hplip toolbox" using the Ubuntu software Center in 10.04 [08:38] tati: that would be a *lot* easier than what I talked you through the other day. It's just a matter of a few mouse clicks & entering your password. There is no need to goto the terminal to install this updated version in 10.04 [08:40] is it possible to download and install 10.04 without using a cd? [08:40] tati: do you have a usb key? [08:41] no [08:43] tati: unfortunately you will either need a blank cd or a usb key that you are able to format to be able to install 10.04 [12:44] howdy .. I am on Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS [12:45] and I have a hw raid volume of 9TB available on which I want to create an mount an ext3 filesystem [12:45] (the initial other 2x4.5 fs where created with the installer .. and I am not sure how to do it correctly from the command line) [12:48] what would be the best way to proceed? a url pointer? kinda hard to find a straight foward one :) [12:48] 1/ should I use LVM or not? (the original other fs where made in the installer using LVM) [12:48] 2/ what are the best params for mkfs.ext3 in this context? I want a signle 9TB FS [12:53] in /proc/scsi/scsi my device is visble as: Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: HPT Model: DISK 1-0 Rev: 4.00 [12:55] and I am up to date with the lastest mkfs.ext3 [12:55] pombredanne@deja02:~$ mkfs.ext3 -V [12:55] mke2fs 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008) Using EXT2FS Library version 1.40.8 [12:56] pombreda: for 8.04 you can have a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-ubuntu8.04-with-software-raid1 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing on external or RAID hard disks [12:57] thx, check this phillw :P [12:58] note ubuntu is already installed, not on the hardware raid volumes, on regular disks. i have 27TB on this puppy :P [12:59] that 2nd link is a good resource of where to head for many different scenarios. :-) [13:00] :) [13:00] phillw: would you recommend using LVM or not? once created the fileystem is not meant to grow or change [13:00] growing would require another chassis anyway :D [13:03] pombreda, LVM is good for when scalability is the key [13:04] they just so happen to be also great for full disk encryption too. ;) [13:04] thanks ibuclaw, It's many years since i used RAID ;-) [13:05] ibuclaw: :) no encryption needed there, this is an eopn source code mirror setup [13:05] The only turn off of LVM for me is the sheer number of commands you must memorise. ;) [13:06] ibuclaw: :P not for me then ...actually the raid is managed by 2 highpoint raid cards, the raid 6 arrys shows up as one disk to linux [13:06] and when they go wrong ... they *really* go wrong. (Though nothing that shouldn't be fixable ... unless you execute Y before X) [13:07] would you know how I know which is the /dev/xxx I can use for the kmfs? [13:08] in /proc/scsi/scsi my device is visble as: Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 ... this is only thing I am sure off: this is that thingie [13:08] pombreda, kmfs ? [13:09] sry * mkfs.ext3 [13:09] pombreda, LVM partitions are accessible via /dev/mapper/ [13:09] if that is what you are asking [13:10] sure, but atm this is not an lvm partition, this is not even a partition [13:10] need a partition table setup? [13:10] I know: so much large disks should not be trusted to an apprentice like me :D [13:11] ibuclaw: need a partition table setup? ==> if you say so [13:11] oh, don't leave it up to me to ruin your setup. :þ [13:13] hehe [13:16] so now I have these devices /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdc5 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd1 /dev/sdd2 /dev/sde /dev/sde1 /dev/sde5 : hwo would I know which one is my raid stuff in /proc/scsi/scsi : Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 ? [13:18] pombreda, what does these two commands say: [13:18] sudo fdisk -l [13:18] sudo blkid [13:18] pombreda, http://paste.ubuntu.com [13:18] of course :) [13:18] don't paste the output here... you'll be kicked from the server ;) [13:19] though you may find the output self explanatory that you needn't show and tell. [13:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/437287/ [13:23] Actually, I need to scoot off on a rampage south [13:23] ibuclaw: no pro, thx for the help so far :) [13:23] I