[00:21] <funkyHat> heh
[02:06] <Seeker`> rgreening: can we help you?
[04:47] <Flannel> Lovely.
[04:51] <Flannel> Agu10 has been spoken to about his choice of nicks
[06:35] <Flannel> ubottu: tell bobbarker about nickspam
[10:49] <android> O/
[10:53] <android> I wish there was quassel for this phone, but this client isnt too bad...
[11:05] <gord> using andchat? that works pretty well
[11:10] <android> Gord yup.
[11:11] <android> Gord still havent figured out tab complete on it yet though...
[11:12] <gord> android, erm, you start typing someone's name, it adds the peoples names in the chat to the global dictionary autocomplete thing
[11:16] <elky> android, you should have a 'tab' key on the virtual keyboard at least iirc
[11:17] <elky> Hrm, You know what's sad? When you can look at the IP of the ban ubottu is reminding you about, and you know exactly who and where.
[11:17] <android> Virtual keyboard pish
[11:18] <android> elky: ahh found it
[11:18] <elky> android, yeah, you have to tap shift or ctrl or something to get the other half of the useful keyboardness
[11:18] <android> Its the search key that acts like a tab key
[11:19] <elky> that's weird. maybe they changed the keyboard between v1.6 and vWhatever
[11:19] <android> Perhaps...
[11:20] <elky> or i'm thinking of the linux virt keyboard on these craptastic kludgy tablet things
[11:20] <android> Lol, maybe
[11:20]  * elky loads up the handy one to check
[11:21] <android> Mind, im loving this milestone, just awesome
[11:21]  * jpds wonders if android is paranoid.
[11:21] <elky> there's apparently an app called parandroid
[11:21] <elky> gpg sms iirc
[11:21] <jussi> lol
[11:22] <elky> this really isn't the channel for this discussion though
[11:33] <gord> bacta in #u-desktop
[11:33] <gord> trolling about window controlls
[11:37] <jussi> oh dear
[11:39] <tsimpson> he's quieted
[11:42] <jussi> probably saw us all join... :P
[11:43] <elky> marienz, ^^
[11:44] <elky> and there we are, he's in -women
[12:03] <Tm_T> oh boy...
[12:59] <rgreening> morning jussi
[13:00] <jussi> morning rgreening
[13:02] <knome> hey jussi
[14:22] <IdleOne> sometimes I wish we could just remote desktop and fix users issues for/with them
[14:22] <bazhang> hah
[14:22] <knome> o'rly ...
[14:23] <bazhang> is vikas for real?
[14:23] <knome> probably
[14:23] <knome> i once told an american guy how to edit a text file
[14:23] <knome> took me 6 hours to go through
[14:23] <bazhang> he has pastespammed multiple channels multiple times
[14:23] <knome> well, once he learns how to use pastebin, i think it's gonna be fine
[14:25] <tsimpson> just a fyi, I've put "compbot" in #ubuntu and #kubuntu to test some supybot memory usage
[14:25] <bazhang> thanks!
[14:25] <tsimpson> it should be silent and not interfere with ubottu
[14:28]  * IdleOne refrains from abusing compbot
[14:29] <IdleOne> knome: you experiencing diffculty getting your suggestions implemented by a user also?
[14:30] <bazhang> wow nasty hostname
[14:30] <knome> IdleOne, of course ;)
[14:30] <IdleOne> at work we use pcanywhere user calls " I can't do this!" I connect and do it. WOW your a genius!
[14:30] <knome> yeah
[14:30] <IdleOne> user doesn't learn anything but then again they aren't meant to
[14:31] <knome> guess why i have three vnc bookmarks for the pc's of my family
[14:31] <IdleOne> company does not want the user to learn, they just want us to fix the issue and let them go back to selling hammers and screws or whatever heh
[14:31] <knome> true
[14:32] <knome> why would they want to use time+money to educate their employees
[14:32] <knome> if it's not defined in the law
[14:32] <jussi> lol
[14:32] <IdleOne> well we do tech support for hardware stores
[14:33] <IdleOne> the company doesn't need IT experts selling hardware
[14:33] <IdleOne> heh
[14:33] <IdleOne> guess that is why I have a job
[14:33] <knome> ;]
[14:39] <jussi> Just FYI: We are gradually moving bot requests over to #ubuntu-bots-team, so if directing people please point to there. We will still take requests in #ubuntu-irc, but eventually we would like all requests to go to -bots-team.
