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Viking667Don't worry. Fixed in another way. "apt-get install adobe-flashplugin" cured it00:01
Viking667... after a false detour down swfdec-mozilla. THAT didn't work at all well.00:01
Viking667All I got were either "Missing plugin" on webpages, or black squares where content was supposed to be.00:02
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likemindeadShh.03:08
* likemindead is tearing up some Phantasy Star IV in Gens/GS r7. :D04:27
homebrewciderI'm running xubuntu 10.04, I have windows xp on the system as well, in a dual boot situation, is there any way I can run windows at the same time in a (i think it's called) virtual environment?05:10
moetunes!vbox05:13
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox05:13
moetuneshomebrewcider: ^^05:13
homebrewciderI'll look into it05:14
homebrewcidercheers05:14
homebrewcidercan I run an existing windows installation though? or do I have to "install windows again?05:18
moetunesyou to do a new install unfortunately afaik05:18
moetunesthere is #vbox for help tho05:18
likemindeadAlso VMWare, right?05:27
moetunesyes there is vmware as well05:32
ruienhomebrewcider: i tried to ghost my current install and put it inside of a VM, but couldn't get it to work. You'll probably need a fresh install.05:58
homebrewcidercheers06:06
homebrewciderinstalling other OS now06:22
moetunesluck :]06:22
homebrewciderdon't wanna say too much yet, don't wanna jinx it, I've never done this before06:24
moetunesfirst time things are always scary ;]06:25
joshua__can you have desktop effects like compiz on xubuntu?06:34
moetunesjoshua__: sure you can if the h/ware is capable06:34
joshua__ok, because xubuntu won't be complete for me without compiz :D06:34
moetunesthere's youtube clips of xubuntu with compiz06:34
moetunesxubuntu has it's own compositor too - it doesn't do the cube tho06:35
visitor1horay no crash of desktop for at least 1 1/2 days10:21
moetunes:]10:22
visitor1its working fine :)10:29
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Sysimy cd:s and usb sticks are working ♥11:48
Sysiheil hal11:51
moetunesheh11:56
schlaftierHi there. I'm dualbooting on a Mac and put an entry in my fstab for the Mac disk partition (/media/mac). How can I make it show up on the Desktop and in Thunar's sidebar so that I can mount and unmount it from there?12:38
tychoi have a shortcut that dont work, in what folder can i change the folder run command12:44
ochosischlaftier, i'm afraid you'd have to use thunar 1.1.0 to achieve that12:49
ochositycho, what exactly do you mean? keyboard shortcut?12:50
schlaftierochosi: I see. So no matter how hard I try to tweak the fstab entry, it will not happen in 1.0.1?12:50
ochosischlaftier, not *this* way. if you add the entry to fstab /media/mac can be automounted and you can add a shortcut by dragging and dropping /media/mac to thunars shortcut-sidebar, but you can't let that partition show up in the same way external media etc show up (including the un/mount context menu) in thunar 1.0.112:52
schlaftierochosi: That's okay for a while... It's just that I don't need /media/mac very often and keep it unmounted most of the time. But it's one line in the terminal, so no big deal :)12:53
schlaftierThanks anyway!12:53
ochosinp12:53
ochosischlaftier, if you want to try thunar 1.1.0 you can easily do that from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa12:54
schlaftierochosi: does it have a lot of dependencies?12:54
ochosischlaftier, (but be warned, first-startup time of thunar is considerably slower due to gvfs, after that it's snappy again)12:55
ochosischlaftier, not really12:55
schlaftierochosi: I'll look into that, thank you12:55
ochosischlaftier, you can easily downgrade again via synaptic if you like12:55
ochosischlaftier, np, yw12:55
schlaftierochosi: I wanted to try the ppa anyway due to the bug in the detailed view12:55
ochosinot sure that is fixed in the ppa version12:56
ochosinever tried tbh12:56
ochosialways have been using icon view12:56
ochosihow would i trigger that bug again?12:56
visitor1by using detailed view?12:57
schlaftierochosi: switch to detailed list view (Ctrl-2 or from the view menu), open any directory. Now the directory list should freeze, i.e. not allow any more clicks12:57
