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ubottuIn ubottu, eddvrs said: !weather is usually rubbish in England00:02
funkyHatheh00:21
Seeker`rgreening: can we help you?02:06
FlannelLovely.04:47
FlannelAgu10 has been spoken to about his choice of nicks04:51
Flannelubottu: tell bobbarker about nickspam06:35
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)08:07
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16))10:24
androidO/10:49
androidI wish there was quassel for this phone, but this client isnt too bad...10:53
gordusing andchat? that works pretty well11:05
androidGord yup.11:10
androidGord still havent figured out tab complete on it yet though...11:11
gordandroid, erm, you start typing someone's name, it adds the peoples names in the chat to the global dictionary autocomplete thing11:12
elkyandroid, you should have a 'tab' key on the virtual keyboard at least iirc11:16
elkyHrm, You know what's sad? When you can look at the IP of the ban ubottu is reminding you about, and you know exactly who and where.11:17
androidVirtual keyboard pish11:17
androidelky: ahh found it11:18
elkyandroid, yeah, you have to tap shift or ctrl or something to get the other half of the useful keyboardness11:18
androidIts the search key that acts like a tab key11:18
elkythat's weird. maybe they changed the keyboard between v1.6 and vWhatever11:19
androidPerhaps...11:19
elkyor i'm thinking of the linux virt keyboard on these craptastic kludgy tablet things11:20
androidLol, maybe11:20
* elky loads up the handy one to check11:20
androidMind, im loving this milestone, just awesome11:21
* jpds wonders if android is paranoid.11:21
elkythere's apparently an app called parandroid11:21
elkygpg sms iirc11:21
jussilol11:21
elkythis really isn't the channel for this discussion though11:22
gordbacta in #u-desktop11:33
gordtrolling about window controlls11:33
jussioh dear11:37
tsimpsonhe's quieted11:39
jussiprobably saw us all join... :P11:42
elkymarienz, ^^11:43
elkyand there we are, he's in -women11:44
Tm_Toh boy...12:03
ubottuIn #ubuntu, aks_ said: ubottu  this is a very long and complicated proces...pls tell some easy process12:15
rgreeningmorning jussi12:59
jussimorning rgreening13:00
knomehey jussi13:02
IdleOnesometimes I wish we could just remote desktop and fix users issues for/with them14:22
bazhanghah14:22
knomeo'rly ...14:22
bazhangis vikas for real?14:23
knomeprobably14:23
knomei once told an american guy how to edit a text file14:23
knometook me 6 hours to go through14:23
bazhanghe has pastespammed multiple channels multiple times14:23
knomewell, once he learns how to use pastebin, i think it's gonna be fine14:23
tsimpsonjust a fyi, I've put "compbot" in #ubuntu and #kubuntu to test some supybot memory usage14:25
bazhangthanks!14:25
tsimpsonit should be silent and not interfere with ubottu14:25
* IdleOne refrains from abusing compbot14:28
IdleOneknome: you experiencing diffculty getting your suggestions implemented by a user also?14:29
bazhangwow nasty hostname14:30
knomeIdleOne, of course ;)14:30
IdleOneat work we use pcanywhere user calls " I can't do this!" I connect and do it. WOW your a genius!14:30
knomeyeah14:30
IdleOneuser doesn't learn anything but then again they aren't meant to14:30
knomeguess why i have three vnc bookmarks for the pc's of my family14:31
IdleOnecompany does not want the user to learn, they just want us to fix the issue and let them go back to selling hammers and screws or whatever heh14:31
knometrue14:31
knomewhy would they want to use time+money to educate their employees14:32
knomeif it's not defined in the law14:32
jussilol14:32
IdleOnewell we do tech support for hardware stores14:32
IdleOnethe company doesn't need IT experts selling hardware14:33
IdleOneheh14:33
IdleOneguess that is why I have a job14:33
knome;]14:33
jussiJust FYI: We are gradually moving bot requests over to #ubuntu-bots-team, so if directing people please point to there. We will still take requests in #ubuntu-irc, but eventually we would like all requests to go to -bots-team.14:39
jussiand for all of you who missed it: http://tsimpson.ubottu.com/blog/archives/714:39
macobazhang: shmatak looks problematic14:46
maco1. the ident is "holyshit"14:46
maco2. "pederasi" sounds to me like "pederast" which means "pedophile"14:46
bazhangmaco, check the mafioaa87 one14:46
macough14:47
knometsimpson,     *14:47
knomeWith this new layout we hope to firstly reduce the load on ubottu, and also make it clearer exactly which bot should be in which channels which channels.14:47
knome"which channels which channels"14:48
jussiknome: his word press has been evil to him...14:48
