[00:09] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: I got a prebuffering pause when is started to flicker. Would that be due to teh CPU slowing down due to heat?
[00:15] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, is your backend/frontend the same machine?
[00:15] <tgm4883> I think that is usually the frontend can't get data quick enough
[00:21] <st8ofmi9d> tgm4883: No, I have a dedicated backend and it's gigabit ethernet
[00:22] <tgm4883> st8ofmi9d, odd
[00:33] <JT|work> tgm4883: if the system is overheating I'd check the cpu info
[00:33] <JT|work> see if it's underclocking itself
[00:33] <JT|work> cat /proc/cpuinfo when it's running choppy
[00:33] <JT|work> it'll tell you the chip's speed
[00:36] <tgm4883> JT|work, I assume you are talking to st8ofmi9d
[00:36] <tgm4883> but yea, I concur
[00:41] <st8ofmi9d> JT|work: and tgm4883: Thanks! I'll investigate. It happened to my Zino last night and I have the table-top top off and a fan blowing mid-speed directly on it.
[00:43] <JT|work> oh yeah, lol
[00:43] <JT|work> both you guys have 8s in your nick I guess
[02:06] <qwebirc76513> I have digital cable, what should I look for in a capture card?
[02:07] <st8ofmi9d> qwebirc76513: As a newbie I'd say cable card support...but I don't know poop.
[02:09] <st8ofmi9d> qwebirc76513: What signal are you trying to bring in? ATSC..should be good. WAM...all depends upon what your provider is sending out.
[02:10] <st8ofmi9d> Clear QAM is disappearing. it's the biggest fear that i have
[02:10] <qwebirc76513> Do most capture cards have coax? I think Cox is probably ATSC...
[02:11] <st8ofmi9d> ATSC is over the air (OTA)
[02:11] <st8ofmi9d> Cable companies are QAM...most are now or moving to encrypted QAM
[02:12] <st8ofmi9d> In my limited understanding....the only way to get cable that is not clear QAM is using a tuner card that has cable card support
[02:12] <st8ofmi9d> I beleive that silicon dust is planning one soon.
[02:13] <qwebirc76513> I see
[02:14] <st8ofmi9d> qwebirc76513: Go to http://www.silicondust.com then click on resource/tv channels and it will show you what is currently available in your area through clear QAM (or ATSC if you do antenna)
[02:14] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] Silicondust
[02:14] <st8ofmi9d> Are you in the Us (I assumed that)
[02:14] <qwebirc76513> Yes
[02:19] <st8ofmi9d> qwebirc76513: As i said earlier, I'm a newbie..I've been trolling these IRCs for a while and getting info from the great people that help out. Please don't consider what I say as a final word but more so my experience. Clear QAm is likely to dissapear all together soon and I don't like it...not one bit.
[02:19] <st8ofmi9d> Are you close enough to a city where you can get OTA signal?  Go to http://www.antennasdirect.com/ and use their tool to see what channels you can bring in for fre is you get a antenna.
[02:19] <Zinn> [www.antennasdirect.com] Antennas Direct | Your TV and HDTV Antenna Source
[02:19] <st8ofmi9d> I used to be within reach of OTA signals. It was GREAT> Free HD content. Sure, there was no cable content...but free HD content from local providers was a reall plus
[02:22] <st8ofmi9d> If you are too far way and only need local channels, ask about their antenna service. My understanding is that they are required to offer it (at around $14/month) and that mean local cable (including HD) for taht price.
[02:22] <st8ofmi9d> qwebirc76513: I'm just opposed to paying $100+ for cable content when I barely watch TV. Call me cheap, but $85+ a onth ad up to real money in the long run
[02:28] <mcl0vin> guys any luck with the Hauppage WinTV-HVR-1600 remote and ubuntu 9.10
[02:49] <mcl0vin> hmmm this is the 3rd time my mythtv box freez
[02:49] <mcl0vin> the HDD LED stay steady and i am forced to power it down then back up
[13:36] <dkam> Hey guys - in upgrading from mythbuntu 9.10/mythtv 0.22 - to mythbuntu 10.04, do I first need to upgrade mythtv, or is that included in the 10.04 upgrade?
