[10:01]  * quadrispro NM in progress
[10:04] <persia> Good luck!
[10:16] <astraljava> NM as in New Maintainer?
[10:19] <falktx> i think it is Network Manager
[10:21] <persia> It's both, but in this case, very likely to be the Debian New Maintainer process
[10:50] <astraljava> Yeah, due to following #debian-multimedia and #debian-ubuntu on oftc, I figured as much. :D
[11:21] <quadrispro> persia, thank you
[11:22] <quadrispro> almost finished :P https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=quadrispro@ubuntu.com
[14:10] <falktx> hi there
[14:11] <falktx> will we have jack2 on 10.10?
[14:14] <falktx> has this been discussed already?
[14:15] <falktx> (I read somewhere about this, can't remember where)
[14:17] <scott-work> hi falktx
[14:17] <scott-work> jack2 is in debian and hopefully will be in 10.10
[14:18] <scott-work> crimsun, The.Muso and others are working on getting it and Pule Audio to play nicely together within the Ubuntu framework
[14:19] <scott-work> i would like to talk with you about getting your work into Ubuntu (via Debian) though
[14:19] <scott-work> you have already witnessed and commented on how slow REVU takes to get new packages into Ubuntu, however another vector exists
[14:20] <scott-work> this is through Debian, and for audio specific packages we have worked with the Debian Multimedia team
[14:20] <falktx> i'll stay on lucid for now (for KXStudio), but i'll be happy to help
[14:21] <falktx> have you check the "pulse-jack" package
[14:21] <falktx> I think there are many ppl interested on that
[14:21] <scott-work> is the "pulse-jack" package part of KXStudio?
[14:22] <falktx> it's in my "lucid" ppa
[14:22] <falktx> it's not kxstudio related script
[14:22] <falktx> but, of course, it's used on it
[14:22] <scott-work> while I have already downloaded KXStudio, accessing your PPA to inspect a package will be easier :)
[14:24] <falktx> i need to say this
[14:24] <scott-work> Debian has a much more robust program for accepting new packages, which is why getting them into Debian sometimes (or possibly manytimes) is a quicker path to get them into Ubuntu
[14:24] <falktx> i'm pretty glad launchpad exists!
[14:24] <scott-work> hah!  yes, it is pretty sweet :D
[14:25] <scott-work> the more I explore it, the more it amazes me
[14:26] <scott-work> I want to speak with quadrispro and/or fabrice_sp (and possibly astraljava) about getting your packaging into Debian and then into Ubuntu
[14:26] <scott-work> you are a dynamic and robust packager and I want to harness that to Ubuntu (and Ubuntu Studio's specific) benefit
[14:27] <falktx> haha
[14:27] <falktx> my hard works is "compensating"
[14:29] <falktx> tell me what i need to do to help
[14:32] <scott-work> sorry, i'm at work, therefore i'll be away from time to time
[14:33] <scott-work> re: help - Ubuntu Studio is part of Ubuntu (which is derived from Debian), therefore to reap the rewards afforded by Ubuntu's infrastructure we must constrain ourselves within it's paradigms
[14:33] <scott-work> which basically means, we have to play by their rules, especially when it comes to packaging
[14:34] <scott-work> i haven't looked at any of your packages in a while, have you been trying to follow the Ubuntu or Debian packaing policy (i.e. /debian directory, et al)?
[14:35] <scott-work> (this would greatly facilitate getting packages into Debian/Ubuntu)
[14:37] <scott-work> but I must add, you packaging all the audio applications is already quite a lot of help!
[14:42] <falktx> i have a set of templates for packaging
[14:42] <falktx> i just copy, modify a few lines
[14:42] <falktx> and it's done
[14:43] <falktx> the debian/copyright only says "packaged by falkTX"
[14:43] <falktx> the debian/rules use cdbs
[14:44] <falktx> with only build::
[14:44] <falktx> and common-install::
[14:44] <falktx> that's the fatest way of packaging for me (for PPA purposes)
[14:45] <falktx> I still don't know how to use quilt
[14:45] <falktx> and i'm guessing this will be the biggest problem, as I sometimes add patches/modify the source
[14:46] <falktx> (better ladish integration, compilation fixes, etc)
[14:54] <scott-work> i'm a packaging hack myself, so i'll have to ask quadrispro or persia how that might impact
[14:54] <persia> Lots of ways work.  I personally prefer using /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.tiny
[14:55] <falktx> i believe that my debian/rules are fine
[14:55] <persia> But in general, except for new stuff, we follow debian-multimedia practice, and if we're putting new stuff in Debian we'd do best to start that way.