bazhangwow banlist is full14:48
tsimpsonwhich witch is which?14:48
bazhang#ubuntu14:49
jussibazhang: I delegate you to fix it :P :P14:49
bazhangok :)14:49
tsimpsonyou may want to attempt to clear out the stale +e's14:50
IdleOnewhy don't the floodbots remove all those bans?14:50
jussibecause they are evil...14:51
bazhangthe floodbot redirects to #ubuntu-read-topic ?14:51
jussibazhang: get rid if they are older than 2 weeks.14:52
bazhang [MaFiOtA_1987 very objectionable mask14:53
bazhangjussi, okay14:53
bazhangonly two from two weeks ago.  many from a week ago.14:56
bazhangnot sure what you mean by the exceptions, however14:58
tsimpsonthe +e list is the ban exception list, it overrides a +b or +q14:58
tsimpsonI'd say a week is old enough to remove them14:59
bazhangnot seeing them however15:00
tsimpsonyou need to be +o to and use '/mode e' to see the list15:01
bazhangthanks15:02
bazhanghuge list15:04
bazhangwhoops that did not seem to work15:05
bazhangbazhang removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users15:07
bazhangthere must be some easier way of doing this (correctly, that is)15:09
IdleOneewww xchat should really format /mode e a little nicer15:13
bazhangso the only way to do this is /mode #ubuntu -b fullstring here?15:15
bazhangthose who are in the know please share to us untutored masses15:15
bazhang-e ?15:17
tsimpsonbazhang: -e, not -b15:18
tsimpsonyou can give up to 4 modes at a time though15:18
bazhangtsimpson, so /mode #ubuntu -e fullstringhere?15:18
tsimpsonyeah, or /mode -eeee first second third forth15:18
bazhange.g. scyo1234~webgateway.etc.etc.15:19
tsimpsonyep, the full mask15:19
bazhangokay, trying again15:19
tsimpsonthat's the reason the ban list seems to fill up, all those +e's count towards the total15:20
bazhangso does it need to be done individually, or can I just lump them all together and do it in one shot15:22
tsimpsonyou can do 4 at a time, per /mode command15:23
Tm_Tbazhang: max four can be in one shot15:23
bazhangso /mode #ubuntu -eeee fourfullstringshere15:23
Tm_Tseparated with space15:23
tsimpson/mode -eeee first second third forth15:24
bazhangthanks15:24
tsimpsonbtw, you won't flood the channel. only those with +o can see +/-e changes15:24
IdleOnebazhang: want I should start at the bottom of the list?15:25
IdleOneso we can clear it faster15:25
bazhangIdleOne, that's where I am :)15:25
tsimpsonthe ones at the top should be the newest15:26
bazhangjust cleared buntu15:26
IdleOneok well here, copy a paste a chunk to me and I will do them15:26
IdleOneor never mind15:27
IdleOnesince you did it15:27
bazhangis that sufficient? just removed twenty or so15:32
tsimpsonshould last for a little while at least15:46
tsimpsonthe floodbots should warn when we are getting low (experimental) and when full15:47
bazhangI'll be happy to do more; say the next 50%?15:47
tsimpsonI'd say remove up-to and including "nixbox!~816ef208@gateway/web/freenode/x-jviffnnfkuhopzjj hubbard.freenode.net 1274314920" (the last netsplit)15:50
bazhangthanks much tsimpson15:50
IdleOne HDBanger (~HDBanger@c-24-245-37-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu ("Lick the stank.")16:05
IdleOneyuck ^^16:05
ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: puregnome is If you want to remove all !KDE packages in Lucid 10.04 and previous Ubuntu versions, go to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome16:22
IdleOnethe psychocats link removes more packages then the one in the !puregnome factoid does right now. it also has the commands to remove xubuntu and links for older versions.16:33
IdleOnewith Drgrov just now in #ubuntu he was stuck with the kubuntu shutdown and logon splash images. psychocats takes care of those from the get16:34
IdleOneSo anyway I think an edit to the factoid is necessary16:36
IdleOne:)16:36
jussi!puregnome16:47
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal16:47
jussihram, we used to have the psychocats link... I wonder what the reasoning to change it was16:48
IdleOnenot sure but seems to me if we can have a user resolve his issue in one shot that is better then having him come back and ask a second question about the same issue16:49
jussiIdleOne: feel like putting that info onto an ubuntu wiki page somewhere?16:49
IdleOnewhich info ?16:49
jussiId rather link to w.u.c than psycho cats16:49
IdleOnesure16:49
IdleOnegimme a little bit I'll link you when done16:50
jussi:)16:50
bazhangkeep an eye on jungli, he was trolling elsewhere earlier16:54
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, bilalakhtar said: ubottu is the best! ubottu is the best! she knows ubuntu! she uses ubuntu! she is controlled by jussi! she is hosted by some Rackspace! 3 cheers to UBOTTU!16:55
