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hookworm24likemindead, no, Just xubuntu. I went back down to the previous kernel and it is able to boot now.00:08
likemindeadGood!00:08
likemindeadI'd give it a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for good measure.00:08
hookworm24likemindead, i have removed the new kernel for the time being so i can use my machine. Another dude in #ubuntu had the same problem with his dell laptop.00:10
likemindeadBummer.00:10
charlie-tcadid anyone file a bug for it?00:10
hookworm24not sure what that is/how to do it00:10
likemindeadGlad you've got it sorted. You should file a bug and post your experience to the forum.00:10
charlie-tcafile a bug - ubuntu-bug linux00:11
hookworm24random question: I installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on my machine when it came out. then decided i wanted to use xfce, so i installed that over top of whatever was there before. would i benefit from removing everything and installing from a pure xubuntu iso? or would it be the same?00:16
charlie-tcadon't know. Never looked at netbook remix00:16
hookworm24oh00:17
hookworm24when i was doing the dist. upgrade, i noticed a whole bunch of gnome packages being downloaded and installed....and i'm pretty sure i'm not using any of them00:18
hookworm24what's up with that?00:18
charlie-tcaxubuntu does use some of the gnome packages00:18
hookworm24oh00:19
hookworm24good to know00:19
charlie-tcaWe use whatever is easiest for us to maintain, if it works the best for Xubuntu00:19
hookworm24That makes sense....00:19
charlie-tcathe name 'gnome' does not mean the software is not the best or lightweight. It simply means the developer of the application used gnome in the name.00:20
AquinaHas someone of you experience with Intel?00:22
charlie-tcaNot me, I threw the intel motherboard away00:22
AquinaI mean from an working point of view not regarding the products.00:22
* charlie-tca has no working experience with intel, either.00:23
Aquinaok, thx :-)00:23
charlie-tcaMaybe hang around, see if someone has any00:23
Aquinasure I will. :-)00:24
Aquinacharlie-tca, when is the next IOS rebuild and what was the birthdayparty like (the one you went to two weeks ago)?00:25
Aquina(iso)00:25
charlie-tcaThe iso's should be ready to test around the 31st of May, with Alpha1 due out June 300:26
charlie-tcathe birthday I can't actually remember. I tend to block what I don't need anymore00:26
Aquinahuh? Wasn't it your grandson (I mean the son of your son)? :-/00:27
charlie-tcaBut it is not necessary to remember it after it is over. I have enough to try to remember with a bad memory.00:28
charlie-tcaNow that you mention it, I think it was my grandson's party00:28
AquinaYour memory has become bad over time? Really?00:29
charlie-tcayeah, I used to be able to recall almost anything, now I do good to remember things from day to day00:30
charlie-tcaIsn't that why they make calendar programs?00:30
Aquina:-/00:30
AquinaWill your memory at least stay that way?00:31
charlie-tcaWe can hope00:31
charlie-tcabut I keep a calendar, both written and on the computer. That works for me00:32
_Techie_Aquina, you were looking for someone with experience with Intel?00:34
Aquinayes00:41
_Techie_what exactly was it you were wanting to know, ill have an ask around00:41
AquinaThey made men an offer. I heard 'things' about Intel though and so I'd like to hear an insider opinion.00:42
Aquina(me an offer)00:42
_Techie_i figured00:42
Aquina:-)00:43
_Techie_so what should i be asking00:44
AquinaI see, charlie.00:44
AquinaIt's not so much a specific question (except the usual like payment and how much they care) but rather a ggeneral statement and experiences I'd like to hear (e.g. ones pros and cons/whatever comes into that persons mind first).00:45
AquinaAlso things to watch out for, what's important for the Intel administration, etc.00:46
_Techie_so was this offer to do with employment with them, or distribution or something else00:47
Aquinaemployment00:49
_Techie_i see00:49
_Techie_anyway, im gonna head into town00:53
_Techie_ill have a good think and see if theres anyone i can ask for ya Aquina00:54
_Techie_anyway, catcha later00:54
