[00:08] <hookworm24> likemindead, no, Just xubuntu. I went back down to the previous kernel and it is able to boot now.
[00:08] <likemindead> Good!
[00:08] <likemindead> I'd give it a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for good measure.
[00:10] <hookworm24> likemindead, i have removed the new kernel for the time being so i can use my machine. Another dude in #ubuntu had the same problem with his dell laptop.
[00:10] <likemindead> Bummer.
[00:10] <charlie-tca> did anyone file a bug for it?
[00:10] <hookworm24> not sure what that is/how to do it
[00:10] <likemindead> Glad you've got it sorted. You should file a bug and post your experience to the forum.
[00:11] <charlie-tca> file a bug - ubuntu-bug linux
[00:16] <hookworm24> random question: I installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on my machine when it came out. then decided i wanted to use xfce, so i installed that over top of whatever was there before. would i benefit from removing everything and installing from a pure xubuntu iso? or would it be the same?
[00:16] <charlie-tca> don't know. Never looked at netbook remix
[00:17] <hookworm24> oh
[00:18] <hookworm24> when i was doing the dist. upgrade, i noticed a whole bunch of gnome packages being downloaded and installed....and i'm pretty sure i'm not using any of them
[00:18] <hookworm24> what's up with that?
[00:18] <charlie-tca> xubuntu does use some of the gnome packages
[00:19] <hookworm24> oh
[00:19] <hookworm24> good to know
[00:19] <charlie-tca> We use whatever is easiest for us to maintain, if it works the best for Xubuntu
[00:19] <hookworm24> That makes sense....
[00:20] <charlie-tca> the name 'gnome' does not mean the software is not the best or lightweight. It simply means the developer of the application used gnome in the name.
[00:22] <Aquina> Has someone of you experience with Intel?
[00:22] <charlie-tca> Not me, I threw the intel motherboard away
[00:22] <Aquina> I mean from an working point of view not regarding the products.
[00:23]  * charlie-tca has no working experience with intel, either.
[00:23] <Aquina> ok, thx :-)
[00:23] <charlie-tca> Maybe hang around, see if someone has any
[00:24] <Aquina> sure I will. :-)
[00:25] <Aquina> charlie-tca, when is the next IOS rebuild and what was the birthdayparty like (the one you went to two weeks ago)?
[00:25] <Aquina> (iso)
[00:26] <charlie-tca> The iso's should be ready to test around the 31st of May, with Alpha1 due out June 3
[00:26] <charlie-tca> the birthday I can't actually remember. I tend to block what I don't need anymore
[00:27] <Aquina> huh? Wasn't it your grandson (I mean the son of your son)? :-/
[00:28] <charlie-tca> But it is not necessary to remember it after it is over. I have enough to try to remember with a bad memory.
[00:28] <charlie-tca> Now that you mention it, I think it was my grandson's party
[00:29] <Aquina> Your memory has become bad over time? Really?
[00:30] <charlie-tca> yeah, I used to be able to recall almost anything, now I do good to remember things from day to day
[00:30] <charlie-tca> Isn't that why they make calendar programs?
[00:30] <Aquina> :-/
[00:31] <Aquina> Will your memory at least stay that way?
[00:31] <charlie-tca> We can hope
[00:32] <charlie-tca> but I keep a calendar, both written and on the computer. That works for me
[00:34] <_Techie_> Aquina, you were looking for someone with experience with Intel?
[00:41] <Aquina> yes
[00:41] <_Techie_> what exactly was it you were wanting to know, ill have an ask around
[00:42] <Aquina> They made men an offer. I heard 'things' about Intel though and so I'd like to hear an insider opinion.
[00:42] <Aquina> (me an offer)
[00:42] <_Techie_> i figured
[00:43] <Aquina> :-)
[00:44] <_Techie_> so what should i be asking
[00:44] <Aquina> I see, charlie.
[00:45] <Aquina> It's not so much a specific question (except the usual like payment and how much they care) but rather a ggeneral statement and experiences I'd like to hear (e.g. ones pros and cons/whatever comes into that persons mind first).
[00:46] <Aquina> Also things to watch out for, what's important for the Intel administration, etc.
[00:47] <_Techie_> so was this offer to do with employment with them, or distribution or something else
[00:49] <Aquina> employment
[00:49] <_Techie_> i see
[00:53] <_Techie_> anyway, im gonna head into town
[00:54] <_Techie_> ill have a good think and see if theres anyone i can ask for ya Aquina
[00:54] <_Techie_> anyway, catcha later
[00:59] <Aquina> :-)
[04:41] <slimjimflim> my 10.04 goes in to some sort of panic mode switching between ttys...can't get out of it
[04:42] <slimjimflim> it's happened about 4 times since i did dist upgrade
[04:43] <slimjimflim> one screen is black i think, the other is black w/ like 4 white lines...back and forth, back and forth...all i can do is reboot w/ ctrl+alt+del
[04:43] <slimjimflim> any ideas?
