[00:01] <Viking667> Don't worry. Fixed in another way. "apt-get install adobe-flashplugin" cured it
[00:01] <Viking667> ... after a false detour down swfdec-mozilla. THAT didn't work at all well.
[00:02] <Viking667> All I got were either "Missing plugin" on webpages, or black squares where content was supposed to be.
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[03:08] <likemindead> Shh.
[04:27]  * likemindead is tearing up some Phantasy Star IV in Gens/GS r7. :D
[05:10] <homebrewcider> I'm running xubuntu 10.04, I have windows xp on the system as well, in a dual boot situation, is there any way I can run windows at the same time in a (i think it's called) virtual environment?
[05:13] <moetunes> !vbox
[05:13] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[05:13] <moetunes> homebrewcider: ^^
[05:14] <homebrewcider> I'll look into it
[05:14] <homebrewcider> cheers
[05:18] <homebrewcider> can I run an existing windows installation though? or do I have to "install windows again?
[05:18] <moetunes> you to do a new install unfortunately afaik
[05:18] <moetunes> there is #vbox for help tho
[05:27] <likemindead> Also VMWare, right?
[05:32] <moetunes> yes there is vmware as well
[05:58] <ruien> homebrewcider: i tried to ghost my current install and put it inside of a VM, but couldn't get it to work. You'll probably need a fresh install.
[06:06] <homebrewcider> cheers
[06:22] <homebrewcider> installing other OS now
[06:22] <moetunes> luck :]
[06:24] <homebrewcider> don't wanna say too much yet, don't wanna jinx it, I've never done this before
[06:25] <moetunes> first time things are always scary ;]
[06:34] <joshua__> can you have desktop effects like compiz on xubuntu?
[06:34] <moetunes> joshua__: sure you can if the h/ware is capable
[06:34] <joshua__> ok, because xubuntu won't be complete for me without compiz :D
[06:34] <moetunes> there's youtube clips of xubuntu with compiz
[06:35] <moetunes> xubuntu has it's own compositor too - it doesn't do the cube tho
[10:21] <visitor1> horay no crash of desktop for at least 1 1/2 days
[10:22] <moetunes> :]
[10:29] <visitor1> its working fine :)
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[11:48] <Sysi> my cd:s and usb sticks are working ♥
[11:51] <Sysi> heil hal
[11:56] <moetunes> heh
[12:38] <schlaftier> Hi there. I'm dualbooting on a Mac and put an entry in my fstab for the Mac disk partition (/media/mac). How can I make it show up on the Desktop and in Thunar's sidebar so that I can mount and unmount it from there?
[12:44] <tycho> i have a shortcut that dont work, in what folder can i change the folder run command
[12:49] <ochosi> schlaftier, i'm afraid you'd have to use thunar 1.1.0 to achieve that
[12:50] <ochosi> tycho, what exactly do you mean? keyboard shortcut?
[12:50] <schlaftier> ochosi: I see. So no matter how hard I try to tweak the fstab entry, it will not happen in 1.0.1?
[12:52] <ochosi> schlaftier, not *this* way. if you add the entry to fstab /media/mac can be automounted and you can add a shortcut by dragging and dropping /media/mac to thunars shortcut-sidebar, but you can't let that partition show up in the same way external media etc show up (including the un/mount context menu) in thunar 1.0.1
[12:53] <schlaftier> ochosi: That's okay for a while... It's just that I don't need /media/mac very often and keep it unmounted most of the time. But it's one line in the terminal, so no big deal :)
[12:53] <schlaftier> Thanks anyway!
[12:53] <ochosi> np
[12:54] <ochosi> schlaftier, if you want to try thunar 1.1.0 you can easily do that from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa
[12:54] <schlaftier> ochosi: does it have a lot of dependencies?
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, (but be warned, first-startup time of thunar is considerably slower due to gvfs, after that it's snappy again)
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, not really
[12:55] <schlaftier> ochosi: I'll look into that, thank you
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, you can easily downgrade again via synaptic if you like
[12:55] <ochosi> schlaftier, np, yw
[12:55] <schlaftier> ochosi: I wanted to try the ppa anyway due to the bug in the detailed view
[12:56] <ochosi> not sure that is fixed in the ppa version
[12:56] <ochosi> never tried tbh
[12:56] <ochosi> always have been using icon view
[12:56] <ochosi> how would i trigger that bug again?
[12:57] <visitor1> by using detailed view?
