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ccheneyanyone know of a cli tool that can inspect pdfs for what fonts are inside, etc. i remember there being one but can't remember what it is called02:30
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psusiseriously, what the hell is gcc smoking?   warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype... a prototype is EXACTLY what a function declaration is...03:23
temugen104:00
temugenpsusi: What was the actual problem?04:01
temugenthat's not all that uncommon for gcc error messages :P04:01
psusithe problem is that it's complaining about yes being true ;)04:02
psusiwell, DUHHHHHH ;)04:03
temugenah, just a warning message. nice.04:04
psusiyes, but it's warning me about water being wet04:05
psusiand saying that it ISN'T wet, when of course it is04:05
xnoxI've had a similar thing and it went away when i did define POSIX04:05
xnox(long time ago can't remember exact semantics but it was with gcc4.5 snapshot)04:06
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SmSpillazdidrocks: ping05:25
nigelbSmSpillaz: It may take a bit for him to respond.  He's somewhere in EU05:27
RAOFHe usually turns up ~3 hours from now.05:28
Kaleonigelb: he is in France actually05:29
nigelbyea, fits the 'somewhere in eu' ;)05:30
Kaleo:)05:30
SmSpillaznigelb: ah right05:31
SmSpillazwell, I'll be around during EU working hours then05:31
SmSpillazhalf of our developers are in the EU :p05:31
ekoontzanyone worked with graphviz?06:34
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hungerWhich gcc version will maverick use? I read this was going to get decided at UDS but did not find any updates yet.07:42
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pittiGood morning07:46
hungermorning!07:48
RAOFhunger: I believe the answer is 4.5, but don't quote me on that.07:49
RAOFMorning, pitti!07:49
hungerRAOF: Thanks. cpp is still depending on 4.4 though, so maybe not. I'll wait and see.07:50
pittihey RAOF, how are you?07:51
RAOFThankful that it's the weekend ):07:51
RAOF:)07:51
RAOFI've not *quite* managed to recover from UDS yet.  The weekend will allow this.07:53
pittiRAOF: still jetlagged07:53
pitti?07:53
RAOFNo, just a bit sick.07:54
RAOFThe cold weather here hasn't helped much :/07:55
didrocksSmSpillaz: yes? (can you please provide the question in the hilight instead of just "ping"?) thanks :)08:05
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SmSpillazdidrocks: oh ok, sorry (ping pong, then talk is the way I'm used to :p)08:40
didrocksSmSpillaz: no pb, what's up? :)08:40
SmSpillazdidrocks: anyways, question was: in src/window.vala:toggle_window_picker () (for unity) do you think we can put instead of a debug message, something like the vala Xlib bindings equavilent of XInternAtom ("_UNITY_TOGGLE_EXPOSE", true); and XChangeWindowProperty (display, rootwindow, atom, l[1] = false/true) or something of the like?08:42
SmSpillazthat way other window managers like compiz and kwin can just read that property through a plugin (like we do for kde already) and toggle the expose mode for people who use compiz with unity08:43
SmSpillazI can write a patch if you want08:43
didrocksSmSpillaz: not sure if toggle_window_picker doesn't do other checks that the Xlib call doesn't have. In any case, you should ping njpatel next week (he isn't there this week) about it08:45
didrocksSmSpillaz: think also that mutter is used to render the whole unity environment (upanel and launcher), not sure how you want to do that with other WM08:46
SmSpillazdidrocks: it doesn't08:47
SmSpillazdidrocks: I'm not particularly sure how it works, but I can use compiz with the unity shell08:47
didrocksSmSpillaz: hum, so, you have mutter launch, rendering unity by the libunity mutter plugin, and then run compiz in it? tricky :)08:48
SmSpillazafaict (from a quick code once-over) is that the mutter plugin and the unity shell both import libunity and the mutter Unity.global_shell.toggle_window_picker method overload the one in libunity which was originally in window.vala08:50
SmSpillazoh and also afaict by testing, I think unity-launcher automatically launches mutter, but you can kill mutter and launch compiz08:50
didrocksSmSpillaz: ok, I didn't have the time to check that part, only the big picture, if it works this way, that's great ;)08:51
didrocksSmSpillaz: but again, njpatel is the man to ping about that08:51
SmSpillazdidrocks: ok - hopefully njpatel will be good with patches to add that atom set/unset so it can work with other wm's :)08:51
