[00:01] <Viking667> Don't worry. Fixed in another way. "apt-get install adobe-flashplugin" cured it
[00:01] <Viking667> ... after a false detour down swfdec-mozilla. THAT didn't work at all well.
[00:02] <Viking667> All I got were either "Missing plugin" on webpages, or black squares where content was supposed to be.
[03:08] <likemindead> Shh.
[04:27]  * likemindead is tearing up some Phantasy Star IV in Gens/GS r7. :D
[05:10] <homebrewcider> I'm running xubuntu 10.04, I have windows xp on the system as well, in a dual boot situation, is there any way I can run windows at the same time in a (i think it's called) virtual environment?
[05:13] <moetunes> !vbox
[05:13] <moetunes> homebrewcider: ^^
[05:14] <homebrewcider> I'll look into it
[05:14] <homebrewcider> cheers
[05:18] <homebrewcider> can I run an existing windows installation though? or do I have to "install windows again?
[05:18] <moetunes> you to do a new install unfortunately afaik
[05:18] <moetunes> there is #vbox for help tho
[05:27] <likemindead> Also VMWare, right?
[05:32] <moetunes> yes there is vmware as well
[05:58] <ruien> homebrewcider: i tried to ghost my current install and put it inside of a VM, but couldn't get it to work. You'll probably need a fresh install.
[06:06] <homebrewcider> cheers
[06:22] <homebrewcider> installing other OS now
[06:22] <moetunes> luck :]
[06:24] <homebrewcider> don't wanna say too much yet, don't wanna jinx it, I've never done this before
[06:25] <moetunes> first time things are always scary ;]
[06:34] <joshua__> can you have desktop effects like compiz on xubuntu?
[06:34] <moetunes> joshua__: sure you can if the h/ware is capable
[06:34] <joshua__> ok, because xubuntu won't be complete for me without compiz :D
[06:34] <moetunes> there's youtube clips of xubuntu with compiz
[06:35] <moetunes> xubuntu has it's own compositor too - it doesn't do the cube tho
[10:21] <visitor1> horay no crash of desktop for at least 1 1/2 days
[10:22] <moetunes> :]
[10:29] <visitor1> its working fine :)
[11:48] <Sysi> my cd:s and usb sticks are working ♥
[11:51] <Sysi> heil hal
[11:56] <moetunes> heh
[12:38] <schlaftier> Hi there. I'm dualbooting on a Mac and put an entry in my fstab for the Mac disk partition (/media/mac). How can I make it show up on the Desktop and in Thunar's sidebar so that I can mount and unmount it from there?
[12:44] <tycho> i have a shortcut that dont work, in what folder can i change the folder run command
[12:49] <ochosi> schlaftier, i'm afraid you'd have to use thunar 1.1.0 to achieve that
[12:50] <ochosi> tycho, what exactly do you mean? keyboard shortcut?
[12:50] <schlaftier> ochosi: I see. So no matter how hard I try to tweak the fstab entry, it will not happen in 1.0.1?
[12:52] <ochosi> schlaftier, not *this* way. if you add the entry to fstab /media/mac can be automounted and you can add a shortcut by dragging and dropping /media/mac to thunars shortcut-sidebar, but you can't let that partition show up in the same way external media etc show up (including the un/mount context menu) in thunar 1.0.1
[12:53] <schlaftier> ochosi: That's okay for a while... It's just that I don't need /media/mac very often and keep it unmounted most of the time. But it's one line in the terminal, so no big deal :)
[12:53] <schlaftier> Thanks anyway!
[12:53] <ochosi> np
[12:54] <ochosi> schlaftier, if you want to try thunar 1.1.0 you can easily do that from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa
[12:54] <schlaftier> ochosi: does it have a lot of dependencies?
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, (but be warned, first-startup time of thunar is considerably slower due to gvfs, after that it's snappy again)
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, not really
[12:55] <schlaftier> ochosi: I'll look into that, thank you
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, you can easily downgrade again via synaptic if you like
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, np, yw
[12:55] <schlaftier> ochosi: I wanted to try the ppa anyway due to the bug in the detailed view
[12:56] <ochosi> not sure that is fixed in the ppa version
[12:56] <ochosi> never tried tbh
[12:56] <ochosi> always have been using icon view
[12:56] <ochosi> how would i trigger that bug again?
[12:57] <visitor1> by using detailed view?