visitor1it just hangs if you use detailed view12:57
schlaftierswitch back to icon view, it should be working again12:57
ochosiok, don't experience that bug with thunar 1.1.012:58
schlaftierperfect :) I'm upgrading now12:58
schlaftierochosi: It works, thanks a lot!13:04
ochosischlaftier, good to hear :)13:05
ochosischlaftier, if you wanna go crazy with xfce4.7, you can also add this ppa ;) https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa13:06
ochosischlaftier, but take a careful look at the packages that didn't build13:06
ochosiyou can see that here: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa/+packages13:06
schlaftierochosi: how unstable is it really?13:06
ochosii've been using it for a while now, no problems13:06
ochosiapart from the packages that didn't build, they don't work for now13:06
tychooschosi : menu shortcut13:07
schlaftierochosi: Good. Because, considering that I'm dualbooting OS X and Xubuntu, you should notice that I like it when "everything just works" ;-)13:07
ochositycho, errm, be a bit more specific, what menu, what shortcut, what's the exact problem?13:07
schlaftier(Not that I mind manual tweaking and the occasional bug a lot, though)13:07
ochosischlaftier, :)13:07
tychoi have a shortcut in a category on my menu list that dont wokr when i press it13:08
tychownat to check if the shortcut path is ok13:08
ochosiwhat shortcut? menu == applications menu?13:09
tychoyes13:09
ochosidid you add the shortcut manually?13:09
tychoyes13:09
tychoforgot the path13:09
tychowhere they are13:09
ochosi/usr/share/applications13:09
tychohmm theres supposed to be another folder13:11
tychoyeah13:15
ochosi?13:15
tychothere is another meny applications flder somewhere13:17
tychoand it is there that shortcut is13:17
tychoneed to remove it and put a new one there13:17
tycho*put a new one in /usr/share/applications13:18
tychoanother guy here told me the path but i cant remeber it13:18
ochosiwell there's also the user specific folder in ~/.local/share/applications13:19
tychoyes thats the one13:20
tychoochosi how do i move a shortcut from those two13:23
tychoand delete13:23
ochosifrom the one in your home folder you can do that as a normal user, for /usr/share/.. you have to be superuser13:23
tychohow do i become a superuser13:24
tycho!superuser13:25
ochosi!sudo13:25
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo13:25
tychoif i write sudo in the terminal does it affect the graphical interface13:25
ochositycho, if you really can't deal with the terminal you can also do "gksu thunar"13:26
ochosibut be careful not to delete any system folders then13:26
tychothx13:28
tychoyup13:28
tychodo you know how to refresh the xfce menu13:28
tychoxcfe4-menu refresh something13:28
tychowoho now it works thx ochosi13:30
ochositycho, np, yw13:34
kelvin1üdvözlet13:56
Sysi!hu13:58
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál13:58
ferranduhi to all15:14
ferranduhi to all15:14
Sysi!hi15:16
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!15:16
xubuntu919hi15:27
xubuntu919anyone?15:28
Sysi!ask15:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:28
xubuntu919I'm trying dpkg  during istallation xubuntu 10.4 but I obtain error15:30
xubuntu919E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (115:31
xubuntu919please, any idea to end installation, thanks.15:32
Sysiinstallation gives that error?15:32
xubuntu919during first Installation from cd15:33
Sysiwubi?15:33
hexmareello all15:33
xubuntu919It is an image downloaded from main site15:34
Sysixubuntu919: did you check the disc for errors?15:34
xubuntu919no, I can check...15:35
Annualshello15:35
AnnualsI am new to Linux15:35
Sysiare you doing dualboot or to empty disc?15:35
hexmarehave  abit of a stupid question here, I have created swap space on a flash drive, and I would like to mount this drive as extra swap and have this be the primary, I have looked around google and all that I have found thus far refer to perm solutions, whereas with me this drive will only be mounted while I am sitting at the computer15:35
Sysi!hi | Annuals15:35
ubottuAnnuals: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!15:35
