/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/22/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

stlsaintyo yo yo00:26
lukjad86stlsaint !00:27
stlsaintlukjad86: sup man00:27
lukjad86stlsaint I made a remix vid on youtube that is pretty popular00:27
stlsaintlukjad86: remix of what?00:29
lukjad86stlsaint Well, kinda hard to explain...00:29
lukjad86afk00:30
stlsaintlukjad86: LOL...classic00:32
lukjad86stlsaint thanks! :D00:32
stlsaintanyone around?00:54
ddecatormaybe00:55
stlsainthey is the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv..00:56
ddecatorthe nameservers?00:57
stlsaintnevermind i found them00:58
stlsaintalright where is all my smart networking people....01:07
ZachK_hello iantlopp01:21
iantloppa'lo Zach...01:21
iantloppfinally getting ubuntu running well enough to be my main OS... I'm so stoked!01:21
iantloppeventually I'll get to wine, but for right now, I'm trying to figure out why flash slows down firefox to a bloody crawl... never really had a problem with it in Windows.01:22
stlsaintiantlopp: congrats...01:22
iantlopperr.. on this machine.01:22
ZachK_hey starcraftman01:23
ZachK_i mean stlsaint01:23
* ZachK_ hates tabfail01:23
ZachK_iantlopp: ok...so need some help then?01:23
iantloppthe strange thing is... it seems to be loading related... i.e. I go to youtube.com and start watching a vid... system slows down to nothing and jerks around, etc... IF I pause the vid and let it load for a bit, then everything works fine.01:23
iantloppyep :)01:23
ZachK_hmm01:23
iantloppit doesn't seem to want to buffer video either... it starts playing it almost immediately, and my net connection always has to buffer for 15+ seconds before it starts playing in Windows...01:24
iantlopp(you can blame the almighty Comcast for that)01:24
iantloppjust installed adblock plus, so I'm hoping that'll have some helpful effect on this.01:25
iantloppbrb, gonna test a vid.01:25
iantloppokay, definitely an improvement...01:26
iantloppbut it still takes 2-3 seconds to get into and out of full screen mode :(01:26
* iantlopp wonders if compiz might have something to do with this...01:27
* iantlopp dies a little inside.01:28
iantloppgo fig... turn off compiz. fluid flash01:28
iantloppaside from abusing the processor, why would compiz really have much affect on flash? (compiz *should* be using my laptop's GPU mostly, as opposed to the CPU, and flash is CPU intensive comparatively.01:29
ddecatorthe graphics driver makes a difference too01:33
iantloppusing the proprietary ATI driver that the system recommended.01:34
iantloppthe laptop is an HP Pavilion dv2-1030us, has an Ati Radeon 3000 gpu01:34
iantlopperr 3000 series01:34
iantloppout of curiosity, is anyone familiar with an old XP program called Sphere XP?01:36
iantloppin CCSM, what's GLib?01:38
ROFLCOPTERSsup.01:40
iantloppnada too much... just trying to figure out some issues01:44
ROFLCOPTERSorly01:44
iantloppysrly01:44
ROFLCOPTERSiantlopp, tell plz01:44
iantloppwondering why compiz would have such a great effect on flash in firefox01:44
iantloppturn compiz off... flash is smooth as hell, turn it back on... slows the computer down when I try to do anything with flash01:45
iantloppyoutube grinds to a halt to start a video...01:45
iantloppit seems to be improving with time (dunno why) but it takes a few seconds just to go full screen and get back.01:45
ROFLCOPTERSwtf01:45
ROFLCOPTERSare u noob?01:46
ROFLCOPTERSy u need compiz01:46
iantloppyes... yes I noob...01:47
iantloppI happen to like compiz... at least its gimmickyness for now...01:47
iantloppbut I have reasons to like XGL to begin with, and compiz is a means to an end... there's a 3d interface I'd *like* to see, as it worked well for what it did a few years back (called Sphere XP if anyone remembers it).01:48
iantloppBut... now I'm just more curious as to why something that *should* use mostly the GPU would hamper something that uses the cpu almost exclusively.01:48
C-Rayhello01:48
iantloppa'lo C-Ray01:49
C-Rayplease I just installed virtualbox 3.2 on my ubuntu 9.1001:49
C-Raybut am not able to run it01:49
ROFLCOPTERSiantlop01:49
ROFLCOPTERSiantlop01:49
ROFLCOPTERSwhat version of flash u usin01:49
C-Rayno shortcut01:49
iantlopproflcopters: and yes, to answer your question, I very noob... this is the first time I've got linux running on this system well enough to become my primary OS01:49
ROFLCOPTERSOH WOW.01:49
iantlopplatest version... just installed it last night.01:49
ROFLCOPTERShow01:50
ROFLCOPTERShow did u install01:50
iantloppapt-get01:50
ROFLCOPTERSo01:50
ROFLCOPTERSy dnt u try new 10.1 beta01:50
C-RayI checked the synaptic manager01:50
C-Rayeverything looks alright01:50
C-Rayhow to launch it though?01:50
ROFLCOPTERSdipship01:50
ROFLCOPTERSshit*01:51
iantlopp<ddecator> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras01:51
ROFLCOPTERSapplications >> system tools01:51
ROFLCOPTERSand01:51
ROFLCOPTERSwth u usin 9.10?01:51
iantloppwait... roflcopters: are you talking to me or c-ray?01:51
C-Rayyeah am using 9.1001:51
ROFLCOPTERSiantlopp, im telling u to try new flash01:51
C-Raybut no shortcut is created01:51
C-RayI installed the .deb package for ubuntu 9.1001:52
ROFLCOPTERSok then fuck the .deb and get the .bin or launch it from cmd line01:52
ROFLCOPTERSor01:52
ROFLCOPTERSmake a shortcut01:52
C-Raywell am not able to find it to make a shortcut01:52
ROFLCOPTERSffs01:52
ROFLCOPTERSDO YOU KNOW HOW TO OPEN A COMMAND LINE?01:53
C-Rayyes01:53
ROFLCOPTERScool01:53
C-Raytake it easy01:53
ROFLCOPTERSrun the command 'VirtualBox'01:53
ROFLCOPTERSsrsly..01:53
ROFLCOPTERSdo u know how to create a launcher?01:54
ZachK_ROFLCOPTERS: if you cannot be polite and respectful then leave01:54
C-Raywell obviously it will say it is not installed01:54
C-Raysince the version that ubuntu 9.10 supports is 3.0801:54
C-Rayand not 3.201:54
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed01:54
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed01:54
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed01:54
C-Rayit is nit01:54
C-Ray*not01:54
ROFLCOPTERSok01:54
C-RayI told you01:55
C-Raybut the package it is installed01:55
ROFLCOPTERSok01:55
ROFLCOPTERSremove the package01:55
C-RayI saw it in the synaptic manager01:55
ROFLCOPTERSremove the package01:55
C-Rayok01:55
C-Raythough I tried that01:55
C-Raybut anyway01:55
C-Rayafter that?01:55
ROFLCOPTERSk01:55
ROFLCOPTERSnow run01:55
iantloppc-ray: I actually had the same problem yesterday with ccsm... synaptics said it was installed but aptitude said it was not... as synaptics is just a gui to aptitude, I'd have imagined them to say the same thing... but check aptitude to see if it's actually installed.01:56
C-Rayoh I see01:56
C-Rayso you think synaptic is just reporting01:56
C-Ray...01:56
C-Raywell01:56
ROFLCOPTERS'wget http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.0/VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run;chmod a+x VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run;sudo sh VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run'01:56
iantloppI'm thinking it's reporting improperly, though i don't know why.01:56
ROFLCOPTERScan u handle that?01:56
C-Rayok thanks, I will try that01:57
C-Ray;D01:57
ROFLCOPTERSand after you do that shit01:57
ROFLCOPTERSthen do01:57
ROFLCOPTERS'sudo apt-get install dkms'01:57
ROFLCOPTERSso that the kernel module will stay installed01:57
iantloppI'm still learning apt, but so far, it's been flawless... dunno how to use it to see what is or is not installed other than to try to install something with it.01:57
ROFLCOPTERSwhen you do upgrades and shit01:57
ZachK_!language | ROFLCOPTERS01:57
VotebotROFLCOPTERS: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:57
ROFLCOPTERSomg Votebot01:57
ROFLCOPTERSlol01:57
ROFLCOPTERSdidnt read that btw01:57
ROFLCOPTERSbut anyways..01:58
stlsaintiantlopp: what are you trying to do?01:58
ROFLCOPTERSstlsaint, his flash slow with compiz01:58
pleia2ROFLCOPTERS: your help style is a bit aggressive, can you please listen to ZachK_ and tone it down a bit?01:58
iantloppat the moment, trying to determine, in a purely mental capacity, why Compiz has much to do with why Flash is slow.01:58
ROFLCOPTERSPRINCESS LEIA01:58
ROFLCOPTERSdidnt read.01:58
C-Raywell I am installing it now01:58
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, cool.01:58
ROFLCOPTERSu removed the deb right?01:59
C-Rayyeah01:59
stlsaintcompiz is a bit of a hog in general... hehe01:59
ROFLCOPTERScool.01:59
ROFLCOPTERSyeah once you like01:59
iantloppstlsaint: I'm beginning to understand that...01:59
ROFLCOPTERSfigure out nobody cares about your desktop01:59
ROFLCOPTERSthen you'll rm compiz01:59
ROFLCOPTERSit took me like.. a year.01:59
stlsainti use compiz do to the niffty desktop effects....thats all for me01:59
iantlopphonestly, what I'd like to see of compiz, eventually is a completely renovated 3d interface, similar to a package I used to use called Sphere XP.02:00
ROFLCOPTERSi have like02:00
ROFLCOPTERScompiz enabled02:00
ROFLCOPTERSminimally02:00
ROFLCOPTERSfor awm02:00
ROFLCOPTERSi love that shit.02:00
iantloppawm?02:00
ROFLCOPTERSawn*02:00
stlsaintiantlopp: dont get too used to compiz...its soon to be removed on default installs02:00
ROFLCOPTERShold up02:00
ROFLCOPTERSwell02:00
ROFLCOPTERSiantlopp,02:01
iantloppstlsaint: dang... stinks.02:01
ROFLCOPTERSits like the mac doc02:01
ROFLCOPTERSdock*02:01
stlsaintdock sucks IMO02:01
pleia2ROFLCOPTERS: seriously, stop it with the foul language02:01
iantlopp*blinkblinks* never use macs02:01
pleia2it's not at all welcome here02:01
ROFLCOPTERSstlsaint, yeah but like it rocks for grouping your shit and they have some sweet aps. like cpu monitor and this popup terminal02:01
ZachK_ROFLCOPTERS: enough NOW02:02
ROFLCOPTERSwtf is wrong with you?02:02
ROFLCOPTERSit's not like02:02
ROFLCOPTERSi'm cussing you out02:02
ROFLCOPTERSsrsly02:02
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, status on install02:02
DarkwingDuckROFLCOPTERS: It is still the use of Language.02:02
ZachK_!topic | ROFLCOPTERS02:02
VotebotROFLCOPTERS: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic02:02
ROFLCOPTERSdude02:02
ROFLCOPTERSvotebot is on ignore02:03
iantlopproflcopters: so basicaly... you're not crapping ON him, you're just crapping randomly around the room... and this is supposed to make us feel better, how?02:03
ZachK_ROFLCOPTERS: well stop using foul language....it's gone on long enough02:03
ROFLCOPTERSZachK_02:03
ROFLCOPTERSare you like02:03
ROFLCOPTERS10?02:03
DarkwingDuckROFLCOPTERS: There are rules. Follow them please.02:04
ZachK_ROFLCOPTERS: actually i'm near 20 but that doesn't matter02:04
ROFLCOPTERSdo you tell people to "Stop using the foul language" irl?02:04
lukjad86ROFLCOPTERS Enough, this is a logged official Ubuntu channel.02:04
ROFLCOPTERSLOL LUKJAD00702:04
C-Rayyeah it is still installing02:04
ROFLCOPTERShi dude02:04
lukjad86ROFLCOPTERS And I do tell people who require my help to treat me and my coworkers to act in a respectful manner02:05
ROFLCOPTERScool story bro.02:06
C-RayROFLCOPTERS, after it is done02:06
C-Raywhat I should do?02:06
DarkwingDuckHah. Google is epic today02:06
ROFLCOPTERSDarkwingDuck, dude02:06
DarkwingDuckYeah?02:06
ROFLCOPTERSu was in french class and i went to google02:06
iantloppDarkwingDuck: pacman?02:06
ROFLCOPTERSand the teacher bitched02:06
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: Yup02:06
ROFLCOPTERSbecause she thought i was playing pacman02:06
DarkwingDuckROFLCOPTERS: hehehe02:07
iantloppDarkwingDuck: my business blocked google today because of it...02:07
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: LOL02:07