[12:57] <schlaftier> ochosi: switch to detailed list view (Ctrl-2 or from the view menu), open any directory. Now the directory list should freeze, i.e. not allow any more clicks
[12:57] <visitor1> it just hangs if you use detailed view
[12:57] <schlaftier> switch back to icon view, it should be working again
[12:58] <ochosi> ok, don't experience that bug with thunar 1.1.0
[12:58] <schlaftier> perfect :) I'm upgrading now
[13:04] <schlaftier> ochosi: It works, thanks a lot!
[13:05] <ochosi> schlaftier, good to hear :)
[13:06] <ochosi> schlaftier, if you wanna go crazy with xfce4.7, you can also add this ppa ;) https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa
[13:06] <ochosi> schlaftier, but take a careful look at the packages that didn't build
[13:06] <ochosi> you can see that here: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa/+packages
[13:06] <schlaftier> ochosi: how unstable is it really?
[13:06] <ochosi> i've been using it for a while now, no problems
[13:06] <ochosi> apart from the packages that didn't build, they don't work for now
[13:07] <tycho> oschosi : menu shortcut
[13:07] <schlaftier> ochosi: Good. Because, considering that I'm dualbooting OS X and Xubuntu, you should notice that I like it when "everything just works" ;-)
[13:07] <ochosi> tycho, errm, be a bit more specific, what menu, what shortcut, what's the exact problem?
[13:07] <schlaftier> (Not that I mind manual tweaking and the occasional bug a lot, though)
[13:07] <ochosi> schlaftier, :)
[13:08] <tycho> i have a shortcut in a category on my menu list that dont wokr when i press it
[13:08] <tycho> wnat to check if the shortcut path is ok
[13:09] <ochosi> what shortcut? menu == applications menu?
[13:09] <tycho> yes
[13:09] <ochosi> did you add the shortcut manually?
[13:09] <tycho> yes
[13:09] <tycho> forgot the path
[13:09] <tycho> where they are
[13:09] <ochosi> /usr/share/applications
[13:11] <tycho> hmm theres supposed to be another folder
[13:15] <tycho> yeah
[13:15] <ochosi> ?
[13:17] <tycho> there is another meny applications flder somewhere
[13:17] <tycho> and it is there that shortcut is
[13:17] <tycho> need to remove it and put a new one there
[13:18] <tycho> *put a new one in /usr/share/applications
[13:18] <tycho> another guy here told me the path but i cant remeber it
[13:19] <ochosi> well there's also the user specific folder in ~/.local/share/applications
[13:20] <tycho> yes thats the one
[13:23] <tycho> ochosi how do i move a shortcut from those two
[13:23] <tycho> and delete
[13:23] <ochosi> from the one in your home folder you can do that as a normal user, for /usr/share/.. you have to be superuser
[13:24] <tycho> how do i become a superuser
[13:25] <tycho> !superuser
[13:25] <ochosi> !sudo
[13:25] <tycho> if i write sudo in the terminal does it affect the graphical interface
[13:26] <ochosi> tycho, if you really can't deal with the terminal you can also do "gksu thunar"
[13:26] <ochosi> but be careful not to delete any system folders then
[13:28] <tycho> thx
[13:28] <tycho> yup
[13:28] <tycho> do you know how to refresh the xfce menu
[13:28] <tycho> xcfe4-menu refresh something
[13:30] <tycho> woho now it works thx ochosi
[13:34] <ochosi> tycho, np, yw
[13:56] <kelvin1> üdvözlet
[13:58] <Sysi> !hu
[15:14] <ferrandu> hi to all
[15:14] <ferrandu> hi to all
[15:16] <Sysi> !hi
[15:27] <xubuntu919> hi
[15:28] <xubuntu919> anyone?
[15:28] <Sysi> !ask
[15:30] <xubuntu919> I'm trying dpkg  during istallation xubuntu 10.4 but I obtain error
[15:31] <xubuntu919> E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[15:32] <xubuntu919> please, any idea to end installation, thanks.
[15:32] <Sysi> installation gives that error?
[15:33] <xubuntu919> during first Installation from cd
[15:33] <Sysi> wubi?
[15:33] <hexmare> ello all
[15:34] <xubuntu919> It is an image downloaded from main site
[15:34] <Sysi> xubuntu919: did you check the disc for errors?
[15:35] <xubuntu919> no, I can check...
[15:35] <Annuals> hello
[15:35] <Annuals> I am new to Linux
[15:35] <Sysi> are you doing dualboot or to empty disc?
[15:35] <hexmare> have  abit of a stupid question here, I have created swap space on a flash drive, and I would like to mount this drive as extra swap and have this be the primary, I have looked around google and all that I have found thus far refer to perm solutions, whereas with me this drive will only be mounted while I am sitting at the computer
[15:35] <Sysi> !hi | Annuals
[15:36] <Sysi> hexmare: why would you like to use usb stick as overall swap?