[13:48] <squish102> dkam i went from 9.04 to 10.04 and mythtv seemed to upgrade
[13:49] <squish102> i went to 0.23-fixes
[13:55] <dkam> Thanks
[16:04] <mcl0vin> good morning , anyone here
[16:05] <mcl0vin> there is over 52 users , but barely anyone answer here !
[17:55] <tgm4883> mcl0vin, that is how IRC genereally works
[18:19] <mrand> mcl0vin: That's why mailing lists and forums are better for support.
[22:26] <recsa> Hi
[22:27] <recsa> still stuck on same problem, cant make browser's sound to go through the HDMI output, livetv and recorded videos are ok, but browser sound (youtube and such) doesnt, any idea what should i check?
[22:48] <kilmarnock> mythbackend fails to start
[22:48] <kilmarnock> "Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME"
[22:48] <kilmarnock> what can I do?
[22:48] <kilmarnock> !help
[22:48] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[22:57] <kilmarnock> I tried to do "export HOME=/root" in the init script, but it does not react to it
[23:05] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, why would HOME=/root?
[23:08] <kilmarnock> because it says: Using configuration directory = /.mythtv
[23:09] <kilmarnock> btw HOME=/root/.mythtv  is not recognized either
[23:09] <tgm4883>  / does not equal /root
[23:10] <recsa> kilmar, when it says /.mythtv it means /home/user/.mythtv
[23:11] <tgm4883> recsa, well it should be looking for it at /home/user/.mythtv, not /.mythtv
[23:11] <kilmarnock> if I export /home/mythtv, the answer is still
[23:11] <kilmarnock> 2010-05-23 00:09:56.483 Using runtime prefix = /usr
[23:11] <kilmarnock> 2010-05-23 00:09:56.484 Using configuration directory = /.mythtv
[23:11] <kilmarnock> 2010-05-23 00:09:56.484 Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME
[23:11] <tgm4883> I think the issue is that it is actually looking for $VARIABLE/.mythtv, and for some reason $VARIABLE is blank
[23:11] <tgm4883> i've seen this issue in the forums, but haven't had a chance to look it up yet
[23:11] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[23:12] <kilmarnock> recsa, the output from command line as root is: Using config dir = /root/.mythtv
[23:12] <kilmarnock> this happend after an upgrade
[23:12] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, what is your username?
[23:12] <kilmarnock> homer
[23:12] <kilmarnock> root
[23:12] <recsa> did you install as root?
[23:12] <kilmarnock> root because the init script gets executed as root
[23:12] <tgm4883> then try setting HOME as /home/homer
[23:13] <recsa> omg omg, think i have fixed my HDMI prob, brb rebooting
[23:14] <kilmarnock> it does not react to the export HOME=whatever. At least not in the log. tried /home/mythtv, /root. tried setting user in /etc/default/mythtv-backend
[23:15] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, i'm assuming that if you do 'env' it does show what you set HOME as?
[23:15] <kilmarnock> root in the root shell, /home/homer in the user shell
[23:19] <tgm4883> how are you trying to start the backend?
[23:20] <kilmarnock> if I start the backend from a root shell via "mythbackend", it works
[23:20] <kilmarnock> What does not work is the /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend script
[23:21] <kilmarnock> su mythtv -c "mythbackend" also does the job
[23:22] <kilmarnock> I do not understand the init.d script at all
[23:22] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, this is on 10.04?
[23:22] <kilmarnock> yes, since two hours. the problem arrived in karmic
[23:23] <tgm4883> hmm, ok
[23:23] <tgm4883> I don't think it will help, but could you try 'sudo service mythbackend start'
[23:24] <kilmarnock> does not help
[23:24] <tgm4883> You say this started on karmic?
[23:24] <kilmarnock> yes, after an upgrade
[23:24] <tgm4883> hmm
[23:25] <tgm4883> what version of mythtv-backend are you running?
[23:25] <kilmarnock> 0.23.0+fixes24710-0ubuntu2
[23:26] <tgm4883> alright, let me see if I can break mine then
[23:26] <kilmarnock> DONT! YOU LOOSE YOUR TV!
[23:27] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, or I could revert my package?
[23:27] <tgm4883> but since I plan on reinstalling anyway today, it shouldn't be that much of an issue
[23:27] <kilmarnock> hm. you want to go to 10.4 now?