didrocksSmSpillaz: if he does that, I'll update the packaging too :)08:52
nigelbpitti: how to get the output of 'lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA' with command_output.  most of what I try is failing :(08:54
ddecatordidrocks: so far i'm getting glxinfo, dkms status (displays details on graphics driver, thought it might help), and nigel and i are trying to find a way to reduce the lspci -k output to just the video card. anything else you can think of off-hand that might be helpful for clutter?08:57
didrocksddecator: I think that's already a lot in addition to attach_hardwaredinfo() (not sure about the spelling). We will see later if we need other info08:58
ddecatordidrocks: i actually took off attach_hardware because i thought it might be overkill, but i can add it back in if you want08:59
didrocksddecator: I think it's still good if you can add the specific commands first.09:00
RAOFddecator: report['PciDisplay'] = pci_devices(PCI_DISPLAY)09:00
ddecatorRAOF: yah, wasn't sure if that would be useful or not, but i'll add that as well09:01
nigelbRAOF: ah, forgot about that one ;)09:01
RAOFddecator: That's how to get just the lspci info for the display :)09:01
ddecatoroh, does it? o.o09:02
RAOF /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/xserver-xorg-core.py - it contains all of that stuff, just waiting for you :)09:03
ddecatorRAOF: ah, perfect, thanks :)09:03
ddecatorRAOF: yah, that's what i've been looking at, but didn't know what pci_devices gave as output :p09:03
AnAntHello, is notify-osd going to be dropped in meerkat ?09:04
RAOFddecator: That's why you use “ubuntu-bug xorg” to file a test bug on staging :)09:04
ddecatorRAOF: yah, probably should, i've just been using that to file bugs to test my hooks on staging :p09:04
pittinigelb: command_output does not take a shell command, just a normal argv09:40
pittinigelb: you can run ['sh', '-c', 'lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA'] if you want, or do the searching in python09:40
nigelbpitti: hm, ok. ah, searching in python should be better :)09:42
nigelbThank You!09:42
pittinp :)09:42
Davieyping slangasek, Riddell, Hobbsee, pitti, mdz, Keybuk, cjwatson, kees, jdstrand, lool, pgraner: Letting you know of an upload to hardy-proposed fails verification: bug #455873.10:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455873 in apache2 (Ubuntu Hardy) "mod proxy causes duplicate query strings when nocanon option is used" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45587310:15
AnAntHello ?10:15
mdzDaviey: acknowledged, looking10:16
cjwatsonhm, the documentation in StableReleaseUpdates seems overkill to me10:16
cjwatsonI don't think we need to be alerted about regressions that are only in -proposed, not -updates10:16
cjwatsonI wonder if this is wiki drift due to refactoring - I don't remember that it used to say that10:17
mdzcjwatson: I remember it saying that, and thinking it was a bit conservative. I think the rationale had to do with encouraging lots more people to run -proposed, and therefore taking regressions more seriously10:18
cjwatsonthat said, this is not a regression specific to hardy-proposed - the diff doesn't mention dpkg-statoverride anywhere10:18
cjwatsonnor does it touch maintainer scripts at all10:18
* Daviey is still wetting himself :)10:19
cjwatsonin fact the hardy -> hardy-proposed diff doesn't mention statoverride either10:20
cjwatsonlooks like that code should be cut -d' ' -f310:21
cjwatsonfrom the looks of it, it only affects people who've manually set statoverrides10:22
cjwatsonmaverick is unaffected10:23
* cjwatson bisect10:23
cjwatsons10:23
cjwatsonfixed by removal of the broken code in karmic (specifically, Debian package version 2.2.12-1, Debian svn r995).  However, the code in question is for upgrades from apache 2.0 -> 2.2, and dapper had 2.0, so we need to fix it rather than remove it.10:28
cjwatsontherefore I suggest a new -proposed upload adding -d' ' after cut.10:28
* cjwatson goes to summarise in the bug10:28
Davieycjwatson: thanks10:29
sorent/away10:32
sorenWhoops :)10:32
cjwatsonI've also reset the SRU bug in question to verification-needed, based on my analysis10:34
cjwatsonDaviey: thanks for raising this quickly10:34
Davieycjwatson: np.. I'm glad i can relax a bit :).  Are you suggesting it could just be a case of adding a ->-d' '<- ?10:37
cjwatsonyes10:37
cjwatsoncut splits fields on tabs by default, but dpkg-statoverride outputs fields separated by spaces10:38