[14:39] <jussi> and for all of you who missed it: http://tsimpson.ubottu.com/blog/archives/7
[14:46] <maco> bazhang: shmatak looks problematic
[14:46] <maco> 1. the ident is "holyshit"
[14:46] <maco> 2. "pederasi" sounds to me like "pederast" which means "pedophile"
[14:46] <bazhang> maco, check the mafioaa87 one
[14:47] <maco> ugh
[14:47] <knome> tsimpson,     *
[14:47] <knome> With this new layout we hope to firstly reduce the load on ubottu, and also make it clearer exactly which bot should be in which channels which channels.
[14:48] <knome> "which channels which channels"
[14:48] <jussi> knome: his word press has been evil to him...
[14:48] <bazhang> wow banlist is full
[14:48] <tsimpson> which witch is which?
[14:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu
[14:49] <jussi> bazhang: I delegate you to fix it :P :P
[14:49] <bazhang> ok :)
[14:50] <tsimpson> you may want to attempt to clear out the stale +e's
[14:50] <IdleOne> why don't the floodbots remove all those bans?
[14:51] <jussi> because they are evil...
[14:51] <bazhang> the floodbot redirects to #ubuntu-read-topic ?
[14:52] <jussi> bazhang: get rid if they are older than 2 weeks.
[14:53] <bazhang>  [MaFiOtA_1987 very objectionable mask
[14:53] <bazhang> jussi, okay
[14:56] <bazhang> only two from two weeks ago.  many from a week ago.
[14:58] <bazhang> not sure what you mean by the exceptions, however
[14:58] <tsimpson> the +e list is the ban exception list, it overrides a +b or +q
[14:59] <tsimpson> I'd say a week is old enough to remove them
[15:00] <bazhang> not seeing them however
[15:01] <tsimpson> you need to be +o to and use '/mode e' to see the list
[15:02] <bazhang> thanks
[15:04] <bazhang> huge list
[15:05] <bazhang> whoops that did not seem to work
[15:07] <bazhang> bazhang removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users
[15:09] <bazhang> there must be some easier way of doing this (correctly, that is)
[15:13] <IdleOne> ewww xchat should really format /mode e a little nicer
[15:15] <bazhang> so the only way to do this is /mode #ubuntu -b fullstring here?
[15:15] <bazhang> those who are in the know please share to us untutored masses
[15:17] <bazhang> -e ?
[15:18] <tsimpson> bazhang: -e, not -b
[15:18] <tsimpson> you can give up to 4 modes at a time though
[15:18] <bazhang> tsimpson, so /mode #ubuntu -e fullstringhere?
[15:18] <tsimpson> yeah, or /mode -eeee first second third forth
[15:19] <bazhang> e.g. scyo1234~webgateway.etc.etc.
[15:19] <tsimpson> yep, the full mask
[15:19] <bazhang> okay, trying again
[15:20] <tsimpson> that's the reason the ban list seems to fill up, all those +e's count towards the total
[15:22] <bazhang> so does it need to be done individually, or can I just lump them all together and do it in one shot
[15:23] <tsimpson> you can do 4 at a time, per /mode command
[15:23] <Tm_T> bazhang: max four can be in one shot
[15:23] <bazhang> so /mode #ubuntu -eeee fourfullstringshere
[15:23] <Tm_T> separated with space
[15:24] <tsimpson> /mode -eeee first second third forth
[15:24] <bazhang> thanks
[15:24] <tsimpson> btw, you won't flood the channel. only those with +o can see +/-e changes
[15:25] <IdleOne> bazhang: want I should start at the bottom of the list?
