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lvhHello!00:08
lvhWhy do Blueprint names start with their project?00:09
lvhWhy aren't blueprints project-local in the first place?00:09
wgrantlvh: They are project-local.00:10
lvhHuh. I must be misremembering behavior I thought I saw then :-)00:11
wgrantI just created two with the same name in different projects on staging.00:12
lvhI guess it was because I was looking for blueprints to link to a branch and the keyword was a common english word00:14
lvhthen again, a branch being linked to someone elses blueprint could make sense00:14
MTecknologyIs there any way to easily make a kernel in a PPA? only one version of the kernel, only one .config?00:26
wgrantMTecknology: You should probably ask the kernel maintainers.00:28
bitmonk1MTecknology: look at kernel-package in debian / ubuntu, provides make-kpkg command for creating kernel debs.00:30
bitmonk1then, you should be able to jam that into a ppa just as any other deb.  not sure if there is a more specialized tool for straight LP00:31
MTecknologybitmonk1: oh.. nifty - I'll have to try it :)00:32
wgrantYou'd probably be better off using the normal kernel packaging in PPA mode.00:33
MTecknologywgrant: I was trying to find some idiot proof wiki for it00:37
bitmonk1MTecknology: ubuntu wiki should have something on building a deb in general01:08
MTecknologybitmonk1: I'm trying with make-kpkg - removed some bloat - make clean && rm -R .git - then put it out to my dev system and ran make-kpkg clean and now I'm trying fakeroot make-kpkg--append-to-version=-foo kernel-image kernel-headers01:10
bitmonk1sounds like you're on the right track ..01:12
bitmonk1don't forget to hit /etc/kernel-package.conf and put your info in as maintainer01:12
MTecknologybitmonk1: thanks01:13
MTecknologybitmonk1: just realized I haven't run make oldconfig yet :P01:14
bitmonk1MTecknology: have you created a ppa yet?02:03
bitmonk1and, in general: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading02:03
MTecknologybitmonk1: ya, I have one02:03
MTecknologybitmonk1: I've used it for some apps - never a kernel though02:03
bitmonk1should be no different.02:04
MTecknologybitmonk1: I suppose once make-kpkg runs it makes everything needed for debuild02:04
bitmonk1if it is then, i'm interested to know how.  i have been meaning to package some xen kernels for a while..02:04
bitmonk1make-kpkg should give you a .deb02:04
bitmonk1or three02:04
MTecknologybitmonk1: yup - but I can't just run dput on a .deb?02:05
bitmonk1what distro are you on?02:06
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doctormo_[20:08] <bitmonk1> MTecknology: ubuntu wiki should have something on building a deb in general02:07
doctormo_[20:10] <MTecknology> bitmonk1: I'm trying with make-kpkg - removed some bloat - make clean && rm -R .git - then put it out to my dev system and ran make-kpkg clean and now I'm trying fakeroot make-kpkg--append-to-version=-foo kernel-image kernel-headers02:07
doctormo_[20:12] <bitmonk1> sounds like you're on the right track ..02:07
doctormo_[20:13] <bitmonk1> don't forget to hit /etc/kernel-package.conf and put your info in as maintainer02:07
doctormo_[20:13] <MTecknology> bitmonk1: thanks02:07
doctormo_[20:14] <MTecknology> bitmonk1: just realized I haven't run make oldconfig yet :P02:07
doctormo_[21:03] <bitmonk1> MTecknology: have you created a ppa yet?02:07
doctormo_[21:03] <bitmonk1> and, in general: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading02:07
doctormo_[21:03] <MTecknology> bitmonk1: ya, I have one02:07
doctormo_[21:03] <MTecknology> bitmonk1: I've used it for some apps - never a kernel though02:07
bitmonk1whee02:07
MTecknologybitmonk1: lucid02:07
MTecknologydoctormo_: have a little accident?02:07
bitmonk1so, yah, i dunno why i thought you could send a deb.  anyway, i believe make-kpkg debianizes your source tree02:09
MTecknologybitmonk1: ya, thatt's what I meant with "everything needed for debuild" :)02:09
MTecknologybitmonk1: works for me :)02:09
bitmonk1give it a shot, let me know if it doesn't work and i'll throw something together in my local env02:10
MTecknologybitmonk1: alrighty - I'm fixing up changelog and control - I require another package in mine :P02:10
MTecknologybitmonk1: debuild -S -sa failed - and ./debian/ went away :(02:17
bitmonk1O.o02:17
bitmonk1read the kernel-package documentation, there are a number of ways it can be used.  the default is just to build the entire packages for you, but i suspect it can be used to prepare a package for debuild.02:18
MTecknologybitmonk1: I guess I get to do that again - and then I won't touch anything except for the changlog sig line for signing02:19
MTecknologybitmonk1: I have always been using make all modules_install install for my kernel :P02:19
bitmonk1sure, that's the quickest path usually, until you want reproducibility ;d02:20
MTecknology:P02:21
MTecknologybitmonk1: that's my goal eventually02:22