Sysihexmare: why would you like to use usb stick as overall swap?15:36
AnnualsQUESTION:  Whenever I turn on my computer, the same few programs keep opening up.  Pidgin, Remote Desktop, and Firefox.  How can I make it so NO programs ever auto open on a normal bootup?15:36
Annualsnone of them are checked in application autostart15:37
SysiAnnuals: save session where you don't have progras opened15:37
Sysitap in logout dialog15:37
hexmareSysi > Flash has a faster seek time15:39
Annualsso I should have save session always checked or unchecked?15:39
Annualsor just check it once, close everything, shut down, and then leave it unchecked?15:40
Annuals?15:41
Sysiboth work15:41
Annualsok15:41
Sysiit should open last saved session15:41
Sysihexmare: usb-sticks are slow, and swap is slow even on hdd15:41
Annualsoh15:41
ucaledekhi, I'm running into a snag with the file manager and can't pinpoint if it's a bug or my dumbness :)16:20
ucaledekanyone feel like lending a hand? I'm new to the xfce16:22
Sysidetailed wiew and you can't open folders?16:23
ucaledekI can get one level down, once, can't open filesd and if i go back up i get nothing openable16:24
Sysiyeah, known bug16:24
ucaledekok, it's the detailed view?16:24
ucaledekcool, thanks a ton16:26
likemindeadI think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.16:27
likemindeadStrange bug, though.16:27
Sysiyeah, it actually works with that :D16:30
Sysivery interesting16:31
likemindeadI still <3 Thunar and Xfce sooo much. :-)16:32
Sysionly thing i miss is volumes control like nautilus16:34
Sysii *can* mount things in cli but i prefer clicking16:34
Sysithat one click thing btw is better than in dolphin16:37
likemindeadhttp://www.passwordmeter.com/16:39
likemindeadDerr... wrong window.16:39
visitor1you are right likemindead17:11
likemindeadEh?17:12
visitor1I think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.17:12
visitor1only i am not used to it lol17:12
mac7hi I installed xubuntu, multiboot system, but now windows cannot be booted, can someone help?17:20
likemindeadDoes a Windows option show up in GRUB, mac7?17:22
mac7likemindead: no, but the windowspartitions are available17:23
mac7and intact17:23
mac7I guess I mounted the / incorrectly17:23
likemindeadYeah, just use the Windows CD or the Ubuntu Cd to rebuild your boot manager.17:25
mac7oh shit17:26
likemindeadEh?17:29
man2uHi, I installed xubuntu on my multiboot system, windows runs and can be selected in the bootmanager at startup. How can I add xubuntu in a bootmanager? I am now running the live xubuntu cd18:29
Sysiwhat kinda lines do you have there already?18:30
Sysiwin or ubuntu bootloader?18:30
man2uxp & win718:30
man2uwindows bootloader18:30
man2ureinstalling xubuntu looks like not possible18:31
Sysi!grub218:33
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub218:33
man2u... takes quite a lot of time and energy to get xubuntu running on a multiboot system :-(18:33
man2uHow can I start grub2???18:35
Sysithat multiboot sounds interesting, have you tried to google?18:36
Sysi#ubuntu should also know18:36
Sysiwith dualboot you should install grub2, idk if multiboot is different18:38
schlaftierSince switching to the xubuntu-dev PPA, exo-open seems to be broken. Can anyone confirm before I file a bug? Calling exo-open for no matter what file results in a "choose app" dialog. However, Thunar opens files correctly.18:38
man2uok, grub installed in the terminal, what should i key in?18:40
Sysiyou should get menu when booting18:42
man2uhuh? I run livecd now...18:42
man2uso I should reboot???18:43
man2u....quite annoying system!18:43
man2unobody knows the answer ok...than no more linux again18:45
charlie-tcaschlaftier: You are calling 'exo-open URL'?18:47
schlaftiercharlie-tca: quick example: exo-open /etc/fstab -- then a window appears saying "Open With: Open fstab and other files of type "plain text document" with:"18:49
schlaftierIt will not remember the choice. However, Thunar opens it correctly without asking. This happens since using the xubuntu-dev PPA18:50
man2uOK, but I run livecd now18:51
man2uthis is what it says18:51
man2uaufs / aufs rw 0 018:51
man2utmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 018:51