[04:51] <slimjimflim> cripes it just happened again
[05:27] <Hoochster> hello, is there a bug or something not allowing 10.04 to do shift plus symbols.  ever since i upgraded to 10.04 tonight i can't shift anything  mind you i am remote controlling but all worked before
[05:27] <Hoochster> i can paste a shifted character in from another window though
[05:39] <likemindead> What's your keyboard layout, Hoochster?
[05:39] <Hoochster> us defaults
[05:40] <Hoochster> was running karmic before the upgrade and all was fine
[05:40] <Hoochster> but after upgrade and reboot noticed i could no longer press the pound key etc heh, but i can cut/paste into it from another window
[05:40] <Hoochster> i am using x11vnc to control it
[05:40] <Hoochster> i will note this is on a vmware server but again no issues before
[05:40] <Hoochster> if you have any ideas i am open heh i have googled for awhile now
[05:45] <likemindead> Sounds strange, for sure.
[05:45] <Hoochster> trying to connect to my vmware server to try via console to see if it is just a vnc thing
[05:59] <cmalo> hello anyone here?
[05:59] <likemindead> Yes.
[06:01] <Hoochster> likemindead, seems to be a bug with x11vnc, I finally found a workaround to get me by till they fix it.
[06:02] <likemindead> Neat. I've yet to use/have a need for VNC or VMWare.
[06:03] <Hoochster> well I just have 1 main server, and I run linux-vserver for most stuff but due to display sharing I run vmware-server for stuff like this which is my irc/im server that I leave connected all the time and just remote it from wherever I am heh
[06:04] <Hoochster> http://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/en/node/714
[06:04] <Hoochster> is the workaround if anyone else runs into the issue
[06:04] <likemindead> You should post it to ubuntuforums.org for others.
[06:04] <Hoochster> k
[12:40] <vikas> hi
[12:40] <vikas> any one there
[12:41] <vikas> wanna make opera as defolt browser
[12:41] <Sysi> menu → settings → default applications
[12:42] <vikas> did not gt
[12:43] <vikas> m using xubantu
[12:43] <Sysi> there it's configured in my xubuntu
[12:45] <Sysi> you have opera installed?
[12:46] <vikas> no i installed manually
[12:46] <vikas> from fire fox
[12:46] <Sysi> that can change things (i'm nor sure)
[12:46] <Sysi> !opera
[12:47] <vikas> i alrady installed
[12:48] <Sysi> i haven't ever installed anything outside the repositories, i don't know how they work
[12:48] <vikas> i installed vlc also now i wanna play files from my usb
[12:50] <Sysi> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:50] <Sysi> for flash, codecs etc.
[12:51] <vikas> mp3,mp4
[12:51] <Sysi> yeah, install that
[12:51] <vikas> i am new to xubuntu
[12:51] <vikas> i alrady installed
[12:51] <Sysi> still don't work?
[12:51] <vikas> now i wanna make it default
[12:52] <vikas> ya it works
[12:52] <Sysi> you're talkin about opera now?
[12:52] <vikas> bt i wanna make one click file play
[12:52] <vikas> no vlc
[12:53] <vikas> exile opens when i click mp4 files
[12:53] <vikas> any one plz help
[12:53] <Sysi> right click → properties
[12:53] <Sysi> !patience
[12:54] <Sysi> there is option for default program
[12:54] <vikas> where it is found i search it all
[12:55] <Sysi> right click over file
[12:55] <vikas> ya
[12:55] <Sysi> menu that opens → properties
[12:55] <vikas> ok
[12:58] <vikas> ya i done it
[12:58] <vikas> thnx
[13:07] <vikas> how to chat on yahoo
[13:08] <vikas> empathy is not getting connected
[13:31] <jungli> hello what is nis server :P
[13:32] <Pres-Gas> jungli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service
[13:33] <jungli> Pres-Gas: ;-*
[13:33] <Pres-Gas> It would be similar to Active Directory in Windows Servers
[13:35] <vikas> any one there
[13:35] <Pres-Gas> No, vikas.
[13:37] <vikas> i have microsoft multimedia keyboard bt not working
[13:37] <vikas> help
[13:38] <vikas> help
[13:38] <Sysi> !ask
[13:39] <vikas> i have microsoft multimedia keyboard bt not working
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[13:39] <Sysi> have you tried google?