iantlopp"Entertainment" is blocked....02:07
iantloppnormally google is fine...02:07
ROFLCOPTERSi have ssh tunnels on port 80 to evade my school's blocks02:07
iantloppwhat really gets me, is they never even let us do google image searches... but bing, which has no way of blocking nudity, is perfectly fine.02:07
ROFLCOPTERSthey got a p good system tho. blocks pages by keyword and shit.02:07
iantlopproflcopters: tone down the language02:08
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: Try working with Military Internet... Sheesh02:08
ROFLCOPTERS<C-Ray> ROFLCOPTERS, after it is done02:08
ROFLCOPTERS<C-Ray> what I should do?02:08
iantloppDD: hah, I can imagine...02:08
ROFLCOPTERSit should like02:08
ROFLCOPTERSiantlopp, ok02:08
ROFLCOPTERSu know nick complete02:08
ROFLCOPTERSright?02:08
ROFLCOPTERSsrsly02:08
iantloppyou know, how to type full words right? seriously02:09
ROFLCOPTERSyh02:09
ROFLCOPTERStype like the first letters of a nick and press tab pro02:09
ROFLCOPTERSbro*02:09
ROFLCOPTERSit will do the rest02:09
iantloppfine... I still prefer to type02:09
ROFLCOPTERSk02:09
ROFLCOPTERSemma02:09
ROFLCOPTERSC-Ray, wth still installing?02:10
C-Rayyeah like 9002:10
ROFLCOPTERSoh02:10
* ROFLCOPTERS hasnt used the .run since like vbox 2.002:10
C-Rayslow speed here dude02:10
emmaWhich one is the troll?02:10
lukjad86emma ROFLCOPTERS02:10
ZachK_emma: ROFLCOPTERS02:10
AnastasiusHe doesn't seem very troll like to me.02:11
iantloppemma: roflcopters02:11
ROFLCOPTERSROFLCOPTERS02:11
lukjad86Anastasius You missed his performance02:11
ROFLCOPTERSgod i with freenode had can_flood02:11
C-RayROFLCOPTERS what does your username means?02:11
AnastasiusOh.  ROFLCOPTERS, can you do a repeat performance?  I missed the first one.02:12
ROFLCOPTERSyou've never seen a roflcopter?02:12
MrPancakeIs ROFLCOPTERS trolling to a point where ops should be summoned?02:12
ROFLCOPTERSidfk what they're talking about02:12
ROFLCOPTERS<MrPancake> Is ROFLCOPTERS trolling to a point where ops should be summoned?02:12
ROFLCOPTERSoh my god, fucking lol.02:12
MrPancakeLanguage, ROFLCOPTERS02:12
ROFLCOPTERSim about to gtfo in a min tho anyways02:12
emmaAnastasius: hehe :)02:12
ROFLCOPTERSmy site's sql database is like fucked.02:12
AnastasiusWhat the... ?02:12
MrPancakeLanguage.  Seriously.02:12
lukjad86MrPancake Nicely done :)02:13
AnastasiusOkay then.02:13
ZachK_thanks MrPancake and the rest of you operators02:13
iantloppmrpancake: seems willing enough to try to help, but keeps cursing throughout dialogue, regardless of other user's continued requests otherwise... then acts very sardonically to everyone who suggests he be a bit nicer.02:13
iantloppthat's what we're talking about MrPancake and Anastasius02:14
MrPancake!ops ROFLCOPTERS Language, please handle accordingly.02:14
Izinucs!ops | ROFLCOPTERS --- Won't stop swearing02:14
ZachK_hey Chesamo!02:14
lukjad86iantlopp Agreed.02:14
ChesamoHey ZachK_02:15
starcraftmanMrPancake: thanks.02:15
ChesamoWho won't stop cussin'?02:15
ZachK_Chesamo: how gows it pal?02:15
* DarkwingDuck goes back to writing a resume and looking for a job02:15
iantloppChesamo: the suddenly quiet ROFLCOPTERS02:15
iantloppbest of luck DarkwingDuck02:15
ChesamoZachK_ Good, good. Just got back from the Relay for Life thing my brother's participating in.02:15
ZachK_DarkwingDuck: i'm looking for one too....and college02:16
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: Medical discharges from the military suck02:16
C-Raywhere is ROFLCOPTERS?02:16
iantloppthe job I have right now, I have because I  can't find another one.02:16
ZachK_Chesamo: awesome02:16
iantloppOUCH02:16
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: I know... with 2 1/2 years left on my contract...02:16
iantlopp* MrPancake sets mode +q #ubuntu-beginners *!*@ord-69-171-163-232.evdo.leapwireless.net02:19
iantloppwhat's +q mean?02:19
DarkwingDuckquiet.02:19
lukjad86iantlopp quiet02:19
DarkwingDuckiantlopp: It's the BIG mute button02:19
iantloppAHH... most amusing02:19
iantloppthe opposite of voice02:19
lukjad86eyp02:19
DarkwingDuckMore frustrating then a +b02:19
* iantlopp smiles a bit02:19
* Chesamo flails her arms and scrabbles at the tape over her mouth02:19
ChesamoOh, it's not like +m then02:19
ZachK_lol Chesamo02:19
Chesamo+q on the servers I'm used to is Owner02:19
ChesamoAs in, channel registrar02:19
iantlopphmm... possibly not the right place to ask this, but as the program I usually use is windows only... what's a good linux program to save .flv files from youtube?02:19
iantloppI'm trying to get the "Matrix runs on Windows" video, then strip the last few seconds of audio, and put that as the startup sound on my computer.02:19
starcraftmaniantlopp: just search for firefox addons. There are hundreds.02:19
MrPancakewget02:19
iantloppstarcraftman: last time I tried ( a while back, admitedly) most failed horridly with youtube... Orbit came through with style, so I got that and stuck with it... perhaps things have improved, though./02:19
Izinucsiantlopp: there's a youtube save tool for Firefox as a plugin I think02:19
AnastasiusDownloadHelper02:22
Anastasiushttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/02:22
* DarkwingDuck snickers02:22
ChesamoYaaaaay, they left02:22
ChesamoYou know how I deal with trolls on my server?02:22
starcraftmaniantlopp: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/ < works for me.02:22
ZachK_Chesamo: how02:22
DarkwingDuckhack the IP? Chesamo?02:22
Chesamo./kick (K-lined) usually tricks them into thinking they're K-lined02:22
ZachK_what is K-lined?02:22
iantloppthanks much starcraftman02:22
ChesamoK-lining is a full-server ban02:22
ZachK_ah...02:22
ZachK_i see02:22
Chesamo"Kill line"02:22
ZachK_gotcha02:22
ZachK_Chesamo: what is your server?02:22
ChesamoThe URL?02:22
iantloppseen some classic ones on ba.... err.. a foul-mouthed website that logs irc chats :-p02:22
ZachK_Chesamo: well a channel i mean02:23
ChesamoIt's not on FreeNode02:23
ZachK_Chesamo: ok...what network then?02:23
ZachK_Chesamo: just curious02:23
Chesamoheh. irc.sublevel21.com:6667/#SubLevel2102:23
iantloppstarcraftman - worked a treat :)02:25
AnastasiusYou're welcome.02:25
starcraftmaniantlopp: your welcome, have fun with sound.02:26
iantloppavidemux should work just fine for separating the sound and video, and, as always, audacity is great for audio editing :)02:26
iantloppgrr.. need to stop messing with synaptic02:31
ZachK_oy02:32
newubuntuDownloaded Ubuntu 10.04 LTS twice and burned both CDROM and DVD images.  It starts to load then get error Installation Failed, The installer encountered an unrecoverable error.  A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again.  When the desktop session runs, it asks for a username and password.  I restarted and tried Try Ubuntu without installing, install Ubuntu etc...02:35
Chesamonewubuntu: Did you check the disc?02:36
newubuntummm..you mean the checksum?  no i didn't.  I figured burning it two different ways and also downloading twice wouldn't give me a corrupt file02:38
newubuntuI googled and found others get this error in the past.  Is it because I am using an old Sempron chip PC?02:39
Chesamonewubuntu: I meant doing the "Check disc for defects" on the CD's boot screen02:40
newubuntuyes i did.  there were none.  it was good02:41
Chesamonewubuntu: are you on the Sempron 64, or the older x86 Sempron?02:42
newubuntux86 sempron02:42
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Chesamonewubuntu: Troubleshooting this kind of thing isn't my forte, try hanging out and waiting until someone more experienced than I am swings by02:50
newubuntu should I repost the question? how does that work?02:51
Chesamonewubuntu: Try the forums, actually. http://ubuntuforums.org/02:51
newubuntuthank02:52
Chesamonewubuntu: No problem. Reposting the question in here wouldn't hurt either, just not too too often.02:52
newubuntuthanks02:52
iantlopphmm... according to its website, Media Info is supposed to be available for ubuntu, but I can't find it in aptitude...03:10
iantloppahh, nevermind... if I add a repository to my list, it can be removed, right?03:15
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starcraftmaniantlopp: hi03:29
starcraftmaniantlopp: yes, you can remove respoistories from the sources list later.03:29
starcraftmanIt's recommended you keep them for updates though and reinstallation.03:29
iantloppno, I just added a repository for a PPA, and it's all "do at your own risk" yada yada...03:30
iantloppI just want to get mediainfo on this system...03:31
iantloppit's a great app I use all the time in Windows, and was hoping to use it in ubuntu as well, and as there IS an ubuntu release... was trying to use aptitude to install it, but now I can't seem to find it :(03:31
starcraftmaniantlopp: ah alright. Hmmm, can I see intallation instructions.03:31
iantlopphttps://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/mediainfo is linked to off of mediainfo.sourceforge.net for users of newer versions of ubuntu than the "official" releases03:33
starcraftmaniantlopp: on lucid right?03:34
iantloppyeah03:34
iantloppI did the whole add-apt-repository line, but aptitude doesn't find it03:34
starcraftmaniantlopp: first you added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/shiki/mediainfo/ubuntu lucid main to the sources file ya?03:35
Francis1hello03:36
starcraftmaniantlopp: then import key with > sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F9D8BC5403:36
iantloppno... I just did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:shiki/mediainfo03:36
Francis1can someone please help me how to enable my java03:36
starcraftmaniantlopp: ah, then did you do sudo apt-get update ?03:36
starcraftmanFrancis1: hi there03:36
Francis1starcraftman: hello sir03:36
iantloppnope...03:37
iantloppguess I need to.03:37
starcraftmaniantlopp: have to refresh package list after every change to sources.03:37
starcraftmanThe golden rule.03:37
iantloppAHHH!!!03:37
iantloppokay :)03:37
Francis1can some1 please help me :p03:37
iantloppFrancis1: it is possible, ask the question!03:37
starcraftmanFrancis1: sure, so a clean install and want java right?03:37
Francis1i just did xd03:37
iantloppoh, heh... didn't see, sorry03:37
Francis1hmm ok so i was playing this game earlier03:38
Francis1but when i upgraded my system to 10.04 Lst?03:38
Francis1i forgot03:38
Francis1anyways, then i tried to open the game and it says i have to install Java03:38
starcraftmanFrancis1: can you open a terminal please? applications > accessories > terminal and type in:03:38
iantloppstarcraftman: these little details... one day I'll know them! heh03:38
starcraftmansudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras03:38
Francis1ok hold on :D03:39
starcraftmanFrancis1: then type your password, ^ That command installs all extra packages including java plugin.03:39
Francis1it says unable to lock03:39
Francis1waaa03:39
Francis1: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:39
starcraftmanFrancis1: hmmm, do you have any other software installation services open? Like ubuntu software centre? Or synaptic?03:40
iantloppstarcraftman: okay, it installed media info, but no shortcut shows up under Applications... (wow I feel like such  windows user). as I don't know where they're installed to on the computer, I wouldn't know how to make a shortcut for it.03:40
Francis1no clue like srsly lol03:40
Francis1i just use this pc to play games >.<03:40
starcraftmaniantlopp: check applications menu.03:40
iantloppdoesn't show up under applications03:40
starcraftmaniantlopp: none of the subfolders?03:41