cjwatsonthe code was apparently never tested (so I feel relatively safe in saying it's rare, but we should still fix it)10:38
Davieycjwatson: wilco, thanks.10:39
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pitticjwatson: so, xorg-server depends on video-all | video-6, the latter is provided by all video drivers; if I seed e. g. -fbdev explicitly, -fbdev should get the corresponding Task: header and due to how task selection works (as discussed yesterday), video-all should not get installed11:13
pitticjwatson: did I understand this correctly?11:13
cjwatsonpitti: I would expect so11:15
pittiok, thanks; then I know why it's not working (Task: header is missing)11:15
gesercould a core-dev please give-back "gir-repository". It FTBFS because it couldn't detect libsoup (the logs doesn't mention why) but it build fine in my pbuilder now (and libsoup got detected). Thanks.12:11
pittigeser: doing, thanks12:11
pittigeser: ah, failed to upload, it needs gir1.0-gtk-2.0_0.6.5-6_i386.deb removed12:20
lifelessev: hey, curious why you need to shut slaves down12:20
evlifeless: thanks for the quick response.  My master plan is roughly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/SharingTestingInfrastructure#Implementation12:21
pittigeser: seems we're still ahead of debian there; http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44773564/gir-repository_0.6.5-5ubuntu1_0.6.5-5ubuntu2.diff.gz needs to be reapplied apparently12:21
lifeless\o/ code I wrote :P12:22
geserpitti: saw it, will prepare it for upload.12:22
pittigeser: cheers!12:22
evlifeless: I'm debating if that's really necessary, and if I can get away with just leaving the live environment running and carefully cleaning up after each run of the installer.12:22
lifelessby live environment, you mean the pxe boot ?12:23
evindeed12:23
lifelessso a couple of thoughts12:24
lifelesshave a look at my platform node labeller plugin12:24
Redache.112:24
lifeless'platformlabeler' in plugins/12:24
evwill do12:25
lifelessyou could tie the jobs to the builds inside the PXE environment with alabel12:25
lifelessusing a plugin like platformlabeler to set an appropriate label when the slave comes up12:25
lifelessand if you listen to jobs *finishing*, removing the label after the test on it.12:25
lifelessor perhaps more simply, just reboot the darn slave to the ready-to-start mode after the job running on the pxe-booted mode completes.12:26
lifelessthough you'd want to test/time that finely to make sure another job didn't start - I kind of like the idea of removing the label before another job can be scheduled.12:26
lifelessthere are a lot of parallels with this and a cloud environment too, except that you don't want to run arbitrary tests on a node, just the latest sikuli stuff12:27
lifelesspossibly worth sketching it out on the list - kohusake is very smart and knows the scope of hudson really well (apologies if you did this on the -user list -> I'm not on that one)12:28
evthe problem I've had with labels is that they're a "select one from this set" operation rather than a "give me everything", the latter of which I'd prefer for the ability to run across multiple machines in the datacenter to find hardware specific issues12:28
evthat is, I haven't found a way to target a job to a label and have it run on every slave in that label12:29
evnoted on elaborating more on what I'm trying to do on the list, and no, I didn't post to -user first.12:30
lifelessmatrix build12:30
lifelesstheres also a dude posted to the list in the last week about running a job on every element of a label12:31
evoh cool, I'll dig that up12:31
lifelessbut definitely check out the matrix build plugin if you haven't12:31
lifelessit may not be -quite- what you want, but its close - and his change is probably right on the money12:32
evI have -- when I selected the label it only went to the first node.  Looking on the list showed a mail confirming that behavior as by design, but I've long since lost the URL.12:32
lifelessI wish I'd gotten to your session @ UDS :)12:32
evlifeless: indeed, you're experience with this would've been quite helpful.  Still, this a massive hand and is putting me on a much better track than the head smashing I was doing last night.  Thanks!12:33
lifelessif you can't find that guy I'm mentioning, ping me via email and I12:34
lifeless'll hunt it up monday12:34
evwill do12:34
lifelessworst case we write a little tweak to the matrix build plugin to do 'for each'12:34
lifelessrather than 'first of'12:34
lifelessthat would be oh, 1 hour or so, including getting it upstream.12:34