can see from the 1st one the two 9tb arrays and the three 1tb disks allright [13:24] still not sure which one is sda and which one is sbd [13:26] well, this may give some indication on locations. (though not much) [13:26] find /sys -name sda [13:26] find /sys -name sdb [13:26] ie I knwo for sure that in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437289/ HPT DISK 1_0 is my new empty array that I want [13:27] running the finds :P [13:27] I have /sys/block/sda and /sys/block/sdb allright [13:28] pombreda, I'd make an educated guess and say: scsi1 == sdb [13:28] as the order of http://paste.ubuntu.com/437289/ [13:29] should mirror the order of http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/ [13:29] fair enough .. I knwo the existing mounted one has LVM volumes and 2 x ext3 4.5TB fs mounted already ... let me see if something in the lvm can help there [13:29] and sdb isn't mentioned in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437287/ [13:29] I need to be sure :P [13:30] good point, ibuclaw [13:30] anyway, you should have all info there to figure it out. [13:30] pombreda, you using GUI to configure / setup ? [13:30] no, cli [13:30] no giu on that beast [13:30] *giu [13:30] ;) [13:31] well, good luck anyway.... [13:31] Bus in 10 minutes. [13:31] it has a high end nvidia with a gig of ram, but that will be for gpu computing only [13:31] /suspend [13:31] ibuclaw: thx ++ [13:32] so I have made good progress thanks to ibuclaw : I know that ny 9tb array in on /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 and i need 4bk block size with ext3 [13:32] now do i need a partitition? [13:33] the message "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. " in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437284/ is kinda scaring the sh*t out of me :D [13:33] * pombreda goes after gparted [13:35] The program 'gparted' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gparted ==> I am amazed that ubuntu knew it was not there :D === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [13:36] shoot: gparted needs a head, a gtk gui :| [14:11] well still not too far atm [14:16] bbiam [14:19] Hi all, I have a problem with installing GRUB, would it be ok to link the relevant Ubuntu help page for reference? [14:21] of course raz_, go ahead and link away (: [14:21] someone will help you for sure [14:22] Thanks! It's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488917 [14:24] as my reply to forestpiskie indicates, I have the menu.lst file (corresponding to grub1?) but I followed the installation process for grub2 [14:26] raz_, is the boot screen displaying for ya??. if yes, is it showing 'grub>' ?? [14:26] yes sir [14:27] I removed the windows partition and simply want to automatically (or otherwise for that matter) to enter ubuntu [14:27] I figured grub didn't recognise the kernal maybe? === Guest90753 is now known as compiledkernel [14:28] i think i had seen this problem before. lemme surf a bit raz_ =] [14:29] Thanks a million mate, take your time. If you need any more info as to my actions ask away [14:29] I need to login as root, but logged in as root I can't access files available to my other user. How do I do it? [14:31] On lucid I'd rather not boot into X11, so I unsintalled gdm, but it still seems to start X for a second (and tells me it didn't start properly). anyone know how to disable X totally from starting at boot? (Without uninstalling it) [14:32] dioltop, get the root by using nautilus and its not really safe to do it [14:32] dioltop: sudo nautilus [14:33] Chesamo, =] [14:33] fatius: sudo apt-get purge xinit (will remove the X initializer) [14:33] wait, but I need to login as root. When logined as another user, I get 'access denied' to mount my usb. I don't want to login as root to avoid this? I can't figure out a way around the mount problem in the normal user.. [14:34] dioltop: do you understand the sudo command? [14:34] I get the feeling I dont === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 [14:34] raz_, http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html [14:34] dioltop: there's only one thing that you _must_ do as root, and that's direct hardware interface. And that's not anything anyone needs to do, ever. [14:35] dioltop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [14:35] identify the boot drives and try