iantloppoh wait... one moment.03:41
starcraftmanFrancis1: hmmmm03:41
iantloppno...03:41
Francis1XD03:41
Francis1hold on mate03:41
starcraftmanFrancis1: k, can you open up System > Administration > System Monitor and look for names like "Synaptic" or "software centre" or "update manager" any of these could be using your package management back end.03:42
Francis1ok03:43
iantloppI was checking under System-Administration Main Menu to see if it was there, and just not ticked, but it's not even there :(03:43
starcraftmanThat prevents you from installing other stuff. If so, preferable to wait until they stop updating.03:43
starcraftmaniantlopp: it is gui program?03:43
iantloppone assumes so... it is in Windows.03:43
starcraftmaniantlopp: try on a terminal just doing the name of the package.03:43
iantloppheh... it's in terminal03:43
Francis1starcraftman: sypnatic package manager?03:44
iantloppahh, there we go... hence my problem :) heh.03:44
starcraftmanFrancis1: aye, close that if it's open but not doing anything.03:44
iantloppconsidering the program, wouldn't mind a gui front end, but it's certainly not needed.03:44
starcraftmanThen try the command again.03:44
Francis1starcraftman: Im still upgrading mate03:45
Francis1almost done03:45
Francis1like 3-5 mins03:45
starcraftmanFrancis1: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh03:45
starcraftmanFrancis1: well ya didn't say so, I thought ya was finished upgrading. Then just reboot after and install extras.03:45
starcraftmanGotta say these minor details, don't kill the upgrade.03:46
Francis1ok I'll bug you again if it don't work ;)03:46
Francis1ok :D03:46
Francis1almost done Xd03:46
iantloppyay! got the audio out... but it's .aac03:47
iantlopphehe03:47
Francis1are u having problems w/ audio as well ian?03:47
iantloppI'll figure this out, I know it.03:47
iantloppoh no no...03:47
Francis1oh ok03:47
iantlopptrying to rip apart an .flv file for the audio...03:47
Francis1ok :D03:47
Francis1hold on03:47
iantloppthe audio kept messing up, no matter what file type I tried to turn it into,03:47
iantlopphowever, I did mediainfo on it, found out it was .aac03:47
iantloppand while my media player plays it, audacity doesn't support it at all.03:48
iantloppat least, not with my current setup.03:48
starcraftmaniantlopp: really? You sure?03:48
iantloppone moment... I'll give you the error message03:48
starcraftmaniantlopp: you got all extra codecs installed from restricted?03:48
iantloppshould have them, I did the ubuntu-restricted-extras install03:49
Francis1this is what i hate03:49
iantloppwhuzzat?03:49
iantloppstarcraftman,03:49
starcraftmaniantlopp: yes?03:49
iantlopp"Audacity recognized the type of the file '/home.......'. Importers supposedly supporting such files are: FFmpeg-comatible files, but none of them understood this file format."03:50
starcraftmaniantlopp: problem appears to be ffmpeg is lacking support for aac interpreting, ffmpeg I guess used for back end of audacity.03:52
starcraftmanI think there used to be a ffmpeg version with aac but it's patent encumbered and not official.03:52
iantlopppossibly... I did an ffmpeg install, in fact that's what I used to demux the .flv file to create the .aac file03:52
iantloppmethinks his update finished03:54
starcraftmaniantlopp: guess so, and I don't know how to fix ffmpeg support. Maybe convert the aac to something else first to edit?03:54
iantloppwas going to use audacity to convert... heh03:55
starcraftmaniantlopp: hehehe03:55
iantloppround and round the mulberry bush!03:55
iantloppwhat would you recommend as the best media player for ubuntu?03:56
starcraftmaniantlopp: soundkonverter is a good sound converter, think it works for aac too.03:56
starcraftmanvlc is a good player.03:56
* iantlopp shudders a little03:56
starcraftmaniantlopp: no like vlc?03:56
iantloppvlc has been hating me in Windows of late... switched to KMPlayer03:56
iantloppit hates HD03:57
iantloppwhile KMPlayer works wonders... but no linux version03:57
starcraftmaniantlopp: i dunno, works fine for me. Make sure you have graphics driver installed?03:57
starcraftmanmplayer is available on linux.03:57
iantloppI've installed mplayer...03:57
starcraftmankmplayer is a package.03:57
iantloppany good gui front ends?03:57
iantloppahh.. yes... that03:58
iantloppit's not really...03:58
iantloppit's a same name gui front end for mplayer, now that I think about it...03:58
iantloppmight be worth checking out.03:58
Francis1starcraftman: sory about that03:58
starcraftmaniantlopp: it is kde, if you want gnome use gnome-mplayer03:58
Francis1ok I downloaded this iced software>?03:58
starcraftmanor smplayer03:58
iantloppwell compiz03:58
Francis1ok how toinstall java now :s03:58
Francis1to install*03:58
starcraftmanFrancis1: try terminal command?03:59
iantloppsudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras03:59
Francis1what do I put sir03:59
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iantloppthen type your password :)03:59
Francis1ty03:59
starcraftmanFrancis1: applications > Accessories > Terminal, paste command in there.03:59
Francis1it's reading now03:59
Francis1:P03:59
iantloppcan mplayer be used to convert audio?04:01
starcraftmaniantlopp: I think so, I'm not a huge converter.04:02
Francis1wow i keep on disconnecting04:02
Francis1since i upgraded :o04:02
starcraftmaniantlopp: doesn't handbrake now do universal conversion?04:02
Francis1like i'd lost my connection but other pc's connection are fine04:02
iantlopphandbrake? never heard of itl.04:02
starcraftmanFrancis1: interesting, I dunno why. Wireless?04:02
iantloppof it, rather.04:03
Francis1ya04:03
duanedesignSound Converter04:03
duanedesignis a good, well sound converter :P04:03
Francis2wow i got disconnected again lol04:04
iantloppjust need it for one file for the moment... was hoping not to have to install any more software for this.. heh.04:04
starcraftmanhmmm, I'm gonna have to go, later guys. Take care.04:04
Francis2when i disconnect, I suspend and turn on and internet is back04:04
iantloppalready installed ffmpeg, mplayer, mediainfo, audacity04:04
Francis2wth04:04
iantloppand a youtube downloader04:04
Francis2starcraftman: bye mate04:04
iantloppthanks much for your help starcraftman04:04
Francis2wth is up w/ my internet XD04:05
Francis24th time it disconnects me lol04:05
Francis1damn wth is happening >.<04:06
Francis15th time i got disconnected since i upgraded04:07
Francis1great04:07
duanedesigniantlopp: http://www.hiteshagrawal.com/ffmpeg/converting-audiovideos-using-ffmpeg04:07
iantlopphttp://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_audio_files heh... I just found a way to do it using mplayer04:07
iantloppthough I don't understand the syntax in mine04:07
duanedesigniantlopp: ahh, cool04:08
Francis16th time i got disconnected...04:08
Francis1duanedesign: do you remember me :D04:08
iantloppduanedesign: thanks for the link, I used yours and it worked great :)04:09
iantloppnow for audacity04:09
duanedesigniantlopp: great. Ill add that to my bookmarks. Im sure Ill need to do that sometime04:10
duanedesignFrancis1: hmmmm, My memory is not something i would consider my strength04:10
Francis1aw ok :P04:11
Francis1can some1 please help me04:11
duanedesign:)04:11
Francis1I instaled this Icedtea web browser plugin already04:11
Francis1but my java isn't working still04:11
duanedesignFrancis1: using Lucid?04:11
Francis1darn this is frustrating :s04:11
Francis1no clue04:12
Francis1I just upgraded my software a couple of mins. ago04:12
duanedesignsure.04:12
Francis1then java became uninstalled04:12
duanedesignuname -a04:12
Francis1is that for me?04:12
Francis1;[04:12
duanedesignFrancis1: sorry. this command will tell me what version you have.   uname -a04:12
Francis1ok hold on04:13
Francis1that in terminal too?04:13
Francis1Linux acerlaptop 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux04:13
Francis1there XD04:13
duanedesignFrancis1: ok. Open System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager04:15
Francis1duanedesign: so what do I do :P04:15
Francis1done04:15
Francis1duanedesign: then? :P04:15
duanedesignin 'Quick Search' type: sun-java604:16
Francis1ok done04:16
duanedesignsun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin04:16
Francis1there's sun java-bin/jre/plugin04:16
Francis1yes04:16
Francis1then what to do lol04:16
duanedesignr-click select for installation04:16
duanedesignthose three04:17
duanedesignclick apply04:17
Francis1ok so i'll shift and lick three of them04:17
Francis1options are"removal and completely removal" lol04:17
duanedesignFrancis1: then they are already installed04:18
duanedesignFrancis1: if they have a greenbox04:18
Francis1how come that my java isn't working then :s04:18
Francis1this totally sucks ;[04:18
Francis1I'm only using this software to play games but not i can't play on it anymore04:19
Francis1what do I do now ;[04:19
Francis1maybe you can help me to run this Icedtea web browser plugin that I installed?04:19
Francis1coz this is a missing plugin...04:19
Francis1duanedesign: XD04:19
duanedesignFrancis1: are you using Firefox?04:20
Francis1yes sire04:20
Francis1sir*04:20
duanedesigndo you see the icedtea plugin when you put in the address bar of the browser: about:plugins04:22
Francis1wow this is really messed up.. 7th time i got disconnected since I upgraded...04:23
Francis1duanedesign: u still there/04:23
duanedesignyep04:23
Francis1im always geting disconnected and i dont know hy04:23
Francis1damn04:23
Francis1duanedesign: ok so nxt step pls04:24
duanedesignis their a site inparticular that you are trying to get to work?04:24
Francis1www.runescape.com04:24
Francis1lol04:24
duanedesignok04:25
duanedesignseems to work here.04:25
Francis1it was working to me also04:26
duanedesignhow did you install the icedtea plugin04:26
Francis1hmm04:26
Francis1from java Xd04:26
duanedesignok04:26
duanedesignFrancis1: open the Synaptic Package Manager again04:27
Francis1ok hold on04:27
Francis1done04:28
duanedesignicedtea6  <- quick search04:28
duanedesignsee if it has a greenbox04:29
Francis1it has04:29
Francis1duanedesign: it has a greenbox04:29
duanedesignFrancis1: hmm. ok04:29
duanedesignsearch for:  openjdk-6-jre04:29
duanedesignis that installedA?04:30
Francis1ther's this application "openjdk-6-jre-lib04:30
Francis1and the color of box is white04:30
Francis1i mean Headless.. wasn't lib04:31
duanedesignmark it for installation.04:32
duanedesignshould pull in the others04:32
Francis1there are like 3 more white boxes here04:33
Francis1and done for marking04:33
duanedesignopenjdk -6-jre-headless will install a few other packages with it04:34
Francis1how tho lol04:34
duanedesignlike openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-lib04:34
Francis1how to do that04:35
Francis1sorry i dont know04:35
duanedesignFrancis1: r-click. Select for installation04:35
duanedesignit will ask to make additional changes.04:35
duanedesignclick 'Mark'04:35
duanedesignthen 'Apply'04:36
iantlopphmm... can't copy a file to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo04:36
Francis1ok i marked for reinstallation04:36
Francis1then?04:36
duanedesignif its reinstallation its already installed04:36
Francis1i told you it was :P04:37
duanedesignok04:38
Francis1nxt step pls04:38
Francis1i gotta go in 15 mins :[04:38
Francis1ok i applied04:39
duanedesignwhat do you get from    sudo update-java-alternatives -l04:40
duanedesignin the Terminal04:41
pablo_22quit04:41
duanedesign:)04:41
Francis1duanedesign: what do i do now xd04:42
iantloppbrb, testing something04:42
duanedesignFrancis1: open firefox04:43
Francis1i did04:43
duanedesignFrancis1: go to : about:plugins04:43