Aquina:-)00:59
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slimjimflimmy 10.04 goes in to some sort of panic mode switching between ttys...can't get out of it04:41
slimjimflimit's happened about 4 times since i did dist upgrade04:42
slimjimflimone screen is black i think, the other is black w/ like 4 white lines...back and forth, back and forth...all i can do is reboot w/ ctrl+alt+del04:43
slimjimflimany ideas?04:43
slimjimflimcripes it just happened again04:51
Hoochsterhello, is there a bug or something not allowing 10.04 to do shift plus symbols.  ever since i upgraded to 10.04 tonight i can't shift anything  mind you i am remote controlling but all worked before05:27
Hoochsteri can paste a shifted character in from another window though05:27
likemindeadWhat's your keyboard layout, Hoochster?05:39
Hoochsterus defaults05:39
Hoochsterwas running karmic before the upgrade and all was fine05:40
Hoochsterbut after upgrade and reboot noticed i could no longer press the pound key etc heh, but i can cut/paste into it from another window05:40
Hoochsteri am using x11vnc to control it05:40
Hoochsteri will note this is on a vmware server but again no issues before05:40
Hoochsterif you have any ideas i am open heh i have googled for awhile now05:40
likemindeadSounds strange, for sure.05:45
Hoochstertrying to connect to my vmware server to try via console to see if it is just a vnc thing05:45
cmalohello anyone here?05:59
likemindeadYes.05:59
Hoochsterlikemindead, seems to be a bug with x11vnc, I finally found a workaround to get me by till they fix it.06:01
likemindeadNeat. I've yet to use/have a need for VNC or VMWare.06:02
Hoochsterwell I just have 1 main server, and I run linux-vserver for most stuff but due to display sharing I run vmware-server for stuff like this which is my irc/im server that I leave connected all the time and just remote it from wherever I am heh06:03
Hoochsterhttp://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/en/node/71406:04
Hoochsteris the workaround if anyone else runs into the issue06:04
likemindeadYou should post it to ubuntuforums.org for others.06:04
Hoochsterk06:04
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vikashi12:40
vikasany one there12:40
vikaswanna make opera as defolt browser12:41
Sysimenu → settings → default applications12:41
vikasdid not gt12:42
vikasm using xubantu12:43
Sysithere it's configured in my xubuntu12:43
Sysiyou have opera installed?12:45
vikasno i installed manually12:46
vikasfrom fire fox12:46
Sysithat can change things (i'm nor sure)12:46
Sysi!opera12:46
ubottuOpera is an advanced, fast and free (as in beer) web browser. It is packaged for easy installation into Ubuntu. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:46
vikasi alrady installed12:47
Sysii haven't ever installed anything outside the repositories, i don't know how they work12:48
vikasi installed vlc also now i wanna play files from my usb12:48
Sysi!info xubuntu-restricted-extras12:50
ubottuxubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Xubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 39 (lucid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB12:50
Sysifor flash, codecs etc.12:50
vikasmp3,mp412:51
Sysiyeah, install that12:51
vikasi am new to xubuntu12:51
vikasi alrady installed12:51
Sysistill don't work?12:51
vikasnow i wanna make it default12:51
vikasya it works12:52
Sysiyou're talkin about opera now?12:52
vikasbt i wanna make one click file play12:52
vikasno vlc12:52
vikasexile opens when i click mp4 files12:53
vikasany one plz help12:53
Sysiright click → properties12:53
Sysi!patience12:53
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.12:53
Sysithere is option for default program12:54
vikaswhere it is found i search it all12:54
Sysiright click over file12:55
vikasya12:55
Sysimenu that opens → properties12:55
vikasok12:55
vikasya i done it12:58
vikasthnx12:58
vikashow to chat on yahoo13:07
vikasempathy is not getting connected13:08
junglihello what is nis server :P13:31
Pres-Gasjungli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service13:32
jungliPres-Gas: ;-*13:33
Pres-GasIt would be similar to Active Directory in Windows Servers13:33
