[00:00] <zyrkan_> pfifo, k. I was just looking to see if there was any live support
[00:00] <Monotoko> Johnny_101, im on a differant PC
[00:00] <pfifo> zyrkan_, I bet #gimp could help tremendously
[00:00] <Beyecixramd> unop: who cares? it's UNIX... false or true... it's UNIX, for god's sake
[00:00] <avi_> Beyecixramd: well okay then. so is there any reason at all I shouldn't go ahead and dualboot my iMac?
[00:00] <zyrkan_> pfifo, thanks
[00:00] <Barridus> how do i start crond and then set it so it always starts?
[00:01] <Beyecixramd> avi_: hmmm... maybe there might be some software you might miss... apart from that... no, i highly encourage you to install it, in fact... it is an Intel Mac?
[00:01] <schlaftier> avi_: The installation is not totally straightforward, but I'd give it a try if you are not satisfied with OS X
[00:01] <unop> Beyecixramd, well, I disagree .. so I care
[00:01] <eye-zak> Monotoko: not sure what to do, afaik that was the necessary procedure, assuming i got the iptables commands correct
[00:01] <AnxiousNut> how can i adjust laptop's screen colors, the colors differs from my desktop's!
[00:01] <Beyecixramd> unop: :) so is Linux a true UNIX?
[00:01] <avi_> Beyecixramd: Yup. 2008 24'' imac.
[00:01] <Monotoko> eye-zak, it works! itl ping by IP but not by domain
[00:01] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm just curious, actually.
[00:02] <Johnny_101> Monotoko : http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/protocolsdhcp/g/bldef_apipa.htm
[00:02] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: unix-like, not true UNIX though.
[00:02] <unop> Beyecixramd, off course not. no one's implying that.
[00:02] <Beyecixramd> avi_: go ahead then. Good thing about Macs is that their software is very uniform, so you will have lots of chances of getting solutions to your problems with other mates using Ubuntu on their Macs
[00:02] <eye-zak> Monotoko: ahh, you need to add dns entries to your non-wifi computer (use 208.67.222.222 =opendns)
[00:02] <schlaftier> avi_: Make backups and go dual-boot :)
[00:02] <Beyecixramd> unop: just asking, what about Minix?
[00:02] <sean___> what channels are good here
[00:02] <MACscr> ok, i like how in putty on windows i could simply click on highlighted text in ssh and it would paste it toe the command line. Any possible way to do that in terminal? Im lazy and dont like to copy and paste all the time =P
[00:02] <myrl> myrl.selfip.com
[00:02] <schlaftier> avi_: Keep an internet connection on another computer in case you run into trouble...!
[00:03] <fluffy_> MACscr: xterm does that by default iirc
[00:03] <Monotoko> eye-zak, ahhh i see, can i make the connection permenant first though?
[00:03] <avi_> Beyecixramd: That's great. Actually, I've been triple booting for about 4 months now. Been loving it. Just wanted to put my paranoia about the CPU thing aside. Cheers for the help mate!
[00:03]  * Monotoko does not want to lose the connection hes been trying to get to work for days
[00:03] <avi_> schlaftier: Actually, I've been triple booting for about 4 months now. Been loving it. Just wanted to put my paranoia about the CPU thing aside. Cheers for the help mate!
[00:03] <unop> Beyecixramd, that's a warped attempt at being unix-like :)
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: is the 3rd OS Windows?
[00:04] <Beyecixramd> no prob, avi_ :) i also was a little nervous about Linux the first time, expecting everything to work and such, it's quite common
[00:04] <eye-zak> Monotoko: hopefully... to make the sysctl permenant edit /etc/sysctl.conf and uncomment net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[00:04] <zcat[1]> minix, lol..
[00:04] <Beyecixramd> lol unop
[00:04] <avi_> schlaftier: I did OSX then bootcamp win7, then rEFIt, then Ubuntu
[00:04] <Mixxit> onetinman: think i am sorted now buddy, installed jockey-gtk and have a hardware and drivers menu in my gnome system panel now - it told me i'm not using any drivers and is doing it's thing so fingers crossed!
[00:04] <eye-zak> Monotoko: then you need to save your iptables setup, Does anyone know the best procedure for this?
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: just curious, did you get all the hardware running in Ubuntu?
[00:04] <avi_> Beyecixramd: Ditto. But it's worth it!!
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: I have only rEFIt+Ubuntu
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> unop: what about Mac OS X, BSD, and Linux. are they POSIX?
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> unop: or only true UNIXes are POSIX?
[00:05] <pfifo> eye-zak, I use a shell script to setup iptables, but there is a built in system for doing it as i remember, read the manual for iptables for more info
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> avi_: one last thing. Don't ever dare to remove Mac OS X
[00:05] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: doesn't have to be UNIX to be POSIX compliant
[00:06] <Beyecixramd> avi_: keep at least the minium space for Mac OS X in order to get firmware updates
[00:06] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo there is a known bug with network-manager and iptables
[00:06] <gartral> eye-zak: alright, since pulse is broken, and the pulse-docs are of absolutly no help. what alternatives do i have for what i want to do?
[00:06] <Beyecixramd> fluffy_: then they are?
[00:06] <avi_> schlaftier: I've been trying all of the versions, 8.04-10.04. All of them failed mostly except for 10.04, which was absolutely phenominal. the free graphics drivers are perfect (fgrlx (ati drivers)) are UBER messed up on ubuntu for my box, there's three launch pad posts for it because the first two got full lol. So, yeah, everything but the remote, which i'm just too lazy to fix.
[00:06] <eye-zak> Monotoko: run iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules to save your config
[00:07] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: generally if they have the usual core utils -- ls, cp, mv, etc -- its a fairly good bet it's POSIX
[00:07] <avi_> Beyecixramd: I don't plan on it, but what firmware updates? I mean, its 2 years old already, do you really think there will be a firmware update>
[00:07] <schlaftier> avi_: Remote was easy for me (recognised out of the box, I just had to write scripts for the key actions). What about screen brightness?
[00:07] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on that page there is info on how to edit /etc/network/interfaces to apply these rules automatically
[00:07] <Monotoko> eye-zak, i get Permission denied when running it as sudo??
[00:07] <Johnny_101> michelle_ : Any luck?
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> avi_: oh... in that case... well.... just don't do it. You might need it at some point, and it does not take a lot of space, unlike Windows :D
[00:08] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm the reverse, LIRC recognizes it, but i just don't know how to configure the custom keys lol
[00:08] <unop> Beyecixramd, POSIX is (or has become) just a reference standard -- and different OSes/Vendors adhere to it in different degrees - even Microsoft windows to some degree. But yea, those examples fully support the POSIX standards.
[00:08] <eye-zak> Monotoko: run sudo iptable-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.rules
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> unop: afaik, Windows Vista / 7 has a POSIX subsystem, to run utilities designed for POSIX OSes
[00:08] <Monotoko> eye-zak, completed, thank you :)
[00:08] <avi_> eye-zak: Brightness was a nonissue. Oh, come to think of it, sound is awful with the inbuilt speakers.. Its the same in windows. Apple just wrote crap drivers.. External speakers are 100%.
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> unop: it's like a compatibility layer for POSIX (like Wine)
[00:09] <eye-zak> Monotoko: your welcome
[00:09] <avi_> Beyecixramd: tell me about it, windows is down to like 5GB and Ubuntu has like 50GB left.. 55GB partitions each lol
[00:09] <Beyecixramd> avi_: wow... that's.... im speechless...
[00:10] <compaq> Guys I love Ubuntu, I had lots of fun, but I regret to say, I have reverted to Debian.  Why you ask?  Well, Ubuntu wouldn't support compiz on my intel graphics card(it was blacklisted) but on debian it was not.
[00:10] <Chaorain> I'm trying to follow this but the second step gives me an error http://www.thoughtspark.org/node/10
[00:10] <Chaorain> bash: !/bin/bash": event not found
[00:10] <Beyecixramd> compaq: use try Fedora, or unblacklist it :)
[00:10] <schlaftier> avi_: I have a very simple .lircrc calling irexec to control audio players and slideshows. If you are interested, I can give you a hand with that. For brightness, I had to use an ugly hack, though :)
[00:10] <Chaorain> Can someone tell me what this means?
[00:10] <soreau> compaq: That's probably because debian is using an older version of the intel driver
[00:10] <pfifo> compaq, Im sure you can install manually
[00:10] <avi_> schlaftier: If you don't mind, could you perhaps point me in the right direc... excellent!!
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> compaq: did you ever have a look at this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes
[00:11] <unop> Beyecixramd, well, yea, it supports some of the POSIX base definitions and the system interfaces, so applications can take advantage of the POSIX API - but that's about it
[00:11] <pdtpatrick> @Chaorain -- u forgot to put the # infront of the !
[00:12] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm interested. Brightness was not an issue on any of the versions from hardy>lucid. ALl I need is for it to control rhythmbox, and maybe totem.. eye of gnome (or whatever the default imageviewer would be nice tho lol). How can I install it ?
[00:12] <greezmunkey> holy smokes, disabling ipv6 makes this thing rock :)
[00:12] <Opettaja> Anyone know if i need to do anything special to get ushare to work with an external hard drive?
[00:12] <unop> greezmunkey, only until the IPv4 space runs out -- then you're leaving yourself disadvantaged :)
[00:12] <compaq> onetinsoldier, oh, I never found that one
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> compaq: roger
[00:13] <sean___> greetings ubuntu noobs
[00:13] <compaq> Beyecixramd, I couldn't unblacklist it, I even tried karmic cause it gives you the option to run some command that allows you to use blacklisted video cards, but it still didn't run
[00:13] <schlaftier> avi_: There are plugins for at least Rhythmbox, but I prefer to just use irexec which can run any program upon a remote control key press. So make sure you have that installed and running
[00:13] <greezmunkey> unop: I think I have a while befor I have to worry about that, just don't go assigning an IP address to your toaster, o.k :)
[00:13] <Beyecixramd> compaq: weird...
[00:14] <avi_> schlaftier: Hold on, i'm in OSX now. can you wait 1.5 minutes for me to reboot to ubuntu?
[00:14] <schlaftier> avi_: sure
[00:14] <sean___> can you install ubuntu on a mac
[00:14] <gartral> i got a realtek HDA audio card, multiple spreakers and a headphone jack. how do i route stero audio through something OTHER that the green jack in the back of my computer
[00:14] <sean___> wait no
[00:14] <schlaftier> sean___: yes you can
[00:14] <gartral> sean___: depends on if it's a ppc mac or intel mac
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: hi. you'r internet bandwith a lot faster or something with ipv6 disabled?
[00:14] <sean___> can you run ubuntu livecd on a mac?
[00:15] <Chaorain> pdtpatrick: I tried it again and it had the # but same error
[00:15] <gartral> schlaftier: ubuntu no longer officialy supports ppc macs
[00:15] <Flannel> !ppc
[00:15] <gartral> sean___: as long as it's an intel mac
[00:15] <eye-zak> gartral: two sets of stereo speakers, or something else ?
[00:15] <Johnny_101> sean___ : why don't you give a try..its not going to harm anything..!
[00:15] <schlaftier> gartral: as time goes by :(
[00:15] <fluffy_> if you find yourself on a PPC mac, debian has a PPC port.
[00:15] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: yeah, I think so - I just started testing. Bandwidth may be about the same, but the "responsiveness" has improved considerably.
[00:15] <sean___> how do you boot into the livecd
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: ahh, roger
[00:15] <gbear14275> vlt: I apologize for disappearing... are you still lurking?
[00:16] <vlt> !ask | gbear14275
[00:16] <gartral> eye-zak: stero speakers all over my house.. i want the same audio accross all 6 sets. and my headphones.. though i cant get any headway cause pulse is a confusing, unstable, unintuitive system
[00:16] <corin_> "It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by others. This private key will be ignored."
[00:16] <corin_> ^ Is there any way to disable that message so that keys with bad permissions work fine?
[00:17] <Flannel> sean___: Depending on which mac you've got, you need to push something during boot (with the CD in), delete, f10, etc
[00:17] <Johnny_101> sean___ : Live CD..no need to install on the HDD.
[00:17] <gartral> sean___: put the cd in the drive and reboot while holding command+c
[00:17] <fluffy_> Flannel: that would be the c key :)
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> anyone need help getting any mouse x-cursor theme installed from a .tar.gz? i can help...  :-)
[00:17] <eye-zak> gartral: 6 sets, how many stereo-out pairs (not including headphones) do you want
[00:17] <pokeh> Okay, I'm back! Thanks for waiting mate.
[00:17] <gartral> eye-zak: 7
[00:17] <gartral> oh, 6
[00:18] <sean___> dude ubuntu doesnt work well with mac
[00:18] <gartral> someone ban the mac troll
[00:18] <pokeh> sean___: works fantastic with my mac lol
[00:18] <macman_> lol
[00:18] <gartral> pokeh: ignore sean___ he's being a troll
[00:18] <eye-zak> gartral: i'm confused, u have a sound card with 14 stereo outputs ?
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i dropped connection. can you tell me how disabling ipv6 made a difference and which line in /etc/default/grub did you add it to?
[00:19] <pokeh> gartral: Are we discouraged from feeding them :P
[00:19] <vlt> gartral: (Haven't read your initial question but) you could just use a decent audio mixer and wire your speakers.
[00:19] <pokeh> schlaftier: Hey!
[00:20] <schlaftier> pokeh: hey, are you the one with the Apple Remote?
[00:20] <eye-zak> gartral: pulseaudio can do stereo-duplex from SoundPreferences->Hardware tab (for more than duplex you need to edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf for yourself)
[00:20] <pokeh> schlaftier: Ah, i forgot I had different names. Yup, that's me!
[00:20] <Monotoko> eye-zak, sorry what does my gateway want to be again?
[00:21] <Monotoko> (on the non-wifi)
[00:21] <michelle_> how do i get permission to access dvdrom i do not have /etc/fstab/ file
[00:21] <gartral> eye-zak: no, it has 6 audio routes that arent locked to any state (each one is technically a quadraphonic passthrough) in windows, all i have to do is click a toggle and the input selected becomes an output. same with the other way. all i want is 6 outputs, and one input. all outputs following the SAME stero stream
[00:21] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on the non-wifi pc, your gateway is the ip of the wifi pc on the private network, 192.168.2.1
[00:21] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: In testing, especially mail, web browsing, like establishing new connections goes noticably quicker - throughput is about the same, but connections are indeed snappier. in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="ipv6.disable=1"
[00:21] <unop> bastid_raZor, Dual-stack hosts must attempt connectivity over IPv6 before falling back on IPv6. So when you browse a website for example, an attempt is made to lookup the domain name for IPv6 first - and since most sites and carriers don't support it, that can mean a slowdown for you, the end-user.
[00:21] <schlaftier> pokeh: first thing you should do is run "irw" in the terminal and press the keys on your remote to find the key names, they might be different
[00:21] <Monotoko> eye-zak, thank you again :) il add it to the interfaces file on the PC so it sticks...
[00:22] <gartral> vlt: that would work if i had money for a mixer, and the extra wires
[00:22] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, it recognizes them!
[00:22] <eye-zak> gartral: ok, i haven't played with a card like that, but pulseaudio's daemon.conf can set the number of channels, and do channel mapping/duplication but i can't tell you exactly what to put in there
[00:22] <monjaraz> hi every
[00:22] <adam2508> whats up guys
[00:22] <pokeh> schlaftier: Pretty standard, FORWARD, ACTION, MENU, PLAY
[00:23] <sean___> whats up adam
[00:23] <pokeh> schlaftier: I have the newer aluminum one.
[00:23] <gartral> eye-zak: right.. what _alternatives_ do i have that offer a user-intuitive interface
[00:23] <eye-zak> gartral: the SoundPreferences way has ubuntu pre-made setups that are common, your's is uncommon so unfortunately it's not there yet
[00:23] <schlaftier> pokeh: different from mine so you will have to replace the button names but you get the idea :)
[00:23] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: I already disabled ipv6 in firefox, but noticed that it was always present for other processes. I decided to put the kabosh on it.
[00:23] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: unop good information. i actually use dnsmasq to cache dns' and i noticed that has given a faster response to previously visited sites.
[00:23] <adam2508> its been a while since i havent been in a irc
[00:23] <eye-zak> gartral: there really is no GUI for this, pulseaudio is pre 1.0 unfortunately
[00:23] <schlaftier> pokeh: now let's do a quick example: volume control
[00:24] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: absolutely, having a caching nameserver present helps.
[00:24] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i am going to try your method as well. dinner time then i'll get back to you on my results.
[00:24] <schlaftier> pokeh: edit the file .lircrc in your home directory and put this into it: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FmQ8x15Y
[00:24] <gartral> eye-zak: what ALTERNATIVES do i have to pulseaudio then!
[00:24] <sean___> alsa
[00:25] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT?
[00:25] <eye-zak> gartral: none, unfortunately, alsa is just removing pulseaudio
[00:25] <schlaftier> pokeh: (replace the button names if necessary)
[00:25] <elvis45261> ubuntu is less nice than gentoo
[00:25] <sean___> sure is
[00:25] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: just one thing, I used the "start up manager" program to edit grub2 - it put the same commands into two differant lines in /etc/default/grub - I asked in here for help, than decided on the edit I pasted here. It works well
[00:25] <schlaftier> pokeh: save the file, then run "irexec -d" in the terminal and you should be able to adjust volume with the remote
[00:25] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : why :)
[00:25] <Chaorain> hey for some reason my comp always start with Compiz. How can I change this to Metacity?
[00:26] <pfifo> !offtopic > elvis
[00:26] <gartral> eye-zak: what your telling me is: the only sound core in linux is pulse audio. how is that possible in an opensource environment
[00:26] <pfifo> !offtopic > elvis45261
[00:26] <pokeh> schlaftier: I don't see a .lircrc file in my home directory
[00:26] <soreau> Chaorain: sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects>none
[00:26] <eye-zak> gartral: there is alsa, oss(not supported in ubuntu), pulseaudio and jack
[00:26] <elvis45261> eye-zak: Is oss good ?
[00:26] <sean___> which is the best
[00:26] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: i'm trying to get the graphics card to work. is the graphics switching capabilities supported?
[00:26] <schlaftier> pokeh: It's probably hidden or not yet there, you might need to create it
[00:27] <Chaorain> soreau: thanks
[00:27] <eye-zak> elvis45261: oss has been redone since the old (read bad) version and it works, as much as alsa works
[00:27] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport.
[00:28] <Guest6820> Hi, does any one know hot  figure out what were the last packages updated
[00:28] <allterspace> Does anyone know how to get rid of the default gnome keyring login at startup on 10.04?
[00:29] <R0x0Rz> Barbiie :$
[00:29] <Barbiie> R0x0Rz $:
[00:29] <pfifo> allterspace, i think if you set the keyring password as blank it will skip it
[00:29] <macman_> didn't work
[00:29] <eye-zak> alterspace: do you want automatic kering unlock, or no keyring unlock
[00:29] <pcgeek32147> how do i look up my chipset
[00:29] <pokeh> schlaftier: Fantastic! It's working! However, it doesn't change show that nice osd-notify bubble when it changes the sound.
[00:29] <gartral> eye-zak: and which of those would allow me to do what i want? im very sick and tired of hitting walls in ubuntu, an "open environment" that just arent there in windows. why is it impossible to reach an end result in ubuntu that takes less that 5 minutes in windows
[00:29] <allterspace> pfifo i dont know how to get there to do it can you help?\
[00:30] <schlaftier> pokeh: That's odd, it does for me. That can be easily fixed though ;)
[00:30] <pokeh>  schlaftier: Cool!! How? :D
[00:30] <eye-zak> gartral: i can't speak to overarching questions, pulse will do it but if you can't read the wiki and edit a config file than it's not gonna happen for you
[00:30] <limikael> hello
[00:30] <Johnny_101> pcgeek32147 :  hwinfo
[00:30] <Andorin> What are the odds that a generic USB flash drive with a standard file system will fail to mount?
[00:30] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: yeah, that doesn't really help
[00:30] <topo_> HI, does anyone know how to tell what were the last packages updated???
[00:31] <Andorin> Let me rephrase that.
[00:31] <limikael> how can I change what permissions usb drives get mounted with (fat32)
[00:31] <Andorin> What are the odds that a generic USB flash drive with a standard file system will fail to mount when you plug it in?
[00:31] <gartral> eye-zak: ive been reading the wiki. i dont see squat about routing monitors.
[00:31] <sean___> small
[00:31] <gartral> !troll | sean___
[00:31] <pfifo> allterspace, i havent used 10.04 yet so i cant be too specific, but in the preferences for the keyring you should find options relatedc to what your looking todo
[00:31] <bazhang> gartral, what was that for
[00:32] <eye-zak> gartral: i'm not sure exactly where to look, 'om glancing at the wiki now
[00:32] <sean___> !troll | gartral
[00:32] <sean___> haha owned.
[00:32] <Andorin> ...
[00:32] <fluffy_> Andorin: which fs?
[00:32] <bazhang> sean___,  and gartral stop it now
[00:32] <schlaftier> pokeh: Actually, it's not so easy, but it can be achieved using "notify-send". Try in the terminal for a quick test: notify-send Volume -i notification-audio-volume-high -h int:value:80 -h string:synchronous:
[00:33] <gartral> bazhang: sean___ started by asking the question "does ubuntu work on mac" 3 times and getting an answer too each
[00:33] <Andorin> fluffy_: Wish I could tell you. My idiot friend is complaining about Ubuntu, saying it wouldn't mount his flash drive. I don't believe he wants the problem solved; I just wonder whether he's BSing me. But apparently the drive works in Windows, so I'd guess FAT or ntfs.
[00:33] <allterspace> yah they removed keyring from preferences thanks any ways.
[00:33] <jedc> Hi, I just installed lucid and my laptop speakers don't mute when I plug in my head-phones. I checked alsamixer but it only shows master and pcm controls. Any ideas?
[00:33] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT?
[00:33] <schlaftier> pokeh: if that shows a bubble, you have the tools you need
[00:34] <bazhang> jmcantrell, please ask a more specific question if you wish help
[00:34] <Bigshot> how to know my computers name?
[00:34] <Bigshot> for synergy?
[00:34] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT and know how to get the nvidia card to work?
[00:35] <fluffy_> Andorin: hmm. if it's not automounting on a default ubuntu setup -- and I'm assuming he's coming from Windows -- then something's probably messed with the filesystem. Has he tried mounting it manually? (as in mount -t vfat /dev/sdaX /media/X)
[00:35] <bazhang> jmcantrell, check system administration hardware drivers
[00:35] <schlaftier> pokeh: you could then use a script like this http://pastebin.com/zcmMc8i8 and bind the keys to that instead of directly calling amixer
[00:35] <fluffy_> Bigshot: hostname (in terminal)
[00:35] <PurpleJesus> since I upgraded to 10.4 my mouse likes to freeze.  doing a modprobe -r psmouse then a modprobe psmouse fixes it 80% of the time.  Is there a permanent fix?
[00:35] <Andorin> fluffy_: He hasn't, he's a noob to Ubuntu. But he's booting into it now.
[00:35] <bread> tell him to install gnome-mount for his flash drive problems
[00:35] <sabat> I am attempting to setup a JBOD raid on 4 500gb hd's. I installed lvm2, but not really sure how to begin and not finding any howto that is simple, anyone able to point me or tell me how to get this going?
[00:35] <topo_> Anyone knows how to enable file sharing with xp in Lucid lynx?
[00:35] <jmcantrell> bazhang: i've installed the recommended proprietary drivers, but it just boots to black.
[00:36] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: after using start-up manager.. which lines did it edit? or does start-up manager even edit but apply them from somewhere else?
[00:36] <bazhang> jmcantrell, how many choices are there
[00:36] <fluffy_> topo_: look into samba (google is your friend)
[00:36] <eye-zak> topo_: properties on your folder, then sharing
[00:36] <jmcantrell> bazhang: i don't know anymore. i can't boot
[00:36] <schlaftier> pokeh: or, maybe easier, use "xte" to fake the keyboard volume keys (they should trigger the notification bubble)
[00:36] <bazhang> jmcantrell, boot in low graphics mode and check
[00:36] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yup, i had to install libnotify-bin, but it works!
[00:36] <schlaftier> pokeh: it's now more a matter of shell scripting
[00:37] <jmcantrell> bazhang: how do i do that?
[00:37] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Visual Effects is set to which mode?
[00:37] <pokeh> schlaftier: So, how do reccomend I proceed?
[00:37] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: the default
[00:37] <bazhang> jmcantrell, what version of ubuntu? try holding shift key as it starts up and enter recovery mode
[00:38] <topo_> fluffy_: yeah i looked, maybe i should be more specific. when i click in all networks the only machine that shows is my ubuntu machine
[00:38] <jmcantrell> bazhang: tried that. it never goes to grub menu
[00:38] <schlaftier> pokeh: about the notification bubbles or other buttons?
[00:38] <fluffy_> topo_: is it a new xp install?
[00:38] <pokeh> schlaftier: Both :D
[00:38] <bazhang> jmcantrell, is this a dual boot
[00:38] <pokeh> schlaftier: I think that using the xte thing will be best, because I don't use those volume button keys for anything else.
[00:39] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Try  normal ; with auto load driver..
[00:39] <pokeh> schlaftier: Plus ubuntu recognises them.
[00:39] <schlaftier> pokeh: Do they trigger the notification bubbles?
[00:39] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yes.
[00:39] <Bigshot> hello feckers :))
[00:39] <Bigshot> oops
[00:39] <jedc> My laptop speakers won't mute when headphones are plugged in and I can't find controls to mute them manually without also muting the headphones. This is on a fresh 10.04 install?
[00:39] <Bigshot> nvm
[00:39] <topo_> nope its the same configuration i had, when i was running 9.04 and every thing worked
[00:39] <skypce> hi i am looking for a easy guide to compile kernel in ubuntu 10.04 ? thank s
[00:39] <acicula> !kernel
[00:39] <jmcantrell> bazhang: no dual boot
[00:39] <compaq> Actually, the intel drivers do not work so good with compiz.  Its unusable on debian too
[00:39] <bazhang> !compile > skypce
[00:39] <gartral> how do i split a command from the terminal it orginated from and make it a daemon?
[00:40] <sabat> I am attempting to setup a JBOD raid on 4 500gb hd's. I installed lvm2, but not really sure how to begin and not finding any howto that is simple, anyone able to point me or tell me how to get this going?
[00:40] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: it is on normal, but i can't boot anyway
[00:40] <topo_> fluffy_:nope its the same configuration i had, when i was running 9.04 and every thing worked
[00:40] <skypce> thank you
[00:40] <nighmi> evening, I've got a problem with some applications using a GtkFileChooser, e.g. gpicview, on a Ubuntu 64bit system - and I've been discussing this in the gtk+ IRC channel for a couple of hours now, and I'd like to know whether this is reproducable on a Ubuntu 64bit system: When I open gpicview and clicke the file-open-button, I click my home folder (in the "places" thingy) in the upcoming dialog, then I single-click the topmost directory in my h
[00:40] <nighmi> ome folder and then I start typing, e.g "abc" in order to quickly get to directory "abcdef" and I close the dialog (either by opening a file or by canceling), then I will press a random key while the main window is active, the program will crash with a segfault
[00:40] <schlaftier> pokeh: this should do the trick: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i too agree that the speed up is very noticable.
[00:40] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : After Normal ; you can't boot into the login screen!
[00:41] <fluffy_> topo_: does /var/log/samba/samba.log suggest any problems?
[00:41] <vlt> sabat: I'd favor using md instead of lvm for raid
[00:41] <schlaftier> pokeh: put this into the .lircrc (the other is XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[00:41] <sabat> vlt: I don
[00:41] <sabat> vlt: I don't know the difference, and really don't care too much what I use, I don't need redundancy or speed, just a large disk.
[00:42] <topo_> fluffy_: how do i check that?
[00:42] <gogeta> hey guys will the live cd work with 192 mb of ram
[00:42] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: i can't boot to login screen, correct, but i don't think it has anything to do with my graphics setting
[00:42] <schlaftier> pokeh: you probably have to restart irexec after editing the .lircrc (and at some point you should add it to your session startup items)
[00:42] <limikael> how can I change what dmask a usb disk gets mounted with?
[00:42] <Andorin> fluffy_: He's on Ubuntu, I'm having him run a manual mounting
[00:42] <pokeh> schlaftier: So where exactly do i put that in the lircrc file?
[00:42] <jjnorth> Wondering if anyone here has experience fixing GRUB.
[00:42] <vlt> sabat: Just a large "disk" aka block device? Then go for lvm
[00:42] <fluffy_> topo_: open up your /var/log/samba/samba.log in something like gedit
[00:42] <ikonia> just ask the real question
[00:42] <vlt> sabat: It's easy
[00:42] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: heh, I jsut caught that, great :)
[00:42] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Yes ; its the graphics..
[00:42] <Andorin> !grub | jjnorth
[00:42] <schlaftier> pokeh: in the 'config =' line instead of 'amixer...' you put: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:42] <jmcantrell> anyone know how to get the nvidia driver to work with the g210m?
[00:43] <sabat> vlt: ya, I have 4 hdd's, and just want one big disk
[00:43] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: yeah, but it has nothing to do with compiz. it doesn't even get that far
[00:43] <jjnorth> !grub2
[00:43] <zyrkan_> leave
[00:43] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : what the Resolution you set?
[00:43] <Spunkym3nkey> Hello, when I try to make a copy of one of my cds I get this error on Brasero --> Please install the following manually and try again:
[00:43] <Spunkym3nkey> libdvdcss.so.2 (library).
[00:43] <vlt> sabat: You need to create physical volumes (PV) as source devices for your volume group (VG). Then you can create as many logical volumes (LV) in one VG as you like.
[00:44] <Barridus> apparently crond is not starting, how do i make it so it does
[00:44] <eye-zak> Spunkym3nkey: have you installed dvdcss from the medibuntu repository ?
[00:44] <topo_> fluffy_: the file shows up empty
[00:44] <fluffy_> Spunkym3nkey: libdvdcss is used to decrypt DVDs
[00:44] <vlt> sabat: Do you want to boot from that device or just use it as additional storage?
[00:44] <Andorin> fluffy_: I don't know how to do a manual mounting. >_< You gave me a command, and I told him to mount it to /media/flashdrive, but he gets a response saying the mount point does not exist.
[00:45] <Spunkym3nkey> I got libdvdcss installed with media
[00:45] <Flannel> sabat: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm/  Explains (with pictures!) the basics of LVM (ignore the commands about setting up and stuff, that isn't relevant, but the overview is)
[00:45] <fluffy_> Andorin: the mountpoint has to be a directory that already exists.
[00:45] <Spunkym3nkey> should i restart?
[00:45] <michelle_> how can i manually find and install proper drivers for my dvd
[00:45] <michelle_> how do i get permission to access dvdrom i do not have /etc/fstab/ file
[00:45] <sabat> I have a 250gb drive as my main drive.
[00:45] <cryptic0> on my friend's dell inspiron E1505 laptop, the wireless is not working under ubuntu 9.04.  what gives?
[00:45] <jjnorth> Andorin: Thanks... so far, I've been jammed up with Grub2 not storing configs after an upgrade from Karmic to Lucid.
[00:45] <fluffy_> topo_: my hunch is that samba isn't started
[00:45] <eye-zak> Spunkym3nkey: no need
[00:45] <jjnorth> Andorin: Will see what happens.
[00:45] <vlt> !who | sabat
[00:45] <sean___> cryptic0: why
[00:45] <tux414> I have a gamepad this model GPTL-00A and it isn't working on Ubuntu 10.04.
[00:45] <gbear14275> anyone want to do me a favor and try and ssh into 74.106.4.22.  It's my IP and I just want to make sure ssh is correctly refusing everything but keyed connections
[00:46] <sean___> !tab
[00:46] <vlt> sabat: So just storage, right?
[00:46] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: time to add it to my other boxes now.
[00:46] <topo_> fluffy_: I do get a response if I run smbtree but it only shows the local shares
[00:46] <acicula> gbear14275, you can test that by moving your private key out of .ssh, it will deafult back to password then
[00:46] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: yup, me too.
[00:46] <eye-zak> gbear14275: i got nothin
[00:46] <cryptic0> sean___: what do you mean?
[00:46] <Spunkym3nkey> fluffy_, should I be using vdr-plugin-dvd for playback?
[00:46] <gbear14275> acicula: I've done that... was just looking for a double check.  eye-zak:  Thanks
[00:46] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, i did irexec -d, but it's not applying the changes. I confirmed this by erasing the contents of lircrc, and then doing -d, but it still modifies the volume as before..
[00:46] <sean___> cryptic0: why doesnt it work
[00:47] <cryptic0> thats what I am asking :D.
[00:47] <schlaftier> pokeh: killall irexec && irexec -d
[00:47] <Andorin> fluffy_: Think it might be an ntfs file system, because he got an error.
[00:47] <cryptic0> I think it's a broadcom chip and I am surprised that ubuntu doesn't have drivers for it
[00:47] <sabat> vltL: linux is already installed and workingon the 250gb, and I used to have a 500gb drive as my "storage" drive, but I have filled it, so I removed it. I put in 4 500gb drives. now I just need to create the large volume out of the 4. I am not new to mounting/formatting/and so on, just not sure how to actually make a jbod from scratch.
[00:47] <schlaftier> pokeh: this will quit the first instance of irexec and start a new one
[00:48] <fluffy_> topo_: unfortunately my samba experience isn't great. could be one of many things -- firewall, bad network config, someting up with your smb.conf :p
[00:48] <sean___> cryptic0: try 9.10?
[00:48] <vlt> sabat: It's not neccessary but I'd recommend creating one partition per disk marked "8E" (lvm).
[00:48] <acicula> sabat have you installed all the updates?
[00:49] <Flannel> sabat: What you'll do is format those drives as 'lvm', those become PVs (Physical Volumes) then you use vgcreate to create a volume group (VG) out of all of those drives, then you have "one big drive" you can create LVs (Logical Volumes) on, which are akin to regular partitions
[00:49] <Barridus> nothing i can find on google about the crond service makes any sense, can anyone assist?
[00:49] <eye-zak> cryptic0: what broadcom chip is it ?
[00:49] <vlt> sabat: Then create the PVs: `pvcreate /dev/sdx1` for each disk
[00:49] <pcgeek32147> how do i know what video card i have
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: upgrade-from-grub-legacy insists on using /dev/sdb (which is my root mirror) over /dev/sda.
[00:49] <acicula> err i mean cryptic0
[00:49] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, that did restart it, but now its not changing it at all. The line I changed is: "config = xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'"
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: Any way to correct this?
[00:49] <sabat> acicula: yes, I have all the updates installed.
[00:49] <eye-zak> pcgeek32147: lshw or lspci
[00:49] <fluffy_> Spunkym3nkey: libdvdcss should work fine, vdr-plugin-dvd is... well, a plugin for a different prog
[00:49] <Andorin> jjnorth: I don't know :S
[00:49] <pokeh> schlaftier: perhaps my keymap is different?
[00:49] <aprilhare> hey
[00:49] <fluffy_> Andorin: try mount -t ntfs-3g instead
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: lol, well, I'll try it anyways.
[00:49] <cryptic0> acicula: it's a pretty recent version of ubuntu, I highly doubt upgrade would make a difference
[00:49] <sean___> ubuntu is not for noobs
[00:49] <topo_> fluffy_: thanks any way ill keep looking, Do you have it working? if so, could you paste bin you smb.conf?
[00:50] <aprilhare> can you 'grow' ext3 or ext4 partitions?
[00:50] <sabat> vlt: so, on each drive, create a type 8e partition spanning the whole disk, going to do that now.
[00:50] <schlaftier> pokeh: maybe, but I doubt that: Does this work when you run it in a terminal: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:50] <sean___> sure aprilbare
[00:50] <acicula> cryptic0, i dont mean upgrade, i mean update after install
[00:50] <vlt> sabat: Then create a VG and add the PVs: `vgcreate <name> /dev/sd{w,x,y,z}1`
[00:50] <Andorin> fluffy_: Running now
[00:50] <acicula> cryptic0, broadcom uses some proprietary stuff thats probably not on the installation disc?
[00:50] <aprilhare> sean___, that sounds handy - the same way you can make a ntfs or fat filesystem larger?
[00:50] <fluffy_> topo_: mine's autogenerated -- but ok :)
[00:50] <sean___> yeah should work
[00:50] <pokeh> schlaftier: I confirmed the keymap is the same. When running the command in terminal, i discoverd that xte isn't installed! :)
[00:50] <jjnorth> sean: Was that crack aimed at me?
[00:51] <sabat> vlt it's /dev/sda = 250gb, /dev/sdb,c,d,e are teh 500gb.
[00:51] <vlt> sabat: Then create an LV in that group: `lvcreate <group name> -n <lv name> -l 100%FREE`. done
[00:51] <Andorin> fluffy_: I had him run: " sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /home/username/Desktop " and he gets errors.
[00:51] <Johnny_101> pcgeek32147 : System...Administration..Hardware Drivers!
[00:51] <jmonreal> Hi all
[00:51] <jmonreal> Ive been using ubuntu for a while
[00:51] <pokeh> schlaftier: WOOOT! I installed and did everything, now it works 100% with osdnotify! Excellent!
[00:51] <schlaftier> pokeh: ah, sure, that's not installed by default. By the way, if you run irexec without "-d" it will not run in the background but report this kind of errors
[00:51] <vlt> sabat: You have a new 2TB sized block device in /dev/mapper/vg_name-lv_name
[00:51] <schlaftier> pokeh: you're welcome
[00:52] <jmonreal> and i have just installed 10.04 on 2 laptops
[00:52] <sean___> jjnorth: sure if youre a noob
[00:52] <jmonreal> one without any problem
[00:52] <Flannel> sean___: Please stop that.
[00:52] <fluffy_> topo_: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mVGZbSY8
[00:52] <jmonreal> but the other after making a safe-upgrade
[00:52] <fluffy_> Andorin: what errors do you get?
[00:52] <bazhang> sean___, that language is not acceptable here. Last warning.
[00:52] <jjnorth> sean: Thanks for the helpful reply.
[00:52] <jmonreal> grub stop working normaly
[00:52] <pokeh> schlaftier: So now, my hero, can we try and get Rythmbox integration working?
[00:52] <jmonreal> when I reboot i get a prompt with grub>
[00:52] <schlaftier> pokeh: for Rhythmbox, you could use: rhythmbox-client --next (or --previous)
[00:52] <jmonreal> can anyone help me?
[00:53] <asw3> cannot access .gvfs: Transport endpoint is not connected
[00:53] <asw3> what can i do?
[00:53] <schlaftier> pokeh: and of course --play-pause
[00:53] <usr13> jmonreal: Say what you have to say.  Don't scatter it all over, or no one will be albe to figure out what you are trying to say.
[00:53] <jjnorth> I suppose my last real resort here is hand-editing grub.cfg... is there any way to avoid that?
[00:53] <eye-zak> jmonreal: run the live cd, grub is having issues finding your boot drive
[00:53] <schlaftier> pokeh: just copy a block in your .lircrc and fill in the button name and command
[00:53] <asw3> i can get access to ".gvfs"
[00:53] <asw3> ?
[00:53] <bazhang> jjnorth, you never edit that file; check the grub2 wiki
[00:54] <eye-zak> jmonreal: from the live cd / rescue terminal you can chroot into your new installation and run update-grub to fix it
[00:54] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, but after running the live cd what should i do? chroot to the partition where linux is installed and do grub-install?
[00:54] <jjnorth> bazhang: All I'm getting are circular references to commands that return the wrong partition for my boot system.
[00:54] <eye-zak> jjnorth: see /etc/grub.d/*
[00:54] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yup, figured that part out :D Working on it now. Will report back in a sec once i get this set up.. :D
[00:54] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, so update-grub
[00:54] <jmonreal> thanks
[00:54] <Typos_King> jmonreal:   I"d say yes
[00:54] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you are running live from usb, there may be issues though
[00:55] <jmonreal> eye-zak: so, why this things happen?
[00:55] <Andorin> fluffy_: http://pastebin.com/dxMmfNGb
[00:55] <MACscr> lol, why is /proc/cpuinfo only showing 1ghz when i have a 3.1ghz cpu?
[00:55] <yosi1234> vet & dancek, are u there?    I tried out webmin and love it!!
[00:55] <gbear14275> do I need to add something to my /etc/rc.local file if I just brought up my second NIC?  I'm following this howto but am not sure if it still applies (http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking)
[00:55] <fluffy_> MACscr: read up on SpeedStep
[00:55] <yosi1234> since this morning form hating ubuntu server, webmin made me love it, its so easy to use with that interface!
[00:55] <schlaftier> pokeh: also, if you don't like that Rhythmbox starts when you press a key while it isn't running, add --no-start
[00:56] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I checked those scripts, even update-grub outputs /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sda1.
[00:56] <eye-zak> jmontreal: the grub.cfg generation code is not as good as it should be, so resources (not kernels or initrds) can be loaded by (hdA,B) instead of the new method using search for uuid
[00:56] <usr13> gbear14275: What are you trhing to do?
[00:56] <MACscr> fluffy_: i have a amd x2 6000+ desktop, its definitely not speedstep =P
[00:56] <sabat> vlt: ok, step one complete, I have 4 500gb type 8e partitions now... so now I run lvm and use vgcreate on each one?
[00:56] <fluffy_> Andorin: try using /dev/sdb1
[00:56] <yosi1234> Anyone her using Ubuntu server on VMWARE ESXi?   is there a performance hit with that?
[00:56] <fluffy_> MACscr: Ah, ok, selfpwned for assuming intel then lol
[00:56] <gbear14275> usr13: I'm trying to setup a 2 nic headless server with one nic facing inside our lan and one public facing
[00:56] <ikonia> yosi1234: depends on your host
[00:56] <eye-zak> jmontreal: you can edit by hand for the 1st boot and then run update-grub from the real system to fix perminant
[00:57] <gbear14275> usr13: I just rebooted to check if it will persist
[00:57] <avadakedevra> need help
[00:57] <yosi1234> host is a simple Xenon 3440 chip single processor with a huge storage array on a EMC san
[00:57] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Edit where, 10-linux?
[00:57] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT and know how to get the nvidia card to work?
[00:57] <bazhang> avadakedevra, then ask a question, all on one line
[00:57] <yosi1234> 8gb ram
[00:57] <sabat> vlt: I think I said that wrong, but I think I get it.
[00:57] <ikonia> yosi1234: how it performs is nothing to do with ubuntu, but how you setup and manage your virtual host
[00:57] <eye-zak> jmontreal: in grub.cfg there are set root='(hdX,Y)' lines that should not be there, noone looked at them so we have issues
[00:57] <CR3AL> Anyone know how i can list channels using Irssi so that i can page through?
[00:58] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what do you mean edit by hadn? that i should put the exact partition where is installed?
[00:58] <eye-zak> jjnorth: sorry, what exactly was your end goal ?
[00:58] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Looks like jmonreal's goal, to be honest.
[00:58] <fluffy_> MACscr: ok since we're talking AMD do you have cool n quiet enabled in bios?
[00:58] <avadakedevra> my gnome boot process has slowed down like hell recently.cant figure out
[00:58] <eye-zak> jmonreal: in grub.cfg, there are sections like set root='(hd0,3)'
[00:58] <Andorin> fluffy_: Apparently it's mounted now. But what can we do about automounting?
[00:58] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Every command I issue tries to boot the system from /dev/sdb1, when the system is on /dev/sda1.
[00:58] <yosi1234> ikonia: will vmware add latency to the webserving (running lamp on it)
[00:58] <sabat> vlt: Thanks for your help, I may not entirely have it yet, but I am miles closer to getting it now.
[00:58] <MACscr> fluffy_: and its definitely not the bios doing it, so i need to figure out why ubuntu is doing it. No, coolnquiet is off
[00:58] <gbear14275> usr13: it did now
[00:59] <gbear14275> not
[00:59] <gbear14275> *
[00:59] <usr13> gbear14275: If you are wanting to set static IP's for your nics, you should simply edit /etc/network/interfaces
[00:59] <ikonia> yosi1234: as I've said it depends on how you setup and manage your virtual host, it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:59] <gbear14275> usr13: ok I'll do that
[00:59] <juanffx> Hi guys, someone knows why the sound sometimes doesnt start in 10.04 at boot and have to reboot (useless most of the time) to work with the VIA-VT1720 soundcard?
[00:59] <pokeh> schlaftier: AWESOME! Play/pause, forward, and backward all work! I actually like rythmbox starting when I press those, as that's the default action in OSX that i've been accustomed to. One thing though, pressing forward/back for anything more than a split-second results in skipping two or more tracks. Is there a way to fix that, so it only changes on the button release perhaps? Maybe repeat=0? Thanks for your patience man. I'm 14 and trying
[00:59] <jmonreal> eye-zak: i see them
[00:59] <usr13> gbear14275: You can place commands in /etc/rc.local and that will work too.. but it is better to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[01:00] <schlaftier> pokeh: you guessed it, repeat = 0
[01:00] <avadakedevra> how to speed up gnome boot
[01:00] <jmonreal> eye-zak: i should delete them?
[01:00] <schlaftier> pokeh: you're very much welcome
[01:00] <jjnorth> eye-zak: It's a bit confusing, tbh, because Grub... as near as I can tell... is looking for its configuration on hd0,1 (swap), and the config file would try to boot from my backup drive, were it accessible.
[01:00] <eye-zak> jmonreal: no, replace them
[01:00] <gbear14275> usr13: thanks... I don't know how old this howto is and looks to be fedora/redhat focused so yeah advice like that helps!  thanks
[01:00] <jmonreal> eye-zak: for what?
[01:00] <vlt> sabat: I wrote every single step. What did you miss?
[01:00] <usr13> gbear14275: Yes, it is for fedira/redhat not Ubuntu
[01:00] <fluffy_> Andorin: what version of ubuntu?
[01:01] <MACscr> fluffy_: im thinking in need to check out cpufreq in lucid, but im not sure how to get to it
[01:01] <Andorin> fluffy_: 32-bit Lucid.
[01:01] <toxic> could someone help me configure iptables to have every outgoing connection on a choosen port go through a specific interface (now, everything OUTgoing goes to eth1, I'd like port 80 OUTgoing to use wlan0... but only port 80...) (using ubuntu-server)
[01:01] <eye-zak> jmonreal: gimme a sec to lookup something
[01:01] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, thanks
[01:01] <usr13> gbear14275: First, see    man interfaces
[01:01] <Typos_King> !fw | toxic
[01:01] <usr13> gbear14275: .... for instructions as to how to properly edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:01] <avadakedevra> how to speed up gnome boot
[01:01] <pokeh> schlaftier: Excellent!!! Thanks for all your help man, I really appreciate it!
[01:01] <Typos_King> !firewall | toxic
[01:02] <greezmunkey> MACscr: chec this out: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model" - in a terminal
[01:02] <MACscr> fluffy_: nevermind, found just added it to a panel
[01:02] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: testing in grub in VM
[01:02] <toxic> Typos_King, i looked at iptables carefully...
[01:02] <toxic> Typos_King, I found no way to specify the outgoing interface...
[01:02] <usr13> gbear14275: And make sure to take your time and get it right, because you'll loose connection to your lan if you get it wrong.
[01:02] <MACscr> im not a big fan of "ondemand" cpu throttling, etc
[01:03] <yosi1234> Setting up my first Ubuntu LAMP Server - is it fairly secure from the default install, or ar there some recommended steps to secure the box
[01:03] <Goatee> hey, I kinda went too far with making nautilus looking good and hid the menubar - in fact all bars. xD is there a way to redo it? because I wanted to change the background-image of nautilus and can't get to the "edit" menu. ^^
[01:03] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I think I'll just hand-code it to start.  It's a bit ridiculous to have to do this, but worth checking out.
[01:03] <gbear14275> usr13: do you know of any that are current (ish) and ubuntu focused.  I've been trying to read the man pages but this is my first time doing this.  I'm not even sure what I'm looking to consult the man pages about (reading the man interfaces now)
[01:03] <Typos_King> toxic:    maybe any of the frontends may help :|
[01:03] <schlaftier> pokeh: glad I could help!
[01:03] <toxic> Typos_King, I'm on ubuntu-server...
[01:03] <fluffy_> Andorin: apt-get install pmount usbmount
[01:03] <eye-zak> jjnorth: i'm don't remember your motivation, jmontreal needs only 1 boot then can fix
[01:03] <jmonreal> jjnorth: ive installed it twice and got the same result
[01:04] <toxic> so no front-end, and I already tried ufs and firestarter : no such option possible !
[01:04] <vlt> Anyone (I've helped in the last hours ;-) knowing C here willing to help me with a small problem (the folks in #c are like "read a book first" ...)?
[01:04] <Andorin> fluffy_: Are those going to require command-line configuration? Remember, I'm helping a Linux noob here.
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: hi. i use cpufrequtils
[01:05] <Typos_King> toxic:   I see, can't say :(
[01:05] <Loshki> vlt: yes, I'll bite. But it's offtopic for this channel, you'll have to PM me...
[01:05] <usr13> Hello Marge.  :)
[01:05] <fluffy_> Andorin: Don't think so, iirc.
[01:05] <Spunkym3nkey> does kde extra codecs help on supporting more file types?
[01:05] <sean___> pm for linux help
[01:05] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I think we're after the same thing here, it seems my GRUB configuration keeps installing to swap space...?
[01:05] <bazhang> !pm | sean___
[01:05] <corey> hey guys i'm a little confused.  I'm running 10.04 and about half of the time if my computer goes to sleep or hibernates i can't use my touchpad when i come back
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: did you get  cpufrequtils installed and going ok?
[01:06] <corey> though if i plug in a usb mouse it works just fine
[01:06] <MACscr> onetinsoldier: i just used the applet built into gnome. That seemed to do the trick. I kind of find it retarded that ubuntu had it on by default
[01:06] <usr13> corey: Fully updated?
[01:06] <jjnorth> jmonreal: What's your system been doing, for comparison's sake?
[01:06] <MACscr> aka, "ondemand" scaling
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: ahh, roger
[01:06] <corey> usr13: yes
[01:07] <maelaian> when i try to install all i see are square boxes instead of text
[01:07] <jmonreal> jjnorth: what do you mean?
[01:07] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: my code (for something else) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/438074/ , take a look
[01:07] <gbear14275> is there anyway to make a nic card LED flash?  I don't know if my left or right nic is my eth0
[01:07] <greezmunkey> gbear14275: ping something
[01:08] <jjnorth> jmonreal: Nevermind, doesn't look like the same issue.
[01:08] <asw3> what can i do with this error :\
[01:08] <asw3> cannot access /home/user/.gvfs/: Transport endpoint is not connected
[01:08] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: grub_disk was used to load locale, background image, etc from label-based /boot drive
[01:08] <Stavros> hello
[01:08] <CR3AL> hiya
[01:09] <Stavros> is there a stripped-down version of ubuntu? i don't really need the graphical packages, i just want something like the server version but even that is 600mb
[01:09] <rascal999> any wizards on nfs shares and diskless booting?
[01:09] <CR3AL> Yes
[01:09] <Johnny_101> Stavros, CR3AL : welcome to Ubuntu
[01:09] <CR3AL> crunchbang
[01:09] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what does that mean?
[01:09] <bazhang> Stavros, the minimal version
[01:09] <fluffy_> Stavros: debian netinst :p
[01:09] <Stavros> bazhang: which one is that?
[01:09] <bazhang> CR3AL, dont recommmend that here
[01:09] <sabat> vlt: step 2 complete, I did sudo vgcreate dumptruck /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 and it seems to have worked so far.
[01:09] <bazhang> !minimal | Stavros
[01:09] <jmonreal> eye-zak: I've just tried update-grub and got a message cannot find list of partitions
[01:10] <Stavros> bazhang: oh damn, i never knew this existed, thanks!
[01:10] <usr13> gbear14275: Well, one thing you can do is start a ping to a particular IP and unplug the cables and watch for the ping results to stop.
[01:10] <fluffy_> I never knew Ubuntu had a minimal version. Y'learn something new every day :D
[01:10] <eye-zak> jmontreal: are u in the live disk, in a chroot ? did you bind-mount /dev/ from outside
[01:10] <tux414> I have a built in microphone on an acer aspire one  model #Kav60 series d250-1417 microphone won't work with any skype or empathy
[01:10] <vlt> sabat: fine
[01:10] <vlt> sabat: go on
[01:10] <greezmunkey> *Question* Regarding update-grub, is it the same as update-grub2 (assuming grub2 is installed)?
[01:11] <bazhang> greezmunkey, update-grub is used for grub2
[01:11] <eye-zak> jmontreal: so i think the easiest way is to get the UUID of your /boot (or /root if you have no /boot)
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: yes
[01:11] <sabat> vlt: so now I use pvcreate to make the new large disk on it right?
[01:11] <greezmunkey> Thansk guys :)
[01:11] <eye-zak> bazhang: update-grub is update-grub2 if you have only grub2 installed
[01:11] <gafir> hello
[01:11] <gafir> How can I know the partition name of /home and the partition name of /
[01:12] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I'm going to reboot and see if a manual config fixed this; otherwise, it's back to specifying kernel and initrd from the GRUB shell...
[01:12] <eye-zak> jmontreal: then look for all of the search .. --fs-uuid --set XXXXXXX and set them
[01:12] <gafir> I set them as two different partitions, but they only appear as in the same directory
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> gafir: type mount
[01:12] <sabat> vlt: I only want one partition out of all this, so I am assuming my next step is "make the drive" then "format the drive" then "mount it"
[01:12] <Goatee> hey, I kinda went too far with making nautilus looking good and hid the menubar - in fact all bars. is there a way to redo it? because I wanted to change the background-image of nautilus and can't get to the "edit" menu. ^^
[01:12] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help
[01:12] <gafir> bastic_raZor: worked thanks :-)
[01:12] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, that should be the uuid that appears in /etc/fstab right?
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: yes the one for /
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: or /boot if you have a seperate /boot
[01:13] <Condoulo> are there any tools in Ubuntu that I can use to compress PNG files?
[01:13] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok
[01:13] <usr13> marge: Hello Marge!
[01:13] <Andorin> fluffy_: It would also appear that his Windows XP partition is not appearing in the list on the left in Nautilus. >>
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you don't know, you can use sed -i 's/OLD-UUID/NEW-UUID/g' /path/to/grub.cfg to replace all
[01:14] <vlt> sabat: Yes, I already described how to "make the drive"
[01:14] <fluffy_> Andorin: being a fixed internal drive that probably needs to go in his /etc/fstab
[01:14] <swordz> Hi. When I boot up my PC, afetr the flash screen but before the login screen, I get a 'snow' screen - random lines on the screen. Worryingly, sometimes this screen contains fragments from my previous session (since which my computer has been OFF).
[01:14] <Andorin> fluffy_: But /my/ WinXP partition appears in the pane...
[01:14] <pokeh> How can I get lirc to start on login?
[01:15] <fluffy_> Andorin: ah. Does he go through the complete shutdown in XP?
[01:15] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> Condoulo: sure.. optipng, pngcrush. there might be others as well. don't know
[01:15] <jmonreal> eye-zak: they are set :S
[01:15] <eye-zak> swordz: this may be an issue with the default framebuffer driver vga16fb
[01:15] <Condoulo> onetinsoldier, thanks :)
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> Condoulo: you're welcome
[01:15] <Andorin> fluffy_: Yes.
[01:15] <swordz> It remembers what was the screen over a power off?!
[01:15] <jjnorth> eye-zak: That's got it.  It's a dirty hack, but it works.
[01:15] <eye-zak> jmontreal: that is all you need, grub is already in the mbr so try reboot
[01:15] <swordz> How do I stop it? Can I? Is it known about/scheduled to be fixed?
[01:15] <rascal999> netbooting using nfs share. I change pxelinux.cfg/default file from append root=/dev/nfs netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.0.2:/mnt/fs initrd=initrd.img rw (note *rw*)  to append root=/dev/nfs netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.0.2:/mnt/fs initrd=initrd.img and i get this error rpc.statd is not running but is  required for remote locking -- Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start stad
[01:16] <Andorin> fluffy_: And according to him, the drive doesn't auto-mount even with pmount and usbmount installed.
[01:16] <jmonreal> but when i did update-grub it did throw me the error i told you
[01:16] <eye-zak> jjnorth: hopefully you can get it to regenerate properly with scripts from /etc/grub.d/ but it takes some hacking, update-grub regenerates grub.cfg
[01:16] <jmonreal> eye-zak: but when i did update-grub it did throw me the error i told you
[01:16] <maelaian> when i try to install all i see are square boxes instead of text
[01:16] <pokeh> When I start my computer, I am greeted by a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper left hand corner (after grub, mind you). After a a bit, it then goes into the Lucid loading screen with the nice graphics (plymouth). However, it is very brief. I suspect that I am spending most of my time in the blank/blink screen, and very little time in the actual loading screen. Does anyone know why this is?
[01:16] <eye-zak> jmontreal: update-grub makes grub.cfg, that is it
[01:16] <Andorin> fluffy_: Never mind. It mounts now.
[01:16] <sabat> vlt: I am assuming your talking about this line, (<vlt> sabat: Then create an LV in that group: `lvcreate <group name> -n <lv name> -l 100%FREE`. done) so.. lvcreate dumptruck -n (what goes here?) -l 100%FREE
[01:16] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what dows update-grub2 ??
[01:17] <eye-zak> jmontreal: exact same
[01:17] <Andorin> pokeh: Same for me when I boot on my desktop, but not my laptop. Is it a bothersome issue?
[01:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I feel I should enlighten you more on my situation: this laptop has been through a lot, starting off with an x86 install Gutsy, then upgrading through Intreprid with its sole clean install being to switch to amd64 in Jaunty.
[01:17] <fluffy_> Andorin: the stick or the XP partition?
[01:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Perhaps it's overdue for a clean install.  ;)
[01:18] <vlt> sabat: dumptruck is the name of your volume group. Now you need a name for the (one) volume you want to create in it.
[01:18] <Andorin> fluffy_: the stick, sorry. XP partition doesn't show up.
[01:18] <bolly> hi all im trying to grab my latest driver for my card with the hardware menu and its giving me:
[01:18] <bolly> SystemError: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/nvidia-96_96.43.17-0ubuntu1_i386.deb Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[01:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth: hmm interesting.. but that should not hurt grub, but i'm a little lost as to your excact situation
[01:18] <bolly> any ideas?
[01:18] <FloodBot3> bolly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:18] <bolly> eep sorry
[01:18] <MACscr> got kind of a dumb question. I often launch programs from console and when i do and i want to get back to the command prompt, i would press control + c, the problem is that often cancels the app i had launched. Whats the proper way to do it?
[01:18] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work
[01:18] <usr13> jjnorth: Is it a dual core processor?
[01:18] <pokeh> Andorin: Lol, it's not particularly "bothersome", but if there's an easy fix I wouldn't mind getting rid of that screen and spending more time looking at my beautiful plymouth theme :D
[01:18] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you want to run update-grub[2] in a chroot, you need to do sudo mount --bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev first
[01:18] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Well, don't worry about it too much.  It's an HP Pavilion, so it's been nothing but trouble from Day One back on Shrike.
[01:19] <maelaian> Anyone know why on the install screen all the text are boxes.
[01:19] <eye-zak> jjnorth: i'm glad i went with the dell inspiron
[01:19] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Got a cooling pad though, right? ;)
[01:19] <jjnorth> usr13: Didn't mean to ignore you; no, it's a Turion 64.
[01:20] <eye-zak> jjnorth: that's what my roomate does with his
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: there's 2 ways... the easy way is to do a command like this...  command &
[01:20] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:20] <jjnorth> maelaian: Sounds like an error with libpango.
[01:20] <eye-zak> jjnorth: his gpu has overheated into death
[01:20] <usr13> jjnorth: Have you installed a 64 bit OS?
[01:20] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: no one is going or should pm you to help you with it
[01:21] <MACscr> and to say html isnt working, what the heck are you saying?
[01:21] <tux414> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot built-in microphones on net books.
[01:21] <MACscr> oh, im retarded, you said hdmi
[01:21] <MACscr> lol
[01:21] <jjnorth> maelaian: Sorry, I've had the problem before, don't remember how I fixed it. :(
[01:21] <eye-zak> tux414: which net book ?
[01:21] <jjnorth> usr13: Yeah, back at Jaunty.
[01:21] <fluffy_> Andorin: have to go soon, but here's a couple things to suggest for the XP disk -- try adding it into fstab, failing that he may just have to manually mount it. Linux can be hit and miss when it comes to NTFS in my experience, but mostly hit ;)
[01:21] <tux414> eye-zak, acer aspire one
[01:21] <pcgeek32147> why i need help
[01:22] <maelaian> this has had to be the worst install experience i have ever had with linux. Ive never needed special kernel flags before.
[01:22] <jjnorth> usr13: Why, did you have some questions?
[01:22] <jmonreal> eye-zak: it worked! thanks
[01:22] <maelaian> ontop of the installer isues.
[01:22] <usr13> jjnorth: Ok, well never mind. Not sure what your problem is.
[01:22] <jjnorth> usr13: lol, that could come across wrong... ;)
[01:22] <Johnny_101> bolly : solved?
[01:22] <tux414> eye-zak, d250-1417 is the series
[01:22] <bolly> no sir
[01:22] <eye-zak> tux414: see help.ubuntu.com, there is an issue that one of the stereo channels on your mic is used for noise cancellation
[01:22] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:22] <compaq> you know, my cpu is idle, before, I had compiz and nvidia card with proprietary drivers, and my cpu was all maxed out, spent hours shopping online for a new computer, and then I removed the nvidia card, and am using onboard intel with just metacity, and my cpu is barely even used up
[01:22] <eye-zak> jmonreal: your welcome
[01:23] <Andorin> fluffy_: Right. Thanks for your help.
[01:23] <jjnorth> usr13: Sometimes, I don't know what my problem is, either.  ;)
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: you see my message? try -->  command &
[01:23] <eye-zak> tux414, i saw it earlier, i think it's in the release bugs for karmic, or the pulseaudio page
[01:23] <fluffy_> Andorin: no worries :)
[01:23] <Typos_King> Andorin:   http://maketecheasier.com/auto-mount-your-ntfs-partition-in-ubuntu/2009/04/14  if it helps
[01:24] <jjnorth> usr13: You got quiet there... XD
[01:24] <MACscr> onetinsoldier: as in: 'conky &' ?
[01:24] <usr13> jjnorth: Maybe you should just re-install.
[01:24] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:24] <compaq> I don't know if it was compiz or nvidia proprietary driver that was killing my cpu.  Anyway, i am going to turn on compiz in a bit and check again, then I will tell you if the proprietary drivers were too heavy or compiz
[01:24] <usr13> marge: Yes, you can get on it now.
[01:24] <tux414> eye-zak, thanks i will give it a shot
[01:24] <jjnorth> usr13: Yeah, I had to get the system operable first, though... turns out, it's the only functional optical drive in this house.
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: yes
[01:25] <sabat> MACscr: yes, the & means to run something, but immediately return me to the shell
[01:25] <jjnorth> usr13: I don't have good luck with hardware. ^^'
[01:25] <usr13> jjnorth: Oh, I see.
[01:25] <MACscr> sabat: thats not working
[01:25] <jjnorth> usr13: Now the terrifying part of that, is that I'm a technician by trade.
[01:25] <usr13> jjnorth: Hardware does not require luck.  It either works nor not.  :)
[01:26] <pcgeek32147> plz help me
[01:26] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:26] <Scunizi> compaq: souldn't be.. I just came in so missed a lot of your issue.. did you "upgrade" or fresh install?
[01:26] <greezmunkey> jjnorth: terrifying to your customers mabe :)
[01:26] <goundy> Hi
[01:26] <jjnorth> greezmunkey: If I told them that, yes. ;)
[01:26] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: damnit, be patient, have you never used irc before?
[01:26] <goundy> Guys I just upgraded to ubuntu 10.04
[01:26] <Inu> Hi, I updated from 9.10 to 10.04 and now my network is disabled. Can't ping, update, anything.
[01:26] <compaq> scubacuda, my cpu is idle, before, I had compiz and nvidia card with proprietary drivers, and my cpu was all maxed out, spent hours shopping online for a new computer, and then I removed the nvidia card, and am using onboard intel with just metacity, and my cpu is barely even used up
[01:26] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: your obviously not providing enough information for anyone to even help you
[01:26] <goundy> But I get a random freeze/hang up
[01:26] <goundy> The CPU starts working at 100%
[01:27] <goundy> And I can't do anything
[01:27] <goundy> I've to use the power button to shutdown
[01:27] <jjnorth> Inu: Separate computer, I hope?
[01:27] <eye-zak> Inu: what is the status of your network card with ifoconfig -a
[01:27] <goundy> Anyone came across this ?
[01:27] <jjnorth> Sorry, sorry, I couldn't help myself. ^_^
[01:27] <Scunizi> compaq: which driver did you use 173 or the "other" that has no version number?
[01:27] <Inu> haven't tried that one yet. i will
[01:27] <Andorin> !enter
[01:27] <eye-zak> goundy: what were u running ?
[01:27] <Goatee> hi. I really need some help. :/ I have hidden all my bars in Nautilus - including the menubar with "file, edit, etc." and can't undo it anymore. whenever I change the gconf to "start_with_menubar = true" and restart nautilus it changes it back to false. any ideas? I tried to change it as root as well.
[01:27] <goundy> eye-zak, well the first time pidgin, thunderbird and a gnome-terminal
[01:27] <maelaian> Anyone know why on the install screen all the text are boxes? It was hell even getting the installer this far...
[01:28] <compaq> Scunizi, I can't remember, it is an nvidia 128mb old card, let me see 1 sec
[01:28] <Condoulo> with pngcrush, which options should I use to compress a png?
[01:28] <goundy> eye-zak, second time + xchat and google chrome
[01:28] <bart_> Howdy Y'all
[01:28] <jedc> I just installed 10.04 on my a lenovo g555, the problem is my speakers do not mute when I plug in headphones and I can't find controls to mute them without muting the headphones also.
[01:28] <eye-zak> goundy: my xchat is horrible, i cannot browse channels
[01:28] <goundy> eye-zak, it works perfectly for me
[01:28] <compaq> Scunizi, I am pretty sure it was gforce or something like that
[01:28] <eye-zak> goundy: when i do, i think that was what i got
[01:29] <bart_> jedc: do you have an X-Fi card?
[01:29] <eye-zak> goundy: i browse, enter channels,  oh yeah the key was make Favourites
[01:29] <Scunizi> compaq: naw.. what I was asking is when you enabled the drivers, which one did you pick.. on my system there were 2 to choose from
[01:29] <compaq> Scunizi, there weren
[01:29] <goundy> eye-zak, so?
[01:29] <Scunizi> compaq: none? so was this a fresh install?
[01:29] <eye-zak> goundy: by 3 or 4 my xchat stalls
[01:29] <compaq> Scunizi, it didn't give me the option, just the one proprietary came up, and asked to enable it and I said yes
[01:30] <sabat> vlt: I created my volume, called it 'dt' but I don't see how I mount it.
[01:30] <goundy> eye-zak, only xchat ?
[01:30] <compaq> Scunizi, yeah
[01:30] <goundy> eye-zak, I get my whole system freezing dude lol
[01:30] <sabat> vlt: should it show up in /dev somewhere now?
[01:30] <eye-zak> goundy, ok not the same prob then .. i could recover
[01:30] <goundy> heh
[01:30] <eye-zak> goundy, sounds like xorg/video issues but who knows
[01:30] <bart_> I am having a rediculous amount of sound problems with 10.04... been messing with it for 2 days... and looks like i can't fix it
[01:31] <vlt> 01:51 < vlt> sabat: You have a new 2TB sized block device in /dev/mapper/vg_name-lv_name
[01:31] <goundy> eye-zak, I think ti's actually the 2.6.32-22 kernel
[01:31] <asw3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/212789
[01:31] <jjnorth> dosordie... died?  Must've had a change of heart.
[01:31] <sabat> vlt: ty... sorry, I lose some of the conversation in such a busy channel
[01:31] <asw3> how to fix this?
[01:31] <bart_> looks like the X-Fi Extreme Audio was left out of all the driver sets from both alsa and creative...
[01:31] <eye-zak> goundy, did you try the newer kernels from the kernel team (not in repo)
[01:31] <sjefen6> "Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com" have something exploded?
[01:31] <sabat> vlt, again, thank you wholeheartedly. you've been more than helpful and patient.
[01:32] <Scunizi> compaq: ok.. 2 things.. right after a fresh install I always "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. that brings in all the newer packages since the release.. then go to System>Admin>Hardware Drivers and look there for your options.. most likely you'll have 2.  On my laptop it enabled the 173 driver which tends to overheat my computer.. the other didn't. On my desktop machines I typically use the driver
[01:32] <Scunizi>  direct from Nvidia.. but that's another issue..
[01:32] <goundy> eye-zak, I never manualy built kernel for ubuntu actually
[01:32] <eye-zak> goundy, i think they are pre-built images if i remember correctly
[01:32] <compaq> Scunizi, no, there were none there
[01:32] <Scunizi> compaq: did you do all the updates though?
[01:32] <compaq> Scunizi, there were none there
[01:33] <goundy> eye-zak, I just found it I'm gonna try kernel .33 :)
[01:33] <maelaian> Ok I tried to ignore the boxes and continue installation. When I hit install after going through all the screens it kicked me to desktop. Whats going on?
[01:33] <eye-zak> goundy, but if it's a module you can build the module seperately, i had to do that so sound and usb would work on my intel
[01:33] <goundy> thanks dude
[01:33] <bart_> lol... with my bluetooth headset i have MIC but no output, with my on board NVIDIA sound i have MIC but no output, and with X-Fi I have output but no MIC
[01:33] <goundy> eye-zak, yeah I see
[01:33] <jjnorth> sjefen6: ping -c1 no.archive.ubuntu.com returns 100% packet loss... :(
[01:33] <compaq> Scunizi, yeah, well I did a few install tries and I installed all the updates once, it doesn't make much of difference in my opinion, the release was just a few weeks ago
[01:34] <Nick07> I need HELP!!! some dummy put windows and messed up my ubuntu grub
[01:34] <Nick07> using 10.04 lts desktop
[01:34] <jjnorth> sjefen6: Looks like it's back up now. :)
[01:34] <arand> !grub2 | Nick07
[01:34] <eye-zak> Nick07: what position is your machine in now ? borked grub ?
[01:34] <sabat> vlt: one last question, do suggest any FS in paticular for a large drive like this? I was kinda tossing reiserfs and ext4 around in my head, but I really don't know the strengths or weaknesses of them
[01:35] <maelaian> Screw 10.04. Im installing 9.10 lol.
[01:35] <Scunizi> compaq: it can.. there are several versions of 10.04 that will happen.. 10.04.1 10.04.2  10.04.3 .. depends on the devs.. but there's continuous updates that's why the long string for updating.. it catches all that needs to be cought
[01:35] <arand> Nick07: reinstall according to wiki
[01:35] <Nick07> yeah
[01:35] <maelaian> Whats the steps for an upgrade of a clean 9.10 system to 10.04, trying to find it on the wiki i dont see it.
[01:35] <eye-zak> Nick07: see wiki
[01:35] <jjnorth> Reiser's a killer filesystem.. or so I'm told. =3
[01:35] <sjefen6> jjnorth: these computers; they are truly a strang contraption
[01:35] <Nick07> how do i reinstall grun without hurting my ubuntu setup
[01:35] <Flannel> jjnorth: Please refrain from those sorts of things
[01:36] <jjnorth> Flannel: Got it, won't happen again. :)
[01:36] <Typos_King> grun?
[01:36] <pussyroller> help!  made custom ubuntu live cd, but it can't detect hard disk!  what can i do to fix this problem?
[01:36] <bart_> sabat: ubuntu won't provide support for reiser.. .only ext4
[01:36] <vlt> sabat: I'd go for ext4
[01:36] <Flannel> bart_: That's not correct
[01:36] <vlt> sabat: (but I'd do that for any sized fs ;-)
[01:36] <bart_> Flannel: That was what I read
[01:36] <compaq> ok here it goes, compiz --replace, lets see it strain on resources
[01:36] <Nick07> need a link to a wiki or step by step how it please
[01:37] <Flannel> bart_: That's inaccurate.  We recommend ext4 as a default, but "only supporting it" isn't true
[01:37] <jedc> Does anyone know how I can find controls to mute my laptop speakers but not my heapphone output? there are only master and pcm controls in alsamixer.
[01:37] <sabat> vlt: ah ok. I really don't know what reiserfs is, but I know they used it on my server at work, so I was contemplating it.
[01:37] <Flannel> Nick07: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:37] <bart_> Flannel: Good to know
[01:37] <jjnorth> bart_: Um, there are some less-than-reputable news sources that used recent events to push that line.  It's not true, though.
[01:37] <greezmunkey> mmm ice cream :P
[01:37] <eye-zak> jdec: have u looked at all of the cards in alsamixer
[01:37] <sabat> vlt: I've always used ext2/3/4 since I got into linux
[01:37] <kr3w> is there another choice?
[01:37] <jedc> eye-zak, how do I do that?
[01:38] <eye-zak> kr3w: xfs
[01:38] <compaq> oh well, it doesn't even start anymore, now that I enable metacity compositing
[01:38] <pcgeek32147> macscr<<< all the info i have is its a dell mini 10 with a Intel NM10 Express
[01:38] <kr3w> is it better?
[01:38] <kr3w> performance wise
[01:38] <eye-zak> jdec: type h in alsamixer and read the help
[01:38] <jjnorth> Flannel: I got my joke was out of taste, but I hope that last comment was more acceptable...?
[01:38] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: then your not going to get any help
[01:38] <jv_> my xorg.conf does not exist in X11, intel 945 graphics
[01:38] <vlt> sabat: I used reiserfs too but I think nowadays ext3/4 are as good as it.
[01:39] <Scunizi> !xrandr | jv_
[01:39] <eye-zak> kr3w: i have run into the "max # of files" on ext2,3,4 but not xfs
[01:39] <jjnorth> Flannel: Seems the Enquirer has a funny way of making their own headlines.
[01:39] <kr3w> what does that mean?
[01:39] <aprilhare> is there an easy way to install this under ubuntu? http://zfs-fuse.net/
[01:39] <Scunizi> jv_: not only dual screens but everything monitor related
[01:39] <kr3w> real life examples wise
[01:39] <eye-zak> jv_: xorg.conf is now filled in automatically by xorg/udev
[01:40] <pcgeek32147> what more info do you need dude
[01:40] <eye-zak> aprilhare: download and build source ...
[01:40] <jedc> eye-zak, I can get front mic and mic controls with alsamixer -V all, but the only card I can look at is 0
[01:40] <gbear14275> usr13: so I've read the man interfaces page and am a little confused about the correct syntax to use.  I don't understand what the iface and inet does.  (e.g. iface eth0 inet dhcp)
[01:40] <aprilhare> eye-zak, thanks
[01:41] <aprilhare> eye-zak, in other words no there isn't an easy way :)
[01:41] <greezmunkey> iface == interface, inet == tcp/ip
[01:41] <jv_> eye-zak, tx, do you know what file should I edit to disable one of dual monitors?
[01:41] <gbear14275> usr13: if I am trying to configure eth1 to have a static address on boot, I'm assuming dhcp wont be there, but do I need the iface and inet?
[01:41] <eye-zak> jedc, it may not be supported for your card ... not sure
[01:42] <pcgeek32147> macscr<<< all the info i have is its a dell mini 10 with a Intel NM10 Express
[01:42] <pcgeek32147> what more info do you need dude
[01:42] <eye-zak> aprilhare, the instructions are there download install deps and run scons in the source dir
[01:42] <gbear14275> usr13: I've also tried to search the man pages for iface but nothing came back
[01:42] <jv_> I can do it by GUI but one screen is broken...or should I blacklist the driver?
[01:42] <jjnorth> Hey guys, here's a question... does XChat have any way to isolate usernames for responses?
[01:43] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: and i already told you thats not enough information to help you. You need to go into way more detail on your issue. More than likely you need to open up a post on the forums
[01:43] <eye-zak> jv_: xorg.conf, but you only need to add values for the thing you want to change. I don't know what the exact setting is for randr (i have nVidia) but you only need a Device section
[01:43] <eye-zak> jv_: or a screen section if that is where it is for randr
[01:43] <iflema> jjnorth yes. /lastlog nick
[01:43] <Loshki> jjnorth: I've always thought a button which presented a threaded view of all the conversations for a nick would be handy...
[01:43] <jjnorth> iflema: Thank you.  Been searching for that for a bit. :)
[01:44] <jv_> eye-zak, tx, will do
[01:45] <usr13> gbear14275: iface just designates the interface (iface is just short for interface)  "iface eth0" means that you are designating interface eth0 to be what ever it is you want it to be.
[01:45] <sunny0422> hey guys im having trouble with my sound since i just installed ubuntu can anyone help?
[01:45] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Do you know which version you installed?
[01:45] <sunny0422> http://pastie.org/972924
[01:45] <eye-zak> sunny0422: what specifically
[01:46] <sunny0422> the latest version
[01:46] <sunny0422> 10. something
[01:46] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Okay, thanks for that.  What PC do you have (make, model)... do you know if it's 32 or 64-bit... things of that nature...?
[01:47] <sunny0422> 64 bit asus laptop
[01:47] <sunny0422> gaming edition
[01:47] <usr13> gbear14275: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"  Means:  Interface eth0 is set to dhcp.
[01:47] <kr3w> anyone using xchat here?
[01:47] <jjnorth> kr3w: Just about everyone, I'd think... ;)
[01:47] <maelaian> mIRC ftw.
[01:47] <jjnorth> sunny0422: What's it doing / not doing?
[01:48] <sunny0422> its doing nothing
[01:48] <jjnorth> maelaian: I stand corrected.  :)
[01:48] <kr3w> is there a way to do multi-server from commands
[01:48] <kr3w> rather than ctrl+T
[01:48] <sunny0422> all settings seems to be right but its just not playing
[01:48] <kr3w> cause that's really annoying
[01:48] <kr3w> like mirc had /server -m
[01:48] <usr13> gbear14275: in man interfaces, skip down to the line that starts with, "Stanzas defining logical interfaces start with a line consisting of the word  "iface" followed by the name of the logical interface..." and read again.
[01:49] <jjnorth> sunny0422: At all (no login sounds) or only on certain files?
[01:49] <sunny0422> well the sound asus makes when computer turns on is there, but when OS loads nothing
[01:49] <maelaian> jjnorth: Id be using xchat but 10.04 installer seems to be quite a backwards step in terms of working. One thing after another, my 9.x CD works flawlessly no problems. Just put it in hit install and its done.
[01:49] <usr13> gbear14275: Or I should have said, the paragraph that starts with...
[01:49] <sunny0422> http://pastie.org/972926
[01:49] <moetunes> kr3w: you can use /server in xchat
[01:49] <eye-zak> sunny0422, have you chosen the profile in SoundPreferences ->Hardware you need
[01:49] <gbear14275> usr13: was doing so... I think I found it... so to set my static port I would use "iface eth1 inet static" thanks again
[01:50] <sunny0422> no how do i do that
[01:50] <usr13> gbear14275: Yes, that is correct.
[01:50] <kr3w> if i do that then it changes server
[01:50] <kr3w> i dont want that
[01:50] <jjnorth> maelaian: Too true, I'm working on hitting up a Lucid clean install now that I have this pile working again... ;)
[01:50] <kr3w> i want multi
[01:50] <sean___> nah
[01:50] <kr3w> irssi does multi server with /server
[01:50] <kr3w> not xchat :/
[01:50] <moetunes> kr3w: afaik it just adds a server - doesn't remove any
[01:51] <kr3w> let me see again
[01:51] <Scunizi> kr3w: xchat will do multi server .. so will Qaussel.. but irssi is fantastic.. Weechat is suppose to be as good depending on who you talk to.
[01:51] <kr3w> no it doesn't add on /server
[01:52] <kr3w> it disconnects the current
[01:52] <kr3w> then goes to the other one
[01:52] <kr3w> seems like the only way to
[01:52] <usr13> gbear14275: As you can see [in man interfaces] you can also designate gateway and netmask as well, so ...
[01:52] <kr3w> ctrl+t
[01:52] <kr3w> :/
[01:52] <FloodBot3> kr3w: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <sunny0422> im in system settings, multimedia, and i see my audio drives (HDA Intel (ALC663 Analog))
[01:52] <moetunes> kr3w: from the menubar - xchat - new - server tab
[01:52] <eye-zak> sunny0422, click sound icon ->sound preferences->hardware tab select your sound card and choose from the box at the bottom .. try digital vs analog
[01:52] <Scunizi> kr3w: I"m on kde right now so I can't give you the steps.. but instead of /server try /connect
[01:52] <sunny0422> when i click test nothing happens
[01:52] <jjnorth> sunny0422: System > Preferences > Sound, Hardware tab, should have...
[01:52] <kr3w> okay lets try that one
[01:52] <jjnorth> eye-zak got it
[01:53] <kr3w> nope
[01:53] <kr3w> doesnt work on /connect either
[01:53] <Scunizi> kr3w: probably what moetunes said.. sounds familure
[01:53] <eye-zak> sunny0422, i had possibly similar issue, but if your usb is working than it's not the same
[01:53] <kr3w> yeah i know that way, my original question was from command
[01:53] <kr3w> i know the menu option
[01:53] <sunny0422> eye-zak: i tested all 4 nothing yet
[01:53] <sabat> vlt: ok, took a while to format :) but I now have 1.9tb free on that drive. TY!
[01:53] <kr3w> and i know the keyboard shortcut too
[01:54] <sunny0422> eye-zak: usb working fine actually
[01:54] <kr3w> was wanting something similar to /server -m in mIRC
[01:54] <Scunizi> kr3w: ah.. then it is capable just not the way you want to use it.. it's tough when you're use to irssi
[01:54] <kr3w> yeah irssi is too pwnage :/
[01:54] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run dmesg | grep hda_intel and see if there are errors /post to pastie
[01:55] <kr3w> irssi craps up DCC resumes though
[01:55] <Scunizi> kr3w: there are scripts that will make it look like mIRC if you want..
[01:55] <sunny0422> eye-zak: i have 4 options, HDA Intel ALC663 Analog, HDA Intel ALC663 Digital, HDA Intel ALC663 Digital IEC958... , Jack Audio Connection Kit
[01:55] <sunny0422> eye-zak: Ok leme do that
[01:55] <whiter> im trying to modify the command ran on a menu item (skpe) by starting it with this command "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && skype" how can i edit the ubuntu applications menu entry to reflect that? when i just type it in the "command" field it fails to start
[01:55] <leader> hi all
[01:56] <kr3w> .le: yo
[01:56] <kr3w> hmm
[01:56] <Scunizi> sunny0422: analog if you have standard speakers
[01:56] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Might this be related? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480429
[01:56] <eye-zak> sunny0422, i'm not sure you're looking in the right place there are thing like 'Analog Stereo'
[01:56] <kr3w> how does the nick complete work?
[01:56] <moetunes> whiter: tried to do it without the   &&   ?
[01:56] <Scunizi> kr3w: type the first few characters and hit TAB
[01:56] <whiter> i need the && though
[01:57] <kr3w> ah got it
[01:57] <jjnorth> sunny0422: "Profiles" should be right below the hardware devices you just listed off.
[01:57] <kr3w> Scunizi: think it's good
[01:57] <kr3w> hah
[01:57] <kr3w> lol
[01:57] <Scunizi> kr3w: yep! :)
[01:57] <moetunes> whiter: that should be one command tho
[01:57] <eye-zak> jjnorth, not sure
[01:57] <sunny0422> jjnorth: i cant find hardware devices one sec leme give u a screen shot
[01:58] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Thanks, that's immensely helpful.  :)
[01:58] <whiter> no, it's two. i export that value, then start skype
[01:58] <Mixxit> onetinsoldier, hey im at the point where my drivers are installed and im wondering about glx :-)
[01:58] <kr3w> okay this is annoying, i really wanna do multi server from command line :/
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: roger. did you install mesa-utils? try.. glxinf
[01:58] <moetunes> whiter: you export the value for the command skype afaik
[01:58] <Mixxit> i did bud
[01:58] <Mixxit> get a big table
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: glxinfo
[01:59] <whiter> if i remove the && it doesn't work either.
[01:59] <moetunes> whiter: you said it doesn't work i\for a launch...
[01:59] <Inu> upgraded from koala to lynx and network is disabled. no ping, updates, nothing. ifconfig -a shows modem and says interrupt 29. it sees the modem but can't access it. tried going to system>admin>hardware drivers when i click on that i get 'can't connect to dbus' error message... help?
[01:59] <whiter> when i click Skype in the menu, it doesn't work.
[01:59] <unop> whiter, create a script and place that in your ~/bin/ directory?
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: ok, roger.. what does it say near the very top?  for -->  direct rendering:
[01:59] <whiter> i just want to start skype that way, is there no way to do it?
[02:00] <whiter> through the menu?
[02:00] <iflema> whiter out it in ya .bashrc file
[02:00] <eye-zak> Inu: try logging out and back in or restarting, dbus should not give that error
[02:00] <whiter> right.
[02:00] <Mixxit> onetinsoldier, : http://www.pastebin.org/268783
[02:00] <unop> whiter, a script allows you to do whatever you want before launching skype
[02:00] <whiter> yes but im not trying to write a script
[02:00] <whiter> for one command
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: no. you don't have it. no glx
[02:00] <Inu> eye-zak, I've restarted like 5 times, cause i have to go on windows to get support here lol.
[02:00] <unop> whiter, fine, suit yourself
[02:00] <Mixxit> ok what package do i need to install?
[02:01] <Inu> same thing happens
[02:01] <whiter> i just want to click the Skype icon in my menu and have it start. i shouldn't have to write a script to do that i dont think..
[02:01] <Inu> i think i may have installed wrong but don't know where
[02:02] <eye-zak> Inu: haven't worked with modems in ubuntu, but hardware-drivers is jockey-gtk
[02:02] <Mixxit> nvidia-glx-96?
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: i don't know. i'm not really that knowledgeable with X
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: try running it again after doing this command --> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[02:02] <sunny0422> flickr stinks
[02:03] <moetunes> whiter: does right clicking the menu let you edit it?
[02:03] <sunny0422> takes freeking forever
[02:03] <whiter> yes it does
[02:03] <Inu> If i just delete everything and reinstall do you think it would fix it?
[02:03] <unop> whiter, not all scripts do complex, arcane things like cure world poverty or rid it off cancer - they can be used for just the kind of requirements you have -- a single line wrapper that deviates from the norm.
[02:03] <whiter> im aware of that.
[02:03] <moetunes> !who | whiter
[02:03] <sunny0422> http://www.flickr.com/photos/50501663@N08/4630746438/
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: you'd probably be best off asking the channel how to get it working. let them know what video card you have, and what nvidia driver you have installed, ect.
[02:04] <Mixxit> okies
[02:04] <Mixxit> one sec just trying this other driver
[02:04] <Mixxit> and thanks man!
[02:05] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: sure, you're welcome
[02:05] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Oy, okay, Kubuntu.
[02:05] <kr3w> kubuntu was so garbage.
[02:05] <kr3w> felt like killing myself after a day
[02:05] <jjnorth> kr3w: Not that I disagree, but someone's still using it and can use some help.  ;)
[02:05] <rascal999> i have an nfsroot serving os to clients, i'd like to make it read only, how do i do this?
[02:05] <whiter> unop: i'm aware of that. but in the menu editor theres a field that says "Command:" why cant i just put what i want it to do there? versus writing a script.
[02:05] <kr3w> yeah haha
[02:05] <manchester> Try xubuntu fast as lightning
[02:06] <usr13> kr3w: So, you
[02:06] <sunny0422> jjnorth: its just different interface right?
[02:06] <kr3w> i tried xubuntu for a day too
[02:06] <iflema> whiter if you type the export command into a terminal, does skype work fot the rest of the session, without it/until next reboot?
[02:06] <usr13> kr3w: So, you're saying you don't much like KDE?
[02:06] <kr3w> was worst than the kubuntu
[02:06] <kr3w> :/
[02:06] <jjnorth> sunny0422: And different tools...
[02:06] <whiter> iflema: yes
[02:06] <bazhang> !ot
[02:06] <sunny0422> jjnorth: oh, how do i fix this problem in my os?
[02:06] <kr3w> usr13: i don't like it, nope, sorry!
[02:06] <iflema> whiter so put the export command in ya .bashrc file.... the way its supposed to be done
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: just in case you need to find out what nvidia packages you have installed, do --> dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^ii
[02:07] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Not sure offhand, but I'm looking for equivalents now.
[02:07] <goundy> eye-zak, it's thunderbird 3 man... he's messing up my system...
[02:07] <Mixxit> looks like i installed the normal non glx driver
[02:07] <Mixxit> brb gnna reboot now this is installed
[02:07] <airtonix> iflema, actually "the way its supposed to be done"... /cough
[02:07] <goundy> How to keep tb 2 ?
[02:07] <sunny0422> jjnorth: thanks a lot mate
[02:07] <Inu> eye-zak >	If i just delete everything and reinstall do you think it would fix it?
[02:07] <usr13> kr3w: Well, stick with what you like....
[02:07] <jjnorth> sunny0422: No problem.
[02:07] <eye-zak> goundy, hmm never used thunderbird ...
[02:07] <sunny0422> jjnorth: btw would it solve the problem if i just reinstall with simple ubuntu?
[02:07] <goundy> eye-zak, what do you use for mails?
[02:07] <kr3w> usr13: trust me, i did. used all 3 for a day and my choice has been made
[02:07] <jjnorth> Inu: I think it'd mess up more than it might help, but I'll hold off on anything final until eye-zak comments.
[02:07] <eye-zak> Inu: that's about all i can suggest, do nothing special in the install .. get it to boot and then have at it
[02:08] <eye-zak> goundy, nothing client-side
[02:08] <jjnorth> OH, wait, modem install?
[02:08] <kr3w> usr13: the amount of modifications i had to make to each to make it look the way i enjoy, GNOME was the best
[02:08] <goundy> eye-zak, okay ;)
[02:08] <airtonix> iflema, is it not true that the bashrc file is only read when you first open a terminal after logging in ?
[02:08] <Inu> yeah, jjjnorth
[02:08] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I'm confusing myself now, I'll stop butting in.  ;)
[02:08] <Inu> my modem is like disabled or something
[02:08] <bart_> has anyone out there gotten a X-Fi extreme Audio to work?
[02:08] <eye-zak> jjnorth, lol
[02:08] <usr13> kr3w: xfce is pretty good.
[02:08] <kr3w> yeah it was
[02:09] <kr3w> better than KDE
[02:09] <iflema> airtonix no
[02:09] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It'd help relevance to this channel, but I don't see where it'd necessarily fix the sound card.
[02:09] <sunny0422> yea im having the same feeling, KDE sucks, too heavy as well might as well do simple Gnome
[02:09] <jjnorth> sunny0422: So I'd hold off for the moment.
[02:10] <sunny0422> jjnorth: ok
[02:10] <jjnorth> sunny0422: I'm gonna guess and say "Multimedia" here.
[02:10] <onetinsoldier> kde is very pretty though
[02:10] <eye-zak> sunny0422, if you want to install gnome apps, you can install pavucontrol
[02:10] <usr13> kr3w: We have been told to take such discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:10] <kr3w> we have? by who? "|
[02:10] <unop> airtonix, when you open a terminal yes .. but it is called from ~/.bash_profile which is sourced when you open a login shell i.e. log in at the terminal
[02:10] <whiter> well i dont know what to put in .bashrc which is why i was trying to avoid that
[02:10] <whiter> but thanks anyway
[02:10] <toolbear> help!  made custom ubuntu live cd, but it can't detect hard disk!  what can i do to fix this problem?
[02:10] <sunny0422> eye-zak: gotcha
[02:11] <airtonix> unop, iflema ah which is not the ~/.bashrc
[02:11] <bart_> toolbear: what kind of hard disk?
[02:11] <jjnorth> eye-zak: You have a KDE history, I take it. ;)
[02:11] <eye-zak> sunny0422, that is the official pulseaudio sound control tool
[02:11] <usr13> toolbear: What kind of hard disk do you have?
[02:11] <airtonix> unop, iflema https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent%20environment%20variables
[02:11] <sunny0422> eye-zak: think i should try and install it?
[02:11] <unop> airtonix, ~/.bashrc is called when you open a terminal and sourced from ~/.bash_profile
[02:11] <sangho> can i install MS Offfice 2010 with wine in 10.04?
[02:11] <usr13> toolbear: What do you see in the output of   fdisk -l
[02:12] <usr13> toolbear: What do you see in the output of  sudo fdisk -l
[02:12] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It can't hurt at this point.
[02:12] <eye-zak> jjnorth, no only i like simple and clean ... qt is not that .. but even nautilus with multitabs has way too many outlines for me
[02:12] <kr3w> sangho: office 2k10 doesn't work yet
[02:12] <toolbear> bart_, usr13: a SATA (7200 rpm magnetic disk)
[02:12] <eye-zak> sunny0422, yes it will work
[02:12] <sangho> thx :)
[02:12] <bart_> toolbear: are you using an on-board raid controller?
[02:12] <sunny0422> eye-zak: ok installing it noe
[02:12] <gartral> sangho: you will need to port some files from a working windows installation, it's not well supported, but can work
[02:12] <toolbear> usr13: i put it up at http://paste.linuxassist.net/215277
[02:12] <sunny0422> jjnorth: yea i would think not lol
[02:12] <sangho> ok
[02:12] <kr3w> gartral: you got it working? or know how? i haven't found anything yet! inform us
[02:13] <sangho> i`ll search for it
[02:13] <gbear14275> usr13: did you get my pm's?
[02:13] <sunny0422> jjnorth: with gnome i had easier time managing compiz as well, i hear KDE comes with it but i cant seem to find that either
[02:13] <toolbear> bart_: no.  i guess my hardware is capable of this, but i have it turned off in the BIOS
[02:13] <goundy> ubuntu 10.04. I remove mysql from ALL boot levels... it still loads when ubuntu starts... wtf ?
[02:13] <abdellatif> hi all
[02:13] <sunny0422> eye-zak: ok installed
[02:13] <unop> airtonix, iflema - you're right about not placing it in ~/.bashrc though - ~/.profile is the appropriate place for env. vars. that need to affect a graphical session
[02:13] <gbear14275> goundy: cd still in?
[02:13] <eye-zak> goundy, see /etc/init/mysql<something>.conf
[02:13] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:13] <goundy> gbear14275, I don't get your question :=)
[02:13] <bart_> toolbear: good... it took me 2 days to hack my way through a dm raid installation
[02:13] <goundy> eye-zak, ah, am having a look at it
[02:13] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run pavucontrol
[02:13] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:13] <kr3w> abdellatif: you might have to install ubuntu-tweak
[02:14] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:14] <eye-zak> goundy, the new upstart jobs
[02:14] <kr3w> dumbass.
[02:14] <jjnorth> goundy: He's asking if your install disc is still in the PC.
[02:14] <gbear14275> goundy: do you have a boot disk/drive still connected
[02:14] <bart_> toolbear: dmraid*
[02:14] <sunny0422> eye-zak: when i run it i get error saying Connection failed: connection refused
[02:14] <airtonix> unop, it says there its executed upon gdm login and text login.
