[00:55] <fta> BUGabundo, maverick's broken
[00:56] <BUGabundo> great
[00:56] <BUGabundo> :)
[01:02] <fta> metacity explodes when i start an xterm
[01:02] <fta> openarena crashes
[01:02] <fta> evo is semi-broken
[01:03] <fta> my 1st reboot after the upgrade, i didn't pass the pink ubuntu logo just after the bios
[01:03] <fta> no hint of anything
[01:04] <fta> grrr, no ddebs
[01:10] <BUGabundo> wfm
[01:11] <fta> bug 584287
[01:48] <fta> crash is in pulseaudio
[01:48] <BUGabundo> eheh
[02:55] <bobby> Hey guys... I'm kind of having trouble installing FF 3.7a5pre...
[02:55] <bobby> I've extracted it to my home folder, but there is no make file in it, so I can't make it :(
[02:56] <bobby> Suggestions?
[07:45] <ddecator> micahg: btw, i'm going through some old bugs and i forgot to ask this a long time ago. is there a reason that -no-remote doesn't work, or is it still supposed to?
[07:46] <micahg> ddecator: wfm
[07:46] <micahg> ddecator: you have to use -P also if you're using the default profile
[07:48] <ddecator> micahg: i still get a popup saying that firefox is already running. what's the exact command you're using?
[07:48] <micahg> firefox -no-remote -P
[07:49] <ddecator> micahg: says i can't use the default profile because it is already in use...
[07:49] <micahg> ddecator: right, you can't use the same profile
[07:50] <ddecator> micahg: odd...so you can't use the same profile with -no-remote, yet somehow my dock manages to use two instances running on the same profile (probably not considered stable to do so?)
[07:51] <micahg> ddecator: your dock?
[07:51] <ddecator> micahg: yah, Docky. i can right-click the minefield icon and select to open a new window, and a new instance of minefield opens using the default profile
[07:52] <micahg> ddecator: I wonder how
[07:52] <ddecator> micahg: magic apparently...
[07:54] <ddecator> micahg: firefox -browser opens another window, maybe it uses that?
[07:54] <micahg> ddecator: so it's not another instance then
[07:55] <ddecator> micahg: so i guess the OP was trying to do the wrong thing. -browser just opens another window of the same instance then?
[08:48] <ddecator> did i just remove an addon without requiring a restart? o.o
[08:50] <micahg> ddecator: new addons manager?
[08:50] <ddecator> micahg: yah. it's really nice. now if only the other minor things that aren't working would get fixed. 3.7 fail to build i'm guessing?
[08:51] <micahg> ddecator: yep, should work tomorrow
[08:51] <ddecator> micahg: good to hear. and prism?
[08:51] <micahg> ddecator: prism broke?
[08:51] <ddecator> micahg: the gmail one isn't working for me
[08:51] <ddecator> XML Parsing Error
[08:51] <micahg> ddecator: prism compatible with 3.7?
[08:52] <ddecator> micahg: yah, the daily builds
[08:52] <ddecator> gmail and google calendar both have the same issue
[08:52] <micahg> ddecator: hmmm
[08:52] <ddecator> micahg: want me to pastebin the error?
[08:52] <micahg> ddecator: sure
[08:53] <ddecator> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438215/
[08:54] <micahg> ddecator: that's when you use the prism launcher?
[08:55] <ddecator> micahg: yah, the ones installed by prism-google-mail and prism-google-calendar
[08:55] <micahg> ddecator: do you have xulrunner-1.9.3 installed?
[08:56] <micahg> or xulrunner-1.9.2?
[08:56]  * micahg forgot it's not dependent on FF
[08:56] <ddecator> both
[08:56] <micahg> ddecator: can you launch with strace and see which xul it's using/
[08:56] <ddecator> micahg: sure, one sec
[08:59] <ddecator> micahg: xr 1.9.2.5pre
[09:01] <ddecator> looks like a bunch of .so files are not found
[09:03] <ddecator> micahg: it's looking for .so files in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.5pre/ that aren't in there. not sure if that's the cause of the issue or not though
[09:05] <micahg> ddecator: like what files?
[09:07] <ddecator> micahg: libnspr4.so, libplc4.so, libplds4.so, libsqlite3.so, libnssutil3.so, libsoftokn3.so, libnss3.so, libssl3.so, libsmime3.so
[09:23] <micahg> ddecator: can you pastebin the strace?  that seems weird
[09:24] <ddecator> micahg: sure. it's huge though. want a pastebin or want me to upload it to u1?