[13:39] <vikas> no
[13:40] <bazhang> vikas, bluetooth?
[13:40] <vikas> and one thing i made opera as my default browser
[13:41] <vikas> no
[13:41] <vikas> wired
[13:41] <bazhang> vikas, what is wired? the MS keyboard? you want all the function keys to work, such as in Windows?
[13:42] <vikas> ya
[13:42] <vikas> i have music key, homepage key,sound key, etc
[13:43] <bazhang> right, I understand
[13:43] <vikas> is that possible will all key function like in windows
[13:44] <bazhang> vikas, exactly like in Windows? doubtful
[13:44] <vikas> it have linux support
[13:45] <bazhang> in cases such as these, I put the exact name of the keyboard  model, and the word Ubuntu, and it leads to an ubuntuforums post
[13:45] <vikas> sry dont know the model
[13:45] <bazhang> there will usually be a walkthrough (if one exists for said kb)
[13:46] <bazhang> that makes it hard to help then
[13:46] <vikas> its microsoft
[13:46] <vikas> ill see in microsoft web
[13:46] <vikas> let see ill get some solution there
[13:47] <bazhang> sure. MS has tons of models though
[13:47] <bazhang> its USB?
[13:47] <vikas> ya
[13:47] <vikas> both
[13:47] <bazhang> try typing lsusb in terminal and check if that tells you the model
[13:48] <vikas> ok
[13:48] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com the output so we can read it (dont paste in here)
[13:50] <vikas> vikas@vikas-desktop:~$ lsusb
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0421:04bd Nokia Mobile Phones
[13:50] <vikas> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:50] <bazhang> vikas, Not here
[13:50] <vikas> what is Cambridge Silicon Radio
[13:50] <bazhang> vikas I said to paste.ubuntu.com with it
[13:50] <knome> !pastebin | vikas
[13:51] <vikas> sry me new to linux
[13:51] <vikas> how to do
[13:51] <bazhang> vikas, the kb is clearly not connected via usb, but via bluetooth
[13:51] <vikas> i have bluetooth dongle
[13:51] <bazhang> vikas, open a browser, type in paste.ubuntu.com
[13:51] <knome> vikas, open firefox or your default browser, browse to paste.ubuntu.com, paste to the textbox, click paste and copy us the paste link
[13:52] <vikas> k
[13:52] <bazhang> vikas, then put the usb attachment of the kb not the the bt dongle
[13:52] <bazhang> and repeat the command lsusb
[13:52] <knome> vikas, eg. http://paste.ubuntu.com/437303/
[13:52] <vikas> no kb is ps2
[13:52] <vikas> ok
[13:52] <bazhang> well then
[13:53] <bazhang> you said earlier it was NOT bluetooth
[13:53] <vikas> ya it is not bluetooth
[13:53] <vikas> i connected kb at back of my motherboard
[13:53] <bazhang> the bt dongle attaches to what then
[13:54] <bazhang> or interacts, rather
[13:54] <vikas> to my phone
[13:55] <bazhang> vikas, have you looked on the underside of the kb to see if the model is there
[13:55] <vikas> ya its there
[13:55] <vikas> thnx
[13:56] <bazhang> np
[13:56] <vikas> rt2300
[13:56] <bazhang> rt2300 ubuntu MS keyboard  <--search terms
[13:57] <vikas> how
[13:57] <vikas> sry where
[13:57] <vikas> in google
[13:58] <bazhang> there, or ubuntuforums search bar
[13:58] <vikas> k
[13:59] <bazhang> iirc they have a peripherals group of threads
[13:59] <vikas> k i gt it
[13:59] <bazhang> found it?
[13:59] <vikas> i found the form
[14:04] <vikas> not getting it
[14:04] <bazhang> let me try
[14:05] <vikas> i go to microsoft there is no linux os
[14:05] <vikas> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/download/download.aspx?category=MK
[14:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269348 this mentions Keytouch editor
[14:06] <bazhang> !info keytouch-editor
[14:08] <vikas> where is component universe
[14:08] <bazhang> try apt-cache search keytouch in terminal
[14:09] <vikas> hay bt i am connected to ps2 connector
[14:10] <bazhang> did you try the command above
[14:10] <vikas> ya
[14:10] <vikas> now
[14:10] <bazhang> and does it show keytouch-editor
[14:11] <vikas> no
[14:11] <vikas> vikas@vikas-desktop:~$ apt-cache
[14:11] <vikas> apt 0.7.23.1ubuntu2 for i386 compiled on Oct 15 2009 19:23:17
[14:11] <vikas> Usage: apt-cache [options] command
[14:11] <vikas>        apt-cache [options] add file1 [file2 ...]