[15:25] <IdleOne> so we can clear it faster
[15:25] <bazhang> IdleOne, that's where I am :)
[15:26] <tsimpson> the ones at the top should be the newest
[15:26] <bazhang> just cleared buntu
[15:26] <IdleOne> ok well here, copy a paste a chunk to me and I will do them
[15:27] <IdleOne> or never mind
[15:27] <IdleOne> since you did it
[15:32] <bazhang> is that sufficient? just removed twenty or so
[15:46] <tsimpson> should last for a little while at least
[15:47] <tsimpson> the floodbots should warn when we are getting low (experimental) and when full
[15:47] <bazhang> I'll be happy to do more; say the next 50%?
[15:50] <tsimpson> I'd say remove up-to and including "nixbox!~816ef208@gateway/web/freenode/x-jviffnnfkuhopzjj hubbard.freenode.net 1274314920" (the last netsplit)
[15:50] <bazhang> thanks much tsimpson
[16:05] <IdleOne>  HDBanger (~HDBanger@c-24-245-37-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu ("Lick the stank.")
[16:05] <IdleOne> yuck ^^
[16:33] <IdleOne> the psychocats link removes more packages then the one in the !puregnome factoid does right now. it also has the commands to remove xubuntu and links for older versions.
[16:34] <IdleOne> with Drgrov just now in #ubuntu he was stuck with the kubuntu shutdown and logon splash images. psychocats takes care of those from the get
[16:36] <IdleOne> So anyway I think an edit to the factoid is necessary
[16:36] <IdleOne> :)
[16:47] <jussi> !puregnome
[16:48] <jussi> hram, we used to have the psychocats link... I wonder what the reasoning to change it was
[16:49] <IdleOne> not sure but seems to me if we can have a user resolve his issue in one shot that is better then having him come back and ask a second question about the same issue
[16:49] <jussi> IdleOne: feel like putting that info onto an ubuntu wiki page somewhere?
[16:49] <IdleOne> which info ?
[16:49] <jussi> Id rather link to w.u.c than psycho cats
[16:49] <IdleOne> sure
[16:50] <IdleOne> gimme a little bit I'll link you when done
[16:50] <jussi> :)
[16:54] <bazhang> keep an eye on jungli, he was trolling elsewhere earlier
[16:56] <knome> ugh
[16:58] <IdleOne> uhh, how do I insert a command into a box like on the psychocats link?
[16:58] <IdleOne> on the wiki that is
[16:59] <IdleOne> or in the wiki
[16:59] <bazhang> the factoid edit?
[17:00] <IdleOne> yes
[17:00] <jussi> IdleOne: I used to know, but I cant remember :P goo look at another wiki page with it?
[17:00] <IdleOne> :P
[17:01] <IdleOne> I was hopping you wouldn't say that
[17:01] <jussi> ie. click edit and see how they did it?
[17:01]  * IdleOne does his homework
[17:02] <bazhang> yikes that usb factoid refers to feisty
[17:05] <jussi> bazhang: o.O which one?
[17:05] <bazhang> the !usb one jussi
[17:05] <jussi> !usb
[17:06] <bazhang> trying to find a more recent one on the web now
[17:28] <IdleOne> jussi:  not pretty but does the job. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/puregnome  if anybody wants to clean it up and adda Table to it, be my guest :)
[17:32] <IdleOne> oh I should add credit to psychocats?
[17:44] <Mamarok> sorry, connection is a bit shakey
[17:49]  * IdleOne grabs Mamarok and holds her still
[17:49] <Tm_T> troll in -devel
[17:56] <Tm_T> charlie-tca: I'm not sure if playing with trolls helps alot but... (:
[17:57] <charlie-tca> Thinking you are right
[17:57]  * charlie-tca could not resist the 'throw the money away' thing anyway
[18:06] <mneptok> charlie-tca: please do not feed trolls in channels where you have no access.
[18:06] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:06] <mneptok> if it escalates because of your actions, what will you do?
[18:07] <Tm_T> actually I think the rule of thumb is "do not feed the trolls" anyway
[18:07]  * mneptok nods
[18:07] <charlie-tca> valuable point. Thank you for the reminder
[18:07] <nigelb> Can someone look at #ubuntu-devel, somone suspect to be trolling..