[12:57] <schlaftier> ochosi: switch to detailed list view (Ctrl-2 or from the view menu), open any directory. Now the directory list should freeze, i.e. not allow any more clicks
[12:57] <visitor1> it just hangs if you use detailed view
[12:57] <schlaftier> switch back to icon view, it should be working again
[12:58] <ochosi> ok, don't experience that bug with thunar 1.1.0
[12:58] <schlaftier> perfect :) I'm upgrading now
[13:04] <schlaftier> ochosi: It works, thanks a lot!
[13:05] <ochosi> schlaftier, good to hear :)
[13:06] <ochosi> schlaftier, if you wanna go crazy with xfce4.7, you can also add this ppa ;) https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa
[13:06] <ochosi> schlaftier, but take a careful look at the packages that didn't build
[13:06] <ochosi> you can see that here: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa/+packages
[13:06] <schlaftier> ochosi: how unstable is it really?
[13:06] <ochosi> i've been using it for a while now, no problems
[13:06] <ochosi> apart from the packages that didn't build, they don't work for now
[13:07] <tycho> oschosi : menu shortcut
[13:07] <schlaftier> ochosi: Good. Because, considering that I'm dualbooting OS X and Xubuntu, you should notice that I like it when "everything just works" ;-)
[13:07] <ochosi> tycho, errm, be a bit more specific, what menu, what shortcut, what's the exact problem?
[13:07] <schlaftier> (Not that I mind manual tweaking and the occasional bug a lot, though)
[13:07] <ochosi> schlaftier, :)
[13:08] <tycho> i have a shortcut in a category on my menu list that dont wokr when i press it
[13:08] <tycho> wnat to check if the shortcut path is ok
[13:09] <ochosi> what shortcut? menu == applications menu?
[13:09] <tycho> yes
[13:09] <ochosi> did you add the shortcut manually?
[13:09] <tycho> yes
[13:09] <tycho> forgot the path
[13:09] <tycho> where they are
[13:09] <ochosi> /usr/share/applications
[13:11] <tycho> hmm theres supposed to be another folder
[13:15] <tycho> yeah
[13:15] <ochosi> ?
[13:17] <tycho> there is another meny applications flder somewhere
[13:17] <tycho> and it is there that shortcut is
[13:17] <tycho> need to remove it and put a new one there
[13:18] <tycho> *put a new one in /usr/share/applications
[13:18] <tycho> another guy here told me the path but i cant remeber it
[13:19] <ochosi> well there's also the user specific folder in ~/.local/share/applications
[13:20] <tycho> yes thats the one
[13:23] <tycho> ochosi how do i move a shortcut from those two
[13:23] <tycho> and delete
[13:23] <ochosi> from the one in your home folder you can do that as a normal user, for /usr/share/.. you have to be superuser
[13:24] <tycho> how do i become a superuser
[13:25] <tycho> !superuser
[13:25] <ochosi> !sudo
[13:25] <ubottu> sudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[13:25] <tycho> if i write sudo in the terminal does it affect the graphical interface
[13:26] <ochosi> tycho, if you really can't deal with the terminal you can also do "gksu thunar"
[13:26] <ochosi> but be careful not to delete any system folders then
[13:28] <tycho> thx
[13:28] <tycho> yup
[13:28] <tycho> do you know how to refresh the xfce menu
[13:28] <tycho> xcfe4-menu refresh something
[13:30] <tycho> woho now it works thx ochosi
[13:34] <ochosi> tycho, np, yw
[13:56] <kelvin1> üdvözlet
[13:58] <Sysi> !hu
[13:58] <ubottu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[15:14] <ferrandu> hi to all
[15:14] <ferrandu> hi to all
[15:16] <Sysi> !hi
[15:16] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[15:27] <xubuntu919> hi
[15:28] <xubuntu919> anyone?
[15:28] <Sysi> !ask
[15:28] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:30] <xubuntu919> I'm trying dpkg  during istallation xubuntu 10.4 but I obtain error
[15:31] <xubuntu919> E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[15:32] <xubuntu919> please, any idea to end installation, thanks.
[15:32] <Sysi> installation gives that error?
[15:33] <xubuntu919> during first Installation from cd
[15:33] <Sysi> wubi?
[15:33] <hexmare> ello all
[15:34] <xubuntu919> It is an image downloaded from main site
[15:34] <Sysi> xubuntu919: did you check the disc for errors?
[15:35] <xubuntu919> no, I can check...
[15:35] <Annuals> hello
[15:35] <Annuals> I am new to Linux
[15:35] <Sysi> are you doing dualboot or to empty disc?
[15:35] <hexmare> have  abit of a stupid question here, I have created swap space on a flash drive, and I would like to mount this drive as extra swap and have this be the primary, I have looked around google and all that I have found thus far refer to perm solutions, whereas with me this drive will only be mounted while I am sitting at the computer
[15:35] <Sysi> !hi | Annuals
[15:35] <ubottu> Annuals: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[15:36] <Sysi> hexmare: why would you like to use usb stick as overall swap?
