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Bernardogood morning05:34
RAOFOoh.  xserver 1.8.1+git.  Now with 35.7% less DRI2 craziness!05:40
hyperaireh? DRI2's getting removed?05:41
hyperairwhy?05:41
RAOFNot removed, fixed.05:41
hyperairoh05:42
hyperairO_o05:42
hyperairwhat was broken with it?05:42
RAOFYou know that “xserver crashes whenever you close a clutter app” bug that got fixed with a patch that caused the GEM leak?  The work upstream to fix it has gone through a number of iterations, most of which broke something in DRI2 at some point.05:43
hyperairum no i don't know that bug.05:43
Bernardothe one that almost delayed lucid release?05:58
RAOFRight.06:00
tjaaltonhttp://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/versions-current.html06:02
tjaaltonyess, we are done :)06:02
RAOFHurray!06:03
* Bernardo wonders if he'll have the time this weekend to try and trace meego's psb drivers06:06
Bernardobbl06:48
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asacRAOF: hey11:19
asacRAOF: you might have met alf__ at UDS; he is helping on our graphics story for embedded ...11:20
asacRAOF: from what i understand from chatting here yesterday with jcristau and Sarvatt you appear to plan working on making egl/gles packages available for mesa?11:21
asacRAOF: could you share your ideas/progress etc. on that with me and alf__ ? thanks a bunch11:21
RAOFasac, alf__: So, there are two separate egl/gles stacks in mesa at the moment; classic mesa and gallium.11:23
RAOFThe classic mesa has dri, glx, and dri2 egl backends, so should be usable on random desktop hardware.11:25
asacRAOF: oh.... so what is gallium about ;)? (guess you are still typing)11:25
RAOFI haven't yet played with the gallium egl/es stack.  It's likely to not work well on intel, but nouveau has gallium drivers, and the radeon gallium driver is getting better than the classic mesa driver.11:26
asachmm. 11:27
asacRAOF: is it possible to package both up?11:27
asacor do we need to decide?11:27
RAOFYes, it should be possible to package both.11:27
asacRAOF: nice. are you planning on working on that?11:28
RAOFYes.  If you want it faster, I can prioritise.  So far I've just run it past the debian guys and poked around the mesa tree.11:29
asacwe somewhat need to get a clutter gles out asap ... wonder if there is anything else blocking a first iteration11:29
alf__RAOF: Will there be any conflicts if both the classic and gallium stacks are present on the system? Eg does one have to explicitly choose?11:29
RAOFYou do have to choose which driver you're using, yes.11:30
asacRAOF: we want it fast, because we just dont know what happens and if that is good enough to start seriously checking drivers and clutter for unity11:30
asacand we want to give vendors and unity folks something to play with in order to get the embedded experience out.11:31
RAOFOk.  I'll get that done Monday.11:31
asacwow11:31
asacthats amazing11:31
asacRAOF: do you see anything else we might need to do to do a clutter gles?11:31
RAOFPerhaps I should backpedal somewhat - I'll get mesa building the appropriate libs Monday.  No guarantees it'll be in the archive yet :)11:32
* asac hugs RAOF 11:32
asacRAOF: thats fine. if you get the package in a ppa that would be good enough. we want to play with lucid for now i guess11:32
RAOFWhen I tried to build the egl backend previously all I noticed that we were missing was egl.11:33
asacbut we can backport if mesa hasnt moved away too much 11:33
asacRAOF: hmm. isnt that in mesa itself?11:34
RAOFYes, but we don't build that at the moment.11:35
RAOFYou want to play on Lucid; is there any reason why I shouldn't be working on Maverick's mesa, giving it a bit of a test in lucid, and then pushing it to a lucid PPA?11:37
jcristausigh closed ubuntu-x list.11:37
RAOFIs that the level of support that you need in Lucid?11:37
RAOFjcristau: Yeah, it still bites me - always a game of “which one of my email addresses is subscibed there?”11:38
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asacRAOF: sure. go for mesa+maverick14:42
asacjust would love if it doesnt cause too much pain to get for lucid ;)14:42
Sarvattasac: need to package the proprietary libgles/egl with -dev packages for it for one thing if you actually want 3D :)15:55
SarvattRAOF: meego is shipping libegl/libegl-devel in mesa btw if it helps too look at their packages16:31
Sarvattstill havent figured out what they are doing for gles16:31
Sarvattahh ok looks like mameo is where to look for the gles stuff, it hasn't made it over to meego yet - http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenGL-ES16:39
Sarvattlibgles1-sgx-img libgles2-sgx-img opengles-sgx-img-common libgles1-sgx-img-dev opengles-sgx-img-common-dev libgles2-sgx-img-dev - those packages16:39
alex_mayorgaHi! I'd like some guidance on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55166818:11
alex_mayorgaIt's killing my battery life18:11
alex_mayorgaAlso on the same laptop nouveau refuses to work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/58138518:12
alex_mayorgaanything I can do to get those going?18:13
Bernardohi18:21
alex_mayorgaBernardo: hi18:32

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