duanedesignabout:plugins04:43
Francis1how lol04:43
duanedesignput it in your address bar04:44
duanedesignwhere the web adress goes. Instead of www. google.com. Put about:plugins04:45
Francis1how to do that XD04:45
Francis1can u please tell me step by step04:45
Francis1im real cunfuse im sorry04:45
duanedesignok04:45
duanedesignin firefox at the top of the brwser there is a web address04:45
duanedesignhttp://.....04:46
Francis1yes04:46
Francis1and then04:46
duanedesignok put your cursor in that window04:46
duanedesignby clicking on it04:46
Francis1ya done04:46
Francis1then lol04:46
duanedesigndelete what is there04:46
Francis1then what do I type04:47
duanedesignabout:plugind=s04:47
duanedesignoops04:47
duanedesignabout:plugins04:47
duanedesign a page should come up showing your plugins04:47
Francis1type "about plugins"?04:47
duanedesignwith:04:48
duanedesignabout:plugins04:48
Francis1darn it04:48
Francis1can we pls continue 2morrow04:49
duanedesignsure ill be here04:49
duanedesignjust ping me04:49
Francis1I really have to go and i really appreciate your help04:49
Francis1thanks a lot for your time04:49
duanedesignno problemo04:49
Francis1have a wonderful day, goodbye04:49
Francis1gracias04:49
duanedesigncya04:49
duanedesigno/04:49
iantloppokay... here's a strange one... how do you change the startup sound?04:50
iantloppthose goofy drums are driving me batty04:50
iantloppI manage to get it to play my sound file AFTER I login, but I want the sound file to play before, to replace the goofy drums at the beginning.04:50
ddecatoriantlopp: System > Administration > Login Screen. there is an option to disable the login sound04:57
iantloppthat's not the sound I'm trying to get rid of...04:58
iantloppor change...04:58
iantloppthat sound ONLY plays AFTER typing in your password.04:58
iantloppbefore doing so, when the system first boots to the login screen, there is a short clip of some drums... THAT sound must go.04:58
ddecatoroh yah, forgot about that sound04:58
ddecatorhow did i disable that...04:58
iantloppthe sound is /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg04:59
iantloppI could always delete that.04:59
ddecatori think that's what i did, haha, let me check04:59
iantloppor gconftool-2 to stop it.04:59
iantloppbut I wish there was a proper way to change it, rather than to delete that file and rename another file to system-ready.ogg04:59
ddecatoryah i don't have that sound file04:59
ddecatori know they're going to work on the sounds for marverick (at least update them, not sure if they'll make them easier to disable)05:00
ddecatorthey kinda forgot about them for lucid :p05:00
iantloppthey went from Karmic (loads of sounds that can be easily changed) to lucid, 5 total sound options, very difficult to change...05:01
iantloppit's... rather stupid.05:01
iantlopphttp://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28407/How_to_change_the_startup_music_in_Ubuntu that's the menu in Karmic...05:02
iantloppwhat happened to it in Lucid?05:02
iantloppI only get the option to change the alert sound05:03
paultagdrubin, poke05:49
paultagdragondon, I need ya05:49
paultagerm not you dragondon, I'm sure you are cool05:49
paultagbut I need drubin05:49
kos_just got ubuntu up and running on this system, every now and then, I'll get a sound clip playing, but It usually only plays part of the sound.06:09
kos_videos, regardless of player, always play at about double speed.06:09
kos_any clues as to why?06:09
kos_okay, nevermind... changing audio from digital audio out via HDMI to analog audio out seems to have fixed both audio and video problems, though I'm nonplussed as to why06:14
ddecatorhard to say, sound-related issues tend to be tricky06:20
ddecatorand he got off a while ago didn't he...06:20
* ddecator needs to check that before replying06:20
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aluexneed help.07:01
aluexwhen i start up,lots of tasks "Starting up file manager" start.07:01
mohi1wb hobgoblin07:34
hobgoblinhi there mohi107:34
mohi1how are ya hobgoblin!07:35
hobgoblinpretty good thanks - you?07:35
mohi1doing fine hobgoblin =]07:35
hobgoblin:)07:36
hobgoblinyou not joined BT yet?07:36
mohi1i think i sent a request to add me i think07:36
paultagheyy hobgoblin07:36
hobgoblinhi paultag07:36
paultaghobgoblin, how goes?07:37
mohi1but i think i ll be active w/o being voiced :)07:37
hobgoblinpaultag: where you been lately ? do we smell or something :)07:37
hobgoblinmohi1: well yes - plenty of that in here :)07:37
mohi1:)07:37
paultaghobgoblin, yeah, I'm drunk as hell07:37
paultagbut not that drunk07:37
hobgoblinha ha ha07:38
paultagjust kinda07:38
hobgoblinI find pleasantly uninhibited to be the best point to be at :)07:38
LilsavalexEverytime i try and mount my other hardrive. This appears "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup: magic: 0x6e696268  size: 4096  usa_ofs: 8192  usa_count: 240: Invalid argument Actual VCN (0x0) of index buffer is different from expected VCN (0x5). Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID har07:58
Lilsavalexsage of the /f parameter is very important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.07:58
Lilsavalexhello?08:02
mohi1Lilsavalex, so the second hard drive is not booting up. and whats the name you gace for it?08:04
mohi1gave*08:04
LilsavalexSba isnt booting up08:05
LilsavalexI put a thread on ubuntu forums, if you want to take a full look at my issue08:05
aluexhelp,when i start up,lots of tasks "Starting up file manager" start.08:06
mohi1waiting for it =]08:06
Lilsavalexhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148999708:06
LilsavalexRead the whole thread =]08:06
LilsavalexThanks for the help, i appreciate it <308:06
mohi1aluex, looked at system-> Administration-> startup manager??08:07
aluexmohi1, actually ,my system menu is empty now..08:08
aluex:(08:08
mohi1brb. relatives in home08:08
aluexYes?08:09
mohi1aluex, you are using fluxbox?08:10
aluexno.but what is that?08:10
aluexI m using gnome08:11
mohi1Lilsavalex, you tried the comment of using Live CD in #908:14
mohi1aluex, well you have no panels?08:15
Lilsavalexim using the live cd now08:15
aluexI have one on the top08:15
LilsavalexDid you go to my thread and look through all of it?08:16
mohi1Lilsavalex, yeah and so only i am asking ya. you followed the steps in #9?08:16
mohi1ok you have the system menu or lost it??08:17
mohi1aluex, ^^08:17
LilsavalexWhich one is "step" 908:17
Lilsavalexnvm08:17
LilsavalexYupp08:17
mohi1Lilsavalex, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9340717&postcount=908:17
Lilsavalexi tried step nine08:17
Lilsavalextheres a second page08:18
Lilsavalexnot sure if you didnt see it08:18
mohi1Lilsavalex, try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb1 I added "1" after sdb08:21
mohi1aluex, there??08:21
Lilsavalexill try08:21
mohi1ok =]08:21
aluex?08:21
mohi1aluex, you dont have system menu there??08:22
mohi1on your top panel?08:22
aluexi have system menu,but it is empty08:23
aluexalmost empty08:23
aluexand i cannot run ala carte08:23
Lilsavalexit doesnt work08:24
Lilsavalexi get an error08:24
mohi1eh. talsemgeest got in at right time. help needed  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=934071708:26
talsemgeestLilsavalex: All I can suggest is that you go through the instructions for the ubuntu bootloader on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101470808:30
mohi1Lilsavalex, your machine just goes up with win rather running grub right?08:30
ddecatoraluex: what is missing from you System menu?08:30
ddecatoryour*08:30
LilsavalexIt goes up with windows, but somehow when i did testdisk or w/e that guy on my thread told me to do08:31
LilsavalexMy windows got fucked up08:31
hobgoblinLilsavalex: language please08:31
Lilsavalexsorry08:31
Lilsavalexdidnt really know we couldnt cuss08:31
LilsavalexMy windows got messed* up08:31
mohi1hobgoblin, ty. i was supposed to say and please make yor presence =]08:31
LilsavalexAnd everytime i try and boot into the linux hardrive, it tells me to click alt-crtl-delete to restart08:32
hobgoblinaluex: also can you open a terminal from the apps > accessories - run this command    df -h   then paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com put a name in the name box - hit paste and give us the url08:32
Lilsavalexand when i restart.. it just asks me the same thing over and over again08:32
aluexsome setting menus08:32
hobgoblinLilsavalex: that's cool - we just like the channel to be family friendly08:32
aluexremaining are only "Help" "about Gnome".etc08:33
wooboy77hi guys maybe you can help me!08:33
hobgoblinwe can try08:33
mohi1hobgoblin, missed terminal there =]08:33
ddecatorhobgoblin: was your comment about df -h supposed to be for Lilsavalex?08:33
wooboy77i'd like to connect a second pc on a modem connection how do i do it???08:33
hobgoblinmohi1: no I didn't08:33
hobgoblinddecator: no it was for aluex08:33
mohi1hobgoblin, apps->accessories-> terminal????08:34
* ddecator is confused where this is going, but ok08:34
hobgoblinddecator: often things go missing when / is full08:34
aluexoh08:34
ddecatorhobgoblin: ah! that makes sense08:34
LilsavalexMohil, i updated some information at my thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9341091#post9341091 I used the boot info script and uploaded the results08:34
hobgoblinmohi1: also can you open a terminal from the apps > accessories  - see - /me missed it not :)08:35
aluexddecator, some setting menus are missing08:35
mohi1ah08:35
mohi1hobgoblin, well i didn't read it full :(08:35
ddecatoraluex: so you don't see Preferences or Administration?08:35
aluexAnd still,everytime i log in,lots of file-managers start08:35
mohi1talsemgeest, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9341091#post934109108:36
mohi1and Lilsavalex this was the same post as in #808:36
mohi1Lilsavalex, you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708?08:37
Lilsavalexits not the same08:37
LilsavalexGo to the second page of my thread and look at the new updated one08:37
aluexddecator, yes08:37
LilsavalexYah i saw that08:37
wooboy77'd like to connect a second pc on a modem connection how do i do it???08:37
ddecatoraluex: the file-managers issue is most likely nautilus related. can you pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) the output of 'df -h' like hobgoblin asked?08:38
ddecatorwooboy77: wireless or connected?08:38
ddecatorwooboy77: oh, do you mean share the internet on your ubuntu system with another comp?08:38
aluexhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437713/08:39
aluexddecator, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437713/08:39
hobgoblinaluex: also if you can get the system stable after the file manager thing has stopped you can try Alt+F2 run gnome-session-properties go to the options tab and remember current apps08:40
hobgoblinaluex: well the drive not full :)08:41
ddecatoraluex: and in regards to your system menu, what happens when you run 'alacarte' in a terminal?08:41
mohi1hobgoblin, PM08:41
LilsavalexWell, im off for the night. If you have any tips about my thread post on it or just email me lilsavalex_@Hotmail.com Thanks for all your help guys =]08:42
ddecatorno problem Lilsavalex :)08:42
aluexddecator, here is output:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437716/08:42
mohi1Lilsavalex, look at http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector08:43
mohi1i saw the same boot sector info on yours Lilsavalex08:43
aluexhobgoblin, Alt+F2 here appears a window titled "Run application"08:43
LilsavalexThats test disk thing is what messed me up in the first place aha08:43