knomeugh16:56
IdleOneuhh, how do I insert a command into a box like on the psychocats link?16:58
IdleOneon the wiki that is16:58
IdleOneor in the wiki16:59
bazhangthe factoid edit?16:59
IdleOneyes17:00
jussiIdleOne: I used to know, but I cant remember :P goo look at another wiki page with it?17:00
IdleOne:P17:00
IdleOneI was hopping you wouldn't say that17:01
jussiie. click edit and see how they did it?17:01
* IdleOne does his homework17:01
bazhangyikes that usb factoid refers to feisty17:02
jussibazhang: o.O which one?17:05
bazhangthe !usb one jussi17:05
jussi!usb17:05
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:05
bazhangtrying to find a more recent one on the web now17:06
IdleOnejussi:  not pretty but does the job. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/puregnome  if anybody wants to clean it up and adda Table to it, be my guest :)17:28
IdleOneoh I should add credit to psychocats?17:32
Mamaroksorry, connection is a bit shakey17:44
* IdleOne grabs Mamarok and holds her still17:49
Tm_Ttroll in -devel17:49
Tm_Tcharlie-tca: I'm not sure if playing with trolls helps alot but... (:17:56
charlie-tcaThinking you are right17:57
* charlie-tca could not resist the 'throw the money away' thing anyway17:57
mneptokcharlie-tca: please do not feed trolls in channels where you have no access.18:06
charlie-tcaokay18:06
mneptokif it escalates because of your actions, what will you do?18:06
Tm_Tactually I think the rule of thumb is "do not feed the trolls" anyway18:07
* mneptok nods18:07
charlie-tcavaluable point. Thank you for the reminder18:07
nigelbCan someone look at #ubuntu-devel, somone suspect to be trolling..18:07
Tm_Tnigelb: we are at it18:07
bazhangsubway24?18:07
* Tm_T assumes mneptok has access there18:07
nigelbyep18:07
nigelbthank you :)18:08
mneptokTm_T: i do.18:08
bazhangarand mentioned it a bit ago18:08
jordy240dmsuperman is trolling in offtopic and is not getting banned/kicked18:08
Tm_TI actually asked Spama.. not to feed that one so18:08
bazhangjordy240, how so18:08
jordy240troll18:09
bazhangjordy240, the ops are in that channel already18:09
jordy240......ok18:09
jordy240good to hear?18:09
bazhangyep18:09
IdleOneguess dms forgot about !enter18:11
IdleOneWhy is it we have to continue warning him on a daily basis and nothing gets done about him?18:14
bazhangdmsuperman?18:14
IdleOneyeah18:15
IdleOnehe does this Holier then thou thing everyday18:16
IdleOneif you disagree with anything he says then we are the arses18:16
IdleOneand he knows all18:16
mneptokmaybe he knows where my car keys are.18:16
mneptok'cause i sure don't.18:17
IdleOneask him18:17
IdleOneI'm sure he will potificate on the subject18:17
IdleOnepontificate*18:17
mneptoki'd rather just walk everywhere.18:17
ubottuIn ubottu, Daekdroom said: br is Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.19:21
IdleOne!br19:23
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.19:23
ubottuIn ubottu, guntbert said: !hi is <sed> / Feel/ This is a support channel. Feel/19:53
guntberthi, I'm aware that ubottu is probably in non-support channels too - so my proposal would not make much sense there - is it possible to limit the factoid to only support channel?19:57
guntbertchannels19:57
IdleOneguntbert: I believe they can make the factoid channel specific19:59
IdleOnewith the same trigger in diff channels it will display diff factoid19:59
IdleOneI think :/20:00
guntbertIdleOne: yes, that would mean to create one for every support channel - but maybe there is some shortcut :-)20:00
IdleOneguntbert: who ever approves the factoid edits probably will be able to figure that all out20:01
jussiguntbert: yeah, its a bit hard currently20:01
guntbertjussi: I was afraid of that - but I really think that not mentioning "support" in !hi leaves room for misinterpretations20:02
jussiguntbert: I think it might be nice to implement groups of channel specific factiods, but we have much more pressing things at the moment20:02
IdleOneI think -ops needs a coffee and donut fund20:04
guntbertjussi: fair enough - I'll leave it to you then - btw ubottu's new home seems to have done wonders for her health :-)20:04
jussiguntbert: if youve python experience we could always use more contributors ;)20:04
jussiIdleOne: lol20:04
IdleOne:)20:05
guntbertjussi: no, sorry, but that could be a reason to acquire them :-)20:05
jussiguntbert: if you are interested, you can come join us in #ubuntu-bots-devel20:05
* guntbert hands around a tray with espresso20:05
IdleOnethanks I'll take two20:05
jussi!cookie | IdleOne20:06
ubottuIdleOne: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:06