[02:14] <goundy> gbear14275, no I don't
[02:14] <usr13> toolbear: It says "authorization required"
[02:14] <goundy> eye-zak, the new ubstart jobs hmmm
[02:15] <eye-zak> sunny0422, hmm no pulseaudio on dbus ... sorry but no KDE experience so can't help but suggest #kubuntu channel or install gnome
[02:15] <jjnorth> eye-zak re: sunny0422: Hardware issue?
[02:15] <toolbear> usr13, bart_: anyways, it is detecting my usb drive without any problem, but i don't even have /dev/sdb (/dev/sda is now the usb drive) or /dev/hda
[02:15] <usr13> toolbear: Try pastebin.com
[02:15] <bart_> toolbear: is this a brabd new disk? or are there other partitions on it already
[02:15] <eye-zak> goundy, see upstart-job wiki
[02:15] <kr3w> how good does ext4 run under RAID 0?
[02:15] <sunny0422> eye-zak: cant be it was running fine on windows
[02:15] <goundy> eye-zak, thanks ;)
[02:15] <unop> airtonix, errm no..  "~/.bash_profile or ~./bash_login - If one of these file exist, bash executes it rather then "~/.profile" ..."  -- the bash manpage concurs too
[02:15] <kr3w> especially if the hardware is already amazing
[02:15] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run pactl list from the command line
[02:15] <kr3w> going from single disk that is
[02:15] <toolbear> usr13: um, really?  i thought it gave a pop-up just saying that you are supposed to type in "linux" for both usr and password.  anyways, i'll put it at pastebin
[02:15] <whiter> iflema: what would i put in .bashrc just "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" ?
[02:16] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Well that failed, I meant to address that comment to eye-zak about a possible hardware issue.
[02:16] <eye-zak> sunny0422, it's not hardware, your card shows up in alsa and kernel pci
[02:16] <gartral> kr3w: IF it works anything like 2007 did, you need many of the mscvp dlls from windows (master service controls) and also i forget where, but theres a directory of DLLs that handle encrypted file executions
[02:16] <jjnorth> sunny0422: And subsequently answered.
[02:16] <unop> whiter, i wouldn't suggest doing that -- as this variable will be set for ALL your programs and that could be problematic
[02:16] <Nick07> hello
[02:16] <jahc> I got a question.. does Ubuntu Netbook remix still have that default netbook style UI that cant be switched over to the full desktop style UI?
[02:16] <kr3w> gartral: i installed office 2k7 right from installation files from latest stock wine
[02:16] <whiter> well unop, what should i do?
[02:16] <Nick07> im having a bad day with grub
[02:16] <kr3w> gartral: this was yesterday, made 0 modifications
[02:16] <charlieS> jahc: you could always switch it to the normal gnome desktop.
[02:16] <jahc> UNR 9.04 was perfect because I could turn off the netbook style UI
[02:17] <sunny0422> urg.. leme just install ubuntu, life would be easier brb in 10 mins
[02:17] <toolbear> bart_: about 1/2 year old, there are other partitions.  in fact, ubuntu (lucid) does recognize the hard disk, but only on the "official" live cd and on my hard disk installation.  i'm using a different live cd now, one that i put mostly the same packages on as I have on my hard disk install
[02:17] <jahc> when i upgraded to 9.10 I couldnt figure out how to change back to the normal UI
[02:17] <jjnorth> sunny0422: One sec
[02:17] <Nick07> could use the help
[02:17] <jahc> now I want to get the latest 10.x whatever it is :) I dont want to waste time. should I grab the netbook remix or the standard version? my netbook has a 7" screen
[02:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Might alsa be interfering somehow?
[02:17] <gartral> kr3w: last time i screwed around with all that, i had a pre 1.0 wine
[02:17] <myrl> hi
[02:17] <kr3w> just out of curiosity, is there any way to make window transparent when i move it in GNOME?
[02:18] <Anacleto> Help, i can't get more resolution on my monitor.....
[02:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth, no clue not enough info at this point
[02:18] <kr3w> gartral: under the latest, it's very cleaned up, try it out
[02:18] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I know it's out of left field, but if this is an upgrade in place...
[02:18] <eye-zak> kr3w, what window manager
[02:18] <Nick07> try to fix the boot problem but no go
[02:18] <kr3w> eye-zak: compiz
[02:18] <kr3w> eye-zak: and emerald
[02:18] <cornbreadly> I have a quick sd card reader question.  Are some card readers limited to what size media they can read?  I have a 2gb that is fine and a 4gb that doesnt show.  lsusb finds the reader.
[02:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth, could be incompatible alsa state
[02:18] <unop> whiter, well, there's two things - 1. edit the .desktop file for skype (/usr/share/applications/skype.desktop) and change the Exec= string  or 2. create a script in ~/bin/ that runs your command
[02:18] <sunny0422> jjnorth: btw is ubuntu ultimate edition considered ubuntu itself?
[02:18] <gartral> kr3w: i HATE MS products, if a workplace needs it, i load it in a vm under xp.
[02:18] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is a plugin for that in compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:18] <kr3w> gartral: ah you walk around with that bias, okay then
[02:18] <bazhang> sunny0422, no
[02:18] <myrl> kr3w idk
[02:19] <kr3w> eye-zak: thanks!
[02:19] <Nick07> need grub help 10.04 lts
[02:19] <sunny0422> bazhang: DAM!
[02:19] <toolbear> usr13: ok, http://pastebin.com/2g8dMGmx
[02:19] <jjnorth> sunny0422:
[02:19] <Nick07> please
[02:19] <jjnorth> Whoops, sorry.
[02:19] <gartral> kr3w: what can Office 2010 do that openoffice cant?
[02:19] <whiter> unop: does the .desktop file also apply to the Skype entry in the Applications menu? because thats where i launch it from.
[02:19] <jjnorth> sunny0422: If you run 'xterm -e alsamixer' what do you get?
[02:19] <kr3w> eye-zak: do you know what the plugin/setting is called? i can't spot it
[02:19] <eye-zak> gartral, cost $$$
[02:19] <bazhang> gartral, kr3w #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:19] <airtonix> gartral, save it in a format that openoffice cant open
[02:20] <eye-zak> kr3w, Move
[02:20] <sunny0422> this wierd looking volume control
[02:20] <kr3w> move where?
[02:20] <sunny0422> ill take a screenshot
[02:20] <eye-zak> kr3w, "Move Window" under Window Management
[02:20] <unop> whiter, yes, the menu entry runs the .desktop file actually -- which in turn calls the skype program (as set out in the Exec= line in the .desktop file)
[02:20] <kr3w> oh lol
[02:20] <whiter> unop: thanks
[02:21] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Master, Headphon, and PCM are all filled in (at least partially)?
[02:21] <sunny0422> jjnorth: yes
[02:21] <MACscr> hmm, anyone ever mess with their freedesktop.org.xml file so that they can modify syntax recognition in gedit? I just make a change to make .tpl use php syntax, then ran  sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime, but there still is no syntax highlighting going on
[02:21] <jjnorth> sunny0422: If you hit F6, what choices appear?
[02:21] <kr3w> eye-zak: it's on, not doing it though, i tried compiz --replace already ... any other ideas?
[02:22] <eye-zak> kr3w, you set Opacity to less than 100 ?
[02:22] <sunny0422> default, 0 HDA Intel , enter device name...
[02:22] <whiter> unop: just to test, i changed the application the .desktop file should launch, and i clicked the menu entry. it still launched skype...
[02:22] <kr3w> eye-zak: *slaps self*
[02:22] <bart_> toolbar: if you load gparted or the disk utility does it see the disk?
[02:22] <usr13> toolbear: Well, it appears you were wrong.  It does seem to be recognizing one hard disk drive: "/dev/sda: 4007 MB, 4007624704 bytes"
[02:22] <toolbear> bart_: nope
[02:22] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Okay, so down arrow key to "0 HDA Intel" and hit enter, the first three bars are mostly solid?
[02:22] <kr3w> eye-zak: there it goes
[02:22] <toolbear> usr13: no, that's my usb drive!
[02:22] <unop> whiter, what should it have launched instead?
[02:23] <whiter> eclipse
[02:23] <eye-zak> kr3w, and lots of fun ensues
[02:23] <sunny0422> yes
[02:23] <sunny0422> jjnorth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50501663@N08/4630784076/
[02:23] <kr3w> eye-zak: it's more of a whatever feature that i wanted to further spite KDE
[02:23] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, http://www.pastebin.org/268854
[02:23] <usr13> toolbear: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[02:23] <jjnorth> sunny0422: I know this is getting redundant, but no "MM" on any of those bars?
[02:23] <bart_> toolbar: does an unmodified live cd see the drive propperly?
[02:23] <toolbear> usr13: desktop
[02:23] <unop> whiter, did you change the menu entry at all? such as editing it while trying things out?
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: well, you have it now!
[02:23] <eye-zak> kr3w, try the following focus transparency it really works now, and can blacklist media players and such
[02:23] <whiter> unop: no
[02:24] <sunny0422> i sent u the screen shot, some have mm some dont
[02:24] <mixxit> woohoo!
[02:24] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Oh wow, headphones not showing up... hrm, shouldn't be an issue though...
[02:24] <mixxit> thanks!
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: congrats :-)
[02:24] <usr13> toolbear: So it's an sata drive?
[02:24] <mixxit> so i am good for gl now?
[02:24] <kr3w> eye-zak: don't understand
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: yes
[02:24] <toolbear> usr13: ok, now i've taken out my flash drive, here's what happens: "root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fdisk -l
[02:24] <toolbear> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[02:24] <toolbear> "
[02:24] <mixxit> fantastic!
[02:24] <toolbear> usr13: yep
[02:24] <whiter> unop: i see what the problem is..
[02:24] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Well, that should do it, have you tried opening a local music file?
[02:24] <unop> whiter, what does the Exec line say in the .desktop file now?
[02:24] <unop> whiter, you do?
[02:25] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is a plugin that increases transparency of windows as you switch from them to new ones
[02:25] <whiter> unop: yes. i edited it earlier, but i clicked revert to original and it changed to eclipse.
[02:25] <sunny0422> the radio is playing already with amrok
[02:25] <airtonix> eye-zak, its not a dedicated plugin that does that.
[02:25] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Escape to close that alsamixer, incidentally.  ;)
[02:25] <sunny0422> no sound tho
[02:25] <xangua> eye-zak: yes, install compiz settings manager to configure them
[02:25] <eye-zak> kr3w, Trailfocus
[02:25] <unop> whiter, right, so things are working as expected now?
[02:25]  * o_a está ausente: Ausente no momento
[02:25] <jjnorth> sunny0422: hrm... could be a codec issue...
[02:25] <kr3w> eye-zak: don't have that one
[02:25] <usr13> toolbear: Could there be a hardware problem?  Is the drive plugged in good?  Is the data cable plugged in and the power cable as well?
[02:25] <kr3w> eye-zak: under window management?
[02:26] <airtonix> kr3w, you need to install more compiz plugins
[02:26] <eye-zak> kr3w, maybe install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[02:26] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It was working in Karmic, right?
[02:26]  * o_a voltou.
[02:26] <goundy> eye-zak, I've read the wiki page, doesn't say much it says to read man initctl, and the man doesn't say how to remove mysql from autostart ^^
[02:26] <eye-zak> kr3w, under Effects
[02:26] <unop> !boot | goundy
[02:26] <sunny0422> ok i see the problem
[02:26] <eye-zak> goundy, remove mysql.conf in /etc/init and make sure u did update-rc.d -f remove mysql
[02:26] <sunny0422> the sound is playing through laptops player
[02:26] <sunny0422> but
[02:26] <kr3w> eye-zak: trailfocus right
[02:27] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, omg it works!
[02:27] <sunny0422> its not playing when i plug something in
[02:27] <eye-zak> goundy, but that is really hackish
[02:27] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, legend matey thanks
[02:27] <eye-zak> kr3w, enjoy
[02:27] <sunny0422> im guessing a different device is not being caught
[02:27] <mixxit> have a great night all, one happy user here :)
[02:27] <goundy> eye-zak, I removed mysql.conf now, and yes I kicked it from rc I hop it's gonna work. Thank you man
[02:27] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Yeah, the alsamixer results seemed to indicate that nothing's showing up on that headphone jack.
[02:27] <kr3w> eye-zak: holy crap!
[02:27] <whiter> unop: now it says "Failed to execute child process "export" (No such file or directory)" which is my original problem
[02:27] <eye-zak> kr3w, lol
[02:27] <sunny0422> jjnorth: how do i fix that?
[02:27] <kr3w> eye-zak: dude! like
[02:27] <sunny0422> jjnorth: drivers needed?
[02:27] <kr3w> WOW
[02:27] <unop> whiter, what does the Exec line say in the .desktop file now?  "export" only applies to bash
[02:28] <kr3w> am i too easily impressed or is that impressive
[02:28] <toolbear> usr13: it's possible, but there never has been a hardware problem, and there wasn't one before i booted into this live cd...
[02:28] <eye-zak> kr3w, it was buggy for a while but suprise, suprise it is really good in lucid
[02:28] <whiter> unop: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && skype
[02:28] <unop> whiter,  no, you would change the Exec line to something like.   Exec=XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:29] <eye-zak> unop, whiter i think you need env VAR=value in a desktop file
[02:29] <unop> eye-zak, you can set one prior to invoking the command
[02:29] <whiter> unop: that doesn't work.
[02:30] <compaq> Alright, I am coming back to ubuntu, I can't get flash playing in debian
[02:30] <whiter> eye-zak: i dont know what to put
[02:30] <kr3w> eye-zak: dude thank you for telling me that, it's very cool
[02:30] <goundy> eye-zak, ... I removed /etc/init/mysql.conf and it's fucked up... Mysql doesn't start anymore :'(
[02:30] <goundy> start: Unknown job: mysql
[02:30] <SirStan> Has anyone hacked the dell latitude "on" system to do anything cool?
[02:30] <unop> whiter, does this work from the shell?   XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:30] <goundy> man... what have I done ?
[02:30] <eye-zak> whiter, env XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:30] <cornbreadly> where can I go to trouble shoot a card reader?  Ubuntuforums people havent replied yet.
[02:30] <whiter> unop: no. but it does with export in front of it
[02:31] <unop> whiter, no, forget the export, that only applies to bash
[02:31] <eye-zak> goundy, sorry i thought that was your goal, reinstall mysql to get it back, use update-rc.d to manage runlevels i think
[02:31] <eye-zak> unop: do .desktop files run in a shell, i thought they didn't
[02:31] <goundy> eye-zak, If I reinstall it I lose all my tables...
[02:31] <unop> whiter, i just tried this command out - and it works fine.
[02:31] <cba123> I installed Tracker on Lucid, and I can't seem to get it started.  Even when I enable indexing, it doesn't start at all.  Any ideas?
[02:32] <goundy> eye-zak, you fucked me up :)
[02:32] <eye-zak> goundy, you can extract the file from the mysql package using dpkg -x <package>.deb destdir
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> goundy: do --> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.1
[02:32] <whiter> unop: works from the shell, doesn't work in the .desktop file.
[02:32] <goundy> onetinsoldier, it's gonna keep my tables ?
[02:32] <goundy> *databases
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> goundy: sorry, just read you'd lose you stuff
[02:32] <eye-zak> goundy, if it's not in /var/cache/apt/archives use apt-get -d install --reinstall mysql
[02:33] <eye-zak> goundy, this will download but not install mysql
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> goundy: i don't know if you lose tham or not. do you know the filenames they are stored in?
[02:33] <toolbear> usr13: ok, i'm now on ubuntu booted from my hard drive, so there is no hardware problem
[02:33] <goundy> no idea
[02:33] <goundy> ...
[02:33] <goundy> guys nevermind I'm pissed off... I'll look after this later...
[02:33] <goundy> Honnestly, canonical is starting doing shit here
[02:33] <goundy> karmic was really good
[02:33] <bazhang> goundy, watch the language
[02:33] <goundy> Now.... lucid stuff... that's a bullshit
[02:33] <goundy> sorry
[02:33] <FloodBot3> goundy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <jjnorth> sunny0422: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/450702
[02:34]  * goundy is gonna shut up
[02:34] <jjnorth> sunny0422: looks familiar
[02:34] <whiter> eye-zak: worked. thanks.
[02:34] <whiter> unop: i got it man, nevermind..
[02:34] <kr3w> lucid is technically still in RC right?
[02:34] <bazhang> kr3w, no
[02:34] <whiter> unop: thanks
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> goundy: hey. keep in mind it's not Lucid's fault you deleted /etc/init/mysql.conf  ;-)
[02:34] <jjnorth> sunny0422: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*
[02:34] <kr3w> thought i saw that on the ubuntu website
[02:34] <unop> whiter, yea?   I was just going to suggest changing Terminal=1 in the .desktop file
[02:34] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Then post the results to a pastebin or something.
[02:34] <bazhang> kr3w, check the topic in this channel
[02:35] <goundy> onetinsoldier, no I know, but why adding this upstart thing ? which works for mysql and not postgresql yet
[02:35] <whiter> unop: i wasnt being very clear sorry
[02:35] <goundy> I mean why adding complication to linux ?
[02:35] <unop> whiter, what was the problem?  just so I know.
[02:35] <goundy> This isn't how we're gonna end up with a Linux that is as user friendly as proprietary software</TROLL>
[02:35] <whiter> unop: i just needed to set that enviornment variable before starting skype. env did it.
[02:35] <onetinsoldier> goundy: roger. i hear you. i don't have the answers
[02:35] <goundy> heh
[02:35] <kr3w> hmm i see it is released, okay
[02:35] <goundy> I guess, that's the way it is
[02:35] <kr3w> i guess that's what the kernel update was
[02:36] <unop> whiter, well, if you've exported the variable very generally -- it can affect other applications, like i said already, and be problematic
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> goundy: there is a way to get that .conf file out of the .deb package
[02:37] <whiter> unop: nothing else seems to work..
[02:37] <goundy> onetinsoldier, I asked somebody to give me his. I'm trying it to see if it goes on
[02:37] <toolbear> usr13: actually, i'm now running the live cd in qemu, and it can detect the hard disk just fine...(i'm using "qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /dev/sda")
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> goundy: roger, good luck
[02:37] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Dammit, looked like there might be a solution, too. :(
[02:37] <goundy> onetinsoldier, it worked !
[02:37] <toolbear> usr13: so, evidently, the live cd works just fine when it's in an emulator, but not when i actually boot off of it...
[02:37] <goundy> ouuuh... I'm relax now
[02:37] <goundy> thanks for all guys
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> goundy: sweet :-)
[02:38] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Well, if Sunny comes back, looks like it's a conflict with slmodemd.
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> lol
[02:38] <kr3w> does ubuntu boot off usb stick?
[02:38] <goundy> thank you onetinsoldier
[02:38] <goundy> ;)
[02:38] <kr3w> very curious
[02:38] <eye-zak> jjnorth, ok not even a clue what that is
[02:38] <usr13> toolbear: Hummm... not sure what to make of that...
[02:38] <xangua> !usb | kr3w
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> goundy: you're welcome. cheers :)
[02:38] <bazhang> kr3w, yes unetbootin
[02:38] <goundy> :)
[02:38] <pokeh> Hey! I use Gnome-Do and Rythmbox. Specifically, the Gnome-Do function to search for and play Rythmbox songs. It has indexed the songs, they are searchable, except all the songs are *wrong*. Let's say I tell Gnome-Do to play "Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da" by the Beatles. Instead, rythmbox will play some other (consistent) random song, like different artist, everything. Anyone know why this is/how to fix?
[02:38] <jjnorth> eye-zak: soft-modem driver.  Useless if you don't ever use dial-up.
[02:38] <toolbear> usr13: well, thanks for your help anyways
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: sure. if your hardware supports booting from a usb stick
[02:39] <eye-zak> kr3w, it boots off of a usb stick if u just install it on the stick
[02:39] <kr3w> also i don't understand how my ubuntu is taking up 89 gigs :/
[02:39] <unop> whiter,  let me try this out on my .desktop file
[02:39]  * jjnorth blinks
[02:39] <whiter> unop: k
[02:39] <xangua> pokeh: no idea, the latest time i tried do worked fine, have you asked in #gnome-do channel''¿
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: that's pretty unusual. are you sure? you might be looking at something wrong
[02:40] <pokeh> xangua: Didn't know there was an IRC for it! Is it on freenode?
[02:40] <eye-zak> kr3w, very unusual
[02:40] <kr3w> right click file system drive, click properties, says it at the bottom
[02:40] <jjnorth> kr3w: Is that using one drive for everything, or downloading the whole of the repositories?
[02:40] <kr3w> right place to check?
[02:40] <ScatterBrain> guys/gals, how does one adjust the screen resolution in Lucid?  I no longer can find "System/Preferences/Display".
[02:40] <kr3w> this is my pure nix drive
[02:40] <usr13> kr3w: You sure?  What does df say?   Or, df -h
[02:40] <kr3w> everything related is used for this
[02:40] <whiter> does anyone know if all Core 2 Duo's are 64 bit?
[02:40] <xangua> ScatterBrain: sys>prefs>monitor¿
[02:41] <eye-zak> whiter, afaik only core duo's were 32 bit
[02:41] <whiter> thats what i thought
[02:41] <kr3w> 10.1 nvm
[02:41] <jjnorth> kr3w: Sure there's not a decimal in there somewhere?
[02:41] <kr3w> k
[02:41] <ScatterBrain> xangua: thanks.
[02:41] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: run this command and tell me what it says at the bottom of the 'Used' column --> df --total -h
[02:41] <kr3w> this thing is worst at counting than windows
[02:41] <jjnorth> kr3w: Nevermind, lol.
[02:41] <kr3w> maybe cause of the swap partition
[02:41] <usr13> kr3w: Are you talking about how much Hard Drive space is actually being used?  (Or how much you've allocated for the OS...)
[02:41] <whiter> eye-zak: someone told me it was 64 but i wasnt aware
[02:41] <kr3w> it's a 500 gig drive, reads 441 total
[02:41] <kr3w> where'd the rest go?
[02:42] <kr3w> swap?
[02:42] <jjnorth> SAE > Metric.
[02:42] <usr13> kr3w: What does   df -h    say?
[02:42] <jjnorth> Or however that goes.
[02:42] <eye-zak> whiter, i switched my laptop from core duo to core 2 duo for the x64
[02:42] <kr3w> usr13: don't understand how to get to that or do that
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: run this command and tell me what it says at the bottom of the 'Used' column --> df --total -h
[02:42] <usr13> kr3w: Open a terminal window and type    df -h    and hit enter.
[02:42] <kr3w> /dev/sdb1             442G   11G  410G   3% /
[02:43] <jjnorth> onetinsoldier: Surely, you mean "xterm -e df --total -h", as... yeah.
[02:43] <kr3w> 442G
[02:43] <whiter> eye-zak: Core 2 Duo T5250 is what i got
[02:43] <kr3w> but it's a 500G drive
[02:43] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is file system overhead but 500 gig drive is 5x10^9 but linux measures in 1024 not 1000 for 1k
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> jjnorth: ok. yeah, sure. :-)
[02:43] <jjnorth> kr3w: I wouldn't put money on that.
[02:43] <eye-zak> whiter, went from T2250 to T7200
[02:43] <kr3w> eye-zak: everything measures as 1024 and not 1000
[02:43] <kr3w> :/
[02:43] <whiter> i should probably install the 64bit version of ubuntu
[02:44] <eye-zak> kr3w, not the manufacturer / advertiser when they are trying to sell you something
[02:44] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Thank you, said it better than I could.  ;)
[02:44] <kr3w> eye-zak: manufacturer does, ads are a different story i agree
[02:44] <kr3w> total                 1.8T  286G  1.5T  17%
[02:44] <kr3w> hmm
[02:44] <kr3w> ah fuck it
[02:44] <kr3w> i got nuff space
[02:44] <kr3w> i don't care about 60 giggs
[02:44] <FloodBot3> kr3w: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <Daekdroom> kr3w, They market it as 500G because it's 500,000MB..
[02:45] <usr13> kr3w: Ok, that's enough....
[02:45] <rascal999> how do i mkfs.ext2 on a directory?
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> rascal999: you don't
[02:45] <jjnorth> rascal999: Very carefully.
[02:45] <eye-zak> rascal999, you can't , but you can create a loopback file
[02:45] <fqh> Hi all, what is the name of NVIDIA private driver?
[02:45] <usr13> rascal999: You make new filesystems on partitions, not directories.
[02:45] <patx> how could i add an Shut Down button to a submenu of my gnome menu?
[02:45] <eye-zak> fqh: use jockey-gtk or jockey-text to install nvidia drivers
[02:46] <rascal999> eye-zak: how do i loop-back a directory?
[02:46] <kr3w> usr13: pm
[02:46] <xangua> patx: removing indicator session applet
[02:46] <eye-zak> rascal999, loopback is a filesystem in a file so you need a blank file first run dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/output bs=1M count=<as many megs as you want>
[02:46] <jjnorth> patx: Where exactly do you want it?
[02:47] <eye-zak> rascal999, then run mkfs on the file .. it will warn but continue
[02:47] <patx> jjnorth, in the Other menu
[02:48] <rascal999> i could just get to the root of the problem. I'd like to make an nfsroot serving diskless clients read only
[02:48] <rascal999> but i can't do this without problems
[02:48] <eye-zak> rascal999, not sure about diskless clients at all what does it need
[02:48] <Empty_foo> how can I turn off the nag that want's me to upgrade to 10.04?
[02:48] <jjnorth> patx: Got it.
[02:49] <patx> yea?
[02:49] <jjnorth> patx: Does it need any special icon?
[02:49] <patx> nah
[02:49] <rascal999> eye-zak: i'd like diskless clients to boot off nfsroot, and any changes they need to make written to ram
[02:49] <rascal999> union fs
[02:49] <eye-zak> Empty_foo, let me tell you that both sound and usb were broken due to kernel driver bug fo mee
[02:49] <jjnorth> patx: Let me test it real quick, brb
[02:49] <patx> jjnorth, ok ty
[02:49] <eye-zak> rascal999, ok this is a bit complex ... u need an overlay filesystem .. i would say aufs but i believe my server crashes are due to aufs so that's a nono
[02:50] <unop> whiter, strange, editing the .desktop file that way doesn't seem to work -- but calling a script is a work-around and that works fine.
[02:50] <eye-zak> rascal999, oh sorry i see unionfs .. so you need a tmpfs and a writable directory that union fs will use for backing ... it's ok if it is read-write on the server
[02:50] <whiter> unop: i have no idea how to do that though, that's why i was trying to avoid it
[02:51] <eye-zak> rascal999, you may be able to bind mount a directory read-only however, just not sure
[02:51] <Mene-Mene> Where might I find a list of major new features 9.10>10.04?
[02:52] <jjnorth> patx: Ready?
[02:52] <patx> yea
[02:52] <unop> whiter, simple.  create a file called skype in your ~/bin/   directory and place these lines in ..  export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1  skype
[02:52] <eye-zak> rascal999, sorry i forgot most union filesystems will not work with NFS due to duplicate inodes
[02:52] <jjnorth> patx: Okay, what I did, was make a launcher to run the command from the Main Menu.
[02:52] <unop> whiter, then make the script executable with this command.   chmod +x ~/bin/skype
[02:52] <unop> whiter, that's it
[02:52] <patx> jjnorth, ok, what command?
[02:52] <rascal999> eye-zak: atm /etc/fstab on os which is http://pastebin.com/A8KbFzgN
[02:53] <jjnorth> patx: System > Preferences > Main Menu, click "Other", click "Add Item".
[02:53] <whiter> unop: i see, thanks
[02:53] <unop> whiter, actually, change that command to what you had i.e. with the &&
[02:53] <whiter> k
[02:53] <patx> ok
[02:53] <jjnorth> patx: Then it's "Name: Shut Down" "Command: gksudo 'xterm -e shutdown -h now'" "Comment: Shuts down the computer"
[02:53] <eye-zak> rascal999, on the client that is ... yes ?
[02:53] <squiggly> i'm running ubuntu from liveCD, how do i access a local drive?
[02:53] <bart_> I am trying to install build-essentials and keeps asking for a CD
[02:53] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah
[02:53] <patx> jjnorth, ok thanks!
[02:54] <bart_> Asks for the live CD but with a different label than the ISO burn creates
[02:54] <jjnorth> patx: Should work from there, it'll ask for your root password to authorize the shutdown, then halt.
[02:54] <xangua> bart_: unmark the cd from system>administration>software origins
[02:54] <eye-zak> rascal999, ok sorry i was a bit confused ... this will probably require some custom hacks to the boot scripts
[02:54] <jjnorth> patx: You're certainly welcome.  :)
[02:55] <eye-zak> rascal999, i have done this before for aufs, i can give you my code ... it's not for your target and needs nfs put in ... most of it was inspired by casper
[02:55] <jjnorth> patx: Note the single quotes have to be there, or it simply won't work.
[02:55] <patx> yea i got it its working
[02:55] <eye-zak> rascal999, basically you need to boot like nfsroot, with extra parameters for your script which will mount nfs somewhere and tmfs somewhere and union them together for the rootfs
[02:55] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah i've been trying casper and nfs, both hit dead ends with customization and read only fs
[02:56] <patx> you know where the icon would be by any change (the red button?)
[02:56] <bart_> That did it... weird.. i dont recall setting that
[02:56] <jjnorth> patx: Okay, well, glad to help out.
[02:56] <rascal999> well, with casper you can unsquashfs, but it's such a pain to do
[02:56] <eye-zak> rascal999, how do u distribute initramfs, or don't you for this type of setup ?
[02:56] <jjnorth> patx: I'll take a peak around.
[02:56] <patx> jjnorth, ^^
[02:56] <patx> ok thanks!
[02:56] <GeekSquid> bart_: # remove the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for cdrom
[02:56] <whiter> unop: i'm stupid. i should have thought of that earlier
[02:56] <rascal999> eye-zak: for nfsroot i've got netboot for modules and boot
[02:57] <eye-zak> rascal999, casper is too bloated for what u want ... but the initscripts may have something for union mounts but i doubt it
[02:57] <bart_> GeekSquid: the CD was selected as an install source... unselecting it fixed it
[02:57] <eye-zak> rascal999, i'm not familar with how the netboot works but if your rootfs is unavailable you get an initramfs prompt, yes ?
[02:57] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah
[02:58] <eye-zak> rascal999, so you are going to need to change the contents of that initramfs and add a custom nfs-union init script
[02:58] <rascal999> eye-zak: oh
[02:58] <eye-zak> rascal999, you pass init=<name of your initscript> to kernel so it knows what to run in the initramfs
[02:58] <unop> whiter, well, i did recommend that from the very start .. but you were against the idea.
[02:59] <whiter> unop: i didnt understand what you meant by script... when you say script i think other things
[02:59] <eye-zak> rascal999, your script will get called and it will have the responsibility of mounting the rootfs on /target i believe
[02:59] <unop> whiter, well, now you know :)
[03:00] <eye-zak> rascal999, i would start with the nfs init script, copy it and add some small code to mount a (limited size) tmpfs somewhere .. change the nfs mountpoint and then union them together
[03:00] <eye-zak> rascal999, vm's are your friend
[03:00] <franc> You are all good people. All of you, every single one of you.
[03:00] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah, vm's have helped a lot
[03:01] <patx> jjnorth, back, sry, was testing it
[03:01] <jjnorth> patx: Figured as much.  ;)
[03:01] <eye-zak> rascal999, i'm going to get smokes but if you hack something up i will take a look when i get back
[03:01] <patx> lol
[03:01] <sje46> hey, there's this keyboard combination that will let me sign onto another account.  How can I find what it is?
[03:01] <evandro> oi
[03:01] <evandro> helow
[03:02] <evandro> i am evandro and you?
[03:02] <sje46> I am spartacus
[03:02] <evandro> ok
[03:02] <evandro> i am brazilian
[03:02] <sje46> some of the finest people are
[03:03] <GeekSquid> !br | evandro
[03:03] <jjnorth> patx: You might check out /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/actions to see if anything catches your family.
[03:03] <xangua> evandro: thisis a suppot channel, for general topic there is #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:03] <patx> jjnorth, ok thanks bro
[03:03] <jjnorth> patx: fancy... FANCY... not FAMILY... XD
[03:03] <patx> lol yea i got it ;)
[03:03] <evandro> tchal for all
[03:04] <jjnorth> patx: I recommend gtk-cancel or gnome-shutdown.
[03:05] <jjnorth> patx: Of course, if you liked XFce, gtk-quit might look familiar.  ;)
[03:05] <patx> ok
[03:05] <acicula> is there a channel cycle hotkey for xchat, instead of using alt-1 etc
[03:07] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Did Sunny ever come back?  It'd be a shame to lose him to a softmodem conflict.
[03:08] <xangua> acicula: Control+Return Page¿
[03:08] <acicula> xangua, ah thanks :)
[03:09] <patx> jjnorth, whats gtk-quit?
[03:09] <xangua> just guessing :)
[03:09] <jjnorth> patx: The icon for the Exit function on XFce.
[03:09] <patx> oh ok
[03:10] <bart_> ok... so i have installed build-essentials and the linux-header files and whhen i try to make the creative XFi drivers it still says it cant find sound/driver.h  .... anyone got an idea what i am missing?
[03:11] <srini> how to restrict pen drive in linux??
[03:12] <kr3w> unmount it?
[03:12] <jjnorth> srini: Are you trying to prevent people from using USB drives, or trying to secure files on the stick itself?
[03:13] <srini> jjnorth:  Tryin to prevent people
[03:14] <aldkjfas> hello
[03:14] <greezmunkey> srini: unmount it? Take it with you?
[03:14] <NimbleRabit> Does anybody here know if it's possible to get the volume control on my USB sound(Creative Soundblaster X-Fi)?  Everything else is working fine, but the volume knob on the device doesn't do anything.
[03:14] <jjnorth> srini: What system do you have (make / model, processor type, anything else you know)?
[03:14] <quiescens> what does that have to do with anything
[03:14] <jjnorth> srini: I ask, because this may be better served by a BIOS lock.
[03:14] <quiescens> o.O
[03:14] <airtonix> lol
[03:14] <airtonix> no
[03:14] <kr3w> encrypt the drive?
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> bart_: i have, well, an idea of what package might contain that
[03:15] <airtonix> srini, investigate the use of policykit and user-group restrictions
[03:15] <srini> jjnorth :  i have locked in bios.. but pend drive automatically mount
[03:15] <bullgard> srini: Use the file /etc/fstab.
[03:15] <srini> bullgard: how?
[03:15] <srini> airtonix: how to use policykit
[03:16] <snlemons> So, 10.4 on my new Dell Studio 1558 is great, but it won't wake from suspend. I see it mentioned in forums, but no proposed solution. Anyone have any tips?
[03:16] <bullgard> srini: This is described in 'man mount'.
[03:16] <jjnorth> bullgard: If fstab can *block* mounting devices, I'd like to know how.
[03:16] <moetunes> !fstab
[03:16] <bart_> onetinsoldier: I am all ears
[03:17] <srini> bullgard: i want to restrict pendrive only. not usb keyboards and mouse
[03:17] <jjnorth> bullgard: Shared subtrees?
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> bart_: ok. first, i'm not certain it's in there. and, i probably can't help you any further than letting you know what it is..  alsa-source
[03:18] <onetinsoldier> !alsa-source
[03:18] <theholder> Hi
[03:18] <onetinsoldier> bart_: i wouldn't follow what the bot said there... the package is in Lucid
[03:19] <jjnorth> bullgard: I didn't mean to come across as hostile.  If you know of a way to block USB mounts via fstab, I'd love to hear it.
[03:19] <shazbotmcnasty> to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 it's "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:19] <xangua> shazbotmcnasty: or just open update manager
[03:19] <greezmunkey> shazbotmcnasty: I thought you were changing your oil...
[03:19] <aldkjfas> can anyone help me get my aircrack-ng working im running bt4 off of usb i am new to linux but have tried very hard reading all the FAQs and forums for help with this but cant seem to get it working io think the problem is my arp settings
[03:19] <shazbotmcnasty> greezmunkey, I did that this morning
[03:19] <jjnorth> bullgard: It certainly sounds easier than dealing with policykit.
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> bart_: i just want to say, i don't envy you when it comes to messing around with that stuff. good luck ;-)
[03:20] <cba123> I installed Tracker on Lucid, and I can't seem to get it started.  Even when I enable indexing, it doesn't start at all.  Any ideas?
[03:21] <bart_> onetinsoldier: been hackin at it for 3 days...
[03:21] <bart_> onetinsoldier: my sound works fine... the mic does not
[03:21] <acicula> aldkjfas, best ask in #backtrack-linux
[03:21] <jjnorth> bullgard: Wait a minute, "nouser"?
[03:21] <aldkjfas> thnx 4 the link acicula
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> bart_: roger. i know the routine. been there. not with alsa, but been around the block a time or two
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> kernal compiles ;-)
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> kernel*
[03:22] <jjnorth> Bah, oh well, I guess policykit is the best route there.  I was kinda hoping for a decent / intelligent fstab option, to be honest.
[03:24] <Guest63409> any one can help me about DSL connection?
[03:24] <phiberoptik> damn for some reason synergyc is not starting after i login
[03:24] <phiberoptik> but it starts when i'm at the login window
[03:25] <jjnorth> Guest63409: What's it doing?
[03:25] <eye-zak> Guest63409, no luck with network manager ?
[03:25] <Guest63409> yeah, it seems connect to, but it can't work
[03:26] <Guest63409> Guest63409, yeah, it seems connect to, but it can't work
[03:26] <quiescens> jjnorth: in hindsight wouldn't it be easiest to go to the user account settings thingy and just disable their cdrom and/or external storage access from the checkboxes there
[03:26] <pcgeek32147> how do i find my video card driver
[03:27] <eye-zak> Guest63409, use target username not yours in msgs ... run ifconfig -a and put on pastebin so we can see
[03:27] <jjnorth> quiescens: In hindsight, I never noticed that before now.  D'oh.
[03:27] <quiescens> mm, I don't know if it works for sure though, so I wouldn't want to suggest it without trying it out
[03:27] <pcgeek32147> how do i find my video card driver
[03:27] <Guest63409> now I on XP , so I can do that now
, now , i am using window xp
[03:28] <eye-zak> Guest63409, ok don't think i can bee of much help otoh ... sorry
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: have you tried the menu up top?   System --> Administration -- Hardware Drivers
[03:29] <pcgeek32147> how do i find my video card driver in command line
[03:30] <MPX>   
 in fact i can connect router , but it can't daile to DSL
[03:30] <eye-zak> pcgeek32147, try lspci | grep vga
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: if you don't know what your video card is, do --> lshw -C display
[03:30] <jjnorth> pcgeek32147: Except "vga" should be "VGA"... ;)
[03:31] <TomV-415> I just got a new computer and am now trying to figure out how to sync up my old files from my previous ubuntu install.  To ssh from one box to the other, do I need to make firewall changes?  I'm getting "port 22: Connection refused"
[03:31] <eye-zak> Guest63409, hmm i would think router would connect to DSL for you ... does the router sign into dls for you ?
[03:31] <compaq> but he want to know driver not harware
[03:31] <jjnorth> compaq: Ah, but you need to know the hardware to get the driver.
[03:32] <eye-zak> Guest63409, sorry dsl ... if so the problem is either with the route (sudo ip route) or the dns (can be set with network-manager)
[03:32] <Zombie> Does anyone here own a Logitech Driving Force Steering Wheel?
[03:32] <compaq> jjnorth, alright, now now that he knows his hardware, how can he find which driver is running.
[03:32] <snlemons> 10.4 on my new Dell Studio 1558 is great, but it won't wake from suspend. I see it mentioned in forums, but no proposed solution. Anyone have any tips?
, no, my router don't do that for me. I need do diale with pppoeconf
[03:33] <eye-zak> Guest63409, ok so i haven't used ppoe with network-manager but goto network manager applet and choose edit connections form the menu
, I had removed network management, I use wicd to connect my networking.
[03:33] <jjnorth> compaq: It'd help if it were shared, particularly the results of that lspci line.
[03:33] <GeekSquid> TomV-415: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on the comp you want to connedt to
[03:33] <compaq> before, you could look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but how about now adays
[03:33] <linux_is_my_hero> any tried google earth on ubuntu 10.4 yet?
[03:33] <linux_is_my_hero> *anyone
[03:33] <Guest27363> you still can right
[03:34] <TomV-415> GeekSquid: Thanks!
[03:34] <eye-zak> Guest63409, ah ok not sure howto config wicd for ppoe but afaik network manager can do it for u from the gui since 0.7.7
[03:34] <compaq> jjnorth, Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[03:34] <jjnorth> compaq: xorg.conf is mostly phased out in favor of auto-detection, but it's not perfect.
[03:34] <jjnorth> compaq: The full line only provides that?
[03:35] <compaq> jjnorth, yeah, xorg is much better now
[03:35] <compaq> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
network management can diale to DSL?
[03:35] <jjnorth> compaq: Oh wow, I should've picked up on that "Intel" straightaway.
[03:36] <eye-zak> Guest63409, network-manager cannot dial per out a phone line, but can sign into ppoe no problem (i'm looking at the dialog now in lucid)
[03:36] <TomV-415> GeekSquid: Thanks!
[03:36] <TomV-415> (oops, didn't mean to send that twice!)
[03:37] <bart_> well... looks like this is where it is trying to find it's external header files Entering directory... /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic
[03:37] <bart_> and i have those headers installed
[03:37] <eye-zak> Guest63409, you will have to create a new DSL connection in the dialog ... then connect to it
 in the past i used network-management to connect my networking, but it is conflict with pppoeconf,so I removed it and install wicd to manage my network.
[03:38] <pcgeek32147> how do i find my video card driver slhw did not work
[03:38] <jjnorth> compaq: It's currently a can't-fix, my tower runs the same card. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476984
[03:38] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: Heh, Does Wicd support PPP, PPPoE, or Mobile Broadband? Not yet. Support for these are planned for wicd 2.0, which will be released in the *late_future*.
[03:38] <Guest63409> in what dialog? I use pppoeconf to diale DSL
[03:38] <eye-zak> Guest63409, i've never used ppoeconf ... not sure if there is something it does that nm doesn't ...
[03:38] <compaq> jjnorth, I know, I had the same problems, but I switched to debian, I am testing right now, seems fine to me
[03:38] <jjnorth> compaq: I thought it sounded familiar.
[03:39] <eye-zak> Guest63409, network-manager-applet -> edit connections, dsl tab (one on the left)
[03:39] <pcgeek32147> how do i find my video card driver slhw did not work
[03:39] <compaq> jjnorth, lsmod will show you the driver you are running
[03:39] <Chymera> hi, do you guys know of any freely available cms for software development, like some Software configuration management thing?
[03:39] <jjnorth> compaq: It's a "can't fix" within the distro, and that's more a 3D concern iirc.
[03:39] <Johnny_101> जय भारत
[03:39] <compaq> pcgeek32147, lsmod
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: it's... lshw
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: do --> lshw -C display
[03:39] <jjnorth> compaq: Debian may well have fixed it, and it's yet to be committed back.
[03:40] <compaq> jjnorth, no, they just didn't blacklist it, Ubuntu people will have it soon though
[03:40] <Guest63409> in the past nm icon disapear, maybe it is confilict with pppoeconf
[03:40] <eye-zak> jjnorth, it could also be a kernel bug that is not present in debian (some buggy intel code needed to be removed for my atom board to boot)
[03:40] <compaq> debian is way older than Ubuntu, debian uses the oldest packages out of all distros out there
 int the past nm icon disapeart, maybe it is confilict with pppoeconf?
[03:40] <eye-zak> Guest63409, make sure no connections in /etc/network/interfaces for your card (again never used pppoeconf)
[03:41] <jmcantrell> is there a ppa for the kernel? i want to try something past .32
[03:41] <jjnorth> Wait, when did *I* start having trouble with Brookdale?  What just happened?
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> jmcantrell: yes.. not sure where it's at, but i've seen one for a 2.6.34-rc7 kernel
[03:41] <eye-zak> Guest63409, try killall nm-applet and then run nm-applet if it really crashed (btw what ubuntu version)
[03:41] <jmcantrell> onetinsoldier: do you know how to set it up?
[03:42] <jjnorth> compaq: I thought *you* were having issues with Brookdale, after discerning that we weren't talking about pcgeek32147's card.  Did I miss something?
[03:42] <onetinsoldier> jmcantrell: what do you mean? it's .deb, so you just install it
[03:42] <Guest63409> now I haved delete everything in the file of /etc/network/interfaces, let it as a empte file
, now I haved delete everything in the file of /etc/network/interfaces, let it as a empte file
[03:42] <compaq> I went and bought another agp, and put it in, and installed proprietary nvidia drivers.  It was horrible, my case was left open, cause it is small form factor, and use the card didn't fit with the case on, and on top of that, my cpu was running so high all the time
[03:42] <jmcantrell> onetinsoldier: that's not really a ppa.
[03:42] <eye-zak> Guest63409, no .. just make sure there is no ifconfig <ethdev> section for your network card
[03:43] <jjnorth> compaq: In other words, yes.  Yes, I did miss something.
[03:43] <compaq> Then I remembered that long time ago, when I was running debian on this computer, I ran compiz, so I tried again, and sure enough, it installed and so far it running goood
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> jmcantrell: oh, i know what you mean now. no, i don't really
[03:43] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: You should leave auto lo in there
[03:43] <Johnny_101> hi guys.
[03:43] <compaq> It runs, but it crashes sometimes, so Ubuntu blacklisted it.  But it seems ok so far for me.  We'll see
, my OS is ubuntu 10.04 <lucid>
, I try that also.
[03:44] <compaq> There is something fishy about nvidia proprietary drivers, they kill cpu
[03:44] <eye-zak> Guest63409, ok ... not sure what else to say ... nm-applet is the 'supported' way to go
[03:44] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: That won't change what you are working on, it is just needed by your system for other things.
[03:44] <jjnorth> compaq: "Something fishy"... Couldn't that be said of *all* proprietary drivers? ;)
[03:44] <Guest63409> t<eye-zak>, he problem is that I had removed nm
[03:45] <vilhelm> Hello howdo I know that the graphics driver is installed in opensuse?
[03:45] <vilhelm> oops
[03:45] <Johnny_101> compaq : Nvidia works fine for me..nothing fishy.
[03:45] <vilhelm> sry wrong channel
[03:45] <eye-zak> Guest63409, ok so you need nm packages to install (check /var/cache/apt/archives maybe)
[03:45] <compaq> jjnorth, yep, you got that right, but the adobe flash, and mplayer mpeg123 seems ok, but who know
[03:46] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: the interfaces file should have (line1) auto lo - (line 2) iface lo inet loopback  -at a minimum
[03:46] <jjnorth> compaq: Yeah, I'm not an elitist or anything.  I run what works, same as most others.
[03:46] <compaq> my cpu is fine, I have those installed, but the nvidia drivers were a killer, or maybe it was something else, can't say for sure
[03:46] <jjnorth> vilhelm: I imagine quite a bit of the backend is the same, are you trying to verify 2D or 3D graphics?
[03:47] <compaq> jjnorth, I am not too familiar with the term or this context, ...actually, I think I maybe, I may just be an elitist
, yeah, wicd works perfect, and I use pppoeconf to diale DSL, and I use plog to see what happened, it seems ok too, but cont surffe internet, so, I don't know to do with it
[03:48] <Guest27363> wine sucks
 I tried that also, It still couldn't work.
[03:48] <PratikPatel> I have an ATI Radeon X1200 (RS690M), how do I get it to detect the right refresh rate for a 2nd display? It detects the wrong refresh rate. It also disable compiz when a 2nd display is connected. Is this a driver issue?
[03:48] <Johnny_101> compaq : Nvidia 3rd Card?
[03:48] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: open a terminal - ping 8.8.8.8 see if you get a reply, then try ping google.com tell us what happens
[03:48] <compaq> Johnny_101, yep
[03:48] <Johnny_101> compaq : model ?
[03:48] <pcgeek32147> what is display UNCLAIMED and how do i fix it
[03:48] <compaq> Johnny_101, its an old one, gforce I think, 128mb
[03:49] <compaq> Johnny_101, it doesn't say on the card, but when I had it in, I think that was the driver
[03:49] <jjnorth> compaq: I don't see you clinging to ideals over functionality, so I don't think you'd qualify.  ;)
[03:49] <compaq> jjnorth, hehe
, some times pppoeconf can't connect. just some times, not always.
[03:49] <Johnny_101> compaq : I use Geforce 7200
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> jmcantrell: https://launchpad.net/~timg-tpi/+archive/ppa
[03:49] <pcgeek32147> what is display UNCLAIMED and how do i fix it
[03:49] <PratikPatel> It happens to everything I connect as a 2nd display. Projectors and monitors
[03:49] <Johnny_101> compaq : I use Geforce 7200 256mb
[03:50] <jjnorth> compaq: Plus, the fact that you're letting other people answer kinda disqualifies you anyways... ;)
[03:50] <greezmunkey> Guest63409: ok, get it connected, and run the tests I posted earlier.
[03:50] <ljsoftnet> is opendns secure?
[03:50] <pcgeek32147> what is display UNCLAIMED and how do i fix it
[03:50] <phiberoptik> damn anybody know why synergy doesn't load after i login
[03:50] <NimbleRabit> Does anybody know if there's a program and/or guide I can use to help me determine what volume level my surround speakers should each be at?
[03:50] <phiberoptik> but does at the login screen
[03:50] <eye-zak> ljsoftnet: as secure as sending your info on a public network
, ok I need to swith to ubuntu to try that.
[03:51] <compaq> Johnny_101, hmm, so what do you think about my issue of cpu over use.  It was constanly loaded, and now its stays under a quarter, before it was always at 3 quarter(75%)
[03:51] <compaq> Johnny_101, and 3d is on now too
[03:51] <ljsoftnet> eye-zak: what do u mean? secure or not secure?
[03:51] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: where are you finding that error?
[03:51] <eye-zak> ljsoftnet, no DNSSEC ... public internet ... but the best for dns
[03:52] <pcgeek32147> in the term
[03:52] <compaq>  glxinfo | grep -i direct, YES
[03:52] <jjnorth> I thought about doing that name thing with bugsbunny, but it doesn't work.
[03:52] <Johnny_101> compaq : Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[03:52] <compaq> Johnny_101, no, I had to switch for the video driver
[03:52] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: when you open one up?
[03:53] <compaq> Johnny_101, debian 5
[03:53] <tvaughn> is there a way to make the sound applet in the corner of ubuntu control OSS instead of ALSA?
[03:53] <Guest27363> tell me your password and i'll see how i can help
[03:53] <jjnorth> That should be an instant k-line.
[03:53] <tvaughn> agreed
[03:53] <Johnny_101> compaq : Why don't you try Debian Channel : There they will be more familiar with this problem.
[03:54] <z3ro3x> I've been having strange performance issues ever since I updated (fresh install) to 10.04.  When I play music in Rhythmbox after being logged on for several hours music gets really glitchy.  If I kill pulseaudio and restart it the audio glitching goes away for several hours then gliches again.  I've also been getting similiar glitching when watching videos in Totem.  Some time I get glitches where the mouse skips as I'm moving i
[03:54] <z3ro3x> t.  It feels like 10.04 was rushed out the door before it was finished.  Is there anyway I can fix some of these performance issues?
[03:54] <laurus> Is there a program available for Ubuntu that will allow me to enter text onto a PDF file and then print it out? (The PDF does not have fillable fields on it)
[03:54] <compaq> Johnny_101, I don't have a problem, I was just chit chatting
[03:54] <snlemons> laurus: You can edit PDFs in GIMP.
[03:54] <pcgeek32147> no when i type lshw -c display
[03:54] <laurus> snlemons, thanks! :)
[03:55] <snlemons> laurus: And some PDF readers will let you edit, but not if the PDF is locked against editing, as far as I know.
[03:55] <jjnorth> Right, well, I'm off, other things to do and all that.  Lates.
[03:55] <laurus> snlemons, I'm using Adobe Acrobat Reader and it doesn't seem to let me edit, probably because the PDF is locked, who knows :P
[03:55] <tvaughn> snlemons: you can always unlock them :P
[03:55] <laurus> But I need to edit all the same ;)
[03:55] <tvaughn> READER cant WRITE
[03:55] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: copy and paste the entire error to http://paste.ubuntu.com - paste the resulting url back here so we can look at it.
[03:56] <Johnny_101> compaq : I haven't use Debian ; how does it compare with Ubuntu
[03:56] <tvaughn> Johnny_101: it can be a huge pain
[03:56] <tvaughn> The apps that apt will install in it are old but stable
[03:56] <tvaughn> but out of date as far as a lot of people think
[03:57] <compaq> Johnny_101, well, on my laptop, I could get power management(sleep and hibernate) working, but it worked out of the box with ubuntu, but on my desktop, it was the reverse, i can't sleep with ubuntu, but it works with debian
[03:57] <Appl6> Johnny_101: You're unlikely to get a reasonable answer to that question in an Ubuntu channel.  Consider, for example, asking in #debian about Ubuntu.
[03:57] <eye-zak> Johnny_101, no working out of the box ... but some ppl on this list would say the same thing about ubuntu
[03:57] <Azerthoth> tvaughn, Johnny_101 that depends on the version your using
[03:57] <[Screamo]> how do i make the address bar let me type in it nautilus in 10.04
[03:57] <Appl6> [Screamo]: Ctrl-L
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> laurus: i don't know if this will help, but here it is  http://live.gnome.org/PdfMod
[03:58] <tvaughn> you can hit / as well
[03:58] <laurus> onetinsoldier, oh, that looks even better
[03:58] <[Screamo]> Thank you very much Appl6 :D
[03:58] <laurus> GIMP imported it but it looks low resolution :P
[03:58] <Appl6> tvaughn: If you want to retype your entire pwd.
[03:58] <Curly_Q> Greezmunkey, is there a Linux ap that lets you emulate Paste.ubuntu.com for one's own server? Also for graphics?
[03:58] <tvaughn> ah fair enough
[03:58] <Johnny_101> hey ! guys i am not looking to jump in Debian Closet ; but looks like some one already jumped form Debian closet..ye..ye..
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> laurus: cheers :-)
[03:59] <tvaughn> What is wrong with my clock....
[03:59] <tvaughn> its cut off
[03:59] <compaq> ah oh, I think the intel video driver is going kaput
[03:59] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: google pastebin software - there is.
[03:59] <Curly_Q> Thanks Greezmunky. I will.
[03:59] <tvaughn> heh must be a bug
[04:00] <Azerthoth> Johnny_101, debian stable is rock solid stable but stale, debian testing is roughly equal to ubuntu, some packages ahead some behind, debian sid (unstable) leads ubuntu in package revision but as the name says, isnt all that stable
[04:01] <TomV-415> I'm trying to figure out how to move all the files from my old ubuntu to my new computer.  If I use rsync, it seems like the -a option will perserve permissions, but my user name is different on the two computers...so what's the right way to pull the files from my old to new computer (ssh working now)
[04:01] <Curly_Q> Greezmunkey, I found the page:   http://sourceforge.net/projects/openpastebin/
[04:01] <ljsoftnet> are the IP addresses in opendns.com secure?
[04:02] <Azerthoth> ljsoftnet, huh?
[04:02] <Curly_Q> Thanks   !
[04:02] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: That's probably the best one I've looked at but there are others. Usually in the form of scripts that you install onto apache2
[04:02] <Johnny_101> ljsoftnet : what are you trying to do..secure?
[04:03] <ljsoftnet> am what i mean is if i use those ip address on my network connection is it safe?
[04:03] <Curly_Q> I apprecaiate that information Greezmunkey.   ;)
[04:03] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: np
[04:03] <Azerthoth> ljsoftnet, as safe as any dms provider
[04:03] <GeekSquid> ljsoftnet: no, if you want privacy.. setup own dns server
[04:03] <Azerthoth> dns
[04:04] <pcgeek32147> heres my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/438122/
[04:04] <Azerthoth> ljsoftnet, dns==domain name server, i.e. ties a particular domain name to a specific IP address
[04:04] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: heh, don't worry about that :)
[04:05] <Johnny_101> ljsoftnet : Anonymous surfing some like that ??
[04:06] <pcgeek32147> but my hdmi wont work :(
[04:06] <TomV-415> Here's how I'm planning to pull the files from my old computer : "rsync -aze ssh --exclude=".*/" tom@192.168.2.56:/home/tom/ /home/tomv/"  (will that work or will the files have the wrong permissions?
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: Lucid has issues with some of the Intel Video cards. you might find a workaround here perhaps --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes
[04:06] <duckwars> what is a good irc client for command line?
[04:06] <Curly_Q> Pcgeek32147 the clock speed is very slow at 33Mhz
[04:06] <Azerthoth> duckwars, irssi
[04:06] <duckwars> Thank you!
[04:06] <Johnny_101> ljsoftnet : spooky!
[04:07] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: let me guess, dell mini 10??
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> pcgeek32147: i don't know if the link i gave there is related to your problem or not, but you can take a look at it
[04:07] <Azerthoth> duckwars, there is a trick to connecting irssi to freenode.net (here) though. it is documented on the freenode website and blogs
[04:08] <eye-zak> pcgeek32147, how is that poulsbo chip working for you ?
[04:08] <Curly_Q> 33 MHz is legacy equipment.
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> Curly_Q: i hear that
[04:08] <duckwars> Azerthoth: is it a quick secret you can tell me, or should i look it up
[04:08] <Curly_Q> Sounds like a VIC 20.
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> lol
[04:08] <Azerthoth> duckwars, give me a second, I have it in my irssi config
[04:09] <paul__> Azerthoth: it's me!
[04:09]  * onetinsoldier breaks out his Sinclair ZX to see what video card it has :P
[04:09] <paul__> Azerthoth: coolness, thanks man
[04:09] <Curly_Q> I think my electric shaver has more memory that that device.
[04:10] <Azerthoth> paul__, on irssi? looks like ubuntu package has it set up already then
[04:10] <Azerthoth> nice
[04:10] <GeekSquid> Curly_Q: 33mhz video - do you need any faster 1024x768 x 60hx
[04:10] <jiechic> #ubuntu-cn
[04:10] <jiechic> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:11] <jiechic> jion #ubuntu-cn
[04:11] <Curly_Q> GeekSquid, the point is that you need the correct drivers.
[04:11] <Begasus> hello all, I've just finished upgrading yaunty to lucid ... but now I can't seem to launch Firefox anymore (I can only see it trying to restore a previous session when it closes) anyone seen this behaviour before?
[04:11] <greezmunkey> jiechic: use "/" in front of that
[04:11] <Begasus> jiechic, add a / ..
[04:11] <GeekSquid> jiechic: /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:11] <Curly_Q> If not then if you are trying to connect legacy devices to a new system is pointless.
[04:12] <Johnny_101> !chat
[04:12] <klenwell> Hello all, need some help with a partition resize that's frozen...
[04:12] <klenwell> I was following the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToRemoveWindows
[04:13] <klenwell> Got about 3/4 through the resize and everything froze.  Mouse cursor responds but that's it...
[04:13] <Johnny_101> !partition | kllenwell
[04:13] <Curly_Q> Most hardware is by default supported by Linux. In fact, Linux is fantastic in supporting backwards compatible devices whereas Windows is not so compatible unless you have Service Packs etc.
[04:14] <IdleOne> klenwell: how long has it been frozen?
[04:14] <klenwell> Been frozen a while now, at least 20 mins(?)  This is not a fresh install.
[04:14] <DASPRiD> Curly_Q, my 10 year old soundcard is not supported anymore by windows ;)
[04:14] <DASPRiD> since vista i think
[04:14] <Administrator_> ..
[04:15] <IdleOne> klenwell: I would wait a little longer before killing it
[04:15] <p1l0t> In the ubuntu software thing on netbook 10.04 where is the install button after I click more info?
[04:15] <Curly_Q> DASPRiD you can find the driver      http://www.driversguide.com
[04:15] <tvaughn> is there a way to make the sound applet in the corner of ubuntu control OSS instead of ALSA?
[04:16] <DASPRiD> Curly_Q, nope, there is no driver anymore, terratec is not supporting it, nor is there a compatible chipset, there was a compatible driver for vista, but not for 7 anymore
[04:16] <klenwell> IdleOne: Yeah, I'm hoping it comes back to life.  If it doesn't... ? I did back up my home dir.  How long to wait?
[04:16] <lingm> I'm trying to create an ad-hoc connection following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html - but the "create" button is greyed out. On Lucid. Any ideas?
[04:17] <Curly_Q> DASPRiD, there is a driver out there. You need to work a little bit harder to find it. Have you tried bit torrents?
[04:17] <the-new-guy> hey guys - whats the best gui app in ubuntu for turning wlan on and off and configuring it ??
[04:17] <IdleOne> klenwell: another 15-20 minutes and if it still isn't done then I guess you can kill it and hope for the best but like you said you did the smart thing and backed up :)
[04:17] <DASPRiD> Curly_Q, for the terratec xfire 1024?
[04:17] <Johnny_101> p1l0t : Simply boot it from live CD..
, there?
[04:18] <popfizz> Hi guys. I just installed Lucid on my laptop and I'm having trouble setting up my wireless connection. I see my network on the list of available networks, but then when I try to connect it keeps timing out and asking me for my password again. I'm sure that the password I'm providing is correct. I'm using WPA2 Personal with TKIP/AES.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[04:18] <cba123> I installed Tracker on Lucid, and I can't seem to get it started.  Even when I enable indexing, it doesn't start at all.  Any ideas?
[04:18] <greezmunkey> __taco: what's up
[04:18] <Curly_Q> DASPRiD, I have a Dual DVD that has about 200,000 drivers downloaded as a bit torrent. It must be in there somewhere.
[04:18] <the-new-guy> popfizz, what APP is it you are using for WLAN ?
[04:18] <pcgeek32147> ubuntu says my monitor is unknown
[04:18] <DASPRiD> Curly_Q, for windows 7?
[04:18] <tvaughn> popfizz: I had that issue at my fathers... wish i could remember what I did to fix it..
[04:18] <Curly_Q> Anything.
[04:18] <__taco> greezmunkey, i am the guy who ask you ablut network aminutes ago.
[04:18] <klenwell> IdleOne: Yeah, just hope the backup works.  (I did do a test partial restore beforehand.)  Does killing it mean hard power-off?
[04:18] <Johnny_101> !wpa2 | popfizz
[04:19] <popfizz> the-new-guy: whatever the default is with Ubuntu ucid
[04:19] <tvaughn> popfizz: I think it had to do with mac filtering..
[04:19] <the-new-guy> lol
[04:19] <__taco> greezmunkey,I did that as you told me do
[04:19] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, what happened?
[04:19] <pcgeek32147> ubuntu says my monitor is unknown hlep me fix it plz
[04:19] <IdleOne> klenwell: are you able to get a TTY ( ctrl-alt-F1) ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to GUI
[04:19] <__taco> greezmunkey,  submit the result to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/stGpv3Dn
[04:19] <p1l0t> I don't have a cd drive on my netbook though
[04:20] <patx> How can I change the sound my computer makes when it boots up?
[04:20] <greezmunkey> __taco: looking now, brb
[04:20] <__taco> you can see the result.
[04:20] <Curly_Q> DASPRiD, just because Windows 7 is out it does not mean that there is a driver for it. The newer the OS the more difficult you will find a driver because most software and hardware developers are not supporting legacy devices.
[04:20] <patx> Or logs in?
[04:20] <popfizz> tvaughn: my router doesn't filter mac addresses
, ok , thx
[04:20] <DASPRiD> Curly_Q, that's exactly what i said
[04:20] <tvaughn> popfizz: no sort of security except for WPA2?
[04:20] <snlemons> Does anyone have any tips for getting standby to work on my new Dell Studio 1558?
[04:20] <klenwell> IdleOne: No, can't get TTL.  Ctrl-Alt-F1 does nothing.
[04:20] <IdleOne> klenwell: umm yeah hard shut down I guess.
[04:21] <tvaughn> klenwell: wait
[04:21] <p1l0t> exit
[04:21] <tvaughn> have you tried REISUB?
[04:21] <p1l0t> haha
[04:21] <xangua> DASPRiD: driver for windows 7¿¿ for what¿¿
[04:21] <pcgeek32147> ubuntu says my monitor is unknown hlep me fix it plz type in red if you can help
[04:21] <IdleOne> klenwell: tvaughn has a better idea. sorry I didn't think of it first
[04:22] <tvaughn> :)
[04:22] <klenwell> Is there hope? :)  REISUB? not familiar with that.
[04:22] <greezmunkey> __taco: run ifconfig again - look for interface dsl-provider
[04:22] <Azerthoth> pcgeek32147, type in red .. this is just using your name and you client highlighting it
[04:22] <patx> How can I change the sound my computer makes when it boots up or logs in?
[04:22] <tvaughn> klenwell: hold alt and SYSRQ then type REISUB with a second or so inbetween keys
, it is name of ppp0?
[04:23] <pcgeek32147> i just need help
[04:23] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: the way I understand it REISUB is broken in Lucid - if I'm worng let me know.
[04:23] <Johnny_101> p1l0t : netbook ?
[04:23] <tvaughn> greezmunkey: you have to use the right alt for some reason :|
[04:23] <IdleOne> tvaughn: I always forget about reisub :/
[04:23] <greezmunkey> __taco: you got it! Does it have an ip address
[04:23] <pcgeek32147> ubuntu says my monitor is unknown hlep me fix it
[04:23] <alejandro> what is the best wireless adapter compatible with ubuntu?
[04:24] <tvaughn> not netgear
[04:24] <__taco> yeah, I got an ip address
[04:24] <klenwell> tvaughn: thanks.  (just googled it to make sure I wasn't being pranked.)  I'll give it a try now...
[04:24] <popfizz> Johnny_101: I checked out your link but I don't see anything about my problem there.
[04:24] <tvaughn> heh pranks from #ubuntu
[04:24] <the-new-guy> can anyone help me ?
[04:24] <eye-zak> alejandro: try something that uses ath9k driver from atheros
, yeah, it got a ip
[04:24] <tvaughn> whats this world come to
[04:24] <the-new-guy> I just want to turn my wlan on :(
[04:24] <popfizz> the-new-guy: me too!
[04:24] <IdleOne> klenwell: that is the exact reason why we ask people to stay in the channel when asking for help :) so that others can peer review and make sure no bad advice is given
[04:25] <the-new-guy> popfizz, I need to find the gui to do it first...
[04:25] <Azerthoth> pcgeek32147, does it work? simply put monitors report what they are, if your monitor does not repost its edid then its a fairly meaningless error as long as it is performing
[04:25] <IdleOne> tvaughn: good looking out :)
[04:25] <p1l0t> What is the name of the repository package for flash?
[04:25] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, so your dsl interface is coming up, but the routing is not happening, paste the contents of ifconfig, and ip route please - don't disconnect internet please
[04:25] <the-new-guy> !wlan
[04:25] <klenwell> greezmunkey: I don't think I'm in lucid.  I think I'm on Ubuntu 8.4 or 8.10.
[04:25] <tvaughn> IdleOne: are you like me, where you feel paying for linux is by helping others?
[04:26] <greezmunkey> klenwell: go ahead on then, good luck :)
[04:26] <IdleOne> tvaughn: absolutely
[04:26] <patx> How can I change the sound my computer makes when it boots up or logs in?
[04:26] <tvaughn> IdleOne: good man
[04:26] <patx> Can anyone help with that?
[04:26] <tvaughn> or woman
[04:26] <popfizz> the-new-guy: Ubuntu 10.04 ships with "NetworkManager Applet 0.8" as the lan/wlan manager.
[04:26] <IdleOne> klenwell: you can type lsb_release -a in a terminal to see your version
[04:26] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: hear, hear :)
[04:27] <p1l0t> How do you search the repository from the command line?
[04:27] <IdleOne> p1l0t: apt-cache search searchterm
[04:27] <ERGington> Hey guys, I got an issue. Tryin 10.4 Netbook and I need to reinstall and reformat the drive. any idea on how i can do this if I dont have a bootable USB? I have the iso currently installed on a working version, but I messed up on the partition.
[04:27] <Azerthoth> p1l0t, apt-cache search
[04:27] <the-new-guy> popfizz, it says its running
[04:27] <popfizz> Now Ubuntu doesn't even list my wireless network as one of the available networks :(
[04:27] <p1l0t> Thanks
[04:27] <the-new-guy> but i cant see it
,ok , I try to do that a again, sometings else need to post?
[04:27] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, so your dsl interface is coming up, but the routing is not happening, paste the contents of ifconfig, and ip route please - don't disconnect internet please
[04:28] <laurus> Sorry for asking a silly question, but how do I type a checkbox?
[04:28] <pcgeek32147> but i want t use my tv as a monitor via hdmi
[04:28] <laurus> Er, check mark.
[04:28] <IdleOne> laurus: with the space key
, ok
[04:28] <greezmunkey> __taco: the ip route command should tell us what's broken
[04:28] <laurus> Idleone, how do I do that?
[04:28] <Curly_Q> GreezMunkey what is the dsl problem there?
[04:28] <laurus> I know it's U+2713
[04:28] <IdleOne> laurus: type it where?
[04:28] <laurus> Into a UTF-8 document, say
[04:29] <IdleOne> oh, no clue
[04:29] <laurus> I'm actually typing it into the GIMP Text Editor
[04:29] <laurus> Oh, haha
, "ip route" is a command?
[04:29] <laurus> ✓
[04:29] <klenwell> Tried REISUB: no reaction.  Any way to verify I'm doing it right?
[04:30] <IdleOne> laurus: how did you do that?
[04:30] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: not a problem, just that his connect script is not finishing the job, providing the default route, etc. He's going to post ip route, and ifconfig - so if we can connect him successfully, the script hacking should be easy.
[04:30] <tvaughn> klenwell: you using the right or left alt?
[04:30] <laurus> IdleOne, I looked it up at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2713/index.htm
[04:30] <laurus> So I didn't type it, I cheated :P
, "ip route" is a command?
[04:30] <laurus> It'd be cool to know how to type it though!
[04:30] <greezmunkey> __taco: yes
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> IdleOne: charmap
[04:30] <klenwell> tvaughn: left
[04:30] <bergw> i'd much appreciate it if someone could give me some insight on a dual head setup
[04:30] <pcgeek32147> ubuntu says my monitor is unknown
[04:30] <Ratty_> In grub I have video mode set like: mode_option=1920x1080-24 is there a way to also specify to use overscan like I can from the display config ui inside ubuntu?
[04:30] <pcgeek32147> but i want t use my tv as a monitor via hdmi
[04:30] <ubuntunetbook> Anyone know if I can reinstall 10.4 netbook and reformat my drive without having a bootable USB Stick
[04:30] <__taco> ok, i swich to ubuntu to do that again..
[04:30] <tvaughn> going to test REISUB on 10.04 brb
[04:30] <IdleOne> onetinsoldier: yeah but what is the key combo?
[04:31] <friedturtl3> nickchange party
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> IdleOne: ahh, yeah. don't know
[04:31] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: what hardware, laptop model, etc?
[04:31] <Johnny_101> ! dual head setup | bergw
[04:31] <tvaughn> klenwell: try it with the right
[04:31] <klenwell> Ah, just found a lifehacker link.  I didn't type REISUB while holding down atl-sysrq
[04:31] <tvaughn> heh
[04:31] <tvaughn> try the right alt tho
[04:31]  * friedturtl3 is now known as beauregard jenkins
[04:31] <Curly_Q> GreezMunkey have you seen this website?    http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe           This pretty much helps answer the question. I have used this about 20 years ago.
[04:31] <bergw> johnny_101, yeah. i had it working on debian, but 10.04 the second card seems dead
[04:32] <ubuntunetbook> Im running an asus eeepc with 1.6 ghz atom 1 g RAM
[04:32] <IdleOne> !ot > friedturtl3
[04:32] <tvaughn> !dual-head
[04:32] <henkboom_> I just installed libwxgtk2.8-dbg, how to I link against the dbg libraries instead of the release ones?
[04:32] <klenwell> tvaughn: thank.  here goes...
[04:32] <bergw> i know how to set it up, it's just not jiving
[04:32] <acicula> henkboom_, -lgtk2-dbg ?
[04:33] <bergw> one side works, the other, is just dead, no errors, nothin'
[04:33] <klenwell> tvaughn: one more question: should it be caps (i.e. shift-R, etc)?
[04:33] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: his machine has the tools to get the job done, they're just scattered about on the floor right now.
[04:33] <tvaughn> nope
[04:33] <henkboom_> acicula, ah, there's no way to just swap them in without making changes in the build system?
[04:33] <tvaughn> just hold alt sysrq with one hand and press the letters with the other
[04:33] <Curly_Q> Greezmunkey, then in that case he needs a pair of chop sticks.
[04:33] <tvaughn> raising elephants is so utterly boring
[04:34] <pcgeek32147> dell mini10 inspiron with intel
[04:34] <Johnny_101> tvaughn : Especially with the Dung thing...hee..hee..
[04:34] <klawd> hi!
[04:34] <greezmunkey> Ha, I knew it :)
[04:34] <acicula> henkboom_, you may also have to specify the /usr/lib/debug dir for the linker to find the dbg libs
[04:34] <klawd> i just made an ubuntu update and now my php5 pdo is wrecked and i can't figure out why
[04:34] <patx> How can I change the sound my computer makes when it boots up or logs in?
[04:34] <patx> Can anyone help with that?
[04:35] <patx> Please!?
[04:35] <klawd> it says "could not find driver"
[04:35] <Curly_Q> Roaring Penguin works all of the time and once installed, just enter in the terminal:    ifup eth0    or ifup eth1   etc and you are golden.
[04:35] <tvaughn> !enter
[04:35] <popfizz> Hi guys. I just installed Lucid and although my wireless card seems to be working (I see a few networks available), my own network isn't on the list. Any suggestions?
[04:35] <acicula> henkboom_, well dbg libs are just like normal libs, except much bulkier and slower, you can replace system libs with them, but it may well slow your entire system to a crawl
[04:35] <masterslakk> hey, how do you check the cpu temp in shell?
[04:35] <acicula> masterslakk, sensors
[04:35] <henkboom_> acicula, it installed them in /usr/lib, strangely enough, just adding 'd' suffixes in the names
[04:35] <tvaughn> popfizz: is it under more networks?
[04:35] <greezmunkey> pcgeek32147: have you tried googling for "ubuntu enable hdmi dell mini 10" There is a lot of moaning and groaning about that out there, none of it good.
[04:35] <masterslakk> acicula, that is what you type in the shell?
[04:36] <popfizz> tvaughn: nope, it is not.
[04:36] <henkboom_> hmm, I suppose I could symlink them to /usr/local/lib
[04:36] <tvaughn> masterslakk: yes
[04:36] <masterslakk> acicula, what does +55.0 mean.....
[04:36] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: That may be, and he may want to go there :)
[04:36] <tvaughn> popfizz: is it broadcasting?
[04:36] <popfizz> tvaughn: it appeared a few  minutes ago, but stil wouldn't connect. now it's off the list again
[04:36] <tvaughn> masterslakk: its not negative I'd assume
[04:36] <Curly_Q> :)
[04:36] <popfizz> tvaughn: yes, definitely broadcasting. several windows machines are connected without trouble, and an ubuntu 9.10 machine as well
[04:37] <acicula> henkboom_, imlooking at the package description and it says /usr/lib/debug in the list
[04:37] <masterslakk> tvaughn, does the "+" mean that its above 55 Celsius
[04:37] <masterslakk> or that it's just positive, tvaughn
[04:37] <acicula> henkboom_, mind you its the same as normal libgtk2, so putting it in the ld path twice may confuse the linker
[04:37] <linux_is_my_her1> heres a good one...whats the fastest, and most reliable browser?
[04:37] <linux_is_my_her1> my firefox is acting like s**t
[04:37] <acicula> masterslakk, i'd assume 55C
[04:37] <IdleOne> !polls | linux_is_my_her1
[04:37] <henkboom_> acicula, it's libwxgtk
[04:38] <masterslakk> acicula, so the "+" just means it's positive?
[04:38] <henkboom_> acicula, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-dbg/filelist
[04:38] <Johnny_101> patx : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvYIugyNc2o
[04:38] <acicula> ah
[04:38] <patx> thanks you!
[04:38] <popfizz> *sigh* alright, i'm going back to windows. maybe i'll try to get ubuntu working another day :/
[04:39] <acicula> masterslakk, yeah
[04:39] <popfizz> thanks to those that tried to help.
[04:39] <perhamlinux> hi. after upgrade to lucid, audacious acts weirdly. when I open files,instead of clearing the playlist and opening new files, it just adds them to the previous playlist. how can I revert it to the default action?
[04:39] <klenwell> tvaughn: no luck with REISUB.
[04:40] <Curly_Q> DSL and ADSL are very particular with older machines. Digital Subscriber Line and Asynchronis Digital Subscriber Line are somewhat the same but need specific software.
[04:40] <perhamlinux> hi. after upgrade to lucid, audacious acts weirdly. when I open files,instead of clearing the playlist and opening new files, it just adds them to the previous playlist. how can I revert it to the default action?
[04:41] <alualualu> hello
[04:41] <alualualu> anyone here
[04:41] <alualualu> i need some help
[04:41] <Azerthoth> alualualu, no, no one here
[04:41] <duckwars> i'm stuck at a "status" command on irssi, and I can't quit... any thoughts?
[04:41] <Johnny_101> alualualu : welcome
[04:42] <alualualu> thakk u
[04:42] <Azerthoth> duckwars, /quit
[04:42] <Curly_Q> 1,461 members here, anyone here?
[04:42] <Azerthoth> Curly_Q, nope
[04:42] <acicula> Curly_Q, lots of idlimhg
[04:42] <duckwars> Azerthoth: thanks, but how do I join irc.ubuntu.com? I know /join #ubutu is how you get int he channel
[04:43] <Azerthoth> duckwars, this is freenode.net
[04:43] <Curly_Q> Does anyone want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge?
[04:43] <alualualu> johnny_101
[04:43] <greezmunkey> duckwars: /server irc.ubuntu.com then /j #ubuntu
[04:43] <Johnny_101> alualualu : We are waiting for your question?
[04:43] <Azerthoth> duckwars, and I told you that it is documented @ freenodes website
[04:43] <fox3x> how do u setup tor /ubuntu
[04:43] <fox3x> anyone ?
[04:44] <fox3x> run through proxy for downloads
[04:44] <paul__> Azerthoth: sorry about that, but it's hard for me to access (i have a laptop balancing on my lap, and just command line on this ilnux machien)
[04:44] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[04:45] <atompower> jjkl
[04:45] <paul__> can anyone tell me when I do "sudo shutdown now" and I just go to a blue recovery mode screen, is it something to do that I'm logged in on multiple command lines?
, result: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qxcpYYGY
[04:45] <Johnny_101> ! Tor | fox3x
[04:45] <Azerthoth> paul__, sudo poweroff
[04:45] <raddy> I was using a nvidia equipped laptop
[04:45] <paul__> Azerthoth: thanks so much again!
[04:45] <Johnny_101> alualualu : We are you !
[04:45] <paul__> Azerthoth: so shutdown command is just like logging off or something?
[04:46] <alualualu> yup
[04:46] <LizardK|ng> what would cause pings to be intermittent and tcp connections to fail, but every name lookup to go through just fine?
[04:46] <alualualu> check PM
[04:46] <Azerthoth> paul__, just another way to do it is all
[04:46] <raddy> Suddly my laptop motherboard got broken
[04:46] <paul__> Azerthoth: I shall give this a go
[04:46] <Johnny_101> !ask | alualualu
, still there?
[04:46] <Azerthoth> paul__, shutdown can be set to shutdown at a later time, poweroff is right then
[04:47] <alualualu> can anyone send me a gdm.conf-custom
[04:47] <greezmunkey> __taco: yes, waiting for you to post ifconfig, and ip route...
[04:47] <alualualu> I want to look at it's setting
[04:47] <raddy> now intel based graphics equipped motherboard got replaced.
[04:47] <LizardK|ng> Azerthoth, shutdown is not logging off!
[04:47] <greezmunkey> __taco: my bad, got it.
[04:47] <Guest78018> does ubuntu provide safely remove for usb drives
,what is wrong with it?
[04:47] <klenwell> partition resize to eliminate windows (yay) frozen (boo); REISUB failed; any other options before power-off?
[04:48] <HowDoI> Guest78018, yes it does.  Righ click on the icon on the desktop
[04:48] <LizardK|ng> Guest78018, yes, unmount it
[04:48] <Azerthoth> LizardK|ng, by all rights it should kill you right off
[04:48] <greezmunkey> __taco: nothing, except your default route is wrong.
[04:48] <Johnny_101> Guest78018 : Yes (Right click & Unmount) then you can remove the USB.
[04:48] <paul__> is there some way to make my computer force a countdown on GRUB? It is a headless server, and if powered off via the power button it will not restart with GRUB countdown
[04:49] <greezmunkey> __taco: what are you using to initiate the dsl connection, what script?
, no, I am using it now on XP
[04:49] <alualualu> gdm.conf-custom
[04:49] <greezmunkey> __taco: explain in detail
[04:49] <alualualu> upload it in any file host site
[04:49] <alualualu> pls
, on ubuntu or windows xp?
[04:50] <pcgeek32147> how i update my video card driver
[04:50] <greezmunkey> __taco: no, your network setup. I can't help you if I don't know what you are doing.
, on ubuntu, I use pppoeconf
[04:51] <klenwell> greezmunkey, IdleOne, or tvaughn: REISUB failed.  partition resize still frozen.  should I power-off?
[04:51] <nomende> how to change gnome splash screen?
[04:51] <Johnny_101> !gdm
[04:51] <pcgeek32147> how i update my video card driver
[04:51] <IdleOne> klenwell: I don't see that you have any other choice
[04:52] <otis> hey how do i fix my monitor to not go off i want to watch a movie
[04:52] <__taco> I even try rp-pppoe, it seems work, but it don't actually .
[04:52] <compengi> otis, are you using vlc?
,I even tried rp-pppoe, it seems work, but it don't actually .
[04:52] <DonScott> pcgeek32147: go to system>administration>hardware drivers
[04:53] <otis> what
[04:53] <klenwell> IdleOne: what should I expect?  Will I need to reinstall from scratch?
[04:53] <IdleOne> klenwell: you were formatting a windows partition correct?
[04:53] <klenwell> IdleOne: yes
[04:53] <raddy> please help me
[04:53] <IdleOne> klenwell: ok and you already have ubuntu installed and booting properly?
[04:53] <compengi> otis, what player are you using to watch movies
[04:54] <klenwell> IdleOne: yes
[04:54] <otis> hulu
[04:54] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, looking at the pppoeconf stuff, brb...
[04:54] <Guest78018> anyone got problems with flash 64 bit?
[04:54] <IdleOne> klenwell: you should be fine but you probably will need to format that partition again
[04:54] <raddy> my ubuntu always boots up without window manager
[04:54] <klenwell> IdleOne: whew.  I hope that's the case.  Thanks!
[04:54] <otis> it goes to black like fads out
[04:55] <pcgeek32147> theres no driver
[04:55] <Guest78018> they say ubuntu is for noobs
[04:56] <IdleOne> Guest78018: they are wrong
[04:56] <LizardK|ng> who is they?
[04:56] <eye-zak> Guest78018, no ... i run it cuz 32-bit fails badly
[04:56] <compengi> otis, i'm not sure if it's a common issues, but check the player's preferences and go to system>administration>power manager and increase the ammount of minutes your screen goes black
, it scan network interface that support pppoe, if it found it and go to the next, enter user and password, then the other options all set to default "yes"
[04:57] <otis> ok
[04:57] <pcgeek32147> how i update my video card driver\
[04:57] <Guest78018> eye-zak, can you play videos on youtube
[04:57] <greezmunkey> __taco: yeah, I'm looking at it now...
[04:58] <eye-zak> Guest78018, yes ... embeds sometimes do not work, but my roomate has that problem with 32-bit flash also
[04:58] <IdleOne> Guest78018: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:58] <Guest78018> LizardK|ng, debian users?
[04:58] <eye-zak> Guest78018, you need to make sure u did the right thing with the alternatives system
[04:58] <Guest78018> eye-zak, i cant click on the toolbar at the bottom
[04:58] <otis> ty good help
[04:59] <Guest78018> doesnt seem to work
[04:59] <eye-zak> Guest78018, can't help with that, only installing / uninstalling flash from alternatives system to choose which .so to load for firefox, xulrunner, epiphany, etc
[05:00] <IdleOne> Guest78018: try http://www.youtube.com/html5
[05:00] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, just about there, do you have network manager installed?
[05:01] <Guest78018> btw what is the alternatives system
[05:02] <eye-zak> Guest78018: a system of links to manage which file is used when there are more than one possibility
, I have removed it , because it couldn't connect my wireless networking, so I use wicd in stead.
[05:02] <anthony_> hi. I just installed 10.4 and have no audio. can anybody advise me?
[05:04] <greezmunkey> __taco: ok, so then you are left with editing ppp scripts. Are you using the pon, and poff methods to connect and disconnect?
[05:05] <IdleOne> !sound > anthony_
[05:05] <nagendra> kindly tell the procedure to connect to internet using usb modem.
[05:05] <__taco> no, I use pppoeconf directlly
[05:05] <nagendra> the result for "wvdialconf" is
[05:05] <__taco> greezmunkey, no, I use pppoeconf directlly
[05:05] <nagendra> Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'.
[05:05] <nagendra> Scanning your serial ports for a modem.
[05:05] <nagendra> Modem Port Scan<*1>: S0   S1   S2   S3
[05:05] <nagendra> Sorry, no modem was detected!  Is it in use by another program?
[05:05] <nagendra> Did you configure it properly with setserial?
[05:05] <FloodBot3> nagendra: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <nagendra> Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial
[05:06] <greezmunkey> __taco: then you are not doing it correctly I think, look here, and read the entire thing! :http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Connecting_an_Ubuntu_Linux_System_to_a_DSL_Modem
[05:07] <anthony_> ubottu: thanks for your help!  I saw a message about my driver when i installed, and couldn't get rhythmbox to work. But now i realize that amarok and system sounds are working, so i will come back after further research. thanks again
[05:07] <__taco> greezmunkey, ok, I will try it again.
[05:07] <greezmunkey> __taco: work through that, I think you'll be ok :)
[05:08] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i get ubuntu to see computers on a microsoft windows network and make it so it will share a folder with them?
[05:08] <nagendra> usb modem is not detected in ubuntu 9.10. what should i do?
[05:08] <GeekSquid> !samba | linux_is_my_hero
[05:09] <LizardK|ng> what would cause pings to be intermittent and tcp connections to fail, but every name lookup to go through just fine?
[05:09] <userr> alguem sabe me dizer como eu faço pra maximizar minhas janelas no ubuntu 10.04? antes estava conseguindo fazer isso mas fui fuçar numa tal de acesso universal, ae as janelas não maximizao mais
[05:11] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:11] <userr> anyone know tell me how I do to maximize my windows on ubuntu 10:04? before he was able to do this but I was in such a tweak of universal access to and the windows not more maximizao?
[05:11] <GeekSquid> !es | userr
[05:11] <Appl6> GeekSquid: Try Portuguese.
[05:11] <raddy> Where is wm related configs are stored in ubuntu
[05:11] <eye-zak> raddy: what specifically are u looking fo
[05:11] <GeekSquid> !br | userr
[05:11] <userr> ok
[05:12] <GeekSquid> Appl6 thank you , I knew it was latin
[05:12] <Name141> is it possible to 'search' , like you would in sympatic (or whatever), using sudo apt-get ?
[05:13] <Name141> Search for the package you need*
[05:13] <xangua> GeekSquid: latin is a dead language...
[05:13] <raddy> eye-zak: compiz related.
[05:13] <franc> Name141: apt-cache search <pckage name>
[05:13] <eye-zak> raddy: specifically, exactly what
[05:13] <GeekSquid> xangua: only as latin as english
[05:13] <eye-zak> Name141, apt-cache search -n <name> or apt-cache search <text in name or description>
[05:14] <Name141> brother-cups-wrapper-bh7 - Cups Wrapper drivers for bh7 brother printers
[05:14] <Name141> that worked
[05:14] <alualualu> gdm.conf
[05:14] <alualualu> can ayone give me that file
[05:14] <userr> anyone know tell me how I do to maximize my windows on ubuntu 10:04? before he was able to do this but I was in such a tweak of universal access to and the windows not more maximizao?
[05:14] <Name141> Is it possible to install a printer without logging in to a GUI ?
[05:15] <Name141> (after I get the packages)
[05:15] <chegney> I've got a base system installed, can someone give me steps some good steps for getting just X gnome gdm and openbox installed
[05:15] <greezmunkey> xangua: don't tell the Pope that...
[05:15] <chegney> I don't want a bunch of junk installed
[05:15] <eye-zak> alualualu, you can extract all files in a .deb package (ie gdm) with dpkg -x <pkg>.deb output folder .. then find gdm.conf in that dir
[05:15] <eye-zak> chegney, do you know how to use aptitude
[05:16] <greezmunkey> chegney: what do you consider to be "junk"?
[05:16] <histo> I have ubuntu on usb with a persistant casper file of 512mb. Is there a way to boot it without it being persistant temporarily?  I just want to show someone a few things.
[05:16] <chegney> eye-zak: yes, I'm just wondering if there is a metapackage I can use to acomplish this
[05:16] <eye-zak> histo, at boot remove the persistent option from the command line for the kernel
[05:16] <compaq> any recommendation for a manual?  one that has the lspci, lsmod, grep, commands in there?
[05:16] <histo> eye-zak: gotcha
[05:17] <histo> I'll reboot and try
[05:17] <eye-zak> chegney, not really 'ubuntu-desktop' is the meta for gnome ubuntu desktop gdm and gnome-session have all major dependencies to start an xsession
[05:17] <GeekSquid> histo: make a copy of it
[05:17] <histo> compaq: you can man <command name> at a terminal
[05:17] <histo> GeekSquid: make a copy of what?
[05:17] <eye-zak> chegney, install openbox first, so it can be used to satisfy x-window-manager dependency
[05:17] <chegney> eye-zak: does ubuntu-desktop install games and stuff too?
[05:18] <histo> chegney: yes
[05:18] <histo> chegney: apps > games
[05:18] <eye-zak> histo, this means you will not have any changes you made on your casper-rw
[05:18] <chegney> histo: okay, I don't want that then
[05:18] <histo> eye-zak: yes. I don't want them to save.
[05:18] <histo> chegney: you can remove them
[05:18] <greezmunkey> chegney: they are easily removed
[05:18] <chegney> so if I install openbox, it should install all the xorg stuff, including drivers?
[05:18] <duckwars> I have samba running, and I changed the config file, and I want restart to restart, but sudo /etc/init.d samba restart but it doesn't work, i have 9.10
[05:18] <histo> chegney: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:18] <eye-zak> chegney, you can mark a bunch of things and then see what they mark as a consequence (undo menu is your friend)
[05:19] <chegney> histo: minimal system
[05:19] <lyrae> guys
[05:19] <histo> chegney: you can install ubuntu-minimal and hand pick packages for your X
[05:19] <greezmunkey> duckwars: sudo service nmbd restart should do it.
[05:19] <eye-zak> chegney, in the preferences for aptitude, set Install-Recommends to false to limit dependencies to only those which are necessary
[05:19] <GeekSquid> Histo: the usb, I mean that your sys tem is persistant , which means changes are saved, make a copy and the origional is intact
[05:19] <eye-zak> chegney, start with ubuntu-standard it has bash-completion and a few extra niceties
[05:19] <lyrae> The envenlope icon in the taskbar is gone. i cant start pidgin or be notifed of new messages
[05:20] <histo> chegney: there are directions int he wiki for low memeroy systems that might be of help for you. they talk about building a minimal system ground up.
[05:20] <duckwars> greezmunkey; nmbd: unrecognized service
[05:20] <histo> GeekSquid: ahh i'm going to try disabling them on boot first.
[05:20] <greezmunkey> duckwars: then try sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:20] <histo> brb
[05:20] <sCOTTo> hey guys - anyone here running VMWARE ?
[05:20] <sCOTTo> !vmware
[05:21] <duckwars> greezemunkey: ok, i swear i was doing that and it wasn't working but this time it did,  I think my computer wants me to look like a fool before it works... thank you
[05:21] <tvaughn> IdleOne: just a confirmation REISUB does work
[05:21] <greezmunkey> duckwars: join the club :)
[05:21] <IdleOne> tvaughn: thought so. he may have been doing it wrong
[05:22] <chegney> histo: ubuntu-minimal doesn't show as a meta-package
[05:22] <tvaughn> someone mentioned it not working in 10.04 so i checked
[05:22] <tvaughn> had to do some stuff in windows while the pc was rebooted
[05:22] <tvaughn> hated it :s
[05:23] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: that was me, what exactly did you do to make it work. I had to try it here, and it didn't/
[05:23] <tvaughn> greezmunkey: you using right or left alt?
[05:23] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: right
[05:23] <tvaughn> did none of the keys work?
[05:23] <tvaughn> I've seen B not work before
[05:23] <sCOTTo> :(
[05:24] <Guest78018> can ubuntu be hack
[05:24] <sCOTTo> lol
[05:24] <broseidon> has anyone had issues with 64 bit 10.04 server install crapping out on the bootloader/install software step?  I'm using encrypted LVM and encrypted home directory, on one machine when I changed those options it worked
[05:24] <sCOTTo> can windows ?
[05:24] <Guest78018> sometimes y
[05:24] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: my system was probably so borked that none of them did. I watched the HDD indicator as I ran through the keys (pausing about 10 seconds between them) but saw no activity.
[05:25] <histo> !info ubuntu-minimal | chegney
[05:25] <tvaughn> the U should kill your display
[05:25] <histo> chegney: let me find you that link hold up
[05:25] <eye-zak> histo: i'll have to learn how to use ubottu
[05:25] <tvaughn> er not the U..
[05:25] <histo> eye-zak: its nice
[05:25] <eye-zak> histo: as i see
[05:25] <LizardK|ng> ubuntu is only 60k???
[05:26] <histo> chegney: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[05:26] <GeekSquid> !ubottu | eye-zak
[05:26] <tvaughn> I love that bot
[05:26] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: it literally did nothing, that's why I looked into it. I found a *lot* of posts regarding it being broken in Lucid, and that was confirmed here. Maybe it has been fixed in an update. I haven't had a severe lockup since, so haven't needed it.
[05:26] <tvaughn> I love you ubottu
[05:26] <tvaughn> aw
[05:26] <onetinsoldier> !botsnack
[05:27] <tvaughn> greezmunkey: the e would kill the screen if I'm reading this right
[05:28] <greezmunkey> tvaughn: agreed. I used it a couple of times in 9.10, and you could tell it was working - no doubt about it.
[05:29] <chegney> in aptitude, I don't see a package for gnome or gnome-desktop
[05:29] <tvaughn> greezmunkey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key this documents other key options
[05:29] <tvaughn> chegney: ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <chegney> tvaughn: but that installs all sorts of things I don't want
[05:29] <tvaughn> hm
[05:30] <onetinsoldier> chegney: try.. gnome-desktop-environment
[05:30] <Name141> Is there any more terminal based IRC clients than irssi ?
[05:30] <__taco> greezmunkey, thx ,  I hope so, I will try it later
[05:30] <tvaughn> chegney: it's a metapackage and you can check what it references
[05:31] <tvaughn> Name141: bitchX i think
[05:31] <Name141> !bitchx
[05:31] <tvaughn> ohh
[05:31] <greezmunkey> __taco: the pon and poff scripts should complete the routing statments you need to make it work!