them. i think it will help ya =] [14:35] thanks mohi1, i'll check it out shortly! [14:35] ok, well I don't know how to use my usb storage device outside of root, I googled but using root user is the only thing I can purchase with [14:36] dioltop, actually what is your main purpose for being root now?? [14:36] dioltop: sudo mount /dev/usb0 /media/usb0 [14:36] i want to make a usb boot disk [14:37] dioltop, its that you have to mount as Chesamo said [14:37] dioltop: Anything that can be done in root can be done via sudo. sudo gives you temporary root permissions. [14:37] Chesamo: that seems extreme to stop X from starting on boot. I still want to be able to start with xinit (which is the normal way, IRRC), I just don't want it ot start automatically at boot. I'll keep looking [14:37] brb in 10 mins [14:38] fatius: does startx not work when xinit is uninstalled? I've done it once or twice but I've not run without a graphical environment in a while. [14:38] Chesamo: according to man, startx is a frontend for xinit [14:39] Chesamo: ideally, I just want to remove something from init.d to stop it from happening, but tehre is nothing obvious in there. [14:39] fatius: Have you given this a shot? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/prevent-xorg-from-starting-in-linux/ [14:42] fatius: Instead of uninstalling GDM, it just disables it... that may be why it tries to boot right into X [14:43] fatius: Then fails because there's no display manager like XDM or anything [14:45] Chesamo: i'll give it a shot. Seems strange to have to have GDM installed to disable X though. There must be something i'm missing. [14:46] fatius: Well, I think when you uninstall GDM, it changes the X start parameters. If GDM is installed, it uses GDM to start X. If it's not installed, it uses something else. [14:46] "it" being "Ubuntu" [14:47] Chesamo: yeah. but that's what I'm interested in... changing the X start parameters to "don't start, I'll handle it." [14:47] fatius: I wish I knew... startup isn't my strong point, sorry. [14:49] Chesamo: thanks a lot though, it's been very enlightening. [14:49] fatius: No problem. Good luck! [14:58] Chesamo: more info, even after installing gdm, but removing it from init.d (as tehy do in that URL)... something fishy is going on here. [14:58] fatius: Details? [14:59] Chesamo: if i do: "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" and reboot... ubuntu still starts up GDM and gives me the X login screen. [15:00] fatius: Did you try the other terminal method? [15:01] Chesamo: i tried sysv-rc-conf, but it shows that it shouldn't be starting up. [15:01] Chesamo: that's all thoes tools do is remove it from the /etc/rc stuff. [15:07] fatius: That's all I can think of, I'm not sure what else needs to be done. === ok is now known as Guest26799 === Guest26799 is now known as kiobolt [16:09] i have a usb boot disk, how do I boot from it in karmic? [16:09] You can't boot from an OS to a USB drive, since you can't boot from one OS into another (with certain exceptions) [16:10] Can you get into your computer's BIOS? [16:10] I don't know how [16:10] You'll need to. [16:10] Watch when your computer's booting, it should say something like "DEL to enter setup, F8 to enter boot list" [16:11] oh, ok, so in there when I enter boot list I don't see my usb as an available option in the boot order list [16:12] How is your drive formatted? As in, what did you do to make the USB drive a boot disk [16:14] i can't find the instructions I googled [16:14] How is it formatted, ie what filesystem? [16:16] kiobolt: yes, also I need to know what kind of boot disk you created === malev_ is now known as malev [16:25] i used ext.2 and i created eeebuntu boot disk [16:27] kiobolt: What utility or process did you use to create the disk? [16:28] USB Startup Disk Creator [16:48] kiobolt: usb startup disk creator is for making usb boot disks, not for booting from them [16:51] phillw: Yes, I asked what they used to make the disk [16:52] Chesamo: i was replying to (16:09:07) kiobolt: i have a usb boot disk, how do I boot from it in karmic? -- You're question may have appeared while my WiFi was just restting itself :-) [16:52] phillw: I gathered [16:52] sorry for any confusion [16:52] kiobolt: Did you plug in the drive before or after entering the boot disk menu? [17:00] how do i change irc channel