=== ZachK_1 is now known as That_Wiki_Guy [04:25] just installed celestia via aptitude, but it didn't put a shortcut in applications. I can run it via terminal, but I'd like to have a shortcut for it. How would I add one? [04:29] iantlopp: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu. Choose the folder you'd like to place it under, and select New Item. Give it a name, and use the command you would use to execute it from the terminal. [04:30] I just use celestia.. I don't have to select the directory it's installed in? [04:31] iantlopp: Not if it's in your path. [04:31] yay, awesome, it works :) [04:31] btw, anyone into astronomy, I highly recommend it. [04:47] hey there all, was wondering if anyone could help me with terminal server client [04:48] I am trying to connect to a friend's computer running windows 7 [04:48] pizza_the_hut: Are you using ubuntu? [04:48] but I am unable to connect [04:48] yes, I am using ubuntu [04:49] What version [04:49] 10.04? [04:49] does it make a difference that his machine is connected thru wifi? [04:49] No it shouldn't [04:49] hmm... let check my version [04:49] it should be the latest one [04:50] Which program are you trying to connect with? [04:50] terminal server client [04:50] nvm, you already stated that :) [04:50] Go to Applications -> Internet -> Remote Desktop [04:50] That_Wiki_Guy: No, that only does vnc [04:51] geirha: Well he's just trying to connect to a pc is he not? [04:51] geirha: Therefore it shouldn't pose a problem [04:51] Sure, but his friend will have to install a vnc server [04:52] btw, my version is 10.04 [04:52] pizza_the_hut: Are you able to connect to it with any other protocol? [04:53] i haven't tried any other protocols [04:53] isn't it "terminal server client" to connect to a windoze using RDC? [04:53] nomnex: Yes. [04:53] geirha, so that should work out of the box [04:54] pizza_the_hut: And both machines are on the same network (lan)? [04:54] they are not on the same network [04:54] his machine is about a mile away :D [04:55] Ok, then your friend most likely need to forward the correct port on his router [04:55] i don't follow [04:55] And IP Address [04:56] pizza_the_hut: You cannot access his computer if it's behind a router, you can only contact the router [04:57] So your friend needs to tell the router that any remote desktop connections should be forwarded to his computer [04:57] how is that accomplished? [04:57] http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Remote_Desktop/Remote_Desktopindex.htm [04:57] That one has instructions for tons of different routers [04:58] That_Wiki_Guy, this how to for your friends http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/remoteintro.mspx [04:58] nomnex: Ah I didn't need the help dude [04:59] so once he sets up this port forwarding, I should be able to use RDP to get in? [05:00] That_Wiki_Guy, okay then. as geirha suggested VNC would be a better option if your friend can install it. [05:00] Yes, by connecting to the router's external IP [05:01] nomnex: Im not the one who needs help dude.. I give help [05:01] VNC and RDP are different protocols with different use cases [05:01] That_Wiki_Guy, oh my... sorry about it. [05:02] nomnex: Its cool..I'm sure the guy who was asking the questions will get the info... [05:02] That_Wiki_Guy: now now, even members don't know everything about ubuntu :p [05:02] nomnex: I was trying to help him out lol [05:03] nomnex: And I didn't suggest using VNC ;P [05:03] Lol [05:03] so well, I do [05:04] RDC sucks big time, there is not VPN, it's slow... [05:04] RDP... [05:05] Well, with vnc you take control of a logged in session. With rdp, you open a separate session. [05:08] not sure what the goal is, but connecting with ssh gives you terminal access to a remote server [05:08] just throwing that out there ;) [05:09] looks like my friend doesn't have physical access to his router until the morning. Will try again then. Thanks for the help, fellas! [05:11] pizza_the_hut: No problem [05:11] pizza_the_hut: Definetly come back [05:12] will do!! [05:12] pizza_the_hut, if you are still here you can take a look there https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/39552, there is mention of NTRconnect, that could help? I have never tried it. I don't even know it. [05:12] ssh + irssi + screen = win [05:12] pizza_the_hut, it was a request for Team Viewer on Linux (if you know this app, it's very handy, but not ported on Linux) [05:13] pizza_the_hut: Is your computer behind a firewall/router? [05:14] If he can connect to you with ssh, he can open a tunnel, and you can connect through that. [05:14] nomnex: not familiar, can you tell me a bit more? [05:14] geirha: I am behind a router [05:16] Well, if you forward port 