[05:31] <Name141> weechat ? hm
[05:31] <tvaughn> there's weechat :P
[05:31] <Guest78018> whats that
[05:31] <ryanmcgrath> Hey-o - let's say I compiled a driver, installed it and all, and it seems to have gone fine. Ubuntu 9.04, drivers for the Belkin N 150 USB wireless dongle (rt270sta, fyi). modprobe -i and all *looks* like it went alright, but the thing isn't loaded, and the dongle still isn't recognized. Anybody know where else I should look?
[05:32] <bsmith093> in pidgin what does the persistent chat mean?
[05:32] <Guest78018> means that your chat stays on
[05:33] <bsmith093> even without the program running or without the chat window open?
[05:33] <xangua> bsmith093: it means that even if you close the channel's tab/windows, you will be remain coneccted and receive messages
[05:33] <bsmith093> ahh ok thanks
[05:33] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: does lsmod show the module loaded?
[05:34] <userr> depois que eu dei esse comando: gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties nunca mais minhas janelas foram as mesmas, elas não maximizam
[05:34] <ryanmcgrath> Yeah
[05:34] <bsmith093> also is there a rot13 automatic thing for gedit like there is for vi
[05:34] <userr> help-me!
[05:34] <xangua> !pt
[05:34] <ryanmcgrath> It's so strange.
[05:34] <ryanmcgrath> dmesg also shows that loading it went fine
[05:34] <Guest78018> userr, what can i do for you
[05:35] <ryanmcgrath> Hmmm
[05:35] <ryanmcgrath> There are some other rt USB drivers installed
[05:35] <ryanmcgrath> Perhaps if I blacklist them...
[05:35] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: have you tried unplugging the dongle, and replacing it? If not, in a terminal type: tail -f /var/log/messages - then do it. It will give you some feedback.
[05:36] <ryanmcgrath> Ah thanks. I was trying to figure out what dmesg logged to/from, wanted to tail it
[05:36] <tvaughn> dmesg is its own isnt it?
[05:36] <ryanmcgrath> Looks to be the same log
[05:36] <ryanmcgrath> Anyway
[05:36] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: yeah, kernel messages don't cha know...
[05:36] <ryanmcgrath> Says "new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 6"
[05:36] <ryanmcgrath> "configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[05:37] <klenwell> greezmunkey, IdleOne, or tvaughn: rebooted my computer and it looks like the partition resize succeeded despite freeze.  thanks again for all your help!
[05:37] <Guest78018> np
[05:37] <greezmunkey> klenwell: heh, that's good news :)
[05:37] <tvaughn> klenwell: thats because it writes to the disk when you resize it
[05:37] <ryanmcgrath> So I mean it's picking up the USB device, right...
[05:37] <ryanmcgrath> It's just not doing anything with it, it seems
[05:38] <chegney> okay, I did ubuntu-desktop, but it looks like setting install-recommends to false turned a bunch of non-essential stuff off
[05:38] <bsmith093> how do i load more plugins for gedit
[05:38] <ryanmcgrath> Wait wait
[05:38] <klenwell> tvaughn: good to know.  thanks.
[05:38] <ryanmcgrath> is there by any chance a generic wireless package I need for this to work?
[05:38] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i get hardware drivers for ubuntu server when the server doesnt have drivers for its wifi card?
[05:38] <Guest78018> try searching for it
[05:38] <ryanmcgrath> My network connections don't show any kind of options to even recognize wireless connections
[05:38] <tvaughn> anyone happen to have an iPhone?
[05:39] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i identify my wifi card from the tty?
[05:39] <amine> lspci | grep -i "network"
[05:40] <linux_is_my_hero> is there a chat for ubuntu server?
[05:40] <Guest78018> yeah right here
[05:40] <chegney> chat as in irc?
[05:40] <chegney> channel?
[05:40] <cowbud> try #ubuntu-server :)
[05:40] <GeekSquid> linux_is_my_hero: #ubuntu-server
[05:41] <BabyJesus> Hey
[05:41] <ryanmcgrath> So wait
[05:42] <ryanmcgrath> Is there something I need to do to get gnome network manager to pick up the wireless driver?
[05:42] <linux_is_my_hero> GeekSquid: thanks! :-)
[05:42] <eye-zak> ryanmcgrath, some hal magic maybe
[05:42] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: I had to go through that rt2870sta business with a linksys 600N, I had to blcaklist something, but don't recall now. I don't use it here anymore.
[05:42] <anthony__> hi to all of you guys
[05:42] <BabyJesus> I tried burning a DVD, and it failed. This is the log: http://pastebay.com/99999
[05:42] <ryanmcgrath> eye-zak: hal?
[05:42] <Guest78018> hi anthony_
[05:42] <imperfect-> Anyone know why I wouldnt have composite extensions enabled on lucid by default?
[05:43] <BabyJesus> Just wondering if there was any indication whether it was a software issue, or a bad DVD?
[05:43] <xangua> imperfect-: you mean compiz or metacity compositing¿
[05:43] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: you placed the driver in the modules directory as well right?
[05:43] <anthony__> where will i go to see the hashes for ubuntu 10.04 i don't know the url. pls help me...
[05:43] <ryanmcgrath> Yep
[05:43] <imperfect-> xangua: when i try ti enable effects I get the composite extension not available
[05:44] <imperfect-> using Nvidia GTX280
[05:44] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: did you restart networking?
[05:44] <ryanmcgrath> Hmmm
[05:44] <ryanmcgrath> How do I wanna do that?
[05:44] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:44] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: that's the old way, but it works
[05:44] <linux_is_my_hero> alright how do install "hwinfo" on my ubuntu server just using another computer that has internet, or the ubuntu server 10.4 live cd?
[05:45] <linux_is_my_hero> my server has a wifi card that needs drivers so i can get to the internet and actually make it a server for when im away from home.
[05:45] <tvaughn> linux_is_my_hero: try a cat5 cable?
[05:45] <Guest78018> looks like your log is not complete
[05:45] <tvaughn> or a .deb file on a flash drive
[05:45] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: what type of wifi card?
[05:46] <xfact> Hello yell
[05:46] <BabyJesus> Guest78018, my log?
[05:46] <ryanmcgrath> Hmmm
[05:46] <histo> !offline | linux_is_my_hero
[05:46] <ryanmcgrath> Restarting it did nothing
[05:46] <anthony__> where will i go to see the hashes for ubuntu 10.04 i don't know the url. pls help me...i just what to verify that i have download ubuntu 10.04 right.
[05:46] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: i dont know, thats why im trying to get hwinfo
[05:46] <imperfect-> compositing has neve rbeen an issue before I dunno what the deal is
[05:46] <Guest78018> yeah
[05:46] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: well you can use lspci to find the info
[05:46] <anthony__> pls help
[05:46] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: no need for hwinfo
[05:46] <ryanmcgrath> So I mean if I right click on the network icon in the task bar, it has no options whatsoever for "enable/disable" wireless
[05:46] <chemuduguntar> hi all
[05:46] <histo> ryanmcgrath: left click
[05:47] <chemuduguntar> anyone know how to fetch uuid's of a partitions
[05:47] <histo> chemuduguntar: blkid
[05:47] <xfact> I dunno why my CPU stat is always high 90-100%, is that normal?
[05:47] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: you mentioned additional rt drivers, that rings a bell, can you bl them.
[05:47] <ryanmcgrath> Left click has nothing but a blank wired slate and an option for VPN stuff
[05:47] <mataks> im new to ubunut.. how to make a workgroup on a network?
[05:47] <chemuduguntar> histo, thanks! :D
[05:47] <Guest78018> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[05:47] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: awesome, thanks :-)
[05:47] <histo> !samba | mataks
[05:47] <ryanmcgrath> I'm doing so now, greezmunkey
[05:47] <BabyJesus> Oh, you're correct
[05:47] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: tell me what kind it is like bcm43xx most likely
[05:47] <BabyJesus> PasteBay must have cut it off
[05:47] <mataks> histo,  ok thanks i'll try
[05:48] <anthony__> thx to all
[05:48] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: RaLink RT2800 802.11n PCI
[05:48] <linux_is_my_hero> its a linksys dual-antenna high-gain. it works great when it has drivers! :-)
[05:48] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: hold up let me check something
[05:49] <greezmunkey> linux_is_my_hero: I think a lspci will give you the chipset
[05:49] <tvaughn> I've got a netgear card that won't work either :P
[05:49] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: i thought that had drivers in the newer kernels
[05:49] <BabyJesus> Guest78018, here's just the last of it: http://pastebay.com/100003
[05:49] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: lsmod | grep rt2    see if that shows any output
[05:49] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: how do i install hardware drivers from the tty?
[05:49] <tvaughn> 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) << is this supported?
[05:49] <Scunizi> geeez... I would have been a whole lot faster reinstalling then going the upgrade route... going on 3 hours now..
[05:50] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: whoa, that's a long time, slow Internet?/
[05:50] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: it shows rt2860sta
[05:50] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: then its loaded
[05:50] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: now you need to configure the card to connect to your network.
[05:51] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: not normally.. using bittorrents I downloaded the ISO in less than 6 minutes.. and everything else screams.. but looks like the repo's that I'm using for the upgrade are only giving me bandwidth from 64kB/s to 140kB/s .. not what I would call fast
[05:52] <tvaughn> need bittorrent repos :P
[05:52] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: how do i do that?
[05:52] <Scunizi> that would be good
[05:52] <Guest78018> dude have you tried burning it again
[05:52] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: never done this without a GUI :-D
[05:52] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: typing iwconfig in a terminal by itself will give you the interfaces. Then you can type iwconfig --help to see a list of options.  Then just sudo iwconfig options....
[05:52] <BabyJesus> No, I'm about to
[05:52] <chelz> tvaughn: apt-torrent
[05:52] <tvaughn> i was kidding, it exists?
[05:53] <BabyJesus> I just wasn't sure if maybe it wasn't the DVD
[05:53] <Scunizi> chelz: is there such a thing?
[05:53] <BabyJesus> I'll try again, maybe limiting the speed to 2X
[05:53] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: then to make the changes persistant so they are there on reboot You will have to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:53] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: assuming this is a command line system
[05:53] <greezmunkey> Scunizi: yeah, bummer - I had the same problem, and even then it didn't work that great. I decided to cut and run, instelled clean. Thank this room for me having a seperate /home!
[05:53] <Guest78018> ok good idea
[05:53] <chelz> Scunizi: i think the project is dead, but yeah. there's also apt-p2p based on gnutella
[05:53] <ryanmcgrath> Hmmm
[05:53] <Wyzerd> BabyJesus: burn at the slowest possible speed.
[05:53] <jabagawee> hi, i have byobu/screen set up to run on start up, and everytime i try to open more than one putty window, the newest window closes the older one
[05:53] <ryanmcgrath> So blacklisting them did nothing, really
[05:53] <chelz> Scunizi: all the cool kids use apt-fast these days tho
[05:53] <tvaughn> apt-p2p is in the repos
[05:54] <Wyzerd> jabagawee: read the man page for screen?
[05:54] <BabyJesus> Haha. I hatttteee waiting for it, but I'll try it
[05:54] <ryanmcgrath> Hmmm
[05:54] <jokecure> hello, anyone know how i can get admin access to ubuntu 10.04?
[05:54] <tvaughn> sudo su
[05:54] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: yes this is a command-line only ubuntu 10.4 x64 server
[05:54] <histo> !sudo > jokecure
[05:54] <ryanmcgrath> greezmunkey: When I lsmod after a reboot, the driver shows up with a 0 instead of a 1 - any idea if that's significant?
[05:54] <jokecure> k
[05:54] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: how do i get a list of availible wireless networks?
[05:54] <jabagawee> Wyzerd: weird thing is that i _know_ screen can run on two separate terminals to connect to the same session
[05:54] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: no idea, sorry.
[05:54] <tvaughn> jabagawee: screen -x
[05:55] <greezmunkey> ryanmcgrath: I have to get something to eat - later, and good luck :)
[05:55] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: sudo iwlist scan
[05:55] <Scunizi> greezmunkey: I always recommend a separate /home :)... I did the upgrade on my ubuntu box (upgrading kubuntu now) and that went pretty quick.. left me with polkitd eating my ram and burning my cpu cycles.. found out I had to delete .pulseaudio in ~ to get it back to normal again..
[05:55] <Wyzerd> jabagawee: indeed.  You shoudl still read the man page, because unless irts a bug you are doing something wrong.
[05:55] <chelz> jokecure: depends on what you want to do
[05:55] <Scunizi> chelz: what's apt-fast?  never heard of it.
[05:55] <histo> jabagawee: yes it can what are you trying to do?
[05:56] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: it says my hardware doesnt support scanning.
[05:56] <Wyzerd> Scunizi: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/improve-apt-get-install-and-upgrade.html
[05:56] <jokecure> how can allow my ntfs drive read and write access?
[05:56] <jabagawee> histo, Wyzerd, tvaughn: i understand how to run screen, but it's this combination of byobu auto-starting on login and putty that's messing around
[05:56] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: there should be multiple interfaces listed if you have more than one network card
[05:56] <Wyzerd> jokecure: just mount teh drive.  It can read/write once its mounted.
[05:56] <histo> jabagawee: not familiar with byobu
[05:56] <jokecure> ah ok
[05:56] <jokecure> it is mounted
[05:57] <jabagawee> histo: alright, thanks anyways. i guess i'll just go without autostarting
[05:57] <jokecure> im trying to get wow to work with wine but wine won't boot wow
[05:57] <Wyzerd> jokecure: wine cant be on yoru Windows partition, it needs to be installed in yoru C drive in Wine, in your linux host.
[05:57] <histo> jabagawee: ahh byobu looks nice thats just preferences
[05:57] <Wyzerd> wow*
[05:58] <jokecure> i think it is heh
[05:58] <Scunizi> Wyzerd: nice
[05:58] <jokecure> i installed ubuntu today and installed wine from terminal
[05:58] <dhruvasagar> Hi
[05:58] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: i only have one. i took my ethernet card out to make room for my wifi card.
[05:58] <jabagawee> histo: turns out that you can't run byobu more than once. the "correct" way to run it is to run byobu once, then use screen -x to make more terminals
[05:58] <Scunizi> jokecure: gold star on the first.. frown on the second
[05:58] <histo> jabagawee: what is the problem wtih screen thought that you are experiencing I didn't understand  your original question
[05:58] <Unholy1> When will Suspend and Hibernate problems be fixed?
[05:58] <jokecure> rofl
[05:58] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: wait i have wired also.
[05:58] <ryanmcgrath> Huh - dunno if anyone else has any ideas, but I have a wireless driver compiled/installed/loaded, but network manager doesn't recognize it at all.
[05:59] <chelz> Unholy1: few more hours
[05:59] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: it says that none of the interfaces support scanning?
[05:59] <Wyzerd> jokecure: you need to download wine, download WoW and install it on your Linux partition's C drive that WINE created.  Anything else will NOT work.  Trying to launch wOw off of your windows drive in a linux host is not going to work, obviously.
[05:59] <Unholy1> kewl chelz
[05:59] <jabagawee> histo: byobu just loved to screw with me. problem solved :P
[05:59] <InvaderZim> Just had a horrible update from 9.10 to 10.04. Logging in KDM the screen blinks and returns to KDM. X logs has fatal error, tells me framemapping range problem. Something about the driver, SAVAGE it seems. If I try to failsafe X to vesa, the pc hangs. Help?
[05:59] <joeGuy> hey i hit ctrl-alt-f1. how do i get back to my session?
[05:59] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: does it show wireless extensions on any of them when you just use iwconfig
[05:59] <jokecure> k
[05:59] <jabagawee> joeGuy: ctrl alt f7
[05:59] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: i type in sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID "LibertyWiFi" and i get SET failed on device wlan0 ; Network is down.
[05:59] <Unholy1> When I go to hibernate it looks like my screen is trying to eat itself
[05:59] <Wyzerd> InvaderZim: install properly.  Backup and install instead of upgrade.  Upgrades ALWAYS have problems.  Always.
[06:00] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:00] <Wyzerd> joeGuy: ctrl alt f7 or f8
[06:00] <Loshki> Unholy1: I assume chelz was joking...
[06:00] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: just type iwconfig by itself
[06:00] <InvaderZim> Wyzerd: well the icon was telling me to upgrade, so I clicked on it
[06:00] <Unholy1> Loshki: yeah I thought the same
[06:00] <ryanmcgrath> Huh, strange... rt2870 has been in the kernel itself since 2.6.9
[06:00] <Loshki> Unholy1: ok, just checking...
[06:00] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: does it show an interface with wireless extensions
[06:00] <ryanmcgrath> So this shouldn't be a problem I feel like.
[06:00] <ryanmcgrath> It's not an issue with the driver, it's something else.
[06:01] <ryanmcgrath> It reads the USB hardware...
[06:01] <chelz> Unholy1: troubleshooting hibernate is pretty wild stuff
[06:01] <linux_is_my_hero> only for the wlan0
[06:01] <Wyzerd> InvaderZim: yeah, well, perhaps you shoudl have read up on what upgrading does to computers.  I suggest googling some info about upgrading vs fresh installations.
[06:01] <ryanmcgrath> Any idea where the disconnect is?
[06:01] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: wlan0 has interfaces, but eth0 doesn't.
[06:01] <Unholy1> Loshki: I was being optomistic, it sucks to not have Suspend or Hibernate working, have to shutdown everytime I leave the computer
[06:01] <InvaderZim> Wyzerd: that's not a fix
[06:01] <chelz> Unholy1: usually takes a few hours to track down the issue and report the relevant bugs for an experienced ubuntu user
[06:01] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: okay then sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:01] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: Do you have the module loaded for your ethernet card?
[06:01] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: that should show you a list of networks within range
[06:02] <Wyzerd> InvaderZim: I never claimed it was a fix.  It was a suggestion that you should follow so that you dont come here whining about problems that could have been avoided.
[06:02] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: "interface doesnt support scanning : network is down"
[06:02] <Loshki> chelz: Unholy1: agreed. It's difficult stuff. Might take a very long time to get fixed...
[06:02] <Unholy1> chelz: I appreciate the difficulties the developers go through, but this has been goin on for weeks
[06:02] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:02] <chelz> Unholy1: well if you want to go through the motions, there is info on how to work it all out: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:ubuntuforums.org+suspend+troubleshooting+ubuntu
[06:02] <InvaderZim> ok anyone can HELP me instead of being a jerk?
[06:02] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: put a sudo infront of the ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:02] <Unholy1> Chelz: Ill help any way I can but I'm no prgrammer
[06:03] <histo> soreau: It shouldnt' matter if the interface is down for scanning though right?
[06:03] <Wyzerd> InvaderZim: the only one being a *jerk* here is the person who is too rude to properly ask for help and insists that everyone should drop what they are doing to help them.
[06:03] <chelz> Unholy1: that's not necessary, it just takes time and patience reading
[06:03] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: i did the first time
[06:03] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: after the ifconfig up now try to scan again
[06:03] <tvaughn> !patience | InvaderZim
[06:04] <Unholy1> chelz: thanks, Ill read tommorow when Im sober ;)
[06:04] <chelz> Unholy1: good luck :)
[06:04] <ryanmcgrath> Would a USB wireless drive show up as wlan0 or not?
[06:04] <imperfect-> Anyone have any guidance on my composite issue?
[06:04] <soreau> histo: It must be up for scanning
[06:04] <sudaya> hi all, i have ubutu 9.04 in my server how can i update kernel version
[06:05] <Loshki> InvaderZim: sounds like your upgrade went really badly. I hope you made a backup. You might have to go back to 9.10....
[06:05] <chelz> sudaya: kernel versions are tied to the version of ubuntu. to get a newer kernel you must upgrade ubuntu.
[06:05] <Scunizi> 1% left on downloading the new packages for the upgrade.. like watching paint dry.. hope it doesn't bork my dual monitor setup
[06:05] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: looks like there is a bug possibly with that driver also i'm reading about it now
[06:05] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: its working
[06:05] <Wyzerd> sudaya: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:05] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: how do i connect to a particular network of choice?
[06:05] <Wyzerd> sudaya: please ignore that link.  Its too old.
[06:05] <chelz> Wyzerd: that's not exactly supported. also won't get security updates that way.
[06:05] <linux_is_my_hero> i have 3 wifi hotspots i can get to from here
[06:05] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: you use iwconfig
[06:05] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: If it is wpa encryption, you might need wpa_supplicant
[06:06] <Wyzerd> linux_is_my_hero: are any of them yours or public? Using someone elses wifi without consent is a crime.
[06:06] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid channel # key blahblah...
[06:06] <linux_is_my_hero> they are public and no wpa or wep
[06:06] <xiaoyang> 大家好阿
[06:06] <chelz> !cn | xiaoyang
[06:06] <Wyzerd> chelz: didnt ask about supported kernal updates, asked about kernal updates.
[06:06] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: then jsut sudo iwconfig wlan0 channel # nameofnetwork
[06:07] <xiaoyang> 初始接触liunx 希望大家都
[06:07] <Wyzerd> linux_is_my_hero: just because they are open and not encrypted does not mean it is legal for you to use these connections.
[06:07] <sudaya> chelz: cant i update kernel only to 2.6.32.xx
[06:07] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: after you dot hat then you will have to use sudo dhclient  to get an ip
[06:07] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: Then do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "essid here" && sudo dhclient wlan0
[06:07] <histo> linux_is_my_hero: yes follow soreau I had a typo wtihthe essid nameofnetwork thing
[06:08] <xiaoyang> glad to jion
[06:08] <xiaoyang> how to use it
[06:09] <GeekSquid> xiaoyang: /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:09] <beatbreaker> histo, i need advice on installing drivers for Radeon HD 4000 Series - is there a guide somewhere? what's the best way to in stall drivers for ATI?? the pripetery dirvers always fail
[06:09] <massimopet2002> ciao
[06:09] <massimopet2002> !list
[06:09] <chelz> sudaya: to get updates for your kernel through ubuntu, you have to use kernels from ubuntu.
[06:09] <beatbreaker> sorry that was to everyone
[06:09] <soreau> beachbrake: In 10.04, the radeon driver has 3D working by default
[06:09] <soreau> beachbrake: So you wouldnt need the proprietary driver
[06:10] <histo> !ati > beatbreaker
[06:10] <linux_is_my_hero> it says "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[06:10] <soreau> histo: The ati factoid is very misleading
[06:10] <histo> soreau: you can offer up a suggestion to ubottu to fix it.
[06:10]  * Wyzerd wishes that everyone wouldnt use the bot to answer questions that the bot doesnt know the answer to.  Just sayin'.....
[06:10] <soreau> histo: how?
[06:11] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: it says "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[06:11] <xiaoyang> ...
[06:11] <GeekSquid> !ubottu | histo
[06:11] <linux_is_my_hero> histo: brb, if youre not here when i get back, thanks for all yourhelp. ;-)
[06:11] <histo> GeekSquid: I know what ubottu is
[06:11] <digital1> hi
[06:12] <histo> soreau: see above
[06:12] <histo> soreau: the usage link
[06:14] <digital1> because on boot i see: An error occurred while mounting /proc/bus/usb Press S skip mounting or M for manual recovery. I want skip for ever
[06:14] <soreau> histo: I dont see anything with that type of information there
[06:14] <imperfect-> so..
[06:14] <jmichaelx> chromium browser makes a stupid sound whenever one of its window buttons is clicked. could someone tell me how i could make it stop doing this?
[06:14] <imperfect-> Anyoneknow how I can enable RANDR and Composite?
[06:15] <soreau> digital1: There is probably an fstab entry
[06:15] <Wyzerd> jmichaelx: open the sound preferences (applet in panel) and choose to not have sounds on.
[06:15] <emes> all GTK apps are hanging for like 15 seconds before opening a file dialog, any ideas?
[06:16] <digital1> soreau: it's possible adgiust error
[06:16] <histo> soreau: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins
[06:16] <bsmith093> how do i add rot13 plugin to gedit?
[06:16] <bsmith093> just to stop shoulder surfing
[06:16] <Wyzerd> emes: upgrade hardware?  Sounhds like a slow computer.
[06:16] <emes> Wyzerd: yeah, no
[06:16] <jmichaelx> Wyzerd: i have already selected that... problem is, i use kubuntu (but have gnome installed as well)
[06:16] <emes> Wyzerd: Phenom 4X, SSD
[06:17] <Wyzerd> emes: is it a clean install?
[06:17]  * Scunizi seems to remember something special you have to install for SSD
[06:17] <chelz> bsmith093: privacy screens are better for that
[06:17] <bsmith093> what is that?
[06:17] <emes> Wyzerd: upgraded from 9.10. didn't happen before
[06:17] <histo> Scunizi: not that I know of
[06:17] <Scunizi> k
[06:18] <chelz> bsmith093: http://www.google.com/products?q=privacy+screen
[06:18] <soreau> histo: Do I register with the bot or the factoid change would be forwarded somewhere for approval?
[06:18] <jmichaelx> Wyzerd: without gnome installed, kubuntu does not do this. however, with gnome installed, chromioum browser and firefox both make these stupid sounds, even if they are turned off in gnome.
[06:18] <chelz> jmichaelx: is it like a quick drumbeat?
[06:18] <histo> soreau: I'm pretty sure it gets forwarded for approval
[06:18] <Wyzerd> emes: I suggest a clean install.  There are ALWAYS problems with upgrades.  I never suggest upgrading, and spending a few days in here should answer the question "why?", just look at all of the people complaining about upgrades.  I highly suggest doing a backup and a clean install.
[06:19] <CR3AL> I got a annoying problem with my wireless internet connection, anyone down to help?
[06:19] <chelz> jmichaelx: go to "System >> Preferences >> Sound" and disable system sounds is one way, is that satisfactory?
[06:19] <jmichaelx> chelz: well, it was in firefox. to stop that, i renamed an audio file in /usr/share/souns/ubuntu/stereo
[06:19] <chelz> jmichaelx: sure, that's one way
[06:19] <Wyzerd> !ask | CR3AL
[06:20] <CR3AL> alright
[06:20] <histo> bsmith093: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gedit#Plugins
[06:20] <jmichaelx> chelz: i already explaned that didn't work. it stopped those sounds in gnome, but not in kde
[06:20] <emes> Wyzerd: if I wanted to reinstall on upgrades, I'd be using windows
[06:20] <chelz> jmichaelx: kde has a different place for system sounds
[06:20] <Scunizi> I have a samba share on an ubuntu server.. when I'm on another ubuntu box do I mount that share using samba or something else?
[06:20] <omfarka> hello, is there any program in linux like system restore in windows
[06:21] <ryanmcgrath> Hey
[06:21] <histo> bsmith093: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[06:21] <ryanmcgrath> How can I check and see if something is already installed (via apt-get)?
[06:21] <Scunizi> omfarka: yep.. called reinstall.. :)
[06:21] <histo> omfarka: you can clone the drive
[06:21] <jmichaelx> chelz: yes, i will repost what i typed a minute ago or so
[06:21] <CR3AL> whats wrong with my home wireless connection? the signal is strong and i never get disconnected but Every few minutes it cuts out.
[06:21] <imperfect-> lame
[06:21] <imperfect-> I can't even get gdesklets to work
[06:21] <histo> omfarka: check out clonezilla
[06:21] <jmichaelx> chelz: without gnome installed, kubuntu does not do this. however, with gnome installed, chromioum browser and firefox both make these stupid sounds, even if they are turned off in gnome.
[06:21] <Wyzerd> emes: if you want a working system, you'd take my advice.  Ubuntu is NOT a rolling distro, ie: like Arch.  It is *not* bleeding edge.  If you want a proper upgrade, you should do a clean install.
[06:21] <imperfect-> Anyone know of a good cpu temp/usage meter?
[06:21] <chelz> Scunizi: that might pop up in the view of the network. although you might need to install a thing on the server to broadcast the smb share for that kind of autoconfig. otherwise you can go to Placed -> Connect to Server
[06:22] <histo> !backup > omfarka
[06:22] <bobby77> is there a list of the irc chat rooms somewhere?
[06:22] <bsmith093> thanks
[06:22] <chelz> Scunizi: to view the network, Places -> Network
[06:22] <jmichaelx> chelz: AFAIK, there is no way to turn them off in kde settings
[06:22] <Scunizi> chelz: yea.. I can see the network and the server but not the shares..
[06:22] <Wyzerd> CR3AL: that might be your wireless ruoter and not Ubuntu's fault.  Do any other computers on yoru network do this, if you have other computers?
[06:22] <bsmith093> !backup > bsmith093
[06:23] <CR3AL> Yes i do have other computers one that is running windows 7 and it works perfectly, i dont have an issue with other wireless connections
[06:23] <histo> bobby77: I know theres a way you can have chanserv give you a list
[06:23] <histo> bobby77: trying to remember
[06:23] <Scunizi> Wyzerd: CR3AL could it be network-manager?
[06:24] <jmichaelx> i like to have both kde and gnome installed, but things in kde get screwed up if one also installs ubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <CR3AL> Im not sure, how would i check to see if there is a problem with network-manager
[06:24] <bobby77> ive been trying to find one
[06:24] <chelz> jmichaelx: what does the sound sound like?
[06:24] <__taco> greezmunkey, I did it as the URL do, but it still can't work.
[06:24] <chelz> jmichaelx: did the renaming of that file not fix it?
[06:24] <histo> bobby77: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode  there is this but I know there is a way to do it on the server
[06:25] <Wyzerd> bobby77: which IRC client do you use? It should list the servers of many IRC networks, and each has a list of channels.
[06:25] <chelz> jmichaelx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sounds/+bug/411476
[06:25] <bobby77> i see the networks but not the channels
[06:25] <chelz> jmichaelx: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/dialog-question.wav
[06:25] <jmichaelx> chelz: it fixed things in firefox, but the sound being used in chromium is different, and apparently from a different directory
[06:25] <histo> bobby77: you can search on there for chanels there are popular ones listed right on that link
[06:26] <bobby77> thanks for the link
[06:26] <jmichaelx> chelz: i have already renamed dialog-question.ogg
[06:26] <Wyzerd> bobby77:  the channels are probably listed in your IRC application (XCHAT, irssi, weechat etc)  Which do you use?  I can help you, its much better than going to a website like that.
[06:27] <hp00p> hey guys, I have a cpl ubuntu's on this HD and I just deleted one.. my boot loader was on that one so when I restart its probably going to say I have no OS like last time, wondering if I can fix this
[06:27] <hp00p> how can I edit my boot loader
[06:27] <hp00p> or overwrite it
[06:27] <Wyzerd> hp00p: use a live cd and reinstall Grub.  Hold on, Ill get a link for you
[06:28] <jmichaelx> chelz: i believe the sound chromium is making is coming from another directory. i cannot imagine who thought these sounds up, and enabled them by default
[06:28] <hp00p> is that the only way ? I dont live my ubuntu cd with me
[06:28] <hp00p> live = have
[06:29] <nomad77> !grub2 |hp00p
[06:29] <Wyzerd> hp00p: This should work, even though it says its for something different.  It will help you reinstall Grub, and thats what you need.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:29] <CR3AL> Well i have allot of wireless devices on my home network, could it have something to do with a conflict of IP conflict?
[06:29] <hp00p> thx
[06:29]  * Wyzerd wishes people wouldnt be lazy and use the bot for everything.
[06:29] <sYskk> i need to setup a proxy server, what would be an easy to install proxy on ubuntu
[06:29] <sr_rules> hp00p : if you have a usb drive , you can make that live by statup disk creator
[06:29] <tvaughn> that was really weird.... i clicked a mp3 and my hdd started making really loud noises and wouldnt load it then i tried again and it worked. but the os had no issue and its the same disk
[06:29] <histo> CR3AL: do you have a rt2860 card?
[06:30] <histo> !proxy | sYskk
[06:30] <chelz> jmichaelx: well you could hunt through the kde sound directories to see if any of those are the ones that are playing
[06:30] <chelz> sYskk: most people like privoxy and polipo. maybe squid.
[06:31] <histo> !squid | sYskk
[06:31] <Scunizi> jmichaelx: search your system for .wav and .ogg files play them until you find the offending sound and you'll know what directory they are in.
[06:31] <histo> bobby77: /msg alis help list
[06:31] <jmichaelx> chelz: this problem does not start until ubuntu-desktop is installed
[06:32] <ivanx> help me please
[06:33] <jmichaelx> chelz, Scunizi, are these sounds enabled by default in ubuntu?
[06:33] <tvaughn> !specify | ivanx
[06:33] <Scunizi> jmichaelx: when you first switched sessions to ubuntu there's normally a prompt asking if you want the kde backend or the gnome backend running.. if you can you should match kde with kde and gnome with gnome
[06:33] <Flynsarmy> I'm on Chromium 6.0.413.0 (47980) Ubuntu on youtube HTML5 but no videos ever load. Anyone else experiencing this?
[06:33] <Scunizi> jmichaelx: not on my machine... (kubuntu box or ubuntu box)
[06:33] <tvaughn> !ask | ivanx
[06:34] <jmichaelx> scunzi have never seen anything like what you aer describing
[06:34] <jmichaelx> Scunizi: *
[06:34] <Scunizi> jmichaelx: might be different in the latest release.
[06:34] <bastid_raZor> Flynsarmy: i'm still using the beta (5.0something) and html5 works fine
[06:34] <ivanx> airmon-ng
[06:35] <ivanx> eth1		Unknown 		wl
[06:35] <Scunizi> back in a min. on a different box.
[06:35] <Loshki> tvaughn: time to use smartctl to look at the SMART data for the disk and see if it looks healthy....
[06:35] <tvaughn> Loshki: it better be its a brand new disk
[06:36] <CR3AL> I got AR928X Wireless Network Adapter, which has caused problems with wireless in the passed
[06:36] <tvaughn> are you kidding me
[06:36] <tvaughn> a few bad sectors
[06:36] <Loshki> tvaughn: even new disks sometimes develop problems. Best to find out now while it's still under warranty. The data is worth more than the disk usually anyway...
[06:37] <histo> CR3AL: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8347876
[06:37] <tvaughn> Loshki: can fsck try to fix it/
[06:38] <histo> CR3AL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8599246&postcount=5
[06:38] <Wage> Ok, pidgin likes to randomly crash on me so I wrote a script to see if its running and restart it if needed and put it in crontab. problem is it doesn't work, any ideas? script @ http://pastebin.com/VUNiuZtv
[06:38] <Loshki> tvaughn: well disks will reallocate bad sectors automatically. It sounds like yours did that. But failing sectors on a new disk is a bad sign. Hence the SMART check...
[06:39] <imperfect-> anyone know why Flash likes to crash so much?
[06:39] <tvaughn> its 4 sectors waiting to be reallocated
[06:39] <tvaughn> imperfect-: because it sucks
[06:39] <Franch> need help in ldap ubuntu 10.04 ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[06:39] <imperfect-> There's that
[06:39] <bastid_raZor> Wage: shouldn't it be #!/bin/bash ?
[06:39] <tvaughn> Loshki: so i should definatly return it?
[06:39] <Loshki> tvaughn: what brand/model of disk is it?
[06:39] <beatbreaker> help - i'm missing a compiler or something : http://pastebin.com/w2vwwPHs
[06:40] <tvaughn> Loshki: western digital caviler
[06:40] <imperfect-> heh
[06:40] <Wage> bastid_raZor: tried that still not working
[06:40] <Cav3M4n> hello
[06:40] <Loshki> tvaughn: and what size?
[06:40] <Franch> need help in ldap ubuntu 10.04 ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[06:40] <Wage> pidgin starts to run but is giving display errors
[06:40] <tvaughn> 1.5TB
[06:41] <histo> beatbreaker: no looks lik there is an issue with that amdcccle file
[06:41] <Loshki> tvaughn: I ask because the 1.5TBs haven't been as reliable (in my experience). How does the SMART data look? Maybe you should run a long test overnight before you decide?
[06:41] <Franch> need help in ldap ubuntu 10.04 ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[06:41] <Franch> need help in ldap ubuntu 10.04 ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[06:42] <yxh> hello
[06:42] <chelz> !hi | yxh
[06:42] <beatbreaker> what can i do about this> ? http://pastebin.com/w2vwwPHs
[06:42] <Wage> when crontab/the script tries to run pidgin it says "(Pidgin:26754): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed. ** (Pidgin:26754): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset
[06:42] <Wage> Pidgin 2.7.0"
[06:42] <tvaughn> Loshki: everything else is fine just the 4 sectors pending relocation
[06:43] <Valkyrie> O.O
[06:43] <Valkyrie> WOOT!!!
[06:43] <Valkyrie> My ban has been lifted!
[06:43] <Valkyrie> It's been months!
[06:43] <Valkyrie> Oh, rejoice!
[06:43] <Valkyrie> xD
[06:43] <FloodBot3> Valkyrie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <a3ist> haha
[06:44] <a3ist> 3 entries in and already in jeopardy :P
[06:44] <Loshki> a3ist: yeah, pretty funny...
[06:44] <bastid_raZor> Wage: oh, wait.. it is trying to restart it as root.. cron runs with root permissions.
[06:44] <tvaughn> Loshki: I bought it on the 8th of this month
[06:45] <nomad77> beatbreaker: line86 says i386 all else says x86_64
[06:45] <Wage> bastid_raZor: any idea what to do?
[06:46] <Loshki> tvaughn: I'm not sure, but I don't recall any of my disks reallocating sectors so early in their lifetime. If you can return it and get a replacement without a restocking fee, I'd consider it. Consider asking on #hardware maybe for a second opinion...
[06:46] <mondragon> has anyone tried to install 10.04 64-bit desktop in vmware fusion?
[06:46] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know what it means when i try to get an ip address from my dhcp and it says "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[06:47] <bastid_raZor> Wage: i have no script foo.. but you need to have it start as your user.
[06:47] <MrJK> Hello :)
[06:47] <yxh> 看不懂
[06:47] <lyrae_> Ubuntu keeps suddenly freezing out of nowhere. it's getting quite frequent.
[06:47] <tvaughn> Loshki: if i do how can I backup this install of ubuntu thats on it
[06:47] <tvaughn> !cn yxh
[06:47] <tvaughn> !cn | yxh
[06:47] <yxh> right
[06:47] <beatbreaker> nomad77, I'm on arch i686 - i think from here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English it just gets a generic package, then makes it as it needs to
[06:47] <Loshki> linux_is_my_hero: is there some command where you can see who has which lease?
[06:48] <jmichaelx> scunizi: if i set the notification sounds to mute in the sound settings in gnome, that takes care ofthe problem of the sounds in chromium (in kde).... however, when using skype after i do that, i cannot hear any notifications from skype
[06:48] <Loshki> !backup | tvaughn
[06:48] <foreste> hello
[06:48] <Wage> bastid_raZor: Is there a command to run on pidgin to do that?
[06:48] <a3ist> lyrae_, check your logs to see what happens before/when it freezes
[06:48] <foreste> stupid kde 4.4 ;/
[06:48] <lyrae_> a3ist, i am, but theres like 1000 log files haha. still checking
[06:49] <lyrae_> it froze at 1:44 so, checking @ that time
[06:49] <lyrae_> also, xorg log has no time stamp
[06:49] <bastid_raZor> Wage: not that i know of. your script will need some sort of 'su - username' then exec pidgin
[06:49] <a3ist> lyrae_, you can filter them by date, as well as use the "tail" function to check the last X number of lines from a file.  Grep is good for filtering results to a specific date/time window as well.
[06:49] <foreste> not work phonon ,not sound in kde 4.4 ;/
[06:49] <lyrae_> a3ist, using the log viewer
[06:50] <bastid_raZor> Wage: good luck, i'm off to bed.
[06:50] <Wage> thanks
[06:50] <a3ist> lyrae_, learn some of the CLI stuff, it goes so much quicker and offers so much more finesse for finding the right entries
[06:50] <a3ist> lyrae_, especially with grep you can use the -A and -B options to pull in lines around (before and after) ones that match
[06:51] <Cav3M4n> does anyone know how to upgrade from hardy if one cannot get past the partial upgrade
[06:51] <MrJK> What is the french chan ?
[06:51] <Loshki> lyrae_: in my experience, freezes are most often hardware related, with PSU as a primary culprit. Consider running a memtest overnight?
[06:51] <Loshki> !fr | MrJK
[06:51] <lyrae_> one day. log viewer is working fine now
[06:51] <lyrae_> Loshki, good call. How would i know if its the PSU?
[06:51] <MrJK> ubottu: not very well french, but thanks you
[06:51] <a3ist> Loshki, lyrae_, GPU's are another big part that can cause freezes, especially when the weather turns warmer and overheating becomes more likely
[06:52] <lyrae_> a3ist, yes i suspect its the gpu. its OLD and gets HOT
[06:52] <lyrae_> my room is hot in general
[06:52] <acicula> lyrae_, if its the psu it should cut out under load, run a heavy cpu/gpu program for awhile
[06:52] <wzssyqa1> !cn | wzssyqa
[06:53] <a3ist> lyrae_, have you cleaned it lately to make sure the fan isn't being clogged by dust?
[06:53] <ir0n0xid3> Empathy is killing me.....Slow IRC program
[06:53] <lyrae_> a3ist, yep. its just really old
[06:53] <Franch> ldapadd -D cn=admin,cn=config -w password -x -f /usr/ldifs/phpgwaccount.ldif helpme ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[06:53] <ir0n0xid3> You guys prefer xchat?
[06:53] <lyrae_> loud. and always hot. hah
[06:53] <Loshki> lyrae_: if your mobo has the right sensors, you can check voltage stability, or use a multimeter, or change PSUs. And try acicula and a3ist's suggestions...
[06:53] <lyrae_> acicula, whats a heavy cpu app? I could open firefox with 500 tabs..?
[06:53] <Loshki> ir0n0xid3: xchat is definitely very popular...
[06:53] <a3ist> lyrae_, got any arctic silver around and feeling ambitious?  You could reseat the heatsink on your gpu for better heat conduction :)
[06:54] <acicula> lyrae_, what cpu/gpu psu? run a few instances of md5sum /dev/urandom
[06:54] <lyrae_> gpu is 6600gt. psu i forgot, but it's about 1yr old. its not bad.
[06:54] <acicula> Loshki, yeah you can read out the voltages sometimes but that still requires you to load the system heavily to see the psu failing
[06:54] <ir0n0xid3> It seems much faster Loshki. I'm switching.
[06:55] <ir0n0xid3> I cant get a room list in Emapthy
[06:55] <acicula> 6600gt isnt exactly a powerhog
[06:55] <jmichaelx> chelz:  scunizi: i was able to fix the problem. what i had to do was remove 'ubuntu-sounds' (good riddance), log back into a gnome session, and "un-mute" system sounds
[06:55] <acicula> any recently bought psu should happily power that, what cpu and psu wattage?
[06:55] <lyrae_> nope. but its old as heck and gets way hot.  i used to have an 800gtx, but i dont remember if the system froze like this or not
[06:55] <beatbreaker> how do I do an apt-file search ??? it's not in Ubuntu
[06:55] <scunizi> jmichaelx: nice to know.. glad you got it fixed
[06:55] <acicula> well temps can make it crash
[06:55] <lyrae_> acicula, dont remember. i think 750w psu
[06:56] <histo> beatbreaker: you can install it
[06:56] <a3ist> lyrae_, do you notice it freezing during specific functions or is it more or less random?  Is the computer on the same circuit in your home as other power hungry devices?  Air conditioners can cause big fluctuations in power.
[06:56] <acicula> yeah unless its a real pos thats not it then
[06:56] <chelz> jmichaelx: bit of a scorched-earth fix but yeah, as long as you as a user are happy
[06:56] <Loshki> lyrae_: Any idea what brand PSU it uses? The off brands are notorious. Also, you could stick a fan in it near the GPU & see if it helps///
[06:56] <histo> beatbreaker: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[06:56] <beatbreaker> histo, thanks
[06:56] <histo> beatbreaker: then youc an use it
[06:57] <jmichaelx> scunizi: ty....    now when in kde, i have sound for skype notifications, etc, but do not get weird noises clicking window buttons in firefox or chromium browser
[06:57] <a3ist> lyrae_, the biggest priority overall is finding the right logs for before it freezes.  If its software related, or the system logs hardware probs before freezing, it will show up there.  If there's nothing in the logs, it's most likely hardware alone.
[06:58] <lyrae_> a3ist, dont think its software. couldnt find anything in the logs. at 01:44
[06:58] <acicula> does the system freeze or just the gui
[06:58] <beatbreaker> where can i get libstdc++5 from?
[06:58] <jmichaelx> chelz: i cannot see how it is a scorched-earth fix... in kde no one wants or needs those sounds.... and even in gnome, the first thing i usually do is mute them/shut them off
[06:58] <lyrae_> how can i tell? the GUI freezes, but if the gui is froze, how can i tell the system's working
[06:59] <Loshki> a3ist: I can't remember the last time I saw a software-related freeze, but then I'm still running 8.04...
[06:59] <a3ist> lyrae_, in that case trying a ghetto-cooling method like loshki mentioned might help.  try taking the side off the computer, make sure its not stuck in a tight cabinet, and possibly put a box or desk fan near it to help it disperse the ambient heat
[06:59] <tvaughn> Loshki: if the file opens ok doesnt that mean it was a temporary problem? the people in hardware are too busy talkinga bout drugs
[06:59] <acicula> lyrae_, well anything in the logs at 1:45? alternatively you can install sshd or some network servvice like sharing files and see if that still works
[06:59] <acidchild> Hello, My DVD drive says 'medium not found' but... the drive works... any suggestions?
[06:59] <lyrae_> this is the psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
[06:59] <acicula> acidchild, needsadisc?
[06:59] <a3ist> acidchild, "medium" is the disc that goes IN the drive
[07:00] <R_001> Hello, I'm founding a new company, and I want to know what is the basics servers, and IT services which I need, e.g backup and emails
[07:00] <R_001> does anyone recommend anything ?
[07:00] <acidchild> yup the DVD in the drive works perfectly okey.
[07:00] <Valkyrie> R_001, Arch Linux
[07:00] <Valkyrie> o.o
[07:00] <a3ist> R_001, this isn't the channel for that
[07:00] <acidchild> and i installed the OS using the CD drive so i know the drive is fine.
[07:00] <a3ist> hahaha nevermind, Valkyrie is right
[07:00] <lyrae_> alright ill put a fan next to it
[07:00] <R_001> a3ist: which chanel shall I use ?
[07:00] <Valkyrie> xD!
[07:00] <llanero> Valkyrie: what
[07:00] <Valkyrie> Thank you.
[07:00] <acidchild> dmesg or even syslog isn't displaying anything useful. 'eject' fails also... even after a hardreset of the device.
[07:00] <R_001> Valkyrie: what arch linux for ?
[07:00] <Valkyrie> R_001, Go to #archlinux
[07:01] <acidchild> it just flashs over and over.
[07:01] <Valkyrie> R_001, Where the pro's lie.
[07:01] <servidor_> ldapadd -D cn=admin,cn=config -w password -x -f /usr/ldifs/phpgwaccount.ldif helpme ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[07:01] <R_001> Valkyrie: thank you very much :)
[07:01] <a3ist> R_001, I don't really mean to sound condescending or anything, but if you don't even know the basics of what a server does or what IT involves, you're probably not ready to start a new company.
[07:01] <acicula> o_I
[07:01] <openmindj> hi everyone
[07:02] <a3ist> R_001, your best bet is to find a business partner who knows the technical side of things.
[07:02] <Valkyrie> R_001, Not a problem. Ubuntu will make yur servers look like rabbits
[07:02] <Valkyrie> So.
[07:02] <Loshki> tvaughn: I can see I'm obviously in the wrong channel. The issue is that over time, disks tend to develop bad sectors and reallocate them. Eventually, they run out of spare sectors and then the disk is no longer reliable. My concern is that your disk is rather young to be developing it's first bad sectors. It could be a one-off, in which case it's fine, or the beginning of a trend because you got a bad one. I would use smartd to monitor
[07:02] <Loshki> the disk and run nightly selftests if you decide to keep it...
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Can someone remind me where the file for the repos is located?
[07:03] <Valkyrie> LOL
[07:03] <Valkyrie> LOL @ where are repos
[07:03] <openmindj> is it easy to setup a home ubuntu server on a pc?
[07:03] <Valkyrie> xDDDD
[07:03] <llanero> sebsebseb: /etc/aptsomething/
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Valkyrie: not at all since I tend to use another distro  these days etc
[07:03] <bazhang> Valkyrie, that's enough
[07:03] <llanero> sebsebseb: havent used debian in a while
[07:03] <Valkyrie> bazhang, Sowwwy masta
[07:03] <lyrae_> openmindj, if you have an onboard broadcom, no
[07:03] <Valkyrie> ):
[07:03] <scunizi> openmindj: yep.. but it also depends on what you want to do with it.
[07:03] <sebsebseb> llanero: yeah I was t hinking /etc/apt or something
[07:04] <openmindj> oh
[07:04] <sebsebseb> llanero: bingo there it is
[07:04] <Loshki> openmindj: it really depends on how much experience you have with linux systems. It might be quite trying for a beginner...
[07:05] <openmindj> i am kindof a beginner..lol...but at times i seem to catch on pretty fast
[07:05] <sebsebseb> llanero: maybe I should have just browsed the file system, but thanks
[07:05] <servidor_> ldapadd -D cn=admin,cn=config -w password -x -f /usr/ldifs/phpgwaccount.ldif helpme ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[07:06] <Valkyrie> O.O
[07:06] <jmcantrell> my asus laptop's webcam video is flipped vertically. how do i fix this?
[07:06] <Valkyrie> Fireko!
[07:06] <Valkyrie> How've you been, buddy!
[07:06] <a3ist> openmindj, a lot of it depends on what exactly you're looking to do.  A home server could mean everything from managing your network, to hosting files, or working as a media pc with your home theater.  What functionality are you looking for?
[07:06] <lyrae_> ok its not CPU. i just had 'top' open, and held ctrl+t in firefox. i must've opened over 500 tabs. top shows cpu when to 94%, mem 12%
[07:06] <Valkyrie> Sooo
[07:06] <lyrae_> system still goign strong
[07:06] <Fireko> hi
[07:06] <Fireko> hi
[07:06] <Fireko> hi
[07:06] <FloodBot1> Fireko: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <openmindj> could a server create automatic backup of each of my pc's that would be connected to it?
[07:06] <openmindj> thats what i would imagine using it for
[07:07] <a3ist> lyrae_, normally I'd recommend benchmarking software for stress testing but I'm not familiar with the linux options there
[07:07] <acicula> openmindj, yup
[07:07] <Fireko> How do I run ubuntu? the disk won't fit in the drive
[07:07] <llanero> sebsebseb: no prob
[07:07] <openmindj> cool
[07:07] <a3ist> o_O
[07:07] <acicula> Fireko, what drive?
[07:07] <Fireko> The one with the button o.o
[07:07] <scunizi> Fireko: it goes in the cdrom not the floppy drive.. or are you talking about burning it to cd?
[07:08] <a3ist> openmindj, if you're looking to just backup your files, the new Ubuntu One cloud would make it very very easy.  For backing up larger amounts of data it's still fairly easy, but not quite as point-and-click as the cloud approach.
[07:08] <acidchild> Well, it seems ubuntu have made a boo boo with this DVD drive, lots of people experiancing the same issue as i.
[07:08] <Fireko> Like, I put it into the little slot thing. And, it goes whirr a shitload - Then just stops and pops back out
[07:08] <acidchild> if my BIOS can read it, its a damn shame Ubuntu's patched up mess of a OS can't.
[07:08] <bazhang> Fireko, watch the language
[07:09]  * scunizi sniffs the winds for a troll
[07:09] <openmindj> and is there a major benefit towards hosting your own domain on a personal server verse paying for web hosting??
[07:09] <llanero> !ops Fireko
[07:09] <Valkyrie> o.O
[07:09] <bazhang> llanero, what's up
[07:09] <llanero> bazhang: troll
[07:09] <lyrae_> lol
[07:09] <llanero> bazhang: multi nicking with Valkyrie
[07:09] <Fireko> I'm being serious!!
[07:10] <Fireko> The DVD-drive just pops the ubuntu 10.04 disk back out
[07:10] <a3ist> openmindj, it depends how much data you're moving, how often, and where from.  If its just on a local area network, like between the computers in your home with the occasional remote login, there's no reason to bother with web hosting
[07:11] <Fireko> Should I try ordering a disk?
[07:11] <lyrae_> Fireko, if you have a usb stick, try using that
[07:11] <a3ist> openmindj, however if you're talking about consistently streaming media remotely or transferring large files over your internet connection, a managed host would be a better solution.
[07:11] <openmindj> oh, ok...thanks for the advice
[07:11] <lyrae_> Fireko, yes. buy 400 disks and give them to everyone you know
[07:11] <Fireko> Lyrae_ Thanks! You're actually helpfull
[07:11] <scunizi> a3ist: openmindj unless your running a CMR program via web
[07:11] <jk70_> fireko:Ubuntu is a C.D..
[07:12] <lyrae_> Fireko, hey, my usb suggestion was valid
[07:12] <a3ist> CMR?
[07:12] <scunizi> jk70_: you can put it on a usb as well...
[07:12] <openmindj> whats CMR?
[07:12] <openmindj> lol
[07:12] <a3ist> I don't recognize the acronym either
[07:12] <jk70_> scunzi:great idea.
[07:12] <scunizi> a3ist: sorry CRM.. customer relationship manager .. tracks clients, appointments, sales funnel, potential leads etc.
[07:13] <a3ist> oh, CRM, sure
[07:13] <openmindj> k
[07:13] <a3ist> scunizi, he made it sound like it was more personal-use and not commercial
[07:13] <servidor_> ldapadd -D cn=admin,cn=config -w password -x -f /usr/ldifs/phpgwaccount.ldif helpme ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[07:13] <Valkyrie> Alright
[07:13] <scunizi> a3ist: true.. some of us work from home though..
[07:14] <a3ist> setting up public-facing CRM is a whooooole 'nother can of worms involving setting up encryption, certificates, etc
[07:14] <Fireko> Okay! The usb stick woudn't fit either - the drive wouldn't close
[07:14] <shiba_> mya?
[07:14] <scunizi> a3ist: not thinking public facing.. just running on the lan..
[07:14] <shiba_> ok, question
[07:14] <a3ist> scunizi, true, but there's also a difference between using your home connection to do do work related functions from home, and running the business outright
[07:14] <shiba_> i just started the newest version of ubuntu netbook edition
[07:15] <cuckoo> 有人知道linux C中sendmail对应的lib是什么吗？想在程序中嵌入发送邮件的指令
[07:15] <shiba_> how do i tell it to hide the topmenu bar?
[07:15] <cuckoo> sorry
[07:15] <a3ist> scunizi, openmindj, the point is my impression was that this server would be for personal use.  Is this true, openmindj, or is this for a business related function?
[07:15] <Fireko> Am I supposed to put it in the drive? Or the little slo on the side of my laptop
[07:15] <scunizi> a3ist: there are some businesses that are home based.. like real estate, home loans that type of thing.. you don't always have an office to go to.
[07:15] <openmindj> yes
[07:15] <shiba_> in fact, racter how do i tell it to go back to GNU? because it doesn' unlock
[07:15] <moetunes> Valkyrie: Fireko give it up mate
[07:15] <openmindj> personal
[07:15] <roygbiv> on my 9.04 box when i login a window pops up asking for my password and it sets up my wireless and also loads my ssh keys. but with 10.04 now it no longer loads my ssh keys at login. any ideas how to fix this?
[07:15] <bazhang> Fireko, see your PM
[07:16] <Valkyrie> o.o wtf am I doing?
[07:16] <Valkyrie> I'm actually helping people
[07:16] <Valkyrie> Like that R_001 guy
[07:16] <bazhang> Valkyrie, watch the language
[07:16] <Valkyrie> bazhang, Sorry, mate
[07:16] <a3ist> scunizi, listen, I know there's plenty of circumstances where that's true.  But those aren't the ones openmindj is interested in or needs to worry about.
[07:16] <Fireko> I never got a pm thingy
[07:16] <moetunes> Valkyrie: you were told in #archlinux too
[07:16] <bazhang> Fireko, I suggest you and Valkyrie desist immediately
[07:17] <Valkyrie> Can I ask why MY name is being said? =/
[07:17] <openmindj> its still interesting to learn all that i can, but yea for now, i was just interested in setting up a server for personal use
[07:17] <sebsebseb> llanero: ok and once the repos are changed,  remind me of the command to reload them.
[07:17] <Guest95789> I installed 9.10 on an old laptop, seems to work fine except when I open a folder with the file browser, it freezes up when I attempt to scroll through the folder. I messed with the mouse settings to no avail. Any ideas?
[07:17] <scunizi> a3ist: very true.. he's green.. that's why it was an offhand comment and not a recommendation..
[07:18] <bazhang> sebsebseb, sudo apt-get update ?
[07:18] <llanero> sebsebseb: i have got no idea pal, i dont use apt anymore ;) try doing it from aptitude
[07:19] <scunizi> sebsebseb: sudo apt-get update is what you're looking for.. aptitude is the same .. sudo aptitude update
[07:19] <abuayyoub> histo, I was wondering if someone could help me out. I used to have windows on this computer and when I was resizing the c: partition to install ubuntu on it something happened and it got trashed.  The partition is still there but I can't seem to access the data. How can I access it? Do I need to mount it?
[07:19] <a3ist> scunizi, openmindj, regardless I think that you'll find that your needs will be pretty well met by the out-of-the-box solutions in ubuntu, and additional ones should be fairly easy if you make use of the prodigious amount of community documentation available.
[07:19] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yep I know that apt-get and aptitude are nearly the same thing
[07:19] <Valkyrie> There. Ye' have what ya wish. I stop - fer now.
[07:19] <Valkyrie> Peace ^^
[07:19] <llanero> sebsebseb: aptitude has a ui
[07:19] <sebsebseb> bazhang: bingo thats what I was after,  not done anything with repos for a while
[07:20] <roygbiv> abuayyoub you might be better off going to a windoze channel and asking how to recover a trashed windoze partition
[07:20] <sebsebseb> llanero: yep can be run from the terminal, I know
[07:20] <bazhang> sebsebseb, perhaps a read of the manual for such basic stuff
[07:20] <bazhang> !manual | sebsebseb
[07:20] <openmindj> a3ist, does the ubuntu server functions from a command line?
[07:21] <openmindj> or desktop, or both?
[07:21] <a3ist> openmindj, the kind of stuff I mentioned and that you seem to be interested in is pretty much all available through GUI programs in ubuntu
[07:21] <abuayyoub> roygbiv,  Sure... Anyone have any real advice for me? I just need access to a couple of files on there so I can format the  whole partition.
[07:21] <openmindj> cool
[07:21] <sebsebseb> bazhang: heh :D  you know I know quite a lot of stuff,  but sometimes mind can go blank on basics
[07:22] <newbie1mill> Hello everyone, I am sorry but I was wondering if someone could help me out with a question. Is there a way to set garb the boot loader to auto load windows over ubuntu?
[07:22] <tvaughn> garb?
[07:22] <a3ist> !grub2 | newbie1mill
[07:22] <Wage> crontab question: Can anyone tell me why running this script http://pastebin.com/3XhxijyX gives the output listed (and doesn't run pidgin)?
[07:23] <Guest95789> I installed 9.10 on an old laptop, seems to work fine except when I open a folder with the file browser, it freezes up when I attempt to scroll through the folder. I messed with the mouse settings to no avail. Any ideas?
[07:23] <lyrae_> is pci-e still the standard? i dont keep up with hardware
[07:23] <a3ist> lyrae_, for now yes
[07:23] <lyrae_> a3ist, is it changing soon?
[07:24] <a3ist> lyrae_, I think I've heard about a new bus but frankly I haven't been keeping up to date on the hardware side of things either lately
[07:24] <mataks> help please i can't access a folder from my network.. it says that " Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from server" the os im trying to access is windows xp
[07:24] <openmindj> does any one use ubuntu or the studio version to create music on?
[07:25] <a3ist> !samba | mataks
[07:25] <acicula> lyrae_, itsnot, they are upping the revision in the next year or so but thats it
[07:25] <newbie1mill> Thank you also I am about to install ubuntu on my desktop but, I have 2 hard drives , one for OSes and one for data for some reason my OS hd is sdb1 and my data is sda1 i am installing ubuntu on sdb1 so would i put the boot loader on sda1 or sdb1?
[07:27] <openmindj> i have the regular ubuntu  version installed on my acer netbook, which seems to work fine
[07:27] <undecim> My touchpad is behaving erratically (hardware issue). How can I make it disabled on boot? There is a button above it that turns it off. Is that usually a hardware thing or can that be controlled with a command?
[07:28] <newbie1mill> any one?
[07:29] <Jay1> undecim, I have exactly the same problem. Does your machine freeze when you attempt to scroll through a folder?
[07:29] <kyle_l5l> I added another display to my system, and now xine and totem don't display any video.  (well, there is a little single-pixel-tall line of something in the top corner of one display.) ideas?
[07:29] <moetunes> newbie1mill: on sdb should be fine
[07:29] <undecim> newbie1mill: Either one should be fine.
[07:29] <jjnorth> newbie1mill: I don't think GRUB is as picky about being on hd0 as ntloader is... :)
[07:29] <scunizi> newbie1mill: the installer will pic..
[07:29] <undecim> Jay1: No
[07:30] <Jay1> hmmmmm
[07:30] <csmerlin> Does the ubuntu installer work out-of-the-box with multiple GPU setups? I've got two cards and three panels.
[07:30] <newbie1mill> i just want to make sure I have been haveing alot of problems with Windows 7 not wanting to load since I installed ubuntu on my laptop. Its my test machine. My desktop is my baby : )
[07:30] <Jay1> undecim, you probably could shut it off by going into the bios
[07:31] <undecim> Jay1: My laptop is falling apart and the touchpad is the next thing gone out. I often have to wiggle the switch (i've removed the plastic button) to get it to release the mouse button so that I can tap-click on stuff.
[07:31] <undecim> Jay1: Now I'm using an external mouse and keep the touchpad off.
[07:31] <Jay1> undecim, I was about to suggest that
[07:32] <duckwars> i'm sorry, but how do I turn into root user, not just sudo for a line?
[07:32] <undecim> Jay1: There's no bios option for it.
[07:32] <acicula> duckwars, sudo -i
[07:32] <kyle_l5l> duckwars, sudo su -
[07:32] <duckwars> thank you kindly
[07:32] <undecim> Jay1: The only option I can think of is to open the laptop up and disconnect the ribbon that connects the touchpad.
[07:32] <mataks> help . i have now samba but i don't know how to access the shared folder on my other pc.. newbier here.  i get error " Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[07:33] <Jay1> undecim, nothing in the bios for 'pointing devices'?
[07:33] <acicula> duckwars just be aware of the do's and donts, sudo and gksudo(for gui stuff) are there for a reason
[07:33] <undecim> Jay1: Nope.
[07:33] <undecim> Jay1: Fairly plain BIOS, mine...
[07:33] <a3ist> undecim, jay1, I'm not as familiar with the ubuntu loading procedure as I am with arch's, but there's gotta be a way to blacklist the device or its drivers.
[07:33] <duckwars> acicula: thank you, I actually had to do it in os x, it does some weird stuff in comand line (like not let me see the file /var/root/.ssh)
[07:34] <Kruxer> hello
[07:34] <Jay1> what machine, undecim ?
[07:34] <undecim> a3ist: It's a mouse. The driver would be the same driver that is being used for the external mouse I'm replacing it with.
[07:34] <acicula> undecim, a3ist /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf
[07:34] <acicula> !blacklist
[07:34] <undecim> Jay1: An HP touchsmart tx2
[07:34] <a3ist> undecim, mice and touchpads use different drivers.  Generally the touchpads are using synaptic
[07:34] <vbl> hello everyone I'm facing one issue in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. Can anyone help please...
[07:34] <Kruxer> I want to install an application from source and befor i want to install all the repos...I forgot the command, can u tell me that?
[07:35] <undecim> a3ist: Would the mouse buttons be included in synaptic as well?
[07:35] <acicula> oh the synaptic driver, that wont work via blacklisting kernelmods
[07:35] <scunizi> vbl: you have to say what the issue is.. before anyone will answer
[07:35] <undecim> only one way to find out, I guess...
[07:35] <a3ist> undecim, I don't believe so.  I'm about 80% sure you'd be able to still use a mouse just fine after blacklisting the touchpad.
[07:35] <a3ist> undecim, and yeah if it doesn't work you can always undo it
[07:35] <acicula> Kruxer, thats not actually possible, can you be more specific as to what you want to install
[07:36] <undecim> What is the name of the synaptics driver... I don't have any "synaptic" module loaded.
[07:36] <vbl> scunizi: I will be getting connection refused error while playing for a while.. And the pulseaudio daemon also will not be running. I need to execute pulseaudio -D, to start again
[07:36] <Kruxer> acicula, pidgin :)
[07:37] <abuayyoub> Hi can someone help me out. I have an old windows partition that was damaged when resizing to put ubuntu. The partition is still there but I think the OS Is shot. It is listed in Gparted as /dev/sda3 I tried to mount it but it keeps saying "You must specify the filesystem type" anyone have any ideas?\
[07:37] <a3ist> undecim, run this and see if you get anything:  "dpkg -l | grep synaptic"
[07:37] <scunizi> vbl: sudo service pulseaudio restart .. you might want to killall pulseaudio first
[07:38] <undecim> a3ist: synaptic and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[07:38] <acicula> Kruxer, sudo apt-get install pidgin ?
[07:38] <vbl> scunizi: Why this problem is coming.. ?? What is this connection refused mean.. I'm not playing from internet..
[07:38] <a3ist> undecim, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics would be the touchpad driver
[07:38] <scunizi> vbl: I don't know
[07:38] <undecim> a3ist: I don't see it in lsmod.
[07:39] <Kruxer> acicula, ;)
[07:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> just installed ubuntu 10.04 on my sons desktop and changed form the installed default display driver to the propriatery driver from the hardware driver manager. Rebooted and now all I get is a blank screen. Currently able to get into terminal by pressing Alt +F1 but have no idea how to switch back to the previous default drivers from here. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated?
[07:39] <a3ist> undecim, it doesn't show up there.  I just ran lsmod on my laptop which uses synaptic drivers and it isn't there.
[07:40] <undecim> a3ist: Then is there any way to remove the drivers other than removing those packages and restarting GDM?
[07:40] <lgp> Hi
[07:40] <a3ist> undecim, there's gonna be a way with rmmod (modprobe's remove driver function), I'm just checking for the exact syntax for you
[07:41] <acicula> a3ist, its not a kernel driver but an xorg driver
[07:41] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: while in terminal try sudo service gdm stop .. then do a full update.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. then try to start the gui again with sudo service gdm start
[07:41] <a3ist> acicula, undecim, oh I didn't even think of that
[07:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: trying that now, thx for your help
[07:41] <lgp> got two problems.......how to disable the mouspad on my laptop in Ubuntu 10.04
[07:42] <undecim> acicula: I didn't know there was a difference... fglrx shows up in lsmod...
[07:42] <a3ist> acicula, undecim, well when I ran modprobe -l and ran grep on it, I found "kernel/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics_i2c.ko"
[07:42] <vbl> can anyone help me...
[07:42] <Guest18708> yeah
[07:43] <sebsebseb> !ask | vbl
[07:43] <Guest18708> whats up
[07:43] <a3ist> undecim, since it shows up for modprobe you could try "rmmod synaptics_i2c"
[07:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: did exactly that and now im back at the blank screen again... it didnt find any updates
[07:44] <debjit> SpaceCowboy40404, xorg.conf file?
[07:44] <undecim> a3ist:  ERROR: Module synaptics_i2c does not exist in /proc/modules
[07:44] <gandajh> hai
[07:44] <a3ist> undecim, the other alternative is checking out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad and using some of the customization functionality for the touchpad to actively disable certain functions of it
[07:44] <vbl> sebsebseb: when I play songs in ubuntu 8.04 LTS after sometime connection refused error is coming.. Any fix is availble for this.
[07:44] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: if you reboot there is the recovery kernel in grub.. go there and you'll have options to reconfigure video
[07:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> debjit: not sure what your talking about
[07:45] <Guest18708> hi gandajh
[07:45] <scunizi> debjit: xorg.conf doesn't have video control unless you hand write it.
[07:45] <gandajh> hai
[07:45] <gandajh> guest
[07:45] <gandajh> how are you
[07:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: i should be able to just press esc when booting right to get that option? tried that and it doesnt work
[07:45] <Guest18708> good u
[07:45] <gandajh> find...
[07:46] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: use to just show up.. esc was an option... perhaps holding down shift or ctrl or windows key
[07:46] <undecim> a3ist: I think I'll just remove the synaptics package. I won't be able to test if it stops the buttons too, until some stuff I'm doing in X is done, but if it doesn't work, I'm just going to get out the screwdriver and disconnect it completely.
[07:46] <toolbear> hi.  when i try using "gdm-stop" to get to the command line, it just gives me a blank screen instead.  i can still type words onto the screen, but they won't function as commands
[07:47] <toolbear> is there any way to prevent this from happening?
[07:47] <scunizi> toolbear: where did you type gdm-stop?
[07:47] <disappearedng> How do I download the /etc/init.d/mongod startup script in ubuntu?
[07:47] <toolbear> in gnome-terminal
[07:47] <undecim> toolbear: What was wrong with the gnome-terminal command line?
[07:48] <scunizi> toolbear: that's not the right place.. ctrl+alt+F2 will get you to a tty.. kinda like a termial.. then issue the command.. ctrl+alt+F7 is where the gui lives.
[07:48] <debjit> scunizi, is there no way specify the display driver from command line
[07:48] <besogon> good morning. How can I use different keyrings for NetworkManager and evolution?
[07:48] <vbl> please anyone help me to fix the issue posted above.......
[07:48] <toolbear> undecim: there's nothing wrong, but i wanted to run "nvidia-xconfig", and the x-server has to be stopped for that
[07:49] <undecim> toolbear: If you want to use a virtual console, like I assume you were trying to access, press ctrl+alt+fX where X is a number 1-6. Press Ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphical
[07:49] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: holding shift brought it up
[07:49] <undecim> toolbear: Press alt+f1 when you're at the blank screen then.
[07:49] <scunizi> debjit: yes.. you can put it in xorg.conf if you know how
[07:50] <scunizi> undecim: that's ctrl+alt+f1-6
[07:50] <Guest18708> whats the difference between tty and terminal
[07:50] <toolbear> undecim: ok, i guess that works, thanks!
[07:50] <greezmunkey> Guest18708: functionally, nothing.
[07:51] <undecim> scunizi: The ctrl is only neccesary when in X.
[07:51] <Guest18708> thanks noob 8D
[07:51] <scunizi> undecim: ah didn't know that
[07:51] <undecim> scunizi: You can also use alt+left and alt+right.
[07:52] <vbl>  when I play songs in ubuntu 8.04 LTS after sometime connection refused error is coming.. Any fix is availble for this.
[07:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: just did the safe mode graphics config and woot were back in business, thanks for the help.
[07:52] <undecim> vbl: Do you have pulseaudio installed?
[07:52] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: good to hear :)
[07:53] <undecim> vbl: I don't remember if it comes with 8.04 or not...
[07:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> scunizi: are the proprietary drivers for ati trash or did i mess something up when i switched to them?
[07:53] <vbl> undecim: I have installed
[07:53] <Guest18708> u messed up
[07:53] <vbl> undecim: It is 0.9.10
[07:54] <undecim> vbl: maybe a problem with pulseaudio then. Do you get any more than "Connection Refused" or is there more text?
[07:54] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: on 10.04 I don't know which cards they support.. on 9.10 they didn't support most anything except the newer cards
[07:54] <dmcquay> i am having trouble with cron
[07:54] <Guest18708> SpaceCowboy40404, proprietary drivers arent trash, if somethings trash its gotta be open source
[07:54] <dmcquay> I set up a basic cron job and it doesn't appear to be running
[07:54] <dmcquay> i've been googling for a while
[07:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> built this system for him last year about this same time... so its fairly new
[07:55] <dmcquay> i've got to be doing something simple wrong
[07:55] <vbl> undecim, I'm not getting any logs in syslogs.. when I open pavchooser. It shows me connection refused
[07:55] <dmcquay> anyone care to help me out?
[07:55] <SpaceCowboy40404> oh well he never plays any games past web browser based so this will eork fine
[07:55] <undecim> dmcquay: What is the line that you put in cron?
[07:55] <Guest18708> proprietary drivers arent trash, if somethings trash its gotta be open source
[07:55] <dmcquay> undecim, getting that for you...
[07:55] <vbl> undecim: AFter this error player memory will increase to 1GB
[07:55] <scunizi> SpaceCowboy40404: it's an ATI thing not an ubuntu thing.. it has to do with the drivers and Xorg compatibility.. ati's site might list what cards are supported on linux
[07:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> cool, thanks for the info and help :)
[07:56] <Guest18708> np
[07:56] <undecim> vbl: try running "killall pulseaudio" and if that doesn't work "killall -9 pulseaudio"
[07:56] <dmcquay> undecim, as root
[07:56] <thinkpadT42> my thinkpad t42 has a in-built atheros 5413a wireless interface set regdomian to 0x64,and work on channel 1 to 11,how can I can enable the channel 13,i'm in japan now
[07:57] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	what does 0x64 mean?
[07:57] <dmcquay> i run crontab -i
[07:57] <dmcquay> and add this line
[07:57] <dmcquay> * * * * * date >> /tmp/cronruns
[07:57] <undecim> vbl: That will kill the pulseaudio process and it should automatically restart. If it doesn't restart, your music app should fall back on ALSA
[07:57] <vbl> undecim: After this error pulseaudio demaon itself will not be running
[07:58] <Guest18708> any good sources to learn ubuntu
[07:58] <vbl> undecim: when I kill pulseaudio in my pc. It is not autostarting...
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> my thinkpad t42 has a in-built atheros 5413a wireless interface set regdomian to 0x64,and work on channel 1 to 11,how can I can enable the channel 13,i'm in japan now
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	what does 0x64 mean?
[07:58] <bazhang> !manual > Guest18708
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> linux can do whatever we want?
[07:58] <domino14> k guys i need your help. just updated to 10.04 from 9.10, and it won't boot up correctly (only boots into the command prompt, i don't know what happened to the windows). lots of error messages
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> I do need your heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> my thinkpad t42 has a in-built atheros 5413a wireless interface set regdomian to 0x64,and work on channel 1 to 11,how can I can enable the channel 13,i'm in japan now
[07:58] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	what does 0x64 mean?
[07:59] <FloodBot1> thinkpadT42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <undecim> vbl: If it doesn't restart, then your applications should fall back on ALSA and play
[07:59] <domino14> isnt this behavior sort of unacceptable?
[07:59] <thinkpadT42> oh,flood bot.you go awy
[07:59] <thinkpadT42> lol
[07:59] <Guest18708> thinkpadT42, not everything
[07:59] <a3ist> ...
[07:59] <bazhang> thinkpadT42, then dont flood
[07:59] <scunizi> domino14: while in the command prompt do a ... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. and see if it pulls stuff in that was missed on the upgrade
[08:00] <vbl> undecim: How to acheive that. I bit new to linux.. Can you help me..
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> thinkpadT42, 1) http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/CountryCode 2) use ath5k, madwifi is becoming deprecated
[08:00] <vbl> *I'm bt new to linux
[08:00] <thinkpadT42> ath5k now,yes,
[08:01] <dmcquay> undecim, did you see my response?
[08:01] <undecim> dmcquay: Yes, and I'm looking through crontab man page.
[08:01] <dmcquay> undecim, great
[08:01] <vbl> undecim: When I debug pulseaudio with -vvvv . I'm getting this error http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=ZgE3dpxV in system log before connection refused. Can you check this please
[08:01] <undecim> dmcquay: You mean crontab -e, I assume
[08:02] <domino14> scunizi: well what i did was, boot in safe mode, and then it told me that the DKMS script was missing, and if i wanted to either get the new one or "keep my old one" (i don't know what it would keep, isn't it missing??)
[08:02] <dmcquay> undecim, yes
[08:02] <domino14> so i selected get the new one. now it's setting up all sorts of stuff for hte last 10 minutes... "setting up evince.. setting up python-vte.. etc etc etc"
[08:02] <undecim> vbl: When pulseaudio is not running, your music should play. You may need to restart your player if pulse was running when it started.
[08:03] <domino14> i dont know what is going on
[08:03] <scunizi> domino14: dkms typically is used for 3rd party stuff that does kernel mods.. like virtualbox or nvidia drivers from their site.. we'll see .. let it run .. hopefully it'll fix stuff.
[08:03] <moetunes> domino14: it is finishing the upgrade for some reason
[08:03] <vbl> undecim: I can make the music come back by closing music player and typing pulseaudio -D.. Anyother good solution is there for this..
[08:04] <Guest18708> pulseaudio :-D
[08:04] <undecim> vbl: Only thing I can suggest is removing pulse. That's what I did on my computer and sound system has been great since.
[08:04] <greezmunkey> scunizi: hopefully...heh
[08:04] <undecim> vbl: But that also breaks a lot of sound-related features
[08:05] <undecim> dmcquay: I can't find anything wrong with the crontab
[08:05] <domino14> moetunes: and scunizi thanks
[08:05] <vbl> vbl: OK I can remove pulse. But my problem is making my 4 speaker work in ALSA. How to do that..???
[08:06] <scunizi> domino14: working?
[08:06] <vbl> undecim: OK I can remove pulse. But my problem is making my 4 speaker work in ALSA. How to do that..???
[08:06] <undecim> vbl: Sorry, I don't know much about setting up multiple speakers.
[08:06] <domino14> actually i got another quick question. GRUB (i think it's grub, it's whatever the screen that asks me what to boot) has Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-22-generic, recovery mode, but then it also has 2.6.31-20, 2.6.31-19.. and a lot more
[08:06] <domino14> how do i get rid of all of these?
[08:07] <vbl> undecim: Nice speaking to you.. I will try to ask anyone else here....
[08:07] <dmcquay> undecim, does it work on your system?
[08:07] <domino14> it is booting right now, let's see if it works.
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> my thinkpad t42 has a in-built atheros 5413a wireless interface set regdomian to 0x64,and work on channel 1 to 11,how can I can enable the channel 13,i'm in japan now
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	what does 0x64 mean?
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 13:47	Zero_Chaos	iw reg get
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	I have try that...
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	tried
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 	Zero_Chaos	what does it say?
[08:07] <thinkpadT42> 	thinkpadT42	but did not work...
[08:07] <FloodBot1> thinkpadT42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <scunizi> domino14: typically sudo apt-get autoclean .. if that doesn't work use synaptic and uninstall them from there.. if that doesn't work sudo update-grub
[08:08] <domino14> sweet - it works -- woo!
[08:08] <scunizi> domino14: yee ha!
[08:08] <hipitihop> can someone help me with a networking problem. When I attach my device ( a linux based phone/computer) via usb as eth1 using the following script, my laptop uses internet connect. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t96tp7Xw
[08:09] <undecim> dmcquay: I'm trying on my system and it's not working... I can't see any reason why not.
[08:09] <domino14> well -- except a couple of my programs won't start anymore :(
[08:09] <dmcquay> undecim, k, i'll keep looking
[08:09] <dmcquay> thx for help
[08:09] <maelaian> so the 10.04 installer blows. after setting nomem something, and then later setting acpi=off and noapic, i still cant get an install. 9.10 installer works great no hitches so regressions abound apparently. Will I have trouble upgrade a 9.10 to a 10.04?
[08:10] <undecim> dmcquay: Actually, mine is working...
[08:10] <Guest18708> how do you get rid of the kernel entries in grub
[08:10] <undecim> dmcquay: was looking at the wrong file.
[08:11] <domino14> yes -- how DO you get rid of the kernel entries in grub
[08:11] <scunizi> domino14: sudo apt-get autoclean should do it
[08:11] <dmcquay> undecim, okay
[08:11] <undecim> dmcquay: Is cron running? (run "service cron status" to check)
[08:11] <domino14> lucid seems to take longer to boot.. :(
[08:12] <domino14> scunizi: sudo apt-get autoclean still left the kernel entries there
[08:12] <scunizi> domino14: sudo update-grub
[08:13] <domino14> nope, still there
[08:13] <AhmedBH> Hello, I have installed compiz and i cant get those effects which was like a dozen in karmic , how do i install those on lucid ?
[08:13] <tsimpson> domino14: remove the unused linux-image packages
[08:13] <domino14> sudo update-grub just found all my kernels and theyre still i nthe list when i reboot
[08:13] <domino14> tsimpson: how do i do that?
[08:13] <undecim> domino14: scunizi: I could be wrong, but I think that the packages are set up to have at least one old kernel left as an option by default. So you will still have 4 options (a normal and recovery mode for the new and old kernels)
[08:14] <tsimpson> domino14: from the package manager
[08:14] <WindPower> domino14: If autoclean doesn't remove the kernel packages, remove them manually (but do NOT remove the latest kernel/the one you're using, obviouly)
[08:14] <scunizi> domino14: use synaptic package manager to uninstall them
[08:14] <AhmedBH> Hello, I have installed compiz and i cant get those effects which was like a dozen in karmic , how do i install those on lucid ? Please let me know :P
[08:14] <greezmunkey> Too bad thinkpad(whatever) is gone, I have his answer :)
[08:14] <vbl> domino14: There is tool called Ubuntu-tweak, by using that u can clear the entry in menu.lst
[08:15] <undecim> AhmedBH: What kind of effects?
[08:15] <tsimpson> vbl: ubuntu-tweak is not something we support
[08:15] <AhmedBH> those burning windows etc i dont have those
[08:15] <AhmedBH> in lucid
[08:15] <moetunes> !ccsm
[08:15] <pallgone> domino14: all it really takes ist removing the appropriate 'linux-image-...' packages and then run 'sudo update-grub'
[08:15] <sYskk> whats the easiest way to setup a proxy server on ubuntu ?
[08:15] <domino14> quackle doesn't work anymore
[08:15] <dmcquay> undecim, got it
[08:15] <tsimpson> pallgone: no need to run update-grub after, removing the packages doe that
[08:15] <vbl> tsimpson: But using that you can clean that entries
[08:15] <dmcquay> stupid typo
[08:15] <undecim> AhmedBH: Do you have the Animations Add-On plugin activated?
[08:16] <dmcquay> figured it had to be something like that
[08:16] <tsimpson> vbl: it's not supported and can possibly damage your install
[08:16] <dmcquay> i'm calling it a night
[08:16] <undecim> dmcquay: lol. It's always the little things.
[08:16] <dmcquay> thanks much~
[08:16] <dmcquay> :)
[08:16] <undecim> np
[08:16] <soreau> AhmedBH: install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[08:16] <AhmedBH> undecim: well everything is working but i have only FEW effects :) i dont know how do i get rest
[08:16] <AhmedBH> wait
[08:17] <vbl> tsimpson: OK , But I use this from 8.04LTS. didnot faced any problem. So just suggested..
[08:17] <shiba__> #socalfurry
[08:17] <tsimpson> sYskk: see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/squid.html
[08:17] <shiba__> god.
[08:17] <pallgone> vbl: there is no menu.lst anymore
[08:17] <mcl0vin_> bahig!
[08:17] <shiba__> how do i choose a server?
[08:17] <popoulouS> hi
[08:17] <vbl> pallgone: Ya Ubuntu 10.04 LTS removed that
[08:17] <AhmedBH> soreau: yes lemme install it
[08:17] <gaetano> list!
[08:17] <vbl> pallgone: Use need to do GRUB update
[08:18] <pallgone> vbl: no, already karmic didn't include it
[08:18] <soreau> AhmedBH: After installing that package, restart compiz and ccsm (or relogin)
[08:18] <vbl> pallgone: OK...
[08:18] <AhmedBH> soreau: okay wait
[08:19] <undecim> AhmedBH: In order to get the "Burn" effect, you need to have "Animations Add-On" enabled.
[08:19] <vbl> pallgone: In 8.04LTS and all it was easy to clean that entry by editing.. I don't know why they removed it....
[08:19] <AhmedBH> soreau: But all those lamp effects workin...doesnt that mean that its  ENABLED ?correctly
[08:20] <pallgone> vbl: it's a part of the old grub, grub2 has a new system
[08:20] <gaetano> come si trovano le liste
[08:20] <AhmedBH> soreau: actually i just discovered i didnt had compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[08:20] <vbl> pallgone: OK
[08:21] <sabat> does 8.4mb/sec sound right for a pc-pc transfer? I'm copying using samba, from one linux pc to another.
[08:21] <Beyecixramd> is there a way to detect (with an .exe) file if the user is running Wine or native Windows?
[08:22] <vbl> Hi all, anyone now to make 4 speaker surrounding  make work in ALSA without using pulse..
[08:22] <AhmedBH> soreau: Its not getting installed saying something else is using the process its not a program but i guess i opened synaptic while ago causing trouble lemme restar BRB
[08:22] <sabat> 100mbit network cards.
[08:22] <Beyecixramd> vbl: why not PA?
[08:22] <Guest18708> Beyecixramd, its bad
[08:22] <undecim> sabat: 100mbit should be about 12 MB/s max.
[08:22] <greezmunkey> sabat: sounds slow to me, what kind of switch are you using?
[08:23] <sabat> undecim: so gettin 8.4 isn't something I should complain about?
[08:23] <gaetano> !list
[08:23] <vbl> Beyecixramd: it is giving me lots of issues. So I thought of using ALSA. If anyone can help me to slove issue. I can go with pulse
[08:23] <undecim> sabat: Obviously it will be a little less because there will be network latency and some lost in protocol
[08:23] <sabat> I mean, I really am not complaining, just wondering if it's slow for it.
[08:23] <undecim> sabat: You could probably do better than 8.4 somehow, but that's a pretty good rate for a network transfer.
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> vbl: wouldn't it be better to solve those issues? just asking
[08:24] <greezmunkey> sabat: ahh, mb/s or MB/s makes an 8:1 differance - heh
[08:24] <dustNbone> sabat: If you're transferring a bunch of small files, the throughput could easily drop that low just from filesystem overhead.
[08:24] <sabat> I used to have a gigabit switch, but it fried[the Power supply went bad] so I am not complaining, just curious if that was right, but it sound decent
[08:24] <vbl> Beyecixramd: Ya it is fine.. I will tell you the issue..
[08:25] <sabat> ok, 11 hours to go :) transferring 460gb worth of crap, mostly 600-800mb movie files
[08:25] <dustNbone> sabat: it's in the ballpark.  Anything over 10MB a second is gravy :)  Go Gigabit if you need to do large transfers
[08:25] <undecim> sabat: It's around the proper speed for a network transfer. If you wanted, you could get upwards of 10 MB/s if you connect the computers directly.
[08:25] <sabat> ok. so I guess I am ok then
[08:26] <dustNbone> Any crappy switch should be able to do 100mbps.  Then again, I've never bought a crappy switch.
[08:26] <moetunes> sabat: write speed to the hd plays a part as well
[08:26] <sabat> I juat wanted to get an opinion on whether or not that was right. I haven't used my NIC's at 100mbps for a long time.
[08:26] <sabat> they are gigabit, but the switch isn't right now
[08:26] <vbl> Beyecixramd>I'm getting connection refused in pulseaudio while playing music for a while. After this pulseaudio daemon will not be running. When i enable verbose. I get this message in system log before connection refused. You can check this link to find the message http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=ZgE3dpxV
[08:26] <sabat> so my problem is the switch.
[08:26] <Ganymede> hey, i'm on ubuntu lucid desktop and i would like to make my keyboard repeat rate slower...tried moving the slider in system -> prefrences -> keyboard but it appears to have no effect...
[08:26] <domino14> s0ke
[08:27] <dustNbone> sabat: If it's a huge transfer you need to get done, it may be worth just running a crossover cable and assigning static IPs
[08:27] <undecim> sabat: Two gigabit NICs? I would definitely connect those computers directly if it were on option.
[08:27] <Beyecixramd> vbl: so ALSA works fine?
[08:27] <sabat> ya, i've got MDF setup, but the pc's are acrossed my house.
[08:27] <dustNbone> Ganymede, see if there is a setting in your BIOS, it may override the OS setting.
[08:28] <AhmedBH> Back
[08:28] <undecim> sabat: With a crossover connection, the transfer would only be slowed down by your hard drives' read and write speeds.
[08:28] <AhmedBH> i still can'
[08:28] <Ganymede> dustNbone, oh true, that's a good point (unfortunately, i'm not in a position to reboot this desktop right now)
[08:28] <sabat> I could put a crossover inbetween them, but frankly, I'm gonna goto bed soon, then goto work when I get up... so it will  be done by the time I get home tomorrow, so screw it.
[08:28] <zultell> hello
[08:28] <Guest94819> =-O
 I didn't tried, Thats what I tried to use ALSA.. As soon as when I use pulse I get this type of problem
[08:28] <zultell> i need help
[08:28] <AhmedBH> i still can't get extra effects for compiz what should i instal @_@
[08:28] <zultell> i got this error y
[08:28] <Kiasanth> Hi all, for some reason some apps in ubuntu 10.04 have stopped working... "about Ubuntu", Software Centre, VirtualBox.... the menu items suddenly do nothing, I've tried re-installing these apps but it didn't work... any help?
[08:28] <Beyecixramd> vbl: do you know that PA is ALSA improved, right?
[08:28] <dustNbone> sabat, OK fine then.  Screw you too :P
[08:28] <dustNbone> :)
[08:28] <Guest94819> >:o
[08:28] <zultell> [08:28] <zultell>  ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
[08:28] <zultell> [08:28] <zultell> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[08:28] <zultell> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.32-22-generic; make sure that the version is being
[08:28] <zultell> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[08:28] <FloodBot1> zultell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <Beyecixramd> vbl: so you'll likely have more issues with ALSA than with PA
[08:28] <masterslakk> kiasanth, does the windowmanger crash?
[08:29] <Guest94819> :)
[08:29] <sabat> dustNbone
[08:29] <sabat> dustNbone: lol, thanks :)
[08:29] <Guest94819> :-/
[08:29] <Guest94819> :-(
[08:29] <zultell> can anyone help me
[08:29] <Kiasanth> masterslakk I get no messages, and everything else seems uneffected
[08:29] <Guest18708> dont use the software center its for noobs
[08:29] <Guest94819> :'(
[08:29] <undecim> AhmedBH: You need to make sure you have compiz-fusion-plugins-extra package installed and have the "Animations Add-On" plugin in addition to the normal "Animations" plugin enabled in compiz
[08:29] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: that's a no hehe
[08:30] <masterslakk> kiasanth, what exactly do you mean? I think i misunderstood your question.
[08:30] <Guest94819> ไม่เข้าใจอ้า
[08:30] <poland> I think I need to set eth1 as default (192.168.1.10) but don't know how. When eth0 is configured (10.0.0.10) the Firefox is unable to resolve www addresses. Please help...
[08:30] <AhmedBH> undecim: wait
[08:30] <sabat> once I get the new switch[already ordered. just not here yet] then it WOULD go faster, but I was just wanting to know if the speed was too slow for 100mbit. aparrently it's norm, or near norm at least, so I'm fine.
[08:30] <masterslakk> anyone know how to make a virtual network with ubuntu boxes in virtualbox?
[08:30] <Guest94819> ไม่เข้าใจอ้า:'(
[08:30] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: when I select "About Ubuntu" or "Software Centre" or VirtualBox" from the ubuntu menu's nothing happens
[08:30] <AhmedBH> how do i install Animations Add-On ????? huh
 No i used to get issue with pulseaudio always...
[08:31] <masterslakk> kiasanth, did you upgrade?
[08:31] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: nope, fresh install on the day it came out
[08:31] <undecim> AhmedBH: Animations Add-On is included in compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, I believe.
[08:31] <domino14> i'm purging a package i installed with "gdebi" and it wants me to remove 71 other packages that look useful
[08:31] <masterslakk> kiasanth, a lot of the programs from 9.10 and below don't work or changed dramatically...
[08:31] <sabat> I had an old machine I was runnig my linux server on, and local file storage. but I got a new one with a 2TB file server in it, and I just need to transfer the old crap to the new pc
[08:31] <domino14> they all have a {u} after them
[08:31] <Beyecixramd> vbl: hmmm... why don't you search on the internet for the error message PA gives you?
[08:31] <sabat> not like I am in demand of high speed for this.
[08:31] <AhmedBH> i have that... installed minute ago still nothing extra seem to be working
[08:31] <Beyecixramd> vbl: i'm sure it's more or less common
[08:31] <domino14> like libqt4-gui{u}  --- surely that is useful, i develop with Qt
[08:32] <AhmedBH> should i have compiz and extra plugins thats all ?
[08:32] <masterslakk> kiasanth, hmmm. i had a problem with vmware workstation... it wouldn't open at all from the menu... i'm not sure how to fix the
[08:32] <masterslakk> problem... i would suggest that you back everything up that has importance... then reinstall OS...
[08:32] <undecim> AhmedBH: That should be all you need. Do you not see the Animations Add-On in CCSM?
[08:32] <maelaian> Is the 10.04 known to be buggy where the previous installer would work fine?
 Ok can you help me to solve this issue in pulseaudio
[08:32] <sabat> And I am assuming using samba-samba is pretty stupid seeing that I am using linux, ftp/ssh would be faster, I am guessing, but I am fine with it.
[08:33] <masterslakk> kiasanth, or wait intill someone more knowledgeable can help you... i just started working with ubuntu about six months ago
[08:33] <AhmedBH> No i dont see anyhing CCSM
[08:33] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: yeah, that was what I was gonna try if this channel couldn't suggest an alternative
[08:33] <AhmedBH> @_@
[08:33] <undecim> AhmedBH: it should be right next to animations, and has a paper airplane logo
[08:33] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: all good, we all have to start at the beginning ;)
[08:33] <AhmedBH> wait
[08:33] <masterslakk> and 3 months ago start playing with it profoundly
[08:33] <dustNbone> masterslakk, open a terminal, and run the command "vmware" (minus quotes) and tell me what (if anything) is returned to the terminal
[08:33] <domino14> there's something called libass3?
[08:33] <masterslakk> :) true... very true
[08:33] <Beyecixramd> vbl: no because i don't really know why does that happen
[08:34] <Beyecixramd> vbl: please use Google, i'm sure you'll find your answer
[08:34] <alket> Can you make a web site hosted at Ubuntu ONE ?
[08:34] <masterslakk> dustnbone, i don't use vmware any more...
[08:34] <AhmedBH> undecim: Thanks man i just enable it now i have all those i had in karmic
[08:34] <AhmedBH> :P thanks a million
[08:34] <Guest18708> uninstall pulseaudio
[08:34] <masterslakk> dustnbone, i use virtualbox... for somereason, i don't think 9.0 vmware is supported in lucid...
[08:34] <undecim> AhmedBH: no problem
[08:34] <Gamarok___> hey guys has anyone got nvidia graphic cards with multiple gpu's to work
[08:34] <dustNbone> masterslakk, sorry I misread.
[08:34] <AhmedBH> undecim: Mwa :P
 No Beyecixramd, I'm not getting a solution for this... I tried in ubuntuforums also.. Nobody give me an answer
[08:35] <undecim>  sabat: SSH isn't good for high-spped transfers. The encryption slows it down to about 3 MB/s or so.
[08:35] <masterslakk> dustnbone, it's cool... do y ou know a lot about virtualboxes?
[08:35] <sabat> Frankly, I am just happy to have my 2TB drive setup and working now
[08:35] <undecim> sabat: FTP would probably have the least overhead of any protocol.