[18:07] <Tm_T> nigelb: we are at it
[18:07] <bazhang> subway24?
[18:07]  * Tm_T assumes mneptok has access there
[18:07] <nigelb> yep
[18:08] <nigelb> thank you :)
[18:08] <mneptok> Tm_T: i do.
[18:08] <bazhang> arand mentioned it a bit ago
[18:08] <jordy240> dmsuperman is trolling in offtopic and is not getting banned/kicked
[18:08] <Tm_T> I actually asked Spama.. not to feed that one so
[18:08] <bazhang> jordy240, how so
[18:09] <jordy240> troll
[18:09] <bazhang> jordy240, the ops are in that channel already
[18:09] <jordy240> ......ok
[18:09] <jordy240> good to hear?
[18:09] <bazhang> yep
[18:11] <IdleOne> guess dms forgot about !enter
[18:14] <IdleOne> Why is it we have to continue warning him on a daily basis and nothing gets done about him?
[18:14] <bazhang> dmsuperman?
[18:15] <IdleOne> yeah
[18:16] <IdleOne> he does this Holier then thou thing everyday
[18:16] <IdleOne> if you disagree with anything he says then we are the arses
[18:16] <IdleOne> and he knows all
[18:16] <mneptok> maybe he knows where my car keys are.
[18:17] <mneptok> 'cause i sure don't.
[18:17] <IdleOne> ask him
[18:17] <IdleOne> I'm sure he will potificate on the subject
[18:17] <IdleOne> pontificate*
[18:17] <mneptok> i'd rather just walk everywhere.
[19:23] <IdleOne> !br
[19:57] <guntbert> hi, I'm aware that ubottu is probably in non-support channels too - so my proposal would not make much sense there - is it possible to limit the factoid to only support channel?
[19:57] <guntbert> channels
[19:59] <IdleOne> guntbert: I believe they can make the factoid channel specific
[19:59] <IdleOne> with the same trigger in diff channels it will display diff factoid
[20:00] <IdleOne> I think :/
[20:00] <guntbert> IdleOne: yes, that would mean to create one for every support channel - but maybe there is some shortcut :-)
[20:01] <IdleOne> guntbert: who ever approves the factoid edits probably will be able to figure that all out
[20:01] <jussi> guntbert: yeah, its a bit hard currently
[20:02] <guntbert> jussi: I was afraid of that - but I really think that not mentioning "support" in !hi leaves room for misinterpretations
[20:02] <jussi> guntbert: I think it might be nice to implement groups of channel specific factiods, but we have much more pressing things at the moment
[20:04] <IdleOne> I think -ops needs a coffee and donut fund
[20:04] <guntbert> jussi: fair enough - I'll leave it to you then - btw ubottu's new home seems to have done wonders for her health :-)
[20:04] <jussi> guntbert: if youve python experience we could always use more contributors ;)
[20:04] <jussi> IdleOne: lol
[20:05] <IdleOne> :)
[20:05] <guntbert> jussi: no, sorry, but that could be a reason to acquire them :-)
[20:05] <jussi> guntbert: if you are interested, you can come join us in #ubuntu-bots-devel
[20:05]  * guntbert hands around a tray with espresso
[20:05] <IdleOne> thanks I'll take two
[20:06] <jussi> !cookie | IdleOne
[20:06] <IdleOne> jussi: I know you are a busy person. Did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/puregnome and please offer any suggestions/changes
[20:06] <IdleOne> ohh espresso and cookie :)
[20:07] <guntbert> jussi: thanks for the invitation - before that I'll have a good look at the language though - although they say that the n-th language comes a lot easier :-)
[20:07] <IdleOne> guntbert: thinkpython.com
[20:07] <IdleOne> that should get you hacking in no time :)
[20:07] <jussi> guntbert: tsimpsonis really helpful and will answer any questions you have if he can. there is also myself m4v and a few others
[20:08] <IdleOne> I should look at that link myself
[20:08] <jussi> IdleOne: o.O that seems a bit over the top no?