MTecknologybitmonk1: actually... I'd like to eventually add a patch to include vbox modules in the kernel and then have a completely monolithic kernel :P02:22
MTecknologybitmonk1: deletes the debian/ again02:23
bitmonk1i thought ubu was shipping vbox support in -generic, or at least an enabled kernel, since karmic or prior.  no?02:27
bitmonk1oh, okay, modules, sure.02:28
bitmonk1i haven't worried about having a fully monolithic kernel in ages, i forget what exactly the costs of modules are, except having to configure them to load properly.02:29
MTecknologybitmonk1: i don't think it's that high - but right now I only have my vbox kernels - everything else fits in a 3.9mb lzo image02:30
bitmonk1interesting, what are you netbooting?02:31
bitmonk1some kind of specialized system? sounds interesting .02:32
MTecknologybitmonk1: just my laptop :P02:32
bitmonk1why the focus on compactness?02:33
MTecknologyi'm psychotic :P02:33
bitmonk1just, sort of curious.  it's always an interesting challenge to take on.02:33
bitmonk1hah02:33
bitmonk1fair enough02:33
MTecknologymy whole system is like this02:33
bitmonk1masochistic ;d02:33
MTecknology:P02:34
MTecknologyI've been called that a few times02:34
MTecknologybitmonk1: I ran just 'make-kpkg debian' which builds debian/ but it gets deleted when running debuild -S -sa02:37
* bitmonk1 is more familiar with make-kpkg than debuild, sadly02:38
bitmonk1something i need to strengthen02:38
MTecknologybitmonk1: I have been using my own kernel al ong time - but now all I want is to put it into a ppa02:38
MTecknologybitmonk1: maybe I need to add the buildpackage target..02:46
MTecknologybitmonk1: yuppers... - that's what I needed - now we'll see about making my kernel publicly available :)02:52
bitmonk1so, what did you have to do?02:53
bitmonk1change, file-wise, that is?02:53
bitmonk1i'd just like to note it, as i said, i have been meaning to ppa some kernels myself.02:55
bitmonk1perhaps there is even a wiki somewhere we could contribute to..02:55
MTecknologybitmonk1: I'd enjoy reading one about this :P02:57
MTecknologybitmonk1: I'll grab the command when this finishes02:57
bitmonk1well, i'm just asking, what did you have to change to get it to work? could you give me a paste of the commands you ran or something? i may turn it into documentation.02:57
bitmonk1yah pls do :)02:57
MTecknologyjust one line actually02:57
bitmonk1sweet.02:58
MTecknologybitmonk1: apparenlty make-kpkg also compiles it on the system :P03:12
MTecknologymake-kpkg buildpackage *03:12
bitmonk1i believe you may be able to pass it options that don't, however.03:12
MTecknologyoh03:12
bitmonk1yeah it will for sure03:12
bitmonk1that's its' typical usage, outside of ppa-land, where you make some debs and put them in an apache folder or something..03:13
MTecknologyi like ppa-land03:13
bitmonk1sure, just saying, make-kpkg far predates ppa-land.  i'm not 100% sure, but i suspect you can tell it not to build.03:14
bitmonk1another option is, you can apt-get source the kernel you want to modify, and just touch the .config and Changelog and such03:14
bitmonk1maybe rename it kernel-mteck-mono-vbox or something03:14
MTecknologybitmonk1: if this works you should take a peak :)03:20
MTecknologybitmonk1: so far it's built 2 .debs and a xxxx_source.build03:26
MTecknologybitmonk1: i'm assuming the other parts are coming that are needed for a ppa build :P03:26
bitmonk1MTecknology: url?03:57
bitmonk1oh i thought you meant the farm, your box03:57
bitmonk1absolutely i would like to take a look.03:57
MTecknologybitmonk1: farm? my farm is one box :P04:00
bitmonk1no i meant, i thought like, launchpad was building them..04:00
MTecknologyoh04:01
MTecknologynot yet :(04:01
MTecknologybitmonk1: :S - i keep seeming to find that make-kpkg isn't designed for making a package that can be uploaded to ppa04:08
bitmonk1perhaps, and if so, i apologize, but it should produce a source deb, and it seems that you should be able to modify a source deb for ppa upload.04:09
bitmonk1i'm not quite a ppa upload expert, to be fair.  just trying to help.04:09
MTecknologybitmonk1: I appreciate the help - and I hear make-kpkg used a lot - just haven't seen it used for this - I've been searching online for a while04:10
MTecknologybitmonk1: it seems only smart people that hate docs do this :P05:09
FloSofthi, i've got following bug: i upgraded my repository from format 6 to 7, now i upgraded my bzr from 1.3 to 2.1 (from launchpad ubuntu ppa) and I've got a lock on the branch (now for 80 hours) i broke that lock now, otherwise i was not able to upload anymore12:43
FloSoftperhaps the upgrade process finished, but did not removed the lock?12:43
magciusLoggerhead is down?14:28
thopiekarhi15:06
thopiekaris it possible to change the projects "root name"? like of this one? https://launchpad.net/mopedix15:06
beunothopiekar, you need to file a question in Launchpad15:22