[14:55] <scott-work> hi persia, i meant more about quilt and modifying source
[14:55] <persia> falktx: They are absolutely fine :)  I'm just sharing my personal preference.
[14:55] <falktx> good, that makes me happy
[14:56] <falktx> but please note that some packages are copied from somewhere else
[14:56] <falktx> debian testing, other ppas, etc
[14:56] <falktx> but most of them are mine
[14:57] <falktx> philip5 also has good packages
[14:57] <persia> For quilt, it's mostly just using `quilt push`, `quilt pop`, `quilt new`, and `quilt edit`
[14:58] <falktx> i'll have to learn about that sometime later
[15:18] <scott-work> falktx, did you ever sort out the IRC color issue you mentioned before?
[15:18] <falktx> not really
[15:18] <scott-work> in xchat, my text is red when someone uses my name
[15:19] <falktx> me too , using konversation
[15:19] <falktx> i'm just not used to irc
[15:19] <falktx> how do you do like
[15:19] <falktx> falktx thinks bla bla
[15:19] <falktx> (here appears in blue)
[15:19] <falktx> ?
[15:20] <scott-work> i never used IRC before i started working with the ubuntu studio developers
[15:20] <scott-work> lol, there were lots of things i never did before i started working with the ubuntu studio developers
[15:20] <scott-work> but i like the red (or blue) text, it helps to locate where someone is addressing you directly
[15:21] <falktx> so how do i get the blue, "my-thoughts" like thing?
[15:22] <scott-work> One of the most useful options, nick/line highlighting, is turned off by default. To enable it, go to Settings » Configure Konversation… » Highlight. Check the options for Always highlight own current nick and Always highlight own lines, and choose colors for them. One good choice is red for current nick, and green for own lines
[15:22] <scott-work> i didn't just type that myself, i copied from a website tutorial
[15:23] <scott-work> http://docs.zetaboards.com/irc/konversation
[15:24] <falktx> konversation is good per default
[15:24] <falktx> i only enable the systray
[15:24] <falktx> what i'm trying to do is something like this
[15:24] <falktx> (copied from another channel):
[15:24] <falktx> * nedko notices evil use of printf
[15:25] <falktx> how do I do that?
[15:25]  * scott-work is wondering if falktx means this?
[15:26] <scott-work> you type "/me action"
[15:26] <scott-work> without quotes
[15:26]  * scott-work action
[15:26] <falktx> ha!
[15:26] <falktx> let me try
[15:26]  * falktx is happy
[15:26] <falktx> hahaaaaaa
[15:27]  * falktx is going to play soccer today, and he's very excited about it
[15:27] <falktx> many thanks!!!!!
[15:28] <scott-work> your welcome :)
[15:29] <falktx> my life has meaning now, LOL
[15:30] <falktx> doesn't upload too many stuff to launchpad makes it slow?
[15:31] <falktx> sometimes I get the idea that the more uploads i do, the more I'll have to wait
[15:35] <scott-work> i've never felt that launchpad was optimized for browser speed, but neither have i felt that is has slowed down either
[15:37] <falktx> i mean
[15:37] <falktx> i've made lots of uploads today
[15:37] <falktx> (around 50)
[15:38] <falktx> now i have to wait 5 hours
[15:38] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/kxstudio/+build/1749550
[15:39] <scott-work> oh, you mean for the builds
[15:42] <scott-work> yes, the build farm hosts a discreet number of virtual builders and the total number of builds queued (plus their priority) will affect build times
[17:07] <scott-work> persia:  there might have been a misconception (my fault) when we spoke last about gnome-network-admin
[17:08] <persia> How do you mean?
[17:08] <scott-work> persia:  my description was incomplete when i said i saw the options, i did see the options but they were greyed out and i was unable to change them
[17:08] <scott-work> so this affects not only wireless but also wired connections
[17:09] <persia> Right.  That matches my memory of when I had facilities to replicate.
[17:09] <scott-work> i realized afterwards how misleading this might be, especially coupled with your comment "maybe, this only affects wireless, weird" ( or something to that effect)
[17:10] <scott-work> and i did not want to mislead you :)
[17:10] <persia> Yeah, I was a bit confused.  I'm glad to have my prior understandign restored.
[17:11] <scott-work> :)
[17:11] <scott-work> oh, i sent an email to Luis last night, i am unsure if he will be responsive though