22, your friend can connect and set up a tunnel for port 3389 with putty [05:17] http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html [05:19] Once the (remote) tunnel is up, you can connect to port 3389 on localhost [05:23] pizza_the_hut, no offense geirha, but if you want the easy way, team viewer is ported on Linux http://teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx [05:24] I have just read, there is a .deb file available and it's router pass-trough, you don't need any setting [05:24] for casual use with a remote Win box, that's a good take [05:26] personally I would go for geirha, but that's more work on both sides (if your friend can do it?) [05:26] my mom, surely can't ;-) [05:30] my friend is kinda inept lol [05:30] i'll wait for the morning, but i will read into these other options :D [05:31] pizza_the_hut, I guess Team Viewer is for both of u then. It's free (with a monthly limit of time). Good luck [05:33] Hehe, my mom tried using a computer once. She called me up because she had done a search, and now she wanted to search for another thing, but she was unable to remove the previous search term. [05:35] So I told here to hit the button above the Enter key until the previous text was gone. She replied «That's what I'm trying, but it just adds +es to the end. [05:37] geirha, she must be using Mikeysoft, their OS is so confusing. [05:38] No, actually I think it was the Ubuntu computer I set up last I was home. [05:39] geirha, ur mom using Ubuntu, nice :-) [05:39] Problem was, the only key that says "Enter" is on the numpad [05:40] So she typed the key above that one, which is a + key [05:40] * tati asks would anyone know what plug in i need to use brasero disc burning? [05:40] tati: Should be installed out-of-theD[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D-box [05:41] What the... where did all those [Ds come from?! [05:41] tati, none, but there is a bug with the Normalize plug-in, you need to disable it or you session will not complete (dunno if they have fixed it on 10.04, but it is still present on 9.10) [05:42] i'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 and i'm not able to burn the file to my cd [05:44] this is what shows up when i try to burn to the cd: the medium is not availabe with the current set of plugins [05:46] upgrade or clean install? Can't you upgrade using apt-get directly? [05:48] do you try with a clean empty DVD instead of a CD? [05:48] no....i only bought cds [05:49] ddin't think that i could a dvd [05:49] i mean use a dvd [05:49] how would i use apt-get? [05:50] The Ubuntu image is highly compressed, it did work better on a DVD [05:52] system > software sources > updates > release update and select Long Term release [05:53] it will modify your sources.list file and add the 10.04 source, then you should be able to update using System > Update manager [05:55] personal: I would highly recommend a clean install (if you have a Intel 855 GPU - there is a bug, and you won't be able to use 10.04) [05:56] the problem is i'm not able to burn to a cd.....and can't burn to a usb stick...i don't have any blank dvds [05:57] do you test your drive burning something else on a CD? [05:58] yup....the cd is not recognized in the cd drive.... [05:58] sounds like a generic error message, not necessary related to a plug-in [05:59] what does this mean? : the medium is not availabe with the current set of plugins [06:00] is your version Intrepid? [06:01] i have 8.04 lts [06:01] i think its called hardy heron [06:01] idk what plugin would be needed for a blank cd, but ubuntu-restricted-extras has a lot of plugins and codecs that can't be included by default, something in there might help [06:01] yes,right [06:02] any suggestions? [06:02] you could try $ cdrecord myfile.iso [06:03] ok [06:03] or install gnome backer sudo apt-get install gnomebaker and see if it works [06:04] what does $ cdrecord myfile.iso do? [06:04] gnomebaker is a GUI and (i guess) it uses cdrecord? [06:06] cdrecord is a commond line to burn CD, DVD, ISO, etc. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html [06:07] this came up: wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Asuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.Device was not specified. Trying to find an appropriate drive... Using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor [06:09] ummm.. why would explorer.exe be listed as a running process on my system? [06:11] can you try installing gnomebaker first? in the terminla sudo apt-get install gnomebake [06:11] ok i'll try that [06:13] if that does not work, look down this page for your option using the command line, there are mkisofs or cdrecord (I use the first) [06:13] link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning [06:13] good luck [06:15] nomnex: how do i uninstall this? [06:16] tati, what? [06:17] tati, I meant install what... [06:18] nomnex: how do i uninstall gnomebaker? [06:19] tati:: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker [06:19] is the terminal open? [06:19] install won't uninstall it [06:22] sudo apt-get remove gnomebaker (sorry) [06:22] hobgoblin, thanks [06:22] :) [06:23] thanks [06:23] lunch time, see you! [06:28] * tati asks what does this mean? wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Asuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.Device was not specified. Trying to find an appropriate drive... Using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Cap [06:30] tati: not sure exactly what that means. did you get that error using the cdrecord command? [06:31] i typed this: cdrecord myfile.iso [06:33] tati: so you're trying to burn the ubuntu 10.04 iso, right? [06:33] yup [06:34] tati: ok.... where is the iso file? is it on your desktop? also, what is the *exact* name of the file? [06:34] kermiac! [06:34] kermiac: where have you been dude? [06:34] hey ZachK_ mate! [06:37] ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso [06:38] tati: and it's saved on your desktop? or somewhere else? [06:38] its on my desktop [06:39] tati: ok try this in a terminal window... [06:39] cd Desktop [06:40] cdrecord ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso [06:40] ok will do [06:40] ok tati, let me know how it goes :) [06:41] this is what came up: wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Asuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.Device was not specified. Trying to find an appropriate drive... Using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : [06:42] ah, ok.... that's not good. time to try something else [06:43] tati: please try the following command "apt-cache policy brasero" (without the quotes) in a terminal window [06:43] tati: I only need one line of the output - the "Installed" line [06:44] e.g on my lucid box it says "Installed: 2.30.0-0ubuntu1" [06:44] Installed: 0.7.1-3ubuntu1 [06:45] tati: ok, we can try to burn the image using brasero then :) [06:46] tati: in the terminal window (so we can see any erros if they pop up) please type "brasero" (without the quotes). [06:46] i've been trying that....hopefully i'll be able to with your help =) [06:46] tati: this should display the brasero cd burning app [06:47] it did [06:48] tati: ok, can you see the "burn image" button? [06:49] just a sec [06:49] tati: ok :) [06:50] yup saw that button [06:50] tati: ok, click on the "burn image" button. [06:50] tip: use the slowest speed [06:51] tati: then you will need to select the "ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso" on your desktop [06:52] this shows up in the box: the medium is not available with the current set of plug-ins [06:53] something's not right then :\ [06:53] hmm.. same thing :( [06:53] actually it says the medium is not writable with the current set of plug-ins [06:54] ok, I'll try to dig up some more info [06:54] ok === whore is now known as apple [06:55] i wonder if unetbootin would be easier [06:56] tati: if you right click on the iso file on your desktop, is there anything in the right-click menu saying something about "write to disk"? [06:56] tati: please close brasero first [06:56] ok [06:57] * kermiac doesn't have an 8.04 machine or VM here to verify atm [06:57] yes [06:57] tati: ok, what happens when you click on that? [06:58] is this on 8.04? I think there was a bug [06:59] why yes it is [06:59] iit say write disc to file image and it has a write button [06:59] hobgoblin: if it's the bug I'm thinking of wasn't it in 0.8? tati has Installed: 0.7.1-3ubuntu1 [07:00] tati: yes, please click on that & let me know what happens [07:00] tati: wait [07:00] kermiac: no idea - I'm working on memory at the moment - not enough ine in me to work google [07:01] hobgoblin: yeah, I know brasero has/had a *lot* of issues :( [07:01] indeed ;) [07:01] hey hobgoblin! [07:01] * hobgoblin wonders what codes are installed ... [07:01] hi ZachK_ [07:02] tati: write disc to file image sounds like it wants to write it to another iso file instead of a cd [07:03] it said is completed copying the disc image [07:04] tati: have you tried a different blank CD? brasero has a tendency to not recognize a decent precentage of blank CDs... [07:05] tati: is there now another .iso file on your desktop or in your "Home" directory"? I think this just made another .iso image [07:05] i have a pack of 10 and only tried 3 [07:05] i actually have 2 iso files on my desktop [07:05] should i delete 1? [07:06] tati: if you have a spare USB drive and the computer can boot from USB, unetbootin