[05:34] <Bernardo> good morning
[05:40] <RAOF> Ooh.  xserver 1.8.1+git.  Now with 35.7% less DRI2 craziness!
[05:41] <hyperair> eh? DRI2's getting removed?
[05:41] <hyperair> why?
[05:41] <RAOF> Not removed, fixed.
[05:42] <hyperair> oh
[05:42] <hyperair> O_o
[05:42] <hyperair> what was broken with it?
[05:43] <RAOF> You know that “xserver crashes whenever you close a clutter app” bug that got fixed with a patch that caused the GEM leak?  The work upstream to fix it has gone through a number of iterations, most of which broke something in DRI2 at some point.
[05:43] <hyperair> um no i don't know that bug.
[05:58] <Bernardo> the one that almost delayed lucid release?
[06:00] <RAOF> Right.
[06:02] <tjaalton> http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/versions-current.html
[06:02] <tjaalton> yess, we are done :)
[06:03] <RAOF> Hurray!
[06:06]  * Bernardo wonders if he'll have the time this weekend to try and trace meego's psb drivers
[06:48] <Bernardo> bbl
[11:19] <asac> RAOF: hey
[11:20] <asac> RAOF: you might have met alf__ at UDS; he is helping on our graphics story for embedded ...
[11:21] <asac> RAOF: from what i understand from chatting here yesterday with jcristau and Sarvatt you appear to plan working on making egl/gles packages available for mesa?
[11:21] <asac> RAOF: could you share your ideas/progress etc. on that with me and alf__ ? thanks a bunch
[11:23] <RAOF> asac, alf__: So, there are two separate egl/gles stacks in mesa at the moment; classic mesa and gallium.
[11:25] <RAOF> The classic mesa has dri, glx, and dri2 egl backends, so should be usable on random desktop hardware.
[11:25] <asac> RAOF: oh.... so what is gallium about ;)? (guess you are still typing)
[11:26] <RAOF> I haven't yet played with the gallium egl/es stack.  It's likely to not work well on intel, but nouveau has gallium drivers, and the radeon gallium driver is getting better than the classic mesa driver.
[11:27] <asac> hmm. 
[11:27] <asac> RAOF: is it possible to package both up?
[11:27] <asac> or do we need to decide?
[11:27] <RAOF> Yes, it should be possible to package both.
[11:28] <asac> RAOF: nice. are you planning on working on that?
[11:29] <RAOF> Yes.  If you want it faster, I can prioritise.  So far I've just run it past the debian guys and poked around the mesa tree.
[11:29] <asac> we somewhat need to get a clutter gles out asap ... wonder if there is anything else blocking a first iteration
[11:29] <alf__> RAOF: Will there be any conflicts if both the classic and gallium stacks are present on the system? Eg does one have to explicitly choose?
[11:30] <RAOF> You do have to choose which driver you're using, yes.
[11:30] <asac> RAOF: we want it fast, because we just dont know what happens and if that is good enough to start seriously checking drivers and clutter for unity
[11:31] <asac> and we want to give vendors and unity folks something to play with in order to get the embedded experience out.
[11:31] <RAOF> Ok.  I'll get that done Monday.
[11:31] <asac> wow
[11:31] <asac> thats amazing
[11:31] <asac> RAOF: do you see anything else we might need to do to do a clutter gles?
[11:32] <RAOF> Perhaps I should backpedal somewhat - I'll get mesa building the appropriate libs Monday.  No guarantees it'll be in the archive yet :)
[11:32]  * asac hugs RAOF 
[11:32] <asac> RAOF: thats fine. if you get the package in a ppa that would be good enough. we want to play with lucid for now i guess
[11:33] <RAOF> When I tried to build the egl backend previously all I noticed that we were missing was egl.
[11:33] <asac> but we can backport if mesa hasnt moved away too much 
[11:34] <asac> RAOF: hmm. isnt that in mesa itself?
[11:35] <RAOF> Yes, but we don't build that at the moment.
[11:37] <RAOF> You want to play on Lucid; is there any reason why I shouldn't be working on Maverick's mesa, giving it a bit of a test in lucid, and then pushing it to a lucid PPA?
[11:37] <jcristau> sigh closed ubuntu-x list.
[11:37] <RAOF> Is that the level of support that you need in Lucid?
[11:38] <RAOF> jcristau: Yeah, it still bites me - always a game of “which one of my email addresses is subscibed there?”
[14:42] <asac> RAOF: sure. go for mesa+maverick
[14:42] <asac> just would love if it doesnt cause too much pain to get for lucid ;)
[15:55] <Sarvatt> asac: need to package the proprietary libgles/egl with -dev packages for it for one thing if you actually want 3D :)
[16:31] <Sarvatt> RAOF: meego is shipping libegl/libegl-devel in mesa btw if it helps too look at their packages
[16:31] <Sarvatt> still havent figured out what they are doing for gles
[16:39] <Sarvatt> ahh ok looks like mameo is where to look for the gles stuff, it hasn't made it over to meego yet - http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenGL-ES
[16:39] <Sarvatt> libgles1-sgx-img libgles2-sgx-img opengles-sgx-img-common libgles1-sgx-img-dev opengles-sgx-img-common-dev libgles2-sgx-img-dev - those packages
[18:11] <alex_mayorga> Hi! I'd like some guidance on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/551668
[18:11] <alex_mayorga> It's killing my battery life
[18:12] <alex_mayorga> Also on the same laptop nouveau refuses to work https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/581385
[18:13] <alex_mayorga> anything I can do to get those going?
[18:21] <Bernardo> hi
[18:32] <alex_mayorga> Bernardo: hi