[08:35] <dustNbone> masterslakk, I prefer VBox as well.   I think it's come lightyears recently.  \
[08:35] <Beyecixramd> vbl: ill try to help you then but im totally clueless, what brand and model is your card?
[08:35] <vbl> ok
[08:36] <sabat> undecim: ya, I thought so also, but I didn't want to setup a ftp for just this one Xfer, once it's done the old computer is going to be wiped out.
[08:36] <caozhao> 这么多人
[08:36] <masterslakk> dustnbone, I would really like to setup a virtual network of ubuntu machines... would you be any help... or point to a guide that would
[08:36] <masterslakk> be of monumental help?
[08:36] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: I've been using ubuntu since 6.04 and VBox for about 3 years.... this has got me stumped unfortunately
[08:36] <masterslakk> dustnbone, it seems i can't find any of my vboxes inside of a vbox or host, as a matter of fact.
[08:36] <Gamarok___> well?
 i use  Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:37] <masterslakk> kiasanth, do you know how to setup a network of virtual ubuntu boxes? I just started used vbox few weeks ago... i'm lost completely.
[08:37] <domino14> i have a program taht seg faults on 10.04 on startup, and didnt do so under 09.10  -- what could have changed?
[08:37] <dustNbone> masterslakk, I use VMs quite alot now, very useful tool but I don't think I'm an expert.  Do you want to have this "network" of VMs running all on the same host?  That should be a fairly simple matter of assigning them unique IP addresses on a private Class C
[08:37] <caozhao> 都 用英语 马
[08:37] <Beyecixramd> vbl: have you tried to contact Creative about Linux and drivers?
[08:37] <sabat> and another catch is, the pc that I am copying from, also doubles as my network router, so if I setup the crossover cable, I lose internet for my house.
[08:37] <Beyecixramd> vbl: and your specific issue
[08:38] <masterslakk> dustNbone, yes, all on the same host.
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> vbl: as far as i know, Creative offers high quality, open source drivers for Linux, except the X-fi series
[08:38] <masterslakk> dustNbone, i want to be able to ssh with them & such...
[08:38] <Gamarok___> has anyone got nvidia graphic cards with multiple gpu's to work
Ok
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> Gamarok___: i didn't, but based on my experience, it should work with the official drivers
 Can you tell me the link in which I can download that drivers for Linux
[08:39] <masterslakk> dustNbone, if you know how to do this precisely, would you mind if I opened up a private box with you?
[08:39] <dustNbone> masterslakk, Just use manual network configuration during install and give them each a unique private IP e.g. 192.168.10.1 then 192.168.10.2 and so on.
[08:39] <Beyecixramd> vbl: Google "creative audio drivers linux"
[08:40] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: yeah, it shouldn't be hard, like dust said, put them all on the same subnet as your host..
[08:40] <dustNbone> masterslakk, very simple really.  Just manually assigned unique IPs.
[08:40] <masterslakk> dustNbone, do I need to set their network adapters to anything special?
[08:40] <Gamarok___> Beyecixramd -  alrite well it's just that when ever i install the driver and restart i cant see anything anymore i mean it goes blank
[08:41] <Beyecixramd> Gamarok___: excuse me, what was your issue?
do you think this is a driver issue. Because I can able to play sound, after sometime only this issue will happened..
[08:41] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: it depends if you want the virtual network to be isolated from your real network
[08:41] <Beyecixramd> vbl: yeah, maybe some particular wrote drivers for it, which didn't work perfectly
[08:41] <dustNbone> masterslakk, just the network configuration needs to be set manually.  Unique IPs on the same private subnet like I said above and subnet mask set to 255.255.255.0
[08:42] <airtonix> dustNbone, what makes you think this ?
[08:42] <Gamarok___> my issue is that whenever i install a restricted driver it prompts me to restart and when i do my display turns off
[08:42] <masterslakk> dustNbone, unfortunately, I lack to knowledge to make sense of what you're saying... i'm quite a nooby, a complete one.
[08:42] <dustNbone> airtonix, I'm not sure what you're asking.  I don't think this, I know this.  It's basic IP networking.
 My module is CA0106 and from alsa site
[08:43] <airtonix> masterslakk, i dont think you've adequately described what you want to do with your many virtualbox guests
[08:43] <sabat> for some reason, I just thought of my friend named "france" on irc... his quit message was "I surrender".... always got laughs over that...
[08:43] <mehranhu> i need some help with Android TOP BAR modification
[08:43] <airtonix> dustNbone, indeed but you dont need to manually set anything to get a virtualbox host to have an ip
[08:43] <airtonix> guest*
[08:43] <vilhelm> are the drivers for nvidia cards that are in the hardware drivers the same as the ones one can download from nvidia.com?
[08:43] <masterslakk> airtonix, I just want to set up a network of about 10 vboxes of xubuntu that can all talk to each other....
[08:44] <airtonix> masterslakk, then just turn them on
[08:44] <dustNbone> airtonix, you do if there's no DHCP server involved.  Without DHPC, you need to manually configure the network.
[08:44] <masterslakk> airtonix, well i have 2 on...
[08:44] <airtonix> masterslakk, default network setup for a virtualbox guest is NAT i believe.
[08:44] <masterslakk> airtonix, that is true. should it be there? or should I change it to something else?
[08:44] <airtonix> dustNbone, virtualbox provides its own dhcp server
 Is it possible to upgrade my ALSA and pulseaudio to new version in 8.04LTS??
[08:45] <dustNbone> airtonix, no it doesn't.
[08:45] <phlak_user> !hi
[08:45] <Beyecixramd> vbl: .... you're using 8.04?
[08:45] <airtonix> dustNbone, yes it does.
[08:45] <Beyecixramd> vbl: that's end of life, you know, right?
[08:45] <mcl0vin> what is linux input layer? and whats '/dev/input/event#' stand for please ?
[08:46] <d7777777> I think that I've found a terrible bug in the default apache2 conf
 ya I now... But 10.04 has lots of issue for me.. 1.0.21 behave very strangly in my system. So rollback.
[08:46] <masterslakk> airtonix, my ip address in vboxes is same as ip address of my host box...
[08:46] <dustNbone> airtonix, and to what network does it provide DHCP information.  It wouldn't be useful for VBox to provide DHCP because it wouldn't know which network to provide service for.
[08:46] <Kiasanth> I must agree with dustNbone, host or guest (depending on the configuration) supplies the DHCP
[08:46] <airtonix> dustNbone, to its guests?
[08:46] <undecim> mcl0vin: Linux input layer is the software that handles input in Linux. All the /dev/input/event# things are input devices that can be handled by that layer.
[08:46] <Beyecixramd> vbl: the thing is that 8.04 is not supported anymoree..... so having issues is 100% normal
[08:47] <Beyecixramd> vbl: what are the issues in Lucid? (10.04)
[08:47] <dustNbone> airtonix, I think you misunderstand the function of VBox.  It's not within it's mandate to provide a service like DHCP.
[08:47] <comsa> 8.10 not supported 8.04 is??
[08:47] <airtonix> dustNbone, Kiasanth your host system does not provide the dhcp service, nor is it any other system outside your host... it is the network subsystem of virtualbox that does this when you use NAT option in the guest setup
[08:48] <d7777777> There is a symlink: /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf that has the following line: Alias /javascript /usr/share/javascript/
[08:48] <mcl0vin> undecim: i have "by-id  by-path  event0  event1  event2  event3  event4  mice  mouse0  mouse1" how do i know which one is my remote control :)
[08:48] <undecim> wait, I thought LTS was 3-years on the desktop... 8.04 should still have another year
[08:48] <d7777777> It took me an hour to find it!
[08:48] <poland> Hi. Can you please point in the right direction. I am working on Ubuntu 10.04. In my PC there are two NICs: eth1 (192.168.1.10) connected via DSL router to the Internet. When eth0 is configured (10.0.0.10) the Firefox is unable to resolve www addresses.
[08:48] <sabat> lmao, ok... this is funny... I just checked my mail, my gigabit switch is here :)
[08:48] <airtonix> dustNbone, think you might want to research what the "Attached To" option in a guests network adapter config does.
[08:48] <masterslakk> sabat, nice... enjoy it.
[08:48] <sabat> sigh... cancel a working transfer... or just let it go...
[08:48] <undecim> mcl0vin: None of them, I think.
[08:49] <sabat> choices choices.
[08:49] <Beyecixramd> undecim: are you sure? i thought it instantly dies after the new LTS was released
[08:49] <masterslakk> airtorix... i turned on my vboxes... they have the same ip address as the host...
[08:49] <airtonix> masterslakk, did you change the network interface 'attatched to' option to NAT ?
[08:49] <abid> Hi all, does anyone know the main reasons why a laptop may hang after boot, is it mainly to do with the graphics card or is there more?
[08:50] <undecim> Beyecixramd: I'm pretty sure that it's 3 years. Gives the people who stick with LTS releases a chance to wait for everyone else to find bugs in the next LTS, and gives them flexibility as to what part of the year to switch.
[08:50] <masterslakk> airtonix, i think it is already there... but let me check
[08:50] <masterslakk> airtonix, on the vboxes or host?
[08:50] <Beyecixramd> undecim: makes sense...
[08:50] <sabat> abid: usually when I run into that, it has to do with like a memory card reader, or CF card reader, or soemthing like that.
[08:50] <abuayyoub> histo, can someone help me please. I have an old windows partition that got messed up when I was resizing the partition to put Ubuntu.  The OS is messed up but the partition is still there. Gparted has it listed as /dev/sda3 I tried to mount it but I keep getting this error you must specify the filesystem type" I'm not sure what I have to do to access the files on this partition.
[08:50] <sabat> abid: I would seriously suggest you google your distro/laptop and see if it's a known issue.
[08:51] <Guest18708> abuayyoub, haha owned
[08:51] <masterslakk> airtonix, in details, the network adapter 1 is set to PCnet-FAST III(NAT)
[08:51] <masterslakk> airtonix, is that what it's suppose to be set to?
[08:51] <undecim> Beyecixramd: For example,  a school that uses Ubuntu might want to make the switch over the summer... It would suck to have a problem between the new release and the end of the school year that you can't get fixed because your LTS isn't supported.
[08:51] <sabat> you can guess as to what the problem is, but seriously, google it. I bet your not the first one with the problem
[08:51] <abuayyoub> Thats hello not Histo lol
[08:51] <abid> sabat: okay i'll try that.
[08:51] <abuayyoub> Guest18708,  what?
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> undecim: true
[08:51] <airtonix> masterslakk, no. "Attached TO"
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> undecim: so updates do still affect Ubuntu 8.04?
[08:52] <masterslakk> airtonix, i just started using vbox two weeks ago... i'm not understanding you... can you be a bit more definitive? where would I see this attached to?
[08:52] <Guest18708> abuayyoub, owned.
[08:52] <bazhang> Guest18708, that's enough
[08:52] <undecim> Beyecixramd: Yeah. Not every update will necessarily affect it though. Bug fixes, yes, but maybe not new versions of some software.
[08:52] <Chaorain> I downloaded a svn repo onto my comp and want to remove all the svn tracking info. How would I do that?
[08:53] <masterslakk> airtonix, oh yet... it is attached to NAT. i see it now under network settings tab...
[08:53] <mehranhu> HOW TO ADD CUSTOM BUTTON IN STATUS BAR
[08:54] <ouyes> now I have my edubuntu installed
 just check this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cG7wRYD2
[08:54] <airtonix> !caps | mehranhu
[08:54] <masterslakk> airtonix, it is set to nat... but the IP addresses are still the same as host...
[08:55] <sabat> This can't be new to all of you... but anyways... "CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!"
[08:55] <airtonix> masterslakk, i doubt you are looking in the right place
[08:55] <masterslakk> airtonix, my goal is to have one vbox talk to another.
[08:55] <vic20gmr> i found some instructions for getting linux quake 3 using windows disc
[08:55] <mehranhu> ubunto... im sorry
 this message was flooded in my syslog..
[08:55] <vic20gmr> heres the link:
[08:55] <mehranhu> mistakenly... caps
[08:55] <yosi1234> anyone know the performance hit running Apache (LAMP) on ESXi vs On a dedicated server?   I'm concerned about network latency and hard drive latency
[08:55] <vic20gmr> http://www.pillclan.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-2343.html
[08:55] <masterslakk> airtonix, do you want me to look inside the vboxes for the nat settings or on the vbox menu?
[08:55] <airtonix> mehranhu, prove to me that your guest has the same ip address as your host
[08:55] <vic20gmr> duz any1 know wut i should do?
[08:55] <vilhelm> Hello I have a RS690M Radeon X1200 graphics card and in ubuntu when running web browsers etc it's extremly choppy while in opensuse it works great
[08:56]  * airtonix rages
[08:56] <vic20gmr> it gives a term command for "linking it to opengl"
[08:56] <masterslakk> airtonix, where you talking to me?
[08:56] <mehranhu> airtonix
[08:56] <vic20gmr> but i havent had any success yet
[08:56] <mehranhu> what i need to prove . and how?
[08:56] <mehranhu> is here some ANDROID developer? and can someone help me?
[08:57] <masterslakk> airtonix, i have screenlets running in vboxes and in host... the ip network screenlet is showing the same ip address as the screenlet
[08:57] <masterslakk> in the host, therefore I've concluded that they have the same IP address.
[08:57] <mehranhu> some android developer?
[08:57] <mehranhu> ?
[08:57] <mehranhu> i need some help
[08:58] <bazhang> mehranhu, what does that have to with Ubuntu
[08:58] <ouyes> there is a keyboard short cut of my system Home folder -> XF86Explorer, what is XF86Explorer?
[08:58] <Kiasanth> masterslakk: Network Address Translation (NAT) is a mechanism whereby a number of different computers, typically on a private internal network, are represented by a single external IP address.
[08:58] <sabat> mehranhu: don't use enter as punctuation. this is a busy channel, keep everything to one line
[08:58] <airtonix> pastebin output of virtualbox guest : ifconfig
[08:58] <phlak_user> mehranhu: Android is an OS by itself. Pl check out their channel
[08:58] <poland> Hi. Can you please point in the right direction. I am working on Ubuntu 10.04. In my PC there are two NICs: eth1 (192.168.1.10) connected via DSL router to the Internet. When eth0 is configured (10.0.0.10) the Firefox is unable to resolve www addresses.
[08:58] <Beyecixramd> vds: i have no idea...
[08:58] <bazhang> mehranhu, please try an android channel
[08:58] <ouyes> bazhang, hi how are you !
[08:59] <masterslakk> kiasanth, oic... i just looked at ifconfig and they're diffrent, airtonix, kiasanth
[08:59] <bazhang> ouyes, hi
[08:59] <mehranhu> ok
[08:59] <mehranhu> bye
[08:59] <phlak_user> poland: eth0 is connected to what?
[08:59] <mehranhu> THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSS HOSTS
[09:00] <masterslakk> airtonix, host is inetaddr: 1.64 vbox is 10.0.2.15.... the hos tis on a class c
[09:00] <vds> Beyecixramd: you mean vbl I guess
[09:00] <masterslakk> airtonix, the vbox looks to be on a class a...
[09:00] <airtonix> masterslakk, number you gave for host is not an ip address
[09:00] <masterslakk> airtonix, i didn't give whole bcuz of security reasons...
[09:00] <Beyecixramd> vds: whoops... vdl: i have no idea...
[09:01] <airtonix> masterslakk, its obviously something like 192.168.1.X
[09:01] <masterslakk> yes
[09:01] <masterslakk> something like that
[09:01] <airtonix> masterslakk, which is also behind a NAT of your modem/router...
[09:01] <airtonix> masterslakk, which is irrelevant to getting your group of vbox guests running
[09:01] <ouyes> when I tried to input # press Shift and 3 but it received £? what is wrong?
[09:01] <masterslakk> airtonix, oic. so my router is running NAT  as well..
[09:02] <Kiasanth> ouyes: XF86* are keymaps for the "Special" keys on your keyboard, XF86Explorer is for running windows explorer when that key is pressed in windows
[09:02] <airtonix> masterslakk, yes but its irrelevant to getting your vbox guests talking to each other
[09:02] <masterslakk> airtonix, well what's relevant to getting them to talk to each other?
[09:03] <NFischer> @all how can i start a program in x on tty7 from another terminal (ssh from internet)?
[09:03] <masterslakk> airtonix, both my xubuntu vboxes have the same inet addr:10.0.2.15
[09:03] <poland> phlak_user: eth0 10.0.0.10 is connected to a hub where there are two other PCs connected
[09:03] <airtonix> masterslakk, 1) turn them on 2) in each vbox guest either a) run ifconfig to see its lan ip address b) right click on the network notification tray icon and select "connection information"
[09:03] <airtonix> masterslakk, ...
[09:04] <phlak_user> poland: so you want to use this PC as a gateway for those two?
[09:04] <airtonix> masterslakk, prove it to me. goto pastebin and paste the output of both vbox guests when you run this command : ifconfig
[09:04] <masterslakk> airtonix, i've done the ifconfig in both... they both have the same inet addr
[09:04] <masterslakk> omfg
[09:04] <masterslakk> alright one moment...
[09:04] <airtonix> masterslakk, i bet you 10.0.2.15 is the gateway address of your VirtualBoxNat device
[09:04] <phlak_user> poland: the loigc is simple-- you need to define the eth1 as the default gateway for the network and enable forwarding
[09:05] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> bak
[09:05] <poland> phlak_user: actually yes, I have been able to figure out how to route from 10.0.0.10 to 192.168.1.10 under Windows but have not been so brave and have not attempted under Linux/Ubuntu
[09:05] <airtonix> masterslakk, have you also ensured that all your guest configs are having their network setups on NAT ?
[09:06] <abid> I have laptop that freezes after about 10 minutes of running, how can i find out exactly what may be wrong.? what symptoms should i be looking for, are there any commands on the terminal, or something?
[09:06] <masterslakk> airtonix, yes i did...
[09:06] <masterslakk> airtonix, i can't copy from vbox and paste in host box
[09:07] <lobanovsky> kn bk
[09:07] <masterslakk> it says inet addr:10.0.2.15 under eth0  for both of 'em...
[09:07] <masterslakk> airtonix^^^
[09:07] <phlak_user> poland: this might help --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[09:08] <poland> phlak_user: would you be able to help with configuring that or can you point me towards a site, document, etc. I have been just trying to search on how to set eth1 as default instead of eth0 for 2+ hours over the past two weeks and cannot find anything that could help
[09:08] <vilhelm> Hello does ubuntu 10.04 have glx driver "out of the box" for ATI ?
[09:08] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> the the included driver is ur only choice, unless u hav r500 or newer
[09:08] <poland> phlak_user: thank you
[09:09] <masterslakk> vilhelm, prob not... it usually searches the net for proprietary drivers for video cards... did for my geforce gt220
[09:09] <phlak_user> abid: did you run the memory test at boot?
[09:09] <masterslakk> airtonix, are you there?
[09:09] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: the propriety drivers for 10.04 only supprt r500 gpus and newer
[09:09] <airtonix> masterslakk, show me the pastebin
[09:10] <masterslakk> airtonix, what's the site for pastebin again? I will show 'em to you
[09:10] <airtonix> masterslakk, i dont suppose you've tried manually assigning an ip address with the nm-applet icon yet ?
[09:10] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: okey I have a Radeon X1200 i belive
[09:10] <masterslakk> airtonix, nope... never heard of nm-applet.
[09:10] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> can any1 here tell me how to get any version of quake 3 arena running under lucid? ive tried everthing i can think of
[09:10] <airtonix> masterslakk, it is the network icon in the notification tray
[09:11] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> fig out wut rXXX gpu that is
[09:11] <airtonix> masterslakk, right click it > edit connections
[09:11] <masterslakk> airtonix, i know it's nooby... what's a notification tray?
[09:11] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: fig out wut rXXX gpu that is
[09:11] <airtonix> masterslakk, otherwise known as system tray
[09:11] <masterslakk> airtonix, is the system tray where theapplications ... places... system is at?
[09:11] <Th3On3> does anyone know a simple way to make virtual machines with paravirtual without libvirt , i want to start it when host computer reboots
[09:11] <airtonix> masterslakk, bunch of small icons found in the top right of the screen
[09:12] <Th3On3> or with libvirt but with paravirtual
[09:12] <airtonix> masterslakk, network one is looking like two arrows pointing up and down
[09:12] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: if ur using anything older than an r500 ur gonna have t stick with open source xorg driver
[09:12] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: when I had nvidia geforce 6800GT with the proprietary driver it was extremely choppy when webbrowsing
[09:13] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i know, im using an r350
[09:13] <dancek> !webmin | yosi1234
[09:13] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> hmm
[09:13] <masterslakk> airtonix, ok i found it... i'm in "network connections" right now.
[09:13] <airtonix> masterslakk, wired tab > edit the first option
[09:14] <masterslakk> ok
[09:14] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: i had better experience with a mchine i was using a while bak, it had a gf6800 or something like that
[09:14] <airtonix> masterslakk, make sure you're doing this in the vbox guest and not your host
[09:14] <dancek> yosi1234, i've heard horror stories about webmin... dunno about ebox (which ubottu suggests), it's probably better
[09:14] <masterslakk> airtonix, i'm editing "auto eth0"
[09:14] <gustygoo> My laptop LCD suddenly turns off at times in lucid, any ideas as to why? I'm using a thinkpad w500, using default drivers
[09:14] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i was helping some to learn computers in general
[09:14] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: I also have a laptop which has this x1200 card and in Ubuntu it was also laggy when webbrowsing but then I switched to OpenSuse and it worked like a dream
[09:14] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i was using proprietary drive
[09:14] <poi77> Hi! I'm trying to copy dir1 to dir2. How do I do it so that all the files in dir1 end up in dir2, not dir1 itself?
[09:15] <masterslakk> airtonix, should i go to ipv4settings?
[09:15] <dancek> yosi1234, frankly though i've got several servers that i have no physical access to but have easily been able to use and do some maintenance just over an ssh shell
[09:15] <airtonix> masterslakk, correct
[09:15] <red2kic> poi77: Use nautilus (GNOME File Manager)
[09:15] <masterslakk> airtonix, method is set at "Automatic (DHCP)"
[09:15] <poi77> red2kic: sorry, I'm sshing into this machine
[09:15] <masterslakk> airtonix, should I switch this to manual?
[09:15] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: u might try going into appearances in system | preferences, and change visual effects to none
[09:15] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i bet that will improve performance of web browser
[09:16] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: yeah i did that but it did not help
[09:16] <airtonix> masterslakk, you might want to right click on the networ icon in the systray and select 'connection information' (you'll need to know the ip address of the vbox gateway)
[09:16] <poi77> I tried cp dir1/ dir2/ but that did not work. I put dir1 in dir2
[09:16] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> im using a radeon 9600, and im watching hulu on a daily basis
[09:16] <ouyes> hi, all I can not input  #, when I press Shift+3 in my keyboard , it give a £, what is wrong??
[09:16] <poi77> What I did was cp -r dir1/ dir1/
[09:16] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> u may have to lower resolution, wut is it at right now?
[09:16] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: u may have to lower resolution, wut is it at right now?
[09:17] <red2kic> poi77: mkdir {One,Two} ; touch One/{1,2,3} Two/{3,4,5} ; cp -a One/* Two/
[09:17] <debjit> No sound from my laptop speakers only from headphones, any help?
[09:17] <masterslakk> airtonix, kk, it says ip address 10.0.2.15 default route 10.0.2.2
[09:17] <red2kic> poi77: Play with it to learn more. :o
[09:17] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: well 1024 x 768 i belive it is
[09:17] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> hmm
[09:17] <phlak_user> poi77: cd into dir1 and then do a cp -r * /path/to/dir2
[09:18] <phlak_user> ouyes: change your keyboard layout
[09:18] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: but it's not a big problem anymore because i use opensuse but it would be interesting to figure out why the performance was not so good
[09:18] <airtonix> masterslakk, then 10.0.2.2 is the ip address of your vbox virtual router. use that in the gateway section of your manual eth1 setup
[09:18] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> go into system | preferences | synaptic package manager
[09:18] <ouyes> phlak_user, where?
[09:18] <phlak_user> ouyes: System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layout tab
[09:18] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> then click "reload" to make sure u have latest list, then clik mark all upgrades
[09:18] <ouyes> phlak_user, change to what?
[09:19] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: then click "reload" to make sure u have latest list, then clik mark all upgrades
[09:19] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> if u dont hav it runnable, that will b diff at best
[09:19] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: if u dont hav it runnable, that will b diff at best
[09:19] <phlak_user> ouyes: to whatever you want; I have a US keyboard. There is an option that says "Add"; Click on it and choose.
[09:20] <debjit> There no sound from my laptop speaker only from headphones in Ubuntu 10.04
[09:20] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> vilhelm: i havent the foggiest idea y u didnt hav good perf in browsing, im doing ol with a readeon 9600 on an old p4 2.5ghz
[09:20] <poi77> phlak_user, red2kic: Thank you very much! I'm wondering what happens if there are files of the same name in dir1. Will they be overwritten?
[09:20] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> ok*
[09:21] <red2kic> poi77: Check "cp --help"  -- There also are -i (for interactive mode).
[09:21] <masterslakk> airtonix, now it doesn't connect to the network...
[09:21] <masterslakk> airtonix, is this suppose to still be connected to the internet?
[09:21] <ububtuxxx> i have porobleme with flash palyer in ubuntu amd64 :s
[09:22] <dancek> red2kic, poi77, rather 'man cp' than 'cp --help' if you really wanna learn what it does
[09:22] <airtonix> masterslakk, your vbox guests were never connected to the internet (not until you provide some ICS on the host )
[09:22] <vilhelm> vic20gmr_[lucid]: yeah it was really odd ... I had bad performance in ubuntu with both nvidia and ati even though the ati performed better than the nvidia which was strange but anyway it works like a dream in opensuse atm
[09:22] <phlak_user> poi77: yes
[09:22] <ububtuxxx> i have porobleme with flash palyer in ubuntu amd64 :s
[09:22] <ububtuxxx> i have porobleme with flash palyer in ubuntu amd64 :s
[09:22] <ububtuxxx> i have porobleme with flash palyer in ubuntu amd64 :s
[09:22] <FloodBot1> ububtuxxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:23] <optimusP> on lucid, where is .tomboy
[09:23] <ouyes> phlak_user, ok I can input # now
[09:23] <ouyes> phlak_user, thanks
[09:23] <optimusP> .tomboy notes
[09:23] <phlak_user> ouyes: thats great
[09:23] <red2kic> optimusP: "locate tomboy" in the Terminal.
[09:24] <poi77> phlak_user: Thank you very much
[09:24] <stephank> optimusP: applications -> accessories, or add it to your panel
[09:24] <phlak_user> poi77: yw
[09:25] <masterslakk> airtonix, why is this so confusing?
[09:25] <optimusP> stephank, i have to sync my backup of tomboy
[09:25] <ManDay> I'm looking for a configurable PDF-Viewer for Ubuntu which is small but offers at least the functionality that Evice has.
[09:25] <optimusP> tomboy*
[09:25] <airtonix> masterslakk, because you dont really understand how networking and virtualisation works ?
[09:26] <airtonix> masterslakk, (its not meant to be easy)
[09:26] <masterslakk> airtonix, very true. is there a book/guide that will teach me this information throughly?
[09:26] <stephank> optimusP: Oh, the configuration directory is .config/tomboy
[09:26] <Ou42> hello all - reinstalling grub q's - installed 10.04 "side by side" but it squeezed in between vista and 9.xx and vista had a cow.  got vista working again at the cost of not being able to boot into any ver of ubuntu.  via livecd gparted 10.04 to take over space of 9.xx partitions.  will grub 2 "tutorial" still work?
[09:26] <airtonix> masterslakk, maybe but im not aware of it
[09:26] <moetunes> ManDay: I find xpdf satisfactory
[09:27] <masterslakk> airtonix, haha. kk understandable... how did you figure out about it?
[09:27] <optimusP> stephank, ok, thanks, let me try it
[09:27] <airtonix> masterslakk, lots of experimentation and time
[09:27] <ManDay> moetunes, I don't like xpdf very much -it's functional but it's quite cumbersome and unhandy if it comes to doing things like zooming in and so forth
[09:27] <masterslakk> airtonix, oh no schooling?
[09:27] <phlak_user>  ManDay whats wrong with evince?
[09:27] <airtonix> masterslakk, no school i've been to has teachers willing or competent enough to teach this
[09:28] <moetunes> ManDay: there's a comprimise between light and functionality...
[09:28] <ManDay> phlak_user, its not configurable at all. The sidepane nor the toolbar can be disabled. It doesnt have any configration at all,
[09:28] <phlak_user> ManDay: then acrobat reader is all youve got
[09:28] <ManDay> moetunes, I think xpdf doesnt make a compromise. its *just* light
[09:28] <masterslakk> airtonix, what you just said didn't make sense... reiterate?
[09:28] <ferrandu> hi to all
[09:28] <ferrandu> a little wuestion
[09:28] <hvralpha> ou42: do you have one or 2 disks in the computer. How many partitions on each
[09:29] <paul__> how can I turn off showing everytime people join and leave in irssi?
[09:29] <phlak_user> !hi| ferrandu
[09:29] <bazhang> !quietirssi | paul__
[09:29] <airtonix> masterslakk, try your tertiary colleges. they might have a network engineering course
[09:29] <ferrandu> I'm using Xubuntu, evolution and chromium
[09:29] <paul__> ubottu: that was amazing
[09:29] <masterslakk> airtonix, oic. ok i will
[09:30] <bazhang> paul__, she's a bot
[09:30] <ferrandu> in my XFCE configuration Im selected chromium as prefered webrowser
[09:30] <paul__> ubottu: don't say that, you are smart and helpful
[09:30] <paul__> bazhang: I'm not that clueless
[09:30] <phlak_user> o_O
[09:30] <paul__> =)
[09:30] <ferrandu> bubut evolution goes to open links with firefox
[09:30] <still> Hi, who could guide me which channel for books?
[09:30] <ferrandu> :(
[09:30] <bazhang> ok..
[09:30] <Ou42> hvralpha - one disk.  not sure.. not on it at the moment, but the tut i mentioned is "How to restore the Ubuntu/XP/Vista/7 bootloader (Updated for Ubuntu 9.10)" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[09:30] <hmw> still: sorry, I am not sure, what you want, please rephrase the question
[09:30] <phlak_user> ferrandu: you might have to configure evolution's helper apps
[09:31] <paul__> is anyone familiar with this problem i'm having with gnome-do, i have opensearch plugin, but I can' tuse it
[09:31] <paul__> it doesn't come up
[09:31] <Ou42> hvralpha - but the previous grub menu was huge as i had previously installed 2 more kernels to 9.xx
[09:31] <ferrandu> in what site or in what configuration file?
[09:31] <ruif13> hi, i have conkythme and when ubuntu starts the conkytheme stay in front of all windows, i made a workaround to that is open the config file and save it and they goes to back anyone can help?
[09:31] <ouyes> phlak_user, I changed the keyboard layout successfully, but now I can not input the right password of my account .
[09:32] <phlak_user> ouyes: you can switch between layouts
[09:32] <phlak_user> ferrandu: using the gnome-control-center --> http://www.fifi.org/doc/gnome-control-center/html/control-center/C/index.html
[09:32] <hmw> ruif13: that sounds weird. Did you 1) do anything with Compiz regarding Conky 2) try another configuration to make sure, it isnt some command in the config?
[09:33] <red2kic> bazhang: What happened to !conky?
[09:33] <ouyes> phlak_user, how to change the password of my account?
[09:33] <bazhang> red2kic, never thought there was one
[09:33] <hvralpha> Ou42 : There is or was a bug in 10.04 which did not detect the win partitions correctly and listed them in grub, but could not boot them. If you have one disk 10.04 will overwrite MBR and vista will not boot
[09:33] <red2kic> ouyes: passwd
[09:33] <lyrae> i installed phpmyadmin. where do i go to see it? btw i changed apache's config so server root is not www
[09:33] <ferrandu> thx phlak_user i'm find one page talking about my problem searching 'evolution's helper apps'
[09:34] <red2kic> bazhang: Oh okay. ;o
[09:34] <ferrandu> egunon overmind
[09:34] <phlak_user> lyrae: you open up a browser and point it to htttp://localhost/phpmyadmin  if you configured it right
[09:34] <lyrae> and it seems to be installed in /usr/share
[09:34] <bazhang> red2kic, there is a great thread on ubuntuforums for it though
[09:34] <ruif13> hmw i dont touch in compiz to do any with conky, and i insert a comand line in config on_bottom yes
[09:35] <lyrae> phlak_user, thanks
[09:35] <Ellement> i want to install ubuntu 10.0.4 from usb key. i need to format the usb on a mac, what type volume format do i need? ie mac os extended journaled??
[09:35] <hmw> !paste | ruif13: on_bottom shouldnt do it - but let me check your config. Please use the pastebin
[09:35] <phlak_user> Ellement: fat32
[09:35] <Ellement> phlak_user: thanks
[09:36] <still> hi guys, who could help to let me know how which channcel i start with to download ebooks and other materials?
[09:36] <abid> phlak_user: sorry had to go away to test out something, how do i test memory at boot?
[09:36] <ruif13> hmw http://paste.ubuntu.com/438232/
[09:36] <ouyes> red2kic, ok now
[09:36] <bazhang> still, /msg alis list *ebooks*
[09:37] <ManDay> What does it take for a fix being committed in a project to go into the package so updating the package through aptitude will fix the problem?
[09:37] <red2kic> !latest | ManDay
[09:37] <lyrae> jesus christ. phpmyadmin still looks like a 1997 website
[09:38] <red2kic> ManDay: See Launchpad -- If the fix have been released.
[09:38] <phlak_user> abid: you select the option that says memtest at boot
[09:38] <ManDay> red2kic, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/evince/+bug/503372 Changed in evince (Ubuntu):
[09:38] <ManDay> status: 	Fix Committed → Fix Released   - so?
[09:38] <ManDay> How long will I have to wait?
[09:38] <ManDay> (for it to come into the repos)
[09:39] <Ou42> hvralpha - researching bug.  what is the workaround to dual booting vista and 10.04 if grub is a no go?
[09:39] <maelaian> Any help? I upgraded a fresh 9.10 to 10.04 and rebooted, when i type in my user account info to log in i see the new desktop background but no menu bar or anything else is showing up.
[09:39] <abid> phlak_user: there are two, trying the first one now...
[09:39] <phlak_user> maelaian: what session did you select at gdm?
[09:40] <phlak_user> abid: ok
[09:40] <red2kic> ManDay: I think that's under lucid-proposed.
[09:40] <jahm> My conky has something in side, how do you remove them?
[09:40] <red2kic> ManDay: Read the whole thing in the link you give me. "Test case:"
[09:41] <hmw> ruif13: On my computer, conky behaves. Please tell me about your setup; Ubuntu Version, GNOME/KDE/other Desktop, Graphics Driver/Card, Desktop Themes you might have installed, ...
[09:41] <ManDay> thanks
[09:41] <ruif13> hmw i have gnome, my graphic driver is nvidia and i dont have any kind of themes in desktop
[09:41] <arunkumar413> i'm unable to join the #python channel
[09:41] <maelaian> session, i didnt pick any
[09:41] <bazhang> !register > arunkumar413
[09:42] <still> bazhang: thanks
[09:42] <hvralpha> Ou42: I downloaded supergrub2  iso and made a boot disk. It allows me to boot into any installed system on the computer.
[09:42] <hmw> ruif13: weird. But I found this, I hope it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388560
[09:43] <paul__> how can I make a search plugin for opensearch?
[09:43] <abota> flashplugin-nonfree is crashing
[09:43] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> im trying to run instalation of windows programs off of cd's, and i keep getting "not marked executable"
[09:43] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i have wine
[09:43] <abota> kind upsetting every time you watch a video xserver restarts
[09:43] <abota> is there an alternative?
[09:43] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> any sugg's?
[09:44] <hmw> ManDay: You might find this interesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[09:44] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> im trying to run instalation of windows programs off of cd's, and i keep getting "not marked executable"
[09:44] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i have wine
[09:44] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> any sugg's?
[09:44] <phlak_user> !repeat| vic20gmr_[lucid]
[09:44] <arunkumar413> bazhang:i tried to register,i'm getting an error "invalid email"
[09:44] <Ellement> i cant seem to restore my ubuntu iso image to my usb key on a mac, any help?
[09:44] <bazhang> vic20gmr_[lucid], check the appdb and join #winehq
[09:44] <Jordan_U> vic20gmr_[lucid]: You need to copy them off the CD and onto a filesystem that supports the executable bit.
[09:44] <ManDay> hmw thanks i read it
[09:44] <bazhang> arunkumar413, help in #freenode
[09:44] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> appdb? how?
[09:44] <bazhang> !appdb
[09:44] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> bazhang: appdb? how?
[09:45] <bazhang> vic20gmr_[lucid], look above
[09:45] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> ill try it
[09:45] <Ou42> hvralpha - thanks.  will research supergrub2.
[09:45] <maelaian> Gnome is the session picked, but i get no gnome display, just the background when i login after upgrade
[09:46] <perhamlinux> hi, after upgrading to lucid, everytime I open a file in audacious, instead of clearing the playlist and adding only new files, it adds the opened files to the previous playlist. this is very annoying. how can I revert it?
[09:46] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> r there any ways of making it work off of the discs themselves?
[09:46] <phlak_user> maelaian: try safe mode
[09:46] <abota> any hlp with flash?
[09:46] <hmw> vic20gmr_[lucid]: Perhaps it will work, if you call wine and tell it to start the file like in the terminal:   wine <.exe filename>   (cd into the CDROM directory prior to that)
[09:46] <maelaian> phlak_user: alrite gotta reboot
[09:46] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> ill try it
[09:46] <phlak_user> maelaian: just log out
[09:46] <bazhang> vic20gmr_[lucid], /join #winehq for specific app help
[09:46] <perhamlinux> hi, after upgrading to lucid, everytime I open a file in audacious, instead of clearing the playlist and adding only new files, it adds the opened files to the previous playlist. this is very annoying. how can I revert it?
[09:47] <phlak_user> !repeat | perhamlinux
[09:47] <hmw> vic20gmr_[lucid]: 3782 bytes free? LOL i had a VIC-20
[09:47] <perhamlinux> phlak_user: I've searched there already and found nothing
[09:48] <hyunckle> how to add volume controller to ubuntu panel?
[09:48] <hmw> perhamlinux: I know that doing web searches is boring and frustrating some times. Perhaps you can find better search phrases, if you try to figure out, how other people might have asked the question on forums.
[09:48] <NFischer> @all how can i start a program in x on tty7 from another terminal (ssh from internet)?
[09:49] <ManDay> moetunes, do you know whether xpdf can be configured to open documents in continous view by default?
[09:49] <red2kic> hyunckle: ALT+F2 --> gnome-volume-control-applet
[09:49] <abid> hyunckle: right click on the panel click add to panel and on the window that comes up find the volume control
[09:49] <red2kic> NFischer: "DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox &"
[09:49] <moetunes> ManDay: nope - I just use it basically - don't read mant pdfs
[09:49] <moetunes> s/mant/many
[09:50] <ManDay> hmk thanks
[09:50] <hyunckle> abid: perfect. thanks.
[09:50] <ManDay> moetunes, i just found out that yes it can be configured neatly - nice!
[09:51] <maelaian> gnome failsafe leads to a blank desktop nothing but the desktop graphic too.
[09:51] <moetunes> ManDay: great! :]
[09:51] <NFischer> red2kic, that worked pretty dawn well ty!
[09:51] <perhamlinux> hmw:  since this issue has happened after lucid upgrade, it seems that not enough people have been using audacious with lucid and/or they are ok with this new behavior. I've searched anywhere I could for something relevant, but found nothing. is there any file that provides more audacious options than it's gui?
[09:51] <alket> I have a problem with videos recorded with RecordMyDesktop, after uploading them to Youtube they are totally scrambled, even if I add them to OpenShot they are scrambled , how to fix this ?
[09:52] <red2kic> NFischer: No problem. In the future, you can do "ssh -X user@host" for automagically forwarded X11.
[09:52] <hyunckle> abid: what about empathy on panel?
[09:52] <NFischer> red2kic, ya, but im getting on it from an iphone
[09:52] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> hmw: thx that worked
[09:53] <hmw> perhamlinux: I fear the best "documentation" would be the source code :/( You could try to find the project's web site and ask in their forum, if    man audacious    or    info audacious    doesn't help. Keep on trying, sometimes I find stuff after days
[09:54] <phlak_user> perhamlinux: maybe audacious has a config file, typically in the home directory like inside a directory called .audacious
[09:54] <perhamlinux> hmw:  thanks. I'll search a bit more. seems that I need to look around a bit more
[09:54] <abid> hyunckle: from applications>internet>empathy either drag and drop to panel or right click an 'add this panel to launcher'
[09:54] <phlak_user> maelaian: what do you get when you right-click with the mouse?
[09:55] <perhamlinux> phlak_user: no .audacious in ~
[09:55] <ruif13> hmw it's works!!!!
[09:55] <mikeru> HALP
[09:55] <hmw> ruif13: I am glad
[09:55] <mikeru> I'm getting
[09:55] <mikeru> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
[09:55] <OttifantSir> Does anyone know why ffmpeg2theora only converts the last file in a folder, but renames it as the first? Any idea on how I can fix this and automate the conversion of videos from AVI to OGV?
[09:55] <mikeru> in Xorg.0.log
[09:55] <ruif13> hmw thanks a lot!
[09:55] <hmw> perhamlinux: good luck! Perhaps you find the setting in your home dir indeed
[09:55] <hyunckle> abid: ok, thanks. :)
[09:56] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> hmw: hehe i need to get mine shipped to me soon, left it with my parents
[09:56] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> i was playin "raid on fort knox" on emulator the other day
[09:56] <perhamlinux> hmw: seems that /usr/share/audacious/ui/playlist.ui is somehow relevant. I will report if I got any success. ;)
[09:57] <phlak_user> perhamlinux: its prolly here ~/.config/audacious/config
[09:57] <hmw> perhamlinux: yeah, please do so
[09:57] <ouyes> I have a few files produced by AutoCAD under windows, how can I view the file in my ubuntu ? which software do I need?
[09:57] <moetunes> !cad
[09:57] <phlak_user> ouyes: some kind of dwg viewer
[09:58] <moetunes> !info freecad
[09:58] <mikeru> ._.
[09:59] <hmw> ouyes: perhaps "VariCAD" is good for you. According to the forum entry, it can only display the file though. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1214611.html
[09:59] <red2kic> ouyes: Man, I missed AutoCAD. Won 1st place in regional when I was in high school. :)
[10:00] <lgp> hi, I have a problem with flashplayer
[10:00] <Nud3lz> hi
[10:00] <hmw> !hi | lgp Nud3lz
[10:01] <ububtuxxx> i have porobleme with flash palyer in ubuntu amd64 :s
[10:01] <ouyes> phlak_user, hmw red2kic I will come across some auto cad files in my work
[10:01] <hmw> lgp: we need more information. What is going wrong?
[10:01] <lgp> my webcam control in flash player freezes the website when I try to enable webcam
[10:02] <Nud3lz> juhu
[10:02] <mikeru> anybody willing to help a person which can't even get to X?
[10:02] <perhamlinux> hmw, phlak_user , got it. in ~/.config/audacious/config , changed clear_playlist to true and voila!
[10:02] <hmw> !ask | mikeru
[10:02] <lgp> I have Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64
[10:02] <perhamlinux> hmw, phlak_user thanks for the help
[10:02] <mikeru> hmw: I already did
[10:03] <bazhang> mikeru, ask with some specificity
[10:03] <mikeru> again: I'm dropped to tty1. X won't start. Xorg.0.log says: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
[10:03] <hmw> mikeru: in this case, repeat your question, but not too often. Just asking "will someone help me" makes me feel like answering "perhaps", because I didnt see your initial question.
[10:03] <mikeru> hmw: ok sorry
[10:04] <hmw> mikeru: don't worry... i am currently scrolling up for you ;-)
[10:04] <abid> phlak_user: wow this memory test takes a while
[10:05] <ouyes> VirtualBox? if I install xp in ubuntu , can I get full support as I really install xp, like install autoCAD under the xp(in the virtualBox)
[10:05] <abid> ouyes: yes but you must have a good enough computer to run both xp and ubuntu
[10:05] <hmw> mikeru: I see people with NVidia problems quite often here, and I won't be of much help, except for some generic hints. Please http://paste.ubuntu.com the file, the following command will generate:    grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > temp.grep.file
[10:05] <maelaian> Anyone know what might cause this? Upgraded a fresh 9.10 to 10.04. Logging into my user gets just the background image for gnome and failsafe after reboot.
[10:06] <mikeru> hmw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438242/
[10:07] <mikeru> hmw: it used to work, it's not a fresh install i just did
[10:07] <ouyes> I think I have
[10:07] <lgp> must I contact Adobe   regarding the flashplayer or can I replace it with gnash?It works except the webcamcontrol
[10:07] <vic20gmr_[lucid]> hmw: i cudnt get it to run right, so im trying installing thru playonlinux, i forgit ab it
[10:08] <alket> how to convert ogv to avi (no devede) ?
[10:08] <overmind> alket: ffmpeg + winff
[10:08] <abid> ouyes: the quickest way to find out is to try it out, if it turns out you don't have the specifications you can try stripping xp of unnecessary components so it runs faster
[10:09] <alket> overmind : can you please tell me the whole command
[10:09] <hmw> mikeru: I can't see the reason here, too. THe log file recommends to check the system log:   try tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog  and see, if you find anything.
[10:09] <overmind> alket: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg winff
[10:10] <ouyes> abid, I have a p7370 and 2gb ram , I think it is powerful enough
[10:10] <alket> overmind: thank you, now how to convert ?
[10:10] <mikeru> hmw: I'd do so, but it's full of applesmc: wait status failed so I think I'll upload the whole file
[10:10] <hmw> mikeru: wait
[10:11] <hmw> mikeru: use   tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | grep -v applesmc     (or whatever you DONT want to be included)
[10:11] <alket> overmind: thank you, i got it
[10:12] <abid> ouyes: then that should be fine, ubuntu takes about 512mb ram and so does xp i think
[10:13] <hmw> mikeru: i found this about the applesmc log entries, perhaps that helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=559799
[10:13] <mikeru> hmw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438243/
[10:13] <ouyes> abid, if I need to change from ubuntu to xp or from xp to ubuntu , it is fast? do I need to restart?
[10:13] <mikeru> hmw: i've googled it. seems to have been patched, and patched, and patched again… I think i'll end up like #7
[10:15] <Titan_> hey guyz could someone plz help with grub2, i tried to get windows to be the default choice but somehow i ended up removing it from the boot menu completely and running sudo update-grub sees windows but it still doesnt show up when i reboot
[10:15] <pat109> hi
[10:15] <mikeru> !hi | pat109
[10:15] <pat109> how can i run Wine with sudo
[10:15] <mikeru> pat109: you don't
[10:16] <pat109> why
[10:16] <Jordan_U> Titan_: What exactly did you do to try to make windows the default?
[10:16] <hmw> mikeru: hmm, sounds bad, sorry. I won't be able to help any further. There are 2 "unknowns" in your issue; I have never used a Mac and I also don't have NVidia. Please try to find someone else in this channel, who knows more than I. It looks like you're suffering on a Plymouth issue.
[10:16] <mikeru> pat109: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-96bebfa287b4288974de0df23351f278b0d41014
[10:16] <gustygoo> ubuntu 10.04 unexpectedly stops sending my monitor input - it just goes black. Anyone have an idea?
[10:16] <abid> ouyes: if you're running virtualbox then both will run simultaneously, xp will be an application window, you can switch very easily, just click on the ubuntu desktop or anything outside of virtualbox
[10:16] <mikeru> hmw: plymouth works
[10:16] <maelaian> Anyone know what might cause this? Upgraded a fresh 9.10 to 10.04. Logging into my user gets just the background image for gnome and failsafe after reboot.
[10:16] <hmw> mikeru: look at the log
[10:16] <Titan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[10:17] <hmw> mikeru: "sardina init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1257) terminated with status 1 " i think that means, plymouth ended unsuccessfully
[10:17] <Titan_> i followed that guide and tried to set the windows string under sudo-grub-set-default
[10:17] <abid> ouyes: you could be running firefox on ubuntu, and autoCad on xp, you won't need to reboot
[10:17] <hmw> mikeru: but I might quite likely be wrong. I have no clue, what your problem might be, to be honest.
[10:18] <hmw> pat109: why would you want to run a wine program as super user?
[10:18] <mikeru> hmw: the log says it doesn't? it must be lying, it showed the ubuntu startup screen, in full color and widescreen, then a blinking _ which blinks at the top then half through the screen, going like that until  it might or not show the Ubuntu LTS login thing.
[10:18] <pat109> I play Dota on Ubuntu but i can't play on LAN
[10:18] <hmw> mikeru: this is something really weird, perhaps interesting: sardina gdm-binary[903]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.209775 seconds
[10:18] <ouyes> abid, there are quite a few VirtualBoxs in the Synaptic
[10:19] <hmw> pat109: i see. How did you come to the idea, that using sudo might help? Did you get a message suggesting something similar?
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Titan_: Did you set GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub ?
[10:19] <cherrycake> .
[10:19] <cherrycake> ?
[10:19] <MACscr_lappy> i have two x sessions going on, is it possible to setup a different background for each?
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Titan_: And can you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[10:19] <cherrycake> what is this channel about?
[10:20] <hmw> mikeru: do you have an xorg.conf file? (did you create one?)
[10:20] <mefiX> hi guys! in ubuntu 9.10 i get some weird font/graphic errors in emacs23, does someone know whats going on there?
[10:20] <hmw> !hi | cherrycake
[10:20] <mikeru> hmw: oh so weird. weirdest is, it brought me to the login screen, I rebooted, and then that started happening…… and no, no custom xorg.conf
[10:20] <mochacocha> running 8.04, tried to install flash 10...no install errors, but it seems like firefox/ubuntu is ignoring it. I did a remove of flash 9 before install...anyway, went to about:plugins, it still lists flash 9 as my plugin
[10:20] <mochacocha> woah..weird lag..
[10:20] <Titan_> http://pastebin.com/Nsb4vMMV
[10:20] <pat109> @hmw: I think to bind port on Ubuntu, you must be root
[10:21] <histo> Is there a video editor for linux that doesn't completely suck?
[10:21] <mikeru> pat109: like port forwarding?
[10:21] <hmw> pat109: i see. mikeru: Looks like he wants the game to start a service. pat: Perhaps you find answers in #winehq
[10:22] <mikeru> huh
[10:22] <hmw> server
[10:22] <Jordan_U> histo: pitivi is pretty good if you want just a basic editor, cinelerra / blender for professional work.
[10:22] <llutz> pat109: it only needs to be root to open ports < 1024
[10:22] <pat109> @hmw: Dota use Winsock to bind port, so it need privilege
[10:22] <histo> Jordan_U: both just appeared buggy and crashed a lot when I was just testing
[10:22] <hmw> i never had a problem with wine games and network
[10:23] <pat109> @llutz: why i can play Dota on LAN before update?
[10:23] <abid> If you want to install virtualbox, the open source version (OSE) and the closed-source commercial version. both are free, but the commercial version offers more options you should research both before you choose
[10:23] <llutz> pat109: idk, whatever dota is
[10:24] <abid> ouyes: If you want to install virtualbox, there are two versions the open source version (OSE) and the closed-source commercial version. both are free, but the commercial version offers more options you should research both before you choose
[10:24] <hmw> histo: perhaps not *smirks* did you read this already? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video-editing.html
[10:24] <Titan_> ive tried to revert back to default as 0
[10:24] <Titan_> but the problem still persists
[10:24] <mochacocha> why would firefox still list flash 9 if I removed it from the termina? I'm obviously missing something.hm
[10:24] <mikeru> hmw and others: if I blacklist applesmc, which disables sensor info and backlight, will it still set up the appropiate fan speed? (I don't even know if the hardware does when it's getting too hot, Mac OS X seems to manage just about everything the hardware does)
[10:25] <mochacocha> terminal**
[10:25] <ikonia> mochacocha: how did you remove it ?
[10:25] <hmw> mikeru: I never used a Mac, so I can't tell... :(
[10:25] <mikeru> hmw: ok :I
[10:25] <histo> hmw: yes unfortunately I've played with them all. I'm trying to make a convert out of a windows user but sadly linux is lacking in this area.
[10:25] <mochacocha> ikonia, sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:26] <ikonia> mochacocha: that's just a meta package, that won't actually remove it
[10:26] <ikonia> mochacocha: if you watch the install, it actually is a set of scripts that pulls flash from adobe.com
[10:26] <Astyx> mikeru, why would you like to blacklist applesmc ?
[10:26] <mochacocha> oh. but in synaptic I don't see flash 9 as being installed?
[10:27] <ikonia> mochacocha: because that meta package has been removed, synaptic/apt only lists packages
[10:27] <mochacocha> ah
[10:27] <mikeru> Astyx: keeps writing to syslog: wait status failed, #7 ended up blacklisting it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=559799
[10:27] <hmw> histo: Heh, another missionary. *smirks* I only used the preinstalled video editor, and it was just "ok", but I am certainly not a power user when it comes to video editing. You might get lucky and make a windows video app run in wine, perhaps?
[10:27] <ikonia> mochacocha: eg: if you did an rm -rf /boot and then look in synaptic it would still show the kernels, even though the actual kernels had been removed
[10:28] <mochacocha> ikonia, will take your word on that one...
[10:28] <costre> histo, Right? I mean. the guy who made virtualdub should look toward making a linux app next
[10:28] <mochacocha> =)
[10:28] <histo> hmw: Yeah I'm checkign wines appdb as we speak. Doesn't appear that his app of choice works. I'm looking at openshot that looks promissing
[10:28] <ikonia> mochacocha: yes, certainly wise not to do that, it was just a very clear exmaple
[10:28] <mochacocha> I know
[10:29] <Igramul> Hi, is it possible to shrink an ext4 partition, that's mounted?
[10:29] <Titan_> Jordan_U: i set grub_default back to 0 using terminal
[10:29] <ikonia> Igramul: no
[10:29] <hmw> histo: keep in mind, that Ubuntu is not intended to be a copy of windows, but an alternative. It has it's advantages as also drawbacks. Perhaps you both read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:30] <histo> hmw: No I know i've been using linux for years. I'm just trying to convwert all my co-workers that way I can stop fixing their windows boxes.
[10:30] <histo> hmw: I've converted 3 already
[10:30] <hmw> histo: heheh, I know that song. Good luck!
[10:31] <mochacocha> ikonia, what steps would you suggest? the only output I get from locate libflash is '/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libflash680li.so' which I'm going to assume means it didn't locate flash 9 or 10 on my system..but I don't know
[10:31] <hmw> histo: I just thought that text might help your coworkers understand, why not everything works as they are used to
[10:31] <Beyecixramd> histo: great :)
[10:31] <ikonia> mochacocha: locate only searchs specific paths, I'd do a find on the box to find it in every location
[10:31] <Beyecixramd> histo: my policy is: don't help windows users for free except when installing Linux :)
[10:31] <abid> phlak_user: ok done the memory test, it said: no errors, memory test passed
[10:31] <histo> The one guy is hilariosu he's like if linux is free why does everyone use windows.
[10:31] <blaha> why might it be that when I visit my apache server chrome downloads index.php instead of running it?
[10:31] <Beyecixramd> histo: if they still want help, they will have to pay me
[10:32] <mochacocha> ikonia, wow if that didn't spew a billion results haha
[10:32] <Astyx> mikeru, i have macbook 4.1 and using Kernel 2.6.33 don't have this problem
[10:32] <ikonia> ok chaps - can we drop the linux->windows conversation chat please
[10:32] <Beyecixramd> histo: i've heard that hundreds of times...
[10:32] <hmw> blaha: missing mime type probably
[10:32] <ikonia> mochacocha: redirect 2>/dev/null
[10:32] <Beyecixramd> ikonia: yep... better stay on topix
[10:32] <Beyecixramd> topic*
[10:32] <blaha> hmw: thanks, I'll go find out what a mime type is. much appreciated.
[10:32] <Beyecixramd> blaha: "format"
[10:32] <Astyx> mikeru, i really dont think its a good idea to blacklist applesmc
[10:33] <cagge> NEED HELP With sending special chars to mobile like æø and å python script
[10:33] <hmw> blaha: you have to tell apache, that PHP files are executeable files. You didnt everything needed to make PHP active... i am looking into my cheat sheet for you right now
[10:33] <pataliebre> hi. today i made an appet with java. but it gives me few errors. can anyone open it? http://hnode.tripod.com/ . i am using ubuntu 9.10
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Titan_: Could you run this script and pastebin the output?
[10:33] <mikeru> Astyx: installed it from mactel repos... it's supposedly for backlight and that, but it doesn't work anyways because mine's a horrible macbook5.2 which hates linux and does bizarre things to keep it away, from not booting if acpi isn't off and forcing you to use grub-efi, to actually initiating bogus firmware updates when booting it (sometimes)
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Titan_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[10:33] <ikonia> pataliebre: please do your development/testing work elsewhere, this channel is for ubuntu support
[10:34] <blaha> hmw: really appreciate it
[10:34] <blaha> I'm using webmin on ubuntu
[10:34] <blaha> aha
[10:34] <histo> Yeap looks like openshot for the win. I dont' know why this app isn't covered much on the web
[10:34] <hmw> blaha: cheat #1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438255/ perhaps you missed a step. this might be a bit too short.
[10:35] <Beyecixramd> histo: who knows... i love it indeed
[10:35] <blaha> hmw: webmin has a mime editor, I just need to know what "type" to assign to php and I can complete it
[10:35] <Beyecixramd> histo: the WMM for Linux
[10:35] <llutz> !webmin > blaha
[10:35] <histo> Beyecixramd: looks like more than wmm. He wanted something where he could add more audio tracks etc...
[10:35] <blaha> hmw: I see it in your url, thanks
[10:35] <Jordan_U> mikeru: It's amazing how broken Apple's firmware can be :)
[10:35] <mochacocha> ikonia, okay.... I'm googling as I type but offhand would you know how I should go about completely removing flash?
[10:35] <Beyecixramd> histo: yeah, a WMM improved and open source :)
[10:36] <histo> Beyecixramd: hopefully this will work for him
[10:36] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: go to synaptic and type in Flash
[10:36] <cyberix> Yesterday I installed Ubuntu for my litle brother. Now, there is something seriously wrong because gnome-panel fails loading on login. I had to place a script for booting the panel on the desktop. So he can now boot the panel once he has logged in.
[10:36] <cyberix> Does anyone recognize the problem?
[10:36] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, absolutely no installed packages show up when I do that
[10:36] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: weirdo... can you remove it from Firefox?
[10:36] <ouyes> when I use smplayer to open a .mkv video, there is any black screen ,no active images, anything wrong?
[10:36] <Tonus> cyberix, yes. if you're using a matrox video card: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/572550
[10:37] <cyberix> I was able to use Application, Places and System, buy everything else was dead before the panel restart
[10:37] <cyberix> Tonus: thanks a lot
[10:37] <Beyecixramd> ouyes: wrong codecs / no codecs?
[10:37] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, one sec, didn't even think about trying that...
[10:37] <cyberix> Tonus: it is indeed a matrox card
[10:37] <abid> does anyone know the main reasons why a freshly installed laptop would freeze?
[10:37] <ouyes> Beyecixramd, no tips
[10:37] <moetunes> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | ouyes
[10:37] <Titan_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/PRWaTq5C
[10:37] <Tonus> cyberix, register yourself as being affected by the bug (if you have a launchpad login), that helps.
[10:37] <maelaian> how do u get back to x after you ctrl alt shift f#
[10:38] <moetunes> maelaian: alt+f7
[10:38] <cyberix> Tonus: done
[10:38] <mikeru> Jorden_U: terribly broken. It tried to update the firmware once after pressing enter in the grub menu... i turned it off, then back on. mac os x would show a cross instead of the apple after a while and never boot, grub wouldn't show up, live cds would hang up at the ISOLINUX copyright screen, windows cds at the Press any key to boot from CD... and so on. it suddenly got fixed a week later when someone at the apple store powered it on. literally, he just pres
[10:38] <mikeru> power, and mac os x booted perfectly
[10:38] <Astyx> macbook is really just an expensive bullshit, the only reason to use a mac is because of macos witch i hate; apple did an awesome job to be fucking monopol on their macs and not allow to run other systems then macos or win
[10:39] <cherrycake> ji
[10:39] <cherrycake> hi
[10:39] <Synyster> why is ubuntu telling me i'm not authorised to mount my DVD drive?
[10:39] <cherrycake> what is ubuntu?
[10:39] <Astyx> !ubuntu
[10:40] <ouyes> moetunes, man I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:40] <mikeru> Astyx: I don't hate Mac OS X. I however also like ubuntu, and while you may say so, macbooks have very good hardware (there's never some weird companie's hardware inside), and like it or not, their design pretty much beats any other computer.
[10:40] <ruif13> anyone have installed wso2 php framework in ubuntu?
[10:40] <moetunes> Synyster: you need to use sudo for mount
[10:40] <maelaian> Anyone know what might cause this? Upgraded a fresh 9.10 to 10.04. Logging into my user gets just the background image for gnome and failsafe after reboot.
[10:40] <ouyes> moetunes, it seems it is removing a lot of packages of my system
[10:40] <Jordan_U> Titan_: I assume that you manually edited your grub.cfg or /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ?
[10:40] <aspidites> does anyone know what the requisite packages are to get gstreamer to work with phonon?
[10:40] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, doesn't list it other than on the about:plugins page...hahahaha....insane. I'm going to try to install flash 10 one more time just for good measure
[10:40] <moetunes> ouyes: it should be installing stuff...
[10:41] <Synyster> moetunes: i did gksudo nautilus, and my DVD drive doesn't show up
[10:41] <aspidites> i have all gstreamer0.10-plugins-* packages installed
[10:41] <Astyx> mikeru, since intel macs, there is the same crappy/good hardware as in dell Pcs/Lapps for example
[10:41] <Jordan_U> Titan_: There is an open quote with no close quote on line 197
[10:41] <aspidites> the problem is that I get an error saying "gstreamer0.10-plugins-good isn't installed when it is. also qtconfig's phonon page is just greyed out
[10:41] <Kebap23> hey all, i just came back to my ubuntu 10.04 which i left running yesterday. now i can move the mouse cursor, but whenever i click somewhere, it does not react at all. it does react to keyboard however. whats wrong?
[10:41] <moetunes> Synyster: in terminal type   groups   is your user in the cdrom group?
[10:42] <Synyster> yes
[10:42] <Titan_> Jordan_U: i edited /20_memtest86+ to not show console
[10:43] <moetunes> Synyster: anything in the drive?
[10:43] <Synyster> yep
[10:43] <akaustav> Hi. Does Ubuntu 9.10 use GRUB 2.0?
[10:43] <hmw> akaustav: yes
[10:43] <Jordan_U> Titan_: Could you pastebin your /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+?
[10:44] <abid> Why would a laptop freeze at desktop with fresh install 10.04? could it be to do with video card support or is it a badly installed os?
[10:44] <akaustav> I have a small problem. I recently installed WinXP in my system. And Grub is gone.
[10:44] <mikeru> Astyx: Well...  it's design is much better anyways. however, couldn't agree with you more that since they went intel their hardware is pretty much the same. I just can't believe my macmini had an ATI discrete card and costed ~$500 and the new ones use builtin sh*t from Intel (and more recently Nvidia, but it's still integrated) and have their price bumped up to ~$900
[10:44] <save> hola
[10:44] <mikeru> Astyx: (that mac mini was powerpc)
[10:44] <abid> akaustav: winXP doesn't do well with grub
[10:44] <mikeru> !hi | save
[10:44] <akaustav> Can anyone help me restore Grub 2.0 in my system?
[10:44] <mikeru> save: habla en ingles
[10:44] <blaha> hmw: added application/x-httpd-php for php in the mime editor, but it still downloads index.php
[10:45] <Titan_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/niamcVg9
[10:45] <hmw> blaha: ok, moment
[10:45] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd / ikonia: okay...now there is no flash plugin mention @ about:plugins... synaptic lists abobe-flashplugin as being installed....(10) or at least it lists the package that installs it as being installed....not usre if there would be a difference
[10:45] <meatbun> how to tell the network manager not to jump on 2nd wifi automatically, when 1st wifi dies
[10:45] <mochacocha> *sure
[10:45] <ouyes> moetunes, it stops 100K ........
[10:46] <mochacocha> but other than adobe-flashplugin I don't see anything else in synaptic under flash as being installed
[10:46] <akaustav> abid: It used to work before. I had WinXP and Ubuntu 9.10 on my system. It is just that I had to reinstall WinXP.
[10:46] <hmw> blaha: did you restart apache?
[10:46] <mochacocha> so there might be some issue there
[10:46] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: how did you do it?
[10:46] <arunkumar413> where do i get the documentation about gcc libraries and inbuilt functions
[10:46] <pixolin> Hi, does anyone here know which wallpaper Ubuntu Easy Peasy for netbooks uses and where I can find that?
[10:46] <ouyes> moetunes, 0K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  1% 20.7K 3m8s but stop at 100K
[10:46] <blaha> hmw: looking through webmin to restart apache
[10:47] <abid> akaustav: last you probably had xp to begin with and then installed ubuntu on a separate partition using ubuntu livecd, the livecd took care of everything
[10:47] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, I have the deb package from the adobe site, and used 'sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb' in the term
[10:47] <hmw> blaha: i recommend using the ssh terminal
[10:47] <akaustav> abid: Yes
[10:47] <blaha> hmw: what's the command?
[10:48] <Jordan_U> Titan_: Uncomment the EOF
[10:48] <mikeru> blaha: ssh? ssh
[10:48] <Effit> Hey. I'm running Lucid, and it has a habit of randomly logging me off with no prompt, warning, or visible keystroke. Any idea what's going on?
[10:48] <moetunes> ouyes: I know nothing about that sorry
[10:48] <abid> akaustav: i just did a quick google search try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:48] <Igramul> Effit, does it shut down or just log you off?
[10:48] <Beyecixramd> Effit: Jaunty did that in my friend's computer...
[10:48] <moetunes> ouyes: have you run   sudo apt-get update   lately?
[10:48] <Effit> Only logs off.
[10:48] <ouyes> yes
[10:48] <ouyes> moetunes, yes
[10:48] <moetunes> k
[10:48] <Beyecixramd> Igramul: like if you press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[10:49] <akaustav> abid: Thanks.
[10:49] <Beyecixramd> Effit: faulty hardware / BIOS / ACPI implementation, i guess...
[10:49] <Igramul> Effit, check the X server logs
[10:49] <blaha> mikeru: I've used ssh, but I don't know how to determine the address of my apache server
[10:49] <Effit> Real noob here. Got instructions?
[10:50] <bogor> I have freshely installed ubuntu 10.04 and update is running fine. I am able to browse but unable to ping. What could be the problem
[10:50] <Titan_> Jordan_U: okay done
[10:50] <hmw> blaha: http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html   section 11
[10:50] <mikeru> blaha: so, you don't know your server's IP address? (and as for restarting apache from the terminal, I think sudo initctl restart apache does it)
[10:50] <Igramul> Effit, check for error messages in the files /var/log/Xorg.?.log
[10:51] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, the last output from that command was ' Setting up adobe-flashplugin (10.0.45.2-1) ... ' and it went back to prompt, so I just assumed everything installed fine
[10:51] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: hmmmm
[10:51] <mochacocha> it's pretty confusing
[10:51] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: and then what, did you remove flash?
[10:51] <mikeru> blaha: maybe apache2 or httpd instead of apache
[10:51] <hmw> blaha: the http.conf might be in a differetn location on Ubuntu. look at /etc/apache/something
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Titan_: "sudo update-grub" and all should be good. By the way, when you make manual changes you can check the syntax of the grub.cfg without rebooting by using "grub-script-check"
[10:52] <Effit> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[10:52] <Effit> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[10:52] <Effit> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[10:52] <Igramul> Effit, do not copy-paste it to this channel.
[10:52] <Effit> Right.
[10:52] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, well, this was just now. but I did a remove as described here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html ....that didn't seem to work, fast forward a bit, I finally got mozilla to say flash was not installed.... so I went to install 10 again, didn't see any errors, but still not flash installed
[10:53] <jjnorth> Effit: http://pastebin.org
[10:53] <Beyecixramd> weird, mochacocha
[10:53] <mochacocha> very, Beyecixramd
[10:53] <thailand_> ใครว่างอะ
[10:53] <thailand_> ไทย
[10:53] <FloodBot1> thailand_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <Beyecixramd> thailand_: english only please thanks
[10:53] <thailand_> ok
[10:53] <Effit> http://pastebin.org/270576
[10:54] <Effit> this is the only instance of 'error' in the document
[10:54] <mikeru> thailand_: and speak in english. you'll be much happier with the results
[10:54] <MACscr_lappy> i have a drive that i would like to share on my home lan and not require any logins. I want users to be able to edit/create files, etc
[10:54] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, I'm wondering if the deb package is corrupted and it's just slipping by.
[10:54] <meatbun> how to tell the network manager not to jump on 2nd wifi automatically, when 1st wifi dies
[10:55] <jjnorth> Right, off to bed.  Night.
[10:55] <MACscr_lappy> im not really sure what the "guest" access is within the sharing options
[10:55] <rabbit1> how to kill vlc player?
[10:55] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: with binaries/closed source software, you never know
[10:55] <Effit> rabbit1: Force quit?
[10:55] <Beyecixramd> rabbit1: killall vlc?
[10:55] <MACscr_lappy> rabbit1: sudo pkill vlc?
[10:55] <Beyecixramd> lol...
[10:55] <rabbit1> yeap, thx
[10:55] <hmw> blaha: i just installed apache on a fresh ubuntu: It worked with installing the apt-get stuff (from my pastebin cheatsheed), then adding that AddType line and restarting apache.
[10:55] <rabbit1> sometimes, even if i close, songs keep playing :(
[10:56] <maxlinx> ciao
[10:56] <maxlinx> !list
[10:56] <mochacocha> Beyecixramd, certainly seems the right size, eh...well, I think for now I'll just remove 10 and go back to 9 until I read upon this a bit more, thanks for your help
[10:56] <maxlinx> ciao
[10:56] <maxlinx> !list
[10:56] <rpattabi> Help: gwibber doesn't fetch tweets though it gets private tweets correctly [lucid].
[10:56] <akaustav> abid: I have completed the steps. I'll reboot my system and verify if Grub has been restored.
[10:56] <Beyecixramd> mochacocha: no prob :)
[10:57] <mochacocha> =) take care
[10:57] <Titan_> Jordan_U: how long does running the script-check take?
[10:57] <akaustav> abid: I'll be back if I encounter any problems. Thanks.
[10:57] <OttifantSir> Does the alternate installer of 10.04 have the possibility to make LVM-groups? Got an old machine with two drives, and I wish to use most of one, and all of the other for /home
[10:59] <Jordan_U> Titan_: It's almost instant, but you need to provide a filename (or else it will assume that the script contents are coming from stdin, the keyboard). "sudo grub-script-check /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[10:59] <Titan_> ohh ok thanx
[10:59] <rpattabi> @OttifantSir I could install ubuntu on lvm using 'alternate' CD. But it doesn't have prebuilt lvm gui.
[10:59] <Jordan_U> Titan_: You're welcome.
[11:00] <prodigel> Hi all. I have a broken 2GB RAM dim that I just bought for my laptop and I would like to install badram or badmem or another patch to remove the damaged areas from usage. Any idea how could I do this on ubuntu 10.4? I've seen some patches for older kernel versions, that I cannot install on 10.4.
[11:00] <asprofridis> Hi , I am trying to installa grub via live cd  ( root hd(1,0) setup (hd1) end I get Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition here is the fdsik -l http://pastebin.com/WUfjYdyU
[11:00] <mindburst> hi all, anyone know if there is a mythbuntu or is this the place for help if i get any
[11:01] <OttifantSir> rpattabi: What do you mean by that? That the partitioner doesn't have the option of creating an LVM-group? I have to make it first, THEN install with the alternate installer?
[11:01] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | asprofridis
[11:01] <Titan_> Jordan_U: i keep getting      syntax error; incorrect command
[11:01] <OttifantSir> mindburst: It's #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:02] <Jordan_U> Titan_: Could you pastebin your grub.cfg and /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ again?
[11:02] <mindburst> thanks for the help guys
[11:02] <rpattabi> @OttifantSir I already had the lvm partitions done using different ubuntu installation. the partitioner does understand lvm; but not sure if you can create lvms while installation. I haven't tried it that way.
[11:03] <Jordan_U> prodigel: You can use badram from grub2, which passes the information on to the kernel. The syntax for specifying bad blocks is exactly the same as with the linux kernel parameter.
[11:03] <ouyes> how can get hardware decoding support when playing a video in smplayer?
[11:04] <ouyes> I have a ati rad VGA
[11:04] <OttifantSir> rpattabi: I asked because I thought I recalled a guide online that said you could if you didn't just "go with the flow" of the alternate installer for an older version of Ubuntu. If you cancelled or made a choice, you could make an LVM-group upon installation,
[11:04] <prodigel> Jordan_U, I saw that. But is badram included in the current kernel releases by default, or I need to patch/compile it?
[11:05] <MACscr_lappy> is there any type of plugin that would add a symlink option to the right click menu in the file managers?
[11:05] <Jordan_U> prodigel: I don't think that grub2's badram depends on any kernel patches.
[11:05] <asprofridis> Jordan_U when I tried grub 2 i get GRUB failed to install to the following devices:   /dev/sdb
[11:06] <Titan_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/97ZyinsP            http://pastebin.com/wN8NtNj7
[11:07] <rpattabi> m.. okay. I should have tried it. I went through tough time installing ubuntu with usual cd on lvm.
[11:07] <costre> ouyes, vdpau (nvidia hardware support) is supported by smplayer, don't know about ati's cards
[11:07] <ouyes> costre, thanks anyway
[11:08] <rpattabi> Any help? gwibber doesn't fetch tweets though it gets private tweets correctly [lucid].
[11:09] <Jordan_U> Titan_: I don't see anything wrong, so try booting anyway.
[11:09] <Titan_> okay thanx
[11:09] <the_file> OW MAN I NEED HELP WITH WHINE
[11:09] <Jordan_U> Titan_: You're welcome.
[11:09] <Jordan_U> !caps | the_file
[11:09] <the_file> I have installed winrar under whine, and mounted a cd with a rar file, but can't find the cd in whine!
[11:09] <the_file> and Im on puppy linux =)
[11:10] <the_file> ubottu: sorry
[11:10] <Jordan_U> the_file: This is #ubuntu, not #puppy
[11:10] <the_file> but whine is whine
[11:10] <llutz> the_file: its named "wine", puppy isn't supported here, try  /j #winehq
[11:10] <abid> the_file: don't you mean wine
[11:10]  * hmw smells troll flesh
[11:11] <the_file> I **DO** have the same issue on my ubuntu install, its why IAM tryint to use PUPPY
[11:11] <the_file> but same problem, can find the cd
[11:11] <the_file> in whine
[11:11] <hmw> the_file: you dont need winrar, use "unrar" in Ubuntu
[11:11] <Titan> Jordan_U: before i rebooted i ran an update-grub and got this
[11:11] <Titan> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic
[11:11] <Titan> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic
[11:11] <Titan> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[11:11] <Titan> /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+: 37: EOF: not found
[11:11] <FloodBot1> Titan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <llutz> Titan_: comment out line 37
[11:13] <Tobiaswk> Hello, I've run into a weird problem... I have no options in GDM -- that is, no matter what I do no options appear
[11:13] <llutz> Titan_: #<< EOF          it is the end of a not needed here-statement
[11:14] <llutz> Titan_: sorry line 36 (#EOF)
[11:15] <Titan_> http://pastebin.com/97wz1wFd
[11:15] <Titan_> oh ok
[11:16] <Euthanatos> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:16] <Micc_> How can I resize an NTFS windows 7 partition with 30GB of free space from ubuntu 10.04?
[11:16] <hayanbom0> hey guys, Does android 2.4 run iphone apps?
[11:16] <Tobiaswk> No one tried the weird situation where GDM displays no options for choosing session or anything... only login is there
[11:18] <Euthanatos> why is bluetooth dominating my audio caqrds when i have no bluetooth?
[11:18] <Jordan_U> Tobiaswk: It's a per user setting, so the settings only show up once you've selected a user.
[11:18] <Tobiaswk> No, it does not show uo for me
[11:18] <buenol> can i run android app on my ubuntu
[11:18] <buenol> ?
[11:18] <Tobiaswk> Jordan_U: it does not matter if I select my user
[11:19] <OttifantSir> Does anyone know why ffmpeg2theora only converts the last file in a folder, renaming it to the first file of the folder when I issue the command ffmpeg2theora * ?
[11:19] <ruif13> hi again, when i try to do a remote desktop from windows the ubuntu doesnt refresh the desktop anyone can help?
[11:20] <Jordan_U> buenol: Yes, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Run-Android-Applications-on-Ubuntu-115152.shtml
[11:20] <llutz> OttifantSir: you need to hide the * from the shell.  like "for vid in *; do ffmpeg2theora someoptions $vid;done"
[11:21] <Titan_> thank u Jordan_U and llutz my problem is fixed
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Titan_: You're welcome.
[11:22] <buenol> Jordan_U, thanks
[11:22] <OttifantSir> llutz: Have a shell-script that says something similar, so I tried copying and pasting that command into a terminal, and all I was a >
[11:22] <Jordan_U> buenol: You're welcome.
[11:23] <Micc_> I just installed kde disk manager but I'm in gnome. where can I find it? Or do I have to be in KDE?
[11:23] <llutz> OttifantSir: so you're missing some parts, command is incomplete
[11:23] <Euthanatos> why is bluetooth hijacking my audio cards when i have no bluetooth?
[11:24] <OttifantSir> llutz: I had this: for file in "$1"/*; do ffmpeg2theora -v 10 -a 10 "$file"
[11:24] <unop> OttifantSir, you're missing a ; done at the end
[11:24] <llutz> OttifantSir: at least ";done" is missing and if you just run this, it won't find $1
[11:25] <llutz> OttifantSir: that has to be a script called with a path
[11:26] <llutz>  OttifantSir or change it like this:           for file in mypath/*; do ffmpeg2theora -v 10 -a 10 "$file";done
[11:26] <Titan_> quick question would windows be menu entry 4 or 5    http://pastebin.com/qFQM3fPL
[11:27] <Euthanatos> what is EOL?
[11:27] <OttifantSir> unop and llutz: Thanks. So, I should do that with ~/folder-to-be-converted? Or if I issue the command within the folder, I should take out ..... the / ?
[11:27] <llutz> OttifantSir: where "mypath/"    is the path to your videos
[11:27] <red2kic> Euthanatos: End of Life. :(
[11:27] <llutz> Euthanatos: end of line
[11:28] <Euthanatos> ugh....that's the only one i ever got to work without problem
[11:28] <unop> OttifantSir, you can do this.  cd ~/folder-to-be-converted; for file in *; do ffmpeg2theora -v 10 -a 10 "$file"; done
[11:28] <unop> OttifantSir, so yea, you change the glob to remove the directory part when you are in the directory  dir/*  becomes *
[11:30] <OttifantSir> unop and llutz: Thanks for the help. At least now it started with the first file in the folder. Will be a while before I see if the rest works, but looks promising. But why wouldn't a simple ffmpeg2theora * convert them all?
[11:31] <llutz> OttifantSir: that app needs a single filename to work with
[11:32] <llutz> OttifantSir: not a list of files as * gives  (check with "echo *")
[11:32] <red2kic> I see! So that command can only have one parameter! Not multiple parameters! Clever! :3
[11:33] <Titan_> http://pastebin.com/qFQM3fPL
[11:33] <Titan_> would windows be menuentry 3 or 4
[11:33] <unop> OttifantSir, depends on the application --  "ffmpeg2theora *"  is expanded by the shell to a command such as " ffmpeg2theora file1 file2 file3 file4..."  before being passed to ffmpeg2theora - and it sees each of these potential arguments - in this case, too many
[11:33] <hengi> hali
[11:33] <hengi> socat beállításában vki tud segíteni?
[11:33] <hengi> lami vok hozzá :D
[11:34] <ouyes> the process stop at Connecting to archive.canonical.com|91.189.88.33|:80...  what I can do?
[11:34] <OttifantSir> llutz: OK, thanks for the clarification. I read the man-page, but it didn't say anything I understood as having to issue only one file. The "cat something.dv | ffmpeg2theora [option] dv" could possibly be taken as meaning "Issue one filename only to ffmpeg2theora"
[11:35] <OttifantSir> unop: And the same thanks to you. Always fun to learn something new
[11:35] <Oprtz> hi there, i want to install mac OS type doc on desktop, can i do it in ubuntu 10.04?
[11:35] <Ahox> Hi, I am looking for some software that lets me run software on a set of remote computers by selecting the one with the least load. I looked into mosix, but this is overkill and I need specialized kernels
[11:35] <ouyes> what is host + f in virtual machine which is host?
[11:35] <Ahox> sry, and it needs specialized kernels
[11:35] <red2kic> ouyes: Stay tight. I suppose. Be patient.
[11:35] <OttifantSir> Oprtz:  I use Avant Window Navigator and love it. I know there are also Cairo Dock, Gnome Do and Docky that does pretty much the same
[11:36] <staminna> hey guys, anyone can link me to the php 5.2 .deb package?
[11:36] <Oprtz> OttifantSir:  how to install avant from terminal ?
[11:36] <OttifantSir> ouyes: By default, host in VirtualBox is RightCtrl
[11:37] <OttifantSir> Optrz: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator (this may be for PPA) or sudo apt-get install awn
[11:37] <tdn> I am trying to compile a program, but the configure tells me: configure: error: either RANDR, VidMode or WinGDI must be enabled        How do I enable RANDR or VidMode?
[11:38] <Oprtz> thanks
[11:38] <euthymos> Hi, I've changed user password, but samba password didn't change accordingly
[11:38] <llutz> euthymos: use smbpasswd
[11:39] <tdn> If I type xrandr at the console, I get a list of resolutions, so xrandr should be enabled, right?
[11:39] <euthymos> llutz: THANK - YOU :D :D !
[11:42] <OttifantSir> tdn: I usually don't compile programs, but this is something that should be described how to do in README or similar-named file. For VLC I believe it's something like configure enable --option. You really need to supply the name of the program you're trying to compile for more help, and this is the extent of my knowledge: It needs to be enbled for the program you're compiling, not just running on your system
[11:43] <trungie> Can someone help me with my DVR problem with Ubuntu? My DVR works with another linux distro, but with Ubuntu i get nothing!
[11:43] <trungie> I don't know where to look or how to diagnose this
[11:44] <tdn> OttifantSir, I have read README and INSTALL. They do not mention this. However, I tried ./configure --help, this tells me about these options: --enable-randr --enable-vidmode,. I have tried those, but I get an error like this: configure: error: missing dependencies for RANDR method
[11:46] <ouyes> how to find out how many slots are used for memory card, for example you have 2 slots for memory card and you have one 2gb card insert in one slot, so you have one left, can you find if you have one left via software information?
[11:46] <hengi> can anyone help me in udp forward with socat?
[11:46] <zetheroo> it seems to me that applets in the notification area of the panel struggle to got get all messed up or not show at all ... :P
[11:48] <costre> zetheroo, Use "lock to panel"?
[11:48] <OttifantSir> tdn: My thought is that you need to find the dev-files for randr. As I've said, I don't have much experience, and even less knowledge, but the ones I've compiled needed for example gstreamer-0.10-dev to compile
[11:48] <iflema> ouyes in a terminal     sudo lshw -C memory
[11:49] <zetheroo> costre: did that already
[11:49] <tdn> OttifantSir, ok. Thanks.
[11:49] <MACscr_lappy> so compiz is used by default on ubuntu, right? so when looking for new themes, should i be looking for compiz themes or gnome themes?
[11:50] <ouyes> iflema, thank you
[11:50] <mrsun> ffs, sound has been nothing but problem for me in ubuntu so far
[11:50]  * iflema :)
[11:50] <mrsun> tried esound ... no go, alsa well some apps work some doesnt
[11:50] <red2kic> MACscr_lappy: Look for GTK2 Themes. Compiz have nothing to do with themes.
[11:50] <red2kic> !compiz | MACscr_lappy
[11:50] <mrsun> pulseaudio ... some apps work some doesnt
[11:50] <OttifantSir> MACscr_lappy: Gnome themes. Compiz is effects, not looks.
[11:51] <mrsun> now using pulse i dont even get a "hardware device" to attach it to :/
[11:51] <trungie> can anyone help me with getting my webcam to work on ubuntu? it just keeps saying device busy for some reason
[11:51] <tdn> OttifantSir, thanks!
[11:51] <mrsun> nothing shows up under the hardware tab
[11:52] <OttifantSir> tdn: Guessing it worked? A good feeling knowing you helped someone, even if you're not an expert ;)
[11:52] <mrsun> the hell of linux
[11:52] <tdn> OttifantSir, it worked.
[11:52] <mrsun> why not have one unified sound syste m?
[11:52] <mrsun> nooo ... lets all make our own
[11:53] <jellow> For some reason i have to manualy run "modprobe ath5k" how can i mak it run at boot?
[11:53] <DjAngo23> Hello everuone help me install songbird
[11:53] <ouyes> I get the windows xp installed under ubuntu . thank you all
[11:54] <DjAngo23> i add the ppa, and update, but it says when i install, that he : E: Couldn't find package songbird
[11:54] <MACscr_lappy> what is the beryl emerald theme manager? im seeing a lot of themes require that
[11:54] <OttifantSir> mrsun: Why not have ONE car model for the whole world? 95% of the world only need a sedan anyway.
[11:54] <red2kic> jellow: I think you place them in /etc/modules.
[11:54] <mrsun> OttifantSir, well ... linux is the car model ... everything else is the interfaces in it ... and making 200 different that isnt totaly compatible with eachother is totaly stupid
[11:55] <red2kic> !emerald | MACscr_lappy
[11:55] <jellow> red2kic: ok i'll reboot , thanks
[11:55] <teolicy> Hi. Ever since I connected a second monitor to my laptop, videos don't play (in vlc or mplayer), other than in mplayer's '-vo x11' output option, and VirtualBox's graphics turned sluggish.
[11:56] <red2kic> jellow: Let me know. :3
[11:56] <unop> mrsun, I don't like your ford, I want a volkswagen
[11:56] <MACscr_lappy> red2kic: thanks. I wonder why people are still developing themes wiht it then.
[11:56] <mrsun> look at windows for instance, are people ever having problems with sound there more then when its driver related?
[11:56] <DjAngo23> Anyone any idea how to install SongBird, because i add the ppa, did the  update, but when trying to get the packages : E: Couldn't find package songbird ??
[11:56] <mrsun> in linux it can be driver related, permission related, soundsystem related, application related due to incompatible soundsystems
[11:56] <teolicy> I guess something broke down with acceleration, or maybe my laptop's GPU is just too weak (it's a weakling Intel 945GME). Any suggestions?
[11:56] <ouyes>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:56] <red2kic> MACscr_lappy: Because you can still use the obsolete packages.
[11:56] <ouyes> but there is none
[11:57] <BlessJah> DjAngo23: try to find that package using synaptic, maybe it has different name?
[11:57] <red2kic> DjAngo23: Songbird are not supported in linux anymore. It have been removed from the repo.
[11:57] <DjAngo23> BlessJah: You mean Ubuntu software cente r?
[11:57] <mrsun> and just think of it what a great system all of these brilliant minds out there could put together if they only worked together ...
[11:58] <red2kic> DjAngo23: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2010/04/02/songbird-singing-a-new-tune/
[11:58] <red2kic> DjAngo23: It does not mean you can't use it though. :<
[11:58] <OttifantSir> ouyes: Are you sure? I know some programs sometimes take a while to really quit. look in gnome-system-monitor for apt or synaptic or software-center
[11:58] <DjAngo23> red2kic: Okay, i only want sonbird to erase all my duplicates. Do you know another way ?
[11:58] <BlessJah> DjAngo23: synaptic is better
[11:58] <avis> DjAngo23, fslint in the repo, search for duplicates, select all but oldest, delete
[11:58] <red2kic> DjAngo23: I don't listen to music. :3
[11:59] <DjAngo23> avis: How do you selecte the aoldest ?
[11:59] <DjAngo23> I only have select with wildcards
[11:59] <avis> its a button in the lower right right click and select
[12:00] <ip3t3r> hi.. i've a problem with my wusb54gc v3
[12:00] <avis> and just point to your music dir home dir is not necessary
[12:00] <ip3t3r> it's a linksys wireless usb adapter
[12:00] <DjAngo23> "Whtihin groups" i didn't see that one, thanks
[12:00] <ip3t3r> i've lucid lynx 32bit
[12:01] <ip3t3r> i've add blacklist rt2x00usb, blacklist rt2x00lib  and blacklist rt2800usb at the end of balcklist.conf
[12:01] <mrsun> gaah freakin hell
[12:01] <mrsun> i get sound working in one app but not others
[12:01] <mrsun> etc
[12:01] <ip3t3r> it scan the network, but it doesn't connet
[12:01] <omfarka> do you recommend any app to remind appointment, birthday like calendar
[12:01] <mrsun> have to change between "padsp" and "alsa" and "pulseadio" to get stuff working together
[12:02] <mrsun> this is just retarded :/
[12:02] <moetunes> mrsun: alot of ppl remove pulse to avoid that
[12:02] <mrsun> moetunes, then it doesnt work in other places
[12:03] <mrsun> and the ubuntu sound preferences app is freakin bound to pulse .... great job...
[12:03] <moetunes> pulse is a pita
[12:03] <ip3t3r> hi.. i've a problem with my linksys usb wireless adapter : wusb54gc v3
[12:03] <ip3t3r> i've lucid lynx installed
[12:04] <TravelerInTime> why if i decode a 128 Kbps mp3 to uncompressed WAV and then back to mp3 then the quality will degrate slightly?
[12:04] <ip3t3r> i've add blacklist rt2x00usb, blacklist rt2x00lib  and blacklist rt2800usb at the end of balcklist.conf. it scan the network, but it doesn't connet
[12:06] <red2kic> ip3t3r: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446889
[12:07] <prodigel> Jordan_U, I don't remember exactly if you suggested grub2 for badram or not, I figured that if you are that person, maybe you know what addr1,mask1[addr2,mask2] exactly means. Also I don't know where in the booting commands list to insert my badram command. Thanks
[12:07] <ip3t3r> red2kic, it's refers to 2.6.31.* kernel
[12:07] <ip3t3r> red2kic, i've lucid installed,, with 2.6.32.*
[12:08] <ionut> hi.which is the command to realocate an ip for my computer ? (i am root)
[12:08] <llutz> ionut: sudo dhclient ethX
[12:09] <ionut> llutz: will release a new ip?
[12:09] <red2kic> ip3t3r: It does not matter. The bug is still open. Install linux-backports-modules-wireless-generic and reboot. Come back and report your progress.
[12:10] <llutz> ionut: it will do a new dhcp-request
[12:10] <jarrod_007> My 10.4 installation does not wake up from sleep or hibernation. I am using a microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse. do I need to install any special drivers?
[12:10] <red2kic> ionut: How are you checking your IP? ifconfig or whatismyip?
[12:10] <YezYez> how can I add a file to the xinetd.conf file?
[12:10] <ionut> llutz
[12:10] <ionut> red2kic: ifconfig /all
[12:11] <costre> jarrod_007, bluetooth?
[12:11] <red2kic> ionut: Oh okay. Just wanted to make sure you're not trying to get a different IP from ISP.
[12:11] <llutz> ionut: /all? should give you an error
[12:12] <ionut> llutz: it works
[12:12] <prodigel> I'm trying to configure grub2 to ignore certain broken memory addresses. I can't find any example about how to use it, except this usage code: badram ADDR1,MASK1[ADDR2,MASK2[,...]]. I don't know what format/information ADDRx,MASKx shoud be. Any ideas?
[12:12] <jarrod_007> costre: no, proprietary connection. I have disabled bluetooth, if that makes a difference.
[12:12] <t4m1n0_> Hello there. I was hoping someone will help me out. During the upgrade from 8.04 to 10.4 I got flashplugin-nonfree error. Now when I try to install a certaion package. I get this error: you might want to run apt-get -f install I do this and I get another error: dpkg error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--remove) package is in very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting removal. E: suprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (
[12:12] <ionut> llutz: i am having errors with my torrent downloader , it sayes that i am disabled 29 minutes
[12:12] <red2kic> llutz: It must be a Windows disguised as a clean, security, and stability machine! :3
[12:12] <leagris> ionut, dhclient normally will issue a DHCP RELEASE uppon interface shutdown but, that won't ensure the DHCP server will issue a different IP. If you are behind your cable/dsl cable modem router, chances are you will keep the same IP. If you really need a new LAN IP and have some admin rights on the router, you should look into either choosing a static LAN IP from a non-dhcp range, or configuring a static lease on the router based on your host
[12:12] <leagris>  MAC address.
[12:13] <gizero> How do I fix the background color of the notifcation area, so that it doesn't look like this? http://img22.imageshack.us/i/notificationarea.png/
[12:13] <raddy> Hello everybody
[12:13] <costre> jarrod_007, I have a wireless keyboard+mouse on usb, it works even during bootup :)
[12:13] <costre> also not bluetooth
[12:14] <ionut> leagris: you are right. i just wanted to try it. my ip is the same (after a new release) because my provider gives my all the time the same ip
[12:14] <Jordan_U> prodigel: You can get the error patterns from memtest86+ by pressing 'c' for configuration then '4' for error report mode, then '3' for "BadRAM Patterns"
[12:14] <raddy> I have left my home partition intact while upgradiing to 10.04 from 9.04
[12:14] <jarrod_007> costre, yea I am not having any problems with the keyboard+mouse per se. I just cannot wake the computer up after I put it to sleep or hibernate. I just assumed it was related to the keyboard/mouse
[12:14] <raddy> Now whenever i login to my user, the window manager is not loading.
[12:15] <ionut> guys i know that is a stupid questions. but which is the purpose of the gateway number ?
[12:15] <Jimmio1> What's the default PDF reader installed in Ubuntu by default? I want to see if there's a Windows port, as it's much faster than Adobe's Acrobat.
[12:15] <BlessJah> does someone have experience in administrating computers (10-50) under ubuntu in school? i'm going to install ubuntu in classroom and i need someone to brainstorm
[12:15] <iceroot> Jimmio1: evince imo
[12:15] <raddy> Everytime i am manually going to Desktop Effects and enabling it.
[12:15] <red2kic> gizero: You might get lucky with some GIMP hacks. Look for the particular packages that you installed. dpkg -L $PACKAGE -- Find out where those images sit in. GIMP and change the background to transparency/alpha.
[12:15] <ubuntujenkins> can anyone tell me how to find the right info to write a udev rule for my headset?
[12:15] <raddy> Then only WM comes up.
[12:15] <raddy> Can anybody tell me what could be the reason?
[12:15] <prodigel> Jordan_U, Thanks! I'll check it out.
[12:16] <llutz> ionut: its the ip-address of your gateway, most likely your router (gateway between local-net and WAN)
[12:16] <raddy> It happens only for that particular user.
[12:16] <Jordan_U> prodigel: You're welcome.
[12:16] <costre> jarrod_007, Try to connect some old ps2keyboard and see what happens
[12:16] <raddy> Please help me.