[23:28] <tgm4883> yea, I was planning on doing that, and installing a solid state drive as well
[23:28] <kilmarnock> took me hours@124kbps
[23:29] <tgm4883> well A) I have a faster connection than that, and B) I am doing a fresh install of 10.04
[23:30] <kilmarnock> I assume it will work on a fresh install
[23:30] <tgm4883> well i'm upgrading my 9.10 machine to that mythbackend version
[23:30] <tgm4883> so we will se
[23:30] <tgm4883> see
[23:31] <kilmarnock> all right, thats how it happend to me.
[23:31] <kilmarnock> say good bye to your good old TV then
[23:32] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, you don't need to be so dramatic
[23:32] <kilmarnock> I do not understand why the backend does not get passed the HOME
[23:32] <squish102> does anyone use mythbuntu with hdmi and 5.1 audio?
[23:32] <squish102> my question is how difficult is it to set up?
[23:33] <tgm4883> squish102, I think recsa was just in here talking about that
[23:33] <tgm4883> he is supposedly rebooting right now
[23:33] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, is this a mythbuntu install, or a Ubuntu+mythtv install?
[23:33] <kilmarnock> ubuntu+mythtv
[23:34] <tgm4883> hmm, ok
[23:34] <squish102> tgm4883 i'll wait for him to come back
[23:34] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, ii  mythtv-backend         0.23.0+fixes24755-0ubu A personal video recorder application (server)
[23:34] <tgm4883> thomas@ares:~$ sudo service mythtv-backend status
[23:34] <tgm4883> mythtv-backend start/running, process 28490
[23:35] <kilmarnock> thats fast
[23:35] <kilmarnock> is it running?
[23:35] <tgm4883> it says it is
[23:35] <tgm4883> I can access mythweb
[23:36] <kilmarnock> the process ID is no proof
[23:36]  * tgm4883 sighs
[23:36] <kilmarnock> why do you have another fixes version
[23:36] <tgm4883> probably because I just upgraded and have a new package that was just built?
[23:36] <tgm4883> I could check why if you really want me to
[23:37] <kilmarnock> nono, dont worry about tha
[23:37] <kilmarnock> t
[23:38] <tgm4883> just checked LiveTV works for me
[23:38] <kilmarnock> perhaps you could give me your init script
[23:38] <tgm4883> so the backend is running, just like upstart said it was
[23:38] <tgm4883> and I'm on that build, on my 9.10 machine
[23:38] <tgm4883> so you could try upgrading to the latest and see if that fixes it for you
[23:39] <kilmarnock> there is no newer version in the repo for me?
[23:39] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, what is the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu-repos.list'
[23:40] <tgm4883> use pastebin for htat
[23:40] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[23:40] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[23:40] <squish102> how can i tell if my recording has a 5.1 audio stream?
[23:41] <kilmarnock> !pastebin
[23:41] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[23:41] <kilmarnock> it does not exits
[23:42] <kilmarnock> I use  deb http://www.avenard.org/files/ubuntu-repos lucid release
[23:42] <Zinn> [www.avenard.org] Avenard's Ubuntu package repository
[23:42] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, well then I can't help you if you aren't even using mythtv packages from the mythbuntu developers
[23:42] <tgm4883> jya isn't around either
[23:43] <tgm4883> my thoughts on it are either A) it's a problem with your setup, or B) it's a problem with jya's packages
[23:43] <tgm4883> IDK though
[23:44] <kilmarnock> IDK? Something like LMAA?
[23:45] <tgm4883> i don't know
[23:45] <kilmarnock> ah, thank you
[23:46] <kilmarnock> where are the mythbuntu repos?
[23:46] <tgm4883> !auto%
[23:46] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[23:46] <kilmarnock> jya is Mr. avenard ?
[23:46] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, but I don't think it's trivial to revert back to these packages
[23:46] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, yea
[23:47] <kilmarnock> hm
[23:47] <kilmarnock> tell him he destroyed my TV when he comes
[23:48] <tgm4883> kilmarnock, again, I don't know if it's his packages, or something with your setup
[23:49] <kilmarnock> no, its my fault
[23:59] <kilmarnock> now it does it. Hack: I execute now "mythbackend --user mythtv &" instead of the startup script woodoo.
[23:59] <kilmarnock> But thank you for your help anyway