[15:36] <Annuals> QUESTION:  Whenever I turn on my computer, the same few programs keep opening up.  Pidgin, Remote Desktop, and Firefox.  How can I make it so NO programs ever auto open on a normal bootup?
[15:37] <Annuals> none of them are checked in application autostart
[15:37] <Sysi> Annuals: save session where you don't have progras opened
[15:37] <Sysi> tap in logout dialog
[15:39] <hexmare> Sysi > Flash has a faster seek time
[15:39] <Annuals> so I should have save session always checked or unchecked?
[15:40] <Annuals> or just check it once, close everything, shut down, and then leave it unchecked?
[15:41] <Annuals> ?
[15:41] <Sysi> both work
[15:41] <Annuals> ok
[15:41] <Sysi> it should open last saved session
[15:41] <Sysi> hexmare: usb-sticks are slow, and swap is slow even on hdd
[15:41] <Annuals> oh
[16:20] <ucaledek> hi, I'm running into a snag with the file manager and can't pinpoint if it's a bug or my dumbness :)
[16:22] <ucaledek> anyone feel like lending a hand? I'm new to the xfce
[16:23] <Sysi> detailed wiew and you can't open folders?
[16:24] <ucaledek> I can get one level down, once, can't open filesd and if i go back up i get nothing openable
[16:24] <Sysi> yeah, known bug
[16:24] <ucaledek> ok, it's the detailed view?
[16:26] <ucaledek> cool, thanks a ton
[16:27] <likemindead> I think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.
[16:27] <likemindead> Strange bug, though.
[16:30] <Sysi> yeah, it actually works with that :D
[16:31] <Sysi> very interesting
[16:32] <likemindead> I still <3 Thunar and Xfce sooo much. :-)
[16:34] <Sysi> only thing i miss is volumes control like nautilus
[16:34] <Sysi> i *can* mount things in cli but i prefer clicking
[16:37] <Sysi> that one click thing btw is better than in dolphin
[16:39] <likemindead> http://www.passwordmeter.com/
[16:39] <likemindead> Derr... wrong window.
[17:11] <visitor1> you are right likemindead
[17:12] <likemindead> Eh?
[17:12] <visitor1> I think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.
[17:12] <visitor1> only i am not used to it lol
[17:20] <mac7> hi I installed xubuntu, multiboot system, but now windows cannot be booted, can someone help?
[17:22] <likemindead> Does a Windows option show up in GRUB, mac7?
[17:23] <mac7> likemindead: no, but the windowspartitions are available
[17:23] <mac7> and intact
[17:23] <mac7> I guess I mounted the / incorrectly
[17:25] <likemindead> Yeah, just use the Windows CD or the Ubuntu Cd to rebuild your boot manager.
[17:26] <mac7> oh shit
[17:29] <likemindead> Eh?
[18:29] <man2u> Hi, I installed xubuntu on my multiboot system, windows runs and can be selected in the bootmanager at startup. How can I add xubuntu in a bootmanager? I am now running the live xubuntu cd
[18:30] <Sysi> what kinda lines do you have there already?
[18:30] <Sysi> win or ubuntu bootloader?
[18:30] <man2u> xp & win7
[18:30] <man2u> windows bootloader
[18:31] <man2u> reinstalling xubuntu looks like not possible
[18:33] <Sysi> !grub2
[18:33] <man2u> ... takes quite a lot of time and energy to get xubuntu running on a multiboot system :-(
[18:35] <man2u> How can I start grub2???
[18:36] <Sysi> that multiboot sounds interesting, have you tried to google?
[18:36] <Sysi> #ubuntu should also know
[18:38] <Sysi> with dualboot you should install grub2, idk if multiboot is different
[18:38] <schlaftier> Since switching to the xubuntu-dev PPA, exo-open seems to be broken. Can anyone confirm before I file a bug? Calling exo-open for no matter what file results in a "choose app" dialog. However, Thunar opens files correctly.
[18:40] <man2u> ok, grub installed in the terminal, what should i key in?
[18:42] <Sysi> you should get menu when booting
[18:42] <man2u> huh? I run livecd now...
[18:43] <man2u> so I should reboot???
[18:43] <man2u> ....quite annoying system!
[18:45] <man2u> nobody knows the answer ok...than no more linux again
[18:47] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: You are calling 'exo-open URL'?