vikasany one there13:35
Pres-GasNo, vikas.13:35
vikasi have microsoft multimedia keyboard bt not working13:37
vikashelp13:37
vikashelp13:38
Sysi!ask13:38
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:38
vikasi have microsoft multimedia keyboard bt not working13:39
vikas<vikas> help13:39
Sysihave you tried google?13:39
vikasno13:39
bazhangvikas, bluetooth?13:40
vikasand one thing i made opera as my default browser13:40
vikasno13:41
vikaswired13:41
bazhangvikas, what is wired? the MS keyboard? you want all the function keys to work, such as in Windows?13:41
vikasya13:42
vikasi have music key, homepage key,sound key, etc13:42
bazhangright, I understand13:43
vikasis that possible will all key function like in windows13:43
bazhangvikas, exactly like in Windows? doubtful13:44
vikasit have linux support13:44
bazhangin cases such as these, I put the exact name of the keyboard  model, and the word Ubuntu, and it leads to an ubuntuforums post13:45
vikassry dont know the model13:45
bazhangthere will usually be a walkthrough (if one exists for said kb)13:45
bazhangthat makes it hard to help then13:46
vikasits microsoft13:46
vikasill see in microsoft web13:46
vikaslet see ill get some solution there13:46
bazhangsure. MS has tons of models though13:47
bazhangits USB?13:47
vikasya13:47
vikasboth13:47
bazhangtry typing lsusb in terminal and check if that tells you the model13:47
vikasok13:48
bazhangpaste.ubuntu.com the output so we can read it (dont paste in here)13:48
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vikasvikas@vikas-desktop:~$ lsusb13:50
vikasBus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)13:50
vikasBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub13:50
vikasBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub13:50
vikasBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub13:50
vikasBus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub13:50
vikasBus 004 Device 002: ID 0421:04bd Nokia Mobile Phones13:50
vikasBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub13:50
bazhangvikas, Not here13:50
vikaswhat is Cambridge Silicon Radio13:50
bazhangvikas I said to paste.ubuntu.com with it13:50
knome!pastebin | vikas13:50
ubottuvikas: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:50
vikassry me new to linux13:51
vikashow to do13:51
bazhangvikas, the kb is clearly not connected via usb, but via bluetooth13:51
vikasi have bluetooth dongle13:51
bazhangvikas, open a browser, type in paste.ubuntu.com13:51
knomevikas, open firefox or your default browser, browse to paste.ubuntu.com, paste to the textbox, click paste and copy us the paste link13:51
vikask13:52
bazhangvikas, then put the usb attachment of the kb not the the bt dongle13:52
bazhangand repeat the command lsusb13:52
knomevikas, eg. http://paste.ubuntu.com/437303/13:52
vikasno kb is ps213:52
vikasok13:52
bazhangwell then13:52
bazhangyou said earlier it was NOT bluetooth13:53
vikasya it is not bluetooth13:53
vikasi connected kb at back of my motherboard13:53
bazhangthe bt dongle attaches to what then13:53
bazhangor interacts, rather13:54
vikasto my phone13:54
bazhangvikas, have you looked on the underside of the kb to see if the model is there13:55
vikasya its there13:55
vikasthnx13:55
bazhangnp13:56
vikasrt230013:56
bazhangrt2300 ubuntu MS keyboard  <--search terms13:56
vikashow13:57
vikassry where13:57
vikasin google13:57
bazhangthere, or ubuntuforums search bar13:58
vikask13:58
bazhangiirc they have a peripherals group of threads13:59
vikask i gt it13:59
bazhangfound it?13:59
vikasi found the form13:59
vikasnot getting it14:04
bazhanglet me try14:04
vikasi go to microsoft there is no linux os14:05
vikashttp://www.microsoft.com/hardware/download/download.aspx?category=MK14:05
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269348 this mentions Keytouch editor14:05
bazhang!info keytouch-editor14:06
ubottukeytouch-editor (source: keytouch-editor): create keyboard files for keytouch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0~beta-1 (lucid), package size 88 kB, installed size 388 kB14:06
vikaswhere is component universe14:08
bazhangtry apt-cache search keytouch in terminal14:08