[20:08] <IdleOne> what does?
[20:08] <guntbert> IdleOne: thx - reading , jussi: thx to you too
[20:08] <jussi> the insstructions in the link...
[20:09] <jussi> guntbert: laters!
[20:09] <IdleOne> jussi: there is no nicer way I could find to display the commands
[20:09] <IdleOne> that is why I said earlier of someone knows how to clean that up
[20:09] <jussi> IdleOne: why not use xfce-* etc...
[20:09] <jussi> ?
[20:10] <IdleOne> all I did was copy the instructions. I did not write them
[20:10] <IdleOne> don't know if using wildcard would change the outcome
[20:11]  * jussi would like a few more opinions on this.
[20:11] <IdleOne> like I said i would appreciate if anybody could clean it up and make it more friendly looking
[20:13] <jussi> in any case, I got to go...
[20:13] <IdleOne> later
[20:19] <android> Bwahahahah
[20:20] <android> I'm back :D
[20:22] <android> This phone rocks :D
[20:33] <IdleOne> lol
[20:43] <mneptok> android: you rang earlier?
[21:04] <Tm_T> mneptok: no, you cannot ring with android
[22:46]  * tonyyarusso is thinking "FotherMucker" isn't an appropriate nick, in line with our "obfuscated swearing is still swearing" stance - anyone care to offer a second opinion?
[22:46] <IdleOne> agreed
[22:47] <IdleOne> I think he needs to be asked to change nick or leave the channel
[22:48] <IdleOne> problem solved
[23:04] <InsertNameHere> Hello powers
[23:05] <InsertNameHere> I have come here to seek answers
[23:05] <IdleOne> hello InsertNameHere, how can we help you?
[23:05] <InsertNameHere> I was wondering why swearing is tolerated in some ubuntu rooms, but not in others?
[23:05] <InsertNameHere> I mean surely people who discover IRC are mature enough.
[23:05] <IdleOne> the rooms it is tolerated in are not official ubuntu channels
[23:06] <InsertNameHere> Ah, that makes sense.
[23:06] <IdleOne> so the club you are talking about...not ubuntu related
[23:06] <InsertNameHere> ##club-ubuntu?
[23:06] <IdleOne> wouldn't know and please don't advertise other channel names
[23:07] <InsertNameHere> Oh, I'm sorry.
[23:07] <mneptok> that channel is not an official Ubuntu channel
[23:07] <InsertNameHere> I'm kinda new to all this.
[23:07] <InsertNameHere> Thank you oh wise ones.
[23:07] <InsertNameHere> For your guidance.
[23:07] <IdleOne> InsertNameHere:
[23:07]  * InsertNameHere bows out
[23:07] <IdleOne> your welcome
[23:07] <IdleOne> have a good day
[23:42] <Madpilot> hmm, interesting that FotherMucker changed his/her/its name to InsertNameHere before coming here, then changed it back after they left this channel
[23:43] <IdleOne> I just asked him to part ubuntu channels with that nick and he did right away without issue
[23:43] <Madpilot> ah, good
[23:44] <IdleOne> we had also asked him in -ot before he came here and he did change it then also without issue
[23:44] <Madpilot> missed that in -ot, I'm on and off the kb this afternoon
[23:44] <IdleOne> I think it was more just a "oops I forgot I was in there" thing
[23:45] <Madpilot> different nicks depending on which channel they're in? OK, if that's working for them...
[23:45] <IdleOne> would be interresting if you could do that on irc
[23:45] <IdleOne> diff nick for diff channel on same network
[23:46] <IdleOne> imagine being an op then heh
[23:46] <Madpilot> oh boy, the trolls would love that one
[23:46] <IdleOne> well bans would be global in that case I think
[23:47] <IdleOne> hmm no that wouldn't work either
[23:47] <Madpilot> anyway, just be thankful IRC doesn't work that way :)
[23:47] <IdleOne> yup
[23:47] <Madpilot> must go do real-world bumpf before the bank closes. later.
[23:47] <IdleOne> I got a slight headache just from thinking about the logistics for one minute
[23:47] <Madpilot> heh