[12:16] <red2kic> Jimmio1: evince (name of PDF reader)
[12:16] <ionut> llutz: so is like a "bridge" between the intranet and internet?
[12:17] <llutz> ionut: sort of
[12:17] <gizero> red2kic, ok, thank you
[12:17] <ionut> llutz: is wrong or is ... ok?
[12:17] <pallgone> raddy: reinstall compiz?
[12:17] <ionut> llutz: i want to study a bit this things, on here
[12:18] <llutz> ionut: a network "bridge" is something different. a gateway connects two different networks
[12:18] <Jimmio1> Thanks all! Finally, fast PDF reading on Windows! ^^
[12:18] <jarrod_007> costre, yea I'll try that latter then come back if it still a problem. Thanks.
[12:18] <costre> jarrod_007, I always have a ps2 keyboard connected, just in case
[12:19] <ionut> llutz: exacly. thanks, now i know what is a gateway and also a bridge
[12:19]  * man8 , hola buenas, hi all
[12:19] <t4m1n0_> argh... how can I fix this?
[12:21] <leagris> ionut, just an advice. If your Ubuntu host is connected just behind your provider's modem to a bridged WAN IP address, you really should enable some minimum firewalling as some network services listening to 0.0.0.0 (all address) could be vulnerable and directly joinable from the wide internet.
[12:21] <BlessJah> i'm going to install ubuntu on 15 identical computers, whats the best way to do it, install and configure on one and then use dd image distributed over http?
[12:22] <BlessJah> will dd if=image.dd of=/dev/sda3 work properly (i will change UUID to devfile in fstab)
[12:23] <llutz> BlessJah: to speedup dd a bit, use bs=4k, but basically it should work
[12:23] <ionut> leagris: how can i see if i now have a firewall??
[12:23] <enzotib> BlessJah, dd will copy also UUID, so you don't need to change fstab
[12:23] <mikeru> hmw (if you're still there): used os x for a while, then tried to boot to ubuntu. this time, it worked. haven't changed anything. :)
[12:23] <glimpse_nirvana> anyone know how to restore the 60 second countdown to shutdown in 10.04
[12:24] <BlessJah> how can i later keep every single computer with identical settings, configs and apps? rsync? or again dd?
[12:24] <red2kic> BlessJah: remaster, maybe?
[12:24] <hmw> mikeru: well... if you dare, try rebooting 2 or 3 more times to be sure
[12:24] <leagris> ionut there are no firewall rules in default Ubnutu Desktop installation.
[12:24] <red2kic> !remaster | BlessJah
[12:24] <BlessJah> red2kic: i've got 15 computers, so clicking next, next,next gonna take too long
[12:24] <leagris> !firewall|ionut
[12:24] <red2kic> BlessJah: Make it the way you like it. Remaster it. Install on computers. Meh?
[12:24] <mikeru> hmw: I would, but it's 6:30 AM. after a long boring night with a cold, I really should have gone to sleep before
[12:25] <t4m1n0_> I'm trying to install or upgrade the system and I get info, you might want to run apt-get -f install to correct hese issues: AND HERE IS EMPTY. So I still run apt-get -f install and I get: the following extra packages will be installed flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree 1 upgraded 1 newls installed 0 to remove 0 to upgraded. Need to get 0B of 234B of archives. Do you want to contoune I type y. And I get reconfiguring packages... dpkg error processing
[12:25] <t4m1n0_> I'm confused I don't even have this package
[12:25] <t4m1n0_> and is talking about reinstalling
[12:25] <BlessJah> red2kic: i think installing on one computer, configuring and using dd image will be best way
[12:25] <t4m1n0_> can someone please help me out of this mess??
[12:26] <mengu> hi. is it possible to find out what is the current open window, programatically?
[12:26] <red2kic> BlessJah: There are many ways. Check !install for more possibilities.
[12:26] <ionut> leagris: if i want to enable it i make ufw enable
[12:26] <YezYez> How do i include a file to xinetd.conf?
[12:26] <mikeru> hmw: and i don't dare... for some reason, restarting and turning on and off (especially forcing it holding the power button) give me creeps
[12:26] <Mr`HyMaP> hello
[12:26] <ionut> leagris: i have an ipv6
[12:27] <glimpse_nirvana> anyone know how to restore the 60 second countdown to shutdown in 10.04
[12:27] <BlessJah> red2kic: !automate and !cloning should help
[12:27] <BlessJah> thanks a lot
[12:27] <red2kic> BlessJah: Good luck. :)
[12:28] <epinky> YezYez: isn't xinetd.d directory available?
[12:28] <t4m1n0_> Please someone?
[12:28] <BlessJah> red2kic: what gonna help me to keep every computer upgraded? rsync is good idea?
[12:28] <t4m1n0_> I'm stuck with CLI since X is also broke after upgrading and I also have these issues with flashplugin.... I can't even install different packafge :S
[12:28] <YezYez> epinky: yes it is...Every file i place in there will be executed at boot?
[12:28] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: I'll try. Pastebin your dpkg errors.
[12:29] <leagris> ionut, greate I does as well use IPv6 :) I don't know if ufw can manage IPv6 rules. I would have to investigate. You should have a look at the help page about firewalling though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:29] <ubuntunewbie> Hi , i plan to install lucid 10.04 but i saw a lot of grub2 problem with booting . I am worry it cause problem with the booting .
[12:29] <epinky> YezYez: no, it will execute if xinetd is on
[12:29] <YezYez> ok
[12:30] <YezYez> epinky: but doesn't xinetd normaly start when I boot a machine?
[12:30] <epinky> YezYez: it depends on your config, normally it does
[12:30] <hmw> if youre planning on a standard install without RAID (lvm), you should be fine with grub2. There are other issues, boot from the live CDand see, if you are happy
[12:30] <YezYez> ok tty, epinky
[12:30] <leagris> ionut, good default input policies is accept needed TCP/UDP ports from WAN IPs then drop anything else except syn related packets.
[12:30] <epinky> YezYez: np
[12:30] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: What grub2 problems? I know there are problems with lot of things.
[12:31] <ionut> leagris: my ufw is disabled
[12:32] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic: I had a multiboot window xp/7 and hardy 8.04 install.Now grub from 8.04 is install on top of window boot.
[12:32] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic: If I install lucid , will it mess up the booting ?
[12:33] <ionut> leagris: i read the page you gaved me about the iptables, but can u just say in two words, what iptables serves for?
[12:33] <mikeru> anyone here knows how to modify the sensitivity of apple touchpads? I have to use my whole finger for it to move, in mac os x i only have to use the tip of my finger
[12:33] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic: will I still be able to choose which os to boot ? having window 7 , xp , hardy ,
[12:33] <mikeru> and my magic mouse's battery is draining. very quickly
[12:33] <ubuntunewbie> thank you :)
[12:33] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: Best to assume it *can* mess up your boot. Make any necessary backups before you commit on the decision.
[12:33] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[12:33] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: here?
[12:33] <red2kic> !paste | t4m1n0_
[12:33] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic:what kind of backup ?
[12:34] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: exactly what command do you wish me to paste?
[12:34] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[12:34] <epinky> !iptables | ionut
[12:34] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: dpkg error messages after that command.
[12:34] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: ok
[12:34] <red2kic> !backup | ubuntunewbie
[12:34] <EvaLuaTe> I always get the keyboard layout indicator in my systray and don't know how to get rid of it. I tried everything, I searched google, I removed the romanian language with gconf, etc, but whenever i reboot, the language indicator starts up with both languages again. Any help would be appreciated...
[12:35] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic: ???? I mean what should I backup ? what kind of mess will it cause ?
[12:35] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: /home/ and /etc/ -- Your important stuffs. If you're unease, you might want to hold out. Until you're ready. I find having OSes on their own hard drives useful.
[12:35] <vak> my HDD S.M.A.R.T. reports errors :(
[12:35] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: http://pastebin.com/EGbUC1bW here
[12:36] <vak> how could I do a full hdd check in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[12:36] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic: i dont plan to upgrade ,I plan to install on other hard disk , a clean install.I just worry it will mess up the booting
[12:36] <hmw> ubuntunewbie: just boot from the live cd. if everything works fine, it is very probable, that your install will be fine, too
[12:36] <Italian_Plumber1> I'm getting an error during updates in lucid that says that packages can't be authenticated.  What can I do about this?  Is it a problem to install them anyway?
[12:36] <vak> Disk utility stops on first error, but I suspect there are more than 1
[12:36] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: Should that happen, you can come back and we'll supply you with !fixgrub factoid.
[12:36] <red2kic> !fixgrub | ubuntunewbie
[12:38] <vak> !smart
[12:38] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic : Thank you very much ^_^ , will install lucid 10.04 and hope everything works fine.IF I am having problem hope you guys can help out.
[12:39] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: It's useful to keep your important and personalized stuffs on separate hard drive.
[12:39] <friend4ubuntu> i heard there is problem setting up static ip in ubuntu
[12:39] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: looks bad ? :(
[12:39] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/429841
[12:39] <ftumch> vak: man badblocks. Personally I'd start with a bootable disk and do something like "badblocks -svn /dev/sdx". Be careful - badblocks with the w option will wipe the disk!
[12:40] <friend4ubuntu> how do i fsck at next boot
[12:40] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: "rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.prerm && dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq flashplugin-nonfree && dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq flashplugin-nonfree" should fix it, I hope.
[12:40] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic : I am having 2 hard disk . Hard disk (A) installed with XP and 8.04 , and hard disk (B) install with same XP and window 7.I plan to install Lucid on hard disk (B) with allocated 40GB. Worry it'll mess up the booting
[12:40] <vak> ftumch: ok, thx, man, gonna try it
[12:40] <red2kic> !fsck | friend4ubuntu
[12:41] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: Are you just wanting to test out Lucid? Use VirtualBox instead if you want that.
[12:41] <mkhanyisi> friend4ubuntu, you can do a "sudo touch /forcefsck" and then reboot normally
[12:42] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Yeah, bad. It affects 83 linux lovers. :)
[12:43] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic : I wanted it as main os , been using 8.04 ,way better than window 7 since I am using a low pc spec. works great. Virtualbox , I tested and install it before but I can run smooth , it lag since having only 2.0Ghz processor
[12:43] <friend4ubuntu> friend4ubuntu, you can do a "sudo touch /forcefsck" and then reboot normally what does this command do?
[12:43] <red2kic> friend4ubuntu: Create an empty file. It allows the fsck to acknowledge that a fsck was due.
[12:43] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: thanx :)
[12:43] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: do u have any ideas how can I fix the X :)
[12:44] <friend4ubuntu> ok
[12:44] <abid> hi all, i have a laptop freezing at desktop, how can i find out what's causing it?
[12:44] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I have intel 82865G and I'm not able to boot with x
[12:44] <lxsys_dv5k> just had a bit of an issue with my installation, I went to install console-tools and apt-get removed ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop. I don't want to do anything that would risk my installation, anybody know what I should do???
[12:44] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: if I add vesa in the device secetion I can't even switch to the monitor mode :S
[12:44] <friend4ubuntu> then what about how to find root partition fdisk -i?
[12:44] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: so Now I have a working ubuntu 10.4 Without X :\
[12:45] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I red this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes but it doesn't work for me
[12:45] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: Mmm. I only have one -- Lucid -- on my laptop. Things works well for me. However, I experienced a minor issue with grub2 installing to my usb installer instead of the hard drive. Nothing a LiveCD can't fix.
[12:45] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: in my case live cd won't do it since I can't login to x
[12:46] <red2kic> LSD|Ninja: ubuntu-minimal + ubuntu-desktop both are metapackages and can be removed safely. However, I'd leave ubuntu-minimal alone myself. It contains core packages that are important to ubuntu.
[12:46] <Synnyster> Good native IRC client?
[12:46] <red2kic> lxsys_dv5k: See above.
[12:47] <red2kic> Synnyster: xchat
[12:47] <lxsys> red2kic: thanks
[12:47] <kibibyte> i
[12:47] <kibibyte> hi
[12:47] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Do it from terminal?
[12:47] <abid> Synnyster: Xchat
[12:47] <kibibyte> i want install sun-jdk
[12:47] <red2kic> !java | kibibyte
[12:47] <Synnyster>  abid, red2kic, thanks
[12:47] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic : My booting is weird. Window xp is below window 7 , and window 7 is below grub 8.04.If I install what would happen on the booting for grub 2?
[12:48] <kibibyte> Sorry, 'sun-java6-jdk' is not available for this type of computer (i386).
[12:48] <kibibyte> :/
[12:48] <kibibyte> why is that
[12:48] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: I can't foretell anything. I like to keep things simple. ;3
[12:49] <DDAZZA> Every time I boot up ubuntu I have to toggle the appearence to make my title bars apear. Is there a fix to this?
[12:49] <Astyx> FREEZE!! Ha! You're busted, buddy! I'm a COP!
[12:49] <atim> Hello, is anyone here familiar with either SQL-Ledger or PostgreSQL?
[12:49] <red2kic> kibibyte: What package manager say that? "Sorry... thing"
[12:50] <Tesssa> help if possible i run "wine" in ubuntu i tried to install "Corel printhouse magic " it installs but try to use it it loads but comes to the draw window it comes up then shuts down Why? .It worked perfect in ubuntu 9.10
[12:50] <kibibyte> red2kic, ubuntu sotware center
[12:50] <kibibyte> i yesterday upgraded to 10.04
[12:50] <Tesssa> i am using ubuntu 10.4
[12:50] <abid> i have a laptop freezing at desktop, i want to find out exactly what is causing it. is there a software i can run to monitor my laptop's inner workings before it hangs.
[12:50] <red2kic> kibibyte: Check to see if partner repo is enabled first.
[12:50] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: do it from terminal?
[12:51] <epinky> !appdb | Tesssa
[12:51] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: I mean the LiveCD workaround (A).
[12:51] <ubuntunewbie> red2kic : :) , anyway will proceed installing lucid later. :-) , will report back
[12:51] <red2kic> ubuntunewbie: Good luck! ^_^
[12:51] <ubuntunewbie> thanks
[12:51] <mkhanyisi> DDAZZA, where do you toggle appearance?
[12:52] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I did add i915.modeset=1 to the grub beefore booting... No good
[12:52] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: except that  Ican switch to the monitor mode
[12:52] <kibibyte> red2kic, partner is disabled but it for karmic koala
[12:52] <hp00p> is there anyway to resize my current partition? cant unmount device but not enough space to install new ubuntu I have a 320GB hd how do I resize this partition please hlp
[12:52] <DDAZZA> mkhanyisi, system->appearance visual effects.
[12:53] <red2kic> kibibyte: If you're using Lucid, partner (and third parties) are disable during the upgrade. Fix the sources.list and enable them again.
[12:53] <epinky> !anyone | atim
[12:53] <Tesssa> but why does it work perfect in 9.10 but not in 10.4 what has altered
[12:53] <mkhanyisi> what are you toggling there, DDAZZA ?
[12:53] <ouyes> how to copy something into the disk of the virtual machine?
[12:53] <friend4ubuntu> hp00p: go 4 win 7 dvd
[12:53] <friend4ubuntu> or lucid cd u can resize it
[12:54] <hp00p> thx but I dont have any cd's with me im on vacation :/
[12:54] <red2kic> !gparted | hp00p
[12:54] <red2kic> hp00p: LiveUSB can work too. Assuming you have a USB nearby.
[12:54] <DDAZZA> mkhanyisi, between none and normal.
[12:54] <mkhanyisi> the boot splash does not show on startup. I am using grub legacy.
[12:54] <kibibyte> red2kic, where to get apt lines for this
[12:54] <hp00p> Im using gparted red2kic but it cant resize when its mounted
[12:54] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: What monitor mode? Which workaround are you using?
[12:54] <mkhanyisi> the boot splash does not show on startup. I am using grub legacy. how can i fix this. it shows up on shutdown by the way
[12:54] <harinder> harinder
[12:55] <red2kic> hp00p: You can't resize yourself (on a live system).
[12:55] <alualualu> hello
[12:55] <hp00p> hmm
[12:55] <mkhanyisi> DDAZZA, do you want to use compiz or not?
[12:55] <alualualu> i do came here previouly..any solution??
[12:55] <leagris> ionut, iptables is the low level shell command to manage firewall rules. Ufw is a wrapper application to manage these rules.
[12:55] <red2kic> hp00p: The hard drives need to be unmounted, hence the USB or CD.
[12:55] <friend4ubuntu> hp00p: use google dude
[12:55] <winterweaver> where is my postgres logs located in ubuntu?
[12:55] <hp00p> I use google all day.
[12:55] <friend4ubuntu> i think hiren boot cd is great tool
[12:55] <red2kic> winterweaver: /var/log/*
[12:55] <hp00p> Im stuck because I want to upgrade to ubuntu 10 but if I restart my comp will say no OS found.. the boot loader is screwed
[12:55] <DDAZZA> mkhanyisi, I don't mind I just want to have to toggle it everytime I wnat to use my computer.
[12:55] <hp00p> I cannot fix grub
[12:55] <winterweaver> red2kic, oh... cool thx
[12:55] <hp00p> says grub is not found
[12:56] <DDAZZA> mkhanyisi, *I don't want to toggle it everytime I want to use my computer
[12:56] <ftumch> Doing an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 killed my laptop :-( There's a forum about the problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471399 but I wondered if anyone knows if a bug's been raised yet
[12:56]  * ftumch will raise a bug if not
[12:56] <friend4ubuntu> come 2 my home i willgive u cd........lol
[12:56] <hp00p> killed it ?
[12:56] <mkhanyisi> DDAZZA, you can modify gnome-session-properties
[12:56] <ouyes> Unable to get exclusive lock
[12:56] <red2kic> hp00p: Get a LiveCD (somehow). There even are retail stores where you are.
[12:56] <friend4ubuntu> ya
[12:57] <hp00p> i guess thats the only way :(
[12:57] <mkhanyisi> DDAZZA, you can add 'metacity --replace' which is an equivalent of 'normal' imho
[12:57] <ftumch> Well... Rendered it unbootable - the machine freezes completely before X starts
[12:57] <friend4ubuntu> if u can access internet download cd and burn it
[12:57] <mkhanyisi> DDAZZA, that way, you would start up without compiz
[12:57] <rileyp> do i need an itunes account to download apps?
[12:57] <Tesssa> i had that problem hp00p so i reinstalled 9.4 upgraded to 9.10 then upgraded to 10.4 it worked perfect for me that way
[12:57] <friend4ubuntu> how to edit grub2
[12:57] <hp00p> ty Tesssa
[12:57] <DDAZZA> mkhanyisi, ok thanks I'll try that
[12:58] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: monitor mode: ctrl+alt+f1 :)
[12:58] <kibibyte> red2kic, where to get apt lines for this
[12:58] <red2kic> kibibyte: Check in Software Sources (under System).
[12:58] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: workaround A: before boot I press esc so I can add in i915.modeset=1
[12:58] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: That's TTY. You still don't have X after that,t hough?
[12:58] <Gornjak> Hey, I've just installed propriety ati drivers so that I can play WoW and now switching between windows has a dealy of 1s or so. If I turn compiz / metacity off the lag goes away. Any ideas on how to fix this? Or how to make AWN icons transparent without compiz?
[12:58] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: nope
[12:58] <Tesssa> yw  hope it works for you hp00p i know its a bummer doing it that way but if it works
[12:59] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: You need to test all workarounds to find out which one get you your X back.
[12:59] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: with workaround I'm able to get into TTY. With Driver "vesa" which is workaround B and it says 100% work I can't get into X
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:00] <t4m1n0_> so I can downgrade
[13:00] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: If you finished changing your Xorg, try "sudo service gdm start"
[13:00] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: Yo. :o
[13:00] <noob^3> Hi all, how can i dissable dropbear on my web interface wan0 ? i dont find any config file? %)
[13:00] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: TTY works withut vesa but with intel
[13:01] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: gdm won't start
[13:01] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: What does the message say?
[13:01] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: just a sec I'll restart it
[13:02] <Yez|Yez> I have a webserver within a DMZ, it is connecting to a password protected fileserver in my internal network. I want to make a script to automaticaly let the webserver connect to my fileserver. With an eye on server hardening, what is my safest solution?
[13:02] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Did you try restarting and follow Workaround A?  (From an installation).
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: connect as in use the files on the file server?
[13:02] <ash_> Hello, how I can downgrade packages in ubuntu? I have php5 vers 5.3.2 but I need 5.2. Installed ubuntu is lucid 10.04 LTS. How I can do it?
[13:02] <Yez|Yez> no, i use the mount command on the webserver to mount the shared drive from my fileserver
[13:03] <Yez|Yez> its a samba fileserver with authentication
[13:03] <red2kic> !pin | ash_
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: you can add samba mounts in /etc/fstab
[13:03] <red2kic> ash_: I think you can do it with synaptic (GUI is easier).
[13:03] <Yez|Yez> ActionParsnip: will that be safe, afterall, the webserver is live on the internet
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: you can create a credentials file to store the password etc and tell fstab to use it
[13:03] <Yez|Yez> I see
[13:03] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I get message: job is already running gdm
[13:03] <rileyp> do i need an itunes account to install apps on my ipod touch
[13:04] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: after typing in sudo service gdm start
[13:04] <Yez|Yez> ActionParsnip: the credential file will make it safe?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: sure, the public data is seperate to the fstab stuff
[13:04] <bazhang> rileyp, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[13:04] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Try CTRL + ALT + F7 -- See if anything are there.
[13:04] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: the only problem when I ctl+alt+f7 is that the screen is blank
[13:04] <rileyp> wel it does as i run ubuntu on my mac
[13:04] <Yez|Yez> ok ActionParsnip,  i will make use of fstab and the credential file
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: it makes mounting easier and it is necessary as you have security on the access
[13:04] <ash_> red2kic: GUI not easier, becouse it's server without GUI
[13:04] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: nothing there
[13:04] <Yez|Yez> Ok ActionParsnip
[13:04] <bazhang> rileyp, itunes is not canonical created or sponsored, check apple support
[13:05] <malegria> hi everyone
[13:05] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I can restart it and show you the output?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Yez|Yez: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/mounting-an-smbfs-using-fstab-461202/
[13:05] <red2kic> rileyp: Use iTunes on Windows-{XP,Vista,7} on VirtualBox, I guess.
[13:05] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Please do.
[13:05] <mkhanyisi> hi malegria
[13:05] <epinky> Yez|Yez: you can use hosts allow in smb.conf
[13:05] <Yez|Yez> Thank you, ActionParsnip
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> rileyp: you can run some versions of itunes with some versions of wine
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> rileyp: you have a device from one of the most closed minded and short sighted companies around
[13:06] <malegria> i have a Intel GMA X4500. It used to work fine under karmic (desktop effects, etc.) but now nothing works... even quadrapssel is unplayable... does anyone have the same chip?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> malegria: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then restart X
[13:08] <malegria> ActionParsnip, i've already tried it... I enven installed more recent versions of xorg from the ppa, without any luck. but thanks :)
[13:08] <NoLogin> hello, Is it possible to enable visual effects in ubuntu 10 as virtual machine in vmware 7?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> NoLogin: if you can get 3D accelleration, yes
[13:09] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: http://pastebin.com/rvnWtSuy
[13:09] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> malegria: try:  sudo Xorg -configure    then you will have an xorg.conf file which you can specify options in, it will use the intel driver for video, you can also set resolutions and refresh rates
[13:10] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: http://pastebin.com/A6rg28Mh
[13:10] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: If nothing occurs, maybe you will luck out with ActionParsnip's commands
[13:11] <malegria> ActionParsnip, thanks, but the thing is I don't know how to customise xorg.conf :(
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> malegria: then use the web, there are guides and sample files all over
[13:12] <malegria> ActionParsnip, ok thanks.
[13:12] <friend4ubuntu> my computer janitor refuses to start
[13:12] <rileyp> thanks for those of you that are wiling to give advise
[13:12] <friend4ubuntu> it says dash package is missing
[13:12] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and "sudo service gdm stop" and "sudo service gdm start"
[13:12] <rileyp> Its not mine its my sons ipod touch and my macbook
[13:13] <friend4ubuntu> but i downloaded the same still it refuses to start
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install dash
[13:14] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: no luck :(
[13:14] <untmdsprt> hello
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: you can also use bleachbit   if you want to clean up your system
[13:15] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: What graphic card?
[13:15] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: intel 82865G
[13:15] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: rev 02
[13:15] <friend4ubuntu> hey where are the local download cache of debs stored
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: /var/cache/apt/sarchive
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:16] <red2kic> chris@mps:/var/cache/apt/archives
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: to clean them out run: sudo apt-get clean
[13:17] <friend4ubuntu> i dont need to clean them ActionParsnip
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: just a friend4ubuntu info tidbit :)
[13:17] <friend4ubuntu> bleachbit is available in repo?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: sure is
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: watch your options though, the browser settings can remove stuff you need, and avoid the options which say they will take a long time
[13:18] <friend4ubuntu> i want to give wakeup call for brainstorm moderators
[13:18] <friend4ubuntu> they are too down
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: make sure you have as many apps closed as you can
[13:19] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Is "xserver-xorg-video-intel" installed? I'm sure it is.
[13:19] <friend4ubuntu> chrome and chromium are same?
[13:19] <Ddao> RP-PPPoE plugin version 3.8p compiled against pppd 2.4.5
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: you can also claw back space by removing old kernels you no longer need
[13:19] <Ddao> ?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: chrome is the stable version, chromium is more bleeding edge
[13:19] <Ddao> pppoe problem:RP-PPPoE plugin version 3.8p compiled against pppd 2.4.5
[13:19] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: it is
[13:20] <friend4ubuntu> so which version u recommend
[13:20] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I just double checked
[13:20] <Monotoko> guys...why isnt my Xchat saving my settings? i tell it to "skip network list on startup" every time i start it
[13:20] <ZykoticK9> friend4ubuntu, chrome is also the proprietary version and chromium the "open source"
[13:20] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: Maybe you can try setting a monitor using xrandr
[13:20] <friend4ubuntu> ok ZykoticK9
[13:20] <friend4ubuntu> how to add google's repo
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: chromium is in the repo
[13:21] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: when I type xrandr in TTY i get info: can't open monitor
[13:21] <MrFixit> is there a leetmode type widget for backtrack 4?
[13:21] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: pardon, can't open display
[13:21] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: "DISPLAY=0.0 xrandr" works?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser | friend4ubuntu
[13:21] <friend4ubuntu> which looks good and works better chrome or chromium
[13:21] <ash_> ubottu: php5.2 in hardy release, i have lucid and already installed php5.3. I must remove php5.3 then hold version as php5.2 then install it. I understand correctly?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: they act pretty much the same
[13:22] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I get: can't open display 0.0
[13:22] <friend4ubuntu> safari is available for ubuntu>
[13:22] <friend4ubuntu> ?
[13:22] <chilli0> Hi , my computer wont update to 10.04 for some unknow reason. ( I want to do the CD update)
[13:23] <chilli0> But either way the update isn't  there. And i have read the update notes and all that.
[13:23] <friend4ubuntu> quit
[13:23] <Monotoko> chilli0 what do you mean by "it isnt there"?
[13:23] <friend4ubuntu> how to quit from free node
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: did you download the alternate iso?
[13:23] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: This is... sad.  Did you try Workaround E? Disable DRI.  I can't find much luck on Intertubes.
[13:23] <theidiot> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOoo
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> friend4ubuntu: /quit
[13:24] <theidiot> GOOOOD DAYY
[13:24] <Tesssa> i had to reinstall 9.4 upgrade to 9.10 then upgrade to 10.4 it worked chilli0
[13:24] <bilalakhtar> theidiot: Stop that.
[13:24] <theidiot> bilalakhtar: WHY? STOP TROLLING!
[13:24] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: right now I have Driver intel and OIpetion DRI off so I tested E also
[13:24] <bazhang> theidiot, that's enough
[13:24] <chilli0> ActionParsnip, I have not. Its the desktop one...
[13:25] <untmdsprt> hello
[13:25] <chilli0> Monotoko, When i press check for updates , no new ones are there.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: the upgrade doc clearly states the alternate iso is needed
[13:26] <chilli0> I see.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[13:26] <chilli0> Ok, Then what If i wanted to do the network install. How would I do that?
[13:26] <t4m1n0_> red2kic: I also tried reenable KMS (workaround A) and disable DRI (workaround G) so I've also tired workaround G - renable kms and disable DRI
[13:26] <hp00p> anyone in here a freelance programmer ? just wondering what the average programmer makes
[13:26] <chilli0> It say's it should come up with stuff, it doesnt.
[13:26] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: How about Workaround G? If you have DRI ... oh.
[13:26] <moetunes> !minimal | chilli0
[13:26] <red2kic> t4m1n0_: "echo options i915 modeset=1 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf
[13:26] <red2kic> sudo update-initramfs -u" this?
[13:27] <harc_> ubuntu-br
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[13:27] <ZykoticK9> t4m1n0_, are you frojnd in the forums?
[13:27] <t4m1n0_> ZykoticK9: yes
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !ot | hp00p
[13:28] <chilli0> ActionParsnip,  I just said , I will just use the network upgrade.
[13:28] <ZykoticK9> t4m1n0_, just checkin' - saw your post
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: ok cool
[13:28] <hp00p> ActionParsnip: sry bud.
[13:28] <chilli0> So how shall I go about doing this?
[13:28] <t4m1n0_> ZykoticK9: I made a mistake: wgen I mentioned monitor I meant TTY :P
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:29] <chilli0> Thanks ActionParsnip
[13:30] <Euthanatos> I have a program im trying to run and it can't find a library that by all accounts I have. http://pastebin.com/QB1HGH98
[13:30] <Euthanatos> i checked synaptic as well and had it reinstall and grab dev
[13:30] <ZykoticK9> Euthanatos, are you using a 64bit Ubuntu?
[13:30] <Euthanatos> yes
[13:30] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an alternative to libkadm55 as it is not available for lucid?
[13:30] <Euthanatos> lucid
[13:30] <chilli0> ActionParsnip, So , with the alternt cd whats the diffrence?
[13:31] <deuxenun1> http://pastebin.com/QB1HGH98http://pastebin.com/QB1HGH98http://pastebin.com/QB1HGH98http://pastebin.com/QB1HGH98
[13:31] <chilli0> Can It only do upgrades from 9.10 to 10.04 or can it do full installs?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: well you'd use the debs on the CD instead of off the lucid repos, if you used the alternate cd you would most likely still have to web update to get the latest debs
[13:31] <chilli0> Ah I see.
[13:32] <ZykoticK9> Euthanatos, you "might" need the 32bit version of that library then (check out the program "getlibs" to install 32bit libraries on your 64bit system).  Good luck.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: you can use the alternate to get the next release, you can go from 9.10 to 10.04 or 8.04 to 10.04 (LTS to LTS)
[13:32] <Euthanatos> thank you i'll try that
[13:32] <oCean_> Euthanatos: a quick search for that lib at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ did not return any packages containing such library
[13:32] <hp00p> hey do you guys know if upgrading through the update manager will restore grub ?
[13:33] <Euthanatos> oCean_, synaptic says i have it
[13:33] <oCean_> Euthanatos: you do? that file? from what package.
[13:34] <ZykoticK9> Euthanatos, do you have "ia32-libs" installed?  this gives "general" 32bit libraries, it might be as easy as installing it.
[13:34] <oCean_> Euthanatos: wait - found it
[13:34] <Lunar_Lamp> I've just upgraded my graphics card - when I run `sudo nvidia-xconfig` however it doesn't change the graphics card specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  How do I create a new, appropriate, xorg.conf without editing by hand?
[13:35] <invzim> Help, upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, now X won't login. At KDM, when I type user/pass screen blinks and returns to KDM. X log tells me driver problem, savage driver, some problem with framemapping range. Tried changing to vesa failsafe, or any other driver, and then KDM doesnt start, X just hangs forever. Any fix anyone?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> hp00p: it wont remove it, it will just add the lucid kernel to the list
[13:35] <ZykoticK9> Lunar_Lamp, you could try the non-nvidia directions at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[13:36] <hp00p> the problem is I had two ubuntus on my HD and I deleted one and it was the one with the boot loader so when I restart It wont find any OS's
[13:36] <hp00p> so Im trying to put a new grub on
[13:36] <hp00p> or lilo
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> hp00p: you can boot to the livecd and reinstall grub
[13:36] <ZykoticK9> hp00p, are you using Lucid or a previous version?  see !grub or !grub2 factoids to reinstall grub
[13:36] <hp00p> I guess I will have to.. Im on vacation with no disks.. gonna have to go to walmart for cds and download ubuntu again...
[13:39] <azi> hello. i've updated to ubuntu 10.04 and now my fonts (japanese) are all distored. is there any known bug related to this so that I can track it down=
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[13:39] <FloodBot1> reyrty06: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <madjoe> Why my Remote Desktop doesn't work? I can't connect to see my friends desktop and he can't see mine... we used our IP addresses to connect.
[13:40] <madjoe> He uses Lucid, I'm using Karmic.
[13:40] <Guest30166> audient
[13:40] <|ns|nR8> did you set port forward in router madjoe ?
[13:40] <Guest30166> guest
[13:40] <Guest30166> exit
[13:41] <madjoe> |ns|nR8: no... is there any link that would guide me what kind of port forwarding should I enable?
[13:41] <|ns|nR8> you basically have to login to the web interface of your router..look for port forwarding section...forward the remote desktop port to your computers LAN ip on same port
[13:42] <|ns|nR8> google port forwarding
[13:42] <Euthanatos> ZykoticK9, yes
[13:42] <specnaz> hello could some1 explain me how its work: http://bit.ly/c0MBZk I mean how it is possible that user from wan/lan can directly connect to a virtual instance ?
[13:42] <MikeChelen> madjoe: or use automatic forwarding with upnp if your router supports it
[13:42] <lxsys> also make sure that the IP of the pc stays the same as otherwise the router will forward to a nonexistant/wrong computer
[13:43] <Jacruth> hi
[13:43] <MikeChelen> madjoe: check "configure network automatically" in remote desktop preferences
[13:43] <madjoe> MikeChelen: thanks, but I prefer manual configuring my ports :)
[13:44] <Jacruth> I heard that there is a way to stop the reading of the hard disk when no data is changed or even reduce de speed of reading the hard disk. Am I true?
[13:44] <MikeChelen> madjoe: either way should work :)
[13:44] <madjoe> MikeChelen: ok :)
[13:44] <cba123> I installed Tracker on Lucid, and I can't seem to get it started.  Even when I enable indexing, it doesn't start at all.  Any ideas?
[13:44] <madjoe> MikeChelen: what's the default port number for Remote Desktop in Ubuntu?
[13:44] <MikeChelen> madjoe: might want to set up a single forward for ssh, then use that to tunnel traffic on other ports
[13:45] <MikeChelen> madjoe: 5900, the vnc default
[13:45] <madjoe> MikeChelen: thanks
[13:46] <MikeChelen> madjoe: it might change if there are more than 1 user logged in, try "nmap localhost" to check once its running
[13:46] <madjoe> MikeChelen: sweet
[13:47] <Euthanatos> ZykoticK9, works now thank you very much
[13:47] <madjoe> MikeChelen: and so, me and my friend have both to set this port forwarding, right?
[13:48] <livingdaylight> hello good people of Ubuntu Land!
[13:48] <falafell> how do i install games and apps on different then default location? (say other partition or so)
[13:49] <MikeChelen> madjoe: only the one that is hosting the session
[13:49] <madjoe> MikeChelen: ok
[13:49] <metric1983> Hello amazing people who also fear this blasted sky flame ! (if you are in the UK)
[13:50] <metric1983> does anyone here have any experiance with problems with radeon graphics cards?
[13:50] <elfranne> what have i done wrong ? (fing jpg more than 1KB ) find /media/usb-hdd/ -size +1k -type f -name jpg
[13:50] <metric1983> set up ubuntu, my first distro thursday and everything is wonderful with the exception of playing wow
[13:51] <johndee> Hey! Anyone knows how to slow down a cdrom?
[13:51] <johndee> Except for eject, setcd and hdparm?
[13:51] <cba123> metric1983, First, ask your question.  Second https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[13:51] <goran> elfranne, maybe jpg should be quoted
[13:51] <elfranne> i ll try
[13:52] <Lunar_Lamp> ZykoticK9: thanks for the tip - that worked perfectly.
[13:52] <elfranne> goran : nope ...
[13:52] <tyranos> metric1983,maybe u need to see if there are proprietary drivers for your card the opensource drivers work great for compiz but not so good at gaming
[13:52] <cccc> ser
[13:52] <cccc> bbb
[13:52] <madjoe> MikeChelen: is this a good approach? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/manage-ssh-tunnels-with-gnome-ssh-tunnel-manager.html
[13:53] <cccc> fff
[13:53] <metric1983> cba - THanks, I`ve followed that to the letter and I have wow downloaded, installed and it works, however being a windows boy i recognise the problems with the game as graphics card not working, is there a way to test if my graphics card is working do you think?
[13:53] <cccc> vv
[13:53] <goran> elfranne, "*.jpg"
[13:53] <cccc> gtgtg
[13:54] <cccc> gghh
[13:54] <metric1983> tyranos, do you know of a way to test my graphics card to see if it is working, it might just not be good enough for latest wow though i know it has worked perfectly for burning crusade
[13:54] <Jacruth> I heard that there is a way to stop the using of the hard disk when no data is writed or even to reducting the speed of reading the hard disk. Am I true?
[13:54] <elfranne> goran : working :) thx
[13:54] <Tenkawa> Any UL80VT owners here (or anyone using an elantech touchpad)
[13:54] <tooManyNicks> I pretty much wiped out all three of my OSes today... Windows gives me a boot error, I wiped the Arch USB, and GRUB isn't working so Ubuntu is out.
[13:55] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: why?
[13:55] <Tenkawa> why does that put uubuntu out?
[13:55] <invzim> Help, upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, now X won't login. At KDM, when I type user/pass screen blinks and returns to KDM. X log tells me driver problem, savage driver, some problem with framemapping range. Tried changing to vesa failsafe, or any other driver, and then KDM doesnt start, X just hangs forever. Any fix anyone?
[13:55] <falafell> how do i change the location where ubuntu installs games and applications? (eg other disk)
[13:56] <tooManyNicks> Ubuntu is on ext4, so my only live cd, which is a Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't support ext4, so I can't access it. I'm trying to create a 10.04 live USB now, but the software on this disk doesn't seem to work.
[13:56] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[13:56] <tyranos> metric1983, u can try and install alien-arena , nexuiz, or one of the other egoshooter opensource games and see how that goes, u can download them from the ubuntu software center
[13:56] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: Because I can't boot into Ubuntu except through GRUB.
[13:56] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: yeah.. ext4 is "interesting"
[13:57] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: my true problem lies in the fact that all USB creators which support 10.04 that I've found are Windows based. Ironic isn't it?
[13:57] <metric1983> tyranos - thanks
[13:57] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: too new distro.. might take a few moe days
[13:57] <tooManyNicks> Which is of course, my question for the chan, where can I find a Ubuntu based USB Creator compatible with 10.04?
[13:58] <Juniksz> Could someone tell me, my father's computer, why can not the video acceleration? Results of the glxgears command: Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 2903 frames in 5.0 seconds 1853 frames in 5.0 seconds 1846 frames in 5.0 seconds In the hardware drivesit is already activated, and often disappears the panel or the desktop. Otherwise I can not enabled an
[13:58] <Juniksz> y effects. GeForce 4 MX has the machine.
[13:58] <Tenkawa>  unetbootin not updated yet?
[13:58] <feravoon> hello everyone
[13:58] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: but it came out late April, A few more day sin may won't help much... And I'm pretty sure the unetbootin is compatible, it's just is XP based.
[13:58] <Tenkawa> Juniksz: updated your driver?
[13:59] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: umm...
[13:59] <Tenkawa> unetbootin is a ubuntu package
[13:59] <tooManyNicks> Right yeah, but their Ubuntu package wouldn't run.
[13:59] <Juniksz> Tenkawa: how do you mean?
[13:59] <Tenkawa> apt-cache show unetbootin
[13:59] <tooManyNicks> I remember now...
[13:59] <Tenkawa> Juniksz: you got the nvidia package from nvidia for your card?
[14:00] <falafell> how do i change the location where ubuntu installs games and applications? (eg other disk)
[14:00] <Juniksz> in the hardware drives only
[14:00] <Juniksz> Tenkawa: in the hardware drives only
[14:00] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: unable to locate package unetbootin, so I dled it from unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[14:00] <Tenkawa> elaborate please
[14:00] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: hmm.. your sources must not include (checking)
[14:00] <cobra-the-joker> hey guys ... how can i update the whole system from the terminal
[14:00] <Tenkawa> hmm its in universe
[14:01] <exs> does someone know how to use artwiz fonts under ubuntu 10.4
[14:01] <Tenkawa> Package: unetbootin
[14:01] <Tenkawa> Priority: optional
[14:01] <Tenkawa> Section: universe/utils
[14:01] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: I'm currently on 8.10 so that's not surprising.
[14:01] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: ahhhhh
[14:01] <feravoon> My internet is so slow in Ubuntu. When i use windows its very fast, but in ubuntu its very slow. Sometimes i can barely open google. Can someone help me? (I use a shared network)
[14:01] <tooManyNicks> oh shoot, it's probably 9.10 isn't it?
[14:02] <tooManyNicks> joy...
[14:02] <Tenkawa> cobra-the-joker: I know a way.... just not the ubuntu way
[14:02] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: checking
[14:02] <Juniksz> Tenkawa: how can I update, the Driver? Is there any command?
[14:02] <Tenkawa> Juniksz: you need to get it from nvidia's site
[14:02] <kamane> can anyone tell me how to remove multiple apps at once in ubuntu software centre?
[14:02] <Tenkawa> and read their install readmw
[14:02] <Tenkawa> er readme
[14:02] <Juniksz> ok thanks, iwill search it
[14:03] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: yeah.. looks like it might not have been there that early
[14:03] <Tenkawa> at least not the current package
[14:03] <mickqel> ; do
[14:03] <Tenkawa> you check the sourceforge site and compile it manually>
[14:03] <Tenkawa> er ?
[14:04]  * Tenkawa notes having a notebook with 2 video cards would be a lot nicer if he could actually switch between them properly (rather at all)
[14:05] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: Didn't and don't know how...
[14:05] <Tenkawa> tooManyNicks: ahh
[14:05] <tooManyNicks> The only source I've compiled is my own.
[14:05] <falafell> how do i change the installation path when installing games or applications?
[14:05] <Juniksz> Tenkawa: mustbe remove the old driver before i install the new one,
[14:05] <Tenkawa> there might be a standalone deb on sourceforge's site
[14:06] <tooManyNicks> Tenkawa: the only version I see has no extension.
[14:07] <azi> hm... another thing.. after update to 10.04 flash isn't working anymore. is there any way to fix it?
[14:07] <Tenkawa> azi: heheh there is although I never bothered
[14:07] <feravoon> My internet is so slow in Ubuntu. When i use windows its very fast, but in ubuntu its very slow. Sometimes i can barely open google. Can someone help me? (I use a shared network)
[14:07] <DASPRiD> Tenkawa, i think i've seen some software doing that
[14:08] <kamane> can anyone tell me how to remove multiple apps at once?
[14:08] <Tenkawa> DASPRiD: theres a modified nvidia g210 driver floating around to disable the card but kinda annoying theres not an "official" method yet
[14:08] <unop> kamane,  sudo aptitude remove package1 package2 package3 ....
[14:08] <Tenkawa> oh well.. 5 hour battery life instead of 8-10
[14:09] <OttifantSir> kamane: Synaptic, mark them with Ctrl, then click the checkbox and select Remove or Remove Completely
[14:09] <Tenkawa> although I get a lot better video perf
[14:09] <kamane> unop: i mean from the software centre, like it used to be?
[14:09] <kamane> there was checkboxes in 8.04 :S
[14:10] <falafell> use synaptic package manager instead, you can use checkboxes
[14:10] <kamane> thats so fail >:(
[14:10] <kamane> whats the point in software centre if i have to use synaptic?!
[14:10] <icser> i am trying to set up internet connectino sharing on karmic via wifi.  i have a wired link and want to have wifi hosts use it too.  i read some instructions online, but as far as i get is my host keeps toggling saying connected/disconnect, but the client can't see the wifi signal at all
[14:11] <Daekdroom> kamane, make it very easier to people that don't know how to handle packages
[14:11] <MikeChelen> kamane: multiple installs or uninstalls can be queued up in the software center
[14:11] <kamane> Daekdroom: yeah but the checkbox thing worked, why take it away?
[14:11] <kamane> MikeChelen: yeah but it glitches all over the place
[14:11] <kamane> the list jumps around when i do that
[14:11] <exs> does someone know how to use artwiz fonts under ubuntu 10.4
[14:11] <ouyes> hi all , how to copy a file to my virtual system?
[14:12] <falafell> how do i change the location where ubuntu installs games and applications? (eg other disk)
[14:12] <Tenkawa> ouyes: which vm software?
[14:12] <MikeChelen> kamane: check your screen settings?
[14:12] <Tenkawa> falafell: with precompiled packages cant say I ever have tried
[14:12] <untmdsprt> is there a way to boot from an external drive on a Mac, or should I put Ubuntu on the internal drive and Mac on the external?
[14:12] <MikeChelen> falafell: edit .fstab and point it to other partitions
[14:12] <kamane> MikeChelen: i mean it hammers my system, and software centre cant keep up. had this problem on a c2duo last week
[14:13] <ouyes> I installed virtualbox and created a virtual machine and installed xp on it, but now I am want to copy a file to xp (from ubuntu)
[14:13] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: you can boot from external drives, if not out of the box, then at least with rEFIt
[14:13] <ouyes> what should I do?
[14:13] <MikeChelen> untmdsprt: iirc old macs can boot external fireware, newer ones should support usb as well
[14:13] <ouyes> Tenkawa, office for example
[14:13] <Tenkawa> ouyes: i think if you have the guest tools installed you can use those to copy files directly to the vm.. (although dont quote me)
[14:13] <untmdsprt> hmm, I've tried that, and rERIt gave me an error msg
[14:13] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: I have both OS X and Ubuntu on my Mac's internal drive, that works also well
[14:13] <linxeh> ouyes: you can enable local filesystem access in virtualbox as a network share (in XP you go to \\VBoxSvr\sharename) or something
[14:13] <BluntObject> ouyes: You can use shared folders with VirtualBox
[14:13] <feravoon> i have RT37USB wireless card. it seems to be working properly in windows. But in ubuntu internet is very slow. i disabled ipv6 but nothing changed. please help me
[14:14] <Tenkawa> or what linxeh and BluntObject said
[14:14] <klawd> guys.. i just upgraded ubuntu an now my phpmodules won't load anymore. can i get back to the previous configuration somehow?
[14:14] <KnightStalker> How could I activate public_html for my users?
[14:14] <untmdsprt> schlafter - I've done that now, but I'd actually like to give more space to Ubuntu now
[14:14] <Tenkawa> klawd: what error?
[14:14] <linxeh> KnightStalker: edit the apache config to use mod_userdir and the relavant other settings
[14:14] <klawd> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: pdo_mysql: Unable to initialize module\nModule compiled with build ID=API20090626,TS\nPHP    compiled with build ID=API20090626,NTS\nThese options need to match
[14:15] <MikeChelen> kamane: that is unusual, file a bug report and use synaptic meanwhile (there are some other optional package managers too)
[14:15] <sioux_> i have two files txt(one have 900 lines and other have 4500 lines), i need compare and marge only equal results. Somebody knows some program do that?
[14:15] <untmdsprt> schlaftier: I have a 500GB external drive
[14:15] <lxsys> any progress on the ATI drivers yet?? me lappehtop still won't suspend nicely since 9.04 :(
[14:15] <Tenkawa> klawd: did you compile the originals by hand or install y package?
[14:15] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: The instructions I read said that you could keep OS X on an external drive, didn't try that though. Firewire or USB is maybe an issue, cf. MikeChelen's answer
[14:15] <KnightStalker> linxeh: where is apache config,and by using mod_userdir everything will go okay?
[14:15] <Tenkawa> klawd: sounds like its trying to load up old ones
[14:15] <klawd> all via packages
[14:15] <azi> Tenkawa: you know where to find it at least?
[14:15] <kamane> MikeChelen: this has happened on two computers, one with ubuntu and one with xubuntu. i dont know what to put in the bug report, as its very vague in terms of what happens
[14:16] <untmdsprt> @schlaftier I'll keep looking to see what I can do
[14:16] <jo_> Das ist ein Test
[14:16] <Tenkawa> azi: I think software center/synaptics has it
[14:16] <linxeh> KnightStalker: by opening up mod_userdir you are allowing users to host their own pages on your site. you have to configure it properly if you want it secure, and you have to trust your users
[14:16] <falafell> MikeChelen, where do i find .fstab? you don't mean /etc/fstab right?
[14:16] <untmdsprt> BTW, how do you bold my name when responding to me?
[14:16] <azi> Tenkawa: flash is actually installed and it worked prior to the update
[14:16] <KnightStalker> linxeh: oh k,and where was the apache configuration again?
[14:16] <Tenkawa> azi: yeah..
[14:16] <linxeh> KnightStalker: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html   <-- this explains how to configure apache, but not the userdir stuff
[14:16] <DASPRiD> untmdsprt, your client does that
[14:16] <Tenkawa> azi: I recall it needed to be "re-installed"
[14:17] <untmdsprt> hmm, ok
[14:17] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: I just type the first couple of letters and hit <TAB> and my IRC client spells it out for me, then your client knows I'm talking to you
[14:17] <untmdsprt> schlaftier: like this?
[14:17] <Tenkawa> klawd: i would check that module through apt-file and make sure the package got updated
[14:17] <linxeh> KnightStalker: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_userdir.html#userdir  this explains the userdir directive
[14:17] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: exactly
[14:17] <untmdsprt> sorry, I haven't used IRC in 10 years
[14:17] <untmdsprt> trying to get back into it
[14:18] <linxeh> KnightStalker: you may also wish to read this first - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[14:18] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: no problem
[14:18] <untmdsprt> schlaftier: thanks, I'll keep reading the Ubuntu forums to see what everyone else has done
[14:18] <mithradir> hi anyone know what is that "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main'./binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[14:18] <mithradir> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.'
[14:18] <pider> can anyone tell me what's wrong in my grub, cannot boot windows! http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/rsiABi6Y
[14:18] <feravoon> Can someone helo me?
[14:19] <untmdsprt> feravoon: hello
[14:19] <Astyx> helo feravoon
[14:19] <schlaftier> untmdsprt: I just keep OS X on a very small partition on the internal drive. You could resize the partitions using Gparted from a live CD (be careful though and make backups)
[14:19] <klawd> Tenkawa: the php version is the current
[14:19] <Tenkawa> klawd: including the module packages?
[14:19] <feravoon> :D can someone help me? i mistyped it sorry
[14:20] <linux> hi all
[14:20] <untmdsprt> schlaftier: my OSX needs about 70GB for everything, though I might be able to reduce that by moving my photos
[14:20] <IdleOne> !ask | feravoon
[14:20] <Tenkawa> the php5-mysql module specificlt
[14:20] <harjot> how do i scan over network?
[14:20] <Tenkawa> er specificly
[14:20] <linux> i wanna ask one question
[14:21] <dazzler> is there a way to change the install path for packages with package manager ?
[14:21] <romankrv> what is better use  apt-get or aptitude?
[14:21] <klawd> Tenkawa: i just purged and reinstalled php5-memcache but it still doesn't load
[14:21] <extor> Is there any *nix protection utility similar to smartpar/quickpar which I can use to secure a tarball against future corruption?
[14:21] <Tenkawa> klawd: same error?
[14:22] <Tenkawa> klawd: with substituted module of course
[14:22] <IdleOne> romankrv: both are basically the same, what ever you prefer
[14:22] <feravoon> i asked the question three times :(  so i am asking again; i have RT73USB wireless card, it works properly in windows. but in ubuntu , internet is very slow. i disabled ipv6 but nothing happened
[14:22] <linux> is it possible to install,update packages simultaneously like how we install things in windows
[14:23] <Tenkawa> klawd: checking something too
[14:23] <unop> linux, not using APT no
[14:23] <XieConnect> how many frequent Ubuntu developers are there? anyone has the estimate?
[14:23] <unop> linux, it's to stop database corruption - and a broken system - it's a good thing
[14:24] <ouyes> I can not set the resolutions to 1280X800 in my virtual system? why ?
[14:24] <mithradir> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.'
[14:24] <linux> unop: but one bad thing is that we cnnot stop installation in between like in wndows
[14:25] <Tenkawa> mithradir: bad sources.list path
[14:25] <goran> sioux_, have you tried grep -f file1 -x file2
[14:25] <Tenkawa> oops
[14:26] <linux>  unop: recently i was updating ubuntu and power get off i have to reinstall ubuntu again
[14:26] <bastid_raZor> linux: you're comparing apt-get to the way windows installs updates??
[14:26] <bastid_raZor> linux: wrong.. you can recover an apt-get interruption
[14:26] <linux> how is that possible
[14:27] <bastid_raZor> linux: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:27] <klawd> Tenkawa: i think i'm gonna reinstall ubuntu. or maybe i try kubuntu or mint this time?
[14:27] <untmdsprt> linux: ROFL
[14:27] <ohir> bastid_raZor: he's trolling likely
[14:27] <untmdsprt> why compare Linux and Windows?
[14:27] <ohir> !ot | untmdsprt
[14:27] <bastid_raZor> ohir: i agree, i just woke up and figured what a great way to start the morning..
 me new to linux sorry
[14:28] <Tenkawa> klawd: shouldnt need to but good luck though
[14:28] <bastid_raZor> klawd: you can install kubuntu beside ubuntu or remove ubuntu and put kubuntu in its place.. with out reinstalling
[14:28] <Tenkawa> gotta run.. bbl all
[14:28] <klawd> bastid_raZor: how?
[14:29] <IdleOne> !purekde
[14:29] <bastid_raZor> klawd: to install kubuntu you would install kubuntu-desktop
[14:29] <imgarysmith> how to do navigate to a specific file in the terminal?
[14:29] <bastid_raZor> klawd: and to remove gnome.. follow the link IdleOne gave
[14:29] <michal_> cześć geje
[14:29] <klawd> ok,thanks
[14:29] <IdleOne> imgarysmith: cd /path/to/file
[14:29] <unop> linux, well, yes, any interruptions to an installation process leave the database locked - but usually it's recoverable and there is NEVER a need for a complete reinstall
[14:29] <bastid_raZor> klawd: at the login menu you will have options to choice which you want to use.
[14:29] <michal_> how?
[14:30] <michal_> spierdalać
[14:30] <linux> when i was updating update the downloads of packages was completed and it was installing it suddenly power goes off now is it possible to recover
[14:30] <bastid_raZor> choose
[14:30] <IdleOne> !cz | michal_
[14:30] <michal_> fuck you son of a bitch!!!!
[14:30] <klawd> bastid_raZor: is mint any good?
[14:30] <imgarysmith> idleone not working, i must be doing something wrong
  when i was updating update the downloads of packages was completed and it was installing it suddenly power goes off now is it possible to recover
[14:31] <unop> linux, yes.. usually it is a matter of running this command.    sudo dpkg --configure -a;  sudo aptitude install
[14:31] <bastid_raZor> klawd: i have never tried mint.
[14:31] <linux> ok
[14:31] <KnightStalker> !fa | knightstalker
[14:31] <bastid_raZor> linux: normally, you will get prompted with a solution when apt-get/aptitude encounters errors.
[14:32] <AcolyteVersion1> klawd: I'm a big fan of Linux Mint.  Great OS.  I think Ubutu 10.04 is the first Ubuntu where I've not immediately jumped over to the new release of Mint.  Brilliant switcher distro.
[14:32] <KnightStalker> !pe | knightstalker
[14:32] <ubuntunewbie> I going to upgrade to lucid 10.04 , which one i should choose ? Ext3 or Ext4 ?
[14:32] <bazhang> KnightStalker, /msg ubottu
[14:32] <imgarysmith> any help in terminal?
[14:32] <KnightStalker> k
[14:32] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, ext4
[14:32] <IdleOne> imgarysmith: what file you looking for?
[14:33] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang : oh , is it stable ?
[14:33] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, yes
 is it possible to update in time specific seasons
[14:33] <imgarysmith> idleone i downloaded the gdesklets pack. it is now located in the downloads folder, im trying to run it to install it
[14:33] <AcolyteVersion1> This may be a daft question, but is there anyway of truly completely uninstalling Rhythmbox?
[14:33] <bastid_raZor> linux: i don't understand the question.
[14:33] <klawd> AcolyteVersion1: can it be installed alongside ubuntu like kubuntu?
[14:34] <linux> the file to update is too long and cant install all at once
[14:34] <IdleOne> imgarysmith: sudo apt-get install gdeskets
[14:34] <imgarysmith> idleone thanks but if i wanted to locate to the file, how o i do that
[14:34] <IdleOne> imgarysmith: locate gdesklets.deb
[14:34] <AcolyteVersion1> Klawd: Do you mean as a desktop session?  Or as a new partition?  If as a new partition, whilst I've not tried personally, I can't see why it'd be a problem.  If as a desktop session, then I don't think that's doable.
[14:34] <reactor> guys?
[14:35] <unop> imgarysmith,  cd ~/Desktop/downloads;
[14:35] <imgarysmith> idleone thanks
[14:35] <IdleOne> imgarysmith: it should be in ~/Downloads
[14:35] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang : ext4 is faster on boot up ?
[14:35] <aurilliance> I'm downloading a driver from http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm. It is in a tar.gz format, how to I "install" the driver???
[14:35] <reactor> can u tell me where's the original kernel configuration is stored?
[14:35] <klawd> AcolyteVersion1: huh. ok. i think i'm just gonna try
[14:35] <unop> IdleOne, it's unlikely that locate would find it - if he's just downloaded it
[14:35] <bastid_raZor> linux: i'm not sure that makes sense either.
[14:35] <IdleOne> unop: true
[14:36] <imgarysmith> thanks idleone and unop  i didnt add in the ~/
[14:36] <AcolyteVersion1> Klawd: Good luck.  Again, if it's partitioning, you may have to manually specify them, but it shouldn't be an issue.
[14:37] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport > klawd
[14:37] <bbdude> Uh
[14:37] <bbdude> can anyone help me here?
[14:37] <ikonia> if you ask a question
[14:37] <IdleOne> maybe
[14:37] <bbdude> Okay
[14:37] <bbdude> I just installed ubuntu via wubi on a pent 4 1.7 with 512 mb of ram
[14:37] <bbdude> and
[14:38] <bbdude> everything's real slow
[14:38] <bbdude> it took 20 minutes to install the flash plugin in firefox
[14:38] <mman> hi, could anyone help me with sound manager ??
[14:38] <nagydann> you should have installed Xubuntu
[14:38] <ouyes> BluntObject, how to ?"You can use shared folders with VirtualBox"?
[14:38] <aurilliance> I'm downloading a driver from http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm. It is in a tar.gz format, how to I "install" the driver???
[14:38] <nagydann> That's much faster
[14:38] <bbdude> I don't understand though
[14:38] <linux> is it possible to update half today and other next day and renaming on next day because my net speed is slow it takes time to download and almost 2hrs to install them
[14:39] <ocatacoo> how do I :simple question: how do I change plymouth to use one of my images
[14:39] <Daekdroom> linux, unfortunatelly not..
[14:39] <ikonia> linux: splitting updates is not a good idea
[14:39] <linux> but my speed is slow
[14:39] <nagydann> Ubuntu (because of Gnome GUI) is not for slow hardwares.
[14:39] <linux> no other solution
[14:39] <bbdude> how is XP faster than ubuntu on this computer
[14:40] <Daekdroom> bbdude, XP was released back in 2001.
[14:40] <IdleOne> linux: in the Update Manager you can select what packages you want to install be selecting or deselecting the check box next to them. Like ikonia just mentioned it is not a good idea in any OS to split updates
[14:40] <ikonia> nagydann: that's nonsense, gnome will work fine, and the definition of slow is subjective
[14:40] <mman> hi, could anyone help me with sound manager ??
[14:40] <Daekdroom> bbdude, and comes with almost no usable function. You have to download and install everything
[14:40] <AcolyteVersion1> So, does anyone have any tips on actually getting rid of RhythmBox?  Problem is, RB keeps force closing on me, but I can't just do a fresh install, as every time I try, it restores my previous settings.  Have tried clearing the files in .gconf and in .local, but no luck.
[14:40] <nagydann> Try Xubuntu! That will do the job!
[14:40] <bbdude> yes, but ubuntu is coming off as bloated right now
[14:40] <ocatacoo> can anyone help with plymouth
[14:40] <Daekdroom> bbdude, It runs faster than Vista/7 for me :P
[14:40] <ikonia> bbdude: what video card do you have ?
[14:41] <bbdude> 9800 pro
[14:41] <nagydann> The definition on definition is subjective too.
[14:41] <ikonia> bbdude: what make is that ?
[14:41] <bbdude> ati.
[14:41] <invzim> After horrible upgrade from karmic to lucid, I find a weird workaround. KDM screen used to blink when I logged in and a fatal X server was logged. So I stopped kdm, rmmod savage (video driver), modprobe savagefb, and type startx from the console instead of going to kdm. And now I am running here! What is going on? How can I make it work the right way?
[14:41] <ikonia> nagydann: don't be smart
[14:41] <IdleOne> bbdude: since you just installed via wubi I would remove it and do a !dualboot
[14:41] <costre> The visual crap in ubuntu was fun for about two weeks ... then I started stripping it down to the essentials, less is more
 i understand but for me it take 4 hrs to just download and other 3hrs to install
[14:41] <bbdude> remove... what? the whole OS?
[14:42] <compaq> google chrome is awesome
[14:42] <m3asmi> I've problem to connect to my LAMP !!!! firefox return "Firefox ne peut établir de connexion avec le serveur à l'adresse localhost."
[14:42] <costre> linux, That's why I love sweden .. optical fibers for everyone!
[14:42] <IdleOne> linux: well, we told you how you could do it and we gave you the warning about it's dangers. the system is yours and you may admin it how you please
[14:42] <bastid_raZor> linux: i can only guess you're talking about the initial updates from a fresh install?
[14:42] <Igramul> Hi, what could be the problem, if transfers via cifs are exremely slow (1 MB/s on a GBit connection). Server is Ubuntu 10.04 Server, Client is Ubuntu 10.04 desktop.
[14:43] <t0mm13b> hi...
[14:43] <Micc> why do I get this error when running apt-get update ? karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[14:43] <compaq> my internet is very fast, cogeco in ontario uses fiber optics for everyone too
[14:43] <t0mm13b> is there anywhere I can obtain a kernel config for Ubuntu 10.04
[14:43] <ikonia> t0mm13b: /proc/config.gz
[14:43] <t0mm13b> there is no proc/config.gz present? Stock kernel
[14:43] <bbdude> IdleOne, could you clarify please
[14:43] <unop> Micc, you've enabled a third-party repository for which you haven't installed a public key
[14:43] <Igramul> t0mm13b, look in /boot
[14:43] <imaginativeone> 10.4 crashed my system
[14:44] <imaginativeone> Is there an easy way to recover?
[14:44] <ocatacoo> micc the key is not matching or installed
[14:44] <IdleOne> bbdude: actually I can't. I may have misspoken when I suggested dual boot. sorry :/
[14:44] <bbdude> hmm
[14:44] <compaq> Micc, I get it all the time too, even after I install the key.  I guess you have to regenerate the key every time
[14:44] <unimatrix9> hi there
[14:45] <bbdude> I just don't understand why ubuntu is being so jarringly clunky
[14:45] <IdleOne> bbdude: ikonia knows his stuff I would continue to consult him
[14:45] <unimatrix9> what could i use to benchmark pc' s with ubuntu ( beside phoronix, wich is a bit to heavy )
[14:45] <bbdude> Alright
[14:45] <ocatacoo> check the package on launchpad
[14:45] <Micc> How do I regenerate the key?
 i want to update from 9.04 t0 10 and there was no system for selecting specific packages
[14:45] <compaq> Micc, if you are done installing from them, you could just comment out that source and then you would get the error, I just ignore the error myself, hehe
[14:45] <unimatrix9> ikonia is the best !
[14:45] <ouyes> How to share files with my virtual xp?
 i want to update from 9.04 t0 10 and there was no system for selecting specific packages
[14:45] <Micc> how do I ignore the error? It stops everyhing else from updating.
[14:45] <unimatrix9> ouyes : virtualbox?
[14:46] <feravoon> i have rt73usb wireless card. I have very slow internet in ubuntu. But it works properly under windows. I tried to disable ipv6 but nothing changed. can someone help me?
[14:46] <ouyes> unimatrix9, yes
[14:46] <compaq> linucks, you can just type in apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:46] <bastid_raZor> linux: correct, you will need to download them all. and upgrade is a major ordeal and requires a large download and a somewhat lengthy install
[14:46] <ikonia> bbdude: it's quite possible that everything is not slow, and it all just seems slow due to your video card not being configured correctly or fully supported
[14:46] <compaq> linux, you just type apt-get dist-upgrade, or you can you update manager
[14:46] <ikonia> bbdude:  a lot of people complain of their system running slow, when it's actually running fast, however the visuals are running slow, making it appear slow
[14:46] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I have installed xp under ubuntu via virtualbox , but I do not know how to share files between them?
[14:46] <bbdude> actually the visuals work great
[14:47] <bastid_raZor> compaq: dist-upgrade will not upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[14:47] <bbdude> but
[14:47] <compaq> ikonia, that sound slow to me
[14:47] <ikonia> compaq: what ?
[14:47] <bbdude> perhaps, if I install ATI's official drivers?
[14:47] <ikonia> bbdude: whoaaa there
[14:47] <compaq> bastid_raZor, yeah right, how do you do it on the command line then?:
[14:47] <Nikole_TheBest> ikonia hi
 what will that do
[14:47] <compaq> bastid_raZor, oh I see
[14:47] <ocatacoo> does anyone or can anyone help with plymouth
[14:47] <ikonia> bbdude: have you enabled the ati drivers in the hardware driver tool ?
[14:47] <ikonia> Nikole_TheBest: hello
[14:47] <Daekdroom> bbdude, 9800 PRO isn't supported by the lastest ATI drivers
[14:47] <bastid_raZor> compaq: sudo do-release-upgrade   ..is a method
[14:47] <bbdude> ikonia: lemme check
[14:47] <t0mm13b> Igramul: no... no config.gz
[14:48] <compaq> linux, forget it, my bad, I thought you wanted to do it to 10.0.4, look at what bastid_raZor said
[14:48] <t0mm13b> Igramul: not in /boot
[14:48] <madadam> Hi! I have a little problem with 3d rendering  http://paste.ubuntu.com/438337/ Someone could give me an hand?
[14:48] <ouyes> how to get hardware decoding in smplayer, I have an ati vga card
[14:48] <bbdude> daekdroom: there's legacy drivers I believe still available on ati's site
[14:48] <feravoon> why do you keep ignoring me?
[14:48] <Daekdroom> bbdude, they're compatible only up to 9.04 release, tho
[14:48] <Igramul> t0mm13b, config-somversionnumber-generic
[14:48] <unimatrix9> install vboxgeustadditions
[14:48] <compaq> ikonia, my visuals speeded up, all I had to was switch from firefox to chrome
[14:48] <AcolyteVersion1> ouyes: In the VM settings, try making the XP VM use a bridged adapter.  The XP VM will then show up on your local network and can share files then as you would any other PC on the network.  I've always found that easier to set up than VBox Guest Sharing, at least over on Vista.
[14:48] <bbdude> daekdroom: true, but whatever works :D
[14:48] <t0mm13b> Igramul: in /boot?
[14:48] <sharkzz> hye all...
[14:48] <unimatrix9> ouyes : boot up your xp and install the tool
[14:48] <ikonia> compaq: I'm not sure how that's relevant to any of the current discussion
[14:49] <Daekdroom> bbdude, I'd honestly give the r300g driver a shot
[14:49] <compaq> ikonia, or I could turn of compiz and run metacity, but I love the scale feature
[14:49] <Igramul> t0mm13b, yes, in /boot - those should be the configurations of the default kernels
[14:49] <laen> Just installed FreeNX on a fresh 10.04 desktop according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX#Installing%20the%20FreeNX%20server%20on%20Ubuntu%20Lucid%20(10.04) ..but it's not working, there's no NX configuration in sshd_config, and there's no nx process?
[14:49] <compaq> ikonia, ok, excuse me
[14:49] <ikonia> compaq: again, I don't know why are you are telling me this
[14:49] <unimatrix9> ouyes : VBoxGuestAdditions
[14:49] <queljin> t0mm13b, default kernel configs are in /boot
[14:49] <ZykoticK9> ouyes, I've only heard of that being possible with nvidia and vdpau - good luck.
[14:49] <t0mm13b> Igramul: thanks! ;)
[14:49] <compaq> ikonia, ok forget it
[14:49] <queljin> t0mm13b, try "ls -la /boot/config-`uname -r`"
[14:49] <t0mm13b> queljin: thanks
[14:50] <bbdude> daekdroom: r300g? Those custom drivers of some sort?
[14:50] <feravoon> hello
[14:50] <ouyes> unimatrix9, how to install it? install it in ubuntu?
[14:50] <Daekdroom> bbdude, a very bleeding edge driver that uses a new mesa architecture
 is it possible to download all packages one day and then save or something like that so that i can install them on another day
[14:50] <needhelp> hi guys
[14:50] <needhelp> i need help with installing ubuntu. Right now i have ubuntu 9.10 and i want to have a fresh install of 10.04
[14:50] <ocatacoo> maddam, looks like the gfx card does not support it or the driver needs update
[14:51] <sharkzz> Kubuntu 10.04 LTS...have problm..after login desktop or loading desktop..
[14:51] <feravoon> beni anlayabilen var mı ?
[14:51] <IdleOne> linux: you could download the Alternate CD and do an upgrade with the cd
[14:51] <needhelp> some how, my usb boot isn't working, i've always used usb boot but this time it gives boot error, i think it has something to do with my motherboard :-/
[14:51] <needhelp> and i don't have a cd-rom.
[14:51] <IdleOne> !alternate > linux
[14:51] <PrebenR> Why doesn't "search local" work in resolve.conf so that I can withe ssh machine in stead of ssh machine.local
[14:51] <bbdude> daekdroom: how do I get it?
[14:51] <sharkzz> Kubuntu 10.04 LTS...have problm..after login desktop or loading desktop..
[14:51] <Daekdroom> bbdude, google for xorg-edgers PPA
[14:51] <sharkzz> anybody...can help me..@
[14:51] <compaq> linux, yeah, I want to do that now too.  I guess you run the apt-get install command, take not of the files it downloads, and then wget them one by one, for install later.  But I wish there was a better way.  Let me know if you find one
[14:51] <needhelp> is there a way to make the usb live and maybe insert a grub entry so that it loads the usb? Booting from usb may not be happening due to bios issues, since the flash disks
[14:52] <AcolyteVersion1> well, I guess I give up on RhythmBox for now.  I'll have to jump ship to Exaile :-\  Cannot work out how to get rid of these segmentation errors, and reinstalling just reloads the old configs.  *sigh*
[14:52] <unimatrix9> ouyes : VBoxGuestAdditions , you boot the virtual xp and install it there
[14:52] <anodesni> My gnome systray is messed up, now the mail icon is gone (for chatting), but sometimes the network applet is gone. By gone I mean that it displays a blank area instead of an icon and it has lost its function.
[14:52] <compaq> linux, I want to download and store all those things I install after a fresh install, like mplayer, and flash, and then next time I install, I can install without the internet
[14:52] <nigelb> Is there a problem with windows 7 overwriting grub2 every time I boot into windows 7? I keep running into it
[14:52] <feravoon> sesimi duyan var mıı?
[14:52] <ouyes> unimatrix9, you mean it is a xp software?
[14:52] <ocatacoo> ubottu where can I find help with plymouth
[14:52] <needhelp> anyone???
[14:52] <Ganon_> Hi there, I've got some problems with my ATI Radeon HD 3850 and Ubuntu 10.04.. The official driver from ATI slows down my framerate to 1100 per 5 seconds.. But without the driver, I don't have direct rendering.. but a framerate of 5300 per 5 seconds..
[14:53] <sharkzz> yea..
[14:53] <ocatacoo> needhelp whats up?
[14:53] <AcolyteVersion1> nigelb: I've had a dual boot of Win7 & Ubuntu.  7 wrecked grub the first boot, but after I restored Grub via LiveCD, it didn't overwrite it again.
[14:53] <compaq> needhelp, sorry but, why do you want to boot from usb, especially if your bios doesn't support it?
[14:53] <anodesni> can anybody help me fix the systray?
 me too lets see if it is possible
[14:53] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: hm, its rewriting on every boot into windows 7
[14:53] <needhelp> compaq: well it used to boot from it previously
[14:54] <feravoon> hello
[14:54] <compaq> needhelp, oh, so your bios does support it
[14:54] <tyranos> PrebenR,  you can use the ~/.ssh/config file to store hosts and usernames and other options as well
[14:54] <unimatrix9> ouyes : yes , start virtualbox
[14:54] <sharkzz> hello feravoon..
[14:54] <unimatrix9> ouyes : did you start it?
[14:54] <sharkzz> that right..
[14:54] <ocatacoo> have you changed boot order or settings in bios
[14:54] <compaq> needhelp, maybe you should make your boot usb again, such as if you pulled it out during a copy operation
[14:54] <Adola> Hi!  I need to grab a number at the very end of a file.  (It's the temp of my GPU, a read out from ATIconfig)  is there anyway I can use the command line for that?
[14:54] <imgarysmith> how do i install a tar.gz file when i am in the folder it is located?
[14:55] <ouyes> unimatrix9, yes
[14:55] <feravoon> my internet is vey slow comparing to speed in windows. why is that?
[14:55] <IdleOne> !compile | imgarysmith
[14:55] <AcolyteVersion1> nigelb: Just to double check, are you actually repairing grub2 or are you using something like EasyBCD in Windows to try and add the Linux boot option?
[14:55] <unimatrix9> ouyes : one other qeustion ., did you install the version in ubuntu or downloaded the commercial one from virtualbox webpage?
[14:55] <Ganon_> anyone??
[14:55] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: I'm booting into live cd and repairing grub2
[14:55] <pompa> hi everyone, I was testing irssi a bit, but let's take the occasion to ask why the hell Ubuntu One is not working...
[14:55] <sharkzz> yup
[14:55] <unimatrix9> the commercial one has more options, i dont know if you can share files with the open version in repositorie of ubuntu
[14:56] <unimatrix9> any way
[14:56] <sharkzz> Ganon_
[14:56] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: did that thrice
[14:56] <ouyes> unimatrix9, just sudo apt-get install ......
[14:56] <imgarysmith> that only tells me how to unpack it, how do i install it
[14:56] <ouyes> ah no
[14:56] <ocatacoo> idle one where can I find help with plymouth
[14:56] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I installed it in the software center
[14:56] <unimatrix9> ouyes : in the menu you see file, then go there and to virtula media manager
[14:56] <feravoon> my internet is vey slow comparing to speed in windows. why is that?
[14:56] <AcolyteVersion1> nigelb: Ah.  Just checking, 'cause I tried the EasyBCD route at first with no joy.  I'm.. honestly stumped then.  I've had to restore Grub2 for an XP and Win7 dual boot, but every time, the restore stuck and didn't have to do it again.
[14:57] <PrebenR> hi. I'm trying to setup the system so I can ssh MachineX and not have to type MachineX.local (or .lan). I thought a search local in /etc/resolve.conf would work, but no ..
[14:57] <IdleOne> ocatacoo: ask a question and if someone here knows they will help
[14:57] <unimatrix9> ouyes : open virtual media manager
[14:57] <bastidrazor> imgarysmith: read the README that was unpacked from the tar.gz
[14:57] <sharkzz> Kubuntu 10.04 LTS...have problm..after login desktop or loading desktop..
[14:57] <sharkzz> White screen..
[14:57] <imgarysmith> bastidrazor there is no readme file
[14:57] <sharkzz> Kubuntu 10.04 LTS...have problm..after login desktop or loading desktop..
[14:57] <sharkzz> White screen..
[14:57] <bastidrazor> imgarysmith: then you need instructions from the website you downloaded it from
[14:57] <sharkzz> anybody can help.?
[14:57] <linux> is it possible to save the packages,apps what we download by sudo install apt-get command
[14:57] <sharkzz> y..
[14:57] <feravoon> my internet is vey slow comparing to speed in windows. why is that?
[14:58] <imgarysmith> bastidrazor ill check that now, thanks
[14:58] <tyranos> adola, cat filename | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $#}' , replace # with col num of the string you want if they are separated with whitspace
[14:58] <unimatrix9> and see if there is an option for add , and add the VBoxGeustAdditions ( if its there )
[14:58] <iflema> !repeat | feravoon
[14:58] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: something wrong with my win7 then, sigh
[14:58] <iflema> linux /var/apt/cache is where they end up
[14:58] <unimatrix9> add the VBoxGeustAdditions.iso
[14:58] <unimatrix9> ouyes : is it there?
[14:59] <unimatrix9> ouyes : CD/DVD Images
[14:59] <iflema> linux sorry.... /var/cache/apt
 what package are you trying to install??
[14:59] <AcolyteVersion1> nigelb: If it's any help, I remember reading something about Win7 storing the boot info on a small separate partition, rather than just on C as in Vista.  Maybe it's worth digging about in GParted and seeing if there's anything wonky with the partitions in there.
[14:59] <compaq> linux, you can do it with wget
[14:59] <feravoon> ubottu: but i thought it is a simple question for people here
[14:59] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: I'll try that, thanks :)
[14:59] <linux> but they must be removed after installation iflema
[15:00] <sharkzz> yea...
[15:00] <sharkzz> wget apps...
[15:00] <imaginativeone> I seem to have lost a drive.  How do I get it back?
[15:00] <iflema> linux if you clean them out.... yeah
 what will this do and how
[15:00] <ocatacoo> feravoon what was the question?
[15:00] <AcolyteVersion1> nigelb: No problem, and good luck.  Sorry I can't be more help.  If memory serves, the Win7 partition I'm talking about was pretty tiny.  About 100MB or possibly less.  Hope you can get things sorted :)
 so how ill save them
[15:00] <feravoon> ocatacoo: my internet is very slow comparing to that in windows
[15:01] <nigelb> AcolyteVersion1: thanks mate, hope so
[15:01] <ouyes> unimatrix9, yes I see
[15:01] <iflema> linux they should remain until you manually clean basically
[15:01] <IdleOne> linux: I believe you can also do sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[15:01] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I see my xp
[15:01] <compaq> ok type in apt-get install gcc and then when it get to the stage where you see get:1, 2, 3, ...hit ctrl +c to interrupt
[15:01] <ouyes> unimatrix9, it is there
[15:01] <ocatacoo> make sure you are not using a proxy
[15:01] <compaq> Linux, apt is running wget at that point and so you can do the same yourself
[15:01] <IdleOne> linux: the -d switch should download only
[15:01] <ocatacoo> are you static or dynamic?
[15:02] <compaq> IdleOne, woow, thanks
 will it save example vlc hot to save
[15:02] <geez> The update manager wants me 2 upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04LTS. The website says the stable dist came out Apr. 29. Is this safe?
[15:02] <unimatrix9> ouyes : did you add the VBoxGuestAdditions.iso ? could you find it?
[15:02] <linux> how to save sorry
[15:02] <AcolyteVersion1> Well, got to run.  Good luck to nigelb, and thanks to anyone who took a look at the RyhtmBox problem for me.  Might try back later if I feel like fighting RB again :p.
[15:02] <iflema> linux they go stale any way..... if ya wanna split the upgrade (not recommended or do it asap) apt-get upgrade -d will download only
[15:02] <IdleOne> linux: what do you save?
[15:02] <compaq> IdleOne, what do you use the -d switch with?
[15:02] <ouyes> unimatrix9, how to add  VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[15:02] <coz_> geez,   in all honesty I would recomment downloading the cd for ubuntu 10.04  .. backup what you need to and clean install  instead of upgrading
[15:02] <iflema> linux and when finished downloading next time you issue ap-get upgrade itll do it
[15:03] <compaq> IdleOne, oh, I got it I think
[15:03] <IdleOne> compaq: I have never used it. man apt-get to read more about it
[15:03] <bbdude> daekdroom I'm getting a no pubkey error
[15:03] <geez> Thnx.
[15:03] <coz_> geez,   that was suppose to be "recommend:  :)
[15:03] <imaginativeone_> hi everyone
[15:03] <tmas> My ubuntu machine doesn't even boot
[15:03] <IdleOne> linux: what do you mean by will it save?
[15:03] <tmas> can someone help?
[15:03] <unimatrix9> ouyes : boot your virtual xp
[15:03] <imaginativeone_> my hd is touchy and I want to preserve my Ubuntu the way it is
[15:03] <imaginativeone_> how do I do that?
[15:03] <feravoon> ocatacoo: i am not using a proxy an i am dynamic
[15:03] <pallgone> tmas: please describe
[15:03] <tmas> I've got a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on an external disk
[15:04] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I have boot it already
[15:04] <tmas> I boot to that partition,
[15:04] <compaq> But the d switch doesn't download the dependencies, and it does say where they go, but I guess you can easily figure that one out
[15:04] <tmas> then it goes to black
[15:04] <tmas> and cursor
[15:04] <unimatrix9> then in the menu you see Devices , click it and you see
[15:04] <tmas> can't type commands
[15:04] <oCean_> !enter | tmas
[15:04] <unimatrix9> install guest additions
[15:04] <tmas> sorry
[15:04] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I can see my xp in the media manager
[15:04] <Daekdroom> bbdude, the page has a key for you to add.
[15:04] <unimatrix9> hmm
save so that we can install it again without download
[15:05] <tmas> I'm using rEFIt to boot from the disk
[15:05] <bbdude> oh
[15:05] <compaq> Linux, all the files you install are located in  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:05] <tmas> I have a feeling my cd is messed up, so I'm burning a new one.
[15:05] <ocatacoo> feravoon are you using linux in a vm in windows or another OS
[15:05] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[15:06] <oCean_> !md5 | tmas
[15:06] <raddy> Please help me
[15:06] <ocatacoo> ok
[15:06] <vega> !ask | raddy
[15:06] <ouyes> raddy, just ask you question
[15:06] <IdleOne> linux: after you download the updates they will be stored in /
[15:06] <tmas> Thanks
[15:06] <raddy> Ubuntu always boots without window manager for a specific user.
[15:06] <IdleOne> linux: /var/cache/apt/archives/ sorry
[15:06] <raddy> Everytime i iam manually activating desktop effects
[15:07] <tmas> I'm checking the md5 now.
[15:07] <feravoon> ocatacoo: no its not virtual
[15:07] <raddy> Then it gets resolved.
[15:07] <ocatacoo> is that the way the wm is set for that user account
[15:07] <tmas> I'm gonna swith over to another computer real quick...
[15:07] <raddy> It only happens in specific user
 which formate it will be i mean .deb
[15:07] <raddy> Pleas help
[15:07] <IdleOne> linux: yes they will be .deb files
[15:07] <compaq> linux, deb,
[15:07] <ouyes> raddy, try to make your question short and clear and most importantly all in a line
[15:08] <bbdude> Daekdroom: there's no key on the site
[15:08] <imaginativeone_> how do I move to Ubuntu settings off of my main hard drive?
[15:08] <Daekdroom> bbdude, are you on the launchpad page?
[15:08] <bbdude> yes
[15:08] <bondiblueos9> how can I list all the files in a directory, just like the output of tar -tf archive.tar
[15:08] <bbdude> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/drivers-only
[15:08] <Daekdroom> bbdude, there should be
[15:08] <ocatacoo> raddy it sounds like the window manager for that account is different
[15:08] <linux> ok thnx u both
[15:08] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, ls -a
[15:08] <ouyes> raddy, I do not know what to do , but I think you need a new driver
[15:09] <Daekdroom> bbdude, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[15:09] <raddy> ubuntu always boots without window manager for a specific user, each time i am manually activating desktop effects.
[15:09] <Daekdroom> bbdude, under technical details
[15:09] <sr_rules> imaginativeone _ , copy your Home folder somewhere else
[15:09] <r2pashto> raddy: have you tried moving /home/<user>/.gnome2/ out of the way? it'll require you to re-setup the effects (and basic environment), but it will reset the session and startup stuff
[15:09] <Yautja_Cetanu> Hi, I'm trying to downgrade 10.04 to 9:10, I have the installer and I'm in the "select partitions" bit. I don't need my data. Can I just write over /dev/sda5/ with 9:10 and expect things to just work?
[15:09] <ouyes> unimatrix9, any further tips?
[15:09] <bondiblueos9> masterslakk, no that just lists all the files in the current directory
[15:09] <ouyes> unimatrix9, I can see my xp
[15:09] <oCean_> bondiblueos9: "ls -1" ?
[15:09] <r2pashto> raddy: so "mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2.bak", and then logout and log back in
[15:09] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, what are you trying to do again?
[15:09] <compaq> linux, so when we do a fresh install, we could just do apt-get clean, which deletes all the files in that directory, and then when we install flash, and mplayer, and whatever, we can just cp those files, and then take that directory to another fresh install, and do dpkg -i /dir/*deb
[15:09] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, man ls
[15:10] <unimatrix9> what could i use to benchmark pc' s with ubuntu ( beside phoronix, wich is a bit to heavy )
[15:10] <bondiblueos9> masterslakk, oCean_ : image that you've got a directory with subdirectories etc and you have put it into a tar archive with tar -cf archive.tar mydirectory
[15:10] <bondiblueos9> I want what tar -tf archive.tar would output
[15:10] <raddy> r2pashto: Yeah, that may resolve my problem, but i don't wanna resetup everything, as this setup continues from 9.04
[15:10] <tmas> back
[15:10] <bondiblueos9> maybe fine
[15:10] <bondiblueos9> *find
[15:11] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, like direct output to another file?
[15:11] <ocatacoo> raddy what wm do you use
[15:11] <linux> compaq  do dpkg -i /dir/*deb what this do
[15:11] <bondiblueos9> masterslakk that would be ideal yes
[15:11] <compaq> it will install all those deb packages
[15:11] <raddy> ocatacoo: wm provided by compiz
[15:11] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, then you do command and append this "> filename.txt"
[15:11] <r2pashto> raddy: understood ... sounds like you have a session-manager issue ... I'm not familiar enough with the session management to know how to fine-tune control it, sorry
[15:11] <oCean_> bondiblueos9: list subdirectories? You could use "ls -alR" (recursive) or a find command: "find ."
[15:11] <IdleOne> linux: after you run sudo apt-get upgrade -d   and you want to install those debs that have been downloaded you will run sudo apt-get upgrade --no-download (that will install the debs that have been already downloaded)
[15:12] <raddy> r2pashto: Ohhh
[15:12] <ocatacoo> you mean gnome
[15:12] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, that will print the output into a file to look at... then look at it by cat filename.txt
[15:12] <pompa> pompa
[15:12] <bondiblueos9> masterslakk, oCean_ : thanks, I think  find mydirectory will do what I want
[15:12] <compaq> linux, apt-get is a script, it does wget to download the files, and some other program to calculated dependencies and wget those files too, and then it does dpkg -i all those packages it downloads
[15:12] <Yautja_Cetanu> Could anyone help me with downgrading lucid?
[15:12] <ocatacoo> compiz runs under gnome in 9.04
[15:12] <masterslakk> bondiblueos9, soz if no help. i don't think i understand you fully.
[15:12] <pompa> pompa
[15:13] <tmas> the cd was fine...
[15:13] <coz_> raddy,   do you have compiz set up in session startup  for the other users?
[15:13] <x9> Hi all, I have a permissions-related problem (I'm fairly new to linux, and have to do everything via a command line becuase it's a webserver). I've installed a package for Python called Twisted, but the program I'm trying to run can't access the package file[s]. It runs fine as root, but it's a webserver, so I'd rather that it didn't run as root. I know that i need to change the permissions for the twisted package[s], I just don't know where they are or what permissi
[15:13] <xangua> !downgrade | Yautja_Cetanu
[15:13] <oCean_> Yautja_Cetanu: downgrading not supported
[15:13] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, what happenned
[15:13] <r2pashto> question: periodically I see smbd, nmbd, and mysql running; I've used update-rc.d and can verify that all of the /etc/rc?.d/K* scripts are correct (and no S*) scripts. I *think* the apps are being started coming out of a suspend (s2r), but I can't verify. What *other* mechanisms are used to start services? (I can stop them manually every time with no problem, but I shouldn't need to.)
[15:13] <Yautja_Cetanu> Basically I installed a graphics card driver for the GMA 500 on 10.04
[15:14] <tmas> can someone help?
[15:14] <Yautja_Cetanu> and now there is a blank screen... I know it works on 9.10
[15:14] <alireza> hi
[15:14] <raddy> coz: for other users means? in other users compiz gets enabled automatically without any issues, but the other user is a fresh user.
compaq sudo apt-get install vlc -d is this ok to save and install
[15:14] <Yautja_Cetanu> I don't mind losing all my data on ubuntu (I have win 7 dual booted) but I don't want to break my system!
[15:14] <oCean_> tmas: dont ask for help, just ask your question every 15 minutes or so. Try to keep description in one single line
[15:14] <alireza> hoe to install cs4 in system
[15:14] <tmas> I already asked.
[15:15] <tmas> I was on a different computer though.
[15:15] <tmas> I guess I'll ask again
[15:15] <compaq> linux, apt-ger install -d vlc
[15:15] <coz_> alireza,   mm you will have to use wine for that ...other than that .. I am not sure  I dont use photoshop on linux
[15:15] <compaq> linux, it will not install just download
[15:15] <coz_> alireza,  you could go to #winehq  channel to ask
[15:15] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq, unless you know of a "System Restore" kind of function in ubuntu?
[15:16] <raddy> Only weird thing is, when i reconfigure compiz using Desktop Effects, why is it not being remembered?
[15:16] <IdleOne> linux: linux: that will install vlc, not sure if using the -d switch with apt-get install is necessary because the .deb will automatically be saved in  /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:16] <linux> compaq where it will be downloaded
[15:16] <sr_rules> use Remastersys as an alternative for "System restore"
[15:16] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, why dont you use lucid it is newer
[15:16] <alireza> ok
[15:16] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq, Well I might use lucid if I can find a way to fix it
[15:16] <compaq> linux, man...we already mentioned /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:16] <r2pashto> raddy: is it possible perms of files under .gnome2 (or neighboring directories) are incorrect? again, not knowing all the inner workings, I may be wrong, but if the files are unwritable then it may remember just long enough to work *now* but now save them for future use.
[15:16] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and rEFIt. When it boots, it goes to the rEFIt menu. I select Ubuntu and it goes to a black screen with a white underscore-style cursor. I can't type any commands.
[15:17] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, what is problem
[15:17] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq but currently it starts with a black screen (I installed  some GMA 500 drivers and they arn't that great yet)
[15:17] <tertl3> Lucid is 2 year support
[15:17] <tmas> My install cd was perfectly good, too.
[15:17] <ocatacoo> raddy try sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow log out then log in it will give you a wm for that acct
[15:17] <x9> I have a permissions-related problem (I'm fairly new to linux, and have to do everything via a command line becuase it's a webserver). I've installed a package for Python called Twisted, but the program I'm trying to run can't access the package file[s]. It runs fine as root, but it's a webserver, so I'd rather that it didn't run as root. I know that i need to change the permissions for the twisted package[s], I just don't know where they are or what permissions to u
[15:17] <alireza> how to unlock iphone 3gs 3.1.3
[15:17]  * tmas needs help
[15:17] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, why don't you do apt-get remove
[15:17] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq I know 9.10 works with the graphics card
[15:17] <IdleOne> alireza: We don't support iphones or unlock them here
[15:17] <ouyes> unimatrix9, thanks
[15:17] <mkhanyisi> tertl3, not 3?
[15:17] <xangua> tertl3: 3 years for desktop and 5 for server
[15:18] <compaq> alireza, you should have bought ipaq
[15:18] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq I'll try that but I don't fully understand command line stuff
[15:19] <ocatacoo> raddy moreinfo you will need to run sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop after login to not get prompt
[15:19] <oCean_> x9: the user running the webserver has to have access to the files. Besides that, the webserver has to be configured so that scripts are allowed to be executed in a certain directory
[15:19] <pompa> pompa: test
[15:19] <r2pashto> x9: there are a couple of ways to find where it is located; first, if it's an executable in your path, "which <app-name>" will give you the full path; if it's a file itself, a quick way to find out what files a specific package includes is by using "dpkg-query -L <pkg-name>" (you may want to add "| less" to page through it all)
[15:19] <pompa> pompa
[15:19] <raddy> ocatacoo: What prompt?
[15:19] <bastidrazor> x9: sudo dpkg -L packagename   ..will list where all the filse went
[15:20] <pompa> anyone using irssi?
 compaq will it seen after the download get complete
[15:20]  * tmas still needs help
[15:20] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, you can hit ctrl+alt+f1, actually f1 thru to f6, they are all command lines for you to use, even when you don't have desktop.  Then do apt-get remove brooken-driver, and then apt-get install the one that works, and then do /etc/init.d/gdm restart, or just reboot
[15:20] <r2pashto> bastidrazor: do you really need sudo in that one?
[15:20] <oCean_> x9:  a fairly extensive description of linux permissions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[15:20]  * tmas is asking his question again now
[15:20] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and rEFIt. When it boots, it goes to the rEFIt menu. I select Ubuntu and it goes to a black screen with a white underscore-style cursor. I can't type any commands. Oh, my install CD was perfectly good, MD5 matched.
[15:20] <tmas> Please help.
[15:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq this is the thing, there arn't any drivers that work :( its why i want
[15:20] <bastidrazor> r2pashto: no, you are correct. x9 no sudo needed for dpkg -L
[15:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq wanted to downgrade
[15:20] <oCean_> tmas: stop repeating
[15:21] <r2pashto> tmas: can you boot to the cd and have everything work?
[15:21] <tmas> perfectly.
[15:21] <ocatacoo> raddy: it will give the gwm before login
[15:21] <dhdev> Hi all
[15:21] <pompa> pompa
[15:21] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq apparantly the driver that is available for gma 500 doesn't work with xserver 1.7
[15:21] <pompa> test
[15:21] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, I am sure there are driver that DO work, but anyway, just pop in your karmic cd, and do a fresh install, reformat the ubuntu partitions
[15:21] <oCean_> pompa: this is not the channel for testing
[15:22] <oCean_> !it > pompa
[15:22] <euthymos> hi I've messed up my "mysql-server" installation and I would like to reinstall it from scratch. I deleted config files and /var/lib/mysql data directory, but when I reinstall it, if I start the daemon it keeps on complaining there's something wrong
[15:22] <ocatacoo> thats why I was asking what wm you are using
[15:22] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo#lucid
[15:22] <dhdev> does anyone know how to get 10.4 wireless working on a Dell 1545?
[15:22] <DASPRiD> there's a 40th month in the year?
[15:22] <pompa> I know, sorry I just started a new chan for that. Sorry again
[15:22] <euthymos> can someone help me?
[15:22] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, I don't know if this is good advice for you, but I had same problem with my video card, the driver worked, but I couldn't turn on desktop effects, so I switched to debian
[15:22] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq ok, if I reformat the ubuntu thing, reinstall with 9.10 it will just work?