evcool!  I'm definitely liking how willing upstream is to accept such changes.12:35
lifelesshave I mentioned how much I like SSD's ?12:35
evheh12:35
lifelesssvn on an SSD is almost not painful.12:35
TerminXhm, software-center package is missing dep on python-debian12:37
gesercould a core-dev please give back: neon27 libgdata libgnomeprintui. Thanks.13:02
micahgpersia: ping13:09
* persia prefers contentful pints13:09
persiapings too :)13:09
gesernice typo13:10
micahgpersia: heh, could you approve my mail to devel-permissions?  just saw that it never hit the list13:10
persiaI don't believe I'm a listadmin for that list.  I'll double check.13:10
cjwatsonI can13:11
cjwatson(done)013:11
persiaThanks cjwatson13:12
micahgcjwatson: thanks13:12
micahgI hope it's not too late :(13:12
pitticjwatson: will you ping me when I shall flush the work items for foundations? we'll flush it for desktop now, and did for security yesterday13:15
jdstrandpitti: hey, what is your plan with psql? is it on us to publish or do you want it to sit in -proposed?13:16
pittijdstrand: I'm fine with getting it published; no upstream regression reports so far, and we both tested with p-common13:17
jdstrandpitti: I verified it in qrt (and therefore the postgreql-common testsuite)13:17
jdstrandpitti: cool, thanks13:17
pittithanks to you13:17
jdstrand:)13:19
cjwatsonpitti: yes - we're getting there but still more to do (I'm on my 5th spec of 5, if I'm counting properly)13:20
pitticjwatson: ok, just give the word13:20
geserdoes somebody know if new package in Debian got already synced to maverick?13:23
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cjwatsonnot across the board, sorry13:24
Davieygeser: you can use rmadison to check.. rmadison $PACKAGE, will check ubuntu version; rmadison -uqa $PACKAGE will check debian's13:25
didrockspitti: I'm still unsure, do we do manual sync with your script or should we open a bug?13:26
Laneythere was a thread on -devel13:26
pittididrocks: so am I; I have used my script for years without problems, but you should still be cautious13:26
Laneybut no AAs have replied as of yet13:27
pittiBenjamin Drung has a greatly improved version now13:27
didrockspitti: I've used it some times too, but not sure about the "policy", ok, let's use it so :)13:27
didrocksthanks13:27
pittiin essence, it produces the same output as the LP one13:27
pittibut it doesn't check e. g. the blacklist13:27
geserDaviey: "new" as in not yet in maverick at all. so either the script to import NEW source packages from Debian didn't get run either yet or some other reason why the package did got synced to maverick yet.13:28
pittigeser: probably the former13:28
didrockspitti: oh ok, I guess we know ourself if it's blacklisted or not if we keep our packages :)13:28
DavieyIs the blacklist somewhere we can query?13:30
geserdidrocks: or we ask bdrung politely to add support for the sync-blacklist13:30
geserDaviey: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt13:30
Davieyooo13:30
pittithe blacklist is mostly interesting for autosyncs, but it might help to avoid accidents13:31
didrocksgeser: sure, is bdrung's version packaged somewhere? I don't see it13:31
pittiit's in bzr so far13:31
geserdidrocks: lp:ubuntu-dev-tools only at the moment13:32
cjwatsonwhile I haven't got round to doing it en masse yet (which is always a pain to start off with because we have to make sure we aren't reintroducing things that were removed but accidentally not blacklisted), I'm happy to sync new packages on request13:33
didrocksgeser: ok, thanks :)13:34
cjwatsonLaney: are you looking for this pile of haskell stuff to be synced, perchance?13:34
gesercjwatson: through bugs as usual?13:34
cjwatsongeser: just tell me on irc13:34
Laneycjwatson: What pile of stuff? autosync candidates?13:34
cjwatsonautosyncs are already happening13:34
LaneyDunno what you're referring to13:34
cjwatsonI mean new source that isn't yet in Ubuntu13:34
cjwatsonbut that's in Debian unstable13:35
Laneynot especially, as long as it happens at some point13:35
Laneyif I get blocked I'll let you know though13:35
cjwatson$ new-source | grep haskell | xargs13:35
cjwatsonhaskell-bzlib haskell-cautious-file haskell-data-accessor haskell-datetime haskell-deepseq haskell-event-list haskell-explicit-exception haskell-fastcgi haskell-feed haskell-filemanip haskell-filestore haskell-ghc-mtl haskell-harp haskell-haxr haskell-hint haskell-hjavascript haskell-hscurses haskell-hstringtemplate haskell-hxt haskell-llvm haskell-markov-chain haskell-maybet haskell-midi haskell-mmap0.4 ...13:35