hobgoblinaluex: gnome-session-properties is the command to run08:44
hobgoblinthen options - remember current apps running08:44
ddecatorhobgoblin: any ideas on what would cause that output?08:44
SomeDudehello, im a ubuntu newbie. Is there a way to install ubuntu from a CD with Windows Command Prompt Safe Mode?08:44
hobgoblinddecator: 2 secs08:45
hobgoblinSomeDude: do you meant install wubi?08:45
SomeDudei believe so08:45
SomeDudei cant get the the install to occur on the system boot08:45
mohi1Lilsavalex, so what your boot screen shows up?08:45
aluexhobgoblin, oh,i see08:46
mohi1Lilsavalex, it shows ubuntu partition and it tells you to restart. right?08:46
ddecatorSomeDude: so you had wubi install ubuntu on your system then?08:46
hobgoblinddecator: nope - I would try to reinstall it though08:46
SomeDudei created the ubuntuo ISO on a CD08:46
hobgoblinSomeDude: not sure tbh - only did wubi once08:46
SomeDudewhen i boot the computer nothing happens08:46
aluexhobgoblin, i m under UNR,and it works well08:46
aluexbut when i choose session: ubuntu 10.0408:47
LilsavalexThat only happens when i go to the windows boot menu pressing the esc key and selecting the hardrive with linux on it08:47
aluexthe problem appears08:47
ddecatorSomeDude: ah, so you're trying to boot into a live session using the CD?08:47
SomeDudeim trying to install manually from command prompt08:47
LilsavalexThen the ubuntu thing about alt-ctr-delete comes08:47
hobgoblinaluex: ok - so in 10.04 you have file manager try and start numerous times - but not in UNR ?08:48
SomeDudepossibly, what a live session?08:48
ddecatorSomeDude: the best options are to install wubi so you don't have to partition your harddrive, or boot into the live CD and install ubuntu on a partition you've freed on your harddrive08:48
mohi1Lilsavalex, i think this is due to bad sectors as i pointed the line to you08:48
LilsavalexI just tried the bad sectors thing08:48
hobgoblinSomeDude: I would add that it is possible you can;t install it from safe mode in win08:48
SomeDudecan i install wubi from the command prompt. The original windows OS is completely damaged and does allow access to normal functions08:49
hobgoblinSomeDude: I would wonder about installing wubi into a fubar windows08:50
SomeDudecould be08:50
SomeDudefound the laptop on the streets08:50
ddecatorSomeDude: not that i know of, and if windows isn't working then wubi won't work either08:50
hobgoblinwhat do you want to do with the damaged win? fix it or not - if you fix it then you will probably lose wubi anyway08:50
aluexhobgoblin, yes.08:50
ddecatorSomeDude: if you don't need windows on there, you can use the CD to install ubuntu on the HDD and replace windows08:51
LilsavalexWell, Thanks for the help, and email like i said =] Thanks for your help. I appreciate it =) Im going to try and restart pc and see if its fixed.. if not. ill give up for the night and go to sleep aha08:51
LilsavalexGoodnight everyone ! <308:51
hobgoblinaluex: mmmm - ok - did you do the ALt+F2 command thing in 10.04?08:51
SomeDudehow would i install ubuntu on the HDD08:51
aluexnot yet.08:51
aluexi will hava try08:52
hobgoblinSomeDude: boot from the livecd - if it does not start - reboot - enter BIOS and set to boot from CD08:52
ddecatoraw, couldn't type fast enough...08:52
SomeDudehow do you enter bios exactly?08:52
ddecatordepends on the computer08:52
hobgoblinSomeDude: depends - look on screen - could be esc del or a F combo08:53
ddecatorthe screen that flashes for a few seconds when first booting should say what key to enter for settings08:53
hobgoblinor even an option to choose what to boot from08:53
SomeDudewow, thanks all08:56
SomeDudei appreciate the help08:56
ddecatorSomeDude: no problem :)08:56
SomeDudehopefully one day i'll be as knowable as you guys08:56
aluexhobgoblin, i m back08:56
aluexin 10.0408:56
aluexstill lots of "Starting up file-manager"08:57
ddecatorSomeDude: once you start using ubuntu, you'll start to pick up on everything08:57
aluexand so many...that i cannot see their titles now08:57
ddecatori feel like there is a nautilus bug for that...08:57
aluexoh my goodness..08:58
hobgoblinddecator: possibly the one I had a few releases ago08:58
hobgoblinddecator: possibly a killall nautilus will help08:58
ddecatorhobgoblin: oh yay for regressions...i'm looking for a report atm08:58
ddecatorheh, that'd get it to stop at least :p08:59
* hobgoblin hates looking for bugs on lp 08:59
mohi1bye.catch you all later =]08:59
hobgoblinddecator: and then it should restart :p08:59
ddecatorhopefully not, haha08:59
ddecatorhobgoblin: i have to use google site search for it. the lp search is terrible08:59
hobgoblinwell you need nautilus to start to deal with metacity and all that stuff :)08:59
hobgoblinddecator: indeed - I think the forum uses the same engine lol09:00
ddecatorand icons on the desktop, etc. kinda important09:00
ddecatorhm, no luck finding a report so far...09:01
aluexhttp://imagebin.org/9789109:01
aluexhere is my snapshot09:01
aluexmany points on the top pannel are nautilus09:01
ddecatoryah, i feel like i've seen that before09:01
ddecatorif you click them, what gets displayed?09:02
aluexnothing09:02
ddecatori was hoping for an error message :\09:02
aluexwhat is that?09:03
hobgoblina clue :)09:03
aluexoh.09:03
aluexwhat should i do then?09:03
hobgoblinaluex: try this from a terminal09:03
hobgoblinkillall nautilus09:03
hobgoblinmight need sudo09:04
aluexthey disappeared09:04
hobgoblinok - now do the ALt+F2 gnome-session-properties thing again and logout and in again09:04
hobgoblincheck in the first tab that there is no nautilus09:05
ddecatorheh, was just going to suggest that09:05
hobgoblin:)09:05
aluexyou mean "Start up applications preference"?09:05
hobgoblinyes09:06
aluexthere is a "Personal file sharing" which seemed to be related to nautilus09:06
hobgoblinthat I think is ubuntuone - if you don't use it - turn it off09:07
aluexi use it09:07
aluexThen nothing related to nautilus09:07
hobgoblinleave it then :) I'll just screenshot mine09:07
aluexall right09:07
hobgoblinhttp://i.imgur.com/zv2aC.png09:08
ddecatorhm, no reports for nautilus starting too many times, only nautilus failing to start09:08
hobgoblinaluex: obviously if you use things like bluetooth leave them as they are - once you've checked that tab - go to the options one and remember current apps09:08
hobgoblinddecator: it was a while ago when I had the issue - /me forgot the details :(09:09
ddecatoraluex: just make sure there isn't a nautilus listing under the first tab09:09
aluexThere are not09:09
ddecatorhobgoblin: i've tried multiple different searches, and google includes invalid/fixed/etc.09:09
aluexhobgoblin, things in my first tab are no more than yours09:10
hobgoblinaluex: ok - once you checked the remember apps thing try again09:10
aluex"Your session has been remembered"09:10
aluexsaved09:11
ddecatorhm, should probably run update-manager too just in case...09:12
ddecatorespecially if this doesn't work09:13
hobgoblinyep09:13
ddecatoraluex: any luck?09:13
aluexlucky09:14
aluexthey no longer appear09:14
aluexthe remaining problem is my poor menu.09:14
ddecatortry running 'sudo apt-get reinstall alacarte'09:14
hobgoblinaluex: hang on09:15
aluexOK09:15
hobgoblinmight be worth and update and upgrade first09:16
ddecatorcouldn't hurt09:16
ddecatorsudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade09:17
ddecator(or dist-upgrade if you want it to potentially upgrade even more packages)09:17
hobgoblinleave that one for the moment :)09:17
ddecatoryah, it's technically less stable to do dist-upgrade09:18
hobgoblinaluex: are you following us?09:18
ddecatoraluex: so run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' in a terminal :)09:18
aluexoh,sorry.i was just playing pac-man on google homepage09:19
hobgoblinLOL09:19
ddecatorhaha09:19
ddecatorand no, that music playing is NOT a firefox bug -_-09:19
aluex0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:20
ddecatoralright, now run 'sudo apt-get reinstall alacarte'09:21
aluexE: Invalid operation reinstall09:21
ddecatoroops09:22
ddecatorsudo aptitude reinstall alacarte09:23
ddecator:)09:23
aluexdone09:24
aluexoutput is still the same09:25
ddecatorwhen running alacarte?09:25
hobgoblinsudo apt-get install --reinstall alacarte09:25
ddecatorah, i knew there was a way to do it with apt-get :p09:26
aluexhobgoblin, done09:27
aluexoutput is still that same09:27
ddecatori have a feeling the profile is corrupt09:27
aluexI agree09:27
aluexbut i know nothing about that09:28
ddecatornow if i can remember where the profile is, haha. one sec09:28
wooboy77hello again!09:31
wooboy77how do I connect a second pc on a modem connection?09:31
ddecatorthere is is09:32
ddecatoraluex: is it only your system menu?09:32
aluexyes.09:32
ddecatorwooboy77: are you trying to connect another computer to your ubuntu comp and share the internet connection?09:33
aluexin that only are "Help and support" "About Gnome" About ubuntu09:33
ddecatoraluex: you can try going to ~/.config/menus/ and delete applications.menu which (after a logout and back in) should reset the main menus09:34
ddecatornot sure if the logout and back in is required or not...09:34
aluexthere only "settings.menu"09:35
ddecatorthere isn't an applications.menu at all? o.o09:35
aluexyes.09:36
aluex-rw-r--r--  1 aluex aluex    0 2010-05-09 09:56 settings.menu09:36
aluexno,there isn't09:37
aluexi just made a language mistake.09:37
aluex: P09:37
ddecatorhm, ok09:38
ddecatorsudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-menu2 libgnome-menu2 python-gmenu09:39
hobgoblinI'm off now - good luck aluex09:39
aluexE: Couldn't find package gnome-menu209:39
ddecatoroops, sorry09:40
ddecatorsudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-menus libgnome-menu2 python-gmenu09:40
aluexddecator, never mind. :)09:40
ddecator?09:40
aluexdone09:42
ddecatoralright, log out and log back in just in case :)09:42
aluexok09:42
aluexback09:44
aluexnot fixed09:44
ddecatorhmm...and still no applications.menu in ~/.config/menus/ ?09:45
aluexlet me see..09:45
aluexstill not09:45
ddecator:\09:45
ddecatorstrange...09:45
aluex..09:46
aluexhow to see hidden files with ls09:46
ddecatoronly .config is hidden. you can run 'cd .config/menus' then 'ls'09:47
aluexhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437741/09:48
aluexoutput of ls09:48
ddecatorsomethings not right...09:50
aluex:(09:50
aluexsettings.menu is empty09:50
ddecatorbut you said your applications menu is normal?09:52
aluexddecator, yes, application menu is normal09:53
ddecatorodd...09:53
aluexextraordinary,09:53
aluexthat's the word i just learnt today09:53
ddecatorok, check to see if there are files in /etc/xdg/menus/09:53
ddecatorhaha, yes, extraordinarily odd09:54
aluexmany09:54
ddecatorand settings.menu isn't blank?09:54
aluexno,it's not empty09:55
ddecatorwell that's good at least...09:55
aluex:)09:55
ddecatornow the problem is, why aren't the files from that folder being merged into corresponding files in the other folder09:55
aluexand there is application.men09:56
aluexmenu09:56
aluexapplications.menu09:56
ddecatorhm, i'm not sure what package is responsible for this, so, if you want, we can try a way around the issue09:56
aluex?09:58
ddecatorit's not a fix, but i can give you the text in my settings.menu in ~/.config/menus and you can place it in your empty settings.menu and save it, and that will hopefully get it working09:58
aluexi agree09:59
ddecatorit might not work since whatever package is supposed to do that automatically isn't working properly and that may be needed for this to work, but it's worth a try if you're interested10:00