[15:22] <Irunongames> eurytus,  are you using ubuntu server edition?
[15:22] <sr_rules> euthymos , sudo apt-get purge mysql-server ; sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:23] <r2pashto> tmas: is this a fresh install (first time booting to it) or has it worked previously and has recently stopped working?
[15:23] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, if it worked for you before than it will work again
[15:23] <euthymos> sr_rules: already done it :(
[15:23] <tmas-laptop> fresh install.
[15:23] <tmas-desktop> tmas-laptop is my laptop sorry for the double
[15:23] <cats> ai
[15:23] <imaginativeone_> how do I move my ubuntu settings?
[15:24] <Guest39185> anybody use backtrack
[15:24] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq I haven't done this before. I'm worried that if i reformat the ubuntu partition then Grub won't pick it up?
[15:24] <xangua> !backtrack | Guest39185
[15:24] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, what exactly happens, when you turn on your computer?
[15:24] <mkhanyisi> tmas-desktop, try to log into the recovery mode
[15:24] <alireza>  bought ipaq ?
[15:24] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, who installed Ubuntu the first time?
[15:24] <r2pashto> dhdev: which wireless card does it have? if it's bcm-based, I'm using the Broadcom STA wireless driver (accessible via System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers) for my bcm4328
[15:24] <tmas-laptop> how do I do that?
[15:25] <tmas-desktop> ^^ me
[15:25] <Yautja_Cetanu> Compaq I install it the first time, I installed it using the setting "Install Ubuntu alongside other OSes"
[15:25] <linux> compaq what this means Need to get 18.8MB/24.1MB of archives.
[15:25] <tmas-desktop> not the leave
[15:25] <linux> After this operation, 69.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
[15:25] <Yautja_Cetanu> Compaq so now I want to install an older version again but I can't do it the same way
[15:25] <compaq> so do the same thing, only delete the ubuntu partition not the other windows one or any other you want to keep, and the it wil make a new grub for you
[15:26] <r2pashto> question: periodically I see smbd, nmbd, and mysql running; I've used update-rc.d and can verify that all of the /etc/rc?.d/K* scripts are correct (and no S*) scripts. I *think* the apps are being started coming out of a suspend (s2r), but I can't verify. What *other* mechanisms are used to start services? (I can stop them manually every time with no problem, but I shouldn't need to.)
[15:26] <Yautja_Cetanu> compaq ok thanks
[15:26] <cjdevlin> euthymos: what exactly is it 'complaining' about?
[15:26] <euthymos> Can't find file: './mysql/user.frm'
[15:26] <mkhanyisi> tmas-desktop, am not sure about rEFIt, but the grub menu always has an option for recovery mode
[15:26] <mkhanyisi> tmas-desktop, maybe not the case for you but I had an ATI radeon graphics card and samething happened to me and I had to install the drivers (fglrx) first
[15:26] <euthymos> please not it's a fresh install of mysql after a --purge
[15:26] <euthymos> *note
[15:27] <tmas-laptop> fglrx?
[15:27] <tmas-laptop> is that the driver?
[15:27] <ZykoticK9> r2pashto, if you are using Karmic or Lucid it is Upstart that manages services, have a look at /etc/init/
[15:27] <tmas-laptop> I've dealt with my fair share of problems on Ubuntu with macs, but this doesn't seem to be even related to them.
[15:27] <linux> any one what does this mean Need to get 18.8MB/24.1MB of archives.
[15:27] <linux> After this operation, 69.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
[15:28] <iflema> linux some packages are partially downloaded (or part of whats required) after unpacking 70 odd mb of disk space will be used.....
[15:28] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, did you try the command on the website?
[15:28] <BabyGirlsVet> hello
[15:28] <cjdevlin> euthymos: who owns the user files in /var/lib/mysql/mysql?
[15:28] <compaq> Yautja_Cetanu, wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338581/Gma500/scripts/poulsbo_lucid.sh  && bash ./poulsbo_lucid.sh
[15:28] <tmas-laptop> mkhanyisi: I don't have grub and rEFIt doesn't have a safe-mode.
[15:28] <r2pashto> ZykoticK9: yeah, I got that ... which is why I've been training myself to use "service" and "update-rc.d" instead of managing the links myself; are the /etc/rc?.d/ scripts not the *only* place to define when specific services are started?
[15:28] <euthymos> cjdevlin: before the install there is no /var/lib/mysql directory
[15:29] <BabyGirlsVet> who is having problems w/their keyboard & mouse freezing randomly??
[15:29] <ZykoticK9> r2pashto, have a look at /etc/init/ directory
[15:29] <euthymos> after install, the 'mysql' user owns it
[15:29] <BabyGirlsVet> or, who has the fix?
[15:29] <ocatacoo> can anyone help with plymoth
[15:29] <tmas-desktop> Ok, only one of me now.
[15:30] <r2pashto> looking in /etc/init/ I see a lot of conf files, which is fine. I can edit files all day, but nothing there tells me why these services are starting
[15:30] <linux> iflema cant understand why 70 odd mb of disk space will be used.....
[15:31] <slavik> satish:
[15:31] <satish> yes
[15:31] <iflema> linux 18mb will be downloaded..... and an additional 69mb will be used for the install......
[15:31] <r2pashto> ZykoticK9: please understand, I'm not new to linux by any stretch, just new to upstart. Are rc?.d scripts being deprecated in place of the dependency-based upstart system?
[15:31] <cjdevlin> euthymos: that is usually a permissions error. i would double check the user files just to be sure.
[15:31] <linux> ok
[15:32] <euthymos> cjdevlin: are there any mysql-related files even under ~ directory?
[15:32] <euthymos> cjdevlin: other files cannot have bad permissions since they don't exist before install
[15:32] <r2pashto> dhdev: the 1397 is specifically supported in the Broadcom STA drivers. Try installing bcmwl-kernel-source and see if System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers lets you activate the Broadcom STA Wireless Driver. From there, NetworkManager should be friendly enough to "just work".
[15:32] <jatt> kde shows a blank screen in lucid, does anybody here have the same problem?
[15:32] <jatt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470910
[15:32] <tech|1> I need HELP
[15:32] <Pupuser402> hello, my ubuntu lucid just wont boot anymore, please help
[15:32] <tech|1> i just upgraded
[15:32] <tech|1> restarted
[15:33] <tech|1> and now
[15:33] <r2pashto> tech|1: just ask the question (in one line, please)
[15:33] <tech|1> firefox wont work
[15:33] <FloodBot1> tech|1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <raddy> octanium: Hi, i tried your suggestion of copying desktop effects to login window folder, but that didn't work.
[15:33] <tech|1> Well,can you ehlp,firefox wont work in the updated version of ubuntu
[15:33] <tech|1> the new one.
[15:33] <ZykoticK9> r2pashto, i'm not quite sure how the two (rc.d and upstart) interact, but to disable say GDM I use the command "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled" so something similar for your services should also work.  Best of luck, i gotta run.
[15:33] <r2pashto> tech|1: try running it from a terminal and see what the output gives you
[15:33] <dhdev> r2pashto: nothing shows up in the hardware drivers for it
[15:33] <tech|1> what command?
[15:34] <slavik> !ask > satish
[15:34] <tech|1> r2pashto,what command?
[15:34] <raddy> my desktop always boots without window manager, i enable desktop effects, but it is not getting saved,
[15:34] <tech|1> r2pashto,what command?
[15:34] <tech|1> r2pashto,what command?
[15:34] <tech|1> r2pashto,what command?
[15:34] <FloodBot1> tech|1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <iflema> linux the packages are compressed and when the application is assembled/installed itll use 69mb of disk space....
[15:34] <r2pashto> ZykoticK9: I can absolutely do that, though it seems to be bypassing the intended use of update-rc.d and other service-managing scripts ... I was really trying *hard* to stay within the defined commands before disabling auto-pilot and flying by the seat of my pants
[15:35] <acicula> ZykoticK9, r2pashto there is an upstart script in /etc/init that seems to be calling sysvinit style scripts
[15:35] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and rEFIt. When it boots, it goes to the rEFIt menu. I select Ubuntu and it goes to a black screen with a white underscore-style cursor. I can't type any commands. Oh, my install CD was perfectly good, MD5 matched. Please help.
[15:35] <r2pashto> tech|1: open up a terminal (Accessories -> Terminal) and type in "firefox". That's the manual way of starting firefox, and if it's failing for some reason it may very well tell you right there.
[15:36] <cjdevlin> euthymos: you did a fresh install, correct?
[15:36] <imaginativeone_> how do I move my ubuntu settings?
[15:36] <euthymos> cjdevlin: sure
[15:36] <euthymos> cjdevlin: where 'fresh' assumes remove --purge actually removes everything
[15:37] <euthymos> cjdevlin: but /var/lib/mysql folder which I removed by myself
[15:37] <r2pashto> acicula: okay, but my concern is not that the rc?.d scripts are wrong ... instead apps are being started despite my every (legitimate) attempt to say otherwise. I can easily overpower the system by renaming things, but that seems like a broken process.
[15:37] <cjdevlin> euthymos: cd /var/lib/mysql/mysql <return>
[15:37] <cjdevlin> ls -l user.* <return>
[15:37] <cjdevlin> who owns those files?
[15:38] <linux> iflema is it possible to make one package from different .deb packages i am installing vlc and it has to install many packages and i wanna download it also so that i can install vlc again without download
[15:38] <Yautja_Cetanu> Hi I'm reinstalling ubuntu over another ubuntu, I'm in the prepare paritions menu. What do I do with "Mount Point"?
[15:38] <r2pashto> acicula: I guess my question is this: other than the /etc/init/ script that references rc?.d, how else does the system decide whether to start specific services?
[15:38] <r2pashto> dhdev: did that help at all?
[15:38] <euthymos> cjdevlin: 'mysql' user
[15:38] <mreh> is there a substitute for xv packaged for ubuntu? I want to display images from the stdin
[15:39] <FotherMucker> Hello O.O
[15:39] <acicula> r2pashto, /etc/init and the scripts remaining in the rc?.d directories, in this case rc2.d,
[15:39] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and rEFIt. When it boots, it goes to the rEFIt menu. I select Ubuntu and it goes to a black screen with a white underscore-style cursor. I can't type any commands. Oh, my install CD was perfectly good, MD5 matched. Please help.
[15:39] <invzim> Having the weirdest problem. I've upgraded my distro, and now when KDM starts, after I log in, screen blinks and returns to KDM. X log says fatal error, some framemapping range problem with savage driver. However, if I stop X, rmmod savage, modprobe savagefb and startx (instead of kdm), X runs ok... But I tried putting savagefb on xorg.conf, but it doesn't know the module. Any ideas?
[15:39] <chegney> I have rxvt-unicode installed, any reason why gnome menus aren't picking that up?
[15:40] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[15:40] <linux> is it possible to make one package from different .deb packages i am installing vlc and it has to install many packages and i wanna download it also so that i can install vlc again without download
[15:40] <r2pashto> mreh: I've been using feh; is your "stdin" a list of files or the image itself?
[15:40] <raddy> As some of you told that this a session management issue.
[15:40] <mreh> r2pashto, the file itself
[15:40] <FotherMucker> OMG HI
[15:40] <r2pashto> acicula: got it ... but if the rc?.d scripts are correct (all "K*"), why else would something start?
[15:40] <Jacruth> hi there
[15:40] <raddy> I easily solved my problem by just saving the currently running session.
[15:40] <FotherMucker> Hello
[15:41] <Trovador> help
[15:41] <Trovador> rs
[15:41] <r2pashto> mreh: I don't know of image viewers that do it that way (feh doesn't in my quick 5-sec test here), but it wouldn't be hard to write a script to dump stdin to a tempfile and view that.
[15:41] <acicula> r2pashto, cron, dbus etc
[15:41] <Trovador> help
[15:41] <acicula> !ask | Trovador
[15:41] <utku> When I play video, no matter which type, colors are strange.
[15:41] <r2pashto> mreh: if that would suffice, it'll take 3 minutes to write one up (maybe 4 with some testing ;-)
[15:41] <Jacruth> I have seen that hda is supported as sda by Ubuntu since Hardy version, is it true? acicula
[15:41] <mreh> r2pashto, did you try "feh -"? dash is often the way to accept stdin
[15:41] <utku> People looks blue, water is red...
[15:42] <utku> I think it is a problem with gstreamer
[15:42] <_DaniBoy_> Alguém pode me dar uma ajuda?
[15:42] <utku> how can I solve it?
[15:42] <acicula> Jacruth, hda is the old style naming yeah, or just used for ide drives, forgot which
[15:42] <wwiras> hi
[15:42] <r2pashto> mreh: yup, didn't work
[15:42] <r2pashto> mreh: granted, I've never had the need to do that so I haven't looked that hard
[15:43] <xangua> !pt | _DaniBoy_
[15:43] <iflema> linux sorry...coffee time....   apt-get -d install vlc       should pull down all that is required....   and later (asap) issuing    agt-get install vlc    should install it....
[15:43] <Scunizi> Tried to reboot after doing the upgrade and the system says cannot start ksmserver.. how do I fix that?  Tried running update, upgrade, dis-upgrade from cli already with no effect
[15:43] <Jacruth> acicula, then, if I try to use the hdparm to Spin Down the hard disk...
[15:43] <_DaniBoy_> ops... thanks!
[15:43] <Jacruth> I should use it with the sda's?
[15:44] <r2pashto> acicula: cron doesn't appear to do it, so it must be dbus ... without editing conf files (which I'm perfectly comfortable with, if needed) is there a way to find out where in dbus it's defined to start these services?
[15:44] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and rEFIt. When it boots, it goes to the rEFIt menu. I select Ubuntu and it goes to a black screen with a white underscore-style cursor. I can't type any commands. Oh, my install CD was perfectly good, MD5 matched. Please help.
[15:44] <tmas> Should I try with a variant?
[15:44] <acicula> r2pashto, dunno
[15:44] <r2pashto> acicula: thanks ... sounds like I may have to strong-arm this
[15:44] <acicula> what process is being started exactly, and as whom
[15:44] <iflema> linux when i say asap i mean dont apt-get update in between.... there is a difference between upgrade and update
[15:45] <compaq> tmas, how long does it stay there,  cause desktop does that too, and then it finally loads gdm.  But it doesn't take very long, how long do you wait
[15:45] <r2pashto> acicula: smbd, nmbd, and mysql ... by their normal users
[15:45] <linux> ifleam wanna show u output
[15:45] <tmas> It stays there for however long i leave it.
[15:45] <cjdevlin> euthymos: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pnkM0GdV
[15:45] <cjdevlin> that will give you a new, fresh mysql, reinstalling the mysql common files also
[15:46] <linux> iflema wanna show u output
[15:46] <acicula> r2pashto, all started from /etc/init
[15:46] <compaq> tmas, can you get a shell by hitting ctrl+alt+f1?
[15:46] <iksf> eya all
[15:46] <tmas> I left it for almost 30 minutes and it still didn't boot.
[15:46] <tmas> nope
[15:46] <r2pashto> acicula: yeah, but nothing lists a dependency on any of those three
[15:46] <iflema> linux type the first few letters of a nick the press 'tab' to auto-complete to make sure ya get the nick right
[15:46] <Jacruth> Could I use HDPARM to spin down my hard disk if Ubuntu recognize it as SDA?
[15:47] <compaq> tmas, woow, not once did it boot?  you need to try to re-install again, maybe you messed up the partitioning
[15:47] <tmas> no, it didn't.
[15:47] <iflema> linux ok... not sure what ya showing if big pastebin in....
[15:47] <tmas> I actually let it do the partitioning itself.
[15:47] <r2pashto> mreh: I have a 3-line script that works (no error checking though) if you wanted to  use it to start with for your stdin requirement
[15:47] <compaq> tmas, were you following instructions for your architecture
[15:47] <mreh> r2pashto, thanks
[15:47] <tmas> You know, the option to use the whole disk.
[15:47] <linux> ifleam vlc is Download complete and in download only mode
[15:47] <linux> now wanna install
[15:48] <acicula> Jacruth, you have to use the right drive name as an argument, but why are you trying to spin down the disk?
[15:48] <tmas> No, I just did it. I usually figure it out on my own :)
[15:48] <compaq> tmas, I don't know if this makes a difference, but I use ext3 filessystem, where as it format ext4 automatically
[15:48] <euthymos> cjdevlin: worked like a charm.
[15:48] <euthymos> cjdevlin: what the hell it was?
[15:48] <Guest97178> i downloaded the kiba-dock but dragging icons to it wont work, any help?
[15:48] <r2pashto> mreh: I'm trying it via irc file-transfer ...
[15:48] <liminal> hello
[15:48] <tmas> I don't know what the partitions need to be. Is there somewhere I can find that?
[15:48] <iflema> linux well if ya used the -d option.... offline     apt-get install vlc
[15:48] <compaq> tmas, if you decide to give it another go, make sure and try ext3 instead of the ext4, so manually partition it this time
[15:49] <mreh> r2pashto, my client kick up a window, I had no idea what was going on, try again
[15:49] <euthymos> cjdevlin: thank you
[15:49] <Jacruth> acicula, in order to power saving and to stop Linux from accessing the drive needlessly
[15:49] <liminal> im trying to install ubuntu lts 10.4 desktop 32bit, but it crashes
[15:49] <iflema> linux or goint var/cache/apt/archive and use dpkg
[15:49] <liminal> offers to loadup a desktop session so i can investigate
[15:49] <yash> hi
[15:49] <cjdevlin> it's usually a permissions thing btw mysql server and how it accesses that common files. which is why i asked who owned that specific file. if it wasn't that, then it had to be this.
[15:49] <compaq> tmas, do this, make about 1 gig swap, 5gig /, and rest for /home, that how I like to do it, if your harddrive is huge, you can make / 10gig instead
[15:49] <liminal> what logs should i look at|
[15:50] <pallgone> tmas: is it always showing the blinking cursor?
[15:50] <cjdevlin> euthymos: np go forth and sql
[15:50] <linux> iflema, ok installing
[15:50] <compaq> tmas, and make them all primary if it the only os on
[15:50] <tmas> I think I know what to do now. Would it work to install with standard partitions, then use gparted on the cd to reformat the ext4 as ext3?
[15:50] <euthymos> cjdevlin: can you give me a clue of what this package mess was about?
[15:50] <tmas> Nevermind.
[15:50] <dhdev> r2pashto: nope
[15:51] <compaq> tmas, I guess, but the standard is all in one partition, you can manually do that yourself too
[15:51] <r2pashto> mreh: that of course assumes you have feh installed, but it can easily be changed to use <insert-image-viewer> as long as it works from the command line
[15:51] <linux> iflema, after installing will it be there or cleared
[15:51] <compaq> tmas, actually, it won't work, the gparted method, cause formatting deletes everything
[15:51] <r2pashto> dhdev: after installing bcmwl-kernel-source, are you saying Hardware Drivers doesn't list Broadcom STA as an option?
[15:52] <iflema> linux package should remain in /var/cache/apt/archive..... it does on my Ubuntu...... you can do ya whole system upgrade with the -d option and complete later offline, just dont apt-get update in themiddle of all that.....
[15:52] <codertux> hi, I've just updated my ubuntu 8.04 server to 10.04. it's running in a xen VM. the problem is it always hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...Done" any ideas why?
[15:52] <compaq> tmas, I like to separate / /home cause if I fill up my hard drive, my system is ok cause its on /, and only /home is full
[15:52] <cjdevlin> euthymos: whenever you reinstall the server, you have to reinstall the common files also. the third line forces the common files to be reinstalled w/o messing up any of the dependencies
[15:52] <r2pashto> dhdev: does "lspci" list your wireless device?
[15:52] <utku> All colors in videos looks strange in Ubuntu 10.04: water is red, people's tan is blue...
[15:52] <euthymos> cjdevlin: thx :)(
[15:52] <utku> How can I solve that?
[15:53] <r2pashto> utku: perhaps your rose-colored glasses need tuning ;-)
[15:53] <linux> iflema, can i do it to upgrade ubuntu 9..04 to 10.04
[15:53] <slavik> utku: use vlc/mplayer instead of movie-player
[15:53] <Dodobird> utku: Which video player are you using? And are you having trouble with colors in any other application?
[15:53] <xangua> linux: no
[15:53] <compaq> utku, open totem and edit preference, and the video, and then hit reset
[15:53] <utku> Dodobird: All of them.
[15:54] <iflema> linux arghhhh.... good question...... hangon
[15:54] <utku> I've tried it with VLC, mplayer...
[15:54] <utku> same
[15:54] <liminal>  im trying to install ubuntu lts 10.4 desktop 32bit, but it crashes
[15:54] <compaq> its wierd totem has video setting system wide, so when you resent in totem, it is reset for mplayer, and vlc too
[15:54] <pallgone> utku: have you checked your eyes? ;)
[15:54] <liminal> it offers me a desktop session to investigate
[15:54] <linux> iflema, if no is there other way to download updates of 10.04 and then install
[15:55] <liminal> where do i start?
[15:55] <waieez> hi i'm trying to install nero using a CD but it says the file is not marked as an executable. how do i get it to install?
[15:55] <compaq> utku, when you play the video in totem,, it will install necessary drivers automatically for you too
[15:55] <r2pashto> utku: what's your color depth in xorg.conf? ("grep Depth /etc/X11/xorg.conf")
[15:55] <iflema> linux the alternate-cd.... not the desktop
[15:55] <Jordan_U> utku: Do these pictures look the same http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/content_images/browser_color/cl_pro-photo-no_icc.jpg http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/content_images/browser_color/cl_pro-photo_icc.jpg ?
[15:55] <utku> pallgone: yeah, the sky is purple, the water is green. there is a problem with video I'm sure :P
[15:55] <xangua> waieez: nero hasa native linux version
[15:55] <melrokz> I have to first click on the icon and then double click to open a drive in Nautilus, Ubuntu 10.04. why?
[15:55] <waieez> xangua hmmm let me try that then
[15:55] <utku> r2pashto: 24
[15:55] <r2pashto> utku: (I'm just thinking perhaps your colormap is a little off due to depth)
[15:56] <waieez> xangua how can i find that native nero?
[15:56] <compaq> Jordan_U, they look the same to me
[15:56] <the_student> How do I install mercurial 1.5
[15:56] <xangua> waieez: google will help, you can buy or download the free trial version
[15:56] <Jordan_U> compaq: They should if your color profile is reasonably accurate.
[15:57] <r2pashto> utku: huh, that should be fine. Using "xdpyinfo", does the section headed "supported pixmap formats:" include 32?
[15:57] <compaq> melrokz, has, you need to work at your mouse operating skills, lol
[15:57] <linux> iflema, i thing it will update my ubuntu some one told me that
[15:57] <tmas> Thanks, compaq! Trying your solution. So, just to make sure I've got it: 2gb swap, 10gb / and the rest /home. Is that right?
[15:57] <compaq> Jordan_U, ok, good, thanks for the check
[15:57] <Jordan_U> compaq: You're welcome.
[15:57] <compaq> tmas, sure, but 1.5gig sway should be more than enough
[15:57] <iflema> linux http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[15:57] <waieez> xangua oh so it isnt going to be found @ the software center?
[15:58] <tmas> 1.5gig swap, ok. Thanks again!
[15:58] <the_student> How do I install mercurial 1.5?
[15:58] <Jordan_U> utku: Do you have an ATI graphics card?
[15:58] <tmas> For future reference, is that information listed somewhere?
[15:58] <utku> Jordan_U: nvidia
[15:58] <iflema> linux hangon.... not 9.04 to 104..... must goto 9.10 then from 9.10 to 10.04
[15:58] <melrokz> if it's a usb drive or an ntfs drive, the problem's the same. I have to first click on the icon and then double click to open a drive in Nautilus, Ubuntu 10.04.
[15:58] <xangua> the_student: try it's PPA https://launchpad.net/~mercurial-ppa/+archive/releases
[15:59] <xangua> waieez: i don't believe
[15:59] <linux> iflema, NOT POSSIBLE DIRECTLY TO 10.04
[16:00] <masterslakk> how do you update a program?
[16:00] <waieez> While i look for it, does anyone know how to mark something as an executable?
[16:00] <iflema> linux NO...... not with cd or internet connection.... my bad.... sorry cheif..... ya need a mate with a broadband connection..... or hack some wifi :)
[16:00] <compaq> are you sure you have focus in the window?
[16:00] <xangua> linux: no, please no caps
[16:01] <utku> r2pashto: my xdpyinfo output: http://pastebin.com/eA6NPSWM
[16:01] <makallius> !list
[16:01] <linux> YA NO CAPS
[16:01] <r2pashto> utku: looking ...
[16:01] <masterslakk> ...
[16:01] <masterslakk> anyone know how to update python?
[16:01] <overmind> !caps | linux
[16:01] <masterslakk> its 2.6.... i want 3
[16:02] <masterslakk> !caps | pver,omd
[16:02] <tmas> masterslakk: I think you would do sudo apt-get upgrade python, but I really doun' get into that stuff.
[16:02] <overmind> masterslakk: ?
[16:02] <tmas> *don't
[16:02] <masterslakk> tmas, i just tried that... says it doesn't take arguments
[16:02] <iflema> linux you can have a cd of 10.04 sent by post free of charge...... :)
[16:03] <broseidon> sudo apt-get update python
[16:03] <masterslakk> nvm, it worked...
[16:03] <tmas> great
[16:03] <r2pashto> utku: looks good, and I'm quickly running out of immediate ideas; what kind of video card do you have? If nvidia, do you have nvidia-settings installed? Does it have any color modifications shown?
[16:03] <compaq> iflema, who said, will have labels?
[16:03] <masterslakk> it didn't work last time i did it... i did that intuitively and it didn't work...
[16:03] <masterslakk> bizarre
[16:04] <utku> r2pashto: nvidia-settings is not installed, I'm installing it right now.
[16:04] <masterslakk> utku, i think you should install it through the hardware drivers interface
[16:04] <utku> r2pashto: video previews in nautilus are fine by the way
[16:04] <masterslakk> it's confusing otherwise...
[16:04] <utku> masterslakk: no problem, I'm a little experienced :)
[16:04] <iflema> compaq to be used.... not to be abused.....
[16:04] <r2pashto> utku: heh ... of course, that would have made it "too easy"
[16:05] <melrokz> utku: hope u didn't set a high contrast inverse theme by mistake?
[16:05] <compaq> iflema,  how do you get one sent to use?
[16:06] <iflema> compaq you can also order one and pay for it......
[16:06] <r2pashto> masterslakk: I though nvidia-settings controlled *whichever* driver it found; it doesn't actually depend on any nvidia-* packages (i.e. -kernel-source) being installed (though they do depend on it ... interesting ...)
[16:06] <_raven_> performanceCLUSTER - any howtos?
[16:06] <kk_hacker> hello all, if some one can help me, please tell me how I can set an ad-hoc wifi network on ubuntu 10.04
[16:06] <r2pashto> utku: if you have an nvidia, which driver are you using? (System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers) Sounds like you may be using "nv" (the free version) vice "nvidia" (the binary-only release)
[16:07] <linux> iflema, i have many .deb one folder and files in my archive now i wanna pack them all in one file .deb to install vlc later is that possible
[16:07] <compaq> iflema, oh, where is the link for free and paying ordering
[16:07] <t4m1n0_> Does anyone know how can I perform C of Upgrading the intel graphic drivers witzh ppa from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes ?
[16:07] <Jacruth> Does anyone know how to use HDPARM?
[16:07] <r2pashto> kk_hacker: are you using NM?
[16:07] <tyranos> Jacruth, what do want to do?
[16:08] <Jacruth> tyranos, my hard disk is hda, but since Hardy is it recognized as sda
[16:08] <iflema> compaq :P http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[16:08] <Jacruth> tyranos, how can I edit the hdparm.conf in order set the -B option to 255 permanently?
[16:08] <linux> i have many .deb one folder and files in my archive now i wanna pack them all in one file .deb to install vlc later is that possible
[16:08] <r2pashto> Jacruth: I'm assuming it's SATA?
[16:09] <r2pashto> Previous SATA drivers (IIRC) did show it as HDA, but the more up-to-date drivers (libata, again IIRC) more appropriately use the sd* nomenclature
[16:09] <compaq> t4m1n0_, I had to switch to debian
[16:09] <Jacruth> r2pashto, actually, I think is not Sata
[16:10] <Jacruth> but, r2pashto, I read that now Ubuntu set them all to "sd" instead of hd
[16:10] <kk_hacker> can some one tell me what wifi security mode I must use for ad-hoc wifi on Ubuntu?
[16:10] <iflema> linux thats not how its done.... youll need to move vlc and its dependencies....
[16:10] <r2pashto> utku: if you're using "nv", try "nvidia" (if you're not against using binary-only drivers, that is)
[16:10] <utku> r2pashto: ok
[16:10] <r2pashto> Jacruth: my understanding is not strictly ubuntu-based but driver-based
[16:11] <r2pashto> Jacruth: (others may correct me, my knowledge is more linux-generic than ubuntu-specific)
[16:11] <_raven_> performanceCLUSTER - any howtos?
[16:11] <Jacruth> ok, r2pashto, I understand
[16:12] <craigbass1976> using lucid and switching users causes much grief.  Screen goes all wonky, hitting Ctrl +Alt + F7 just shows me a pointer.  Ctrl + Alt +F1 (through F4) doesn't bring me to a terminal
[16:12] <tmas> compaq: Can you clarify the partitions one more time? I'm in the installation process right now. Are both the / and /home partitions ext3? I also can't find a way to make them primary, but that probably doesn't matter much.
[16:12] <tyranos_> Jacruth, there is a file called /etc/hdparm.conf
[16:12] <Jacruth> there is
[16:12] <compaq> tmas, yes,
[16:12] <utku> r2pashto: where can I change "nv" to "nvidia", I couldn't figure out
[16:12] <greezmunkey> _raven_: start here: http://www.ram.org/computing/linux/linux_cluster.html
[16:12] <tmas> Thanks.
[16:13] <Jacruth> tyranos, and I think I should write... :
[16:13] <iflema> linux just how slow is this connection of yours may i ask?
[16:13] <Jacruth> #command_line {
[16:13] <Jacruth> #       hdparm -B 255
[16:13] <Jacruth> #}
[16:13] <compaq> tmas, this is what I do, first I delete them all, and then I make a new partition, specify the size, and it then should ask, primary or logical, it doesn't really matter, but I select primary
[16:13] <tyranos_> Jacruth, just remove #
[16:13] <tyranos_> no
[16:13] <craigbass1976> and I just realized that the Xorg log doesn't have datestamped entries.  Bleah
[16:13] <Jacruth> #command_line {
[16:13] <Jacruth> #       hdparm -B 255 /dev/hda
[16:13] <Jacruth> #}
[16:14] <tyranos_> no go to line 41 and remove the #
[16:14] <jud> hi, i have a list of emails in a text file, each on a seperate line but when i paste them into the address field to send in yahoo, it says there was a format error and it couldn't send them
[16:14] <tmas> compaq: it actually doesn't ask me that. It asks what I want it formatted as.
[16:14] <christopher> hello quick question (couldn't find much on the web): Is there a commercial outlet for ubuntu software? (commercial ubuntu software)
[16:14] <Jacruth> however... there is no "hda" in /dev/
[16:14] <_raven_> greezmunkey, anything special for ubuntu systems? need a cluster as easy as possible...
[16:14] <compaq> tmas, wierd, maybe you didn't notice that option, it should be there, dunno
[16:14] <slavik> _raven_: what kind of cluster
[16:15] <_raven_> slavenode, high performance
[16:15] <tmas> I'll try again.
[16:15] <r2pashto> utku: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers. If it doesn't give you the option to activate the binary-only driver then you may need to "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" (which *should* give you your dependencies)
[16:15] <compaq> tmas, if it ask primary/logical, it will ask before it ask what you want it formatted as
[16:15] <tyranos_> Jacruth, you have to edit /etc/hdparm.conf and uncomment the line that says apm=255 and you it should be set to 255 permanently
[16:15] <slavik> greezmunkey: I am planning on installing jaunty for my wifi issue
[16:15] <slavik> _raven_: computing or for services?
[16:15] <utku> r2pashto: oh, it is activated
[16:15] <jud> i ve looked over it 10 times, there's no bad format visible
[16:15] <_raven_> test
[16:15] <Jacruth> tyranos, thanks, do you think that -B is useful?
[16:16] <r2pashto> jud: you may need to change the separator between each address. Is it one-per-line?
[16:16] <_raven_> slavik, computing like video rendering or something like this
[16:16] <greezmunkey> _raven_: Your question answers itself. The only reason to cluster is for performance. Play with it and leasrn how to do it - the performance will be there if you do it right.
[16:16] <slavik> _raven_: maya cluster?
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> hi all
[16:16] <jud> r2pashto: yes it is
[16:16] <_raven_> slavik, what do you mean?
[16:16] <tmas> compaq: It just doesn't ask at all. I guess I'll just hope it turns out ok.
[16:16] <r2pashto> jud: if so, try "sed -e 's/$/,/g' < file1 > file2" and pasting from that second file instead. If that doesn't work, try "sed -e 's/$/;/g' < file1 > file2" instead.
[16:17] <greezmunkey> slavik: yeah, that's one way to go.
[16:17] <compaq> you can't cluster firefox, or mplayer, it is only useful for specific applications designed for clusters
[16:17] <r2pashto> utku: okay ... huh ... I'm stumped, sorry
[16:17] <slavik> _raven_: maya, the rendering package :) they have some cluster stuff
[16:17] <tmas> compaq: maybe it's because I'm installing on /dev/sdb
[16:17] <compaq> tmas, it won't make a difference.  Did you delete all the partitions first?
[16:18] <compaq> tmas, how many harddrive are on that computer?
[16:18] <_raven_> slavik, and i want this for example for the seti or similar projects
[16:18] <greezmunkey> _raven_: typically clusters are used by scientists who write their own specific software.
[16:18] <_raven_> greezmunkey, i know
[16:18] <slavik> _raven_: umm, you kind of need to figure out what kind of cluster you want since you will need specific software for each thing
[16:19] <slavik> s/thing/purpose/
[16:19] <aether> Hi all. I can see in new versions of ubuntu, scripts from /etc/update-motd.d/ are run at SSH login. Can I prevent them from running? What exactly runs them?
[16:19] <compaq> I wanted to try and run a cluster but it is useless to me.
[16:19] <slavik> _raven_: you can build a hadoop cluster ...
[16:19] <r2pashto> tmas: please correct me if I'm wrong: using rEFIt, you're trying to boot from /dev/sdb, right?
[16:19] <tmas> compaq: I have one internal and one external usb2.0
[16:19] <tmas> yes
[16:19] <greezmunkey> _raven_: here is an entire list of stories regarding clustering on th ePS3: http://tech.slashdot.org/tag/playstation
[16:20] <tmas> I deleted all partitions first, but left the partition table so I can still boot from it.
[16:20] <compaq> tmas, unplug the external
[16:20] <greezmunkey> -raer, and other related Linux/PS3 stuff...
[16:20] <utku> r2pashto: I'm gonna re-install :P
[16:21] <tmas> I'm installing it on the external :P
[16:21] <r2pashto> tmas: I'm not familiar with rEFIt, but the website specifically says "This is not explicitly supported by rEFIt at this time" (primarily because the author doesn't have a suitable test system and can't verify it), though Apple's Boot Camp FAQ says it should be feasible.
[16:21] <compaq> tmas, if you leave the partition table then you didn't delete anything
[16:21] <christopher> I love open source and all, but I just don't know where to turn if a particular free product is under supported, or I just can't even find documentation for it. Is there any place that helps facilitates (sells) open source (not always "free" by definition) commercial products? where I can find a social contract made something other than guilt ^_^?
[16:21] <r2pashto> utku: bummer, sorry man. I've done that too many times and know it's frustrating.
[16:22] <gopper> Hello, can anyone tell me why the transparency visual effect (Alt + Scroll) does not work in ubuntu 10.04?
[16:22] <r2pashto> tmas: okay, well, for that the website says that this is not well-supported by Apple's firmware.
[16:22] <t4m1n0_> why do I keep getting command not found after executing: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates????
[16:22] <compaq> tmas, ubuntu will reformat the drive and make a new parition table, and install grub boot loader to the master boot record
[16:22] <tmas> ok
[16:22] <xangua> gopper: have you activated the plugin in compiz setting manager¿¿
[16:22] <melrokz> Hi. How do i setup a facebook chat account in empathy, Ubuntu 10.04? The obvious way does not seem to work, authentication failure, though it's the right password...
[16:22] <compaq> tmas, now we know why it didn't boot the last time
[16:22] <tmas> why?
[16:22] <tmas> It got that far...
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> christopher: well, Canonical sells official tech support
[16:23] <compaq> because you installed on usb, or kept the old partition table...
[16:23] <BluesKaj> christopher, if you want enterpriswe support then it isn't exactly open source ...there are enterprise liux OSs for sale like redhat and mandriva.
[16:23] <compaq> tmas, did you unplug the usb drive?
[16:23] <t4m1n0_> why do I keep getting command not found after executing: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates Is there a different command for removing the ppa repository?
[16:23] <BluesKaj> err linux
[16:23] <r2pashto> tmas: the boot CD is able to install to drives that the computer is unable to boot to
[16:23] <tmas> No, I'm installing onto it.
[16:23] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, did you install ppa-purge package?
[16:23] <xangua> melrokz: you can see a little how to in http://planet.pidgin.im/ works for anny jabber im
[16:24] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, it doesn't come installed by default
[16:24] <tmas> I know, and I can boot to it.
[16:24] <t4m1n0_>  Daekdroom thanx
[16:24] <tmas> It just doesn't get further than the messed-up console.
[16:24] <Irunongames> I can't find where tork was downloaded from the respiratory - I need to find the folder it's in
[16:24] <onetinsoldier> t4m1n0_: i haven't hardly ever added and/or removed ppa's. byt it looks like you're missing 'apt' in there somewhere?
[16:24] <greezmunkey> Irunongames: locate tork, should find it
[16:24] <r2pashto> t4m1n0_: I'm not familiar with ppa-purge ... whenever I want to remove a repository from my system (not necessarily the apps installed from that PPA), I go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and remove the respective files (well, comment them out ... I dislike deleting until I'm sure I'll never need it again)
[16:25] <Daekdroom> onetinsoldier, it's not.
[16:25] <onetinsoldier> Daekdroom: ok, thanks
[16:25] <Irunongames> greezmunkey, it can't find it
[16:25] <blaha> been hacking all night… can't get apache to parse php index. Anyone know this one?
[16:25] <jud> r2pashto: hm, just having trouble getting into the directory elvin@elvin-desktop:~$ cd /home/elvin/desktop/iima   bash: cd: /home/elvin/desktop/iima: No such file or directory?
[16:25] <compaq> tmas, oh, I thought you were installing on sda.  Well, it will be tricky about grub, if you will install on mbr of sda, or otherwise use mac boot to pass to /boot on sdb
[16:25] <blaha> seems to have bugged a few people on google hits
[16:26] <r2pashto> tmas: you said the console was blank/black with a flashing cursor ... that tells me it never found the linux kernel itself and therefore the boot process isn't making it that far
[16:26] <tmas> ok
[16:26] <greezmunkey> Irunongames: what is tork, and how did you dl it?
[16:26] <_raven_> .
[16:26] <r2pashto> tmas: ... which is consistent with the (paraphrased) statements "it is quirky in the firmware and I haven't been able to test it well"
[16:26] <Irunongames> greezmunkey, it's a annomity protector and I got it from the respertory
[16:26] <greezmunkey> Irunongames: try locate tor
[16:26] <t4m1n0_> to find out what version I HVE INSTSALLED Of a package I have to type apt-cache search package? or is there a different version to figure out version of already installed package?
[16:26] <airtonix> !info tor
[16:27] <christopher> I'm actually trying to instigate something as well as find something (if it in fact fully doesn't exist). I'm motivated by an insane random bugs in scribus. 'Being forced to use wine-doors and InDesign. So i'm thinking "Why can't I figure out why all of my text just vanished when I set my paragraph indentation to more than .1 inches? And why do I have to feel guilty?". I think it's a hole in open source that needs to be filled.
[16:27] <christopher>  'just something to think about.
[16:27] <gps23> jud: its Desktop
[16:27] <tmas> So there is no way to do it.
[16:27] <gopper> Hello, can anyone tell me why the transparency visual effect (Alt + Scroll) does not work in ubuntu 10.04?
[16:27] <gps23> jud: with D capital
[16:27] <tmas> At least without installing OSX on the disc to
[16:27] <greezmunkey> airtonix: yeah, it's a KDE package I guess...
[16:27] <airtonix> greezmunkey, no.
[16:27] <tmas> *too
[16:27] <christopher> perhaps a "commons" marketplace?
[16:27] <repartitioner> hey guys, is Gparted and GNU Partition Editor the same program?
[16:28] <compaq> tmas, if you install on mbr of sda itshould work, but in future if you decide to unplug usb drive, you will still have grub, which is ok, it should boot mac, but not the unplugged usb of course
[16:28] <greezmunkey> airtonix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tork/
[16:28] <t4m1n0_> How can I found out version of installed package through CLI?
[16:28] <r2pashto> tmas: it may be possible using initrd images and such, but I'm certainly not a pro at that and I'm not even positive rEFIt supports that. (An initrd image loads enough drivers into memory -- without access to the actual root filesystem -- so that the kernel can get started and itself find the root drive that the boot manager couldn't.)
[16:28] <reya2276> What would happen if I remove XUL runner 1.9.2?
[16:28] <compaq> tmas, its better if you can configure mac's boot loader to pass to /boot of sdb
[16:28] <greezmunkey> airtonix: I shold clarify - for kde, but not a package :)
[16:28] <gps23> t4m1n0_: try aptitude show <packagename>
[16:28] <barberan> how do I know if my system is running SSH daemon ?
[16:28] <reya2276> This thing is causing my eclipse to malfunction
[16:28] <tmas> I must ask, how would I install grub ?
[16:29] <marvinavilez> do print drivers exist for kodak ESP-7?
[16:29] <christopher> I believe that scientific truth is universal and non-repeatable, but thier is "art" out there in the open source world. Someone should encourage it ^_^
[16:29] <tmas> I only use one PC, so I'm not familiar with this stuff.
[16:29] <t4m1n0_>  gps23 u sure this shows the "installed" version or just the one that's in the repos?
[16:29] <airtonix> greezmunkey, ok a gui config for tor
[16:29] <christopher> there. 'said my peace.
[16:29] <greezmunkey> airtonix: right!
[16:29] <compaq> tmas, when you install ubuntu, at the end of paritioning and copying files, it will install grub and ask, 'should I install on mbr"
[16:29] <r2pashto> tmas: I have not looked into it, but is it feasible to use grub instead of rEFIt? My quick 15-sec of surfing leads me to believe rEFIt won't do it for you.
[16:29] <tmas> Oh. It hasn't done that before.
[16:29] <greezmunkey> airtonix: you were correct
[16:29] <compaq> tmas, are you keeping mac os, is it working?
[16:29] <tmas> Yes.
[16:30] <onetinsoldier> i had to jump through a number of hoops and had to work at it for a good while, but i got an incredible app to compile last night. aweather with full radar(rsl) support!! i dare... no, i double dare, no... i double dare, anyone to get it compiled! haha, just kidding. i need to figure out how to get it packaged and put it on a ppa, it's awesome!
[16:30] <tmas> Because it's on a diffferent disk
[16:30] <ouyes> my virtual xp has no sound?
[16:30] <tmas> Mac OS X is on the internal disk
[16:30] <r2pashto> tmas: simplest way to start learning is to google "grub mac" and go from there ... you're not the first to do it :-)
[16:30] <gps23> t4m1n0_: if you have installed a package without using apt system, then you should find if the package have a switch like -v, -version or --version
[16:31] <ouyes> how to have sound in my virtual xp?
[16:31] <r2pashto> tmas: I've been able to boot to a USB drive on a computer whose firmware didn't support it ... it took a little initrd magic (that I can't remember offhand and am not colocated with it anymore), but it was certainly feasible.
[16:31] <compaq> tmas, if you install on mbr of sda, you will lose your mac boot loader, look into configuring macs boot loader to pass onto another boot loader
[16:31] <vb67> hey, my ubuntu desktop Hangs up and freeze everytime... (10.04 LTS)
[16:31] <vb67> what's up?
[16:31] <t4m1n0_>  gps23 it does have --version.. but after I've removed ppa repository it has different number in it. That's why I'm asking how to find out  version of INSTALLED package?
[16:31] <repartitioner> hey guys! I have two questions regarding (re)partitioning...
[16:31] <greezmunkey> the need to use something like tor just begs too many questions - besides the NSA can find you no matter what.
[16:31] <compaq> vb67, maybe its the video driver
[16:32] <r2pashto> t4m1n0_: "dpkg -l <pkgname>" gives you what it thinks is the installed version
[16:32] <vb67> compaq: I've read a thread too, but it don't seems to be related to a video drivers, I tried with and without
[16:32] <repartitioner> 1st question is: are Gparted and Gnu Partition Editor the same program? (GNU partition editor pops up when typing gparted in software center)
[16:32] <tmas> Wait, I don't have MBR on sda.
[16:32] <t4m1n0_>  r2pashto thanx!
[16:33] <r2pashto> tmas: huh?
[16:33] <r2pashto> t4m1n0_: no prob
[16:33] <vb67>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/576352
[16:33] <liminal> im getting the following error when i try to install ubuntu 10.4 from the text based console:
[16:33] <tmas> I have the newer apple partitioning setup, GUID.
[16:33] <liminal> unable to install the selected kernal
[16:33] <compaq> tmas, yeah, you do, if you didn't, then mac os wouldn't boot.  All harddrive have a mbr
[16:33] <greezmunkey> onetin what is it called? aweather?
[16:33] <r2pashto> tmas: okay, I'm out ... haven't read about that yet
[16:33] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: yes
[16:33] <tmas> Isn't MBR Master Boot Record?
[16:34] <liminal> error returned when trying to install kernel package 'linux-generic-pae'
[16:34] <liminal> :S
[16:34] <liminal> whats going on
[16:34] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: so what does it do, descramble weather sat photos?
[16:34] <gopper> The transparency visual effect doesn't seem to work in ubuntu 10.04. Any ideas why?
[16:34] <r2pashto> tmas: yes ... and I agree with compaq in that they all have one.
[16:34] <siddhi> hi
[16:34] <tmas> If so, I don't have it. As I said, I have GUID instead. If it was MBR, my Mac wouldn't boot it :)
[16:35] <xangua> gopper: yes, install compiz setting manager and configure the plugin
[16:35] <r2pashto> tmas: ... they may just make it harder to know much about it. (I like Apple's stuff but their tactics are sometimes suspect *shrug*)
[16:35] <siddhi> is there any1
[16:35] <xangua> liek i said before......
[16:35] <gps23> many times when i boot ubuntu 10.04 my keyboard is not working, then i have to plug out it out and plug back in to make it work. any clues?
[16:35] <Sunderphon> I'm having trouble with my microphone input on Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[16:35] <t4m1n0_>  r2pashto apt-cache showpkg package also shows the installed version rather than aptitude show package
[16:35] <blaha> anyone know the trick to getting index.php to work in apache? browsers always trying to download the file instead of parsing it
[16:35] <gopper> Ok, thank you, xangua.
[16:35] <vb67> gps23 same here
[16:35] <tmas> All intel macs use GUID for booting, anything else it won't boot from.
[16:35] <acicula> blabla install and/or enable php
[16:35] <vb67> but my pc freeze and hungs up too, and have to do an hard reset
[16:35] <r2pashto> t4m1n0_: yup, sorry, I misread the previous line thinking apt wasn't available
[16:35] <gps23> vb67: i remembered my problem when you asked about your hang problem
[16:35] <compaq> tmas, mbr is hardware, it is a small section of the harddrive, at the very beginning dedicated to the partition table
[16:36] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I see, looks cool (if you're a farmer) :)
[16:36] <blaha> acicula how to install/enable? using webmin
[16:36] <t4m1n0_> r2pashto: no worries
[16:36] <blaha> i already installed php5 package
[16:36] <acicula> !webmin
[16:36] <Muzer> has pppd been changed between 9.04 and 10.04?
[16:36] <mdg2> hello
[16:36] <gps23> vb67: in my case, mouse works but KB doesn't and i am stuck on log in screen, till i plug out my KB and plug it in again
[16:36] <tmas> compaq: I think we may be thinking of different MBRs. Does it stand for Master Boot Record?
[16:36] <r2pashto> t4m1n0_: one nice thing about dpkg (or dpkg-query) is that you can include wildcards if you aren't sure (for instance: "dpkg -l 'nvidia*'" works as expected, though sometimes it's required to use single-quotes to make sure the shell doesn't expand it for you)
[16:36] <acicula> blaha, you may have to set the binding of .php files so they are rendered
[16:36] <Muzer> I'm using the exact same config files on both machines as I was before, but when I try to dial in to one from the other I get invalid username or password
[16:37] <acicula> !lamp | blaha id assume its covered here
[16:37] <compaq> tmas, yes, guid goes on the mbr
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: not sure that it's using sat photos for the weather. the image of the earth that is uses is from sat photo though. not sure if anywaether is shown from sat photos. but.. it looks like it gathers radar info and combines it to show what radar centers from all major cities that have are displayed on the globe
[16:37] <Muzer> is it expecting the passwords in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets to be encrypted now or something?
[16:37] <tmas> Would adding an EFI boot partition to the mix let me boot fromit?
[16:37] <tmas> *from it?
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: sorry, i didn't type that too well. just woke up here
[16:38] <Sunderphon> My microphone input isn't functioning properly. I have three options (line-in, Microphone 1, Microphone 2) and none of them send anything but quiet white noise
[16:38] <melrokz> why is voice chat not working in pidgin, Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:38] <blaha> acicula best lead I've had yet, thanks!
[16:38] <mdg2> gps23: is this in lucid?
[16:38] <Sunderphon> I've tested the input on Windows 7, works fine
[16:38] <Sunderphon> but so far, nothing in ubuntu
[16:38] <Muzer> aha
[16:38] <gps23> mdg2: yes, was also there in 9.10
[16:38] <xangua> melrokz: on what protocol¿
[16:38] <acicula>  blaha its a pretty common problem, basicaly apache needs to be told php files go through the php renderer before getting served
[16:39] <Muzer> I forgot you had to make a user account too
[16:39] <melrokz> gtalk
[16:39] <gps23> happens approx once every 10 times i boot my system
[16:39] <nodie> hi, I'm using 10.4 in an Acer Aspire One netbook, it's dropping wifi conn every 10 minutes
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:39] <compaq> tmas, I got your back, check this out http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnMacbook
[16:39] <mdg2> gps23: what kind of keyboard?  (sorry I missed first part of convo)
[16:39] <nodie> do you know of wifi problems with 10.4????
[16:39] <CarlFK> I just booted a 10.04 x64 cd - it gives me a login dialog, user: ubuntu.  what's the pw?
[16:39] <compaq> tmas, You can use appleloader to boot from legacy disk/cdrom/usb:
[16:39] <jatt> after booting I get a xfce login screen, how do I setup ubuntu to show the gnome login screen?
[16:39] <melrokz> maybe some dependency is not satisfied?
[16:40] <gps23> mdg2: its PS2
[16:40] <Sunderphon> Is there something I'd need to do in order to have my microphone function in ubuntu that I've missed?
[16:40] <gps23> mdg2: Logitech
[16:40] <compaq> tmas, add that entry, and then when you install ubuntu, format sdb including table and at the end, make sure and install grub on sdb's mbr,
[16:41] <melrokz> what package does pidgin use to provide voice chat in Google talk?
[16:41] <jud> r2pashto: ok, so i tried that with a new yahoo account, sending less than a hundred emails and it triggered the spam filter. any ideas?
[16:41] <mdg2> gps23: does it always happen with that keyboard or do you have another ps2 kb to try?
[16:41] <compaq> tmas, first test you appleloader, if it goes to usb and stop, then you are in luck, proceed to install on usb drive
[16:42] <gps23> mdg2: i only have this keyboard, also as it doesn't happen everytime, i could borrow a KB to check on the spot
[16:42] <gps23> mdg2: i mean couldn't*
[16:43] <mdg2> gps23: I'm guessing its either the ps/2 port itself or the kb cord/plug
[16:43] <tmas> If I just install grub on the mbr of sdb, won't it boot? I've never gotten that option. I'm using 10.04 Ubuntu, standard.
[16:44] <gps23> mdg2: may be, i thinking i will have to use XP for few days to test this :(
[16:44] <mdg2> gps23: does the mouse allow you to click on the accessibility options on the login screen?
[16:44] <compaq> tmas, unless you make change in bios to boot usb(if you bios enables usb boots)
[16:44] <tmas> I don't have BIOS
[16:44] <gps23> mdg2: mouse works, i didn't tried to click on accessibility button but clicked session button to shutdown system
[16:44] <compaq> tmas, when you boot your computer, the bios says where to look, cdrom, floppy, harddrisk
[16:44] <mdg2> gps23: you can bring up an onscreen keyboard
[16:45] <gps23> mdg2: if its called session button
[16:45] <compaq> tmas, of course you have bios
[16:45] <tmas> I honestly think Mac uses something else somehow
[16:45] <onetinsoldier> mac has efi bios
[16:45] <gps23> mdg2: but then i will be stuck with gnome desktop without KB
[16:45] <tmas> No BIOS on mac. OpenFirmware instead.
[16:46] <compaq> People are wierd with mac computers, they think it is from outerspace, made from stone, one guy said to me, there are no moving parts in mac books
[16:46] <PolishPaul> is it possible to set default user/permissions on a particular folder, so that any files and directories created there acquire these?
[16:46] <Muzer> ah, it's all working now
[16:46] <Muzer> I love dialup with its funny noises :P
[16:46] <mdg2> gps23: you could trouble shoot if the keyboard is seen via a virtual terminal so you can see if you need to scrounge up another keyboard
[16:47] <remaxim> hi
[16:47] <compaq> tmas, you have to tell macs boot loader to goto to usb for boot, you just add the menu item i showed you, and then when you boot, you can scroll from booting mac, or booting to usb, and if you select usb, then the grub boot will come up and you can boot ubuntu.
[16:47] <quilby> can someone help me with simple bash
[16:47] <quilby> http://pastebin.com/fhbwvQbz
[16:47] <mdg2> gps23: I mean terminal from the desktop
[16:47] <jud> gps23: i had a txt file with emails 1 per line but when i paste them into the address field, it comes back that couldn't send because of format error. r2pashto gave me this if so, try "sed -e 's/$/,/g' < file1 > file2" and pasting from that second file instead. If that doesn't work, try "sed -e 's/$/;/g' < file1 > file2" instead. So i did that, with a new yahoo account, with less than 100 emails and it triggered the spam filter. any ideas?
[16:47] <quilby> description is in a comment
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: hey, you want to try aweather out at all? or you think it's just for farmers? hehe
[16:48] <remaxim> just installed ubuntu 10.04 and having some small problem: I can't make the gnome panels transparent
[16:48] <Guest6673> I can't connect to internet from puppylinux even though I set up everything right. This is a widely known bug and I couldn't find a solution anywhere. I'm wondering if I copy the /etc/resolv.conf file and a few other needed configuration files to puppylinux, will I be able to connect?
[16:48] <compaq> remaxim, hehe, right click it and hit properties
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: i could try to send it to you if your interested
[16:48] <remaxim> I can only make the free space of the panels transparent (by right-clicking on it, coloring it and adding transparency)
[16:48] <tmas> I can boot from usb, but it didn't ask to install grub.
[16:49] <Daekdroom> remaxim, some themes won't allow transparency
[16:49] <remaxim> compaq, yeah xD ... I guessed so :P
[16:49] <Guest6673> I mean will it work If i copy the setting from one linux distro to another? (forget  puppy)
[16:49] <Malabi> Ehm, I tried to boot Ubuntu 10.04 from the CD, but the screen just went all black and nothing happened. Does anyone know what might be the problem?
[16:49] <tmas> I'm back at the fantastic broken console
[16:49] <quilby> can someone please fix my 5 line bash script--- http://pastebin.com/fhbwvQbz
[16:49] <remaxim> Daekdroom, I tried some already ... how to find one that allows it?
[16:49] <compaq> remaxim, you know what, do you have desktop effects enabled?  If so you should do apt-get install cairo-dock, you will love it, and you will forget about transparent
[16:49] <remaxim> or is there any way to fix that?
[16:49] <quilby> its not working.....
[16:49] <perhamlinux> hi, e17 is not in lucid's repositories. only e16 is. how can I install e17?
[16:49] <Daekdroom> remaxim, it shouldn't use a texture in the panel, otherwise it can't be made fully transparent
[16:49] <mdg2> tmas: broken console?
[16:50] <bastidrazor> remaxim: cairo-dock can run without compiz and still be transparent.. cairo-dock -c
[16:50] <tmas> not really broken console, just looks like one.
[16:50] <t4m1n0_> I've added the ppa repository like this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates I've made an uppdate: sudo apt-get update. Now.. How can I install newer version of already installed package? I would like to upgrade intel drivers. How can I do this? on this page there is xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.11.0 but how can I install it? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates I mean I've added the PPA repository as said before. Any idea
[16:50] <mdg2> tmas: do you mean busybox?
[16:50] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:50] <tmas> I don't think so...
[16:50] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: I did too...
[16:50] <compaq> bastidrazor, yeah, can just use metacity
[16:50] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: nothing to upgrade
[16:50] <compaq> it will turn it on itself
[16:51] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, it's possible that PPA doesn't have anything you can upgrade to
[16:51] <perhamlinux>  hi, e17 is not in lucid's repositories. only e16 is. how can I install e17? (enlightenment)
[16:51] <tmas> I mean that I have a black screen with a blinking white cursor.
[16:51] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: and the dpkg -l *intel shows ii  xserver-xorg-video- 2:2.9.1-3ubuntu5    X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver which is still the old  version
[16:51] <remaxim> Daekdroom, thanks ... are there any standard themes that should support it, as none of my standard theme allow the menu and other stuff to become transparent
[16:51] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: it does look at the link
[16:51] <mdg2> tmas: what were you trying to do?
[16:51] <compaq> tmas, doesn osx boot?
[16:51]  * remaxim having a look at cairo dock btw... but only as additional stuff
[16:51] <quilby> does anyone here know bash?
[16:51] <quilby> common its 1 line
[16:51] <quilby> :(
[16:51] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: let say I wanna downgrade
[16:51] <quilby> my script isnt working http://pastebin.com/fhbwvQbz
[16:51] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: I'll try to downgrade the driver now.. it should offer me older version right?
[16:52] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, you can use force version in that case
[16:52] <tmas> I does, yes.
[16:52] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, Not sure how you do that in CLI
[16:52] <tmas> I know bash
[16:52] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: how :| don't really know how to
[16:52] <quilby> tmas
[16:52] <tmas> noth much though
[16:52] <Guest6673> Hello? Will iporting network setting from another OS (ubuntu) allow me to connect to net in another linux distro?
[16:52] <quilby> can you look at my script
[16:52] <Daekdroom> t4m1n0_, I'd use synaptic to do that
[16:52] <quilby> http://pastebin.com/fhbwvQbz
[16:52] <t4m1n0_> Daekdroom: I need CLI, I'm tryong to get X working :D
[16:52] <quilby> its not big
[16:52] <tmas> I did.
[16:52] <FloodBot1> quilby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <jud> sed -e 's/$/,/g' < file1 > file2
[16:52] <mdg2> tmas: having problems starting X?
[16:52] <tmas> Don't understand the part that would probably be broken
[16:52] <digital1> hi for all
[16:52] <compaq> tmas, so what do you do to get the blank screen with the cursor?
[16:53] <digital1> because on boot i see: An error occurred while mounting /proc/bus/usb Press S skip mounting or M for manual recovery. I want skip for ever
[16:53] <tmas> mdg2: nothing starts.
[16:53] <quilby> tmas thanks though
[16:53] <remaxim> Daekdroom, my bad ... thanks a lot :)
[16:53] <mdg2> tmas: what were you expecting to start?
[16:53] <perhamlinux> quilby: "$#" = "2"  should be "$#" == "2"
[16:53] <tmas> compaq: I try to boot into linux. I select it from rEFIt.
[16:53] <tmas> mdg2: I was trying to start the computer. I don't even get a working command prompt.
[16:54] <compaq> tmas, did you edit rEFIT?
[16:54] <jud> can someone explain what the different bits in this do?  sed -e 's/$/,/g'
[16:54] <mdg2> tmas: is this a PPC or intel mac?
[16:54] <tmas> intel
[16:54] <tmas> compaq: I don't have any idea what you're talking about.
[16:55] <perhamlinux>  hi, e17 is not in lucid's repositories. only e16 is. how can I install e17? (enlightenment)
[16:55] <compaq> tmas, well, how did linux come to be in the rEFIT, cause Ubuntu doesn't edit it
[16:55] <tmas> rEFIt detects operating systems. It detected ubuntu.
[16:55] <mdg2> tmas: if its PPC, did you get the PPC version of ubuntu (either live cd or alternate)?
[16:56] <tmas> It's intel.
[16:56] <reya2276> How can I tell what version of XUL runner is install?
[16:56] <mdg2> tmas: press the tab key and see what options you get
[16:56] <Daekdroom> reya2276, xulrunner -v
[16:56] <Daekdroom> reya2276, altho it's possible that more than one xulrunner version is installed
[16:56] <quilby> perhamlinux thanks i will try
[16:56] <tmas> mdg2: When? In rEFIt?
[16:56] <mdg2> yes
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> jud: i think it would substitute(replace)..   $  for a   ,    characters in a file. try this command --> man sed
[16:56] <tmas> Ok. Rebooting...
[16:57] <reya2276> Daekdroom: oh could this be causing eclipse to freeze and hang?
[16:57] <digital1> because on boot i see: An error occurred while mounting /proc/bus/usb Press S skip mounting or M for manual recovery. I want skip for ever
[16:57] <Daekdroom> reya2276, if it's the repository version, that's unlikely
[16:57] <tmas> Doesn't do anything.
[16:57] <reya2276> Daekdroom: I have found several bug entries on the web which point to this
[16:57] <unop> jud, it replaces the end-of-line with a comma
[16:57] <compaq> tmas, they say it doesn't work too well with external drives http://refit.sourceforge.net/help/usb_disk.html
[16:57] <reya2276> Daekdroom; yes is the repository version
[16:58] <tmas> I know.
[16:58] <JakeGrover> How can I easily' change DNS settings for a wireless network?
[16:58] <reya2276> Daekdroom: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=304718
[16:58] <tmas> But it detects it and attemps to boot.
[16:58] <froglet> can I use the 64 bit ISO for Ubuntu to install on a laptop having Intel 64 bit?
[16:58] <tmas> Is it possible to build grub and put it on a CD to boot from?
[16:58] <reya2276> Daekdroom: I've been trying to fix this since yesterday without any luck
[16:58] <jud> unop: that's what i wanted to do. what would man in front do?
[16:58] <xiaoyang> hello
[16:58] <froglet> it is for AMD but I have Intel
[16:59] <FotherMucker> Hello everybody
[16:59] <unop> jud, onetinsoldier was referring you to the manual for sed with 'man sed'
[16:59] <xangua> JakeGrover: in network manager preferences
[16:59] <xiaoyang> hello
[16:59] <reya2276> Daekdroom: I want to remove XUL runner to see if this fixes the issue but I'm scare as to what that might do to my system
[16:59] <xiaoyang> hello
[16:59] <Muzer> reya2276: xulrunner is the rendering engine for Firefox
[17:00] <reya2276> Daekdroom: I need to get this working cause this is how I make a living, if not bills wont get paid
[17:00] <Daekdroom> reya2276, If it affects eclipse, you might aswell be unable to run it without xulrunner
[17:00] <onetinsoldier> unop: thanks for the help there unop. been too many eons since i've used sed. i've forgotten it
[17:00] <JakeGrover> Oh, so System>Preferences>Network Connections?
[17:00] <reya2276> Muzer: oh damn
[17:01] <reya2276> ok does anyone know of a good IDE where I can edit coldfusion, PHP and HTML without a problem?
[17:01] <geekyogi> I've this issue with security in the new Ubuntu Lucid Lynx.. When I try to execute any .jar, or wine, or anyother executable file.. it throws an error.. that it was not marked as executable.
[17:01] <compaq> tmas, if you remove eRFIT willl the apple bootloader come back?
[17:01] <JakeGrover> See, when I go to edit the settings for a network, there is no place where yoiu can enter I.P. addresses for DNS.
[17:01] <t4m1n0_> ok now I'm really confused: When Trying to remove ppa repository: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-update I get PPA tp be removed: ubuntu-x-swat x-updates Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: ubuntu-x-swat x-updates
[17:02] <t4m1n0_> Does that mean I didn't add properly x-updates?
[17:02] <tmas> The apple bootloader is still there.
[17:02] <unop> geekyogi, what's the exact error message you receive?
[17:02] <jud> unop: thanks...on that learning curve. the reason i needed to do that was to change list details so that yahoo would recognise their format in the address field but when i put the newly formed ones in, it triggered the spam filter for some reason. the yahoo limit is 100 right, and it was less than that. you have any ideas why?
[17:02] <t4m1n0_> argh and therefore I can't finds the right version of intel drivers?
[17:02] <tmas> I can use c to boot from cd and such.
[17:03] <reya2276> Muzer: what would be the path to XULRunner (XULRunnerPath)
[17:03] <geekyogi> The file '/home1/geekyogi/Tally9/file.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:03] <unop> jud, I'm not sure what to make of that -- are you talking about yahoo mail and the number of address you can place in the "To", "CC" and "BCC" fields?
[17:03] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: right click on file, properties, permissions, there is a checkbox to allow you to execute file
[17:04] <geekyogi> I've this issue with security in the new Ubuntu Lucid Lynx.. When I try to execute any .jar, or wine, or anyother executable file.. it throws an error.. that it was not marked as executable...... The file '/home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:04] <hellz_bellz> I plugged in a usb dongle and my computer halted and now the usb ports dont work but they have power
[17:04] <geekyogi> cjdevlin: i've done tat
[17:04] <jud> unop:  yeah, between the fields, there was less than 100 total so...?
[17:04] <tmas> I'm gonna try to make a boot cd now.
[17:04] <Muzer> reya2276: I would guess /usr/lib/xulrunner-version - where version is the version you've got (1.9.2.3 for me)
[17:04] <geekyogi> i've also marked it executable by using chmod 777 filename..
[17:04] <Muzer> I'm not quite sure why it's not found it automatically though
[17:05] <compaq> tmas, I think you should remove eRIT and instead add usb boot option to the apple boot loader
[17:05] <hellz_bellz> it would be safer to mark it chmod +x
[17:05] <reya2276> Muzer: How come there are 3 directories with xulrunner in /usr/lib?
[17:05] <tmas> how would I do that?
[17:05] <hellz_bellz> instead of makint it belong to every one
[17:05] <cjdevlin> are you trying to run it from the command line?
[17:05] <oCean_> !who | cjdevlin tmas
[17:05] <reya2276> Muzer: yeap is the same version I have as well
[17:06] <unop> jud, i'm not sure what the limit is - i've not used yahoo mail in ages.  My guess is that your sed hasn't worked - I.e. in effect, the sed command has only placed a comma at the end-of-line and not actually taken the newlines out
[17:06] <tmas> ubottu: ok. Sorry.
[17:06] <geekyogi> any help.. how to make executable file not throw this error "The file '/home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[17:06] <unop> geekyogi, yes, you need to set the executable bit on the .exe - it's as a precaution.  you do that with.   chmod +x /path/to/file
[17:06] <compaq> tmas, that link I showed you, you just add the one little section, looked pretty easy to me
[17:06] <hellz_bellz> what he said lol
[17:07] <geekyogi> unop: tat doesnt solve the problem
[17:07] <tmas> compaq: That's grub. Not the apple bootloader.
[17:07] <geekyogi> unop: it doesnt thro the message.. but it doesnt execute the file..
[17:07] <jud> unop: they were all still on seperate lines. but not seperated by one. is that what you mean?
[17:07] <compaq> tmas, I got your back, check this out http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnMacbook
[17:07] <Curly_Q> Hellz Bellz have you tried to re-boot the box with the dongle plugged in first instead of plugging in the dongle after re-booting?
[17:07] <mustafa> i am using ubuntu 10.04 but when i want to start with kde not gnome, black screen appears. is there any missing software for black screen?
[17:07] <oCean_> geekyogi: what does not execute the file? Wine you mean?
[17:07] <unop> geekyogi, you still get the problem after setting it executable?
[17:07] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: what do you get fomr the following command? --> file /home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe
[17:07] <reya2276> Muzer: I'm wondering that maybe because I have 3 dir with xulrunner is whats causing the hangups for eclipse
[17:08] <compaq> tmas, oh, I see, I will search for you the apple boot loader configuration for usb boot
[17:08] <unop> jud, well, that was a guess - the problem could be elsewhere.   what does this command give you on the file?    wc -l /path/to/file
[17:08] <tmas> compaq: thanks.
[17:08] <lethu> mustafa, did you freshly install kde ?
[17:09] <geekyogi> oCean_ yes..  am using wine,, well.. it shows the same error for .jar java runtime files too.. unop: yes.. even after makin it executable, onetinsoldier: its executed using wine, but same issue with jar files too
[17:09] <Muzer> reya2276: I'm not sure to be honest
[17:09] <BluesKaj> mustafa, I have to ask the obvious , Is kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[17:09] <mustafa> lethu, no.
[17:09] <Muzer> eclipse just works for me
[17:09] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: what do you get from the following command? --> file /home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe
[17:09] <uLinux> hello I installed samba... so now I have ports 139 and 445 opened. How can I disable the service that uses it? "sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop" doesn't work
[17:09] <Muzer> did you get it from the repository, reya2276, or somewhere else?
[17:09] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: see this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9213444
[17:09] <mustafa> BluesKaj, no.
[17:09] <oCean_> geekyogi: wine support in #winehq
[17:09] <mustafa> BluesKaj, should i?
[17:10] <compaq> tmas, here is what you asking for earlier http://www.ehow.com/how_2138434_ubuntu-boot-disk.html
[17:10] <lethu> mustafa, you have to install kde prior to using it
[17:10] <uLinux> I dont want to remove samba.. just disable it
[17:10] <reya2276> Muzer: right but do have all kinds of plugins installed? cause maybe it could be one of the plugins causing the issue
[17:10] <knoxville_> What program are you using to develop c#?
[17:10] <geekyogi> oCean: well the issue prevails for .jar files too
[17:10] <mustafa> lethu, it exists in software center doesnt it?
[17:10] <jud> unop: so if i'm in the directory already, id just go wc-l/to/file ?
[17:11] <oCean_> geekyogi: a jar is just an archive right?
[17:11] <Muzer> reya2276: No, only flash
[17:11] <unop> jud,  wc -l file   # note the spaces
[17:11] <geekyogi> oCean_ nope.. its Java runtime file
[17:11] <Curly_Q> uLinux use this command:     sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[17:11] <BluesKaj> mustafa, then drop to a tty, ctrl+alt+f1 run sudo service gdm stop ,and install kubuntu-desktop, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the desktop
[17:11] <unop> geekyogi,  ah - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Policies # towards the bottom with "Execute-Permission Bit Required"
[17:11] <compaq> tmas, http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t14185.html
[17:11] <reya2276> Muzer: oh no I meant plugins for eclipse
[17:11] <lethu> I haven't been using ubuntu dist since a long while, in other distro's I have tried you can install any desktop manager you wish alongside others
[17:12] <lethu> mustafa, @ you
[17:12] <uLinux> Curly_Q you didnt read my previous msg
[17:12] <blackstar> hi, anyone know how to enable vertical scrolling on a toshiba Satellite laptop ?
[17:12] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: what do you get from the following command? --> file /home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe
[17:12] <Muzer> reya2276: Oh, no, not many
[17:13] <Curly_Q> uLinux why do you want to disable those ports?
[17:13] <geekyogi> onetinsoldier: it works fine via TTY shell
[17:13] <reya2276> Muzer: ok thanks, let try adding a line to the eclipse.ini file and see if this fixes the issue
[17:13] <uLinux> Curly_Q because i dont like to have open ports
[17:13] <geekyogi> unop: ah.. tats exactly is the problem..
[17:13] <uLinux> im gonna try something
[17:13] <geekyogi> unop: thanx.. lemme try the instructions..
[17:14] <Curly_Q> Good point. But make sure that any other application doesn't need those ports first.
[17:14] <mustafa> BluesKaj, should i install kubuntu-desktop? or have to?
[17:14] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: oh, ok. hmmm. i'll have to look at that link unop gave then i guess
[17:14] <jud> unop: it tells me the number of emails right? i'm not a spamer. i'm trying to get a message out to people making submissions to a newsletter asap
[17:14] <geekyogi> onetinsoldier: yes.. tats the security issue..
[17:15] <BluesKaj> mustafa, if you want to run kde , yes...kubuntu is kde on ubuntu , and the kde desktop isknown as kubuntu-desktop
[17:15] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-desktop | mustafa
[17:15] <blackstar> hi, anyone know how to enable vertical scrolling on a toshiba Satellite laptop on lucid ?
[17:15] <jud> unop: what email do you use?
[17:16] <xelent> how to crack the wep password??
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: ok, on the link that unop gave, one of the stipulations is... located in a user's home directory or temporary directory. have you tried putting it /usr/local/bin?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> !hack | xelent
[17:16] <geekyogi> onetinsoldier: k.. lemme move it there and try
[17:17] <compaq> tmas, what boot loader do you have, what is your os?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> !illegal | xelent
[17:17] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: Heh - I was kidding about aweather being useful only to farmers, I have it up on freshmeat now (I was gone for a while)
[17:17] <tmas> compaq: 10.6.3 snow leopard, don't know bootloader
[17:17] <Curly_Q> uLinux check out this site right here:    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/how-to-close-ports-1515/
[17:17] <unop> jud, well, that tells you how many entries are in the file - counted by line
[17:17] <unop> jud, I use gmail
[17:18] <blackstar> on Lucid, i can't not dim my screem using the FN on my toshiba satellite laptop, anyone how ?
[17:18] <xelent> clear
[17:18] <blackstar> on Lucid, i can't not dim my screem using the FN keys on my toshiba satellite laptop, anyone how ?
[17:18] <tmas> compaq: I don't understand why you posted the insanelymac thread
[17:18] <lxsys> xelnet: perhaps ASK for the password from the owner?
[17:18] <jud> unop: yeah, it's the same as the number of emails
[17:18] <JoshuaL> all of the sudden notify-osd doesnt show the notify for changing the screen brightness, it did this before as it should be
[17:18] <geekyogi> unop: onetinsoldier: nope.. didnt work
[17:18] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: hi! hehe. cool. you'll want to go to the app's hope page/wiki if you are even starting to think of trying to compile it. even then, i triple dare ya to get it to compile! :P
[17:18] <jud> unop: one per line, with a comma at the end
[17:19] <greezmunkey> blackstar: google toshset - it's a utility that *may* help you - read all about it before using (std. disclaimer)
[17:19] <blackstar> ok thanks
[17:19] <unop> jud, try using all emails on one line instead?    tr -d '\n' < file > newfile
[17:19] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me get my mic (standard line-in microphone) to work in ubuntu? The input works, I've tested it on windows 7 but on ubuntu I just get strange sounds in
[17:19] <geekyogi> unop: didnt work.. :(
[17:19] <compaq> tmas, darwinesq bootloader.. which also has the above three options.  mac can boot ubuntu
[17:19] <tmas> compaq: also, the boot disk is for windows.
[17:19] <Sunderphon> Just white noise, really
[17:20] <onetinsoldier> geekyogi: roger. i don't know
[17:20] <blackstar> greezumkey thanks, on Karmic the scrolluing work out of the box, i only have this issue with Lucid
[17:20] <unop> geekyogi, where did you put the file?
[17:20] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: what is the output of: ls -l <filename>
[17:20] <geekyogi> unop: /
[17:21] <unop> geekyogi, and how did you attempt to run it?
[17:21] <geekyogi> cjdevlin: its permission is set to 777
[17:21] <AhmedBH> how do i  get started with mysql on lucid , I am new to it
[17:21] <geekyogi> unop: using sudo nautilus
[17:21] <AhmedBH> need a quick start :P
[17:21] <unop> geekyogi, :o
[17:21] <geekyogi> unop: ?
[17:22] <unop> geekyogi, do as cjdevlin asked and post the ouput here
[17:22] <jud> unop: they should have a space after the comma to shouldn't they?
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: i am will to try and send you my .debs if you want to run it. it took me a long time to figure out how to get it compiled, but it was worth it :)
[17:22] <geekyogi> unop: ok..
[17:22] <unop> jud, not necessarily, but yea, good idea
[17:22] <geekyogi> The file '/home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:22] <geekyogi> unop: The file '/home1/geekyogi/Tally9/tally9.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:23] <geekyogi> unop: its a wine executable file..
[17:23] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: that would take all the fun out of it for me! (It's not that I don't trust you, but you know how it is) :)
[17:23] <geekyogi> unop: but i get similar error for .jar files too.
[17:23] <imaginativeone_> how do I move my ubuntu settings?
[17:24] <Curly_Q> GreezMunkey good to see you again. How are you today?
[17:24] <unop> geekyogi, mate, you keep repeating that - we are aware of what the problem is.  can you post the output of ls -l /file ?
[17:24] <leeyi> hello
[17:24] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: I'm good, you? Just wishin' the sun was out.
[17:24] <raven> 10.04 how to use the OLD SOFTWARE-CENTER
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: roger, i understand. i think that i am going to try to eventually figure out how to package it and put it on a ppa anyway. it'll be untrusted there as well :-) . but yes, i certainly understand taking the fun out of it! i know what you mean! if you want me to talk you through it, i am willing to do that too ;-)
[17:25] <mrpttohd> Hello I am trying to install ruby 1.9 from apt but ruby-full is defaulting to 1.8. Is there a way I can force ruby-full to use 1.9 ?
[17:25] <remaxim> my log is too short, but someone in here adviced me to try cairo-dock. It looks great, but I can't get it to show me what windows I have open so I can switch between them
[17:25] <Curly_Q> GreezMunkey, the sun is out here. I am doing fine thanks. Keeping busy as always. Just helping the folks here.
[17:25] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I may take you up on that, thanks.
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: roger, cheers
[17:25] <wildc4rd> evenin' all!
[17:26] <geekyogi> unop: ah.. sorry.. k.. here it is..  "free@free:~/.wine/drive_c/tally/Tally9$ ls -ltrh tally9.exe
[17:26] <geekyogi> -rwxrwxrwx 1 free free 2.5M 2008-09-11 14:25 tally9.exe
[17:26] <geekyogi> free@free:~/.wine/drive_c/tally/Tally9$
[17:26] <geekyogi> "
[17:26] <FloodBot1> geekyogi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <geekyogi> oope
[17:26] <geekyogi> oops
[17:26] <Curly_Q> GreezMunkey, you are from Australia?
[17:26] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: yea, that's it (no Oregon)
[17:26] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Hey guys
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> hi
[17:26] <TheSexyTomWebDev> How are you lot?
[17:26] <Curly_Q> OK.
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> cool
[17:26] <Curly_Q> :)
[17:26] <TheSexyTomWebDev> So, how do i make a website?
[17:27] <notcam> morning!
[17:27] <scarra3> Hey how do I setup Iphone support in ubuntu 10.04 I plugged mine in and nothing happened
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Listen up: how do i make a webstie?
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> im a retard
[17:27] <JoshuaL> !hello | TheSexyTomWebDev
[17:27] <kitply> hello, i have recently installed the ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. i just finished installing the mtpfs (fuse) for mounting my samsung ypu2j model mp3 player. I used the command line 'mtpfs -o allow_user /home/kishore/Music/samsung', but when i try to access the folder i get a message like 'bash: cd: samsung: Transport endpoint is not connected'.can anyone help me on this
[17:27] <JoshuaL> !offtopic | TheSexyTomWebDev
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> hellooooo?!
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> HELOOOO
[17:27] <xelent> will somebody send me the newest tor??
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> YOU ARE ALL IGNORING ME?!
[17:27] <FloodBot1> TheSexyTomWebDev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> WHY
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> BUT I WANT TO FLOOD
[17:27] <notcam> tom, shoosh
[17:27] <TheSexyTomWebDev> IT SAID DONT FLOOR
[17:27] <unop> geekyogi, the file is still in your homedirectory - and that's not going to circumvent the security policy.
[17:27] <geekyogi> unop: ls -ltrh gives  "tally9.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 free free 2.5M 2008-09-11 14:25 tally9.exe"
[17:27] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: that still seems like the file is in your wine directory under your home directory. have you tried moving the file as was suggested?
[17:28] <notcam> you'll get kicked lol
[17:28] <greezmunkey> TheSexyTomWebDev: start with <head>, then add tags from there. Seriously, there are *lots* of tutorials on the web.
[17:28] <overmind> !ops | TheSexyTomWebDev is trolling
[17:28] <geekyogi> unop: oh yeah.. i did tat.. lemme output for /
[17:28] <TheSexyTomWebDev> WTF?
[17:28] <TheSexyTomWebDev> FUCK YOU
[17:28] <TheSexyTomWebDev> NO
[17:28] <FloodBot1> TheSexyTomWebDev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <istvan_> I had two speeker icons in my toolbars, and after deleting one of them both of my toolbars load, then disappear, then load again and again. restarting doesn't help. how can I fix this?
[17:28] <unop> !ops | TheSexyTomWebDev being mindless
[17:29] <jud> unop:  well, thanks. i'll see how i go later
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> thank you Tm_T
[17:30] <JoeMan777> hello all. I'm experiencing a weird problem with dvd playback. I have ubuntu restricted-extras package installed. Although, Mplayer says "Could not read source." And Vlc opens up a viewing window, but then it quickly disappears. Any suggestions?
[17:30] <tmas> compaq: Could I build grub and configure it in a folder, then burn to a CD?
[17:30] <crankharder> this config, saved in /etc/init/god.conf, doesn't start god on startup - http://pastie.org/973453 -- I even added "start on startup" and nothin -- everything else seems to be fine, starting, stopping, respawning are fine but only after I manually start it myself the first time -- any ideas what i'm doin wrong?
[17:31] <mneptok> JoeMan777: commercial, ecrypted DVDs?
[17:31] <mrpttohd> I solved my own problem. In case anybody else had the problem you can use ruby1.9.1-full instead of ruby-full. Thanks
[17:31] <scarra3> How do you setup the iphone in ubuntu 10.04
[17:31] <JoeMan777> yeah, lol, i wanna get my Arrested Development on and it won't play!
[17:31] <compaq> tmas, I can't figure out how to configure darwin for multi-boot, although it can be done.  But if you install grub to sda, it will boot os/x and ubuntu
[17:31] <tmas> scarra3: No iPhone support on ubuntu. Apple is restrictive.
[17:31] <geekyogi> unop: cjdevlin: free@free:/Tally9$ ls -ltrh tally9.exe  -rwxrwxrwx 1 free root 2.5M 2010-05-23 21:59 tally9.exe
[17:31] <christopher> I've got an idea? is there a service that provides per bug fix donations to developers, a prize pot that anyone could donate to? (or would this be to frustrating to have competition on such a thing)
[17:32] <JoeMan777> i completely removed the package, re-added and installed it, tried different dvds, still the same problem.
[17:32] <unop> geekyogi,  and what happens when you do this?    wine /tally9.exe
[17:32] <scarra3> tmas I saw a video and its listed online saying that you can now connect it and put files on and off of it
[17:32] <raven> 10.04 how to use the OLD SOFTWARE-CENTER
[17:32] <tmas> compaq: Darwin doesn't get configured. On startup, holding down option lets you select an OS.
[17:32] <scarra3> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/confirmed-ubuntu-1004-supports-iphone.html
[17:33] <scarra3> tmas and here is the video
[17:33] <scarra3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGf4i_kxqRU
[17:33] <geekyogi> unop: free@free:/Tally9$ wine tally9.exe  err:menubuilder:WinMain unknown option -a err:menubuilder:WinMain unknown option -r err:module:attach_process_dlls "odbc32.dll" failed to initialize,   aborting err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\Tally9\\tally9.exe" failed, status c0000005..           I guess its the problem with the exe file..
[17:33] <mneptok> JoeMan777: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[17:33] <geekyogi> unop: sorry i think its the exe file
[17:33] <tmas> scarrra3: That's disk mode. Do you have another computer with mac or windows on it? Otherwise you pretty much can't use your iPhone.
[17:33] <geekyogi> unop: which is not proper
[17:33] <istvan_> any ideas on the reolading toolbars?
[17:34] <scarra3> what  do you mean disk mode tmas
[17:34] <lxsys> scarra3: you need to install Paul McEnery's ppa and install libimobiledevice
[17:34] <tmas> In iTunes, you have to enable it.
[17:34] <mcl0vin> question: i have compiled lirc-0.8.7pre1 , but now i want to remove any trace of it how can i do that the safe way please?
[17:34] <Curly_Q> Kitply check these out: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32817                    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651894&page=4                http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7697598
[17:34] <tmas> Which you need mac or windows for.
[17:34] <greezmunkey> istvan_: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[17:35] <geekyogi> unop: but can this security be disabled..? so that i can execute from my home directory..
[17:35] <unop> geekyogi, yea, this sounds like a problem with the file - not with the policy anymore..   note the line saying "odbc32.dll" failed to initialize   -- you might need to copy this file off a windows CD similar into wine's \windows\system32 directory
[17:35] <compaq> tmas, I think it should work, darwin should boot to usb, when you boot up, and hit f8, does an option come up to boot to usb external drive?  If you make sure you install grub on sdb's mbr and it should work fine
[17:35] <Black_Phantom> Best musis splitter for Linux ?
[17:35] <scarra3> tmas I have a computer right now
[17:35] <JoeMan777> mneptok: works now, can you just explain why restricted extras didn't take care of that, is medibuntu better or?
[17:35] <Black_Phantom> music*
[17:35] <unop> geekyogi, perhaps, I'm not sure how
[17:35] <scarra3> that has windows 7
[17:35] <mcl0vin> Ii have compiled lirc-0.8.7pre1 , but now i want to remove any trace of it how can i do that the safe way please?
[17:36] <mneptok> JoeMan777: the command you just ran installs software to decrypt DVDs. that software is illegal in many countries. to avoid legal problems, Ubuntu cannot include it in repos.
[17:36] <Black_Phantom> Music splitter for Linux ?
[17:36] <xelent> I have a problem,my mobilephone,HTC touch diamond 2,how to sync files in lucid??
[17:36] <geekyogi> unop: k.. thanx a lot.. :) and WTF are exe files :P.. have to google to find a way to disable this security issue..
[17:37] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: changing the directory fixed the initial problem, correct? try this for dll files: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?odbc32
[17:37] <CarlFK1> wifi worked in Jaunty, no clue abut karmak, does not work in lucid.  Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
[17:38] <JoeMan777> mneptok: ok, i guess i just thought installing restricted extras would handle it.
[17:38] <realubot> I tried to install neatx-server and all seemed to work just fine until I try to connect. Then I couldn't get any contact. What may be wrong? I'm using the NoMachine client to access my other computer remotely.
[17:38] <twosheds> Hi
[17:39] <geekyogi> cjdevlin: yes it did fix the problem.. but i wanna disable this security on my linux box..
[17:39] <madjoe> Can anyone help me with the VNC setup on my Ubuntu? I just need some hints how to make the setup of port forwarding on my router, and a configuration of my SSH Tunnel Manager...
[17:39] <realubot> How do I check that neatx-server is running at the host?
[17:39] <twosheds> Lots of streaming flash stuff works extremely choppy when in full screen (Youtube for example)
[17:39] <geekyogi> cjdevlin: i know which files i execute..
[17:39] <twosheds> How do I fix this?
[17:39] <mneptok> JoeMan777: you thought wrong ;)
[17:39] <BitEncrypt> does KDE come with 10.04 LTS?
[17:39] <imaginativeone_> how do I move my ubuntu settings?
[17:39] <Gnewt> My do-release-upgrade ends in "could not allocate memory." This is an Ubuntu 9.04 server, trying to upgrade to 9.10.
[17:40] <greezmunkey> JoeMan777: read all about css: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-playback-dvd/
[17:40] <onetinsoldier> BitEncrypt: you could download Kubuntu, or install kde libs and apps in Ubuntu
[17:40] <twosheds> I'll ask again
[17:41] <twosheds> Flash streaming stuff works very choppy in fullscreen. How do I fix this?
[17:41] <pvl1> twosheds, what vid card u have? what flash player u got?
[17:41] <Daekdroom> twosheds, unlikely to be fixed. fullscreen flash streaming takes a lot of CPU power
[17:41] <pvl1> Gnewt, how much free space do u have
[17:41] <Black_Phantom> Music splitter for linux, any1 ?
[17:41] <madjoe> Can anyone help me with the VNC setup on my Ubuntu (Remote Desktop)? I just need some hints how to make the setup of port forwarding on my router, and a configuration of my SSH Tunnel Manager...
[17:41] <twosheds> Darwin4Ever: Works just fine in Windows
[17:42] <Gnewt> pvl1: 77MB of RAM, 13GB of HDD
[17:42] <twosheds> pvl1: I have an nVidia MX4000 I think, or something like that, and how do I see what version flash player I have?
[17:42] <pvl1> Black_Phantom, audacity
[17:42] <greezmunkey> madjoe: haw far have you gone on your own, does it work locally?
[17:42] <cjdevlin> geekyogi: i don't know if it will work, but you might want to look into what a symbolic link does to see if you can convince the system that the files aren't being run from your home directory
[17:42] <Ency> Can somebody give me their opinion on this? Is ubuntu + medibuntu repository supposed to achieve the same thing as linux mint?
[17:42] <mneptok> twosheds: ask Adobe. it's their proprietary plugin. they have to fix the Linux version.
[17:42] <pvl1> twosheds, check synaptic, search for flash and see whats installed
[17:42] <twosheds> pvl1: OK
[17:43] <pvl1> Gnewt, there is no way that a system can upgrade with 77mb of ram
[17:43] <xangua> Ency: no
[17:43] <pvl1> Gnewt, at least not without a large swap and an upgrade cd
[17:43] <onetinsoldier> twosheds: that's like a 12 year old video card, and it wasn't considered a good one even way back then. an MX400 vid card is ancient
[17:43] <madjoe> greezmunkey: unfortunately not... I know how to make por forwarding on my router, just need an instruction from which external port to what internal port
[17:43] <TheSexyTomWebDev> HIHIHHIHIH
[17:43] <Gnewt> pvl1: That's ridiculous
[17:43] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Hey agian :)
[17:43] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Im back
[17:43] <TheSexyTomWebDev> In a sensible form now
[17:43] <TheSexyTomWebDev> I need your help :(
[17:43] <FloodBot1> TheSexyTomWebDev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <bastidrazor> Ency: no idea since Mint is an unsupported derivative of Ubuntu
[17:44] <notcam> hello
[17:44] <pvl1> Gnewt, sorry but thats how it is i guess, why do u need to upgrade to begin with
[17:44] <greezmunkey> madjoe: yeah, You need to get it working locally before worrying about port forwarding your router, that's that last step.
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Yeah you do
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Dont forget to do that last step!
[17:44] <Ency> xangua:  I'm a noob to linux and am using ubuntu ultimate edition.... I got it because I thought it would include everything and I wouldn't have to spend too long figuring out what next I need to download to make it work.... then I discovered that even with UE I had to combine it with medibuntu to play videos and even then not all of them work
[17:44] <bastidrazor> !minstsupport > Ency
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Your a noob
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Oh nice!
[17:44] <twosheds> onetinsoldier: A thousand apologies. It's a GeForce 7300
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Oh is it
[17:44] <TheSexyTomWebDev> mines a GeForce7400
[17:44] <bastidrazor> !mintsupport > Ency
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> twosheds: ahh, roger. no worries
[17:45] <TheSexyTomWebDev> ubottu your weird
[17:45] <twosheds> pvl1: I have a 10.0.45.2-1lucid1
[17:45] <greezmunkey> *dumb* *---* *alert*
[17:45] <Gnewt> pvl1: Because I want access to the LTS version. I don't feel like it matters why I want to upgrade.
[17:45] <twosheds> pvl1: That's what is says next to the adobe-flashplugin package on synaptic
[17:45] <TheSexyTomWebDev> http://cl.ly/14Sl ?
[17:45] <TheSexyTomWebDev> Hahahahaahahahah
[17:45] <Ency> ubottu: i see it but I'm not looking for linux mint support.... I'm just trying to figure out which distro to go with. I won't things to just 'work'
[17:45] <bastidrazor> !ops | TheSexyTomWebDev
[17:45] <pvl1> twosheds, ah u have adobe, gimme a sec
[17:45] <Ency> oh
[17:46] <TheSexyTomWebDev> I work at apple
[17:46] <TheSexyTomWebDev> im really steve jobs
[17:46] <pvl1> Gnewt, i was jw, iddnt mean anything by it, but that is a legit reason to upgrade. gimme a sec in that case
[17:46] <twosheds> pvl1: BTW, it's not choppy on all of them, but on youtube for example it is
[17:46] <bastidrazor> Ency: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org     is where you can get mint support
[17:46] <Gnewt> pvl1: I may just switch to Debian seeing as this is a production server.
[17:46] <twosheds> pvl1: Some streaming stuff works just fine in full screen, although it does respond a bit slow, but plays fine
[17:46] <notcam> yea
[17:46] <Ency> lets frame this another way.... I want as many codecs as possible / want all my videos to work....  other than medibuntu repository what can I download?
[17:47] <Gnewt> pvl1: Seems to be working after I killed console-kit
[17:47] <bastidrazor> Ency: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:47] <cjdevlin> ency: download vlc - it handles pretty much everything you can throw at it
[17:47] <BitEncrypt> VLC?
[17:47] <xangua> !msg ubottu !ultimate
[17:47] <xangua> ups :S
[17:47] <pvl1> Gnewt, well yeah, if u free up -resources it should work. did u mean that u have 77mb total or 77 free
[17:47] <jurgster> hello all
[17:47] <cjdevlin> ency: vls is in the repositories
[17:48] <bastidrazor> Ency: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[17:48] <notcam> #google it
[17:48] <Ency> cjdevlin, bitEncrypt: I have VLC.... it still needs the codecs to run .... I run ubuntu Ultimate Edition ... I will try this restricted extras
[17:48] <greezmunkey> madjoe: start here: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Remote_Access_to_the_Ubuntu_Linux_Desktop
[17:48] <Gnewt> pvl1: 77 free (of 360). It's a VPS, not a dedi.
[17:48] <bastidrazor> Ency: Ultimate is another unsupported derivative.
[17:48] <onetinsoldier> Ency: if you like ffmpeg and h.264, i recommend you take a look at this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[17:48] <jurgster> can noe say why the usb functions in ubuntu 10 dont work like in 9?
[17:48] <madjoe> greezmunkey: thnx
[17:49] <jurgster> # one/anyone
[17:49] <greezmunkey> madjoe: I've worked through that, it works - good luck! :)
[17:49] <pvl1> Gnewt, ooh well 360, yeah if u just kill some apps and services i think you should be able to do an upgrade without issues. do u have swap space enabled?
[17:49] <madjoe> greezmunkey: sweet! ;)
[17:49] <tmas> ubottu: hello!
[17:49] <tmas> ubottu: help
[17:50] <jose> running ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop's second HDD (the first is running Windows 7 Pro). I can't seem to find a fix for hibernate. Suspend works just fine, but Hibernate just makes the scren dark for a sec, then comes back up as the screensaver/login screen. Can anyone help?