[18:49] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: quick example: exo-open /etc/fstab -- then a window appears saying "Open With: Open fstab and other files of type "plain text document" with:"
[18:50] <schlaftier> It will not remember the choice. However, Thunar opens it correctly without asking. This happens since using the xubuntu-dev PPA
[18:51] <man2u> OK, but I run livecd now
[18:51] <man2u> this is what it says
[18:51] <man2u> aufs / aufs rw 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> /dev/sda11 swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> /dev/sda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:51] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: Looking at man exo-open, that should be correct
[18:52] <man2u> can someone take over my system online?
[18:52] <charlie-tca> It says it used 'xfce-preferred-applications' to open the files, in the case of /etc/fstab, none apply
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Perhaps it was broken and is now working correctly?
[18:53] <man2u> so I should reboot andlook?
[18:54] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: on my other Xubuntu box, "exo-open /etc/fstab" opens it in gedit without asking; just what Thunar would do when double-clicking
[18:55] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I noticed this since apparently Chromium calls exo-open for downloaded files (or xdg-open which in turn calls exo-open)
[18:56] <charlie-tca> hmm, it opened fstab in gedit here
[18:56] <charlie-tca> and this is the computer I tested the ppa fix on
[18:56] <schlaftier> that's strange
[18:57] <charlie-tca> yeah, of course, gedit is my editor thunar open it in too
[18:57] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: That's exactly my point. Thunar opens /etc/fstab in gedit, but exo-open doesn't
[18:58] <charlie-tca> it does here
[18:58] <charlie-tca> 2010-05-22  11:56
[18:58] <charlie-tca>  charlie@wecan:  ~  $ exo-open /etc/fstab
[18:58] <charlie-tca> opened fstab in gedit
[18:58] <schlaftier> I will go back to the official repositories to see if it worked there
[18:59] <charlie-tca> okay
[19:07] <tycho> in the other language versions then english
[19:08] <tycho> are folders like music and documents
[19:08] <tycho> named music and documents in the system, or are they called what they appear?
[19:09] <tycho> if you understand what i am saying
[19:09] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: positive -- with the official repositories, exo-open calls gedit; with the PPA, it shows the "open with" window
[19:25] <tycho> or is all folders name called the same in the "core", and its just the graphical interface that names them music ?
[19:25] <tycho> having a little trouble putting a path because music in swedish is musik and thats whats is says on the folder......
[19:26] <tycho> but i think its correct. eh. sry.
[20:01] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: I don't know what to say. Here I am using the ppa and it works
[20:02] <charlie-tca> tycho: yes, they are what they are called. They are default for your use as required by the freedesktop.org standards
[20:06] <charlie-tca> tycho: those folders are created by Xubuntu as directed in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults
[20:07] <tycho> charlie-tca thanks
[20:07] <charlie-tca> tycho: You are welcome
[20:33] <owen1_> new 9.10 install. keyboard shortcuts not working. (alt+f2 for example, not opening xfrun4). any ideas?
[21:06] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I don't know what to say either. I wouldn't even know where the problem originates
[21:08] <charlie-tca> I think file a new bug report, but go back to the original report that we fixed with the exo- patch and reference the new report in a comment. See if we can get someone to confirm it that way?
[21:09] <charlie-tca> Original report was https://launchpad.net/bugs/520118
[21:52] <slow-motion> hi
[21:54] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: Is the right place for that bug report the xubuntu-dev PPA or the official Ubuntu Launchpad?
[21:55] <charlie-tca> we backported it, launchpad
[21:55] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: thanks
[21:55] <charlie-tca> thank you for filing that
[21:56] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I tried to look into the code by the way but I got utterly confused tracing what actually happens when exo-open is called
[21:56] <charlie-tca> I leave that to mr_pouit
[22:01] <mr_pouit> no, it's not in the official archive, please don't file bugs in launchpad
[22:02] <mr_pouit> if it's the xubuntu-dev ppa and exo 0.5.2, you should try to file it directly on bugzilla.xfce.org
[22:06] <charlie-tca> If we backported it, isn't it in the archive for Maverick already?
[22:08] <mr_pouit> we backported nothing
[22:08] <mr_pouit> nothing from the xubuntu-dev ppa is in the archive
[22:09] <mr_pouit> that's why I think it's better to file bugs directly on bugzilla.xfce.org for that, rather than lp
[22:10] <charlie-tca> Agreed. If it is not a backport, that would be correct
[22:12] <schlaftier> oh, crap... I just filed it on Launchpad
[22:12] <schlaftier> What now?
[22:12] <schlaftier> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/584343
[22:15] <charlie-tca> That's fine
[23:35] <slow-motion> n8