ddecatoraluex: ok, paste the text from http://paste.ubuntu.com/437751/ into ~/.config/menus/settings.menu (*don't* change anything in the xdg menu folder)10:02
ddecatornot sure if you need sudo to save the changes10:04
aluexplaced10:04
ddecatoralright, did it save?10:04
aluexaha.it works10:05
ddecatorthe system menu does?10:05
aluexyes10:05
ddecatorgood! :)10:05
aluex:)10:05
aluexand...how to cure my alacarte10:05
ddecatornot sure what caused that...but at least it's working now10:05
ddecatorright10:06
ddecatorhm...10:07
ddecatorstill the same output if you run it from a terminal?10:07
aluex...it works10:10
aluexall right now10:10
ddecatoralacarte does?10:10
ddecator:D10:10
aluexyes.10:10
aluex:D10:11
ddecatori have _no_ idea what caused that, but at least it's working for you now :)10:11
aluexThank you greatly10:11
ddecatorno problem :)10:12
ddecatorif you have any more issues, then just come back here and let us know10:12
aluexOK,i will if i havd10:13
aluexthen byebye10:13
C-RayHello11:10
C-RayPlease I need help11:10
C-Rayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/437774/11:13
C-Raymy problem is described above11:14
C-RayI don't like posting too many lines for the clarity of the IRC11:14
C-RayThanks :)11:14
drubinpaultag: pong11:28
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Thraulhow do I customise the plymouth boot screen in lucid? All the googling I have done says I can only use the themes in the ubuntu repositories....13:25
C-RayThraul13:27
C-Raytry start-up manager13:28
C-Rayhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager13:28
C-Raygo here Thraul13:28
Thrauli thought the startupmanager package only changed the xsplash/usplash themes (9.10 and earlier).....13:29
C-Raywell, I think it will work with 1013:29
Thraulplymouth replaces xsplash/usplash....????13:29
Thraulok will look13:29
C-RayI never tried it really Thraul, just guessing wisely13:29
C-Rayno you can always return for the default13:30
C-RayI think it will work13:30
C-Raygive it a shout13:30
C-RayI have installed virtualbox 3.2 but now how to run it?13:35
C-Rayanyone here to help?13:35
hobgoblinC-Ray: what's up?13:36
ThraulC-Ray, you need to edit the menu to show it....right click on applications and choose Edit Menus, then select System Tools and tick (or untick and tick) Virtual Box then cick Close...should now appear in the menu13:36
hobgoblinshouldn't need to do that13:37
C-Raywhat do you mean?13:37
hobgoblinC-Ray: what is it you need help with?13:37
C-Raywell after I installed virtualbox 3.2, I don't know how to run it13:38
C-Raythere is no shortcut or anything13:38
C-Rayam not able to find it either in the edit menus13:38
ThraulIs in in Applications -- System Tools?13:38
C-Rayno it is not :(13:38
hobgoblinhave you rebooted - it needs to start some stuff during boot13:39
C-Rayno I haven't tried that13:39
hobgoblinthen it should be there in the menu as well13:39
hobgoblinand if you intend to use usb's I hope you installed the PUEL version not the OSE one13:39
hobgoblinthe one from the vbox site rather than the repos one13:40
C-Rayoh I downloaded the .deb pacakge13:40
C-Rayfrom the site13:40
hobgoblink13:40
zeroseven0183Hi C-Ray, I downloaded the latest Virtualbox this week13:40
C-Rayit worked?13:40
zeroseven0183and it was quite good13:40
C-Raythat's great to hear13:40
hobgoblinThraul: did you see the ubunutgeek page fro plymouth themes?13:40
zeroseven0183Actually, I was using Virtualbox for quite sometime already13:40
C-Rayzerseven0183 : am did you reboot after installation?13:41
zeroseven0183C-Ray: If you can't find Virtualbox in the Applications, see if it's not yet activated in the Main Menu13:41
zeroseven0183No need to reboot13:41
hobgoblinzeroseven0183: erverytime I have installed and tried to run from CLI it fails until it has set up some kernel stuff during boot ( at least I am sure that is what it does )13:42
zeroseven0183But it should be in the list as soon as you finish installing it13:42
zeroseven0183... _list_, as in the Applications menu13:42
C-RayI fixed it :)13:42
C-RayI don't know how13:42
C-Rayno there is a shortcut13:43
C-Raybut I did nothing13:43
C-RayI was trying for days13:43
zeroseven0183Sometimes, it just appears after quite a few moments13:43
C-Raywell it is from yesterday actaully13:43
C-Raystrange13:43
C-Rayanyway13:43
zeroseven0183So good for you now13:43
C-Rayyeah13:43
zeroseven0183What do you plan to virtualize?13:43
C-Raythanks zeroseven018313:43
C-Raywindows xp and fedora 1213:44
Thraulyeah i did hobgoblin  but from what i read that just sets a steady image? it wont have a progress bar as such to show booting process???13:44
C-Raythough fedora is not needed for the moment13:44
zeroseven0183C-Ray: Sure. I also have Windows XP for my "refresher" course13:44
zeroseven0183I'm waiting for Goddard to be released then try it on VBox too13:44
C-Raywhat to do13:45
C-RayI am taking assembly13:45
C-Rayand I have no choice13:45
C-Raymasm13:45
C-Ray32bit13:45
hobgoblinThraul: yea :( I know - that said I rarely notice the progress as I am usually waiting for the kettle to boil13:46
Thrauli'll try it and see what happens i just don't like the default lucid boot screen and want to change it to something a little nicer....lol13:48
Thraulif i change it using the instructions on the ubuntugeek page and it does not work or something goes wrong can i trash it and restore it easily to default settings?13:49
hobgoblinThraul: I have played with some of the other ones in the repo - a little better than the default13:52
hobgoblinyea I have used the update-alternatives a couple of times - once from the recovery menu13:53
hobgoblinhi man0riaX13:53
man0riaXHeya13:55
th5thafternoon all14:33
iktheya14:43
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dragondon@paultag LOL, s'okay, wasn't around any ways :)15:26
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DarkwingDuckanyone seen mohi1?15:32
leoquantDarkwingDuck, no15:33
DarkwingDuckkk15:34
* DarkwingDuck send another memoserv15:34
lukjad86DarkwingDuck he hangs out on ##570915:40
DarkwingDuckthanks lukjad8615:40
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hobgoblinDarkwingDuck: a few hours ago he was here15:47
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kermiacanyone know how to make sense of this: On Dbus if you call "GetApplications" on org.ayatana.indicator.application it will dump them all15:51
kermiacor know how to get a list of all the indicators in lucid? (e.g. indicator-sound, indicator-me, etc, etc)15:53
Francis1duanedesign: good morning! :)16:06
Francis1u there? :)16:06
Francis1hello can someone please help me16:12
Angusdoes anyone have time to answer a strange question about ports and browsers16:13
Angus?16:13
phillwAngus: I can try16:15
Angusthanks16:16
phillwask away :-)16:16
Anguswhen i scan my computer or try to telnet it (or some other similar program) it won't connect16:16
Angusbecause it's behind a router16:16
Angusso how come i can do things like browse the internet16:16
Anguswhere servers are sending me information?16:17
Francis1guys, is it possible to get rid of the upgraded system and go back to my old one16:18
phillwAngus: overly simplified, but you can think of it as when you browse, you are making 'outbound' connections, the firewall on your router will allow this activity, however when you try to make an 'inbound' connection the router will block it. Also your computer is set to block 'inbound' connections16:19
phillwFrancis1: is your /home on a seperate partition?16:19
Francis1what do you mean16:19
robocoplol16:19
Francis1sorry im not good at linux lol16:19
Angusthen how does the router know the info coming from the server was asked for by an out bound connection16:20
robocopok obviously it isnt16:20
robocopor you would of known16:20
Francis1I only use this to play games, but now that java isn't working even if it's isntalled, i couldn't play games no more16:20
hobgoblinFrancis1: there are not stupid questionss just stupid answers and attitudes16:20
robocopFrancis1, what's wrong with java?16:20
robocopi mean16:20
robocopwith your java install16:20
Francis1robocop: hmm it's not working16:21
robocopFrancis1, what do you mean?16:21
robocopwhat are you trying to do16:21
Francis1ok so uhm this is what's happening16:22
phillwFrancis1: let's try a different method, what is wrong with your current installation that makes you want to go back to an older one?16:22
Francis1yesterday? I upgraded the new version of ubuntu (ubuntu 10.04 LST) i think?16:22
robocopmhm..16:22
robocopdid you enable the canonical archive?16:23
Francis1and then when i tried to play the game that im playing, it says that my jave is not installed and all that crap16:23
phillwFrancis1: and what is the problem with it?16:23
robocopokay16:23
robocopstfu phillw16:23
robocopFrancis1,16:23
phillwFrancis1: you just need to put on java16:23
robocopin 10.04 ubuntu removed sun-java6*16:23
Francis1Im confused? idk who do i answer16:23
robocopFrancis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources16:23
Francis1ok so who do i listen to >.<16:23
robocopFrancis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources16:23
robocopFrancis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources16:23
Francis1ok hold on16:24
robocopokay then click on the "other software" tab16:24
Francis1done16:24
robocopokay the click the two check boxes next to http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner16:24
robocopsee it?16:24
robocopcheck them16:25
Francis1there are 2 boxes16:25
Francis1that has "http"16:25
robocopright,16:25
robocopcheck them16:25
Francis1ok hold on16:25
robocop(:16:25
Francis1ok done16:25
robocoppress close, and then reload when it prompts you16:25
Francis1ok hold on16:26
Francis1i hope that this will work16:26
Francis1damn16:26
robocopjust stfu and do it.16:26
Francis1i did lol16:27
robocopokay, did it finish reloading?16:27
Francis1yes16:27
robocopk, now open up synaptic package manager16:27
Francis1done16:27
robocopthen search "sun-java6-plugin"16:28
Francis1the color of the box is green16:28
robocopinstall that. it will include the JRE too with the Mozilla plugin. (browser java applets etc)16:28
Angusphillw: thanks but how does the router know the the connection from the server was started by me as an outgoing connection16:28
Francis1robocop: the color of the box is green16:28
Francis1can't install it... as i've told you, java is installed already but not working16:29
robocop<Francis1> and then when i tried to play the game that im playing, it says that my jave is not installed and all that crap16:29
Francis1^16:29
robocopoh. try running 'java --version'16:29
robocopi'm sure you know how to open a terminal, right?16:30
Francis1ya so open that on terminal?16:30
robocoplol no hold up16:30
Francis1ok16:30
robocopoh it's 'java -version'16:30
phillwAngus: the system keeps track of packets by their address information. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security#firewall  has a little on firewalls, if you'd like some more information on Firewalls head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51081216:31
Francis1ok hold on16:31
robocopAngus, what are you trying to do?16:31
Francis1robocop: this message popped out = java version "1.6.0_20"16:32
Francis1Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)16:32
Francis1Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)16:32
phillwrobocop: learn about firewalls :-)16:32
robocophmm. Francis1 and what is this game you're trying to play?16:32
Francis1www.runescape.com16:32
Francis1lol16:32
