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st8ofmi9dmrand: I got a prebuffering pause when is started to flicker. Would that be due to teh CPU slowing down due to heat?00:09
tgm4883st8ofmi9d, is your backend/frontend the same machine?00:15
tgm4883I think that is usually the frontend can't get data quick enough00:15
st8ofmi9dtgm4883: No, I have a dedicated backend and it's gigabit ethernet00:21
tgm4883st8ofmi9d, odd00:22
JT|worktgm4883: if the system is overheating I'd check the cpu info00:33
JT|worksee if it's underclocking itself00:33
JT|workcat /proc/cpuinfo when it's running choppy00:33
JT|workit'll tell you the chip's speed00:33
tgm4883JT|work, I assume you are talking to st8ofmi9d00:36
tgm4883but yea, I concur00:36
st8ofmi9dJT|work: and tgm4883: Thanks! I'll investigate. It happened to my Zino last night and I have the table-top top off and a fan blowing mid-speed directly on it.00:41
JT|workoh yeah, lol00:43
JT|workboth you guys have 8s in your nick I guess00:43
qwebirc76513I have digital cable, what should I look for in a capture card?02:06
st8ofmi9dqwebirc76513: As a newbie I'd say cable card support...but I don't know poop.02:07
st8ofmi9dqwebirc76513: What signal are you trying to bring in? ATSC..should be good. WAM...all depends upon what your provider is sending out.02:09
st8ofmi9dClear QAM is disappearing. it's the biggest fear that i have02:10
qwebirc76513Do most capture cards have coax? I think Cox is probably ATSC...02:10
st8ofmi9dATSC is over the air (OTA)02:11
st8ofmi9dCable companies are QAM...most are now or moving to encrypted QAM02:11
st8ofmi9dIn my limited understanding....the only way to get cable that is not clear QAM is using a tuner card that has cable card support02:12
st8ofmi9dI beleive that silicon dust is planning one soon.02:12
qwebirc76513I see02:13
st8ofmi9dqwebirc76513: Go to http://www.silicondust.com then click on resource/tv channels and it will show you what is currently available in your area through clear QAM (or ATSC if you do antenna)02:14
Zinn[www.silicondust.com] Silicondust02:14
st8ofmi9dAre you in the Us (I assumed that)02:14
qwebirc76513Yes02:14
st8ofmi9dqwebirc76513: As i said earlier, I'm a newbie..I've been trolling these IRCs for a while and getting info from the great people that help out. Please don't consider what I say as a final word but more so my experience. Clear QAm is likely to dissapear all together soon and I don't like it...not one bit.02:19
st8ofmi9dAre you close enough to a city where you can get OTA signal?  Go to http://www.antennasdirect.com/ and use their tool to see what channels you can bring in for fre is you get a antenna.02:19
Zinn[www.antennasdirect.com] Antennas Direct | Your TV and HDTV Antenna Source02:19
st8ofmi9dI used to be within reach of OTA signals. It was GREAT> Free HD content. Sure, there was no cable content...but free HD content from local providers was a reall plus02:19
st8ofmi9dIf you are too far way and only need local channels, ask about their antenna service. My understanding is that they are required to offer it (at around $14/month) and that mean local cable (including HD) for taht price.02:22
st8ofmi9dqwebirc76513: I'm just opposed to paying $100+ for cable content when I barely watch TV. Call me cheap, but $85+ a onth ad up to real money in the long run02:22
mcl0vinguys any luck with the Hauppage WinTV-HVR-1600 remote and ubuntu 9.1002:28
mcl0vinhmmm this is the 3rd time my mythtv box freez02:49
mcl0vinthe HDD LED stay steady and i am forced to power it down then back up02:49
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dkamHey guys - in upgrading from mythbuntu 9.10/mythtv 0.22 - to mythbuntu 10.04, do I first need to upgrade mythtv, or is that included in the 10.04 upgrade?13:36