man2u/dev/sda11 swap swap defaults 0 018:51
man2u/dev/sda8 swap swap defaults 0 018:51
charlie-tcaschlaftier: Looking at man exo-open, that should be correct18:51
man2ucan someone take over my system online?18:52
charlie-tcaIt says it used 'xfce-preferred-applications' to open the files, in the case of /etc/fstab, none apply18:52
charlie-tcaPerhaps it was broken and is now working correctly?18:53
man2uso I should reboot andlook?18:53
schlaftiercharlie-tca: on my other Xubuntu box, "exo-open /etc/fstab" opens it in gedit without asking; just what Thunar would do when double-clicking18:54
schlaftiercharlie-tca: I noticed this since apparently Chromium calls exo-open for downloaded files (or xdg-open which in turn calls exo-open)18:55
charlie-tcahmm, it opened fstab in gedit here18:56
charlie-tcaand this is the computer I tested the ppa fix on18:56
schlaftierthat's strange18:56
charlie-tcayeah, of course, gedit is my editor thunar open it in too18:57
schlaftiercharlie-tca: That's exactly my point. Thunar opens /etc/fstab in gedit, but exo-open doesn't18:57
charlie-tcait does here18:58
charlie-tca2010-05-22  11:5618:58
charlie-tca charlie@wecan:  ~  $ exo-open /etc/fstab18:58
charlie-tcaopened fstab in gedit18:58
schlaftierI will go back to the official repositories to see if it worked there18:58
charlie-tcaokay18:59
tychoin the other language versions then english19:07
tychoare folders like music and documents19:08
tychonamed music and documents in the system, or are they called what they appear?19:08
tychoif you understand what i am saying19:09
schlaftiercharlie-tca: positive -- with the official repositories, exo-open calls gedit; with the PPA, it shows the "open with" window19:09
tychoor is all folders name called the same in the "core", and its just the graphical interface that names them music ?19:25
tychohaving a little trouble putting a path because music in swedish is musik and thats whats is says on the folder......19:25
tychobut i think its correct. eh. sry.19:26
charlie-tcaschlaftier: I don't know what to say. Here I am using the ppa and it works20:01
charlie-tcatycho: yes, they are what they are called. They are default for your use as required by the freedesktop.org standards20:02
charlie-tcatycho: those folders are created by Xubuntu as directed in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults20:06
tychocharlie-tca thanks20:07
charlie-tcatycho: You are welcome20:07
owen1_new 9.10 install. keyboard shortcuts not working. (alt+f2 for example, not opening xfrun4). any ideas?20:33
schlaftiercharlie-tca: I don't know what to say either. I wouldn't even know where the problem originates21:06
charlie-tcaI think file a new bug report, but go back to the original report that we fixed with the exo- patch and reference the new report in a comment. See if we can get someone to confirm it that way?21:08
charlie-tcaOriginal report was https://launchpad.net/bugs/52011821:09
slow-motionhi21:52
schlaftiercharlie-tca: Is the right place for that bug report the xubuntu-dev PPA or the official Ubuntu Launchpad?21:54
charlie-tcawe backported it, launchpad21:55
schlaftiercharlie-tca: thanks21:55
charlie-tcathank you for filing that21:55
schlaftiercharlie-tca: I tried to look into the code by the way but I got utterly confused tracing what actually happens when exo-open is called21:56
charlie-tcaI leave that to mr_pouit21:56
mr_pouitno, it's not in the official archive, please don't file bugs in launchpad22:01
mr_pouitif it's the xubuntu-dev ppa and exo 0.5.2, you should try to file it directly on bugzilla.xfce.org22:02
charlie-tcaIf we backported it, isn't it in the archive for Maverick already?22:06
mr_pouitwe backported nothing22:08
mr_pouitnothing from the xubuntu-dev ppa is in the archive22:08
mr_pouitthat's why I think it's better to file bugs directly on bugzilla.xfce.org for that, rather than lp22:09
charlie-tcaAgreed. If it is not a backport, that would be correct22:10
schlaftieroh, crap... I just filed it on Launchpad22:12
schlaftierWhat now?22:12
schlaftierhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/58434322:12
charlie-tcaThat's fine22:15
slow-motionn823:35
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