[15:36] <Annuals> QUESTION:  Whenever I turn on my computer, the same few programs keep opening up.  Pidgin, Remote Desktop, and Firefox.  How can I make it so NO programs ever auto open on a normal bootup?
[15:37] <Annuals> none of them are checked in application autostart
[15:37] <Sysi> Annuals: save session where you don't have progras opened
[15:37] <Sysi> tap in logout dialog
[15:39] <hexmare> Sysi > Flash has a faster seek time
[15:39] <Annuals> so I should have save session always checked or unchecked?
[15:40] <Annuals> or just check it once, close everything, shut down, and then leave it unchecked?
[15:41] <Annuals> ?
[15:41] <Sysi> both work
[15:41] <Annuals> ok
[15:41] <Sysi> it should open last saved session
[15:41] <Sysi> hexmare: usb-sticks are slow, and swap is slow even on hdd
[15:41] <Annuals> oh
[16:20] <ucaledek> hi, I'm running into a snag with the file manager and can't pinpoint if it's a bug or my dumbness :)
[16:22] <ucaledek> anyone feel like lending a hand? I'm new to the xfce
[16:23] <Sysi> detailed wiew and you can't open folders?
[16:24] <ucaledek> I can get one level down, once, can't open filesd and if i go back up i get nothing openable
[16:24] <Sysi> yeah, known bug
[16:24] <ucaledek> ok, it's the detailed view?
[16:26] <ucaledek> cool, thanks a ton
[16:27] <likemindead> I think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.
[16:27] <likemindead> Strange bug, though.
[16:30] <Sysi> yeah, it actually works with that :D
[16:31] <Sysi> very interesting
[16:32] <likemindead> I still <3 Thunar and Xfce sooo much. :-)
[16:34] <Sysi> only thing i miss is volumes control like nautilus
[16:34] <Sysi> i *can* mount things in cli but i prefer clicking
[16:37] <Sysi> that one click thing btw is better than in dolphin
[16:39] <likemindead> http://www.passwordmeter.com/
[16:39] <likemindead> Derr... wrong window.
[17:11] <visitor1> you are right likemindead
[17:12] <likemindead> Eh?
[17:12] <visitor1> I think it'll work in detailed view if you make it single-click to open files.
[17:12] <visitor1> only i am not used to it lol
[17:20] <mac7> hi I installed xubuntu, multiboot system, but now windows cannot be booted, can someone help?
[17:22] <likemindead> Does a Windows option show up in GRUB, mac7?
[17:23] <mac7> likemindead: no, but the windowspartitions are available
[17:23] <mac7> and intact
[17:23] <mac7> I guess I mounted the / incorrectly
[17:25] <likemindead> Yeah, just use the Windows CD or the Ubuntu Cd to rebuild your boot manager.
[17:26] <mac7> oh shit
[17:29] <likemindead> Eh?
[18:29] <man2u> Hi, I installed xubuntu on my multiboot system, windows runs and can be selected in the bootmanager at startup. How can I add xubuntu in a bootmanager? I am now running the live xubuntu cd
[18:30] <Sysi> what kinda lines do you have there already?
[18:30] <Sysi> win or ubuntu bootloader?
[18:30] <man2u> xp & win7
[18:30] <man2u> windows bootloader
[18:31] <man2u> reinstalling xubuntu looks like not possible
[18:33] <Sysi> !grub2
[18:33] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[18:33] <man2u> ... takes quite a lot of time and energy to get xubuntu running on a multiboot system :-(
[18:35] <man2u> How can I start grub2???
[18:36] <Sysi> that multiboot sounds interesting, have you tried to google?
[18:36] <Sysi> #ubuntu should also know
[18:38] <Sysi> with dualboot you should install grub2, idk if multiboot is different
[18:38] <schlaftier> Since switching to the xubuntu-dev PPA, exo-open seems to be broken. Can anyone confirm before I file a bug? Calling exo-open for no matter what file results in a "choose app" dialog. However, Thunar opens files correctly.
[18:40] <man2u> ok, grub installed in the terminal, what should i key in?
[18:42] <Sysi> you should get menu when booting
[18:42] <man2u> huh? I run livecd now...
[18:43] <man2u> so I should reboot???
[18:43] <man2u> ....quite annoying system!
[18:45] <man2u> nobody knows the answer ok...than no more linux again
[18:47] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: You are calling 'exo-open URL'?