might be easier: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [07:08] ddecator: tati doesn't have a usb drive :( I advised them to get some cds as it was the cheaper option [07:08] ah, ok [07:09] tati: did you try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras? [07:09] i actually have a usb drive now....but its only 2GB.... [07:09] how do i install ubuntu-restricted extras? [07:09] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras [07:09] ZachK_: so how are you then? [07:10] hobgoblin: doin ok...u? [07:10] hobgoblin: got several projects i'm working on not to mention soon to be college(I hope) [07:10] pretty good ty - I have 2 4 day weeks coming up and a long weekend in between :D [07:10] ZachK_: oh good for you :) [07:10] cool [07:12] ddecator: will that help? [07:13] tati: if it's not installed it probably would - though possibly you just need some codecs [07:13] tati: not sure, but it can't hurt. that package contains a lot of codecs that ubuntu can't legally include in the default installation, but users are able to install for free. a codec in there could help with this [07:13] tati: it's worth a try :) [07:14] tati: if that doesn't work we may need to try installing another cd burning app - k3b [07:14] tati: what I would do first though - is search in synaptic for gstreamer - make sure you have good bad and ugly [07:14] * hobgoblin mutters that brasero should burn an iso without any of that though grrrrr ;) [07:15] * tati says this came up on the screen : ┌───────────────────────┤ Configuring msttcorefonts ├───────────────────────┐ │ │ │ msttcorefonts uses defoma │ │ [07:15] * tati shows: │ msttcorefonts uses defoma │ │ │ │ Msttcorefonts uses the DEbian FOnt MAnager (defoma). If you wish to use │ │ the fonts provided by this package under the X Window System, you must │ │ configure it to use defoma fonts. [07:15] hobgoblin: I totally agree... all that tatiis trying to do is burn un ubuntu 10.04 iso [07:16] tati I really hope you're not going to paste the lot :( [07:17] * tati says: was just trying to show what came up... [07:17] hobgoblin: i agree, but brasero keeps complaining about not being able to do it with the current software :\ [07:17] tati: if there is a lot of output, use paste.ubuntu.com :) [07:18] imo restricted extras is overkill - would have been better to go for the codecs - but nvm now :) [07:18] kermiac: I was thinking of k3b too if necessary [07:18] Not a lot of love for Empathy Client. [07:18] * hobgoblin neither [07:19] hobgoblin: i think that old version of brasero might bee too borked [07:19] hobgoblin: just wasn't sure what codec would be needed, and rather than go through each one -extras gets all of the likely candidates :p [07:19] Slow as Christmas and cant get a room list. [07:19] ir0n0xid3_: yah, a lot of people still use pidgin [07:20] ir0n0xid3_: I only use irc so an irc client is enough here [07:20] I can see where they are going with it. It is nice that it correlates everything but very soccer mom. [07:20] ir0n0xid3_: haha, never heard it put that way [07:20] nothing but love for the soccer moms. [07:21] Im married to one [07:23] Am I lagging or is this room kindof quiet? [07:23] * tati says what should i do next? [07:24] tati: try to burn the original iso again [07:24] tati: if that has installed - try and burn it [07:24] ir0n0xid3_: it gets quiet at times [07:24] ir0n0xid3_: you might be lagging - but we are not chatting as such - more waiting for tati to do stuff :) [07:25] ok [07:25] Whats up with tati? Having some trouble I see. [07:26] * tati says i do appreciate the help [07:26] tati: and we like helping :) [07:26] tati: we know or we would not :) [07:27] easy to tell the trolls from the rest of us it is :) [07:27] hehehehhe [07:27] * tati says it still doesn't work [07:27] that talsemgeest is a terrible troll [07:27] hobgoblin: yoda, when did you get in here? [07:27] k3b time [07:27] ddecator: always here I am [07:28] hang on [07:28] kermiac: you've had more experience with k3b than me, care to help out? :) [07:28] ddecator: yup, no probs :) === apple is now known as karmic [07:28] tati: in a terminal window please type the following: [07:28] sudo apt-get install k3b [07:32] hi [07:32] it just finished [07:32] anyone there? [07:32] tati: yup [07:33] this is nagesh [07:33] i have few questons on ubuntu [07:33] tati: ok, k3b should be listed in your applications menu under "sound and video" [07:33] tati: please open k3b [07:34] i have installed uhuntu and windows xp on same system [07:34] how to check where ubuntu is installed [07:34] * tati shows : No CD/DVD writer found. K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation. [07:34] Nagesh: sudo fdisk -l [07:35] kermiac: wodim issues I am sure I had