in here? lol === compiledkernel is now known as Guest71780 [17:50] i do not know much about sex, this is for beginners right? so how do i do it? [17:50] subway24, well there is a part of the male genitalia called a "penis" and a part of the womanly anatomy called a "vagina" [17:50] sardonyx, and when they touch, jesus blesses you and a stork brings a kid [17:50] i know, but what do you do with it [17:51] sed s/sardonyx/subway24/g [17:51] subway24, dude, you are talking to a /b/tard. if you want to bring the pain, it won't be lulzworthy. try #ubuntu or #windows [17:54] /kick paultag [17:54] drubin, :P [17:54] I would if I had access ;-p [17:54] paultag: How have you been? [17:54] [17:55] drubin, not bad, man. how are you? [17:56] paultag: pretty cool. [17:56] legit [17:56] there. And that, my friends, is how you deal with trolls [17:56] paultag: Nah it is easier to ban them. [17:56] nah [17:56] they keep coming back [17:56] seemed like a good kid [17:57] what is a /b/tard? [17:57] drubin, they live on 4chan /b/ [17:57] drubin, http://boards.4chan.org/b/ [17:58] NSFW! [17:59] wtf [18:02] I am not allowed to read 4chan [18:02] haha === Guest71780 is now known as CK-duped [18:34] I read the backlog and was all "wtf" [18:38] Hi everyone! [18:39] Hi, komputes! [18:39] I have a question concerning duplicating a hard drive without using dd (I don't want to touch the block device layer). [18:42] so from a LiveCD I do "sudo -s ; cp -a /media/internal/* /media/usb" followed by "--root-directory=/media/usb /dev/sdb" to reinstall GRUB/MRB on the second disk. [18:43] err..."grub-install --root-directory=~/usbdrive/ /dev/sdb" [18:45] sheesh..."grub-install --root-directory=/media/usb/ /dev/sdb" [19:26] but grub.cfg still has the internal disk UUID instead of the USB disk UUID. What is the proper way to update grub so that it uses the proper UUID? [19:26] komputes: can you not use /dev/sdb0 instead of the UUID? [19:27] komputes: Because I know you can in fstab, but I don't know about grub.cfg [19:27] Chesamo: there is no sdb- device only sdb [19:27] no sdb0 [19:27] komputes: in any case. /dev/sdb [19:28] I can, but I fail to see how does hardcoding the disk device instead of the partition UUID will help me [19:29] komputes: Maybe I'm not sure what you're asking... I set all of my fstab and grub entries in device paths (/dev/*) instead of UUIDs because it's simpler that way [19:35] Chesamo: I'm asking for the process to copy contents of a disk to another disk and making the second disk bootable. [19:36] komputes: Yes, I can see that. You copied everything over, right? [19:36] using cp -a [19:40] komputes: you did NOT set up GRUB, correct? [19:44] Chesamo: tried to, with "grub-install --root-directory=/media/usb/ /dev/sdb" but grub.cfg still contained the UUID of the old installation [20:17] evening [20:19] evening, hobgoblin [20:19] hi Chesamo [20:20] heya hobgoblin :) [20:20] o/ [20:20] how are you doing? [20:20] pretty good ty [20:20] good to see you after long :) [20:24] oh I am always about - off and on :p [20:26] nigelb: so how have you been then? [20:37] hobgoblin: so far, great :) [20:58] Hey, does anybody in here have the Global Menu applet? [20:59] Des_: problem with it? If you point me to I can try. [21:01] starcraftman: It's not neccessarily a "problem", per se, just me wanting to save space. I want to have that take up my full top panel and still have access to applications menu. In screenshots of this I've seen a little dropdown button next to the global menu that allows access to this. I'm wondering if that's possible. [21:03] Sorry, I have to go a doctor's appointment. I'll ask later. [21:03] well alright [21:11] I presume he is talking about the alternate menu applet [22:29] hey, I'm watching a tv serie, and every 10 min the screen is going black (lock screen), does anyone know how to turn this off? [22:30] Timo_: Turn off your screensaver? [22:30] yup [22:30] got it [22:30] thanks [23:46] Ehhh...... I fixed my other issue but did something REALLY stupid..... [23:47] I accidently deleted my social networking applet in 10.04, any way to get that back? I still have the mail icon, but I don't have the one the is usually next to it, with my name and the speech bubble. It's not in the add to panel menus either. [23:48] And once again I found it immediately..... Sorry. [23:48] Goodbye.