[14:11] <vikas>        apt-cache [options] showpkg pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
[14:11] <vikas>        apt-cache [options] showsrc pkg1 [pkg2 ...]
[14:11] <vikas> apt-cache is a low-level tool used to manipulate APT's binary
[14:11] <vikas> cache files, and query information from them
[14:11] <vikas> Commands:
[14:11] <vikas>    add - Add a package file to the source cache
[14:11] <vikas>    gencaches - Build both the package and source cache
[14:11] <vikas>    showpkg - Show some general information for a single package
[14:12] <vikas>    showsrc - Show source records
[14:12] <vikas>    stats - Show some basic statistics
[14:12] <bazhang> vikas, please dont paste here
[14:12] <vikas>   -c=? Read this configuration file
[14:12] <vikas>   -o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp
[14:12] <vikas> See the apt-cache(8) and apt.conf(5) manual pages for more information.
[14:12] <vikas> k
[14:12] <vikas> sry
[14:12] <bazhang> vikas, dont do it again
[14:13] <vikas> ya
[14:13] <vikas> what happened
[14:13] <vikas> ?
[14:14] <vikas> ok forget that
[14:14] <vikas> i set opera as my default browser
[14:15] <bazhang> you didn't put in the proper command.   its ----> apt-cache search keytouch  <-----  Don't paste output here vikas
[14:15] <vikas> but whenever i try to open new web site new opera popup
[14:15] <vikas> i wanna open it in new tab
[14:16] <knome> vikas, you have to change opera's settings
[14:16] <bazhang> vikas, we did not finish the KB issue
[14:16] <vikas> k
[14:16] <vikas> ok
[14:16] <bazhang> vikas, you don't want to do that?
[14:16] <vikas> ya wanna do
[14:17] <bazhang> then type the proper command as I suggest above, and don't paste the output here vikas
[14:17] <vikas> ya i did
[14:17] <bazhang> and it shows keytouch-editor ?
[14:17] <Pres-Gas> !pastebin
[14:17] <vikas> ya
[14:18] <bazhang> then install it
[14:18] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install keytouch-editor
[14:18] <vikas> wt i wanna show the screen shoot
[14:19] <vikas> how to do that
[14:19] <bazhang> vikas, please type complete words, cannot understand you
[14:20] <vikas> i wanna show u the output how i can show u
[14:20] <knome> vikas, go to paste.ubuntu.com. ok?
[14:21] <vikas> ya then i open that site
[14:21] <knome> then copy the output text
[14:21] <knome> and paste the text in the textbox you see in the site. ok?
[14:21] <knome> vikas, where it says "Content:"
[14:22] <vikas> there is paster and content
[14:22] <knome> vikas, yes, paste the output to content first
[14:22] <knome> vikas, ok?
[14:22] <vikas> what is syntax
[14:22] <vikas> what to set
[14:22] <knome> vikas, just leave it as plain text
[14:23] <vikas> ok
[14:23] <knome> vikas, then, also add "vikas" to poster. ok?
[14:23] <vikas> ya i did
[14:23] <knome> okay, then click "Paste!" and DON'T close the browser
[14:24] <vikas> i did that too
[14:24] <knome> okay
[14:24] <vikas> then
[14:24] <knome> then you have a new url in the address bar, eg. http://paste.ubuntu.com/437332/
[14:24] <knome> paste that url to this channel
[14:25] <vikas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/437328/
[14:25] <knome> great! now, whenever you need to paste anything over 1 line, use the same steps, and remember to paste the url :)
[14:26] <knome> bazhang, you're welcome
[14:26] <vikas> then how u can past the command here
[14:26] <vikas> thnx 4 the steps to explain
[14:26] <knome> vikas, sorry, i didn't understand you, can you try to rephrase?
[14:27] <knome> bazhang, (i know nothing of keytouch :))
[14:27] <vikas> k
[14:27] <bazhang> knome, sorry what?
[14:27] <knome> bazhang, you might want to tackle vikas' kb issue, right? :)
[14:27] <vikas> ther how bazhang pasted the commend of terminal here
[14:28] <bazhang> knome, he simply needs to install keytouch-editor
[14:28] <vikas> but i dont know
[14:28] <bazhang> never used it myself
[14:28] <knome> vikas, do you have a terminal window open?
[14:28] <knome> bazhang, okay.. :)
[14:28] <vikas> thnx to u people helping me
[14:29] <knome> vikas, is the kb issue solved, or do you want me to go through it with you?