vikashay bt i am connected to ps2 connector14:09
bazhangdid you try the command above14:10
vikasya14:10
vikasnow14:10
bazhangand does it show keytouch-editor14:10
vikasno14:11
vikasvikas@vikas-desktop:~$ apt-cache14:11
vikasapt 0.7.23.1ubuntu2 for i386 compiled on Oct 15 2009 19:23:1714:11
vikasUsage: apt-cache [options] command14:11
vikas       apt-cache [options] add file1 [file2 ...]14:11
vikas       apt-cache [options] showpkg pkg1 [pkg2 ...]14:11
vikas       apt-cache [options] showsrc pkg1 [pkg2 ...]14:11
vikasapt-cache is a low-level tool used to manipulate APT's binary14:11
vikascache files, and query information from them14:11
vikasCommands:14:11
vikas   add - Add a package file to the source cache14:11
vikas   gencaches - Build both the package and source cache14:11
vikas   showpkg - Show some general information for a single package14:11
vikas   showsrc - Show source records14:12
vikas   stats - Show some basic statistics14:12
bazhangvikas, please dont paste here14:12
vikas  -c=? Read this configuration file14:12
vikas  -o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp14:12
vikasSee the apt-cache(8) and apt.conf(5) manual pages for more information.14:12
vikask14:12
vikassry14:12
bazhangvikas, dont do it again14:12
vikasya14:13
vikaswhat happened14:13
vikas?14:13
vikasok forget that14:14
vikasi set opera as my default browser14:14
bazhangyou didn't put in the proper command.   its ----> apt-cache search keytouch  <-----  Don't paste output here vikas14:15
vikasbut whenever i try to open new web site new opera popup14:15
vikasi wanna open it in new tab14:15
knomevikas, you have to change opera's settings14:16
bazhangvikas, we did not finish the KB issue14:16
vikask14:16
vikasok14:16
bazhangvikas, you don't want to do that?14:16
vikasya wanna do14:16
bazhangthen type the proper command as I suggest above, and don't paste the output here vikas14:17
vikasya i did14:17
bazhangand it shows keytouch-editor ?14:17
Pres-Gas!pastebin14:17
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:17
vikasya14:17
bazhangthen install it14:18
bazhangsudo apt-get install keytouch-editor14:18
vikaswt i wanna show the screen shoot14:18
vikashow to do that14:19
bazhangvikas, please type complete words, cannot understand you14:19
vikasi wanna show u the output how i can show u14:20
knomevikas, go to paste.ubuntu.com. ok?14:20
vikasya then i open that site14:21
knomethen copy the output text14:21
knomeand paste the text in the textbox you see in the site. ok?14:21
knomevikas, where it says "Content:"14:21
vikasthere is paster and content14:22
knomevikas, yes, paste the output to content first14:22
knomevikas, ok?14:22
vikaswhat is syntax14:22
vikaswhat to set14:22
knomevikas, just leave it as plain text14:22
vikasok14:23
knomevikas, then, also add "vikas" to poster. ok?14:23
vikasya i did14:23
knomeokay, then click "Paste!" and DON'T close the browser14:23
vikasi did that too14:24
knomeokay14:24
vikasthen14:24
knomethen you have a new url in the address bar, eg. http://paste.ubuntu.com/437332/14:24
knomepaste that url to this channel14:24
vikashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/437328/14:25
knomegreat! now, whenever you need to paste anything over 1 line, use the same steps, and remember to paste the url :)14:25
knomebazhang, you're welcome14:26
vikasthen how u can past the command here14:26
vikasthnx 4 the steps to explain14:26
knomevikas, sorry, i didn't understand you, can you try to rephrase?14:26
knomebazhang, (i know nothing of keytouch :))14:27
vikask14:27
bazhangknome, sorry what?14:27
knomebazhang, you might want to tackle vikas' kb issue, right? :)14:27
vikasther how bazhang pasted the commend of terminal here14:27
bazhangknome, he simply needs to install keytouch-editor14:28
vikasbut i dont know14:28
bazhangnever used it myself14:28
knomevikas, do you have a terminal window open?14:28
knomebazhang, okay.. :)14:28
vikasthnx to u people helping me14:28
knomevikas, is the kb issue solved, or do you want me to go through it with you?14:29
vikasya i have terminal open14:29
vikasno it is not solved14:29
knomevikas, okay, type 'sudo apt-get install keytouch-editor' in the terminal without the 's14:29