robocopuh open firefox16:32
robocopand go to16:32
robocop'about:plugins'16:32
Francis1ok hold on16:33
* robocop wonders if he has icedtea + sun-java6-plugin installed.16:33
Francis1yes i installed that icedtea!16:33
Francis1yesterday!16:33
Francis1downloaded*16:33
robocophah that fucked it16:33
robocopremove that shit16:33
Francis1fuck16:34
robocopreally16:34
Francis1fucking icedtea16:34
Francis1not gonna drink that sht16:34
Francis1jk16:34
Francis1ok so what we gonna do16:34
robocopk go back to synaptic16:34
Francis1done16:34
robocopfind 'openjdk-6-jre'16:34
robocopand remove it16:34
robocopit will remove icedtea with it16:35
Francis1lots of files showed up16:35
Francis1like 8-9 of em16:35
robocopfind the one named openjdk-6-jre16:35
robocopshould be green box16:35
Francis1mark for reinstallation or removal?16:35
robocopremoval16:35
Francis1complete removal or just removal16:36
robocopremoval is fine16:36
Francis1then apply16:36
robocopmhm16:36
robocopdid it prompt you to mark additonal changes with the icedtea pkg?16:36
Francis1idk i just removed this mofo16:37
robocophah.16:37
Francis1ok done lol16:37
robocopk now exit firefox16:37
robocopwait like16:37
robocop20 sec16:37
robocopand start it back up16:37
Francis1ok16:37
robocopthen go back to about:plugins16:37
Francis1oke lol16:37
robocopand tell me if you see something about Java plugin.16:38
Francis1if I only knew that upgrading will messed this  up, i shouldn't have upgraded16:38
Francis1ok hold on16:38
Francis1im gonna open it now16:38
robocopyeah i don't upgrade16:38
robocopclean installs16:38
robocop* paultag has quit (*.net *.split)16:39
robocophe's fucking retarded.16:39
Francis1ok im here16:39
Francis1ok what do I do now ;[16:39
kermiachey robocop, we appreciate you helping in here but pls keep the language "family friendly"16:39
robocopFrancis1, do you see anything about icedtea?16:40
Francis1nope16:40
robocopok cool.16:40
robocopthen do you see anything about java?16:40
Francis1i dont think so16:41
robocopwth..16:42
robocopokay just try and go to runescape Francis116:42
Francis1ok16:42
Francis1there are 2 options16:43
Francis11.It seems like Java is not installed on your computerJava is a  free download that is required to play RuneScape. Click  here to install Java.16:43
Francis12.If you believe you already have Java installed then you might get this  message if it is disabled. Click here for instructions on enabling Java.16:43
Francis1i mean those messages pops up16:43
robocopoh shit16:44
robocophold on i know16:44
Francis1ok16:44
phillwrobocop: I *think* the OP may still have OpenJDK installed. It will need removing else it will fight with the sun-java.16:45
robocopi told him to rm the whole openjdk JRE16:45
Francis1you told me to uninstall 1 jdk sht there16:46
Francis1but there are lots of jdk there16:46
Francis1what do I do *confused*16:48
robocopOH SHIT16:48
robocopthere we go16:48
robocopopen synaptic16:48
robocopand search16:48
geirhaNah, different java versions will happily co-exist. You can switch which one is the default with update-java-alternatives16:48
robocopicedtea16:48
nhandlerrobocop: Please try and restrain yourself from saying all of those swears in here. They are not appreciated.16:48
robocopLOL OH MY GOD NHANDLER HI16:48
robocopokay (:16:48
robocopFrancis1, yeah search 'icedtea' and then remove both packages.16:49
Francis1all of these fileS?16:49
Francis1I searced "Icedtea" and like 9 files showed up16:49
* robocop *sigh*16:50
robocopopen up a command line16:50
robocopand do16:50
Francis1ill paste what files showed up16:50
robocop'sudo apt-get purge icedtea6*'16:50
Francis1hold on16:50
robocopno fk that16:50
geirhasudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin && sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun && pkill firefox16:50
Francis1command line?16:50
robocopterminal16:50
robocopgeirha,16:50
Francis1terminal you mean16:50
robocopyeah same thing16:50
robocopgeirha, that doesnt help for the browser plugin.16:51
geirharobocop: Yes it does.16:51
Francis1ok done16:52
Francis1robocop: nxt?16:52
robocoprefresh 'about:plugins' in firefox16:52
robocopdo you see16:52
robocopJava(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_2016:52
robocop?16:52
Francis1ok16:53
Francis1there's a box here like a browser16:53
Francis1there are16:53
Francis1Mozilla default Plug-in16:53
Francis1and QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.416:53
robocopclose it16:54
robocopopen 'about:plugins'16:54
robocop<robocop> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_2016:54
robocopdo u see that16:54
Francis1can't se that on the box here16:55
Francis1want me to take a screenshot?16:55
robocopyeah16:55
Francis1ok hold on16:55
Francis11 min16:56
Francis1robocop: [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2crlq9w.png[/IMG]16:57
robocopwtf lol Francis1 scroll the page down16:58
robocopand look for Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_2016:58
Francis1I didn't know man my bad16:58
robocopoh shit16:58
robocopFrancis1,16:58
robocopwtf are you doing16:58
geirhaYou have a winxp theme?16:58
robocopgeirha, lol look at the address bar16:59
robocopgo to16:59
robocopexactly16:59
Francis1*sigh* you told me to go to this thing16:59
Francis1yes i did?16:59
robocop'about:plugins'16:59
Francis1this is what showing up16:59
Francis1I type: about plugins16:59
Francis1and this is what's showing up16:59
robocoplol no16:59
robocopabout:plugins16:59
robocophave to have the colon16:59
Francis1oo need that licky face?16:59
geirhaOh, it's win32 firefox16:59
robocopgeirha, lol yeah.16:59
geirhaNo wonder it's not working :)16:59
Francis1oh shoot17:00
Francis1ok im here now :P17:00
robocopnooo geirha he was redirected to firefox's site with a example of about:plugins17:00
robocopJava(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_2017:00
robocopdo u see it?17:00
Francis1wait imn searching17:00
geirharobocop: Aah, haha now I see it :)17:00
Francis1nope no jave Title17:01
Francis1java*17:01
Francis1there are: Itunes appli detector, VLC multimedia plugin, Windows media plugin and whatnot17:01
Francis1but not Java17:01
robocopuh huh..17:02
robocopokay open a terminal17:02
robocopand do17:02
robocoplocate libjavaplugin17:02
robocopand paste the output17:02
Francis1ok lol17:02
Francis1locate libjavaplugin <~~ paste this?17:02
Francis1can you put "locate libjavaplugin" nxt time pls lol17:03
robocoplol17:03
robocoppaste the output17:03
Francis1done17:03
robocoppaste...?17:03
Francis1abby@acerlaptop:~$ locate libjavaplugin17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/iceape/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp_gcc29.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
Francis1/usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libjavaplugin.so17:03
pedro3005!paste | Francis117:04
VotebotFrancis1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com17:04
Francis1ugh i dont know if that's what you meant.. my 1st language isn't english17:04
Francis1!paste17:04
robocoplol.17:04
Francis1:o darn im looking stupid in here >.< sorry guys17:04
pedro3005it's okay17:05
geirhaFrancis1: Try restarting the browser, but do NOT use the X in the title bar, choose   File -> Close, then start firefox again17:05
Francis1ok hold on17:05
robocopgeirha, do you know what closing that way does vs "x"17:06
geirhaOr is it File -> Quit ? Mine is translated to my language17:06
geirharobocop: X closes that firefox window, but if there are any other firefox windows open, firefox will still be running17:06
robocopooooh right17:07
robocop917:07
robocop(:17:07
robocop*17:07
geirhaOften a "Downloads" window will still be around, minimized so you don't notice it17:07
Francis1ok so what's nxt lol17:07
robocopFrancis1, open 'about:plugins' again17:07
Francis1oke17:07
robocopthis time literally type17:08
Francis1no java17:08
robocopoh17:08
Francis1ya17:08
robocopuh.. try 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins'17:09
Francis1terminal?17:09
robocopmhm17:09
Francis1done17:09
robocoplol paste it please17:10
Francis1!paste flashplugin-alternative.so             libtotem-gmp-plugin.so17:10
Francis1libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-mully-plugin.so17:10
Francis1librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so17:10
Francis1libtotem-cone-plugin.so17:10
robocoplol :/17:10
paultagFrancis1, please use a pastebin next time17:10
Francis1ugh idk how to pase it good lol17:10
paultag!pastebin17:10
VotebotFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com17:10
Francis1how tho17:10
paultag!pastebin | Francis117:10
VotebotFrancis1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com17:10
Francis1!pastebin flashplugin-alternative.so             libtotem-gmp-plugin.so17:10
Francis1libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-mully-plugin.so17:10
Francis1librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so17:10
Francis1libtotem-cone-plugin.so17:10
Francis1ugh w/e17:10
paultagFrancis1, no, if you keep doing that, we will have to ask you to leave17:10
paultagFrancis1, it's kinda a big deal :(17:11
Francis1ill just pm it to your robocop if im gona paste17:11
Francis1I'll just send it to robocop17:11
robocoplol Francis117:11
geirhaFrancis1: You go to that page, paste it there, click send, then you get a URL which you can paste here17:11
Francis1better?17:11
robocoplol17:11
Francis1oh ok17:11
paultagFrancis1, then no one else can help. Try using pastebin, it's really easy17:11
paultagheyya geirha17:11
Francis1much better17:11
geirhapaultag: Hi :)17:12
Francis1!pastebin17:12
Francis1!paste17:12
geirhaFrancis1: http://paste.ubuntu.com17:12
Francis1i feel like burning my computer17:12
Francis1ya im here17:12
Francis1i pasted it17:12
robocoplol17:12
paultaggeirha, thank you again, I had an issue a few weeks back with my desktop and the post that fixed it was an old one that you made off Ubuntu Forums. Thanks! :)17:12
robocopFrancis1, you'll have to tell us the URL of the paste17:12
paultaggeirha, when I saw your name I chuckled and figured I'd tell you :)17:12
geirhaHaha, cool :)17:13
Francis1oo here17:13
robocopoh, hi paultag.17:13
Francis1robocop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/437899/17:13
Francis1did I do it right/17:13
robocopgood job (:17:13
geirhaFrancis1: Perfec!17:13
geirhat17:13
Francis1thanks lol17:13
paultagFrancis1, much better, thank you :)17:13
* paultag goes away again17:13
Francis1sorry xd17:13
Francis1ok nxt step pls *if you thinkg of something*17:14
Francis1aw he left the room ;[17:17
Francis1what do I do now >.<17:17
phillwhi Francis117:17
Francis1hello17:17
geirhaHis connection died17:17
Francis1okay17:18
geirhaFrancis1: Everything looks right, so it's odd it isn't working.17:18
Francis1my system got messed up since I upgraded yesterday...17:18
ChesamoFrancis1, geirha: What seems to be the problem?17:18
Francis1about my java17:19
phillwFrancis1: you have the wrong flash plugin17:19
geirhaFrancis1: Try the following, in a terminal:  sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun17:19
Francis1oo17:19
Francis1ok hold on17:19
geirhaThen exit firefox like before, and start it again17:19
phillwThe ultimate problem was the  java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so plugin no longer works  with Firefox.  The new plugin is java/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so, which  isn't very intuitively named or located, but there you go.17:20
Francis1yay17:20
Francis1it's now working17:21
Francis1omg ily lol17:21
Francis1geirha: <33317:21
geirhaFrancis1: Great :)17:21
Francis1hahaha17:21