thopiekarhere, beuno ? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad15:23
nigelbthopiekar: yes, there15:24
thopiekarthanks, nigelb, beuno15:24
humphreybcHow can I unsubscribe our team's mailing list from our project bug mail?22:56
thumperhumphreybc: the team is probably the bug contact23:01
thumperif it is, it23:01
thumperwill get email23:02
humphreybcah23:02
humphreybcwhere do I change that?23:02
humphreybcbug supervisor is set to none23:02
thumperis the team subscribed to the bugs of the project?23:02
* thumper wonders where that is set23:02
* thumper thinks23:03
thumperthe email contact falls back to the project owner if there is no bug supervisor set23:03
thumperso the project owner will get the bug mail23:03
thumperthere isn't a setting for turning this off right now23:03
humphreybcoh23:03
thumperone thing to do23:04
thumperis to set up a different bug contact23:04
humphreybcso project owner = maintainer?23:04
thumpermostly23:04
humphreybcso do I have to set up some special account or mailing list?23:04
thumperif you don't want the email, yes23:05
humphreybcright23:05
thumperhumphreybc: for ubuntu-manual?23:05
humphreybcyep23:05
thumperset up a team called ubuntu-manual-bugs23:05
thumperget a mailing list23:05
thumpermake it the contact address for the team (somehow)23:06
humphreybclol23:06
thumperand don't subscribe to the mailing list23:06
thumperat least then23:06
thumperthere are archives if you want to check23:06
thumperand those who do want the mail23:06
humphreybcah ha23:06
humphreybcokay23:06
thumpercan subscribe23:06
humphreybcwho approves the mailing lists?23:08
bitmonk1it's up to you, i think, it can be approval based subscription or no.23:09
humphreybcI just "applied" for a mailing list and it says a Launchpad administrator will review and approve it23:09
humphreybcI was wondering who does that23:09
humphreybcthumper: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual-bugs23:20
thumperhumphreybc: they used to be manually approved23:20
thumperbut no longer23:20
humphreybcI've set it up correctly, and ubuntu-manual-bugs is set to the bug supervisor for our project, but we're still getting bug mail in the main list23:20
* thumper pokes LP23:21
humphreybcWeird, the main list just got some bug mail from this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/58462723:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 584627 in Ubuntu Manual "On page 9, a dash should not appear at the beginning of a line (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress]23:22
thumperhumphreybc: take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+subscribe23:22
humphreybcbut then ubuntu-manual-bugs is apparently getting bug mail too, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-bugs/23:22
thumperhumphreybc: are their any team checkboxes?23:23
humphreybcthumper: http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/bugs.png23:23
humphreybctis what I have23:23
thumperhumphreybc: I'm out of suggestions23:24
thumperhumphreybc: ask a question on the launchpad bugs project23:24
humphreybcblast! Well I guess we'll wait and see if it gets better23:24
humphreybcokay, i'll give it a couple of days23:24
humphreybcmaybe it's something to do with old bugs that the main team was originally subscribed to23:25
thumperwait23:25
thumperhumphreybc: for one of the bugs you didn't want on the main list23:25
thumperhumphreybc: pastebin the raw email23:25
thumperthere are a bunch of email headers that'll help23:25
humphreybchttp://paste.ubuntu.com/438526/23:26
thumperhumphreybc: that isn't all the email23:26
thumperhumphreybc: I want to see all the headers23:26
humphreybchow can I do that in gmail?23:27
humphreybcah23:27
humphreybcshow original23:27
humphreybchttp://paste.ubuntu.com/438527/23:27
thumperX-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Registrant (Ubuntu Manual) @ubuntu-manual23:29
thumperthat is the reason you got the mail23:29
thumpernow the question is why it does that23:30
wgrantThat really suggests that the bug supervisor was unset for a little while.23:34
thumperwgrant: it was23:34
thumperwgrant: but if the bug supervisor is now set, why is the team still getting emails?23:34
wgrantIs it?23:35
wgrantThe last email on the list is from just around the time of the original discussion.23:36
wgrant# Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:05:35 -000023:36
wgrantWhich seems like 31 minutes ago.23:37
wgrantNote the notifications could take up to 5 minutes after the bug supervisor change to take effect.23:37
humphreybcthey've stopped now... fingers crossed :)23:38
wgrant(and Launchpad will sometimes lie that emails have been sent an hour in the future, so that may be throwing things off slightly)23:39
bitmonk1heh.. it's always great when a log of email delivery is created sometime other than when the email is delivered ;d23:44
pooliehi wgrant23:46
wgrantMorning poolie.23:47

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