cjwatson... haskell-monoid-transformer haskell-network-bytestring haskell-non-negative haskell-platform haskell-qio haskell-recaptcha haskell-sdl haskell-sdl-gfx haskell-sdl-image haskell-sdl-mixer haskell-sdl-ttf haskell-sha haskell-split haskell-tar haskell-text haskell-transformers haskell-type-level haskell-url haskell-utility-ht13:35
cjwatsonguess I can lob that in now, doesn't look like any of it's been in Ubuntu before13:35
Laneyshouldn't have13:36
Laneybeen13:36
* Laney kicks brain13:36
gesercould a core-dev please give back: neon27 libgdata libgnomeprintui. Thanks.13:37
seb128geser, doing13:39
cjwatsongeser: done13:39
seb128too late :p13:39
seb128cjwatson, thanks ;-)13:39
* cjwatson looks at the output of "m `new-source`" and once again defers most of this to another day :-/13:41
cjwatson("which of these new packages from unstable has been in Ubuntu before?)13:42
cjwatson"13:42
Laneycan't you tally with the removals log? (is there such a thing?)13:42
cjwatsoncould an archive admin other than me process dpkg in NEW?13:42
cjwatsonLaney: yes, but the above is a lot quicker to run :-)13:42
cjwatsonthere's no single removals log but removals go in the publication history for each package in LP13:42
seb128cjwatson, looking13:43
Laneyright, that would be some LP API fun then13:43
seb128cjwatson, being curious there but how come you have a libdpkg.a but no libdpkg.so?13:52
seb128seems unusual13:53
seb128is the .a useful for something?13:53
cjwatsonseb128: at the moment it's a volatile API, but it's exposed as a static library for now to start getting a feel for how people want to use it13:55
cjwatsonseb128: once it's stable it'll become a .so13:55
seb128cjwatson, ok, thanks, binaries newed now13:55
cjwatsonand hopefully eventually it'll be usable by frontends like apt13:56
cjwatsonthanks13:56
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qenseKubuntu people: <http://www.canonical.com/logos> still shows the old Kubuntu logo.14:12
Riddellqense: I've notified the web master14:14
qenseRiddell: OK, thanks!14:14
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bguptaIs there any plans to patch mysql for the following advisory: http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2010/1137 looks fairly serious to the point that remote unauthenticated folks can exploit..15:56
bguptaalso is this the right channel to ask about such things?15:58
arandbgupta: Report a bug if it doesn't already exist, mark as security issue, refer to the CVE, look for a fix to SRU...16:01
arandbgupta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures?action=show&redirect=SecurityUpdateProcedures is a good reference.16:02
SpamapSbgupta: http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2010/119216:10
SpamapSoops16:10
bguptanice.16:10
SpamapSwrong url. ;)16:11
bguptano worries16:11
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keesdoko: hm, glibc jaunty armel ftbfs due to extra _passed_ tests, I think.  should I adjust the expected test results, or what do you think?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/2.9-4ubuntu6.1/+build/119839017:08
dokokees: no17:13
dokoEncountered regressions that don't match expected failures:17:13
dokotest-fenv.out, Error 117:13
keesdoko: hmpf, I wonder what changed in armel between ubuntu6 and ubuntu6.1.  the actual patch in -updates is minimal.17:21
ogra_cmpcthe buildds17:22
dokoif you don't succeed, blame the buildds ;)17:23
smoserjames_w, thank you for suggesting editmoin.  it improves working with wiki17:34
james_wcool17:34
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subway24My name is Jim Colensworth and my 13 year old son Brandon is obsessed with Linux, i mean REALLY obsessed. he just got the new version of ubuntu and he is shouting out loud about how good it runs, even though we are not well off, our family prays to bill gates, he is our family's idol. my wife loves him almost as much as she loves me! so how do i get my son to stop using linux?17:48
subway24i like microsoft, but im using my sons computer for this17:48
SpamapSsubway24: You should just yell at him and take linux away.17:50
subway24but we do not like to discipline him17:50
* SpamapS secretly hopes the kid decides to move in with a reasonable uncle or something17:50
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subway24his uncle is in prison17:51
SpamapShmm... prison or parents who like windows.. which one is worse... tough call17:51
subway24lol17:52