[17:50] <pvl1> twosheds, try any (or all) of the flashplugin packages
[17:50] <twosheds> pvl1: "try" as in what, upgrade them?
[17:50] <tmas> ubottu: Wait, ur a bot?
[17:50] <Ency> onetinsoldier: it looks like I have restricted extras installed already.... I have no idea which codecs I want... I wjust want them all.... this is where linux fails for me.. i wanted it to just 'work' :(
[17:50] <pvl1> jose, have u checked the logs
[17:50] <pvl1> twosheds, nay, uninstall adobe-flash and install the one i said previous
[17:50] <twosheds> pvl1: OK
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> Ency: ffmepg might solve your problem
[17:51] <greezmunkey> madjoe: once you get that working locally you can do your port forward. Here's a good command to find what port your programs are listening on: netstat -an -tcp -udp | grep "LISTEN" (scrolling output, gives process and pid, may need sudo) -or- netstat -antu | grep "LISTEN" (consise list)
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> Ency: install ffmpeg and winff
[17:51] <Gnewt> pvl1: Yep I do. It's working now :).
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> Ency: and you might want to look at that link i gave you above
[17:52] <pvl1> Gnewt, congrats!
[17:52] <bastidrazor> greezmunkey: yes, netstat will need sudo to see the PID's and processs
[17:52] <Ency> looking at it now
[17:52] <madjoe> greezmunkey: awesome!
[17:53] <greezmunkey> bastidrazor: I'll update that in my scratch file, thanks - it did need to be clarified :)
[17:53] <Ency> onetinsoldier: it disappoints me that I *have* to use command line... I'm not shy to use it but can I not use synaptic or something else with a GUI
[17:53] <onetinsoldier> Ency: that link is, in case you want the bleeding edge ffmpeg. you can just install the stock lucid version from the repositories too, but it's older
[17:53] <bastidrazor> greezmunkey: netstat -napt   .. the P syntax .. will show PID/Processes
[17:53] <jose> pvl1: um, don't know what that means. I tried looking it up and tried the sudo s2disk/s2ram thing, this happens:This machine can be identified by:
[17:53] <jose>     sys_vendor   = "Gateway                         "
[17:53] <jose>     sys_product  = "MD7818U                         "
[17:53] <jose>     sys_version  = "Rev 1                   "
[17:53] <jose>     bios_version = "99.06   "
[17:53] <FloodBot1> jose: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <jose> See http://suspend.sf.net/s2ram-support.html for details.
[17:53] <Mene-Mene> I can't seem to find Opera in the repositories. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit.
[17:53] <greezmunkey> bastidrazor: how's this: netstat -an -tcp -udp | grep "LISTEN" (scrolling output, use sudo to see process and pid)
[17:54] <onetinsoldier> Ency: that's where 'winff' comes in. you can compile the lastest bleeding edge of ffmpeg and x.264 at that link.. then use 'winff' as gui front-end
[17:54] <bastidrazor> greezmunkey: that will do it.
[17:54] <pvl1> jose, yt?
[17:55] <raven> how to MOUNT a windows partition automatically at startup?
[17:55] <pvl1> raven, add it to ur /etc/fstab
[17:55] <pvl1> !fstab
[17:55] <jose> pvl1: yt? what is that?
[17:55] <MrNibbles> hey guys, i have an e-sata drive that appears in my places list, but it doenst mount till i click on it
[17:55] <Ency> onetinsoldier: I just checked synaptic and I have ffmpeg installed
[17:55] <MrNibbles> i would quite like to keep the hot swappable-ness of it, how can i get it to mount on each boot?
[17:55] <bastidrazor> raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[17:56] <raven> pvl1, how?
[17:56] <Muzer> OK
[17:56]  * madjoe is having a dinner. *short break* brb
[17:56] <Ency> onetinsoldier: I'm used to simply installing a codec pack or two on windows machines that contain everything.... not like that with linux?
[17:56] <onetinsoldier> Ency: roger. if you're not familair with installing software from source, just use the Lucid stock ffmpeg and x.264
[17:56] <pvl1> !fstab | raven
[17:56] <onetinsoldier> Ency: it's older though, that's all
[17:57] <onetinsoldier> Ency: just install 'winff' right now and check it out
[17:57] <twosheds> pvl1: OK, I uninstalled adobe-flashp[lugin and installed flashplugin-installer. Unfortunately, it didn't help. Youtube runs uber choppy in full screen, and makes it nearly impossible to leave full screen, as it effectively freezes the browser (which is firefox, if I didn't say so before)
[17:57] <greezmunkey> mneptok: I read that article regarding css - I did not know about that. Thanks.
[17:57] <pvl1> twosheds, have u tried to DISABLE hardware acceleration in the flash settings
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> twosheds: what gpu btw?
[17:58] <twosheds> pvl1: And.. How do I do that (excuse my silly questions, I'm new to linux)?
[17:58] <twosheds> aether: GeForce 7300
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> twosheds: right click on the flash video
[17:58] <Ency> onetinsoldier: sorry if I missed something... how do I install winff??   its not in synaptic and the link you sent seems to only talk about ffmpeg
[17:58] <aether> I'm sorry?
[17:59] <aeon-ltd> twosheds: proprietry drivers or the open source nouveau ones?
[17:59] <shiba_> netbook edition, way too locked
[17:59] <twosheds> pvl1: Well, that SOLVED it. Thanks!
[17:59] <twosheds> pvl1: Nice to learn something new.
[17:59] <pvl1> twosheds, i had the same problem, glad to know u got it running
[17:59] <aeon-ltd> shiba_: unr seems a bit crap don't you think?, compared to just using regular ubuntu but stripped down  little
[17:59] <AnxiousNut> how can i update my openoffice fonts list?
[18:00] <onetinsoldier> Ency: hmmm, it should be in synaptic i think. anyway, i know command line way to install it. i use the command line a lot. at command line, you can check it apt sees it with...  apt-cache show winff
[18:00] <twosheds> pvl1: OK, so maybe we can use the momentum and solve a much more difficult problem.
[18:00] <twosheds> pvl1: (Unrelated to that one).
[18:00] <onetinsoldier> Ency: but i suppose that won't work if you don't see it in synaptic, but try it
[18:01] <Ency> onetinsoldier: thats another thing. With my distro I have three terminals. Well two called terminal and one called terminator.... anything I should know about the difference?
[18:01] <pepie34> Hi how is it possible to add applet to the ubuntu netbook remix bar ? (namely lock-key-applet for eeepc)
[18:01] <klawd> has one of you managed to replace the new ugly purple icons with the humanity brownish ones?
[18:01] <SwedeMike> klawd: change the theme.
[18:02] <onetinsoldier> Ency: not really. i wouldn't worry about the differences between terminals too much right now. there's a lot of different terminals for linux you can choose from
[18:02] <twosheds> pvl1: I have a webcam, it's a Creative VF3300 Vista. It refuses to work with Skype and anything else. Just to jump ahead, I tried installing the manual stuff on the net, but it won't compile, and I'm afraid it's because my ubuntu's too new for it. Is there any chance there's another way, or do I just have to wait until someone writes one for this Ubuntu's kernel?
[18:02] <Ency> onetinsoldier: couldnt find package
[18:03] <viesturs> hi everybody - does somebody have a script to connect wifi over CLI
[18:03] <Ency> onetinsoldier: i had to do sudo apt-get install winff and it read and did dependecies but ends with couldnt find package
[18:03] <onetinsoldier> Ency: ok, you must not have some repository enabled on your system that i do here on mine
[18:03] <aeon-ltd> viesturs: look up iwconfig
[18:03] <viesturs> i now what is iwconfig
[18:03] <Ency> onetinsoldier: :( :( sucks
[18:03] <viesturs> the problem is with WPA
[18:03] <onetinsoldier> Ency: hmmm, that sounds a little strange
[18:03] <raven> grub edit - how to boot windows automatically instead of ubuntu?
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> viesturs: if you like cli, theres a ncurses version of wicd
[18:04] <klawd> SwedeMike: that doesn't change the icons
[18:04] <viesturs> i mean, with wpa_suplicant
[18:04] <badnaam> Can someone help me with a flash player issue. It's flash version 10.5.4 at espn3 and I am on Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:38:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:04] <greezmunkey> raven: make your win partition the default (on timeout)
[18:04] <pvl1> twosheds, how r u so assured that ur systems too new. what errors do u get in compiling
[18:04] <onetinsoldier> Ency: hang on a minute.. ok?
[18:04] <Ency> onetinsoldier:  i know I broke my sources.list .... I replaced it with contents I saw on the internet because I was trying to get kismet to work at some point when I was trying to borrow some internet from my neighbour (I never got it to work and now have my own)
[18:04] <raven> greezmunkey, how?
[18:04] <Ency> sure :)
[18:04] <badnaam> The full screen doesn't work, is it only me or others are having the same issue too?
[18:04] <guntbert> !u | pvl1
[18:04] <void__> Ubuntu uses the wrong proxy. How can I change that for Synaptic?
[18:04] <SwedeMike> klawd: mk, my icons aren't purple anyway.
[18:05] <viesturs> is there way how to connect to WPA wifi by using wpa_cli ?
[18:05] <void__> I already changed it in the configuration for Synaptic, but it still uses the wrong configuration.
[18:05] <aeon-ltd> badnaam: what DE/WM you using?
[18:05] <twosheds> pvl1: Like code stuff, like it won't compile this line or the other, and it's a whole string of them. I followed the directions to the letter, and it won't compile whatsoever. This webcam is known to have problems with ubuntu, but this driver's supposed to fix it. Nonetheless, it seems like it won't compile.
[18:06] <guntbert> void__: that seems one of the cases where it helps to logout/login (or eveven restart the system) - no idea why it is so
[18:06] <greezmunkey> raven: I have just started learning grub, if you /msg ubottu grub, it will pm you a link to the wiki - best source of info available.
[18:06] <badnaam> sorry I am nood, what is DE/WM?
[18:06] <twosheds> pvl1: Is there like a website/forum that specializes on this stuff, like OpenPrinting?
[18:06] <rabbit1> how to play online games?
[18:07] <aeon-ltd> badnaam: is desktop environment like gnome(in stock ubuntu) window manager like openbox
[18:07] <guntbert> badnaam: desktop environment / window manager
[18:07] <onetinsoldier> Ency: you 'will' need to get your sources.list problem sorted out and fixed. anyway, go here --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/winff  ...at the very bottom of the page on the left, download the .deb package
[18:07] <tasty> yo
[18:07] <RandomTime> rabbit1: what games do you want to play?
[18:07] <rabbit1> problem with flash player and shockwave player
[18:07] <pvl1> twosheds, sorta. first off, how recent is ur webcam. secondly what kind of errors do u get. do u have any expereince with programming?
[18:07] <tasty> investigating
[18:07] <rabbit1> RandomTime: online games....
[18:07] <badnaam> oh yes, it's gnome, the standard that came with 9.1 installation
[18:07] <RandomTime> rabbit1: that helps, thanks
[18:07] <badnaam> and of course, I am using firefox x64
[18:07] <aeon-ltd> badnaam: when it goes fullscreen does it just revert back to windowed?
[18:08] <phlak_user> !hi | phlak_user
[18:08] <RandomTime> rabbit1: do you mean MMORPGs or other full-screen games? Flash games in your browser?
[18:08] <viesturs> found usefull ful help about wifi connections about CLI - going to figure out
[18:08] <badnaam> no, I see a small 1nch x .25 inch screen, if I press escape I come back to the normal window just fine, but it seems the full screen is messed up
[18:08] <rabbit1> Flash games in my firefox,
[18:08] <viesturs> to write my bash for connection
[18:08] <c00lF00L> is there any way to update my sprint hero in linux to the 2.1 version i tried it in vbox but dont seam to work!
[18:09] <RandomTime> rabbit1: have you installed flash (go to install software in the applications menu and search for flash)
[18:09] <ikonia> c00lF00L: no, there is no native linux support
[18:09] <rabbit1> RandomTime: i have 8.10 ubuntu with firefox 3.6
[18:09] <aeon-ltd> badnaam: do you have compiz manager/ccsm?
[18:09] <RandomTime> rabbit1: ubuntu doesn't come with flash by default, unless you install it
[18:09] <twosheds> pvl1: It's rather new, I bought it less than a year ago, and it worked perfect with Windows. I do have experience with programming, and the errors I saw were compilation errors that could either come from bad code (not the case, since people found that driver useful), or some kind of mismatch (expecting something from the kernel and not getting it)
[18:09] <c00lF00L> hum that sux phone powered by linux and cant update it from linux?
[18:09] <badnaam> no but I can install it i guess
[18:10] <rabbit1> RandomTime: its installed in synaptic manager
[18:10] <onetinsoldier> Ency: have you ever tried 'vlc'?
[18:10] <Ency> onetinsoldier: do you have a link for me for the one before lucid? I think my UE version doesnt support lucid... I havent upgraded yet
[18:10] <RandomTime> rabbit1: ok, can you do anything else in flash, or does flash not work at all?
[18:10] <aeon-ltd> badnaam: in appearances settings can you see a tab for effects? try turning it off and trying the video
[18:10] <badnaam> no, it seems like compiz is already installed, how do I start it?
[18:10] <viesturs> question - for WIFI connection from CLI i jhave to use logical interface name or physical (udev)?
[18:10] <RandomTime> rabbit1: i.e. youtube videos, etc
[18:10] <Ency> onetinsoldier: yes I have VLC
[18:10] <viesturs> i supouse that physical
[18:10] <void__> One other thing: why is the new virtual console so incredibly slow in Lucid?
[18:10] <pvl1> twosheds, r u sure u met all the dependencies
[18:10] <mr_danie1> when I watch a video on youtube, or when I download a file, my ping is very high, up to 1000ms. I use a wireless router which connects my ubuntu machine and a windows 7 machine. Even worse: when I watch a video, the ping of every wireless client is very high
[18:10] <Ency> onetinsoldier: it plays the sound of the video but no picture... just like an effect
[18:11] <aeon-ltd> void__: bash or zsh?
[18:11] <rabbit1> RandomTime: i am getting a .deb file from adobe
[18:11] <mr_danie1> on the other hand: when the windows 7 achien streams a youtube vidoe on downloaded a file, everything is fine, no high ping; so I guess my ubuntu machine is misvonfigured?
[18:11] <rabbit1> RandomTime: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_%28.deb%29 will this help?
[18:11] <void__> aeon-ltd: uhm, it is the display that is slow.
[18:11] <void__> aeon-ltd: that has nothign to do with the thing generating the output.
[18:11] <mr_danie1> what can I do to solve the problem?
[18:11] <twosheds> pvl1: Well, this thing was not installed via the package manager, it's like a manual thing, you're supposed to get it, then compile it bla bla. And I followed their instructions from the beginning, so.. I don't know.
[18:11] <sidney> Does the ubuntu server have a GUI?
[18:11] <void__> aeon-ltd: or at least, it should not.
[18:12] <RandomTime> rabbit1: A clean install or updated version might fix it, yes, hoever the package manager has that. Check that flash is installed for firefox (tools, adons, plugins) - it might have been isntalled on your system, but the flash plugin wasn't
[18:12] <onetinsoldier> Ency: roger. i had the same problem with a .mov file made in like, the year 2001. i had to use winff/ffmpeg to play it --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/winff
[18:12] <guntbert> sidney: not by default
[18:12] <void__> aeon-ltd: if that is the bottle neck I don't think Ubuntu can be saved, so it is very unlikely that that is the case.
[18:12] <twosheds> pvl1: This seems kind of silly, since I don't have the output right here with me. I just want to know if this webcam is even supposed to work with unbuntu 10.4
[18:12] <ikonia> sidney: you can install gnome/kde/xfce etc, the same as any ubuntu, but no server speific gui
[18:12] <void__> aeon-ltd: but I use bash.
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> void__: of you mean when changing from VTs (e.g ctrl-alt-F number)
[18:12] <Ency> onetinsoldier: I've had problems getting VMwareplayer to install correctly, I couldnt figure out how to install virtualbox as that wasnt in synaptic, and ive had this codec problem
[18:12] <Ency> karmic ... yes thats what I need
[18:12] <void__> aeon-ltd: the actual changing is faster than before.
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> void__: it could be kms related, if thats what you mean
[18:12] <pvl1> twosheds, sdoesnt mean it doesnt have dependencies.
[18:12] <xs2ubuntu> hello
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> void__: are you on intel gpu?
[18:13] <void__> aeon-ltd: it is the output display.
[18:13] <onetinsoldier> Ency: roger. i can't solve the worlds problems ;-)
[18:13] <void__> aeon-ltd: no, nvidia.
[18:13] <sidney> ikonia: so i install the server then a desktop or the other way around
[18:13] <raven> grub edit - how to boot windows automatically instead of ubuntu?
[18:13] <ikonia> sidney: what do you actually want to do with your computer ?
[18:13] <pvl1> twosheds, can u private message me
[18:13] <void__> void__: I use the binary drivers, because nouveau was even worse.
[18:13] <twosheds> pvl1: Yeah, but I expected whatever instructions were there to make sure I have whatever's necessary
[18:13] <void__> aeon-ltd: I use the binary drivers, because nouveau was even worse.
[18:13] <Kaa> hey, how do I know if my intel video driver is installed correctly?
[18:13] <ikonia> Kaa: what makes you think it's not ?
[18:13] <rabbit1> RandomTime: flashplugin-nonfree is installed
[18:13] <phlak_user> raven: change the default in /etc/grub.default and run update-grub2
[18:13] <onetinsoldier> Ency: i used to think i could! haha :D
[18:14] <xs2ubuntu> phlak_user :: hello
[18:14] <sidney> ikonia: just a file server for now
[18:14] <badnaam> aeod-ltd: tried that, no change
[18:14] <Kaa> ikonia: its a netbook unit, however things are very sluggish, no more than 1 flash video at a time, scrolling is very slow (everywhere)
[18:14] <madjoe> greezmunkey: I can't see the Advanced tab in my Remote Desktop Preferences (I'm on Karmic) - is it only visible on Lucid?
[18:14] <ikonia> sidney: ok, so why not just insall the ubuntu desktop CD ?
[18:14] <phlak_user> raven: sorry /etc/default/grub
[18:14] <Ency> onetinsoldier: lol... i just wish it all just worked... I expected linux to be the solution to windows with its erros lol
[18:14] <phlak_user> xs2ubuntu: hi
[18:14] <Kaa> ikonia: certainly feels as if everything is done in software
[18:14] <ikonia> Kaa: what model intel card is in it ?
[18:14] <greezmunkey> madjoe: hold a sec...
[18:15] <xs2ubuntu> phlak_user :: im using konquerer web browser, but when im typing link adress the error is file does not exit.
[18:15] <onetinsoldier> Ency: Linux is awesome, i love it! you just have to take the time to learn it. you will if you stick with it
[18:15] <void__> aeon-ltd: I think it is slow, because the console used to be basically the hardware console (vga), and now the rendering of the letters is being done in some C library with the help of the GPU.
[18:15] <Kaa> ikonia: Intel  GMA 950 Integrated      Graphics
[18:16] <ikonia> Kaa: that should be detected fine
[18:16] <void__> aeon-ltd: but that is just my uneducated guess, it would be nice if someone would say how it actually worked.
[18:16] <badnaam> btw, I must mention that youtube flash videos play fullscreen just fine
[18:16] <sidney> ikonia:  good idea
[18:16] <raven> how to mount /dev/sda1/Documents/User to /home/user?
[18:16] <badnaam> it's only this site or perhaps this version of flash is causing this?
[18:16] <Kaa> ikonia: do you know if there is a config utility for it?
[18:16] <greezmunkey> madjoe: something is wrong then, you shouldn't need that
[18:16] <Ency> onetinsoldier: how do they expect it to catch on if you are forced to use the command line and go in support forums to find what other bits and pieces you need to download to make things like videos work lol
[18:16] <ikonia> raven: /dev/sda1/documetns/users is not a valid mount point
[18:16] <xs2ubuntu> phlak_user :: The requested operation could not be completed
[18:16] <xs2ubuntu> File or Folder Does Not Exist
[18:16] <Kaa> ikonia: other than editing the xserver config manually
[18:16] <ikonia> raven: I would also strongly advise you not to use NTFS disks as your home dir
[18:16] <ikonia> Kaa: the gnome desktop resolution tool is normally useful
[18:17] <madjoe> greezmunkey: hm.. I don't know what could be wrong then.. I had it like that with my basic Karmic installation
[18:17] <badnaam> any thoughts folks?
[18:17] <mkhanyisi> raven, you cant
[18:17] <ninjroid> What is ubuntu
[18:17] <greezmunkey> madjoe: Let me review that, I probably skipped that because it was unnecessary - looking now, brb
[18:17] <onetinsoldier> Ency: it may be a little complicated, but so is that other OS, their just good at hiding it ;-)  however, there isn't any doors that you can't open in Linux since it's not a proprietary closed OS
[18:17] <mkhanyisi> !ubuntu | ninjroid
[18:17] <raven> phlak_user, when a new kernel will be installed automatically grub will boot memtest - this is not the solution....
[18:17] <onetinsoldier> they're*
[18:17] <madjoe> greezmunkey: I'm using wubi.. maybe that is a relevant info as well
[18:18] <rabbit1> help me out with games on firefox
[18:18] <raven> ikonia, i know but i need to mount a windows myfolder to /home/user
[18:18] <ikonia> raven: thats not true, when memtest is never booted by default
[18:18] <phlak_user> raven: change it to the entry that has the number for windows
[18:18] <ikonia> raven: that is your home directory so don't mount it as your home directory
[18:18] <Kaa> ikonia: are we talking about the "Monitor" app?
[18:18] <Sonsee> hi all
[18:19] <ikonia> Kaa: normally says something like screen resoluton on the menu
[18:19] <Sonsee> who knows what distribution of linux is fastest?
[18:19] <onetinsoldier> Ency: did you download and install winff yet?
[18:19] <mkhanyisi> raven, what do you want to achieve by doing that?
[18:19] <Kaa> ikonia: I have a feeling something is missing, but I can't understand what. I have a netbook remix installed
[18:19] <raven> phlak_user, ikonia when a new kernel will be installed the number does not match any more!!
[18:19] <phlak_user> raven: check this out for grub2 --> http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/changing-the-default-boot-with-ubuntu-910-grub-2.html
[18:19] <greezmunkey> madjoe: no all that is there regards stuff that is already on the main page.
[18:19] <Ency> onetinsoldier: yes and now Im trying to figure out which video didnt work.... I had a folder full of videos and almost all worked but one or two didnt lol
[18:19] <ikonia> raven: so ? that doesn't make it boot memtest
[18:19] <mkhanyisi> Sonsee, we dont know
[18:19] <ninjroid> I have been without internet for literally 2 years, and now I come back and I hear of ubuntu and curious
[18:19] <raven> ikonia, but it also does not boot windows any more
[18:19] <Sonsee> mkhanyisi, maybe you saw some tests?
[18:19] <ikonia> raven: the default is controlled by the line "default"
[18:20] <theadmin> Is PMA in repos?
[18:20] <ikonia> theadmin: search for it
[18:20] <phlak_user> theadmin: whats PMA?
[18:20] <theadmin> No can do, helping a friend and not on Linux
[18:20] <theadmin> phlak_user: phpmyadmin, of course
[18:20] <theadmin> !find phpmy
[18:20] <Aquajag> Question for hp pavilion zx5000. Unable to get wireless working. It is Broadcom 4303, I have tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter. Currently it has the fwcutter driver (B43legacy wireless, in the Ubuntu Hardware Drivers) installed and active, but says wireless is disabled. I have not yet been able to get the wireless hardware button to work and am wondering if there is a way to force/manually enable the wireless card.
[18:20] <onetinsoldier> Ency: roger. winff will be probably be able to play them. if not! then that link that i gave to downloading the bleeding 'svn' edge version probably would
[18:20] <phlak_user> !info phpmyadmin | theadmin
[18:21] <Ency> onetinsoldier: I think it worked... I cant find a video that doesnt work
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> Ency: :-)
[18:21] <godricbrutus> can someone tell me what my main problem is; why ubuntu takes so long to boot? http://www.imagebam.com/image/95e8e681736368
[18:21] <mkhanyisi> Sonsee, no
[18:21] <madjoe> greezmunkey: well, I just tested vnc locally and it works... now I'm heading to do it in a secure fashion for outside of my firewall
[18:21] <theadmin> Okay, once I install it, how do i use it? :/
[18:21] <mkhanyisi> !grub
[18:21] <phlak_user> theadmin: using your browser of course
[18:21] <theadmin> phlak_user: Duh, i mean, where does it go to?
[18:21] <greezmunkey> madjoe: Heh - I was jsut about to write that it was pretty easy, great news!
[18:22] <greezmunkey> madjoe: so you are connecting over ssh, right?
[18:22] <c00lF00L> question : i need to install windows on my laptop to update my htc hero because vbox and wine wont do it. after i install windoze xp its going to write to the mbr, i want to know how to just install the grub back with out reinstalling lucid again.
[18:22] <madjoe> greezmunkey: yeah, it is... I was just reading why I'm not seeing the exact same tabs like on that page you've showed me
[18:22] <phlak_user> theadmin: go to?
[18:22] <madjoe> greezmunkey: yes, ssh
[18:22] <phlak_user> theadmin: http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[18:22] <theadmin> phlak_user: Thanks ^_^
[18:23] <greezmunkey> madjoe: yeah, they just rolled the most important options into one page.
[18:23] <geekyogi> am looking for black jack game on ubuntu :P anyone.?
[18:23] <wrapster> im having trouble trying to understand the way space is being managed...
[18:23] <aeon-ltd> c00lF00L: supergrubdisk
[18:23] <theadmin> geekyogi: Isn't there a built-in one? Gnome Blackjack or something?
[18:23] <wrapster> just a week ago i had to reinstall ubuntu because of lack of space..
[18:23] <aeon-ltd> wrapster: and now?
[18:23] <madjoe> greezmunkey: but I don't see "require encryption" checkbox
[18:23] <mkhanyisi> aeon-ltd, what is a supergrubdisk?
[18:23] <geekyogi> theadmin: nope.. in lucid lynx
[18:23] <Ency> onetinsoldier: thanks for your help man - looks like it did the job
[18:23] <greezmunkey> madjoe: just make sure you "require" a password.
[18:23] <wrapster> now i have a fairly new machine and all of a sudden i see only 5.6G being free
[18:23] <aeon-ltd> mkhanyisi: it restores grub via a live cd
[18:23] <onetinsoldier> Ency: you're welcome, enjoy! :)
[18:23] <godricbrutus> can someone tell me what my main problem is; why ubuntu takes so long to boot? http://www.imagebam.com/image/95e8e681736368
[18:23] <greezmunkey> madjoe: you don't need it, ssh is doing that for you.
[18:24] <madjoe> greezmunkey: or "lock on disconnect", or any of those checkboxes from the advanced tab
[18:24] <mkhanyisi> aeon-ltd, i didnt ask what it does, what is it?
[18:24] <choi> hi, my video is working. but colors are washed out every since lucid. i think it has something to do with the driver and/or noveau. any ideas?
[18:24] <wrapster> what is taking up so much of space? /var/cache/apt/archives is 500M and i have a few other data that is at max worth about another 100M..
[18:24] <geekyogi> theadmin: Well thanx  a lot that day.. for helping me out in installing windows after ubuntu linux install.. :)
[18:24] <aeon-ltd> mkhanyisi: its a live cd
[18:24] <Ency> onetinsoldier: what do you think of ultimate edition? should I get the next one (based on lucid) or just get ubuntu and download the extra bits i need?
[18:24] <collectek> what is the package for usb-install (ubuntu variation -- linux mint)
[18:24] <theadmin> geekyogi: Oh you succeeded? Good news
[18:24] <mkhanyisi> aeon-ltd, ok, i thought its an application
[18:24] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: thats not slow
[18:24] <Ency> onetinsoldier: only reason I got UE was so it would have 'everything' in it already
[18:24] <geekyogi> theadmin: yes..  :)
[18:25] <greezmunkey> madjoe: I can boot up another box here, but I don't remember that being an issue.
[18:25] <wrapster> I have so far only installed vbox,nvidia drivers and thats about it.
[18:25] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, it seems very slow to me
[18:25] <c00lF00L> is  supergrubdisk on the live cd?
[18:25] <madjoe> greezmunkey: no worries, I'll just proceed as is...
[18:25] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: you could shave maybe 2 seconds by replacing gdm with a faster login manager
[18:25] <phlak_user> wrapster: where are you seeing your free disk space info?
[18:25] <wrapster> df -h
[18:25] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: the fastest i got my boot was maybe 25-27 seconds to cli login
[18:26] <guntbert> Ency: discussing different distros is not really on topic here :-)
[18:26] <mkhanyisi> c00lF00L, dont think so
[18:26] <phlak_user> wrapster: did you type df -h in a terminal?
[18:26] <wrapster> phlak_user: df -h
[18:26] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, it takes a while for the panel and wallpaper to show up
[18:26] <onetinsoldier> Ency: i have no idea of what to think of it. don't really know anything about it, and, i just saw someone a bit ago say that, it's yet another unsupported version of Ubuntu, like backtrack4, Mint Linux, ect. they aren't supported here. i have no interest in it really, sorry
[18:26] <wrapster> phlak_user: yes
[18:26] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: i could go faster maybe <20secs to X with scripting
[18:26] <phlak_user> wrapster: can you pastebin it please?
[18:26] <mkhanyisi> c00lF00L, you can restore grub to mbr using your livecd
[18:26] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Wha? Less then ten seconds over here from GRUB to full graphical environment. 20 seconds is... slow.
[18:26] <aeon-ltd> theadmin: old P4 512mb ram, counting POST time. on button to desktop
[18:26] <mkhanyisi> c00lF00L, mind you if i give you the quick steps?
[18:27] <godricbrutus> theadmin, that's what i thought. mine is painfully slow
[18:27] <BitEncrypt> how do i change back to the GNOME front end manager?
[18:27] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: I also have 512 MB ram.
[18:27] <Ency> onetinsoldier: kk i understand. thanks for your help with the codec again :)\
[18:27] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: But I don't count POST times...
[18:27] <onetinsoldier> Ency: cheers
[18:27] <wrapster> phlak_user: http://pastie.org/973515
[18:27] <godricbrutus> theadmin, can you take a look at my 'bootchart;'?
[18:27] <aeon-ltd> theadmin: why not its time spent waiting
[18:27] <theadmin> godricbrutus: I have. Bug 571707
[18:27] <godricbrutus> theadmin, http://www.imagebam.com/image/95e8e681736368
[18:28] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: what DE? gnome is quite heavy nowadays
[18:28] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, yes gnome
[18:28] <Aquajag> Question for hp pavilion zx5000. Unable to get wireless working. It is Broadcom 4303, I have tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter. Currently it has the fwcutter driver (B43legacy wireless, in the Ubuntu Hardware Drivers) installed and active, but says wireless is disabled. I have not yet been able to get the wireless hardware button to work and am wondering if there is a way to force/manually enable the wireless card.
[18:28] <godricbrutus> theadmin, i'm not sure what you meant by bug 571707
[18:28] <oCean_> wrapster: virtual machine harddrives might take up a lot of space. Try "du -sh /home" to see if the space "lost" is in /home filesystem
[18:28] <theadmin> godricbrutus: https://launchpad.net/bugs/571707
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:28] <godricbrutus> theadmin, ok
[18:28] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: you could try a wm and a panel that isn't dependant on gnome. but the problem may be loading applets, how many have you got on the panel(s)
[18:29] <dhikr> hi all ! i ahve a problem with gdesklet , he is install but i don't run... What do you know ? Thankyou
[18:29] <jifli> how can I use su with UID's ?
[18:29] <wrapster> oCean_: yes i know that.. so all the .vdi images are moved to another partition that i mount only when required.
[18:29] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: It's stuck at plymouth, sheesh, not a gnome issue
[18:29] <wrapster> oCean_: there are no images on my machine.
[18:29] <phlak_user> wrapster: what is the size of the harddisk you have?
[18:29] <BitEncrypt> guitarmanmitch: where you from
[18:29] <wrapster> 320G
[18:29] <oCean_> wrapster: so, using "du" you found out which directory takes up your 12G ?
[18:29] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, none
[18:29] <aeon-ltd> theadmin: he/she said it was taking a long time for the panel and desktop image to load
[18:30] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: what spec pc?
[18:30] <wrapster> oCean_: that ive not done as yet... on the /
[18:30] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Oh?
[18:30] <klisto> clear
[18:30] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: I must have missed that
[18:30] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, custom
[18:30] <compaq> when I open a file in nautilus, how do I change the default application.  Specifically, i want to use mplayer rather than totem
[18:30] <phlak_user> wrapster: can you pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l please
[18:30] <mkhanyisi> c00lF00L, check your private message
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Jifli: you'd have to read the su man page to see if it supports UID use. I think if you just use the UID the system will realise but the man page will pretty much tell you
[18:30] <theadmin> compaq: Right click, preferences, open with
[18:30] <badnaam> can anyone help with with flash player full screen problem please?
[18:31] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, bug 571707 intel e6600, 8gb ram
[18:31] <ssquirrel> ...
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !default | compaq
[18:31] <ssquirrel> hai
[18:31] <rocket16> badnaam: What is the problem?
[18:31] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, nvidia 7600gt 256mb
[18:31] <compaq> theadmin, no, I mean when I left click it uses totem by default, how I change this setting
[18:31] <wrapster> phlak_user: http://pastie.org/973515
[18:31] <theadmin> compaq: When you left-click?
[18:31] <compaq> ActionParsnip, oh, thanks
[18:31] <theadmin> compaq: When you double-click it does something only (well, normally)
[18:31] <oCean_> wrapster: all your directories are on /, so you better try du on directories as /home, /usr, /var and/or /opt
[18:31] <badnaam> fullscreen at espn3 doesnt work, it goes into full screen mode but the actual viewable screen is 1inchx.25 inch
[18:31] <badnaam> youtube fullscreens work
[18:32] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: that is quite odd for lag, what login items are you using, are any set with the "sleep x &&" prefix?
[18:32] <rocket16> badnaam: Well, the settings are a bit different. What is the browser, Firefox?
[18:32] <wrapster> ok
[18:32] <jifli> ActionParsnip: the man page doesn't say anything about UID's and if i just su 1004 it says user 1004 doesn't exist D:
[18:32] <yosi1234> Does Back-In-Time backup software work from the clie for Ubuntu Server or only a gui backup software?
[18:32] <badnaam> firefox 3.6 x64
[18:32] <phlak_user> wrapster: all your disk space is there; you just need to mount the other partitions
[18:32] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, not that i know of. only extra login item i have is emerald
[18:32] <rabbit1> how to play .wmv files in vlc? does it support?
[18:32] <theadmin> rabbit1: Why yes
[18:33] <ssquirrel> does anyone know where the security logs are? \
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: are you running compiz aswell?
[18:33] <rocket16> badnaam: Well. It might be a site-specific problem, :(
[18:33] <E_E> hi... I know I'm in the wrong room for this but it's where I ended up.... how do I get to a channel with people from my city to chat with? live in Vancouver, BC
[18:33] <phlak_user> ssquirrel: /var/log/auth.log ?
[18:33] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, yes
[18:33] <rabbit1> theadmin: but one of the file is not playing, and i don have other .wmv files to check :(
[18:33] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, but it was never a problem before
[18:33] <wrapster> phlak_user: yes.. i understand that.. but my question was where to find out why the / partition is gobbling up space?
[18:33] <phlak_user> E_E: use the telephone directory
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Rabbit1: if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras it should. You could also try the codec pack on medibuntu's repo
[18:33] <wrapster> other partitions im not worried.
[18:34] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: what happened prior to this? like installed/uninstalled items
[18:34] <enerd128> hi ubuntu enerd128 is here
[18:34] <wrapster> phlak_user: fine.. i'll take a look at it.. Thanks for your help
[18:34] <badnaam> anyway to stream the flash content outside of firefox?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> !codec | rabbit1
[18:34] <Aquajag> Question for hp pavilion zx5000. Unable to get wireless working. It is Broadcom 4303, I have tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter. Currently it has the fwcutter driver (B43legacy wireless, in the Ubuntu Hardware Drivers) installed and active, but says wireless is disabled. I have not yet been able to get the wireless hardware button to work and am wondering if there is a way to force/manually enable the wireless card.
[18:34] <phlak_user> wrapster: you might have selected that as the / and everything else below it; normally it is a good idea to have separate partitions for /home /var etc etc
[18:34] <rocket16> badnaam: Sure, try Miro TV, and VLC
[18:34] <badnaam> so that I can use a different version of flash player and see if that works
[18:34] <E_E> phlak_user: seriously, are channels not organized by region ?
[18:34] <linux-k> #ubuntu-es
[18:34] <badnaam> thanks!
[18:34] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, i've just been doing as normal. didn't install anything new that i can think of
[18:34] <E_E> phlak: or servers ?
[18:34] <yosi1234> phlak: I learned webmina nd love it, I wanted a GUI yyesterday, but may have changed my mind...  does Webmin take less resources than running a GUI on a server?
[18:34] <yosi1234> webmin
[18:34] <phlak_user> E_E: not that I know of; maybe on undernet
[18:34] <oCean_> wrapster: might be in /home, /usr, /opt or /var
[18:34] <rocket16> badnaam: :)
[18:35] <badnaam> oh, what's teh best way to fish the url out of the flash player?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: use a wired connection to get fully updated. It may help
[18:35] <E_E> phlak_user: ok Ill try that thx
[18:35] <phlak_user> yosi1234: yes of course it only uses apache
[18:35] <linux-k> ubuntu-es
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | yosi1234
[18:35] <linux-k> como entrar a sala de españoles
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: did this just happen after the 10.04 update?
[18:35] <phlak_user> !es| linux-k
[18:35] <oCean_> linux-k: "/join #ubuntu-es"
[18:36] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip, I did just the other day, i have very little access to wired connection. Updated, that's how I got the current driver going. It went from saying "disconnected" to "wireless is disabled." I think now the problem is the hardware switch, but it has never worked in Ubuntu
[18:36] <linux-k> ah
[18:36] <linux-k> ok
[18:36] <linux-k> thinks
[18:36] <rhonny> hey!! no sound cuming from amarok
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: ok does: sudo iwlist scan ,show APs?
[18:36] <rocket16> rhonny: Is it running on gnome?
[18:36] <rhonny> yeah
[18:36] <theadmin> rhonny: Any other apps having problems with sound?
[18:36] <rhonny> nopes
[18:36] <yosi1234> phlak: it works pretty well, but trying to find a program for varemetal backup... or i guess i could ESXi virtualize the system to backup, but then I was trying to find the performance hot for tcpip latency and storage latency but cnt find any tests on that
[18:36] <bondiblueos9> I have a file that was split into four pieces.  I need to perform an operation on the original file, but it is several GB.  Is there any way I can do the equivalent of cat ing all the segments together without actually producing a new file?
[18:36] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, i was on 10.4 before, and it was never slow like this
[18:37] <ssquirrel> phalk_user: not the logins ... but the packet stateful firewall logs
[18:37] <linux-k> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[18:37] <yosi1234> baremetal
[18:37] <ssquirrel> help help
[18:37] <rocket16> rhonny: Also, are the plugins installed in Amarok? If yes, check the settings for sound
[18:37] <yosi1234> performance hit
[18:37] <ssquirrel> does anyone know where the firewall logs are?
[18:37] <rhonny> k
[18:37] <theadmin> bondiblueos9: Duh of course! "cat file1 file2 file3 file4"
[18:37] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: something must have happened to cause this.
[18:37] <theadmin> bondiblueos9: CAT is for conCATenate, dammit :/
[18:37] <BitEncrypt> when i boot up it says kubuntu...how do i return it to ubuntu?
[18:37] <madjoe> greezmunkey: I can't install lokkit as suggested in the documentation.. do you know why? I can't find gnome-lokkit in my Synaptic
[18:37] <phlak_user> ssquirrel: firewall logs generally go into /var/log/messages unless youve configured differently
[18:37] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, yep. that's what i'm trying to figure out
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Bitencrypt: log out, choose gnome, log in
[18:38] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, maybe i should just fresh install
[18:38] <BitEncrypt> ive done that
[18:38] <ssquirrel> phlak_user: thank you ...
[18:38] <bondiblueos9> theadmin: I mean, I want a file that isn't actually a file but acts like the output of cat would, had I written that output to file
[18:38] <BitEncrypt> its before that screen
[18:38] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, i guess the only thing importand for me to back-up is my virtualbox machine
[18:38] <phlak_user> bondiblueos9: thats called the stdout
[18:38] <BitEncrypt> that it says kubuntu
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Bitencrypt: you will need to click your username first, the desktop selection is at the bottom
[18:38] <phlak_user> BitEncrypt: that means you installed kubuntu
[18:38] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: sudo iwlist scan says "Interface doesn't support scanning" for lo, eth0, vboxnet0. For wlan0 is adds "network is down"
[18:39] <theadmin> bondiblueos9: Err. So you want an output of cat somewhere in command line? Use $(cat somefile)
[18:39] <greezmunkey> madjoe: what happens when you are connected locally, and then interrupt your connection, i.e.unplug your ethernet cable?
[18:39] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, yep. i'm gonna fresh install
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: if you rmmod the module used by the device then modprobe it, does it work then? Have you looked for guides for your laptop model,  there may be a guide on how to make it nice
[18:40] <realubot> I get this error trying to connect remote using neatnx-server: Agent warning: Failed to get the control parameters. Why do I get that message in my /var/logs/messages file?
[18:40] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: wait! how much lag (in seconds)?
[18:40] <Guest4233> hi,
[18:40] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, i dunno in exact seconds
[18:40] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: but long enough to be a problem
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: are you using ubuntu in a virtualbox?
[18:40] <Guest4233> any professional knows ehcp, I have a issue needs help
[18:40] <madjoe> greezmunkey: oh, I can only test it on my laptop... I made a self-reference connection.. weird, I know. :)
[18:40] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: I have been unsuccessful in finding guides for my model. Everything has been for slightly diff version of Broadcom, nothing for my laptop. I'm somewhat new so i don't know how to rmmod or modprobe as you suggested
[18:41] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, but i'm having an issue with virtualbox as well that i can't seem to figure out, which is why i feel like fresh installing. yes, enough lag to be a problem
[18:41] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: no, using ubuntu LTS as the only OS. I am currently using a separate laptop, also using ubuntu LTS, to communicate online
[18:41] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: you could try changing from gnome to something lighter like maybe just compiz standalone with a panel like tint2, whats the problem with virtual box?
[18:41] <InvaderZim> Freshly installed Lucid can't login to X! Screen blinks! X log says Fatal error savage driver problem. Kdm stop, rmmod savage, modprobe savagefb and startx (NOT kdm start) makes it work. It doesnt make any sense! It worked ok with Karmic. Help anyone?
[18:41] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, i have to re-boot to tell you
[18:42] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, brb
[18:42] <aeon-ltd> godricbrutus: bye
[18:42] <greezmunkey> madjoe: I'll lab that here, give me about ten minutes to get set up.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will be able to see the name of the driver. You can then run; sudo rmmod name;sleep 5; sudo modprobe name ,replace name with the actual name in the output
[18:42] <madjoe> greezmunkey: thnx
[18:42] <rhonny> @rocket16 evrythng is f9
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: are you fully updated?
[18:43] <bondiblueos9> phlak_user, theadmin: ok, here is exactly what I want to do: I have noname1.bin.001 noname1.bin.002 noname1.bin.003 and noname1.cue and I want to make an iso.  I know I can cat noname1.bin.001 noname1.bin.002 noname1.bin.003 > noname1.bin and then bchunk noname1.bin noname1.cue noname to make the iso, but I want to avoid creating the intermediate file of noname1.bin
[18:43] <rhonny> still no clue in running amarok
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Rhonny: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:44] <rhonny> nopes
[18:44] <InvaderZim> ActionParsnip: yes, fully
[18:44] <phlak_user> bondiblueos9: would it cause any problems if you create the temp file? you could always delete it later
[18:44] <rhonny> i'm on ubuntu 9.10
[18:44] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, wow, that was about 40 seconds that i counted, from grub to the panel and background
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Rhonny: amarok doesn't use gnome style sound stuffs which is why the metapackages are different. I suggest you install it
[18:44] <quidnunc> Why is "touch /tmp/foo" complaining about the drive being read-only but "mount" says that it is rw?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: is there a bug logged for it?
[18:45] <Guest55492> I've created a new account on ubuntu 10.04 using the Live Session user, but I can't login to this new account.
[18:45] <imgarysmith> can anybody help me with the cairo-dock?
[18:45] <bondiblueos9> phlak_user: just that the files are large and it takes extra time and hard-drive space; I thought maybe since the temp file is really just the three files end to end there would be a fancy way to do it
[18:45] <InvaderZim> ActionParsnip: no haven't seen it and I havent filed it yet
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Quidnunc: does it work if you use sudo?
[18:45] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: No
[18:45] <phlak_user> bondiblueos9: beats me; sorry
[18:45] <madjoe> greezmunkey: since Karmic has ufw as a default firewall and I can't find lokkit, I guess I should just run "sudo ufw allow 22" from my console
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: with issues like that its good to check. It may be a known bug
[18:46] <godricbrutus> aeon-ltd, http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d9eb481739233
[18:46] <Sunderphon> If I installed via wubi, how do I navigate to the drive containing windows?
[18:46] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: lshw gave me a few devices. seems there are more listed after my driver attempts. I am not sure how to tell what the driver name is in all of that?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Sunderphon: /host
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: it says driver=something
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:47] <phlak_user> !hi| sebsebseb
[18:47] <sebsebseb> phlak_user: hi
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Sunderphon: its accessible from there, you access partitions too, not drives
[18:47] <valentino_tuga> ubuntu 10.04 is so fast. it took less than 10 seconds to boot
[18:47] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: network:0 ..... configuration: driver=b43-pci-bridge latency=64. so instead of "name" i should put "b43-pci=bridge"?
[18:47] <sebsebseb> valentino_tuga: :)
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Aquajag: it's b43-pci-bridge for the driver name then
[18:48] <greezmunkey> madjoe: you may want to consider selecting a "nonstandard" port for ssh - I know it's not much security wise, but why make it any easier, right.
[18:48] <InvaderZim> ActionParsnip: where do i search for it? cant find search button on launchpad
[18:49] <rgoytacaz> I've upgraded to 10.4
[18:49] <madjoe> greezmunkey: right. what would you suggest? ports higher than some number? or?
[18:49] <rgoytacaz> and it uninstalled my java
[18:49] <TheGrammarFreak> How can I improve the battery life of ubuntu? I'm using Lucid
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: just use a websearch engine. Something like: ubuntu bug blah foo bar ,replace foo and bar with useful things
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Etc
[18:49] <rgoytacaz> and theres no sun-java listed in the synaptic
[18:49] <InvaderZim> ActionParsnip: oh I did that already, didnt find anything
[18:49] <Aquajag> ActionParsnip: "sudo rmmod b43-pci-bridge" returns "ERROR: Module b43_pci_bridge does not exist in /proc/modules"
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Invaderzim: i'd log it then
[18:50] <greezmunkey> madjoe: yeah, pick one that is not in use by anthing else. Google "ip services" to fins a list, or search on your winbox for services*.*
[18:50] <rgoytacaz> how to install java for Ubuntu 10.4?!
[18:50] <quidnunc> Oh, "mount" doesn't tell you if it mounted rw, only that it should be.
[18:50] <rgoytacaz> it uninstalled my java when I upgraded from 9 to 10. =/
[18:50] <pietr> Hello. I need some insights into using ubuntu with ntfs? I know that there are much better filesystems, but unfortunatelly I don't have a choice. So my question is this. Can linux (ubuntu 10.04) safely work with ntfs filesystems?
[18:51] <madjoe> greezmunkey: ok, so I'll just "sudo ufw allow XXXX" that's it?
[18:51] <k3rn> does a command exisists, that does not print a line matching a pattern? lile a negation pof grep?
[18:51] <ikonia> pietr: no, it is strongly advise against it
[18:51] <JohnN> just finished googling it but none of the solutions seem to work... maybe cos this is lubuntu... anyways...
[18:51] <aeon-ltd> !chocolate
[18:51] <aeon-ltd> !chocolate
[18:51] <TheGrammarFreak> pietr, it can read form it and write to it fine
[18:51] <aeon-ltd> !chocolate
[18:51] <FloodBot1> aeon-ltd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <pietr> ikonia: why?
[18:51] <JohnN> can't get any rez above 800x600 on an old tosh laptop
[18:51] <ikonia> pietr: you would be better off using wubi, although that has it's negative aspects against a native install
[18:51] <pietr> TheGrammarFreak: so no problems?
[18:51] <architeuthis> wubi worked for me
[18:51] <ikonia> pietr: it's a closed source file system with not %100 stable reverse engineering
[18:52] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, I can get ot my Windows 7 partition fine, nothings broken. I would never use it as the home directory of linux or anything
[18:52] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, but it works for basic stuff
[18:52] <architeuthis> anyone know a util to change an ipod from hfs to fat 32 in ubuntu
[18:52] <sender> Hello, is possible to automatically only display a certain panel, when twinview is enabled? Thanks.
[18:53] <ikonia> architeuthis: just mkfs it
[18:53] <ikonia> architeuthis: you will lose all your data though
[18:53] <architeuthis> fucking cant rockbox an apple formated ipod
[18:53] <ikonia> architeuthis: control your langauge
[18:53] <ikonia> architeuthis: that langauge is unacceptable in this channel
[18:53] <architeuthis> sry
[18:53] <Black_Phantom> If I convert a file to .wav will it affect the quality of the sound ?
[18:53] <pietr> TheGrammarFreak: the thing is that I have approx 4TB on those disks, and I have nowhere to move it and convert the fs. so I think I'm stuck with ntfs
[18:53] <Black_Phantom> or not necessarily ?
[18:53] <TheGrammarFreak> Depends on sampling rate and bit depth Black_Phantom
[18:54] <ikonia> pietr: then use wubi
[18:54] <badcloud> accidently removed my sys panel
[18:54] <badcloud> how do I restore it??
[18:54] <Black_Phantom> TheGrammarFreak, I didnt touch any of them, I edited an audio and am exporting it as .wav so that I can burn it
[18:54] <enzotib> !resetpanel | badcloud
[18:54] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, I don't think an ubuntu installer will even let you use ntfs as a home drive.
[18:54] <new2irc> hello everyone. I have been reading some manpages and notices they refer to some commands as command(number), for instance less(1). Does anyone know what the number in the parentheises represents?
[18:55] <TheGrammarFreak> Black_Phantom, if you can;t hear a difference then it's fine.
[18:55] <ikonia> new2irc: man pages have multiple pages for each command
[18:55] <BitEncrypt> is there a way to delete kubuntu without deleting ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[18:55] <TheGrammarFreak> Mathematically something will be lost, but that's life, Black_Phantom
[18:55] <phlak_user> BitEncrypt: just install gnome
[18:55] <pietr> TheGrammarFreak: i don't need it as home drive. I have a 80GB disk just for linux and my personal data are on 2 separate disks, both with ntfs
[18:56] <BitEncrypt> from the software center'
[18:56] <Docolero> new2irc, try 'man man'
[18:56] <new2irc> ikonia: ok, so I assume it counts how many pages cover a specific command? So that's why I have been seeing man [number] command?
[18:57] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, so install linux to that drive. The read/write stuff in linux for ntfs have been fine for me. Backups of really important data might be an idea. But I'd recommend that anyway :D
[18:57] <pietr> TheGrammarFreak: so what kind of linux well supported filesystem do you recommend for safely storing huge amounts of data?
[18:57] <madjoe> greezmunkey: ok, I opened one port for SSH by using this tool: http://cirt.net/ports It's a neat page!
[18:58] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, I don;t actually know, sorry. I use EXT4, but I have no more than 640 GB of data, most of which is on ntfs anyway
[18:58] <LjL> Black_Phantom: WAV is a lossless format, so generally speaking you won't lose quality if you convert stuff to it... only when converting to lossy formats you do
[18:58] <Guest33152> does anyone knows what is the name of the official android channel here  ?
[18:58] <pietr> TheGrammarFreak: ok, thank you :-)
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[18:58] <BitEncrypt> I think i have kde frontend manager running???? how do i change it to gnome......wont let me install gnome from software center, due to dependencies
[18:58] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, No problem
[18:59] <k3rn> question: when i use echo -e " foo \t bar" - can i specify the width of the horizontal tab??
[18:59] <TheGrammarFreak> peitr, A quick google should get you some stuff on various linux filesystems btw
[18:59] <TheGrammarFreak> :D
[18:59] <badcloud> thanks ubottu and enzotib :)
[18:59] <phlak_user> BitEncrypt: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop normally works fine
[19:00] <Black_Phantom> sorry TheGrammarFreak did you say something after that ? I was d/c
[19:00] <TheGrammarFreak> Black_Phantom, what was the last thing you saw me say?
[19:00] <onetinsoldier> BitEncrypt: you should add to your problem description, a pastebin, that shows the command you are using and the error messages you are receiving
[19:00] <Black_Phantom> TheGrammarFreak, about the bitrate
[19:00] <Black_Phantom> TheGrammarFreak, the 1st thing u said
[19:00] <Ubuntu> Can you customize the login screen like in the previous versions
[19:01] <phlak_user> ubuntu: yes
[19:01] <uLinux> How do I create a shortcut so it opens an executable?
[19:01] <TheGrammarFreak> Black_Phantom, I said that mathmatically you will probably loose something. The chances are you won't hear it as long as it's encoded at more than 44.2KHz and
[19:01] <swamjj> j3255
[19:01] <uLinux> I can do it manually by double click on it..
[19:01] <TheGrammarFreak> I can;t remember the bit depth, Black_Phantom.
[19:01] <TheGrammarFreak> Sorry
[19:02] <sender> Is it possible to automatically only display a certain panel, when twinview is enabled? Thanks.
[19:02] <Black_Phantom> TheGrammarFreak, thanks, its ok
[19:02] <barberan> where is my static IP address on eth0 written? in which file ?
[19:02] <TheGrammarFreak> Does anyone know how to improve the battery life of my laptop when it runs ubuntu?
[19:02] <TheGrammarFreak> Black_Phantom, no worries
[19:02] <sender> barberan: /etc/networking/interfaces (I think)
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:02] <uLinux> How to create a shortcut to run an executable?
[19:03] <phlak_user> barberan: if you're not using network manager then what sender says is right
[19:03] <Ubuntu> So how can I theme the login screen?
[19:03] <phlak_user> TheGrammarFreak: turn off wi-fi and bluetooth
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: depending on your cpu, the 'cpufrequtils' package might be of help
[19:03] <uLinux> Ubuntu you can use Ubuntu Tweak
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu: I know a way to change the wallpaper with a cheeky command or 2
[19:03] <phlak_user> !gdm
[19:03] <sender> barberan: correct path is: /etc/network/interfaces
[19:03] <rhonny> :TheGrammerFreak u can stop services which u r not using, like sql or apache etc
[19:04] <uLinux> hello ActionParsnip
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: howdy
[19:04] <TheGrammarFreak> Cool, thanks guys. My CPU is already "scaled" down. I'll look into prcess killing
[19:04] <barberan> sender: What if I am using GUI network manager? I see that my /etc/network/interfaces is empty now
[19:04] <TheGrammarFreak> Cheersa
[19:04] <StefanNET> how to adduser with password in same line? without passwd user..?
[19:04] <phlak_user> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubunt-gdm-themes
[19:05] <Ubuntu> let me try those.
[19:05] <uLinux> oh sorry Ubuntu
[19:05] <phlak_user> StefanNET: man adduser should tell you; i think there is a -p somewhere
[19:05] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: to see the status of services as mentioned by rhonny, i think you can use the 'chkconfig' command. i haven't used it much... but check out --> chkconfig -A
[19:05] <sender> barberan: what do you want to do?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[19:05] <noren> hi guys i m running ubuntu minimal lucid theres a huge memory leak prob i m facing any solution known
[19:05] <uLinux> How do I create a shortcut to run an executable?
[19:05] <BitEncrypt> how do i stop running KDE front end manager?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu: use anything you want now :)
[19:06] <phlak_user> StefanNET: sorry useradd has a -p option
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: you can create a symlink to it
[19:06] <noren> in karmic it was using 80 mb and now in lucid the same is using 200 mb ??
[19:06] <StefanNET> yaea -p
[19:06] <StefanNET> but its sented encrypted
[19:06] <TheGrammarFreak> onetinsoldier, that packes comes up as "untrusted"
[19:06] <phlak_user> noren: how did you find that out?
[19:06] <barberan> sender: I want to know where is my IP address written? for example where is it taken from during my system boot process? IP address is static -> it's saved somewhere
[19:06] <StefanNET> useradd username -p pwpw
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: ln -s /path/to/thing /path/to/link
[19:06] <StefanNET> and go to login user: username pw: pwpw
[19:07] <StefanNET> and access denied why?
[19:07] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: hmm? what does? chkconfig -A ?
[19:07] <Ubuntu> About my problem with logging in--I can't login to a new account I just made, but I can login to root and Live Session (when i try to login to new account after I enter my username and password, the dialog disappears for 1 second, and comes back)
[19:07] <ikonia> StefanNET: how did you setup that user ?
[19:07] <StefanNET> useradd stefan -p mynewpw
[19:07] <noren> phlak_user: i am using ubuntu minimal in karmic it was using at the most 80 mb and now its using 200 mb and the caching increases with the time
[19:07] <ikonia> Ubuntu: you shouldn't be able to login as root - how did you enable it
[19:07] <new2irc> Docolero , thanks! Wonder how I missed the part about sections when I checked there last. So the numbers more or less describes what kind of category the program is in?
[19:07] <TheGrammarFreak> onetinsoldier, IT;s not currently installed on my system, when I use aptitude to try and install it it warns me that it's an untrusted package
[19:08] <rhonny> amarok is not connecting with net ??
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: the cpufrequtils package? interesting
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: don't know why it would say that
[19:08] <phlak_user> noren: if you run top and press M the processes will get sorted in decreasing order of memory usage. maybe you can find our which process is misbehaving
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: or chkconfig.. don't know why it would either
[19:08] <Ency> can anyone tell me what channel/server I should go to for chat about distros?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu: make sure the user is the owner of all of its own $HOME with cd /home; sudo chmod -R foo ./foo ,assuming the
[19:09] <friedturtl3> are there cell phones with IRC apps?
[19:09] <madjoe> greezmunkey: I think I set it all up... and I'm using UPnP on my router
[19:09] <Docolero> new2irc, thats how I understand it, but its been a while since I worked much with the shell :)
[19:09] <TheGrammarFreak> not cpufrequtils, the chckconfig
[19:09] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: you have any ppa's added?
[19:09] <Ency> friedturtl3: i bet iphone has an app for it
[19:09] <noren> phlak_user: running htop i m getting /usr/bin/X as the top mem user, it was not so before
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Ency: #ubuntu-offtopic is good for non-ubuntu support chat
[19:09] <friedturtl3> yeah, proly cost for texting though
[19:09] <Ency> actionparsnip: thx
[19:09] <rhonny> hey! my amarok is not connecting to the net
[19:09] <StefanNET> can someone help me?
[19:10] <rhonny> plzz help
[19:10] <blue_anna> when I install support for a language I get every locale for that language .. it makes it hard to use the language selection list when it's full of different locales (es and en both have like 20) -- can I just install *1 locale somehow?
[19:10] <phlak_user> !help
[19:10] <TheGrammarFreak> Oh well
[19:10] <TheGrammarFreak> Ency, #Ubuntu-Offtopic might be a start
[19:10] <greezmunkey> madjoe: yeah, I'm seeing some wierdness at my end, I had this all worked out before I set up 10.04 - It's cool though I needed to do this sooner or later :)
[19:10] <FoolishOwl> Hello. I've been trying to figure out a better way to do something with ssh. Currently, I log in to a server, using an intermediate server, using this command: 'ssh -At myname@intermediate.server "ssh ip.address"'. I'd like to set this up in .ssh_config.
[19:11] <noren> is memory leak a common prob ?? then i will go back to karmic again !!
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Blue_anna: use localepurge. You can select the language you need and save space
[19:11] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: do you have any ppa's added or have you added anything to your software sources allowing you to get packages other than stock lucid packages?
[19:11] <TheGrammarFreak> onetinsoldier, yeah
[19:11] <dustin_> is there a semacode reader for ubuntu I see the writer but how would I verify corectness?
[19:11] <valentino_tuga> Everything is ubuntu 10.04 is excellent so far. I just wish MI empathy could have video chat for MSN conversations
[19:11] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: ok, that's why then ;-)
[19:11] <trevjs> Anybody got a link for the best solution for downgrading to php 5.2 on lucid?
[19:11] <madjoe> greezmunkey: can we switch to pm... it's too loud in here?
[19:11] <greezmunkey> madjoe: yeah, sure. Go ahead.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Noren: not seen it here but karmic is supported well into next year
[19:11] <TheGrammarFreak> onetinsoldier, I am win! Lol.
[19:12] <blue_anna> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[19:12] <onetinsoldier> TheGrammarFreak: lol :)
 Ulinux: ln -s /path/to/thing /path/to/link        What is the thing=executable?  Link? i didnt get it
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Trevjs: there is no best way.
[19:13] <noren> ActionParsnip: i had upgraded mine from karmic to lucid ... may be this is a prob.. i must get a clean install ~~ what do u suggest
[19:13] <Ubuntu> ikonia: When ubuntu finished starting, it automatically logged into the live session user, and I created it from there.
[19:13] <rhonny> where i can configure proxy settings for amarok
[19:13] <friedturtl3> noren whats the problem?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: ok, if you wanted to put gedit on the desktop using a symlink you would run: ln -s /usr/bin/gedit $HOME/Desktop/gedit
[19:13] <ikonia> Ubuntu: ahhh, this is on a live cd session
[19:13] <raven> rhythmbox imports 0/xxxxxxx - what is going wrong there?
[19:14] <Malabi> Hi. I need some help. I tried to boot Ubuntu 10.04 with a CD and I chose "test Ubuntu" or something along those lines, but when I had chosen that the screen just went all black and nothing happened. Does anyone know what might be the problem?
[19:14] <uLinux> ActionParsnip i want to add a shortcut to menu
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: its like a windows shortcut but symlinks are a thosand times more powerful
[19:14] <StefanNET> @Appetite is vouch seller!
[19:14] <raven> how to restart the xserver (10.04)?
[19:14] <Ubuntu> Ubuntu: Actually, running off a flash drive. Once I figure out how to tweak everything the way I like it, I can install over my previous OS.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: then use alacarte, its part of a standard install
[19:14] <undecim> FoolishOwl: Let me look at the ssh manual for minute. I think I know what to do.
[19:15] <Ubuntu> Oops. ikonia:Actually, running off a flash drive. Once I figure out how to tweak everything the way I like it, I can install over my previous OS.
[19:15] <uLinux> the file i want to open is at /home/xxx/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv
[19:15] <noren> friedturtl3: i am getting a memory leak and cant trace it to the exact application in lucid, it was running good at 80 mb but in lucid its almost to 200 mb seeing htop the memory usage differs with differrent boot
[19:15] <raven> how to restart the xserver (10.04)?
[19:15] <phlak_user> raven: log out and log in
[19:15] <noren> raven: sudo /etc/ini.t/gdm restart
[19:15] <raven> noren phlak_user by keys?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can use ctrl+alt+backspace if you re-enable it in the keyboard settings
[19:16] <noren> raven: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:16] <jooce> hola
[19:16] <undecim> FoolishOwl: I think the -A is the same as having "ForwardAgent yes" in the config file, but I don't know about the -t option.
[19:16] <uLinux> or I could the easy way but boring way: double click the file
[19:16] <FoolishOwl> undecim, thanks. I just found there's #openssh, so I asked there, too.
[19:16] <blue_anna> ActionParsnip: is there a *better* way to do it than localepurge? localepurge doesnt detect which locales I have installed, and simply gives me a list of all possible locales to select from
[19:16] <Rave1> free
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Blue_anna: that's all I got, the app should remove the ones you don't need afaik
[19:17] <raven> rhythmbox imports 0/xxxxxxx - what is going wrong there?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !locale
[19:17] <blue_anna> ActionParsnip: I bet it would :P but it's going to take me an hur to scroll to the p's :P
[19:17] <blue_anna> *hour
[19:17] <undecim> FoolishOwl: There is also another simple way to do this that I can think of... I can't see a config file equivalent to the -t option, but you could set up a bash alias for ssh instead of messing with the config file.
[19:17] <noren> friedturtl3: i am getting a memory leak and cant trace it to the exact application in lucid, it was running good at 80 mb but in lucid its almost to 200 mb seeing htop the memory usage differs with differrent boot
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Blue_anna: I'll believe that. There is a lot of fluff in a default ubuntu install
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Noren: are you fully updated?
[19:18] <FoolishOwl> undecim, yeah, the command I typed in was abstracted from the commands I've got in .bash_aliases.
[19:18] <noren> ActionParsnip: yes i am
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Noren: could try the 2.6.33 kernel at your own risk
[19:18] <FoolishOwl> One reason I'd like to do it through .ssh/config is that then I might be able to use sshfs, for instance.
[19:18] <Ubuntu> Is anyone booting ubuntu from a USB Flash drive?
[19:19] <con-man> why does my flash still not work.  I have to hold the middle mouse button down to left click anything.  It hasn't worked since Hery Hardon
[19:19] <pietr> Hello,  I need some problems with unstability of  Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) under Ubuntu 10.04. So, how do I fix it? :-)
[19:19] <pietr> i mean i have some problems ...
[19:19] <noren> Ubuntu: yes i do
[19:19] <undecim> FoolishOwl: Well, I know that the -A option is equivilent to "ForwardAgent yes" in the config, but I don't see any equivilent to -t.
[19:20] <undecim> FoolishOwl: Also, sshfs or any other ssh based program should accept ssh options.
[19:20] <noren> ActionParsnip: is there a guide howto get the latest kernel
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Pietr: I hope you are kidding: http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=gb&client=ms-android-tmobile&source=android-browser-key&q=ubuntu+ar9285
[19:21] <ManDay> Is there a GUI frontend to mp3gain?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Oops wait
[19:21] <Blackcamaro8> @Ubuntu, I am booting from a USB flash drive.
[19:21] <uLinux> $HOME replaces /home/user right?
[19:21] <noren> Blackcamaro8: is that a live cd or full install
[19:22] <Synnyster> Hey, is there a text file or similar with my gnome panels configuration in? i got an invisible panel to the right of my screen i can't click or anything
[19:22] <rhonny> where i can configure proxy settings for amarok in gnome
[19:22] <undecim> uLinux: $HOME is a variable that contains your home directory.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Pietr: there is an official doc on the chip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285
[19:22] <Irunongames> How can I sync my iPod Touch 3.x with Ubuntu?
[19:22] <Blackcamaro8> @noren: It is a full installation of Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Pietr: did you websearch any at all
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> uLinux: try.. echo $HOME
[19:22] <undecim> uLinux: So if you type "echo $HOME" you will get "/home/username"
[19:22] <uLinux> ye
[19:22] <eye-zak> Synnyster, it is in gconf, use gconf-editor in gui
[19:22] <Synnyster> thanks eye-zak
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Rhonny: it may obey the http_proxy and ftp_proxy variables
[19:23] <new2irc> uLinux : that should be default, if you want to check, try 'echo $HOME'
[19:23] <lun4tic> hi, did you know that ubuntu install on a "naked" hard drive can be done fully remotely with teamviewer? :D
[19:23] <paladaxar> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and want some widgets...it doesn't look like there are any that come stock, so what program are most people using these days for widgets?
[19:23] <uLinux> so I should use $HOME because if I change username i dont have to update the shortcut
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> is there an "echo" in here?
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> :P
[19:23] <uLinux> shortcut path
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: just makes scripts easier to write. There are a few things like that and you can even make your own
[19:23] <undecim> paladaxar: gdesklets
[19:24] <Irunongames> Does anyone here sync their iPod with ubuntu?
[19:24] <undecim> paladaxar: there's also a few more "desklets" packages.
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: if the thing you are putting in the menu is in a users user folder then i'd reference it absolutely
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Irunongames: I wouldn't use an ipod if you payed me
[19:24] <paladaxar> thanks undecim
[19:25] <izishack> Please... good newsgroup mail client for Ubuntu  except seamonkay tnx ,;)
[19:25] <rhonny> ActionParsnip: It didn't work
[19:25] <ZykoticK9> paladaxar, i'm looking for an alternative to gdesklets (which doesn't work due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdesklets/+bug/569714) or Google Gadgets.  Hope you have better luck.
[19:25] <Irunongames> ActionParsnip,  then what do you use?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Izishack: thunderbird or akregator I think... search software centre
[19:25] <paladaxar> ZykoticK9: another one im seeing is screenlets
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Irunongames: cowon iaudio
[19:25] <paladaxar> looks decent from the screenshots
[19:26] <izishack> tnx actionparsnip
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Irunongames: supports ogg too :)
[19:26] <uLinux> ActionParsnip ln -s $HOME/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv $HOME/Desktop/Ventrilo
[19:26] <uLinux> it created in desktop
[19:26] <Irunongames> nice
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: sure
[19:26] <sno> hey does https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/switching/index.html open for anyone else? think i found a website problem
[19:26] <uLinux> ActionParsnip what's that users user
[19:26] <ZykoticK9> paladaxar, installing now, thanks.
[19:26] <uLinux> lol
[19:26] <Irunongames> But i got my iPod for free as a gift so I don't mind, only peice of iJunk I have
[19:27] <Irunongames> So I am stuck with the task of trying to sync it ><
[19:27] <Ubuntu> sno: 404 Not Found?
[19:27] <uLinux> ActionParsnip Is it a folder cointain the menu shortcuts?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: the $USER will be replaced by the username running the command
[19:27] <uLinux> containing
[19:27] <linxeh> can somenoe help me get X running again on my box? I did a dist-upgrade and now I get a dialog saying I have to reset my config, and then it just dies. Ive got an nvidia 9400m on 64bit lucid
[19:27] <raven> rhythmbox does not import anything (0/####) why?
[19:27] <sno> Ubuntu: yep exactly, will post to bug list but wanted to check it wasn't just me
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: you can use the desktop. Alacarte can make a menu item for it and then you can drag the menu item to the desktop
[19:28] <Blackcamaro8> linxeh: Try booting into recovery mode, and then starting X using the command "startx"
[19:28] <badcloud> transmission not tray icon? selected in 'desktop' trans. preferences
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Irunongames: try gtkpod
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> linxeh: try renaming your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then run the nvidia-settings config tool or whatever it's called. do this while not in X
[19:28] <uLinux> ActionParsnip but how do I create the shortcut in the Menu
[19:29] <badcloud> ubottu: could that have something to do with the command you gave me?
[19:29] <linxeh> onetinsoldier: ok I'lll give that a go, thanks
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> linxeh: roger. good luck. hope it helps :)
[19:29] <raven> rhythmbox does not import anything (0/####) why?
[19:30] <linxeh> onetinsoldier: yeah it did, thanks
[19:30] <onetinsoldier> linxeh: awesome :-)
[19:30] <uLinux> alacarte is to create shortcuts into the menus
[19:30] <linxeh> I've not run a linux desktop for some time (lots of linux servers, and last linux desktop was about 2 years ago, but without nvidia graphics)
[19:31] <linxeh> thanks
[19:31] <onetinsoldier> cheers, you're welcome
[19:31] <guntbert> Guest36344: don't do irc (or any regular apps) as root!
[19:31] <chazco> Hi... totem will only play the first second of some videos files before freezing. I have to change my sound profile from 5.1 to stereo to fix this... is there a proper work round?
[19:32] <bsmith093> what damage could irc do as root
[19:32] <sno> seems something already posted it, nice https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/575627
[19:32] <eye-zak> chazco, there are two settings .. one in totem preferences and one in pulseaudio .. are u changing both ?
[19:33] <chazco> eye-zak - the global one
[19:33] <chazco> Totem plays the first ~10 seconds in about 1 second and then just stops
[19:33] <linxeh> \
[19:33] <KrazyKriv|AWAY> Looking on getting my xbox 360 to detect ushare media streamer.  I have follow "how to's" and still no luck
[19:34] <FoolishOwl> I keep finding tutorials on using ssh config and going through a jump host using nc. Unfortunately nc isn't available on the jump host.
[19:34] <onetinsoldier> chazco: you might try 'winff'
[19:34] <eye-zak> chazco, afaik .. in that situation totem outputs stereo, and pulse tries to upconvert... i'm not sure where your issue is but my bet is pulseaudio
[19:35] <chazco> eye-zak - They're usually set to the same... e.g. the totem and system set to 5.1... if i change the system to only stereo it will play ok... i can then re-enable 5.1 and it will continue to play until i restart totem...
[19:35] <jooce> i not entending
[19:35] <jooce> nothing
[19:35] <Toaday> I can't get my MD devices to assemble before fstab is processed. Anyone know how to make that happen?
[19:35] <Loshki> !es | jooce
[19:35] <FoolishOwl> KrazyKriv, basically, it won't work. Microsoft doesn't  follow the rules on UPnP, so nothing that isn't Microsoft will work with it.
[19:36] <eye-zak> chazco, yeah ... changing the prefs mid-way will only change newly opened streams, explaining that part at least
[19:36] <Loshki> Toaday: what are MD devices?
[19:36] <Toaday> Multi-Disk
[19:36] <Toaday> Raid Arrays
[19:36] <onetinsoldier> ahh, hence... mdadm. now i see
[19:36] <onetinsoldier> md admin
[19:36] <Toaday> :)
[19:37] <uLinux> So what's the command to run a file?
[19:37] <Toaday> yessir
[19:37] <Toaday> Depends on what kind of file, uLinux
[19:37] <uLinux> executable
[19:37] <KrazyKriv|AWAY> FoolishOwl: there are no other apps that will allow me to media stream to xbox or even ps3?
[19:37] <uLinux> linux
[19:37] <Toaday> usually you just type it
[19:37] <Toaday> like "make"
[19:37] <KrazyKriv|AWAY> FoolishOwl: i have used a great streamer/transcriber that worked on Windows
[19:38] <eye-zak> KrazyKriv|AWAY, have u tried mediatomb .. i know they have specific ps3 and xbox hacks for the protocol
[19:38] <Loshki> Toaday: the usual workaround for that is to put the mount commands in a script which sleeps for a while before it issues the mount commands, and call this script IN THE BACKGROUND from /etc/rc.local
[19:38] <Toaday> Hrm
[19:38] <Toaday> ok, I'll try that, thanks Loshki
[19:38] <KrazyKriv|AWAY> eye-zak: u did suggest that yesterday as well.. i uninstalled mediatomb as it was not working either.. I will look into the hacks i guess
[19:38] <raffaele> if you have lucid, can you please try to install the 'foomatic-gui' package?
[19:38] <Loshki> Toaday: I have to go, but hopefully people here can help you with the details...
[19:38] <FoolishOwl> If you read through the docs on mediatomb, you'll find that it doesn't actually work with Xbox 360.
[19:39] <eye-zak> KrazyKriv|AWAY, i was reading the configs (i was using with XBMC) and there were setting not enabled by default that are for xbox/ps3
[19:39] <valentino_tuga> is it possible to configure more then one account in evolution?
[19:39] <raffaele> i cannot install it, it says a package is missing and cannot find it in the repository
[19:39] <Loshki> raffaele: which package is missing?
[19:40] <pl_net> hola
[19:40] <Toaday> !es | pl_net
[19:40] <raffaele> @Loshki: "foomatic-gui: Depends: python-gtkhtml2  but it is not installable"
[19:40] <aeon-ltd> hi
[19:41] <Toaday> So, anyone think they can help with my RAID issue?
[19:41] <Toaday> I can't get my MD devices to assemble before fstab is processed. Anyone know how to make that happen?
[19:41] <onetinsoldier> raffaele: i don't show 'python-gtkhtml2' as being available either with an apt-cache search on it
[19:42] <Loshki> raffaele: interesting, seems to be missing from lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-gtkhtml2&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all. If you're brave, you could try the karmic version. And/or report it as a bug...
[19:42] <Toaday> I can't get my MD devices to assemble before fstab is processed. Anyone know how to make that happen?
[19:43] <raffaele> @Loshki: how can i report it?
[19:43] <PeterOyore> Hello Everyone.....Is there a way to to Chat on Yahoo messenger with Ubuntu (updated V8)?
[19:43] <Konfused> Hi all.
[19:43] <Loshki> Toaday: not happy with the background script solution?
[19:43] <guntbert> raffaele: nearly same issue here (except: foomatic-gui: Depends: python-gtkhtml2 which is a virtual package.)  - consider filing a bug
[19:43] <guntbert> !bug | raffaele
[19:44] <blue_anna> PeterOyore: Empathy supports yahoo
[19:44] <w3bcrawler> is there a particular folder where configuration files are typically stored?
[19:44] <jean-pierresainf> ok a question completely out of context
[19:44] <jean-pierresainf> is this is ok
[19:44] <kermit> Toaday: as i'm using an md device for root, i pass arguments to the kernel at boot.. though if you arent there might be a better way.
[19:44] <Loshki> raffaele: try one of the ways here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:44] <Toaday> Loshki, I added mdadm --assemble --scan to my rc.local and ubuntu still complained on boot, as I would like my fstab handle the mounting of the array
[19:44] <jean-pierresainf> anyone familiar with vmware fusion on mac
[19:44] <guntbert> jean-pierresainf: that is off-topic here
[19:44] <Toaday> And I'm pretty sure mdadm.conf is setup properly
[19:45] <blue_anna> PeterOyore: or do you mean to use the actual yahoo binary? you'd do well to go to yahoo and see if it is downloadable  :P
[19:45] <PeterOyore> blue_anna Empathy on Ubuntu already?
[19:45] <jean-pierresainf> I know
[19:45] <blue_anna> PeterOyore: yup, should work out of the box
[19:45] <Konfused> Has anyone tried to install Lucid on a Sony VAio PGC-TR1A?  It has an Intel 855GM graphics adapter and I can't seem to get the intel driver to work.
[19:45] <jean-pierresainf> just asking a pointer to another room
[19:45] <PeterOyore> Thanks blue_anna
[19:45] <Loshki> Toaday: what do you have in fstab for mounting the device(s)?
[19:45] <eye-zak> Konfused, see lucid release notes .. there are issues with intel graphics maybe
[19:46] <Konfused> I looked at the release notes, and the wiki, and the rest of the documentation, including the docs from Xorg and still no joy.
[19:46] <Cosmo`> hi chaps, is there an option i can put in fstab so when a file systems device is not present it doesn't stop the system from booting?
[19:46] <Toaday> Loshki, /dev/md0  /media/Public  ext4  errors=remount-ro,nosuid,uhelper=udisks,nodev  0  0
[19:47] <eye-zak> Konfused, can u use X at all ?
[19:47] <Konfused> I also did a far amount of Googling.
[19:47] <Konfused> Yes, with the vesa driver.
[19:47] <Loshki> Toaday: does the mount work when you issue 'sudo mount -a' after the box has booted?
[19:47] <jean-pierresainf> ok
[19:47] <Toaday> Yes, as long as the array is assembled
[19:47] <guntbert> jean-pierresainf: try /msg alis list *vmware*
[19:47] <jean-pierresainf> thank you
[19:47] <jean-pierresainf> I will
[19:47] <Alan> Does anybody know how i can force using the mesa software renderer for a particular application when my usual driver is the proprietary ATI driver?  for some reason LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH and LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE are being ignored (LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE works on my intel-chipset laptop)
[19:47] <uLinux> Toaday the file is an .usr
[19:47] <Konfused> If I take a bare bones xorg.conf that works with the vesa driver and substitute intel for vesa, the system hangs.
[19:47] <eye-zak> Konfused, hmm haven't had that specific hardware ... not sure if u've tried UXA workaround
[19:47] <uLinux> how can I make a shortcut for it
[19:48] <Konfused> It isn't just X that fails, the whole system hangs.
[19:48] <Toaday> uLinux, Is it a binary file?
[19:48] <Loshki> Toaday: how long does it take for the array to assemble?
[19:48] <eye-zak> Konfused, the xvesa config will probably not work, have u tried changing the acceleration (UXA/EXA/XXA)
[19:48] <Konfused> It seems like the intel kernel module is somehow causing the freeze.  Also, there are no logged errors.
[19:48] <uLinux> Toaday it says executable
[19:48] <Toaday> Loshki, 2-3 seconds
[19:48] <Konfused> I have tried turning all acceleration off.
[19:49] <Toaday> Have you gotten it to run yet, uLinux? And are you trying to do this on the command line, or in the gui?
[19:49] <eye-zak> Konfused, afaik (my intel is a server) the best acceleration option in xorg/although buggy also/ is UXA
[19:49] <Konfused> It is my opinion by the way that even a very bad video driver should not hang the whole system.
[19:49] <uLinux> Toaday i can make it work using Terminal or double click on it
[19:50] <eye-zak> Konfused, yes .. but it happens to me even with proprietary nVidia
[19:50] <Konfused> eye-zak: I don't have any opinion with regard to acceleration at this point.  I was just trying to get the system to work with absolutely no acceleration first before I decided how to tune it.
[19:50] <uLinux> Toaday and i was trying to add a shortcut to menu using Main Menu gui
[19:50] <Loshki> Toaday: ok, so from /etc/rc.local, call a script e.g. script.sh which says 'sleep 5; mount -a'. Call it as 'script.sh &' so it doesn't hang the rest of the boot and runs in the background....
[19:50] <Toaday> uLinux, you should just be able to add a launcher
[19:51] <eye-zak> Konfused, i know.. but afaik the intel UXA pipeline is the most stable and currently mantained and is recommended for that driver
[19:51] <vbl> I have a doubt in ALSA Regarding kernal support.. Can anyone help me..
[19:51] <Loshki> Toaday: bump up the sleep until it works...
[19:51]  * Macharo is now away: brb
[19:51] <gally> hi
[19:51] <Toaday> Loshki, so I remove the array from the fstab?
[19:51] <Konfused> eye-zak, do you mean to say that it is possible that the system might work with XUA acceleration better than it works with no acceleration at all?
[19:52] <uLinux> Toaday Launcher >  Application and the command ?
[19:52] <cyberfux> hi folx
[19:52] <uLinux> wait
[19:52] <Toaday> The command is the /pathtofile/file.usr
[19:52] <eye-zak> Konfused, no acceleration means XXA (old and not really supported by intel ) tbw these are 2D acceleration methods, not 3D
[19:52] <slow-motion> hi
[19:53] <vbl> My doubt is For example.. in Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS By default 2.6.24.19 is there and ALSA Version 1.016. When I check the kernal support of this. It says  2.6.23 or earlier
[19:53] <cyberfux> I've got a prob: ASUS K50IJ Laptop running Ubuntu 10.04 and i can't get that friggin hibernation to work, tried nearly everything (blacklisting, s2d etc.) but not works 3 real... anyone any idea?
[19:53] <Konfused> eye-zak, I understand that those are 2D methods.
[19:53] <Konfused> All right, I will try XUA.  I'll be back in a little while..
[19:53] <eye-zak> Konfused, i can't suggest much else ... haven't used X ever on my intel
[19:54] <Toaday> uLinux, The command is the /pathtofile/file.usr
[19:54] <viesturs> hey - is there way how to detect from CLI correctly wireless encoding version for my wpa_supliccant script. The problem is to detect correctly what security router uses
[19:54] <raffaele> see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnochm/+bug/538773
[19:54] <viesturs> i can detect WEP ar WPA
[19:54] <viesturs> or
[19:54] <Toaday> Loshki, so I remove the device from the fstab?
[19:54] <Loshki> Toaday: no, just leave it in the fstab, so that when the 'mount -a' command executes, it will try and mount anything in fstab that isn't already mounted....
[19:54] <viesturs> but there is difference between wpa wpa2 wpa+psk utt
[19:55] <FotherMucker> Hello people of the universe.
[19:55] <eye-zak> viesturs, WPA2 has an RSN, WPA uses a different field
[19:55] <Toaday> Loshki, Alright, but that will still hang the system on boot if I have it in fstab, right?
[19:55] <viesturs> eye-zak: i understand that
[19:55] <viesturs> but how can i detect it before connection
[19:55] <Toaday> Loshki, If the device doesn't exist yet
[19:55] <viesturs> because i have to specifie for wpa_suplicant conf
[19:56] <viesturs> before i connect
[19:56] <Loshki> Toaday: If the device doesn't exist, boot might complain. Does that happen currently?
[19:56] <viesturs> before i try to connect
[19:56] <FotherMucker> How do I back up my Windows harddrive using Ubuntu?
[19:56] <Toaday> uLinux, You making any progress
[19:56] <uLinux> Toaday Failed to execute child process "/home/*/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv.usr" (Permission denied)
[19:56] <void__> Wow, the new Thunderbird release is actually quite good!
[19:56] <viesturs> FotherMucker:  for full backups i use clonezilla
[19:56] <Loshki> FotherMucker: please choose a more g-rated nick for this channel...
[19:56] <Toaday> Loshki, Yes, that is my issue. I'm sorry I didn't explain in more detail
[19:56] <FotherMucker> viesturs: Okay thanks.
[19:57] <Toaday> uLinux, Do you normally need to run this as root for it to work?
[19:57] <viesturs> eye-zak: any suggestions ?
[19:57] <FotherMucker> viesturs: After that, will I be able to perform a clean install of Windows 7 without losing anything?
[19:57] <uLinux> Toaday no I just double click it
[19:57] <viesturs> FotherMucker: read clonezilla descriptions
[19:57] <FotherMucker> viesturs: Thanks again.
[19:58] <viesturs> FotherMucker: maybe duplicity over rsync will be inaf good for you - for data backups
[19:58] <viesturs> for full backup i suggest clonezilla
[19:58] <Loshki> Toaday: ok, then we need a slight variation on our script. Take the mount line out of fstab so it doesn't hang, and instead of 'mount -a' in the background script, use: mount  /dev/md0  /media/Public
[19:58] <viesturs> there is also ubuntu based stable version for clonezilla
[19:58] <Toaday> Loshki, OK
[19:58] <FotherMucker> viesturs: It's basically my whole computer. So it may take a while.
[19:59] <onetinsoldier> i've heard good things about 'remastersys' for backing up debian/ubuntu systems
[19:59] <viesturs> FotherMucker: it depends from HDD speed, data amount and data transfer rate
[19:59] <mv0> hi, im having problems with music playback on my usb headphones
[19:59] <mv0> it was as simple as moving a stream with pulseaudio
[19:59] <mv0> but thats not there anymore
[19:59] <mv0> is there an updated guide for this?
[19:59] <mv0> or anyone know the fix?
[19:59] <viesturs> mv0:  try alsa-mixer - helped me for problems with HDMI audio
[19:59] <cyberfux> is it just me or is ubuntu gettin worse from version to version *grrrr
[19:59] <viesturs> ofcorse if your usb headphones are found by system
[20:00] <Toaday> Loshki, Can we bring this to PM so I have all your info in another tab?
[20:00] <mv0> they are there
[20:00] <guntbert> cyberfux:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:00] <mv0> how do i switch from the standard card
[20:00] <uLinux> Toaday I got the file path and type ./ventrilo_srv
[20:00] <mv0> to the usb headphones
[20:00] <uLinux> go to
[20:00] <mv0> in alsamixer
[20:00] <mv0> nm
[20:00] <mv0> but i installed pulseaudio
[20:01] <Loshki> Toaday: probably better to keep it in the main channel, as I have to go to the airport any moment now. Would you like a recap?
[20:01] <mv0> do i remove pulseaudio?
[20:01] <viesturs> eye-zak: ok, but is there way how to detect correctly encryption before connection to wireless network
[20:01] <guntbert> !enter | mv0
[20:01] <cyberfux> guntbert yes, like said b4: Asus K50IJ, Hibernation don't work, tried everything... Normally i am the one asked but in this case i am dizzled
[20:01] <knome> hey, how can i listen to the audio sent to line-in?
[20:02] <_pg_> hello all, where can I change the default behavior for when I plug in my iPhone? it currently launches rythmbox but I would rather it not.
[20:02] <mv0> got it thank you
[20:02] <FotherMucker> O.O
[20:02] <Raccoon1400> how do I change runlevel without rebooting? telinit doesn't work anymore.
[20:02] <viesturs> _pg_: one of solutions is to define with udev what to launch, when device is connected
[20:02] <_pg_> viesturs, how do I do that?
[20:02] <guntbert> cyberfux: no real help from me - just to clarify: suspend to ram works?
[20:03] <ikonia> FotherMucker: what ?
[20:03] <FotherMucker> ikonia: rsync says "Out of memory"
[20:03] <ikonia> FotherMucker: you're not using the right syntax
[20:03] <_pg_> viesturs, is udev an application?
[20:03] <FotherMucker> ...
[20:03] <viesturs> FotherMucker: you want to make full system backup with rsync ?
[20:03] <Toaday> I think I've got it now, Loshki, I scrolled up :-)
[20:03] <FotherMucker> visturs: Yes...?
[20:03] <Toaday> Thanks Loshki
[20:03] <cyberfux> guntbert yep but i don't like it, the lights on the powerbutton and in front are blinking and using power... also hibernat (the script) works, as do s2d (both sudo'd)
[20:03] <FotherMucker> viesturs* sorry
[20:04] <ikonia> FotherMucker: you've been told how to do this, and no-one mentioned rsync
[20:04] <Toaday> gotta try a reboot now
[20:04] <FotherMucker> ikonia: Actually, they did.
[20:04] <viesturs> _pg_:  try to google udev rules - it is a deamon what attaches and detaches devices
[20:04] <ikonia> FotherMucker: no-one in this channel told you to use rsync
[20:04] <viesturs> and there is possible to configure what to launch
[20:04] <FotherMucker> ikonia: "maybe duplicity over rsync will be inaf good for you - for data backups"
[20:04] <_pg_> viesturs, oh my god why did I check that little box
[20:04] <Raccoon1400> okay, so telinit does change the runlevel, but it's not killing X. How can I kill X?
[20:05] <viesturs> ikonia: i mentioned rsync, but for data backups, not system
[20:05] <ikonia> viesturs: exactly
[20:05] <_pg_> viesturs, this is really complicated for such a small thing. Can I just get that dialogue box back?
[20:05] <viesturs> FotherMucker: take clonezilla and basta
[20:05] <cyberfux> guntbert i also blacklistet asus_acpi and used asus_laptop and tried nearly anything i could finde in 2 languages but nothing works... tried it with 9.10 and it looks like it works (dont want to install it *g*)
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> Raccoon1400, "sudo service gdm stop" should work
[20:05] <viesturs> _pg_:  sorry, all my devices are CLI only - try to explane you over GUI something :)
[20:06] <viesturs> is to hard
[20:06] <viesturs> :)
[20:06] <Toaday> well, didn't hang the boot, but also didn't mount the device
[20:06] <_pg_> viesturs, haha wow. cli makes me want to cry
[20:06] <Toaday> didn't assemble the array either
[20:06] <viesturs> _pg_: me to sometimes :D
[20:06] <onetinsoldier> _pg_: what's happened? what's the problem?
[20:06] <guntbert> cyberfux: I didn't want to offer a workaround :-)  so  you are stuck because the closing of the lid/ selecting the hibernate option from the menu calls a different procedure than the CLI?
[20:06] <_pg_> anyone know of something like "preferred applications" that handles default launching behavior for iPods? I set mine to rythmbox and now I hate myself for it
[20:07] <viesturs> for example now  with my problems with wireless :)
[20:07] <viesturs> _pg_: if i remeber correctly there should be something like that in system-> preferences
[20:07] <BitEncrypt_> where does the window go if i minimize it in KDE
[20:07] <chiiiiiz> hello!!!
[20:07] <AhmedBH> hi
[20:08] <AhmedBH> i can't connect apache2 not even by 127.0,0.1
[20:08] <_pg_> onetinsoldier, there is, but not specifically for "when ipod is connected launch rythmbox etc" I checked the "always" box at the dialogue. huge mistake. never commit like that
[20:08] <compaq> what is the area on a gnome panel, where messenger and network applet go called?
[20:08] <ikonia> AhmedBH: then it's not running, or bound to a different address
[20:08] <viesturs> ok, looks like nobody can help on my problem - as always
[20:08] <cyberfux> guntbert exactly: hibernation starts and wakes up direct after by itself - a known bug as it seems. funny thing is: it worked under 9.10
[20:08] <AhmedBH> ikonia:  how to i check
[20:08] <AhmedBH> on which
[20:08] <ikonia> AhmedBH: well, the config file will tell you which ip it's bound to, ps -ef | grep apache will show the processes running,
[20:09] <onetinsoldier> _pg_: roger. i'm sure it's fixable.. not sure where right offhand though
[20:09] <_pg_> onetinsoldier, i still get the prompt about "what do you want to use to manage the photos on here" but not the music part
[20:09] <viesturs> AhmedBH: are you sure that your apache is running ?
[20:09] <chiiiiiz> Running Lucid, I can't change the default app that opens a MP3 file... in fact, I can't change any default app for any mime type... everytime I have a error message that says that I do not have the rights to create the file « /home/fred/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list.HS8VCV »... any idea?
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, nautilus / Edit / Preferences / Media tab
[20:09] <AhmedBH> no its not running it says fail
[20:09] <zaafouri> hi every body
[20:09] <ikonia> AhmedBH: what says "fail"
[20:10] <AhmedBH> apache while enabling
[20:10] <Loshki> Toaday: maybe you didn't wait long enough. Up the sleep count?
[20:10] <ikonia> AhmedBH: what command did you use ?
[20:10] <dark_> hellow
[20:10] <dark_> all
[20:10] <chiiiiiz> I tried also using Ubuntu Tweak: same problem, I can't change them
[20:10] <viesturs> _pg_: nautilus is a default file browser for gnome desktop :)
[20:10] <onetinsoldier> _pg_: you might try System --> Perferences --> Preferred Applications
[20:10] <dark_> im new to ubuntu n need a little help
[20:10] <AhmedBH> ikonia: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[20:10] <guntbert> cyberfux: on my system (lenovo T60, 9.10) exactly that happens sometime with suspend to ram - only remedy is a reboot then -- there seem to be  modules preventing a clean suspend to ...  -- I know its no help but maybe you get additional info
[20:10] <cyberfux> viesturs tried it via right-click or any other way?
[20:10] <noren> !help | dark_
[20:10] <ikonia> AhmedBH: well, I didn't tell you to do that, but ok, well done, now you know it's not running
[20:11] <onetinsoldier> _pg_: or what ZykoticK9 said.. he probably knows better
[20:11] <_pg_> ZykoticK9, yo is maa herrooooo :D
[20:11] <viesturs> cyberfux: about what you are speaking ?
[20:11] <AhmedBH> ikonia: it was running before but not now huh
[20:11] <_pg_> onetinsoldier, lol thanks anyway. i looked there first haha
[20:11] <viesturs> !help
[20:11] <_pg_> banshee doesnt play with iPods?
[20:11] <cyberfux> guntbert thx, it is like i thought a common error, i think i'll try to call the isle of man on monday, perhaps there is anyone known to that prob
[20:11] <ikonia> AhmedBH: have you checked it's running already ? it can't start if it's already running (which is why I gave you commands to use)
[20:11] <Toaday> How do I "call" a script in rc.local?