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squish102dkam i went from 9.04 to 10.04 and mythtv seemed to upgrade13:48
squish102i went to 0.23-fixes13:49
dkamThanks13:55
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mcl0vingood morning , anyone here16:04
mcl0vinthere is over 52 users , but barely anyone answer here !16:05
tgm4883mcl0vin, that is how IRC genereally works17:55
mrandmcl0vin: That's why mailing lists and forums are better for support.18:19
recsaHi22:26
recsastill stuck on same problem, cant make browser's sound to go through the HDMI output, livetv and recorded videos are ok, but browser sound (youtube and such) doesnt, any idea what should i check?22:27
kilmarnockmythbackend fails to start22:48
kilmarnock"Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME"22:48
kilmarnockwhat can I do?22:48
kilmarnock!help22:48
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].22:48
kilmarnockI tried to do "export HOME=/root" in the init script, but it does not react to it22:57
tgm4883kilmarnock, why would HOME=/root?23:05
kilmarnockbecause it says: Using configuration directory = /.mythtv23:08
kilmarnockbtw HOME=/root/.mythtv  is not recognized either23:09
tgm4883 / does not equal /root23:09
recsakilmar, when it says /.mythtv it means /home/user/.mythtv23:10
tgm4883recsa, well it should be looking for it at /home/user/.mythtv, not /.mythtv23:11
kilmarnockif I export /home/mythtv, the answer is still23:11
kilmarnock2010-05-23 00:09:56.483 Using runtime prefix = /usr23:11
kilmarnock2010-05-23 00:09:56.484 Using configuration directory = /.mythtv23:11
kilmarnock2010-05-23 00:09:56.484 Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME23:11
tgm4883I think the issue is that it is actually looking for $VARIABLE/.mythtv, and for some reason $VARIABLE is blank23:11
tgm4883i've seen this issue in the forums, but haven't had a chance to look it up yet23:11
tgm4883kilmarnock, is this a fresh install or an upgrade?23:11
kilmarnockrecsa, the output from command line as root is: Using config dir = /root/.mythtv23:12
kilmarnockthis happend after an upgrade23:12
tgm4883kilmarnock, what is your username?23:12
kilmarnockhomer23:12
kilmarnockroot23:12
recsadid you install as root?23:12
kilmarnockroot because the init script gets executed as root23:12
tgm4883then try setting HOME as /home/homer23:12
recsaomg omg, think i have fixed my HDMI prob, brb rebooting23:13
kilmarnockit does not react to the export HOME=whatever. At least not in the log. tried /home/mythtv, /root. tried setting user in /etc/default/mythtv-backend23:14
tgm4883kilmarnock, i'm assuming that if you do 'env' it does show what you set HOME as?23:15
kilmarnockroot in the root shell, /home/homer in the user shell23:15
tgm4883how are you trying to start the backend?23:19
kilmarnockif I start the backend from a root shell via "mythbackend", it works23:20
kilmarnockWhat does not work is the /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend script23:20
kilmarnocksu mythtv -c "mythbackend" also does the job23:21
kilmarnockI do not understand the init.d script at all23:22
tgm4883kilmarnock, this is on 10.04?23:22
kilmarnockyes, since two hours. the problem arrived in karmic23:22
tgm4883hmm, ok23:23
tgm4883I don't think it will help, but could you try 'sudo service mythbackend start'23:23
kilmarnockdoes not help23:24
tgm4883You say this started on karmic?23:24
kilmarnockyes, after an upgrade23:24
tgm4883hmm23:24
tgm4883what version of mythtv-backend are you running?23:25
kilmarnock0.23.0+fixes24710-0ubuntu223:25
tgm4883alright, let me see if I can break mine then23:26
kilmarnockDONT! YOU LOOSE YOUR TV!23:26
tgm4883kilmarnock, or I could revert my package?23:27
tgm4883but since I plan on reinstalling anyway today, it shouldn't be that much of an issue23:27
kilmarnockhm. you want to go to 10.4 now?23:27