subway24seriously, what should we do17:52
subway24i need help17:53
charlie-tcaswitch the whole family to ubuntu, quickly as possible17:53
subway24but my wife is in love with bill gates! we all want to know how to make money like he does, so we buy windows products17:54
charlie-tcadoesn't matter17:54
charlie-tcaYou can still throw the money away on windows products17:54
subway24but its a good use for the money17:56
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subway24hes screaming at me now!!!! i took his linux away\18:04
mneptoksubway24: your conversation is offtopic for this channel. please use #ubuntu-offtopic, and trolling there is not welcome.18:04
keespitti: wait, why aren't we just fixing the kernel for lucid with bug 539467?18:14
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/539467)18:14
SpamapSso I found this awful upstream that only publishes .src.rpms for their releases.. but its fairly easy to extract the tarball inside... is there a way to write a watch file that can look for a .src.rpm and run alien --to-tgz on it?18:16
SpamapSeven better... they haven't even bothered to modify their COPYING file properly..18:18
SpamapS    <program>  Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>18:18
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tsimpsonSpamapS: not really, you'd need to create a rule in debian/rules, your best option is to bug the upstream not to do evil18:32
SpamapStsimpson: ah that makes sense. I think I'll take door #2. :)18:35
olvsis there a ubuntu hardware/performance cannel?19:02
olvschannel19:02
janeNarakhello, i'm customize install cd, i'm add extra package  phpmyadmin and cacti, but dbconfig cannot connect mysql-server, because mysql-server not running. how to add phpmyadmin, cacti in customize install cdrom?19:04
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rahulattuluriHi Im a computer science student and a ubuntu user as of know I wish to develop ubuntu.I would like to have one mentor to guide me can any one guide me??19:11
arandrahulattuluri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Contributor I'm not sure how much of it still applies though... :/19:13
rahulattuluriarand,Thanks19:14
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asachmm. one question: what type of script is ok for the upstart .conf script part?19:17
asacis there a way to say which shell to use?19:18
smoserasac, there is not. /bin/sh with '-e' is used.19:18
asachmm19:18
smoserit is somewhat easily worked around if you wanted to do something else though:19:18
smoserexec /usr/bin/perl <<EOF19:18
smoser# perl here19:19
smoserEOF19:19
asacheh19:19
asacdoes it escape/evaluate anything in the script block?19:19
asacor is it all put unmodified in there?19:19
smoseri believe the man page discusses that19:19
asacwhich manpage? the ones i am looking at are not really content ful ;)19:20
smoserman 5 init19:20
smoserexec gets escaped19:21
smoserscript does not19:21
asackk19:23
ogra_cmpcasac, or try man Keybuk :)19:23
asacany idea if i could spawn exec two processes and upstart still tracks them (not sure what tracking for upstart means though)19:23
asactwo processes from one .conf ;)19:24
ogra_cmpcasac, if you use respawn the respawn applies to the whole script part afaik19:25
asacogra_cmpc: thats what i am not sure about ... what happens if i spawn some process, then exec another ;)?19:26
ogra_cmpchmm ...19:26
ogra_cmpcif you do it inside one script piece i wuld expect upstart to care for both19:27
ogra_cmpci guess its something to test out19:27
ogra_cmpcor man Keybuk as i said before :)19:27
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nxvli remember there was a send2debian script, is that correct or am i missremembering?21:36
nxvli remember soren did it21:36
micahgnxvl: submittodebian?21:40
nxvlmicahg: that one, thanks you!21:40
ccheneysomeone sent me a crash file instead of using apport to report it, what do you use to process the crash reports directly?21:50
Davieyccheney: Have you tried double clicking it?21:52
ccheneyit appears to be base64 encoded but base64 doesn't seem to like it21:52
ccheneyDaviey, oh not yet, heh21:52
Daviey:)21:52
ccheneycool it turns it into a proper apport crash report :)21:54
Davieyccheney: \o/21:54
ccheneyDaviey, thanks for the tip, i wonder why it didn't prompt the user to do that automatically21:55
Davieyccheney: you can use apport to do it on the command line, but double clicking is easier to remember :)21:55
ccheneyyea21:55
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