IdleOnejussi: I know you are a busy person. Did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/puregnome and please offer any suggestions/changes20:06
IdleOneohh espresso and cookie :)20:06
guntbertjussi: thanks for the invitation - before that I'll have a good look at the language though - although they say that the n-th language comes a lot easier :-)20:07
IdleOneguntbert: thinkpython.com20:07
IdleOnethat should get you hacking in no time :)20:07
jussiguntbert: tsimpsonis really helpful and will answer any questions you have if he can. there is also myself m4v and a few others20:07
IdleOneI should look at that link myself20:08
jussiIdleOne: o.O that seems a bit over the top no?20:08
IdleOnewhat does?20:08
guntbertIdleOne: thx - reading , jussi: thx to you too20:08
jussithe insstructions in the link...20:08
jussiguntbert: laters!20:09
IdleOnejussi: there is no nicer way I could find to display the commands20:09
IdleOnethat is why I said earlier of someone knows how to clean that up20:09
jussiIdleOne: why not use xfce-* etc...20:09
jussi?20:09
IdleOneall I did was copy the instructions. I did not write them20:10
IdleOnedon't know if using wildcard would change the outcome20:10
* jussi would like a few more opinions on this.20:11
IdleOnelike I said i would appreciate if anybody could clean it up and make it more friendly looking20:11
jussiin any case, I got to go...20:13
IdleOnelater20:13
androidBwahahahah20:19
androidI'm back :D20:20
androidThis phone rocks :D20:22
IdleOnelol20:33
mneptokandroid: you rang earlier?20:43
Tm_Tmneptok: no, you cannot ring with android21:04
ubottuIn ubottu, LjL said: !no antivirus is <reply> Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using !Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus and http://librenix.com/?inode=2121:43
ubottuIn ubottu, LjL said: !no virus is <alias> antivirus21:43
ubottuIn ubottu, LjL said: !no linuxvirus is <alias> antivirus21:43
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (hello-everybody has been told not to advertize his silly channel before)21:43
* tonyyarusso is thinking "FotherMucker" isn't an appropriate nick, in line with our "obfuscated swearing is still swearing" stance - anyone care to offer a second opinion?22:46
IdleOneagreed22:46
IdleOneI think he needs to be asked to change nick or leave the channel22:47
IdleOneproblem solved22:48
InsertNameHereHello powers23:04
InsertNameHereI have come here to seek answers23:05
IdleOnehello InsertNameHere, how can we help you?23:05
InsertNameHereI was wondering why swearing is tolerated in some ubuntu rooms, but not in others?23:05
InsertNameHereI mean surely people who discover IRC are mature enough.23:05
IdleOnethe rooms it is tolerated in are not official ubuntu channels23:05
InsertNameHereAh, that makes sense.23:06
IdleOneso the club you are talking about...not ubuntu related23:06
InsertNameHere##club-ubuntu?23:06
IdleOnewouldn't know and please don't advertise other channel names23:06
InsertNameHereOh, I'm sorry.23:07
mneptokthat channel is not an official Ubuntu channel23:07
InsertNameHereI'm kinda new to all this.23:07
InsertNameHereThank you oh wise ones.23:07
InsertNameHereFor your guidance.23:07
IdleOneInsertNameHere:23:07
* InsertNameHere bows out23:07
IdleOneyour welcome23:07
IdleOnehave a good day23:07
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
Madpilothmm, interesting that FotherMucker changed his/her/its name to InsertNameHere before coming here, then changed it back after they left this channel23:42
IdleOneI just asked him to part ubuntu channels with that nick and he did right away without issue23:43
Madpilotah, good23:43
IdleOnewe had also asked him in -ot before he came here and he did change it then also without issue23:44
Madpilotmissed that in -ot, I'm on and off the kb this afternoon23:44
IdleOneI think it was more just a "oops I forgot I was in there" thing23:44
Madpilotdifferent nicks depending on which channel they're in? OK, if that's working for them...23:45
IdleOnewould be interresting if you could do that on irc23:45
IdleOnediff nick for diff channel on same network23:45
IdleOneimagine being an op then heh23:46
Madpilotoh boy, the trolls would love that one23:46
IdleOnewell bans would be global in that case I think23:46
IdleOnehmm no that wouldn't work either23:47
Madpilotanyway, just be thankful IRC doesn't work that way :)23:47
IdleOneyup23:47
Madpilotmust go do real-world bumpf before the bank closes. later.23:47
IdleOneI got a slight headache just from thinking about the logistics for one minute23:47
Madpilotheh23:47

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