tgm4883yea, I was planning on doing that, and installing a solid state drive as well23:28
kilmarnocktook me hours@124kbps23:28
tgm4883well A) I have a faster connection than that, and B) I am doing a fresh install of 10.0423:29
kilmarnockI assume it will work on a fresh install23:30
tgm4883well i'm upgrading my 9.10 machine to that mythbackend version23:30
tgm4883so we will se23:30
tgm4883see23:30
kilmarnockall right, thats how it happend to me.23:31
kilmarnocksay good bye to your good old TV then23:31
tgm4883kilmarnock, you don't need to be so dramatic23:32
kilmarnockI do not understand why the backend does not get passed the HOME23:32
squish102does anyone use mythbuntu with hdmi and 5.1 audio?23:32
squish102my question is how difficult is it to set up?23:32
tgm4883squish102, I think recsa was just in here talking about that23:33
tgm4883he is supposedly rebooting right now23:33
tgm4883kilmarnock, is this a mythbuntu install, or a Ubuntu+mythtv install?23:33
kilmarnockubuntu+mythtv23:33
tgm4883hmm, ok23:34
squish102tgm4883 i'll wait for him to come back23:34
tgm4883kilmarnock, ii  mythtv-backend         0.23.0+fixes24755-0ubu A personal video recorder application (server)23:34
tgm4883thomas@ares:~$ sudo service mythtv-backend status23:34
tgm4883mythtv-backend start/running, process 2849023:34
kilmarnockthats fast23:35
kilmarnockis it running?23:35
tgm4883it says it is23:35
tgm4883I can access mythweb23:35
kilmarnockthe process ID is no proof23:36
* tgm4883 sighs23:36
kilmarnockwhy do you have another fixes version23:36
tgm4883probably because I just upgraded and have a new package that was just built?23:36
tgm4883I could check why if you really want me to23:36
kilmarnocknono, dont worry about tha23:37
kilmarnockt23:37
tgm4883just checked LiveTV works for me23:38
kilmarnockperhaps you could give me your init script23:38
tgm4883so the backend is running, just like upstart said it was23:38
tgm4883and I'm on that build, on my 9.10 machine23:38
tgm4883so you could try upgrading to the latest and see if that fixes it for you23:38
kilmarnockthere is no newer version in the repo for me?23:39
tgm4883kilmarnock, what is the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu-repos.list'23:39
tgm4883use pastebin for htat23:40
tgm4883!pastebin23:40
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.23:40
squish102how can i tell if my recording has a 5.1 audio stream?23:40
kilmarnock!pastebin23:41
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.23:41
kilmarnockit does not exits23:41
kilmarnockI use  deb http://www.avenard.org/files/ubuntu-repos lucid release23:42
Zinn[www.avenard.org] Avenard's Ubuntu package repository23:42
tgm4883kilmarnock, well then I can't help you if you aren't even using mythtv packages from the mythbuntu developers23:42
tgm4883jya isn't around either23:42
tgm4883my thoughts on it are either A) it's a problem with your setup, or B) it's a problem with jya's packages23:43
tgm4883IDK though23:43
kilmarnockIDK? Something like LMAA?23:44
tgm4883i don't know23:45
kilmarnockah, thank you23:45
kilmarnockwhere are the mythbuntu repos?23:46
tgm4883!auto%23:46
ZinnAuto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.23:46
kilmarnockjya is Mr. avenard ?23:46
tgm4883kilmarnock, but I don't think it's trivial to revert back to these packages23:46
tgm4883kilmarnock, yea23:46
kilmarnockhm23:47
kilmarnocktell him he destroyed my TV when he comes23:47
tgm4883kilmarnock, again, I don't know if it's his packages, or something with your setup23:48
kilmarnockno, its my fault23:49
kilmarnocknow it does it. Hack: I execute now "mythbackend --user mythtv &" instead of the startup script woodoo.23:59
kilmarnockBut thank you for your help anyway23:59

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