the same thing in hardy :( [07:35] tati: is 8.04 completely updated ? [07:36] hobgoblin: did you workaround them? I haven't had the "pleasure" of dealing with wodim issues before [07:36] kermiac: it was 18 months ago - I'll wield some google fu for a while [07:36] i updated it today except for the hplip udate.... [07:37] thanks hobgoblin... I've come across a few things, but nothing that seems like a workaround for this issue :( [07:39] tati: for the moment to get some more information please start brasero or k3b from the terminal and try - then you can paste us the error messages to paste.ubuntu.com [07:40] ok [07:44] tati: also run this in a terminal and paste to the pastebin dpkg -l gstreamer* |grep plugins [07:45] i was just wondering how do u see the stuff that i put in the pastebin? [07:46] when you put it in the pastebin - put a name in the box and click the paste button = then give use the new url you get [07:46] ok [07:48] * tati says heres the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/438192/ [07:53] tati: did you try running k3b from the terminal and trying to get the burn going - there will be output in the terminal - i want to see it [07:53] aluex: welcome back :) [07:54] i tried to run k3b from the the main menu [07:54] hobgoblin, nice to meet u [07:54] hobgoblin: how would i run it from the terminal? [07:54] hobgoblin, my computer works well now. [07:54] tati: just type k3b and enter [07:55] aluex: great :) [07:55] hobgoblin, i just come here for a wander [07:55] even better :) [07:56] :) [07:56] tati: go to Settings > Configure - then look in the Programs tab - mine does not have wodim - does yours? [07:57] * tati says heres the error message from k3b :http://paste.ubuntu.com/438193/ [07:57] let me check [07:59] 'me says can't find the settings on my main menu [08:01] hobgoblin: don't know why i don't have settings on my main menu [08:02] * hobgoblin neither [08:04] * tati says there was wodim in one of the error messages before [08:05] yea there would have been [08:08] hobgoblin: do u need to see that error message again? [08:10] no thanks I have them [08:10] ok [08:11] kermiac: I am not finding what I need :( trying to sort through the morass which is burning in hardy is a complete 'mare :( [08:12] tati can you run brasero from the terminal and go through burning the iso [08:13] tati: can I ask what it is you are trying to achieve - if it is burning the iso to install the new ubuntu have you thought about burning to a usb - assuming the machine will boot from usb [08:14] hobgoblin: how much memory do u need on an usb? [08:14] hobgoblin: not sure if the machine will boot from usb [08:14] about the same as the cd I think - never actually done it myself :) [08:15] i'll run brasero [08:15] hobgoblin: yeah, cd burning in hardy has/had a *lot* of issues :( [08:16] t'was not so good [08:17] it shows the same thing as before, do u need a screen shot? [08:17] tati: I want the paste of the terminal output :) [08:18] this is what shows up after running brasero: Sense key: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 Sense key: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 [08:18] that's all? [08:19] when i try to burn, i can't get past the setup because it still says the medium is not writable with the current set of plugins [08:19] sigh [08:19] hobgoblin: if the cd burning issues are getting a bit much, might try usb startup-disk-creator - [16:09:52] i actually have a usb drive now....but its only 2GB.... [08:20] kermiac: need to make sure the machine boots with usb first I think :) [08:20] hobgoblin: good point :) [08:20] tati: ok - in a terminal run this gksudo k3b [08:21] vague memories kicking in again here ... [08:21] tati: are you running ubuntu? I assume so [08:22] i just ran the k3b [08:22] yes have ubuntu 8.04 [08:24] * tati says here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438202/ [08:25] * tati says this configuration problem came up: No CD/DVD writer found. K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation. Running K3b as root user It is not recommended to run K3b under the root user account. This introduces unnecessary security r [08:29] I don't know - I'm lost [08:30] tati: are you intending to install 10.04 ? I wonder if we'd be better of looking into usb install [08:31] yes i want to install 10.04 [08:31] hobgoblin: yeah, the 8.04 install is on a 2nd hand machine, it was already installed before tati received the PC. this is tati's first experience with Ubuntu & it only happened due to windows dying on their main pc [08:31] aaah [08:32] tati: please note that it "normally" isn't this difficult to use Ubuntu [08:32] tati: do you know to get into BIOS and see if you can boot with usb? [08:32] and +1 to