Francis1thank you so much!17:21
Francis1and i have another problem too lol17:21
phillwgeirha: you reading the same thread as me ;-)17:21
Francis1about my sounds this time.17:21
geirhaphillw: No, I've seen this problem waaay to many times. update-java-alternatives is the way to go.17:22
geirhaLot's of people tell you to uninstall icedtea, but that really doesn't help anything.17:23
Francis1geirha: you're my hero ;)17:23
Francis1bye guys17:23
Francis1thanks a lot!17:23
Francis1have a wonderful day17:23
Francis1;)17:23
phillwyeah, I'll have to try that on mine, I'm having flash problems with chromium and it appears to be the same solution :-)17:23
Francis1and btw17:23
Francis1is jave and flash the same>?17:24
ChesamoFrancis1: Noooo17:24
Francis1like if I deleted flash, java will get deleted as well?17:24
geirhaIf only Sun can get those proprietary libraries replaced with proper open source ones, these problems will go away17:24
phillwicedtea is getting better, as is open-jdk. but they're not quite 'there' yet17:24
geirhaFrancis1: No, java and flash are two completely different technologies17:25
Francis1coz im having problems w/ my sounds.. like sometimes it wont work lol...17:25
geirhaAll these problems are just because there are some proprietary libraries in java, mainly swing or parts of it anyway, and the owners of those don't want to open source it17:26
ChesamoFrancis1: What situations cause the sound to not work?17:26
Francis1hmm17:26
geirhaAs soon as there's a proper open source version of those are made, we can kiss sun-java6-plugin goodbye17:26
Francis1when Im playing runescape17:26
Francis1sound in youtube wont work17:26
Francis1and sometimes will stop at 1 second or 3 seconds17:26
ChesamoFrancis1: Ohhhhhh Runescape.... fond memories17:26
Francis1ha!17:26
Francis1I'm 138 2223 :p17:26
ChesamoFrancis1: It's because the Flash and Java plugins conflict for the sound resources. Not really something you can fix.17:27
ChesamoFrancis1: I have no idea what "2223" means17:27
Francis1really...17:27
Francis1that sucks lol17:27
Francis12223 total level17:27
Francis1:D17:27
pedro3005rofl runescape17:27
Francis1hahahaha17:27
ChesamoFrancis1: I played back before "Slayer" was a skill, so my stats are much less impressive17:27
Francis1i hate slayer man. taking 10 yrs to level up17:27
pedro3005I gave up at like level 2017:28
ChesamoFrancis1: The first person to complete the Ancient Spells quest though!17:28
Francis1niceeeeeeeeee17:28
ChesamoFrancis1: That was like.... seven years ago though17:28
Francis1:P17:28
Francis1oo long time ago hehe17:28
geirhaFrancis1: I've noticed that sound stops working after a while, when a flash applet has been running for a while. Closing firefox and starting it again makes it work again ... for a while ... until flash ruins it for you again :)17:28
Francis1geirha: ya! that's what's happening gawd17:29
Francis1how to fix that lol17:29
Francis1Chesamo: do you still know your account17:29
geirhaFrancis1: Well, you can install the flashblock plugin so it doesn't load flash automatically. That'll at least "slow it down"17:29
Francis1why can't i switch to resizable details17:30
Francis1it say's that my system doesnt support it..17:30
Francis1geirha: ok help me pls! :P17:30
ChesamoFrancis1: pffff.... chesamo, maybe? giabbai? I don't remember, really17:30
Francis1geirha: Im not using flash anyways lol17:30
Francis1Chesamo: what about try to go to the log in page17:30
Chesamo...pfth what17:30
ChesamoI can't go /away for some reason?17:30
Francis1and try to change your settings17:31
ChesamoWell, company's here so I gotta go17:31
Francis1oh ok17:31
Francis1peace17:31
Francis1geirha: can you please help me XD17:31
geirhaFrancis1: Which Ubuntu release are you running?17:31
Francis1what do you mean17:31
geirhaUbuntu 9.10? Ubuntu 10.04?17:31
Francis1ubuntu 10.04 lst17:32
geirhaOk, then go to Applications -> Ubuntu software center17:32
geirhaSearch for flashblock17:32
geirhainstall it, then restart firefox17:33
Francis1ok hold on17:33
Francis1what to install17:35
Francis1lol17:35
Francis1geirha: XD17:35
Francis1geirha: Flasblock extension for firefox, ya?17:37
geirhaFrancis1: Yes17:37
Francis1click then get software17:37
Francis1oo wont work lols17:37
Francis1hold on17:37
geirhaIf you still have synaptic open, you need to close it. Only one package installer can work at a time17:38
Francis1ya17:38
Francis1ok there's no "install this file" here17:38
geirhaNo install button? Hm. Odd.17:39
Francis1geirha: would you like to see a screenshot17:39
Francis1yes17:39
Francis1only "More info" is the option17:39
geirhaA screenshot could help yeah.   Alt+Printscreen to only screenshot the active window btw17:40
Francis1yes17:40
Francis1geirha: sorry about that17:42
Francis1ok here's your screenshot17:42
Francis1geirha: [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2laphf8.png[/IMG]17:43
geirhaYeah, I checked in a VM meanwhile. The package apparently changed name since 9.1017:44
geirhaSo you want the second one in that list17:44
geirhaxul-ext-flashblock17:44
Francis1ok hold on17:45
Francis1ok then install?17:47
geirhaYes, then restart firefox when it's installed.17:47
Francis1alrighty17:47
Francis1taking 10 years to install so hold on lol17:48
Francis1well i installed it and asked me for password17:48
Francis1then i entered and it disappeared17:49
Francis1so you think it's done installing17:49
geirhaClick the more information button for that package17:50
geirhaIt should say there whether it's still installing or done installing17:51
Francis10ya it's installed17:51
geirhaGood, then restart firefox and try going to a youtube movie or some other flashsite17:52
Francis1ok17:52
Francis1how'd i got this problem tho..17:52
Angusi have another question about ports and ips17:55
Angusis there an easy way to find out the ip on the local network of my ubuntu laptop and my dads xp desktop17:55
Angusthanks in advance17:55
Francis2back lol17:55
Francis2geirha: how come that I'm always getting disconnected and wont let me reconnect then im gonna have to suspend17:56
Francis2then internet will work again...17:56
geirhaFrancis2: Hm, dunno, the driver for your network card is possibly not working correctly18:03
Francis2this been happening since yesterday18:03
geirhaAngus: You can try pinging the broadcast adress   ping -b 192.168.1.25518:03
Francis2since i upgraded...18:03
Francis2terminal?18:03
geirhaThen it sounds like the new kernel introduced a bug for you18:04
Angusi tried that18:05
Angusit just started ping registering lost packets18:05
Angusto a different ip to the one on the command line18:05
Francis2ya damn i hate gettign disconnected18:06
Francis2is this going to be like this forever?...18:06
geirhaHm. Well, some routers allow you to set IP based on hardware adress, then all machines would have the same ip every time18:06
geirhaFrancis2: Not if you let them know about it, e.g. by filing a bug at launchpad.net18:07
Francis2how tho lol18:07
Anguswould there be a way to find out18:07
Anguseven if it changed regularly18:08
stlsaintanyone here good with networking?18:08
geirhaFrancis2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs18:09
phillwAngus: try smbtree18:09
Anguswhats that?18:10
geirhaAngus: The router's web interface may have a page with a list of connected computers18:10
geirhaAlso, ##networking may have some ideas18:10
Francis2ok hold on im going to the site18:10
Francis2geirha: do i have to create an account? xd18:11
Angusok18:12
Angusthanks a lot18:12
Angusthough i'm surprised there isn't a terminal command to work it out18:12
geirhaFrancis2: At launchpad, yes.18:12
Francis2damn i feel like not doing this lol18:13
Francis2geirha: I'm gonna do this when this gets worse i guess18:14
Francis2ok im off to eat breakfst :P thanks geirha18:14
Francis2geirha: peace. have a wonderful day :P18:16
b52-1Hi all. Got a macbook pro I'm trying to install ubuntu on in a dual boot situation. Been following the instructions set out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation. Problem I've run into is the step for the dual-boot installation where it says to, "On the last dialog of the installer, be sure to click the ???Advanced??? button and choose to install the boot18:29
b52-1loader (grub) to /dev/sda3". Problem is, SDA3 doesn't exist, not really sure where to install grub (normally use ubuntu on PCs and don't have to worry about it). It seems that the guide expects the installer to creation the root/swap partitions in the previous step. Figured I could use gparted to created a new partition in the free space but not sure what to make it. Tried making a ext4 partition18:29
b52-1 to fill the remaining space but that was unsuccessful.18:29
geirhaWhich partition is / ?18:32
geirhaOr asked in another way, which partitions were created for ubuntu?18:32
b52-1nothing18:33
b52-1the installer did nothing when I told it to use up the remaining free space18:33
b52-1hang on just getting the installer back up to the partition choosing stage18:34
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b52-1there's dev/sda1 that's 208MB, and /dev/sda2 which is the OSX partition18:36
b52-1then a remaining 294.2GB of free space. Step 4 in the dual-booting install guide says to use the "largest continuous free space" option. Takes a second or two and then moves onto the next part of the install (username etc)18:38
geirhaOdd, that should've created partitions on the free space18:39
b52-1seem to remember it doing so in the 9.04 installer18:44
b52-1tried that a few months ago18:44
b52-1possible I did something else then, but at this point there's not really much room to stuff up ;)18:46
b52-1guess the only other thing I could do is try dig up the 9.04 CD and see if that installs (trying to install 10.0418:48
b52-1actually looks as though it doesn't install there as later in the installer it says "The following partitions are going to be formatted:18:57
b52-1 partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext418:57
b52-1 partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap"18:57
b52-1in the ready for install section of the installer18:58
b52-1hello hello.. The following partitions are going to be formatted:18:59
b52-1 partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext418:59
b52-1err18:59
b52-1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146824018:59
b52-1that rather18:59
b52-1seems to be a similar problem19:00
b52-1hmm19:00
SomeDudehello, anyone there?19:21
nhandlerHello SomeDude19:21
SomeDudehey, i have a question19:21
nhandlerWhat is your question SomeDude ?19:22
SomeDudeim having trouble with my ubuntu and my wireless network19:22
SomeDudeis there a way to check to see if ubuntu is recongizing my wireless card?19:22
nhandlerSomeDude: Define recognizing please. Do you mean seeing that it is in your computer or that it will work with Ubuntu? You also might be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported19:24
SomeDudethanks19:28
SomeDudei've been trying to get my ubuntu laptop to find my wireless network but to no avail19:28
SomeDudei thought maybe ubuntu wasnt recognizing the wireless card19:28
SomeDudebut i just did the lspci - v | less19:29
SomeDudeand it seems to recognize it19:29
SomeDudestill not sure why it cant find my network19:29
AmicoseHi - I just attempted to install ubuntu 10.04 via parallels 3.0 on osx 10.5.8. Install appears to run fine but when it gets to the GUI it gets stuck in a loop trying to refresh or reboot itself, and occasionally plays a short bongo pattern.  How do I escape this loop?19:34
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