[09:24] <micahg> ddecator: either
[09:24] <micahg> ddecator: just show me the snippets
[09:25] <ddecator> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438225/
[09:25] <ddecator> let me know if you want more
[09:27] <micahg> ddecator: that's normal
[09:28] <ddecator> micahg: alright. want me to look through the rest?
[09:28] <micahg> ddecator: actually, looking at the xml again, it's an issue with prism
[09:29] <micahg> ddecator: I'll have to try the daily myself to see what the issue is
[09:29] <micahg> but not tonight
[09:29] <ddecator> sure thing, just let me know if you want any more info or for me to test something
[09:31] <micahg> ddecator: why did you replace sh with bash in songbird rules file?
[09:31] <ddecator> let me find it...
[09:32] <ddecator> there was something added to the command that needed it to be bash
[09:32] <micahg> ddecator: same command
[09:32] <micahg> ddecator: also you have 3 patches added to series, but the patches aren't in the merge request
[09:33] <ddecator> micahg: oh, i must have never run bzr add, i'll do that. and for w/e reason sh didn't work but bash did (if i remember correctly, it might have been something else)
[09:34] <micahg> ddecator: k, I'll have to test this later, also where did you get the copyright info?
[09:35] <micahg> ddecator: overall looks good though
[09:35] <ddecator> micahg: mostly from the sites for each part. songbird has a site that links to the copyright info for the different parts
[09:35] <ddecator> micahg: now that i think of it, there is one patch i want to look into more (might need to change it) so i'll try to look at it tomorrow, make sure the patches are added, then i'll push and request a new merge so the diff will be updated
[09:36] <micahg> ddecator: k, I think you can just update the branch you have
[09:36] <ddecator> micahg: ok, and i have no idea why i changed it to bash in that one spot...i was thinking of something that i had to make a patch for (i think)
[09:36] <micahg> ddecator: k, I have to go, ttyt
[09:36] <micahg> *later
[09:37] <ddecator> same, night
[16:33] <BUGabundo> micahg: https://f.bugabundo.net/2010-05-22#e12241
[16:33] <BUGabundo> :))
[16:43] <micahg> BUGabundo: what is that?
[16:43] <BUGabundo> my new pins
[16:43] <BUGabundo> https://f.bugabundo.net/2010-05-22#e12241
[17:20] <BUGabundo> LOL
[17:20] <BUGabundo> you can open sooo many tabs in chromium that it will stop painting pages
[17:23] <crimsun> unsurprising, really. It likely involves pixmap resource exhaustion.
[17:24] <BUGabundo> LOL I love chromium devs
[17:24] <BUGabundo> they closed an old bug of mine
[17:24] <BUGabundo> as it wasn't there issue
[17:24] <BUGabundo> and now its _fixed_
[17:25] <Daekdroom> BUGabundo, fixed by what?
[17:25] <BUGabundo> newer release?
[20:57] <fta> crimsun, here?
[20:58] <BUGabundo> if u see him, ping me
[20:58] <BUGabundo> got a weird bug in maverick
[20:58] <BUGabundo> mute on boot
[20:58] <crimsun> hi.
[20:59] <fta> crimsun, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/584393
[20:59] <fta> crimsun, crash in p-a when starting openarena
[20:59] <fta> crimsun, 100% reproducible (maverick)
[21:00] <fta> that's my 5th bug in less than 1 day running maverick :P
[21:01] <crimsun> neat, but I can't look right now, and I'm about to switch the entire PA branch in maverick.
[21:01] <crimsun> i.e., it's going from stable-queue to master
[21:01] <micahg> wow, we're over 87k bugs in Ubuntu :-/
[21:02] <BUGabundo> :(
[21:02]  * micahg thinks July will be Mozilla bug attack month :)
[21:03] <BUGabundo> crimsun: so I guess you have no mirror interess in my recent (<48h) bug where audio starts muted in maverick?
[21:04] <crimsun> BUGabundo: I don't understand your question.
[21:05] <BUGabundo> crimsun: erh, on boot, my audio is mutted.. started in the last two days of maverick updates
[21:05] <micahg> BUGabundo: I've had that for the last 2 Ubuntu releases
[21:06] <BUGabundo> not here
[21:06] <BUGabundo> audio was 100%
[21:06] <BUGabundo> still is
[21:06] <BUGabundo> other then the mute  just now
[21:07] <crimsun> BUGabundo: pastebin amixer, please
[21:07] <BUGabundo> crimsun:  amixer | pastebinit  http://paste.ubuntu.com/438468/
[21:07] <crimsun> we really need to kill the alsa-utils initscript fudgery. It causes all sorts of problems like this.