[18:49] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: quick example: exo-open /etc/fstab -- then a window appears saying "Open With: Open fstab and other files of type "plain text document" with:"
[18:50] <schlaftier> It will not remember the choice. However, Thunar opens it correctly without asking. This happens since using the xubuntu-dev PPA
[18:51] <man2u> OK, but I run livecd now
[18:51] <man2u> this is what it says
[18:51] <man2u> aufs / aufs rw 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> /dev/sda11 swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:51] <man2u> /dev/sda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:51] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: Looking at man exo-open, that should be correct
[18:52] <man2u> can someone take over my system online?
[18:52] <charlie-tca> It says it used 'xfce-preferred-applications' to open the files, in the case of /etc/fstab, none apply
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Perhaps it was broken and is now working correctly?
[18:53] <man2u> so I should reboot andlook?
[18:54] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: on my other Xubuntu box, "exo-open /etc/fstab" opens it in gedit without asking; just what Thunar would do when double-clicking
[18:55] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I noticed this since apparently Chromium calls exo-open for downloaded files (or xdg-open which in turn calls exo-open)
[18:56] <charlie-tca> hmm, it opened fstab in gedit here
[18:56] <charlie-tca> and this is the computer I tested the ppa fix on
[18:56] <schlaftier> that's strange
[18:57] <charlie-tca> yeah, of course, gedit is my editor thunar open it in too
[18:57] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: That's exactly my point. Thunar opens /etc/fstab in gedit, but exo-open doesn't
[18:58] <charlie-tca> it does here
[18:58] <charlie-tca> 2010-05-22  11:56
[18:58] <charlie-tca>  charlie@wecan:  ~  $ exo-open /etc/fstab
[18:58] <charlie-tca> opened fstab in gedit
[18:58] <schlaftier> I will go back to the official repositories to see if it worked there
[18:59] <charlie-tca> okay
[19:07] <tycho> in the other language versions then english
[19:08] <tycho> are folders like music and documents
[19:08] <tycho> named music and documents in the system, or are they called what they appear?
[19:09] <tycho> if you understand what i am saying
[19:09] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: positive -- with the official repositories, exo-open calls gedit; with the PPA, it shows the "open with" window
[19:25] <tycho> or is all folders name called the same in the "core", and its just the graphical interface that names them music ?
[19:25] <tycho> having a little trouble putting a path because music in swedish is musik and thats whats is says on the folder......
[19:26] <tycho> but i think its correct. eh. sry.
[20:01] <charlie-tca> schlaftier: I don't know what to say. Here I am using the ppa and it works
[20:02] <charlie-tca> tycho: yes, they are what they are called. They are default for your use as required by the freedesktop.org standards
[20:06] <charlie-tca> tycho: those folders are created by Xubuntu as directed in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults
[20:07] <tycho> charlie-tca thanks
[20:07] <charlie-tca> tycho: You are welcome
[20:33] <owen1_> new 9.10 install. keyboard shortcuts not working. (alt+f2 for example, not opening xfrun4). any ideas?
[21:06] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I don't know what to say either. I wouldn't even know where the problem originates
[21:08] <charlie-tca> I think file a new bug report, but go back to the original report that we fixed with the exo- patch and reference the new report in a comment. See if we can get someone to confirm it that way?
[21:09] <charlie-tca> Original report was https://launchpad.net/bugs/520118
[21:52] <slow-motion> hi
[21:54] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: Is the right place for that bug report the xubuntu-dev PPA or the official Ubuntu Launchpad?
[21:55] <charlie-tca> we backported it, launchpad
[21:55] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: thanks
[21:55] <charlie-tca> thank you for filing that
[21:56] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: I tried to look into the code by the way but I got utterly confused tracing what actually happens when exo-open is called
[21:56] <charlie-tca> I leave that to mr_pouit
[22:01] <mr_pouit> no, it's not in the official archive, please don't file bugs in launchpad
[22:02] <mr_pouit> if it's the xubuntu-dev ppa and exo 0.5.2, you should try to file it directly on bugzilla.xfce.org
[22:06] <charlie-tca> If we backported it, isn't it in the archive for Maverick already?
[22:08] <mr_pouit> we backported nothing
[22:08] <mr_pouit> nothing from the xubuntu-dev ppa is in the archive
[22:09] <mr_pouit> that's why I think it's better to file bugs directly on bugzilla.xfce.org for that, rather than lp
[22:10] <charlie-tca> Agreed. If it is not a backport, that would be correct
[22:12] <schlaftier> oh, crap... I just filed it on Launchpad
[22:12] <schlaftier> What now?
[22:12] <schlaftier> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/584343
[22:15] <charlie-tca> That's fine
[23:35] <slow-motion> n8
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