[19:16] <apachelogger> hi!
[19:16] <apachelogger> any one with magic access to the website around
[20:14] <bencrisford> apachelogger: have you found a bug?
[20:14] <apachelogger> well yes
[20:14] <bencrisford> because we have a new website rolling out soon
[20:14] <apachelogger> well it is the content
[20:14] <apachelogger> not the site itself
[20:15] <apachelogger> http://edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[20:15] <bencrisford> so outdated info/bugs on the old site arent our highest priority I think.. :/
[20:15] <apachelogger> it is not kde edutainment anymore
[20:15] <apachelogger> but just "KDE Education"
[20:15] <joerg> hi...
[20:16] <joerg> how does the english speaking world call a schedule/plan in a school where you can see if a lesson is not taking place or held by a supply teacher?
[20:16] <bencrisford> joerg: a timetable..?
[20:16] <bencrisford> not sure if thats what you mean
[20:16] <joerg> nope
[20:17] <joerg> I mean something that says: class 5a, lesson 1 and 2 on monday (biology) will not take place because the teacher is ill, stay at home ;)
[20:17] <bencrisford> apachelogger: im not sure if this will be acted upon due to the new website being worked on at the moment...
[20:18] <joerg> or: mr. foobar is on a business trip to the ministry of education, mr. barfoo will held the math lesson in the 3rd and 4th lesson
[20:18] <apachelogger> bencrisford: so it could be fixed in the new website :)
[20:18] <joerg> in a forum I read the word "cover plan"?
[20:18] <joerg> but people weren't sure about it...
[20:18] <bencrisford> apachelogger: I imagine it will be.. :)  I'm not one of people working on the new website
[20:19] <bencrisford> joerg: a cover plan does sound right actually yeah
[20:19] <bencrisford> joerg: something like that :), in an administrative context it definately makes sense
[20:19] <joerg> ok, thx....
[20:20] <joerg> bencrisford, I am implmenting a portal server for schools
[20:20] <joerg> and well, everything is german here of course :)
[20:20] <joerg> but I use to develop in english
[20:20] <bencrisford> joerg: if you are talking in terms of telling students about absent teachers, then it might not be as appropriate..?  i'm not sure :/ sorry
[20:20] <bencrisford> joerg: cool! :)
[20:20] <joerg> and later let somebody translate to german or do it myself.
[20:21] <joerg> bencrisford, well, in my old school it was like this: you came in you went straight to the "cover plan"
[20:21] <joerg> in the hope that you can sleep longer next day
[20:21] <joerg> because maths in the 1st and 2nd lesson don't take place
[20:21] <joerg> or something like this
[20:22] <bencrisford> joerg: ok I see, that does make sense
[20:22] <joerg> a big blackboard where students and teachers can find out where the regular schedule changed for a particular lesson/day
[20:23] <joerg> the guys who make that plan use some windoze software that can generate html tables from it.
[20:23] <joerg> and I'm trying to parse the data out.
[20:23] <bencrisford> apachelogger: but thank you for letting us know about the error :)
[20:23] <joerg> to make them available on the page, as news feed and to provide an automatic email notification
[20:24] <bencrisford> joerg: nice :), what are you coding in?
[20:24] <joerg> because it sometimes happens that somebody gets ill, the plan changes an evening before and the students don't look on the website...
[20:24] <joerg> and then come to school at 8, even though the first lesson doesn't take place
[20:24] <joerg> python / django
[20:27] <bencrisford> good idea, that sounds pretty cool
[20:29] <joerg> I'll provide a demo very soon
[20:29] <joerg> it is more like a social network with intranet capabilities.
[20:30] <bencrisford> not long ago I started work on a similar project with someone i met through an unrelated FOSS project
[20:31] <bencrisford> but I lost contact with him and haven't really tried for a while :P
[20:31] <bencrisford> i kind of figure now, that my contributions would be more valuable working on existing projects rather than writing new ones that already have a working counterpart
[20:31] <bencrisford> if that makes sense..