[21:07] <BUGabundo> don't worry too much, if you are pushing a new branch
[21:08] <BUGabundo> we have pleanty of time till alpha2
[21:08] <BUGabundo> micahg: audio works great for me, cause I nag crimsun 4 or 5 times per cycle... so it is usually pretty rock solid for me
[21:09] <crimsun> does 'sudo alsactl init' help?
[21:09] <micahg> BUGabundo: aside from starting muted, it's been great for me the last 2 releases
[21:09] <BUGabundo> crimsun: what will that do? cause unmutting makes it fine, till next boot
[21:09] <BUGabundo> Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC883" "HDA:10ec0883,10438284,00100002 HDA:15433155,15433c55,00100700" "0x1043" "0x8284"
[21:09] <BUGabundo> Hardware is initialized using a guess method
[21:10] <crimsun> BUGabundo: init is what we should be using instead of 'restore'
[21:10] <BUGabundo> ah
[21:11] <BUGabundo> so I guess "Unknown" aint great
[21:13] <crimsun> quite the contrary. "Unknown" means there isn't an explicit PCI SSID match saying "there's a mixer control for this odd piece of hardware that needs to be set"
[21:13] <crimsun> the aim is to reduce/eliminate the number of quirks that need to go into the init db, hence the objective is to have everything be "Unknown"
[21:14] <fta> crimsun, (me too, sound muted after a reboot)
[21:15] <fta> crimsun, anything i can try (a ppa maybe) to put me out of my misery?
[21:19] <crimsun> hmm.
[21:19] <BUGabundo> fta: LOLOL
[21:19] <BUGabundo> its NOT that critical
[21:19] <BUGabundo> come on!
[21:20] <fta> BUGabundo, it is, for my productivity :) no frag, no chromium
[21:20] <crimsun> there is an openal-soft commit that's rather interesting. (And, why wasn't it 1.12.854?!)
[21:20] <crimsun> wasn't it in *
[21:22] <BUGabundo> frag?
[21:22] <BUGabundo> ohh you meant the bug in the game
[21:23] <BUGabundo> not the one mutted on boot
[21:23] <BUGabundo> heeheh
[21:24] <fta> BUGabundo, no, frag, as in fps games
[21:26] <BUGabundo> I got it
[21:26] <BUGabundo> after I post
[21:27] <fta> 2 new bugs in evolution (incl a crasher
[21:27] <fta> )
[21:28] <fta> so 3 crashers (metacity, evolution and o-a/p-a)
[21:29] <BUGabundo> totem is dead
[21:29] <BUGabundo> cheese too
[21:33] <fta> i wonder if ubuntu has a source code search engine.. would be helpful
[21:33] <BUGabundo> google?
[21:37] <fta> yep, but it's much wider than ubuntu
[21:38] <BUGabundo> file an wishbug in LP?
[21:40] <crimsun> I generally use "some terms site:.launchpad.net"
[21:41] <crimsun> unfortunately that doesn't really DTRT :(
[21:42] <fta> i was looking for meta_frame_style_draw_with_style (which package provides it)
[21:43] <fta> google codesearch found it only in mutter
[21:43] <fta> which i don't have installed
[21:43] <fta> weird
[23:22] <fta> BUGabundo, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/too-many-window-controls.png
[23:22] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[23:22] <fta> do you see that too?
[23:24] <BUGabundo> no
[23:25] <BUGabundo> not even with system bars enabled
[23:25] <BUGabundo> but I've moved controls to the right
[23:27] <fta> maverick?
[23:33] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:33] <BUGabundo> of course
[23:33] <BUGabundo> don't even know why you ask :)
[23:35] <fta> you use debian too
[23:37] <BUGabundo> yes, at work
[23:42] <fta> oh funny, it's gone
[23:44] <BUGabundo> have I told you how much I love to use TAB in Google Chromium for it to do search inside a site? AWESOME
[23:45] <fta> ??
[23:46] <BUGabundo> you know
[23:46] <BUGabundo> in omnibar
[23:46] <BUGabundo> you start typing a URL, then tab, and it swiches to search
[23:51] <fta> doesn't work here