[14:29] <vikas> ya i have terminal open
[14:29] <vikas> no it is not solved
[14:29] <knome> vikas, okay, type 'sudo apt-get install keytouch-editor' in the terminal without the 's
[14:29] <knome> vikas, and if you need to paste the output, please use pastebin :)
[14:31] <vikas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/437339/
[14:31] <knome> vikas, do you have synaptic or other package manager open?
[14:32] <vikas> i am updating
[14:32] <knome> vikas, okay, then wait until the updating ends and type that command again
[14:32] <knome> vikas, you can only run one update/installation/etc at a time
[14:33] <vikas> ya update is over and it says system restart is required
[14:34] <knome> vikas, you can reboot if you want, or leave that to later
[14:34] <vikas> leave that to later
[14:34] <vikas> let get back to kb
[14:34] <knome> okay, then run the command at terminal again after you've closed all the update-related windows
[14:35] <vikas> ok its getting download
[14:36] <vikas> now
[14:37] <vikas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/437341/
[14:38] <vikas> knome u there
[14:43] <vikas> any one there
[14:44] <vikas> i opened keytouch-editor
[14:45] <knome> vikas, i don't know how to use keytouch-editor, sorry
[14:45] <vikas> i know
[14:45] <vikas> bt one problem
[14:46] <vikas> every key function properly but the calci key shows the help
[14:47] <vikas> how can i change it on calci
[14:50] <knome> calci?
[14:51] <vikas> calculator
[14:54] <vikas> k bye every one thanks for help
[15:35] <khindenburg> How do you get the top/bottom menubars back?  They keep getting killed in my virtualbox guest
[15:36] <Sysi> !panels
[15:36] <khindenburg> cool txs
[15:37] <khindenburg> I had thought the OOM killer killed them, perhaps not
[18:51] <arand> User "vikas" in #ubuntu has installed ubuntu-desktop and then xubuntu-desktop, when trying to do-release-upgrade, yields http://paste.ubuntu.com/437435/ "could not calculate upgrade".
[18:52] <charlie-tca> The upgrade fails if two desktop metapackages are installed.
[18:53] <charlie-tca> The user should report a bug as it says.
[19:05] <arand> charlie-tca: Common issue?
[19:05] <charlie-tca> for those with both desktops installed, yes
[19:06] <arand> Ah, bother, user is gone now.
[19:08] <charlie-tca> he'll be back...
[19:09] <arand> Ah, already seems to be well underway in Bug #571743
[19:09] <bazhang> vikas?
[19:09] <arand> bazhang: Yep
[19:11] <xubuntu469> :)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> That's a really nice bug ;-)
[19:21] <mika__> im trying to create script to save first result with find as source_filename, but find wont stop on first hit. It will save all of the zip files to source_filename, How to stop find after first hit? My script
[19:21] <mika__> for source_filename in $(
[19:21] <mika__>     find '/home/user/packs' -type f -iname '*zip'
[19:21] <mika__> )
[19:34] <arand> mika__: for source_filename in $(find '/home/user/packs' -type f -iname '*zip' | head -n1)  (probably better ways to do it, but...)
[19:37] <moetunes> arand: he asked in #ubuntu and #kubuntu - I told him to use ls and grep - grep -m 1 will return the first line
[20:51] <subspider> hello
[20:51] <subspider> charlie-tca, how are you
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Hello, subspider
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Doing fine, yourself?
[20:53] <subspider> yes fine
[20:53] <subspider> android programming :)
[23:25] <Viking667> I've got a weird problem. I don't know how to set the console keyboard mapping. I've checked in /etc/default/console-setup, but there's nothing reflecting dvorak in the whole of /etc. My wife can't type dvorak, so how do I get console back to qwerty for her on bootup?
[23:31] <charlie-tca> Viking667: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard, Layout
[23:31] <Viking667> uh, she's not in X.
[23:31] <Viking667> And I want to set it differently for my user than for hers.
[23:32] <Viking667> I can type in both qwerty anddvorak, she only pokes.
[23:32] <charlie-tca> try running dpkg console-setup reconfigure
[23:32] <Viking667> ahh. Right. Thank you.
[23:35] <charlie-tca> I think that was wrong, should be dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[23:35] <Viking667> Yup. Figured that's what you meant
[23:36] <Viking667> Thank you. That was probably the thing I needed.
[23:36] <Viking667> Now, off to my other machine, hi ho, hi ho...
[23:39] <Viking667> awww, shyte.
[23:40] <Viking667> Now flash isnt working, and I can't even download it from adobe.
[23:44] <TheBilgeRat> in what way is it not working?  and are you i386 or x64?