knomevikas, and if you need to paste the output, please use pastebin :)14:29
vikashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/437339/14:31
knomevikas, do you have synaptic or other package manager open?14:31
vikasi am updating14:32
knomevikas, okay, then wait until the updating ends and type that command again14:32
knomevikas, you can only run one update/installation/etc at a time14:32
vikasya update is over and it says system restart is required14:33
knomevikas, you can reboot if you want, or leave that to later14:34
vikasleave that to later14:34
vikaslet get back to kb14:34
knomeokay, then run the command at terminal again after you've closed all the update-related windows14:34
vikasok its getting download14:35
vikasnow14:36
vikashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/437341/14:37
vikasknome u there14:38
vikasany one there14:43
vikasi opened keytouch-editor14:44
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knomevikas, i don't know how to use keytouch-editor, sorry14:45
vikasi know14:45
vikasbt one problem14:45
vikasevery key function properly but the calci key shows the help14:46
vikashow can i change it on calci14:47
knomecalci?14:50
vikascalculator14:51
vikask bye every one thanks for help14:54
khindenburgHow do you get the top/bottom menubars back?  They keep getting killed in my virtualbox guest15:35
Sysi!panels15:36
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/15:36
khindenburgcool txs15:36
khindenburgI had thought the OOM killer killed them, perhaps not15:37
arandUser "vikas" in #ubuntu has installed ubuntu-desktop and then xubuntu-desktop, when trying to do-release-upgrade, yields http://paste.ubuntu.com/437435/ "could not calculate upgrade".18:51
charlie-tcaThe upgrade fails if two desktop metapackages are installed.18:52
charlie-tcaThe user should report a bug as it says.18:53
arandcharlie-tca: Common issue?19:05
charlie-tcafor those with both desktops installed, yes19:05
arandAh, bother, user is gone now.19:06
charlie-tcahe'll be back...19:08
arandAh, already seems to be well underway in Bug #57174319:09
bazhangvikas?19:09
arandbazhang: Yep19:09
xubuntu469:)19:11
charlie-tcaThat's a really nice bug ;-)19:12
mika__im trying to create script to save first result with find as source_filename, but find wont stop on first hit. It will save all of the zip files to source_filename, How to stop find after first hit? My script19:21
mika__for source_filename in $(19:21
mika__    find '/home/user/packs' -type f -iname '*zip'19:21
mika__)19:21
arandmika__: for source_filename in $(find '/home/user/packs' -type f -iname '*zip' | head -n1)  (probably better ways to do it, but...)19:34
moetunesarand: he asked in #ubuntu and #kubuntu - I told him to use ls and grep - grep -m 1 will return the first line19:37
subspiderhello20:51
subspidercharlie-tca, how are you20:51
charlie-tcaHello, subspider20:52
charlie-tcaDoing fine, yourself?20:52
subspideryes fine20:53
subspiderandroid programming :)20:53
Viking667I've got a weird problem. I don't know how to set the console keyboard mapping. I've checked in /etc/default/console-setup, but there's nothing reflecting dvorak in the whole of /etc. My wife can't type dvorak, so how do I get console back to qwerty for her on bootup?23:25
charlie-tcaViking667: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard, Layout23:31
Viking667uh, she's not in X.23:31
Viking667And I want to set it differently for my user than for hers.23:31
Viking667I can type in both qwerty anddvorak, she only pokes.23:32
charlie-tcatry running dpkg console-setup reconfigure23:32
Viking667ahh. Right. Thank you.23:32
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charlie-tcaI think that was wrong, should be dpkg-reconfigure console-setup23:35
Viking667Yup. Figured that's what you meant23:35
Viking667Thank you. That was probably the thing I needed.23:36
Viking667Now, off to my other machine, hi ho, hi ho...23:36
Viking667awww, shyte.23:39
Viking667Now flash isnt working, and I can't even download it from adobe.23:40
TheBilgeRatin what way is it not working?  and are you i386 or x64?23:44

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