[20:32] <joerg> e.g. you can found a group, invite others to join, have friends. share folders and files (read/write) with a group, your friends or everybody at your school. you can design your own profile which is a public discussion board as well, add (google/opensocial) gadgets to your profile or your start page, use it as rss reader, send messages etc.
[20:32] <apachelogger> lmfg47sk
[20:32] <bencrisford> awesome :)
[20:32] <apachelogger> \o/
[20:32] <apachelogger> not my gmail one
[20:32] <apachelogger> doh!
[20:32] <joerg> bencrisford, we haven't found anything suitable for us...
[20:32] <joerg> except a proprietary thing
[20:33] <joerg> where I sometimes get inspiration and ideas from :)
[20:33] <bencrisford> joerg: im not saying you shouldnt work on this!  it sounds very exciting!
[20:33] <bencrisford> but my project was very similar to moodle
[20:33] <bencrisford> so I decided it wasnt really necessary
[20:33] <joerg> hmm, well, I am more trying to integrate all that stuff.
[20:33] <joerg> most of them don't want moodle, but if, they can simply integrate it....
[20:34] <joerg> my portal acts as a single sign on provider (CAS) as well....with ldap in the back you can simply add a link to the moodle stuff and load it in an iframe or new window...
[20:35] <joerg> same thing hopefully for the library thing...
[20:35] <joerg> I am currently watching koha (www.koha.org) which seems to be a very nice ILS and OPAC...
[20:36] <joerg> ...but at present it neither supports CAS nor LDAP
[20:36] <joerg> and has no german translation which is probably the easiest thing to fix
[20:38] <bencrisford> :)
[20:39] <highvoltage> good even4ning joerg and bencrisford
[20:39] <bencrisford> highvoltage: evening :)
[20:40] <bencrisford> highvoltage: apachelogger found a bug in the website, I wasn't sure what to do..  Are we ignoring bugs now because the new website is coming up soon?
[20:40] <joerg> hey highvoltage
[20:41] <highvoltage> bencrisford: nope, best is probably to file a bug on LP so that we can make sure it gets fixed in the new site as well
[20:41] <bencrisford> highvoltage: oookay then :)
[20:41] <bencrisford> apachelogger: I don't mind filing one for you.?  unless you'd like to?
[20:42] <bencrisford> :)
[20:42] <apachelogger> nah, if you have time, feel free to file one :)
[20:42]  * apachelogger is currently at a dev meeting and brainstorming like wild ^^
[20:42] <bencrisford> highvoltage: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/edubuntu-website/+bug/571836 - how about I update the description of that bug report to include the information about tonights one?
[20:43] <bencrisford> I have a couple I need to report
[20:43] <bencrisford> so that could be like a list of all the outdated information..?
[20:43] <bencrisford> actually, thats about the FAQ
[20:43] <bencrisford> maybe not then
[20:43] <bencrisford> unless I updated the summary
[20:45] <bencrisford> If I made it "Edubuntu website has horribly outdated information"
[20:45] <bencrisford> kept the FAQ stuff and added the new bugs to the description
[20:46] <bencrisford> then as many bugs as possible would be in the same place
[20:46] <bencrisford> and thus making it easier for anyone working on the new site
[20:59] <bencrisford> ill just file a new one ;) :)
[21:11] <bencrisford> highvoltage: im making a new one with a long list of bugs which I have just found
[21:18] <bencrisford> bug 584717
[22:51]  * joerg is tired
[22:57] <joerg> vmlintu, hey....are u there?
[22:59] <joerg> would anybody be interested in testing my school portal server? ;)
[22:59] <joerg> I announced it a couple of months ago....on the edubuntu-devel mailinglist
[23:00] <joerg> and well....after almost four months there is finally a little bit to see and to try out...
[23:01] <joerg> gonna post it on the mailing list again, but I'd like to give access to the demo to just a few people first....
[23:01] <joerg> to get some feedback, fix bugs, improve things....it is still in a very early phase of development