that ^^ [08:32] no i don't [08:32] Does the cd drive read ok? [08:33] ok - are you online with a different machine or the one you want to install too [08:33] it s just hard to believe that ubuntu isn't that difficult right now =( [08:33] the one that i want to install too [08:33] geirha: good point - I was not knowing it was an old 2nd hand job [08:33] tati: I understand your frustrations... the main problem here is that it seems like this old installation was already messed up before you received the pc [08:33] tati: I have a 10 year old daughter using ubuntu [08:34] tati: ok - are you online with a different machine or the one you want to install too [08:34] wow...thats pretty good [08:34] hobgoblin: +1 to that! my kids (3, 7 & 8) only use Ubuntu at home :) [08:34] i'm just missing windows right now.... ;) [08:34] * hobgoblin wonders if making sure we only have standard repos - installling ubuntu-desktop and then an upgrade would be the way to go [08:35] tati: do you have a machine with windows available? [08:35] no i wish i did [08:35] both my laptops died [08:35] k - write this down then - Esc Del Fsomething :) [08:36] well actually one died and the other one won't start windows after the error screen [08:36] u serious.... [08:36] reboot the machine - then watch carefully - it is liekly one of those will be there saying "To Enter Setup ..." [08:37] hobgoblin: tati: might be an idea to try this on the other pc that doesn't boot into windows any more [08:37] that way at least tati can still access help here [08:37] do whichever it is then go through each option - you will be looking for Boot order - see if there's an option to boot with usb [08:37] tati: And the ubuntu box is a stationary machine? [08:38] tati: Or that laptop with non-working windows? [08:38] ubuntu is on my desktop [08:38] geirha: kermiac: to be honest I am more inclined to try an upgrade I think [08:38] morning lukjad007 [08:38] hobgoblin: yup, that's always an option :) [08:39] hobgoblin: I just don't want tati to lose the only support they currently have available to them [08:40] well at the worst - there will be issues with the upgrade - but there will be a burner that works - assuming that the hardware is good [08:40] The problems with the cd-drive could be hardware related. Perhaps a loose or faulty ide-cable. [08:40] +1 [08:40] * kermiac nods [08:41] mmmm [08:42] And if the laptop has a cd-burner, you could put the iso on a usb, boot the laptop with the usb, then burn it from there ^^ [08:42] will tell u if the laptop works [08:42] did hardy have right click burn in nautilus ? [08:43] hobgoblin: Yes, and I think it used growisofs instead of brasero [08:44] hobgoblin: yup, tati tried that earlier & it also came up with the wodim issue :( [08:44] :( [08:45] ok - so asa I see it at the moment - prove the hardware or upgrade or usb if possible [08:46] hmmm...laptop doesn't seem to be working...i selected start windows normally but nothing happened...it stayed on the error screen [08:49] Tried booting the rescue CD/partition? [08:50] long time since I used windows - will it burn in safe mode [08:50] By my experience, if normal mode doesn't boot, neither will safe mode ^^ [08:51] like I said .... long time :) last one I had was win2k :D [08:51] hmmmm...let me see [08:52] well I think if it was me then I would make sureI only had standard repos - ubuntu-dekstop reinstalled and go for upgrade [08:58] so.... [09:01] * tati asks is this a lost cause? =( [09:01] well we are not sure ;) it is hard to prove the hardware from here :) [09:02] tati: if you want to try an upgrade - are you connected by ethernet and not wireless? [09:03] yes [09:05] ok - first do this please and paste the outputs [09:05] ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d && cat /etc/apt/sources.list [09:05] paste that command into a terminal [09:05] ok [09:07] * tati heres the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/438219/ [09:13] thanks - no output from the first part then I assume [09:13] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [09:14] what do u mean no output from the first part? [09:15] the ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d [09:15] oh [09:16] run the update and upgrade command - when that's finished tell me [09:17] its done [09:20] now Alt+F2 and put this in the box update-manager --devel-release [09:21] then Check - it will check some stuff - keep going till it says Upgrade then click that and it will do it for you [09:21] last time to check this - are you connected with ethernet and not wireless [09:23] dodo i need to check the box that says run in terminal? also, i although i have a wireless router...this desktop is connected to the router with a ethernet cable.... [09:24]