[20:11] <onetinsoldier> _pg_: roger. glad to see you got help and got it solved :-)
[20:11] <cyberfux> viesturs the way you want to change the "Open with" App
[20:11] <dark_> when im tring to install my updates in ubuntu im getting a error...The upgrade needs a total of 504M free space on disk '/'. Please free at least an additional 485M of disk space on '/'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[20:12] <viesturs> cyberfux: that wasnt my problem
[20:12] <Toaday> How do I "call" a script in rc.local?
[20:12] <dark_> plz help some1
[20:12] <viesturs> i have problem with my wireless connection over CLI
[20:12] <cyberfux> viesturs oops, sry. then i used the wrong nick, it's freaking "loud" here atm
[20:12] <viesturs> dark_: hmm the errors says where is the problem
[20:12] <viesturs> cyberfux: aha
[20:13] <noren> dark_: you need space in the / (root) partion at least 500 bm so that the upgrade can be downloaded first
[20:13] <Wilhelm-Scream> Can I safely remove rhythmbox and movie player?
[20:13] <Toaday> How do I "call" a script in rc.local?
[20:13] <_pg_> does banshee see/manage iPods? rythmbox does.....
[20:13] <Loshki> Toaday: make the script, make it executable (chmod +x script) then write its name in /etc/rc.local. Use the full path to the file...
[20:13] <noren> Wilhelm-Scream: yes you can
[20:13] <Hutley> where i can found the ubuntu developer summit presentations for download?
[20:13] <dark_> but im haveing about 14gb of space in that drive
[20:13] <Wilhelm-Scream> Software center won't let me
[20:13] <cyberfux> Wilhelm-Scream if you don't use them, u ca, i do it all the time and use Songbird and VLC
[20:13] <Toaday> Loshki, got it, thanks
[20:13] <dark_> where i installed it along with windows
[20:14] <Wilhelm-Scream> How do I uninstall both when software center won't let me?
[20:14] <viesturs> Ok, i will ask one more time - people are joining and lefting channell nonstop
[20:14] <_pg_> banshee has a plugin for iPods but hes not seeing mine......
[20:14] <uLinux> Toaday I couldn't get it work... the shortcut for the executable file
[20:14] <noren> dark_: while installing ubuntu did u got a separte partition for root
[20:14] <isomerc> NO DREADLOCK FAGGOT NIGGERS! NDFN!!
[20:14] <isomerc> NO DREADLOCK FAGGOT NIGGERS! NDFN!!
[20:14] <onetinsoldier> Wilhelm-Scream: you know how to use the command line somewhat?
[20:14] <Wilhelm-Scream> yes I do
[20:14] <dark_> no noren
[20:15]  * thb|Ou7 Beach!
[20:15] <dark_> noren no i installed it in the same drive as windiws
[20:15] <Toaday> Loshki, does rc.local get processed before the fstab?
[20:15] <noren> Wilhelm-Scream: sudo apt-get remove --purge rythmbox
[20:15] <Wilhelm-Scream> K
[20:15] <viesturs> Is there way how to correctly detect correct encoding for Wireless connection over CLI. The problem in details is, that i can detect WPA or WEP only, not exactly what WPA, what is must have to correctly configure wpa_supllicant for wireless connection. it is for my bash wireless script
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> Wilhelm-Scream: ok, close out Software Center. tell me what happens when you use command on the command line. you will probably need to pastebin the output. try like...  dpkg --purge <package_name>
[20:15] <erpingham> Wilhelm-Scream: sudo apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox
[20:16] <noren> dark_: i guess u did a wubi install and did not make a separate partion for installing ubuntu
[20:16] <viesturs> correct my if i am wrong somewhere
[20:16] <Wilhelm-Scream> K, it's gone
[20:16] <Loshki> Toaday: no, /etc/rc.local is generally the last thing to be processed so that networks and disks are ready...
[20:16] <Wilhelm-Scream> thanks a ton
[20:16] <dark_> yes
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> cheers
[20:16] <dark_> coz whn i tried to install it in a different drive
[20:16] <_pg_> so rythmbox supports iphone but banshee is way cooler than rythmbox.... what. a. paradox. lol
[20:17] <dark_> it gave error that the partion type was not supported
[20:17] <Wilhelm-Scream> It can't find movie player
[20:17] <erpingham> _pg_: I think iPhone support was only recently added.
[20:17] <Wilhelm-Scream> Is it called totem instead?
[20:17] <Ganang> is there any way to perform a serch within a gnome terminal output?
[20:17] <erpingham> Wilhelm-Scream: yes.
[20:17] <Wilhelm-Scream> OK
[20:17] <Wilhelm-Scream> Thanks a bunch guys!
[20:17] <coz_> Ganang,  you mean search what is already in the terminal??
[20:17] <Ganang> coz_: exactly
[20:17] <Buhmillion> hey you, i know who you are.
[20:18] <erpingham> Ganang: maybe Edit->Select All, then paste it into a text editor and search there.
[20:18] <guntbert> !ot | Buhmillion
[20:18] <noren> dark_: installing ubuntu in wubi is good for testing it out for ppl new to linux, i wud suggest a do a separte and clean install of ubuntu..
[20:18] <Ganang> erpingham: yeah, but i would like to avoid this step...that is what i am doing right now...but i get tired of doing it all the time
[20:18] <dark_> noren u thr
[20:18] <coz_> Ganang,   no  unfortuanately  I have been wanting that for years   there is another terminal emulator and I cant think of its name right off hand that used to have search capaibilies withing the terminal itself
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> Ganang: do you meant to 'find' a file? you want to learn the find command? is that it?
[20:19] <leachim6> hey
[20:19] <sebsebseb> dark_: in the long run better to do a proper install from Live CD :)
[20:19] <leachim6> how come the new GDM can't be customized?????
[20:19] <dark_> u mean in a new drive
[20:19] <viesturs> fck, looks like i have to figure out by my self tonight :/
[20:19] <sebsebseb> leachim6: since  the features weren't proggrammed in
[20:19] <coz_> onetinsoldier,  I believe he wants to search what is already insdie the terminal window   say after a compoile you want to run "find" to find a specific word or phrase in the compile text
[20:19] <sebsebseb> leachim6: you can change background and thats about it
[20:19] <noren> dark_: for ubuntu u wud need ext3/ext4 partition which u can make easily at the start of installing the ubuntu
[20:19] <dark_> im not very much familier with it yet that's why faceing probs.
[20:19] <leachim6> sebsebseb,  why would they take features OUT
[20:19] <dark_> okey
[20:19] <leachim6> that doesn't make much sense
[20:20] <sebsebseb> leachim6: since they wanted cleaner code
[20:20] <Night_Rider> hi ; guys
[20:20] <leachim6> sebsebseb, what the fck....
[20:20] <ikonia> leachim6: it's to help with porting to gnome3 - please discuss in ##gnome
[20:20] <ikonia> leachim6: please stop using that language
[20:20] <Ganang> onetinsoldier: no sometimes i cannot perform any command operation. For example, i have an open gnome-terminal which has some text refering to an output of a mining algorithm....there are several lines and i want to search specific words....
[20:20] <guntbert> coz_: in that case he should use <command> | less
[20:20] <leachim6> ikonia, I censored it :/
[20:20] <Ganang> coz_: exactly!
[20:20] <sebsebseb> leachim6: GDM 2 is a complete rewrite of the old one, if you want a good looking log in screen by default, install KDM
[20:20] <ikonia> leachim6: don't use it
[20:20] <onetinsoldier> coz_: hmmm. stuff that's already been printed out on the console? seems like that output would need to be save to a file first
[20:20] <leachim6> fair, sorry for seeming like a troll.
[20:20] <leachim6> I'll go ask in ##gnome
[20:20] <qwerity> hi all))
[20:20] <dark_> one more silly Que. how do i make a ext3 partition
[20:21] <erpingham> Ganang: Once you do <command> | less you can search by typing a /, then the text you want to search for
[20:21] <coz_> onetinsoldier,  well one terminal emulatore name  "terminator" used to have a find function just for that
[20:21] <ikonia> dark_: the installer will do it for you
[20:21] <leachim6> open up gparted, select your empty space, right click and click "creat fs" ext3
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> coz_: oh! interesting
[20:21] <noren> dark_: select guided partition and install this will get you both the ubuntu and windows both on the same drive, but they will be installed on different partition on ur drive
[20:21] <coz_> Ganang,   the terminal emulator is named      "terminator"
[20:21] <dominicdinada> !shortcuts
[20:21] <tyranos> Ganang, u can try installing terminator which allows you to search in a terminal windows, or better learn about piping commands like erpingham said
[20:21] <kk_hacker> can some one help me, I am really frustrated for last 12 hours.  is there a way to get my lenovo s10 access wifi internet?  I am using ubuntu 10.04
[20:21] <dominicdinada> !alias
[20:21] <coz_> Ganang,  last time i tried it I couldnt find the "find" function but it is advertised as having it
[20:21] <sebsebseb> dark_: as of 9.10 the default file system is Ext4
[20:22] <tyranos> strg+shift+f i thnik
[20:22] <dominicdinada> hmmm how to create shortcuts,or alias' like pointing to folders? windows or mac like ?
[20:22] <tyranos> ctrl+shift+f
[20:22] <coz_> Ganang,    http://software.jessies.org/terminator/
[20:22] <livingdaylight> hello
[20:22] <Ganang> tyranos: yeah guys but as i said the i cannot issue a command because the server is running on this gnome-terminal...i cannot stop to issue a command....
[20:22] <Ganang> coz_: ill give a look in terminator
[20:22] <dark_> so i should choose a new partion and format it to the ext4 format
[20:22] <dark_> will that do people
[20:22] <noren> dark_: use the ubuntu desktop installer cd >> start the installation process and use the guided partiton everything wud be automated almost, including the ext partition and installing ubuntu
[20:22] <aguitel> how to find fastest mirror in ubuntu ?
[20:23] <ikonia> aguitel: it does it for you at install time
[20:23] <dark_> okey thanx noren
[20:23] <aguitel> ikonia, no
[20:23] <coz_> Ganang,  on that home page link I gave you it definitly says it has a find function as well as other parameters  not found in typical terminal emulator
[20:23] <livingdaylight> how can I disable keyring?
[20:23] <ikonia> aguitel: yes
[20:23] <aguitel> ikonia, it find updates only
[20:23] <noren> dark_: ur welcome
[20:23] <dark_> thanx i'll do it right away
[20:23] <kk_hacker> aguitel: that's why u select your country
[20:23] <dark_> byee all
[20:23] <onetinsoldier> Ganang: i hear you. not sure how to help. these other folks seem to have some idea for you though. my first thought was what erpingham already suggested. hopefully terminator might be an option for you as well. good luck :)
[20:23] <ikonia> aguitel: it sets up apt to go to your closest mirror, which in theory should be the fastest
[20:24] <Ganang> thanks  guys!
[20:24] <InvaderZim> Lucid fresh install doesn't login! Screen blinks and returns to kdm login. Karmic worked fine. Help?
[20:24] <slavik> InvaderZim: awesome nick ... did you upgrade? or a clean install complete with formatting?
[20:24] <noren> aguitel: is there any script to do it frm command line ~~ finding the fastest mirror ??
[20:24] <livingdaylight> when I bootup laptop network is always disabled by keyring. Can I disable it?
[20:25] <dominicdinada> !keyring
[20:25] <kk_hacker> seems no one would have a solution for my wifi problem.
[20:25] <aguitel> noren, this i want to find
[20:25] <InvaderZim> slavik: he thx... first upgrade, after not working, complete fresh install from cd with formatting, same issue
[20:25] <kk_hacker> i will perhaps have to throw my s10
[20:25] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: whats the problem
[20:25] <slavik> InvaderZim: what kind of video card?
[20:25] <InvaderZim> slavik: savage
[20:25] <dominicdinada> livingdaylight: there is a way i just forget how as i did mine long ago :/
[20:25] <noren> aguitel: oh sorry i know the gui way but cant find the CLI way to do that
[20:25] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: i can't connect to wifi using my lenovo s10 on Ubuntu 10.04
[20:25] <Gartral> alright.. how do i scan for wireless BSSIDs from console?
[20:26] <coz_> Ganang,  just installed terminator and it definitly has a find function :)  yeah
[20:26] <livingdaylight> dominicdinada: lol, thx for the assurance
[20:26] <Night_Rider> !wpa2 | livingdaylight
[20:26] <slavik> InvaderZim: wait ... is this like 15 year old card or something?
[20:26] <InvaderZim> slavik: weird thing is, if I console login as root, stop kdm, rmmod savage, modprobe savagefb, and STARTX (kdm hangs) kde works fine...
[20:26] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: do you know any way out
[20:26] <InvaderZim> slavik: not 15 year old, its onboard from a... maybe 6 year old pc
[20:26] <livingdaylight> Night_Rider: you think that webring comes under that?
[20:26] <aguitel> noren, debian use apt-spy
[20:26] <Gartral> alright.. how do i scan for wireless ESSIDs from console?
[20:26] <InvaderZim> slavik: it did work fine with jaunty and karmic
[20:26] <slavik> hmm, InvaderZim, try blacklisting the savage module ...
[20:27] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: have you checked your chipset?
[20:27] <tmas> I have a MacBook Pro 5,5(mid-2009) and I need to boot from a USB disk. Can anyone help? I believe a boot CD is needed.
[20:27] <kk_hacker> Gartral: sudo iwlist scanning
[20:27] <slavik> InvaderZim: something with the driver most likely ... tried a search on google for savage lucid kdm?
[20:27] <noren> InvaderZim: i think its i95 issue
[20:27] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: yes
[20:27] <kk_hacker> brodcom
[20:27] <InvaderZim> slavik: I tried... i mean, I went to blacklist.conf and blacklist savage, but X or kdm still used it... drm called it or something
[20:27] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: i even installed the drivers
[20:27] <dark_> one more Que.
[20:27] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: which broadcom chipset?
[20:27] <InvaderZim> noren: what you mean
[20:28] <slavik> hmm, that shouldn't be possible ...
[20:28] <InvaderZim> slavik: yes there's mostly nothing
[20:28] <dark_> do i boot the cd n go with the installation like i did with the wubi.exe
[20:28] <dark_> or smthing else
[20:28] <kk_hacker> Gartral: then you will have to do iwconfig to set it up from command line
[20:28] <InvaderZim> slavik: occasionally on Xorg log I could see fatal error, some framemapping range issue with the driver. but its not logging like that anymore
[20:29] <noren> InvaderZim: just check if u are able to start x in the recovery mode, try adding i915.modeset=1 to kernel booting option
[20:29] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: ah, just switched off the s10 out of frustration
[20:29] <coz_> Ganang,  i installed the one directly from their site however   you can download the deb package from there
[20:29] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: will find out the specs
[20:29] <tmas> Does anyone know how to make a Grub boot CD in Mac OS X?
[20:29] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: actually it worked with 9.04
[20:29] <InvaderZim> noren: with that dot? exactly as 'i915.modeset=1' ?
[20:29] <leachim6> can I install the OLD version of GDM ?
[20:29] <dark_> do i boot the cd n go with the installation like i did with the wubi.exe
[20:29] <dark_> do i boot the cd n go with the installation like i did with the wubi.exe
[20:29] <noren> InvaderZim: i915.modeset=1
[20:29] <dark_> or smthing else
[20:30] <FloodBot1> dark_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: it should work with 10.4 but you need get the correct drivers...
[20:30] <InvaderZim> noren: ok let me try it
[20:30] <dark_> sorry man
[20:30] <noren> dark_: what cd are u having, i hope its bootable,
[20:30] <dark_> it is
[20:30] <slavik> dark_: boot from CD and read the menu :)
[20:30] <InvaderZim> noren: oh, and I can't use failsafe. pc hangs/freezes... from recovery mode happens the same stuff
[20:30] <tmas> !help
[20:30] <dark_> okey n choose a new partition with enough space
[20:30] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: mean while here is the problem.  after installing my wifi drivers I can see the access point listed but when I click on the access point the wifi requests the ip and keeps requesting.
[20:31] <dark_> that will solve my prob
[20:31] <dark_> /?
[20:31] <Night_Rider> ! key-ring
[20:31] <noren> dark_: yes
[20:31] <dark_> thnx norem
[20:31] <dark_> thanx a lot guys
[20:31] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: you could very well be using the incorrect encryption... theres like 20 variants
[20:31] <noren> dark_: are u trying to install it right now at some ither comupter
[20:31] <guntbert> Night_Rider: what is your problem?
[20:32] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: 40/128 wep incription on both ends.  and it is an ad hoc connection
[20:32] <kk_hacker> key is 1234567890
[20:32] <tmas> Are there any mac users here who know how to boot from a USB drive?
[20:32] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: there is still like 5 options to wep
[20:32] <ikonia> tmas: try in ##apple
[20:32] <noren> InvaderZim: try adding the i915.modeset=1 to kernel and booting
[20:32] <dominicdinada> there is passphrase, hex, text
[20:32] <jasunto> anyone running 10.04 on mac mini
[20:32] <tmas> ikonia: What do you mean?
[20:33] <jasunto> slightly older, no nvidia 1.83ghz
[20:33] <ikonia> jasunto: not at this moment but have been
[20:33] <ikonia> tmas: mac/apple help is in the channel ##apple
[20:33] <nyde> im running 10.04 on my ipad
[20:33] <lungan> I removed pulseaudio with purge, and now I did get the spotify to work, but now my audio controler in tray disappeared, how to I fix that?
[20:33] <ikonia> nyde: no you'e not
[20:33] <jasunto> have you done any mods to make it perform better or take advantage of any mac stuff built into
[20:33] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: pass phrase is 1234567890 and both ends it is the same.  Even I thought it is an incription problem.
[20:33] <tmas> ikonia: on irc.freenode.net?
[20:33] <ikonia> jasunto: what "mac stuff"
[20:33] <ikonia> tmas: yes
[20:33] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: have you played with the actual settings on how it hashes,hex,passphrases you pwd... because on all accounts it looks like your wifi is working it just cant authenticate
[20:33] <ikonia> jasunto: mac mini's are just intel PC's
[20:34] <noren> lugan reinstall the pulseaudio
[20:34] <Night_Rider> keyring??? Documentation!!!
[20:34] <nyde> typing on this ipad aint too bad at all
[20:34] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: yes yes perfect.  infact my laptop keeps asking authentication pass key
[20:34] <noren> !keyring
[20:34] <guntbert> Night_Rider: what is your problem?
[20:34] <mcl0vin> how can i remove lirc pkg from my system please
[20:35] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: it takes the key and requests an ip address, again after 2 minits it says authentication required
[20:35] <noren> mcl0vin: sudo apt-get remove lirc
[20:35] <ikonia> mcl0vin: open the package manager, search for llirc and click remove
[20:35] <nyde> mcl0vin: sudo apt-get remove lirc
[20:35] <Night_Rider> keyring??? info..
[20:35] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: just because it keeps asking for your PW doesnt mean it is the correct authentication method... infact that right there should tell you your options are wrong
[20:36] <InvaderZim> noren: well i appended that to the end of the line after quiet splash... nothing different, same problem
[20:36] <guntbert> Night_Rider: please say a complete question or describe your problem on a whole sentence.
[20:36] <mcl0vin> noren: how can i use --purge
[20:36] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: what it should be then?  i am by the way trying an ad hoc connection with one of my laptops as host and sharing the connection through ad hoc wifi
[20:36] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i am using cli
[20:36] <ikonia> mcl0vin: then don't, use the package manager
[20:36] <noren> mcl0vin: sudo apt-get remove --purge lirc
[20:36] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: should i use a particular incription type?
[20:36] <leebo> 阿
[20:36] <leebo> 阿阿阿
[20:37] <mcl0vin> noren: thank you , and that will remove everything related to lirc
[20:37] <guntbert> leebo: stop please
[20:37] <Toaday> At what point is rc.local executed?
[20:37] <leebo> ....
[20:37] <CaptainTrek> Toaday: last step in boot before letting you login IIRC
[20:37] <noren> InvaderZim: if u use nvidia get the nvidia pakages and try
[20:37] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: i dont know what your network uses... i would try a 128bit key
[20:37] <InvaderZim> noren: no nvidia
[20:37] <giridhar> I am not able to fine this file, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:37] <tech1> This:阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿LOLOLOL
[20:38] <noren> mcl0vin: do sudo apt-get autremove << after that
[20:38] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: i tryed 128 wep and 40/128 wep both are not working
[20:38] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: there is 4 options there.... for the encryption... you can try each one..
[20:38] <giridhar> i am not able to find this file /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu 10.04
[20:38] <ikonia> giridhar: grub2 works different
[20:38] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: there is also pass phrase and dynamic wep
[20:38] <ikonia> !grub2 > giridhar
[20:38] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: 4 except none right?
[20:38] <Toaday> CaptainTrek, Thanks. Anything executed earlier in the boot process? Say, before fstab is processes?
[20:38] <greezmunkey> giridhar: it's not there /etc/default/grub (grub being the config file)
[20:38] <Toaday> processed*
[20:38] <noren> giridhar: its not there now its more complicated as it uses grub2 by default
[20:38] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: if your wireless is even using wep..
[20:39] <mcl0vin> noren: autremove or autoremove
[20:39] <CaptainTrek> Toaday: not sure
[20:39] <renodude18> hey all
[20:39] <noren> mcl0vin: do sudo apt-get auotremove << after that
[20:39] <giannis> hello ppl
[20:39] <tmas> ikonia: I can't talk there :(
[20:39] <noren> mcl0vin: do sudo apt-get autoremove << after that<< sorry typo
[20:39] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada:  i can see wpa/wpa2, wep 40/128 key and wep 128 pass phrase.  the 4th option is none.
[20:40] <ikonia> !register | tmas
[20:40] <giridhar> i need to install vista dual boot with ubuntu 10.04 installed first, i need a link where i can find easily
[20:40] <dominicdinada> i would even try infastructor mode :/
[20:40] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: can you confirm that
[20:40] <renodude18> can some one please help me with my wireless card?
[20:40] <guntbert> !details | renodude18
[20:40] <kk_hacker> huh? infra structure mode?  will it work for ad hoc?
[20:41] <giannis> Can anyone tell how can I drag windows from one workspace to another? I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and i can't do it even with compiz enabled
[20:41] <wygrzmot> siem
[20:41] <tmas> !register | tmas
[20:41] <wygrzmot> siema
[20:41] <kk_hacker> dominicdinada: is it not the wrong one for ad hoc?
[20:41] <wygrzmot> hi
[20:41] <guntbert> !pl | wygrzmot
[20:41] <mcl0vin> noren: but i still get http://pastebin.com/WNWfVqg9 when i 'locate lircd'
[20:41] <renodude18> right now i'm on a virtual box ubuntu 10.04 but have it installed via wubi but i can't get my dell wireless 1370 to work, i know its a broadcom card and that they are some what trouble some
[20:41] <xangua> giannis: install compis setting manager and configure the plugins
[20:41] <wygrzmot> do you spek polish?
[20:41] <Night_Rider> giridhar : First install vista ; install Ubuntu (wubi) ; ubuntu will dual -boot with vista.
[20:42] <MenZa> Where are sftp filesystems mounted in nautilus kept?
[20:42] <Loshki> !ps | wyggler2
[20:42] <dominicdinada> kk_hacker: that is a whole new topic... you are trying to connect to your router... that is what i was suggesting... as for me i have 7 options
[20:42] <wygrzmot> speak*
[20:42] <liminal> hello
[20:42] <jpds> MenZa: .gvfs?
[20:42] <wygrzmot> hello
[20:42] <MenZa> jpds: ~/.gvfs?
[20:42] <Loshki> !pl | wygrzmot
[20:42] <liminal> my ubuntu install hangs at 33% when setting up the partition
[20:42] <MenZa> jpds: thanks; I was looking in ~/.gnome2 and ~/.local
[20:42] <liminal> im not sure why
[20:42] <wygrzmot> watch  your from?
[20:42] <giridhar> Night_Rider : i am already using ubuntu from so many days, so now i need vista just to play some games as dual boot
[20:43] <oCean_> wygrzmot: this is technical ubuntu support, not chat
[20:43] <noren> mcl0vin: these are source files and documentation of lirc
[20:43] <wygrzmot> gada tu gtos po polsku
[20:43] <renodude18> hello?
[20:43] <liminal> support me please
[20:43] <liminal> for the love of god
[20:43] <wygrzmot> nara
[20:43] <wygrzmot> bay
[20:43] <alastair_> will Ubuntu Studio improve my computer's performance for audio editing? It couldn't really handle it with the standard version
[20:43] <liminal> ubuntu is making me suicidal
[20:43] <ikonia> liminal: calm down and ask a question
[20:43] <noren> mcl0vin: u must have selected to get src files in repository also
[20:43] <jasunto> so you installed ubuntu on mac and ran with it
[20:43] <jasunto> no extra packages to do stuff
[20:44] <Night_Rider> giridhar : I haven't tried that way round..(vise-versa)
[20:44] <renodude18> right now i'm on a virtual box ubuntu 10.04 but have it installed via wubi but i can't get my dell wireless 1370 to work, i know its a broadcom card and that they are some what trouble some
[20:44] <mrapple> hi - im a long time ubuntu user and am considering switching to freebsd
[20:44] <mrapple> anything i should know before i do so?
[20:44] <xangua> mrapple: wish you luck
[20:44] <greezmunkey> mrapple: hope you like pain
[20:44] <xangua> ......
[20:44] <nyde> if u have mac hardware why would you run ubuntu on it
[20:45] <liminal> ikonia i have
[20:45] <xangua> nyde: why wouldn't you¿
[20:45] <mrapple> this is for my server
[20:45] <liminal> im installing unbuntu
[20:45] <mcgvac> nyde: cause osx is a closed platform
[20:45] <liminal> the partition creator hangs at 33%
[20:45] <mrapple> greezmunkey: why, are things better on the ubuntu side? :P
[20:45] <Loshki> liminal: which partition creator?
[20:45] <^Pete> access to os and free softwares
[20:45] <renodude18> anyone?
[20:46] <greezmunkey> mrapple: if you are a long time user, why would you reinvent the wheel?
[20:46] <liminal> the partition creation process in a standard install
[20:46] <ikonia> liminal: what partion is hanging, how big a disk, how big a partition ?
[20:46] <mrapple> greezmunkey: because i dont have a choice. im moving to new host and they dont offer ubuntu
[20:46] <oCean_> mrapple: greezmunkey offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:46] <noren> giridhar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid << see this
[20:46] <Loshki> mrapple: if you have lots of disks with ext3 filesystems on them, you won't be able to access them from bsd...
[20:46] <liminal> the disk is 160gb scsi, its crashing when i make the /home partition
[20:46] <mcl0vin> noren: is there an argument that i can use with locate to see the time and date the were created
[20:46] <greezmunkey> oCean_: ok man
[20:46] <nyde> i can understand if you are coding for the kernel itself, but most ubuntu-tards dont even know any unix terminal commands
[20:47] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: how did the reload go ?
[20:47] <renodude18> how can do you get a dell wireless 1370 card to work with ubuntu? please help anyone???
[20:47] <mcgvac> nyde: you cant even change themes in osx 10 your stuck with what steve wants you to see so.........
[20:47] <noren> mcl0vin: go to that particular folder and then do :: ls -l
[20:47] <ikonia> liminal: arey ou making the partition manually or as part of the installer ?
[20:47] <liminal> part of the installer
[20:48] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: good! i might have been the cause of my own trouble, or it was some package in ubuntu that they updated since the original release. but working good now. hang.. i have more....
[20:48] <Flare183> !wireless | renodude18
[20:48] <ikonia> liminal: if you don't put /home on a seperate partition does it crash ?
[20:48] <arcnewuss> how can i know the remaining space on a hdd
[20:48] <ikonia> liminal: are there any other partitions on that disk ?
[20:48] <ikonia> arcnewuss: df -h
[20:48] <noren> liminal: check the disk integrity
[20:48] <greezmunkey> arcnewuss: df
[20:48] <liminal> theres a partition for /
[20:48] <ikonia> arcnewuss: shows you your file system partitions
[20:48] <liminal> the disk integrity is sound
[20:48] <greezmunkey> ikonia: ;)
[20:48] <arcnewuss> thnks
[20:49] <liminal> and a partition for /home
[20:49] <liminal> and two swap partitions
[20:49] <nyde> mcgvac: yeah i guess, but i actually like how mac looks better than any linux theme stuff i can find
[20:49] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: you interrupted your update or removal ?? and that was the cause ?
[20:49] <liminal> the / parition is 30gig or so
[20:49] <ikonia> liminal: see if not putting home on a seperate partition works or not, that way we can narrow down the issue location
[20:49] <liminal> the /home parition is 120 gig
[20:49] <liminal> the swap partitions are 4 gig each
[20:50] <rhonny> how to disable displaying icons of mounted drives on ubuntu gnome's desktop
[20:50] <tmas> ikonia: There are 80 users online at ##apple but nobody is talking
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: before i got to where i couldn't even log into gdm, i had been having a problem i didn't know what to make of. thought it was possibly just some bug. this is just one example of the authentication problem i was have, but if i went to System --> Administration --> User and Groups   ...it would ask me to authenticate and i would put in my password and click the 'authenticate' button
[20:50] <ikonia> tmas: that is not #ubuntu's issue
[20:50] <mcgvac> nyde: http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac if you like mac look there you go it clones it...... then just install cairo dock and you set
[20:51] <noren> liminal: 4 gb is enough for root (/) partition and u will only use one swap space...
[20:51] <tmas> ikonia: sorry, just thought there were people here who could help. After all, I am installing Ubuntu. The problem might even be with Ubuntu, bu I doubt it.
[20:51] <ryoohki> i have a corrupted ext4 root fs.  not sure what happened - the system is a new 10.04 install and hadn't many hours on it.
[20:52] <mcl0vin> how do i install linux source files please
[20:52] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: but that dialog window to authenticate would not disappear, it remained until i like... closed that dialog window in the upper right or something. but i would be authenticated. well, now i don't have that problem at all. i put in my password and click authenticate, and it's all good now
[20:52] <ikonia> tmas: booting from hardware is nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:52] <nyde> mcgvac: been there and back wiht theming gnome to look like mac for 10 years now,,, it just never works as well,
[20:52] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ou don't - what do you want to build/install ?
[20:52] <sotiris> hey does anybody know how to solve the problem of Broadcom in 10.04 netbook?
[20:52] <nyde> mcgvac: ive been using linux for 12 years :)
[20:53] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: i was having that problem for a while, and then eventually, couldn't even log into gdm, but everything is beautiful now :-)
[20:53] <mcgvac> nyde: yeah it does you can even have the program menus on the top menu bar like mac with global menus
[20:53] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i am trying to get a remote control to work for me, using lirc ...but there is a bug #454371
[20:53] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120383
[20:53] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok - so why do you want to build it from source ?
[20:53] <tmas> ikonia: the point is that I'm trying to boot ubuntu from the hardware and I'm not 100% sure it's an issue with booting from that hardware. There is a possibility that I'm missing drivers or something it needs. Shall I describe my symptoms?
[20:53] <kevinr> sotiris i connected to wired ethernet and updated drivers and it DL opensource driver for broadcom
[20:53] <nyde> mcgvac: ok, go ahead and say that, but it never works 100%
[20:53] <noren> mcl0vin: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html << see this
[20:53] <mcgvac> nyde: and sisnce its unix you can taylor pefect for you without restrictions i was to limited on a mac
[20:53] <ikonia> tmas: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:54] <sotiris> which driver are you using?
[20:54] <tmas> ikonia: Ok, whatever. Bye.
[20:54] <mcgvac> nyde: not unix but linux sorry
[20:54] <mcl0vin> ikonia: because the pkg got a bug
[20:54] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: well my problem with the compiz,gnome disappeared for now but i am unsure what it was that i was able to fix it :) i just went through and checked all the config files and they were correct
[20:54] <nyde> mcgvac: posix lol :)
[20:54] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok - so work with that bug report/the person who's fix it to get the fix releae
[20:54] <ikonia> released
[20:54] <liminal> ikonia i just tried without a seperate partition
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: hmmm, interesting
[20:54] <liminal> it still dies at 33%
[20:54] <ikonia> liminal: ok, so that issue is with partitioning "that" disk, rather than the actual /home partition, let me think
[20:54] <renodude18> ubottu: the doc info says that it requires a "hard line" or wired connection, i don't have access to that, any other way to obtain the driver or something on another OS, such as this Virtual install of ubuntu on xp?
[20:55] <liminal> no the disk is fine
[20:55] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i don't know how, i am new at this and this is my 3rd week on a raw trying to get it to work :(
[20:55] <jcdyer> My USB hard drive won't automount.
[20:55] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: yeah at least i dont have to configure everything each time i login... BUT still the same with ufw.... and other things :) Lucid just doesnt like keeping settings and saving them :)
[20:55] <liminal> i bought it especialy because i was having problems with the installation of ubuntu
[20:55] <renodude18> the doc info says that it requires a "hard line" or wired connection, i don't have access to that, any other way to obtain the driver or something on another OS, such as this Virtual install of ubuntu on xp?
[20:55] <liminal> because someone in a chat room told it was the disk
[20:55] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok - so follow the bug on launchpad, follow the comments, and post your own feedback, work with the guy fixing it
[20:56] <noren> liminal: check the installer cd for doublechecking
[20:56] <liminal> its not the disk
[20:56] <jcdyer> It's  showing up under lsusb, but not fdisk -l
[20:56] <liminal> its not the installer cd
[20:56] <liminal> ive tried dozens
[20:56] <liminal> literally dozens
[20:56] <liminal> all different types
[20:56] <dominicdinada> renodude18: your on the internet now you can download it and copy it via thumb drive lol
[20:56] <liminal> its an error in the core unbuntu code
[20:56] <renodude18> the doc info says that it requires a "hard line" or wired connection, i don't have access to that, any other way to obtain the driver or something on another OS, such as this Virtual install of ubuntu on xp?
[20:56] <liminal> im willing to help find it.
[20:56] <noren> liminal: then try formatting with a different os
[20:56] <jcdyer> dmesg shows [  134.740070] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[20:56] <liminal> but i need some help
[20:56] <jcdyer> [  134.873851] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[20:56] <oCean_> liminal: ease up on the enter key please
[20:56] <StuBb0rn> êë
[20:57] <ironfoot495> Hello can someone give me some info on how to configure a 6511-su hp keyboard on a ubuntu 9.10?
[20:57] <jcdyer> This drive worked last week.  Any ideas why it might not be showing up now?
[20:57] <ikonia> liminal: I'm not sure it is to be honest, as it works for %99 of other people, is possible there is a problem with either your controller, or ubuntu's compatability with that disk controller
[20:57] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Are you running windows XP.
[20:57] <jcdyer> (Formatted w/ Fat32)
[20:57] <liminal> controller|
[20:57] <liminal> ?
[20:57] <liminal> the bios
[20:57] <ironfoot495> I have tried google but not finding a good source.
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: i may have been the cause of my own problem. for instance, on that prior install.. i installed sun-java6 and then i saw in /etc/alternatives there were still a lot of things left pointing to openjdk rather than sun-java6. well i used the update-alternatives --config command to put them all on sun-java6. that could have been my problem. or it could have been some ppa repo i had added and installed from, don't know
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> . could have been an actual bug in lucid that's been fixed. i'm just glad it's all good now :-)
[20:57] <renodude18> night_rider, yes but have ubuntu installed also on vm virtual box
[20:57] <renodude18> and wubi
[20:58] <AnxiousNut> is there a way to view publisher documents in ubuntu?
[20:58] <jude> hey guys, have a curiosity. so i had an ubuntu upgrade running. machine lost power, so the installation got borked. instead of trying to salvage the install, i imaged my drive and formatted the partition, now i have a fresh 10.04 install. what are the implications of just replacing the new home dir with my backup of my home dir from 9.10?
[20:58] <remaxim> hi
[20:58] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: ahhhh well nonetheless things are fixed for the time being... :) on both of our sides...
[20:58] <remaxim> for some (stupid) reason I lost my audio-volume-applet in the gnome panel ... does anyone know how to get it back?
[20:58] <noren> jude: home dir u can safly get it back
[20:59] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : so you have internet through eth0.
[20:59] <xangua> remaxim: add indicator applet
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: just to let you know, i set up my firewall using gufw. my firewall is activated every time i boot without me needing to do anything
[20:59] <toddw> anyone here with a Toshiba T135?
[20:59] <noren> jude: as the upgrade will only make changes in the / only not in /home
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: yes. glad to hear you are pretty much all good too! :-)
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> very glad :-)
[20:59] <xangua> !anyone | toddw
[20:59] <oCean_> !info scribus | AnxiousNut: maybe this:
[21:00] <renodude18> Night_rider:i think so, on the wubi install it shows a connection thing next to the volume but no way to connect to my network
[21:00] <toddw> ;p
[21:00] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: i was using UFW enable and it says it will start all the time and didnt so i checked ufw.conf and it was set to NO so i changed it there and still doesnt
[21:00] <jude> noren: so a direct copy of my old homedir to replace my new home dir, everything should just work?
[21:00] <toddw> i was going to ask about the headphone jack but was curious if it was me or Ubuntu and the laptop in general\
[21:00] <mcl0vin> this might be a stupid question , can i update my kernel from 2.6.31-14-generic to the 2.6.32.21-generic and still be in 9.10? if yes how please?
[21:00] <liminal> ikonia what do you mean by the 'controller'?
[21:00] <toddw> but a good point
[21:00] <remaxim> xangua, I looked trough the applet box several times and couldn't find it
[21:00] <ikonia> liminal: disk controller
[21:01] <oCean_> liminal: the hardware controlling the hard drive
[21:01] <remaxim> although it is german there is nothing about volume control :(
[21:01] <noren> jude: copy all the file and folder including the hidden files and folder in the /home folder
[21:01] <dominicdinada> toddw: What about the headphone jack ? that it plays on both the laptop speakers and headphones ?
[21:01] <toddw> i have sound but not from the headphone jack with my T135 and 10.04\
[21:01] <toddw> internal speakers are fine
[21:02] <noren> toddw: run alsamixer and check the headphone sound level
[21:02] <dominicdinada> toddw have you checked your settings you can click the speaker and sound prefs
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: hmmm, don't know. no one has been able to help you tack that down?
[21:02] <jude> noren: i was hoping that would be the case. thank you :)
[21:02] <toddw> yeah and dont see the headphone there. let me try lsamixer
[21:02] <noren> jude: ur welcome
[21:02] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : The best way to find out | wi -fi card compatibility with Ubuntu ; Boot it from the Ubuntu CD & run it without installing it. if you see wi-fi (card works) then get along with it.
[21:03] <tmas> Please, Mac users join ##apple and help me.
[21:03] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: not really although i have a number of layers of security between me and the internet so it is not a top priority :0
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: i have to leave for about a three or four hour trip to the mountains here in a bit, so i can't try to help right now or i would
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: roger that.. good to hear :)
[21:03] <toddw> i dont see it in alsamixer. just mixer, and pcm
[21:04] <ryoohki> http://pastebin.com/vdiEMLLL
[21:04] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: again on this laptop i have nothing worth anybodies time i have all the other PC
[21:04] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: pc's secured that need to be so if someone wants to have a go at it :) good thing this is not a primary pc :)
[21:04] <am3arico> HI
[21:04] <toddw> it appears to be using the Intel HD card
[21:05] <fertech> im try to use BitTorrent
[21:05] <fertech>  does anyone knows
[21:05] <am3arico> WHICH IS THE BEST IRC CLIENT FOR UBUNTU NETBOOK??
[21:05] <ikonia> am3arico: one that doesn't allow you to use all caps
[21:05] <maco> !best | am3arico
[21:05] <maco> !caps | am3arico
[21:05] <Night_Rider> fertech : Using Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:05] <fertech> i dnt know
[21:06] <am3arico> sorry
[21:06] <am3arico> 4got caps on
[21:06] <fertech>   i think so
[21:06] <Night_Rider> fertech : Then what else do you know?
[21:06] <seregon> server irc.rizon.net
[21:06] <am3arico> yes the new 1
[21:06] <fertech> night im new to linux
[21:07] <fertech> i know i have BitTorrent
[21:07] <owenll> fertech: System -> About Ubuntu
[21:07] <Night_Rider> fertech : You installed Ubuntu ? & you don't know the version??
[21:07] <dominicdinada> !ot | am3arico
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: last night, i jumped through a lot of hoops and worked for along time to get something compiled. it was pretty tough, but i got it, and in the end, i would say it was worth it. it's called....  aweather. i got it going with full RSL radar support. awesome weather visualization app. however, i have my doubts anyone in here could get it compiled on lucid. hehe. i made .debs of it with 'checkinstall'
[21:07] <remaxim> is there maybe a command to get the gnomepanel-volume-applet back?
[21:07] <fertech> but 9.04
[21:07] <Janhouse> how can I stop services like apache or mysql starting automatically?
[21:07] <fertech> i have 9.04
[21:07] <xangua> remaxim: just add the indicator applet
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: i was pretty proud of myself as you might able to tell :D
[21:08] <Night_Rider> fertech : Transmission Bit Torrent Client ?
[21:08] <dominicdinada> onetinsoldier: Sweet :) this pc is just used for learning, php etc.... :)
[21:08] <NinoScript> Hi! How do I disable the primary clipboard? I sometimes copy a text, then select a text that I want to replace and when I ctrl+v it pastes the selected text… I hate that
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> dominicdinada: roger. that's cool
[21:08] <oCean_> onetinsoldier: is there a technical question in your story?
[21:08] <jcdyer> Hey all!  My usb hard drive (Seagate Free Agent Go) just recently (two or three days) stopped automounting.  dmesg sees the drive.  So does lsusb, but it doesn't show up in sudo fdisk -l Any idea how to get it working again?
[21:08] <fertech> yes i open the Transmission Bit Torrent Client
[21:08] <remaxim> xangua, you mean by right clicking on the panel and adding applets? there is no indicator applet there ...
[21:08] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: got it compiled, it was easy ;)
[21:09] <fertech> what do i do next
[21:09] <xangua> remaxim: what version of ubuntu are you using¿¿
[21:09] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: ^^ :)
[21:09] <remaxim> xangua, 10.04
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: i don't believe you, lol
[21:09] <noren> fertech: u need to have a torrent file to run the torrent
[21:09] <Adamantus10> Hello rock gods
[21:09] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: Id send you a screen shot but I don't have it compiled - hehe
[21:09] <jasunto> anyone know a good android irc client so i can jump in here if i break my internet?
[21:09] <xangua> remaxim: then there should be indicator and indicator session applet; if not try to restore the defaul panel conf
[21:09] <xangua> !Panels
[21:09] <remaxim> xangua, thanks :)
[21:10] <fertech> and how do i do that
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: ok, you lost me now
[21:10] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: cheater... anyhow dam UFW
[21:10] <noren> fertech: download the torrent file and then open it up with transmission
[21:10] <remaxim> I finally found it .. I searched through it about 20 times ... also for the indicator applet ...
[21:10] <remaxim> xangua, you were right, thanks :)
[21:10] <Adamantus10> Sounds stupid: Is it risky to switch interfaces just to try them out? For example between Gnome and KDE
[21:10]  * greezmunkey waits to be scolded...
[21:10] <fertech> okay i will do that
[21:10] <jasunto> anyone here on 10.04 with wifi and vnc before login?
[21:11] <noren> fertech: u can go different torrent index site to get the torrent
[21:11] <fertech> okay
[21:11] <dominicdinada> jasunto: i use wifi and have servers etc i loginto via VNC,RDP SSH, sftp etc.... :P
[21:11] <HannibalWagnr> Shit! anyone can help me???
[21:11] <fertech> thank u
[21:11] <ikonia> HannibalWagnr: please control your language
[21:11] <dominicdinada> !ask | HannibalWagnr
[21:11] <Barridus> the command "service crond status" spits out "unrecognized service".  same with service cron start.  the command "/etc/init.d/crond start" spits back "no such file or directory".  how can i have the Cron package installed but not have hte service?  none of my jobs will run.  anyone know what's going on here?
[21:11] <noren> fertech: ur welcome
[21:11] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: actually, I was working through getting the dependancies squared away when I was tapped to help madjoe. It's on the rear burner though.
[21:11]  * onetinsoldier slaps greezmunkey with a large trout
[21:11] <maco> !language | HannibalWagnr
[21:11] <eepr0m> !ask ucp
[21:12] <fertech> which site is  a good one
[21:12] <greezmunkey> yummy, trout.
[21:12] <noren> fertech: isohunt
[21:12] <maco> Barridus: ls /etc/init.d/ and see whats there? i thin its actually anacron
[21:12] <samo-nz> why is critical temp shutdown for sony vaio laptops not fixed in an LTS release?
[21:12] <jasunto> my problem is if i restart my computer remotely, i want wifi to come back up and vnc before someone has to login so i can login
[21:12] <maco> *think
[21:12] <fertech> okay
[21:12] <dominicdinada> jasunto: is it set auto wlan ?
[21:12] <fertech> il check it out right now. laterz
[21:12] <ikonia> samo-nz: check the bug report
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: roger that. good to help folks! and i know you're good at it :-)
[21:13] <jasunto> yea
[21:13] <rocket16> I like Pidgin. I have installed it, so if I remove Empathy, will there be any problem (since it is a default package)?
[21:13] <jasunto> and to all users
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> Barridus, it's just cron "sudo service cron status"
[21:13] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: that's relative, but thake :)
[21:13] <Barridus> maco, "cron" is there and not an "atacron"
[21:13] <Barridus> ZykoticK9, unrecognized service
[21:13]  * rocket16 salutes onetinsoldier
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: i am going to gone some hours. not certan when i'll get back. but if you are around at that time i will help you with it if you want. you'll need it! hehe
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> Barridus, do you have cron installed?  "apt-cache policy cron"
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> S! rocket16
[21:14] <HannibalWagnr> Ok. This is my problem (please answer in private). How do I delete all the logs within the Empathy chat??? I just noticed it logs all my conversations (I'm a secret agent who sells  information to the Chinese, and I don't want any traces... :D )
[21:14] <NinoScript> How do I disable the primary clipboard?
[21:14] <jasunto> i can try again, one other issue was back in the day i used to have to use x11vnc and have init start it before login and to use same x session
[21:15] <Barridus> ZykoticK9, cron: Installed: 3.0pl1-106ubuntu5
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> S! rocket16 - Salutations :-)
[21:15] <greezmunkey> rocket16: they are differant programs, if they share lib files those should be retained. Worst case is you have to uninstall both then reinstall pidgin
[21:15] <rocket16> onetinsoldier: :) Thanks, :) my nomination to you, for the commander of Indian Army! :)
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> Barridus, i have no idea then - it's working here?  good luck man.
[21:15] <guntbert> NinoScript: what primary clipboard?
[21:15] <Adamantus10> Who are all these idiots making open source apps but not for Linux?
[21:15] <arand> rocket16: Not really, it will want to remove "ubuntu-desktop" which is a metapackage controlling the group of default applications, but there should be no other effects.
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> have to go all.. good luck everyone. cheers
[21:15] <LjL> Adamantus10: there is no need to call anyone an idiot really
[21:16] <rocket16> greezmunkey: arand: Thanks, :)
[21:16] <Night_Rider> HannibalWagnr : Well sorry! information is for all to see.
[21:16] <NinoScript> guntbert, that thing that copies text when you select it, that X uses with the middle mouse button
[21:16] <jasunto> anyone know something like tonido plug with two interfaces so i can use as router with ubuntu
[21:16] <justin22885> hey... for some reason compiz wont let me move windows.. any ideas?
[21:16] <nwillems> good evening. I just "burned" an iso image to USB stick, can I somehow take the check-sum of the usb stick?
[21:16] <HannibalWagnr> ok, but please answer!
[21:16] <Barridus> ZykoticK9, do you think maybe purging and reinstalling cron would help?
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> Barridus, no idea...
[21:16] <Adamantus10> Surely if you believe so strongly in open source you would make an Linux version?
[21:17] <rocket16> FSpot is too slow, because of Mono. Will the use of Shotwell make things faster?
[21:17] <guntbert> NinoScript: ah - I have no idea how to disable it - why?
[21:17] <friedturtl3> i beleive in one GOD
[21:17] <HannibalWagnr> How is anyone supposed to get any problem solved here with all this mess???
[21:18] <oCean_> friedturtl3: that's great, but offtopic.
[21:18] <oCean_> HannibalWagnr: just relax
[21:18] <greezmunkey> HannibalWagnr: Believe it or no, it actually works.
[21:18] <justin22885> nevermind, i fixed it
[21:18] <[GL]Xyom> OMFG!!!!!
[21:18]  * rocket16 thinks, Mark Shuttleworth, Linus and Richard are incarnations of Gods, to show us the way to a new era of Computing.
[21:18] <Night_Rider> HannibalWagnr : Address the Problem to IRC | remove the private & secret stiff; getting bored with the 007 stuff.
[21:18] <sebsebseb> !language | [GL]Xyom
[21:18] <rocket16> !language | [GL]
[21:18] <sebsebseb> !ot
[21:18] <HannibalWagnr> Ok. I'll try again. Does anybody know how to fu***** delete de Empathy logs???
[21:19] <SwedeMike> HannibalWagnr: if you don't like this format, I'm sure there are webboards you can go to instead.
[21:19] <[GL]Xyom> :S
[21:19] <greezmunkey> ok...next!
[21:19] <oCean_> [GL]Xyom: you also mind your language please
[21:19] <Barridus> hmm purging and reinstalling cron didn't help
[21:20] <[GL]OkamiAiKawa> OMFG
[21:20] <rhonny> quit
[21:20] <rhonny> :quit
[21:21] <LjL> [GL]OkamiAiKawa: is that going to stop?
[21:21] <linxeh> is there any fax server software for fax/modems in the repos? eg that can work as a fax printer for client desktops, or do fax->email etc?
[21:21] <ikonia> Leemp: hylafax
[21:22] <AdotB> About deleting empathy logs...
[21:22] <AdotB> i think they're stored in  ~/.local/share/Empathy/logs
[21:22] <linxeh> ikonia: ok cool thanks, checking it out
[21:22] <Leemp> ikonia: .. eh?
[21:22] <AdotB> I really wish empathy had more options, including deleting chat logs
[21:22] <linxeh> Leemp: he typo'd my nick
[21:23] <Barridus> AdotB, you can always go back to pidgin
[21:23] <Leemp> linxeh: Ah, thanks
[21:23] <[GL]Xyom> OMFG!!
[21:24] <[GL]Xyom> OMFG!!
[21:24] <[GL]Xyom> OMFG!!
[21:24] <[GL]Xyom> OMFG!!
[21:24] <FloodBot1> [GL]Xyom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <Barridus> stop dude
[21:24] <AdotB> True
[21:24] <a3ist> bar, just let the ops handle it; the bots will keep anyone from flooding and the ops will get the rest
[21:24] <user_> hello
[21:24] <user_> alguien habla español?
[21:25] <LjL> !es | user_
[21:25] <arand> AdotB: Empathy is what it is, and I think the one whoe requested the onfo got a bit agitated and had him/herself kicked...
[21:26] <bondiblueos9> is there a way to have tar output how much it has written?
[21:26] <bondiblueos9> or is there a way to know how much as been written to a tape?
[21:26] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: use "v" flag for verbose output
[21:26] <bondiblueos9> ikonia: doesn't v just tell you all the files?
[21:27] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: yes
[21:27] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: therefore you can see how many it's done and what it's doing currently
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> ikonia: oh, well I need the size of the archive after its been compressed and written
[21:27] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: just look at the size of it on the tape
[21:28] <bondiblueos9> ikonia: how do I do that?
[21:28] <pLk> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hdstarcraft
[21:28] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: simple way would be to do a tar tvf onto your local disk and watch the output
[21:28] <ikonia> pLk: why ar eyou posting that ?
[21:28] <squelch> I have a question about downloading a file from a Journal web site
[21:29] <squelch> it takes a while to download.  It stops at like 25%-75% done and I have to keep redownloading
[21:29] <squelch> I have to login via proxy using SSL to download itI have to login via proxy using SSL to download it
[21:29] <ikonia> squelch: doubt that's an ubuntu issue
[21:29] <squelch> well, I came here because someone from #freenode told me to about my question
[21:29] <squelch> So where do I ask it?
[21:29] <squelch> #firefox?  #browser?
[21:29] <pLk> this is a thriller
[21:29] <videorechner_> hi I tried the virtual machine manager but I cant find a way to change the resolution, what can I do?
[21:29] <ikonia> pLk: why are you posting that in an ubuntu support channel
[21:29] <pLk> fucking exciting
[21:29] <squelch> Someone tell ikonia to shut up
[21:30] <maco> pLk: language
[21:30] <guntbert> videorechner_: what virtualisation product?
[21:30] <pLk> viral
[21:30] <videorechner_> guntbert qemu
[21:30] <maco> squelch: um, no, that really wasn't very respectful
[21:30] <squelch> Better yet:
[21:30] <squelch> /ignore ikonia
[21:30] <maco> squelch: placing ops on ignore tends to be a bad idea
[21:30] <Night_Rider> videorechner_: Did you install Guest Additions?
[21:31] <squelch> I have a question about downloading a file from a Journal web site
[21:31] <squelch> it takes a while to download.  It stops at like 25%-75% done and I have to keep redownloading
[21:31] <squelch> I have to login via proxy using SSL to download itI have to login via proxy using SSL to download it
[21:31] <guntbert> videorechner_: try it in #qemu please
[21:31] <videorechner_> Night_Rider not on purpose, how can I check?
[21:31] <alper> Hello, new to 10ç04. When I add a user , the new user can't use internet. The new user has all prileges. What should I do?
[21:31] <squelch> What program for Linux would allow me to completely downlaod the file?  Will Firefox do this?
[21:31] <oCean_> squelch: you don't have any respect for the ops in this channel, you expect us to be helpful?
[21:31] <shani248> hi guys
[21:31] <shani248> anyone has any pointers to configuring monitor resolution for VGA connected lcds ? dvi works fine but vga doesnt' detect the monitor properly and the resolution is screwed up ?
[21:32] <maco> squelch: firefox lacks a built-in download manager, however the DownThemAll extention could help
[21:32] <shani248> i've manually configured the xorg.conf and added vertrefresh and horizsync of my monitor but still no help
[21:32] <maco> shani248: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:33] <shani248> @maco thanks ... checking it out
[21:33] <xangua> squelch: you can try your favorite download manager and integrate it in firefox with flashgot addon
[21:33] <squelch> What about if I'm using Opera
[21:33] <bondiblueos9> ikonia, tar tjvf just lists all the files and their information, not the overall size as written; at least I don't think it does; I'm trying it right now (there are a lot of files)
[21:33] <squelch> thanks
[21:33] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: should list the size at the end, I'm working from memory so could be wrong
[21:33] <renodude181> night_rider: just read the second poster's instructions, but he lists that he uses a wired connection. i don't have easy access to that, is it required or is there a way around it?
[21:34]  * friedturtl3 maxes out at ~16 push-ups
[21:36] <greezmunkey> maco: what does that "DownTemAll" do, like a wget??
[21:36] <Adamantus10> greezmunkey, It's anoying, use flashget
[21:36] <BitEncrypt_> package dependencies cannot be resolved......trying to install Gnome
[21:37] <Adamantus10> It downloads all content on a page, can't see the point
[21:37] <maco> greezmunkey: its an extension for firefox that lets you continue downloads like "wget -c" but also it can remember the downloads and continue them even after ff crashes and since its in ff, it can work on things that require that you be logged in (where wget fails)
[21:37] <greezmunkey> Adamantus10: yeah, just looked it up, I can see it being a pain.
[21:37] <nokia3510> Troubleshooting a NFS issue, I accidentally did sudo chown -vR user:user on / thinking I'm on ~/user so until I stopped it several/many system files got assigned to user:user. Is there a way to restore those files to their default uid/gid ownership ?
[21:37] <maco> Adamantus10: huh? no it doesnt. you click on a download link for a file and tell it to use downthemall to get it
[21:37] <renodude181> Night_Rider: ?
[21:38] <maco> Adamantus10: unless they made some stupid change that made it get whole pages instead of just the file you ask it for
[21:38] <oCean_> BitEncrypt_: trying to install Gnome on ... ?
[21:38] <greezmunkey> maco: ok, reading into it more now...
[21:38] <BitEncrypt_> kubuntu
[21:38] <sint> hey, anyone using "mc" here? i wonder how to enable the usual mc look and feel in ubuntu? like white bold names for folders?
[21:38] <BitEncrypt_> ubunto 10.04 LTS
[21:39] <sint> i run 10.04
[21:39] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : You are using Ubuntu on a virtual Machine ; eht0 self connects | so can be done with a simple click ; way around i simply don't understand that term..
[21:39] <bondiblueos9> ikonia, it did not
[21:39] <renodude181> Night_rider: I'm trying to get ubuntu to connect to the internet via my wireless network on a wubi install
[21:39] <ikonia> bondiblueos9: dissapointing
[21:40] <greezmunkey> sint: I have that running here, but honestly don't see as much of a need for it as I first thought, now that nautilus has split screens and such
[21:40] <maco> greezmunkey, Adamantus10: ah i see, getting a whole page is an option, but having used it i can tell you that you can choose individual files to download instead
[21:40] <pcgeek32147> how do i get 10.04 to see my display
[21:40] <guntbert> sint: change some config, save it, then you edit ~/.mc/ini
[21:40] <maco> greezmunkey: nautilus has split screens like dolphin? i thought it just had tabs
[21:40] <sint> greezmunkey: ok i prefer mc over nautilus in terminal ;)
[21:40] <BitEncrypt_> i messed up my comp. by installing kubuntu would like to have the boot up screen say ubuntu again
[21:41] <oCean_> BitEncrypt_: not 100% sure if that works for Kubuntu also, but installing "ubuntu-desktop" should do the trick. (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[21:41] <greezmunkey> maco, yes there's a check box for it.
[21:41] <BitEncrypt_> thx
[21:41] <maco> BitEncrypt_: just remove the kubuntu plymouth theme package, i think
[21:41] <remaxim_> thanks, bye
[21:41] <sint> guntbert: changing config, sounds like a good idea. what config and where?
[21:41] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Before Jumping to Install Ubuntu through wubi | did you check running it with the CD without installing & did you see the wi-fi
[21:41] <greezmunkey> maco: view, extra pane
[21:41] <renodude181> Night_Rider: you there?
[21:41] <renodude181> nvr mind
[21:42] <sint> guntbert: the layout menu in mc isn't what i was looking for
[21:42] <guntbert> sint: in mc, press F9,(O)ptions, select confiramtions, change confirm execute to yes
[21:42] <greezmunkey> maco: you can change the tabs to a location bar in gconf-editor
[21:42] <maco> greezmunkey: neato. almost as good as kde (which still lets you switch to path mode using your mouse) ;-)
[21:42] <renodude181> Night_Rider: i couldn't get it to run from the CD, not sure why. i've never had this much trouble with ubuntu on other systems
[21:42] <sint> hm ok
[21:42] <pcgeek32147> how do i get 10.04 to see my display
[21:42] <maco> greezmunkey: by tabs i didnt mean the breadcrumbs
[21:42] <Adamantus10> My Ubuntu keeps getting a gap in the tray area
[21:43] <maco> greezmunkey: i meant tabs, like in firefox
[21:43] <guntbert> sint: I know, but that way will get you an ini file created, and then you change that to your liking...
[21:43] <ubuntujenkins> I have written a udev rule  which is  <SUBSYSTEMS=="pci", ATTRS{vendor}=="0x8086", RUN+="/usr/bin/headset"> it is in /etc/udev/rules.d and its file ends in .rules and the permissions match all of the others. the info on the device is http://paste.ubuntu.com/438475/ here any suggestions on what i have done wrong?
[21:43] <greezmunkey> maco: yeah, nautilus is much better now. Definately improoved.
[21:43] <Adamantus10> 10.04 Lucid
[21:43] <tim_> Is there any known way to make ubuntu 10.04 close the user session after a certain amount of time.  The reason for this is that my kids forget to close their sessions then all of there allotted minutes to use the computer in Nanny are eaten up.
[21:43] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : You are making things more complicated then already it is...try booting from the CD and check for the wi-fi.
[21:43] <sint> guntbert: thanks alot. maybe i should paint my mc in yellow now ;)
[21:44] <sint> guntbert: nice config file
[21:44] <mkhanyisi> what do you want to do pcgeek32147 ?
[21:44] <Juniksz> Hello. Somebody help me. I can not solve the problem. The tty out of the picture. You can check it: http://81.182.21.241/DSC00366.JPG and http://81.182.21.241/DSC00367.JPG
[21:44] <DeeTah> hi guys
[21:44] <BitEncrypt_> maco: where would i find that file
[21:44] <user_> alguien habla española
[21:44] <user_> alguien habla español?
[21:44] <tim_> Correction:  Is there any known way to make ubuntu 10.04 close the user session after a certain amount of time of inactivity.  The reason for this is that my kids forget to close their sessions then all of there allotted minutes to use the computer in Nanny are eaten up.
[21:44] <maco> !es | user_
[21:44] <DeeTah> my netbook has an VGA output. I'd like it to automatically switch to 1280x1024 once monitor gets plugged in. how to do it?
[21:44] <maco> BitEncrypt_: plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo <-- uninstall that
[21:45] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Ample of option is given | pick the one easy for you.
[21:45] <mkhanyisi> Juniksz, you pics you've attached are so big, they load slow
[21:45] <guntbert> sint: as you like - I even didn't bother with the bold --- I always enable the "lynx-like motion" though
[21:45] <renodude181> Night_Rider: huh?
[21:45] <DeeTah> i mean, is there some way to script it? i know the system can detect VGA plugin, now i just wonder where to look for configuration
[21:45] <voxio> I'm running 10.04 and trying to get into single user mode but the grub prompt isn't displayed
[21:46] <sint> guntbert: maybe i should take look into the manual
[21:46] <voxio> anyone know how I display the grub boot menu?
[21:46] <maco> DeeTah: i dont know where youd put the script, but the script youd need would involve the command xrandr
[21:46] <Adamantus10> How do you show the system tray icon for xchat?
[21:46] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : To resolve you problem ; you got to come around!
[21:46] <voxio> I broke the /etc/sudoers file :>
[21:46] <sotiris> Anybody knowing how to switch on the wifi light in 10.04 netbook?
[21:46] <guntbert> sint: that is never a bad idea :-)
[21:46] <tsimpson> voxio: try holding down shift during boot, if that fails, try escape
[21:46] <maco> voxio: hold shift at boot
[21:46] <mkhanyisi> DeeTah, try reading up on xrandr
[21:46] <voxio> thanks
[21:46] <DeeTah> maco: garthered. now i'm sniffing for some hotplug/udev/wheatever stuff
[21:46] <Slart> tim_: can't you make the screensave log you out? or gnome won't let you do specific stuff to the screensavers..
[21:46] <renodude181> Night_Rider: I'm confused lol
[21:46] <Juniksz> mkhanyisi: ok I make it, a moment
[21:47] <BitEncrypt_> maco: i am very limited with the terminal.....sudo apt-uninstall............???
[21:47] <DeeTah> mkhanyisi: well, i already know that. it's not a problem to write a script, it's a problem to figure out wherre to put it.
[21:47] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Alright ! wipe the slate clean | we start again..
[21:47] <maco> BitEncrypt_: you dont have to use the terminal if you dont want
[21:47] <renodude181> Night_Rider: Ok? now what
[21:47] <maco> BitEncrypt_: you can use system -> administration -> synaptic in ubuntu or kickoff -> computer -> kpackagekit
[21:47] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Run  with the CD without installing & did you see the wi-fi
[21:47] <tim_> slart:  I don't think so but I will look, it does require a password to get back in, but your session is still active as far as nanny is concerned.
[21:48] <maco> BitEncrypt_: but for future reference the terminal way would be "sudo apt-get remove ..."
[21:48] <fox3x> How to install latest ' kopete ' ..thx
[21:48] <mkhanyisi> DeeTah, but why do you want to go such an extra mile just for an external screen? are you plugging and unplugging it every now and then?
[21:48] <Slart> tim_: this looks promising.. but I have no idea how "brutal" it is.. it might just kill all your processes.. and that's not very nice =)
[21:48] <fox3x> ubuntu 10.4
[21:48] <Slart> tim_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/autolog.8.html
[21:49] <Adamantus10> How do you show the system tray icon for xchat?
[21:49] <renodude181> Night_rider: I wasn't able to launch liveCD, it didn't want to do anything from the Cd but exit when booting from it, but using Wubi, ubuntu runs fine, except for the Wifi. I do however get a icon looking like a wifi icon next to the volume, but no connections
[21:49] <xangua> Adamantus10: enable it in xchat's preferences¿
[21:49] <DeeTah> mkhanyisi: well, i just found my netbook kinda... unproductive. tho, i actually moved almost everything from my PC here and i'd like to make it talk with my LCD, full-size keyboard and a mouse. the first one's the deal.
[21:49] <Adamantus10> xangua, So helpful, I have already looked in there
[21:49] <AkA23> hello. i have a small problem. i have a .sh backup made under fedora, and i want to open it and unarchive under ubuntu. how can i do that?
[21:50] <fox3x> how to install latest ' kopete ' chat app
[21:50] <fox3x> thx
[21:50] <maco> fox3x: the kde 4.4.3 one?
[21:50] <sotiris> BROADCOM WIFI PROBLEM IN NETBOOK ANYBODY?
[21:51] <erUSUL> !broadcom | sotiris
[21:51] <maco> fox3x: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3
[21:51] <erUSUL> !caps | sotiris
[21:51] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : The only way to find out ; is to boot it from the CD..(At least you will if its having compatibility related issues)
[21:51] <shani248> ok i followed the xwiki link and added my lcd's native resolution to my xorg.conf, what's happening now is that the monitor showing that it's in native resolution but my display is smaller than the monitor...
[21:51] <sotiris> sorry people
[21:51] <Slart> tim_: this also looks promising.. if a bit hackish http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=956024
[21:51] <fox3x> i am using ' ubuntu 10.4
[21:51] <tim_> slart:  thanks, I had not seen that, it was not installed on my system, but installing now.   Thanks
[21:51] <renodude181> Night_Rider: it won't boot from it, it freezes, it does it on both my laptops
[21:51] <Slart> tim_: let me know how it works out
[21:52] <maco> fox3x: which has kde 4.4.2 in the main repo. if you want the 4.4.3 packages, follow that link
[21:52] <fox3x> k..thx
[21:52] <pcgeek32147> i have a dell mini 10 with intel video and ubuntu says monitor unknown i want to fix it can anyone help
[21:52] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Try Ubuntu 9.10 | instead of 10.04
[21:52] <Juniksz> Now, my problem againwith the new pics:Hello. Somebody help me. I can not solve the problem. The tty out of the picture. You can check it: http://81.182.21.241/DSC00366a.jpg and http://81.182.21.241/DSC00367a.jpg
[21:53] <greezmunkey> Slart: nice link, I had no idea this was available.
[21:53] <renodude181> Night_Rider: whats the difference between the two, shouldn't 10 have what 9 had?
[21:53] <BitEncrypt_> is it possible to enable KDE in ubuntu DE
[21:54] <BitEncrypt_> i think thats what i did
[21:54] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, you are not clear: you have a .sh script or you have archived the .sh folder?
[21:54] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Hardware issue | 9.10 had no booting issues what so ever.
[21:54] <giorgio> hi!...anyone from italy?
[21:54] <mkhanyisi> giorgio, yes, you
[21:55] <pcgeek32147> i have a dell mini 10 with intel video and ubuntu says monitor unknown i want to fix it can anyone help
[21:55] <AkA23> mkhanyisi, i have a .sh file that presumebly contains a htdocs from xampp. it's a 1.5gb file, so i presume it's an archive
[21:55] <LjL> !it | giorgio
[21:55] <giorgio> right mk
[21:55] <renodude181> Night_rider: could the no CD booting issue be a corrupt ISO, cause when launching Wubi from CD it get an error can't find CD. But launching it from the .iso in windows it runs fine?
[21:55] <BitEncrypt_> maco: here is what it says in term.     Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:56] <Slart> greezmunkey: apparently there's a timeoutd package available as well.. does the same thing if I understand it's man page correctly
[21:56] <maco> BitEncrypt_: it means you have an update maanger or synaptic or software center or kpackagekit or something already running
[21:56] <maco> BitEncrypt_: you can only use one at a time
[21:56] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, oh? Do you know what program created such an archive? is it tar, rar, zip, ...?
[21:56] <guntbert> !md5sum | renodude181
[21:56] <dupondje> Hi, I just installed nvidia drivers, but seems they 'lag' a bit more then nouveau, any idea whats causing that ?
[21:57] <AkA23> mkhanyisi, the file is xampp-backup-14-05-10.sh
[21:57] <Juniksz> Someone know how can i solve the tty problem? The tty out of the picture.  http://81.182.21.241/DSC00366a.jpg and http://81.182.21.241/DSC00367a.jpg
[21:57] <Night_Rider> renodude181 : Did you try Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:58] <pcgeek32147> i have a dell mini 10 with intel video and ubuntu says monitor unknown i want to fix it can anyone help\
[21:58] <|littlebear|> Juniksz: u're hillarious
[21:59] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, I would suggest to unpack that archive on fedora using xampp and create a tar archive instead and send it to ubuntu
[22:00] <AkA23> well, i just installed an ubuntu on vmware because i didnt had any fedore files
[22:00] <AkA23> cds*
[22:00] <AkA23> mkhanyisi, and what command/program do i use on fedora to open it?have any ideea?
[22:01] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, I think you should use xampp
[22:01] <pcgeek32147>  juniksz: have a dell mini 10 with intel video and ubuntu says monitor unknown i want to fix it can anyone help
[22:01] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, as far as I know, this is not a 'regular' format like tar rar or zip
[22:01] <bondiblueos9> is there any way to know how much has been written to a tape drive?
[22:02] <Night_Rider> pcgeek32147 : Are you able to increase | decrease the resolution that basically that you are after!
[22:03] <DeeTah> i need to run a script everytime anything gets connected to my netbook's VGA slot. how to do it?
[22:03] <guntbert> !!crosspost | bondiblueos9
[22:03] <Juniksz> pcgeek32147: so what should i do?
[22:03] <the_padawan2> hello all. I've had desktop effects working for a long time, but suddenly (possibly after upgrade) they stopped. If I set Visual Effects to Normal or Extra I get a messagebox 'Desktop effects could not be enabled.' glxgears gives 'Error: glXCreateContext failed.' nvidia driver is loaded and shows up in lsmod. Any ideas?
[22:04] <mkhanyisi> AkA23, check this link out: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#backup
[22:04] <pcgeek32147> night_rider: yes i can but no hdmi
[22:05] <ne7work_> hello all please someone tell me how I can delete my audio driver ?
[22:05] <ne7work_> how can i delete the creative audio driver from my ubuntu 10.04
[22:06] <pcgeek32147> i want my hdmi to work
[22:06] <soreau> pcgeek32147: Which graphics driver is it?
[22:06] <Night_Rider> ! multimedia | pcgeek32147
[22:07] <ne7work_> how can i delete the creative audio driver from my ubuntu 10.04
[22:07] <soreau> ne7work: Why do you want to delete a driver? blacklisting it might be a better option
[22:07] <Hopeless8009> what command to you use to control your nics
[22:07] <mkhanyisi> the_padawan2, try compiz-check: http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[22:07] <Hopeless8009> ne7work: what did you use to install it
[22:08] <the_padawan2> mkhanyisi: will do, thanks
[22:08] <BitEncrypt> maco: i know what i did....i clicked on Sys. Admin. software sources, and it automatically ran the KDE, my mouse cursor changed...how do i bring it back to ubuntu DE
[22:08] <maco> BitEncrypt: it ran the kde?
[22:09] <BitEncrypt> i think
[22:09] <Hopeless8009> what is a good refreance to terminal commands and what they do
[22:09] <maco> BitEncrypt: thatd involve logging out and back in...
[22:09] <Hopeless8009> any one know
[22:09] <BitEncrypt> thats when i got the kubuntu boot screen
[22:09] <ne7work_> Hopeless8009, i want to install latest version of my sound card driver
[22:09] <git__> how is 10.04 running so far for you folks?
[22:09] <soreau> the_padawan2: If you upgraded to 10.04, the nouveau module may be loaded..
[22:09] <BitEncrypt> ive tried that
[22:09] <maco> BitEncrypt: software sources isnt the one to remove the kubuntu boot screen though
[22:09] <ne7work_> i have problem with install newer version
[22:09] <maco> BitEncrypt: its synaptic that lets you uninstall it
[22:09] <ne7work_> please someone help me
[22:09] <Hopeless8009> ne7work
[22:10] <Hopeless8009> ne7work: did you use the apt-get command
[22:10] <soreau> ne7work: Most audio drivers are packaged with the kernel. Is there some reason you think you need a newer version?
[22:10] <the_padawan2> can anyone help debug this compiz-check output: http://pastebin.com/AV9y35Tz
[22:11] <ne7work_> Hopeless8009, for what i use?
[22:11] <the_padawan2> soreau: did not upgrade
[22:11] <soreau> the_padawan2: Using 10.04?
[22:11] <the_padawan2> soreau: no, 9.04. It's been working great until now
[22:11] <Hopeless8009> ne7work: im real new i just didnt know if you used that command to install it
[22:11] <lavin> please i need assistance with my kernel upgrade
[22:11] <Hopeless8009> ne7work: if so you can do apt-get remove "name)
[22:12] <soreau> the_padawan2: First thing I would do is check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any interesting messages, then try reinstalling the nvidia driver
[22:12] <badnaam> hello all, my touchpad is driving me nuts..it cursor flies all over the place when I am typing on my laptop, i have configured the setting to turn it off during typing but it doesn't work..any ideas?
[22:12] <BitEncrypt_> maco:when i click on software sources it says>>> please run this software with administrative rights. To do so, run this program with kdesudo.
[22:12] <Hopeless8009> does anyone have a link to terminal commands
[22:12] <maco> BitEncrypt: not software sources
[22:12] <maco> BitEncrypt: thats the wrong one
[22:12] <ne7work_> i try to install newer version of creative audio driver
[22:12] <BitEncrypt_> i have 2
[22:12] <ne7work_> cd '/home/ne7work/Desktop/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00'
[22:12] <BitEncrypt_> software sources
[22:12] <soreau> ne7work: why?
[22:13] <maco> BitEncrypt: yes because theres a kde version and a gnome version.
[22:13] <ne7work_> after it i write in terminal
[22:13] <BitEncrypt_> ok
[22:13] <ne7work_> sudo make
[22:13] <ne7work_> and..
[22:13] <maco> BitEncrypt: but i dont understand why you are clicking on *either* of them
[22:13] <misil_14> are there softwares for gnome ubuntu like screenlets?
[22:13] <Hopeless8009> ne7work: you want to find an open source dirver if you can
[22:13] <maco> BitEncrypt: because you should be clicking "synaptic package manager" not "software sources"
[22:13] <ne7work_> http://pastebin.com/sFt9iazc
[22:13] <BitEncrypt_> ok
[22:13] <maco> misil_14: screenlets are generally used for gnome
[22:13] <the_padawan2> soreau: i'm going to try reinstalling the driver, thanks.
[22:14] <soreau> ! who | ne7work
[22:14] <misil_14> maco: screenlets are not working fine...
[22:14] <maco> misil_14: oh
[22:14] <ne7work_> !tab
[22:14] <ne7work_> !tab http://pastebin.com/sFt9iazc
[22:14] <misil_14> anyway. so how to reset all configurations for screenlets ?
[22:14] <ne7work_> soreau, http://pastebin.com/sFt9iazc
[22:14] <ne7work_> Hopeless8009, http://pastebin.com/sFt9iazc
[22:14] <mtskvan> you know some channel for free lancer projects?
[22:15] <BitEncrypt_> maco: I did uninstall KDE
[22:15] <ne7work> :(
[22:16] <maco> BitEncrypt: did you uninstall plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo ?
[22:16] <donpdonp>  'Connecting you to the Ubuntu One Music Store...'  sits there forever. no 'back' button either. sigh.
[22:16] <maco> BitEncrypt: and are you trying to get rid of *all* kde stuff on your system and just go to pure gnome?
[22:17] <maco> !puregnome | BitEncrypt if you want to get rid of everything kde-related:
[22:17] <NimbleRabit> How do I figure out the speed I'm transferring a file?  I'm trying to see how fast I can write to a network drive I have mounted, but when pasting a file there it doesn't show the speed.
[22:17] <jude> so
[22:17] <anjamaus> hm
[22:17] <donpdonp> NimbleRabit: if you're loadinga url, wget will show the speed
[22:17] <jude> i had a 9.10 installation. now i have a fresh 10.04 installation
[22:18] <jude> i would like to migrate all of my home dir contents to the new installation
[22:18] <NimbleRabit> I'm just transferring from my hard drive to a network drive, no URL involved.  I want to see how fast I can transfer files over my network.
[22:18] <jude> dropping in the home dir as a replacement doesn't go smoothly
[22:18] <jude> instead of a login screen i have a back screen
[22:18] <xvf> you could drag and drop, go to places - computer
[22:18] <soreau> ne7work: First of all you don't need sudo to run make. Second, it seems you are missing some header though I can't tell which that might be
[22:18] <xvf> jude %^
[22:19] <maco> jude: your login screen should have nothing to do with whats in /home ... thatd be in /etc
[22:19] <Cosmo`> does anyone know how to configure ubuntu to stop holding up boot if a drive isn't available for mounting?
[22:19] <jude> thats what i thought
[22:19] <maco> Cosmo`: change your /etc/fstab to have "noauto" on the drive that might not be there
[22:20] <Cosmo`> ideally maco i'd like it to TRY and automatically mount it
[22:20] <Cosmo`> but not sit there waiting if it can't
[22:20] <maco> Cosmo`: oh.
[22:20] <Cosmo`> it's a headless server so it's so aggrevating to have to plug in a keyboard and monitor when i've either a) forgotten to turn on the external hard disk
[22:20] <Cosmo`> or something has gone wrong
[22:21] <the_padawan2> soreau: Reinstalling nvidia driver resolved issue. I forgot that I had installed a later driver version than what is in the repos. I guess some update wasn't exactly compatible with my configuration. Thanks for the help!
[22:21] <Cosmo`> because then if it all goes right
[22:21] <Cosmo`> i need to log in and mount the drive to use the file server
[22:21] <Cosmo`> which is pretty aggrevating
[22:22] <maco> Cosmo`: sounds like something to do with mountall but im not knowledgeable about the boot process
[22:22] <mistergibson> on Lucid: can barely frigg'n read the dim text ... anyone got a how-to on setting the console text palette to something brighter??
[22:22] <Irunongames> Ubuntu does not regotonize my iPod
[22:22] <audifahrer> Heloo
[22:22] <audifahrer> Hello
[22:22] <alone> hi
[22:22] <Stormx2> mistergibson, , Edit > Profiles
[22:22] <Cosmo`> alright, thanks maco
[22:22] <anodesni> does ubuntu lts eventually update the kernel to a new point release (e.g. does 10.04 will include 2.6.35)?
[22:23] <mistergibson> Stormx2: in what app is that?
[22:23] <acicula> anodesni, thats very unlikely
[22:23] <audifahrer> Since I installed 10.04 I have strange svn problems. Has anyone also hit this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/463294
[22:23] <audifahrer> ?
[22:23] <Night_Rider> Irunongames : what about the USB ?
[22:23] <mistergibson> Stormx2: I mean the console, not gnometerminal
[22:23] <maco> Stormx2: tty, not gnome-terminal, i think mistergibson means
[22:23] <killown> what program can i use to create pcx image?
[22:23] <Irunongames> Night_Rider, it's connected
[22:23] <maco> mistergibson: erm...brighter than white?
[22:23] <Stormx2> mistergibson, gnome-terminal. If you're talking about tty... I don't know. It should be pure white.
[22:23] <Irunongames> AND being charged
[22:23] <anodesni> acicula, not even at a point release? 10.04.2? e.g
[22:23] <alone> what the best irc for linux?
[22:23] <mistergibson> maco, Stormx2: seriously, only bold white even shows up
[22:23] <ikonia> !best | alone
[22:23] <maco> !best | alone
[22:23] <maco> mistergibson: its not bold for you by default?
[22:23] <mkhanyisi> killown, what about the gimp
[22:24] <mistergibson> maco: evidently not
[22:24] <killown> mkhanyisi, i think gimp can't creat pcx images
[22:24] <mistergibson> maco: you know where the text console color palettes are stored?
[22:24] <mkhanyisi> killown, why pcx?
[22:24] <roygbiv> channel polls can be fun, but not in heavy scroll channels like this one
[22:24] <Night_Rider> Irunongames : Try circling through Amarok.
[22:24] <maco> mistergibson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure consolekit should let you change the font to a thicker one
[22:24] <acicula> anodesni, the focus is on continuity and stability, a major revision bump would be counterproductive
[22:24] <killown> mkhanyisi, because i am customizing ubuntu logo splash.pcx
[22:24] <mistergibson> maco: I see
[22:24] <mistergibson> maco: thanks
[22:24] <Irunongames> Night_Rider, "circling"?
[22:24] <Irunongames> I am new to ubuntu :/
[22:24] <maco> mistergibson: but if white isnt bright enough on your screen, that sounds like a your-screen issue
[22:25] <anodesni> acicula, such as providing better video drivers
[22:25] <mistergibson> maco: no, its not
[22:25] <mistergibson> maco: been using it for years just fine
[22:25] <mkhanyisi> killown, what are you using to customize it then?
[22:25] <mistergibson> maco: its the color palette actually and perhaps the scan rate
[22:25] <Night_Rider> Irunongames : Try  Amarok see if you can see there!
[22:25] <mistergibson> gfxtext @ 1024.768
[22:25] <roygbiv> or color temperature
[22:26] <killown> mkhanyisi i need create a new logo
[22:26] <maco> mistergibson: well if ists a CRT those *do* get darker with age. possibly the colour its showing is meant to be a very light grey i guess. you could change stuff in your ~/.profile i think
[22:26] <acicula> anodesni, if you want the latest use the rolling ubuntu release
[22:26] <mkhanyisi> killown, I've just confirmed it, the gimp CAN create .pcx files!
[22:26] <edlik> my computer has a pentium 4 processor, should I use a 64 bit os?
[22:26] <killown> mkhanyisi i will try again, thanks
[22:26] <Droas> You can't.
[22:26] <roygbiv> edlik: no
[22:26] <mistergibson> maco: its actually system-wide I'm looking to alter
[22:27] <Cosmo`> some of the P4's should support EM64T
[22:27] <linxeh> edlik: depends on the processor
[22:27] <anodesni> acicula, rolling ubuntu!? you mean the development version?
[22:27] <maco> mistergibson: /etc/profile then
[22:27] <linxeh> edlik: generally you should buy a new processor though :o
[22:27] <Night_Rider> edlik : 32 bit will work fine.
[22:27] <Irunongames> Night_Rider, ok, trying again
[22:27] <acicula> anodesni, well the latest stable release or yeah running the devel version. you'll have to choose, stability or every new feature
[22:27] <edlik> is there an advantage to 64 bit?
[22:28] <maco> edlik: can use >4gb of ram. oh but wait 32bit with pae can do that too so uh.... can do really crazy math
[22:28] <NimbleRabit> Can somebody help me figure out why I only transfer files at 13 megabytes/second (average) to another computer in my house (which runs ubuntu as well), but my windows machine transfers at around 26 megabytes/second to the same computer?  I'm getting about half speeds going through the same switch.
[22:28] <roygbiv> maco: crazy math?
[22:28] <Irunongames> Night_Rider,  Yay! it worked! But I think it's because I un-jailbroke my iPod :/
[22:28] <maco> roygbiv: as in rendering
[22:28] <roygbiv> you have access to the same floating point registers
[22:28] <switch10_> quit
[22:28] <maco> roygbiv: or scientific calculations
[22:28] <edlik> thanks folks
[22:29] <maco> roygbiv: i thought you could have larger floating point operations with 64
[22:29] <Night_Rider> Irunongames : :-)
[22:29] <Irunongames> :D :D :D Thanks!!! :D
[22:29] <roygbiv> maco you could be right. pentium 4 is a bit old for my memory heh
[22:29]  * Irunongames goes to rock and or roll
[22:29] <Cosmo`> sse ops should be the same regardless of whether you're running in 64 bit or 32 bit mode
[22:29] <maco> roygbiv: oh i dont know if p4 could do it. im surprised to hear ANY of those are 64bit
[22:29] <Cosmo`> but of course a P4 won't have SSE3 etc etc.
[22:30] <maco> roygbiv: but i think amd64 allows for larger floating point numbers
[22:30] <mkhanyisi> killown, http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2858/screenshot1vs.png
[22:30] <roygbiv> ooh a screenshot. must click
[22:30] <Green_Tea> I'm installing ubuntu on a netbook, how large should the boot partition be?  If it's larger, will it boot faster?
[22:30] <greezmunkey> NimbleRabit: I would trust the numbers a *nix machine gave me for transfer rates over windows anytime.
[22:30] <acicula> Green_Tea, small, and no
[22:31] <acicula> Green_Tea, there is little incentive to have one even unless you use full disc encryption. ext2/100Mb should be more then enough
[22:31] <greezmunkey> NimbleRabit: transfer the same file from both, and time them.
[22:31] <roygbiv> any ideas why gnome-keyring isn't loading my ssh keys on 10.04?
[22:31] <killown> mkhanyisi, i know, i am creating with gimp but this image does not work for splash.pcx.. i am trying create a customized ubuntu iso cd
[22:31] <Night_Rider> maco : 64 bit is the Processor
[22:31] <kroms> Hi
[22:32] <maco> Night_Rider: er...thats not a processor model
[22:32] <kroms> Anyone get two finger scrolling to work?  I'm trying to figure it out with the SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad
[22:32] <maco> Night_Rider: nor is it an architecture
[22:32] <greezmunkey> NimbleRabit: maco: try this in a terminal ;) :cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model"
[22:32] <maco> Night_Rider: several architectures (such as amd64 and ia64) qualify as 64bit
[22:33] <Night_Rider> maco : What Board ?
[22:33] <maco> Night_Rider: why do you care?
[22:34] <zgoldberg> Hello!  Has anybody heard of an issue where an asus eee pc 1201 (or other machine) will hang or get very very very slow when accessing sound preferences in Lucid?
[22:34] <Night_Rider> maco : Just looking if I too can jump on 64 bit?
[22:35] <acicula> Night_Rider, ia64 is a 64 bit vliw architecture, which is not used in consumer hardware
[22:35] <maco> Night_Rider: i see. well i use a intel core 2 duo on this machine (which is amd64)
[22:35] <maco> Night_Rider: dunno what the mobo is. some asus thing.
[22:35] <maco> acicula: itanic ;-)
[22:36] <acicula> Night_Rider, any recent desktop will be able to run ubuntu 64bit code, just (some?) atoms cant
[22:36] <coolstuff> so I'm thinking about building my own PC, but with Ubuntu as the main OS
[22:36] <Night_Rider> maco : I am on intel / amd i have never used.
[22:36] <coolstuff> any parts anyone recommends?
[22:37] <enriq> hi is there a mortal kombat like game for ubuntu?
[22:37] <maco> Night_Rider: most intel 64bit cpus are amd64
[22:37] <MPX> People play mortal kombat on the computer?
[22:38] <MPX> maco, IA64?
[22:38] <acicula> coolstuff, err most desktop components should work just fine, dont overspend on the processor
[22:38] <coolstuff> hmm
[22:38] <maco> Night_Rider: they license the amd64 architecture from amd because intel's own 64bit architecture (ia64 aka itanium, known in the ubuntu developer sphere as "itanic" because so little successfully builds on it) is not backwards compatible with 32bit operating systems
[22:38] <MPX> maco, what really?
[22:38] <acicula> heu ia64 is not remotely related to x86 or amd64
[22:38] <coolstuff> I was just wondering 'cause I heard there were some parts that Linux doesn't work with
[22:38] <maco> MPX: yes
[22:38] <MPX> IA64 is not compatible with 32 bit?
[22:39] <maco> MPX: righto
[22:39] <MPX> Holy...
[22:39] <renodude18> Night_Rider: sorry got another blue screen again
[22:39] <MPX> Hahaha :D
[22:39] <maco> acicula: yes, some newer atoms are 64bit, but the originals were 32bit-only
[22:40] <kroms> nevermind, got two finger scrolling to work.
[22:40] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : What were you doing getting Blue screen. (Please Explain)
[22:41] <maco> coolstuff: i recommend intel if you have a wireless card
[22:41] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Places menu opening FTP bookmarks for nautilus into Firefox instead of Nautilus.. anybody know a fix?
[22:41] <acicula> coolstuff, yeah there are some parts, but that pertains mostly to laptops or wireless cards
[22:41] <renodude18> Night_Rider: I'm getting the blue screen from the virtual machine. I don't think this machine can run it, so i installed pidgin on windows for now.
[22:41] <maco> coolstuff: and really, intel for graphics too. very good open source drivers. nvidia & ati have spotty drivers
[22:42] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Virtual Machine | 1. Microsoft Virtual Machine 2. VMware 3. Sun Virtual Box (which one)
[22:42] <coolstuff> I see. I'll go with Intel then, thanks for telling me that
[22:42] <maco> coolstuff: the main problem with nvidia & ati is they remove support for cards from their drivers every so often and then people get upset because gosh darn it this hardware's only two years old and its unsupported again!
[22:42] <sabat> nvidia's drivers are not horrible, ati is a bitch tho.
[22:43] <coolstuff> ha, they should fix that
[22:43] <maco> sabat: watch your language please
[22:43] <renodude18> Night_Rider: Oracle VM Sunvirtual box, forgot that microsoft had one too lol
[22:43] <acicula> coolstuff, if you want to play games you'll want either an nvidia or ati card, otherwise just an intel will do just fine too
[22:43] <maco> coolstuff: in the open drivers, folks can fix that. but not in the proprietary ones.
[22:44] <maco> coolstuff: theres a project called nouveau that has working (and fast) 2d and theyre starting on 3d stuff for nvidia, and thats open source
[22:44] <coolstuff> well I was planning on playing games, but an i7 card would be sufficient, wouldn't it?
[22:44] <coolstuff> oh, awesome
[22:44] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Are you sure you are going with the default setting to install  Ubuntu
[22:44] <acicula> i was using ati binary drivers on an old 9700 pro not so long ago, 2 years of support seems a bit of a stretch
[22:44] <maco> coolstuff: and ati has a proprietary driver that mostly works but occasionally drops hardware support at which point you switch to the open source driver which may or may not have 3d support for that card but at least has 2d
[22:45] <renodude18> Night_Rider: On which, the Wubi install or the Virtual box install?
[22:45] <MACscr> why is it that when i import a theme, it doesnt seem to give it its own name and just goes under the custom category? that means that i cant have more than one custom theme installed at a time (obviously im not wanting them running at the same time)
[22:45] <maco> acicula: im not sure exactly how long as i only use intel graphics, but i have seen rants about how this hardware's not that old and how dare they
[22:45] <coolstuff> hmm, okay, so should I go with an i7 Intel card or an ati/nvidia card
[22:45] <renodude18> Night_Rider: I'm not worried about the virtual box install. its getting the wireless working in the Wubi install that matters most
[22:46] <acicula> maco, thats more likely related to people ranting about why the latest revision does not include their gfx anymore and they have to install the legacy version instead
[22:46] <maco> coolstuff: i guess it depends how long you tend to keephardware ;-)
[22:46] <sabat> ya, my laptop video card became unsupported, it an ATI. my laptop isn't even that old. it
[22:46] <coolstuff> i7 it is!
[22:46] <maco> coolstuff: i keep a desktop going for about 10 years
[22:46] <coolstuff> oh wow
[22:46] <coolstuff> 10 years
[22:46] <coolstuff> sheesh
[22:47] <coolstuff> I can only keep one going for about 5 or 6
[22:47] <maco> still got a pentium 2 at dad's place!
[22:47] <maco>  12 years old :)
[22:47] <renodude18> lol i remeber when P2's were king of the computer world, wow that wasn't that long ago!
[22:47] <maco> when it was 9 years old i upgraded it from 192mb ram to 384
[22:47] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Wubi  had complains : 1. Could not login : keyboard 2. wireless ( try to google)
[22:48] <timmy_>  , <M
[22:48] <coolstuff> is it running damn small linux or something, maco?
[22:48] <maco> coolstuff: debian
[22:48] <coolstuff> ah
[22:48] <renodude18> Night_Rider: so the new 10.04 Wubi is troublesome?
[22:48] <maco> coolstuff: 5gb hard drive. can handle plenty more than dsl ;-) and i did have ubuntu 7.04 on it at one point
[22:48] <coolstuff> oh, awesome
[22:49] <coolstuff> actually
[22:49] <coolstuff> I'm running 10.04 on my '06 iMac right now
[22:49] <coolstuff> works fine
[22:49] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Let me put this way (how many times did you try to install Ubuntu through wubi)
[22:51] <renodude18> Night_Rider: twice, both times work. but i was told that i could access windows files from ubuntu, but wasn't so i did a re-install
[22:53] <greezmunkey> lo
[22:53] <acerimmer> renodude18: wubi is a pain to maintain bcz of windows faults.  Urge you to consider a side by side dual boot installation
[22:54] <craigbass1976> When I switch users on a lucid box, everything goes black with a pointer.  I am ssh-ed into the box though, so it's not too crazy, but sitting at the box itself I can't see anything
[22:54] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : You installer (wubi) is corrupted.. 2) Un-install (remove it from the windows registry also & try again.
[22:55] <renodude18> acerimmer: I would but i don't want to mess with the hard drive on this system since windows is still used, I've had problems in the past with not being able to remove the Grub Loader and not getting into windows
[22:55] <renodude18> Night_Rider: Would that Cure the no wireless?
[22:56] <craigbass1976> Also, when I first switch users and hover the pointer around, it switches to a cursor in one section, so I'm guessing the computer is sitll throwing up the passwrod dialog.  Also, Ctrl + Alt + F1 shows nothing, but I can type a username, password, and sudo init 6 to reboot the box
[22:56] <acerimmer> well so long as u understand that you'll likely experience multiple faults under wubi.  Maybe install ubuntu to a windows hosted virtual box?
[22:57] <renodude18> acerrimmer: I already have it installed, its painfully slow on this laptop under a virtual install. so far under wubi it runs fine other then no internet
[22:57] <Theravadan> fs.file-max = 1000000 yet ulimit -n 9999  = ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted .. .why can't I do this?
[22:57] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Piratically you got to try its only through wubi ; later you can simply un-install to get rid of it.
[22:58] <renodude18> Night_Rider: so i need to keep trying to get the wireless working while its installed under wubi, then uninstall it to fix the windows problem?
[22:58] <pfifo> how can i check my harddrive for bad sectors?
[22:59] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : windows problem ?
[23:00] <renodude18> Night_Rider: Meaning not being able to view files on the windows side in ubuntu
[23:00] <s8t8s> hello
[23:01] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : when you are done with Ubuntu you can easily access to resource of windows.
[23:01] <Pytlask1> Heya! Does anyone know of any issues with 10.04 I should know about before upgrading from 9.10?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Pytlask1: yeah
[23:02] <renodude18> Night_Rider: I was told that i can view files from in ubuntu that are on the windows side of things, that is what i was meaning
[23:02] <renodude18> All: does anyone know of a way to get ubuntu 9.10 still?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Pytlask1: if you have propritary Nivida (and I think its ATI as well) driver installed, the boot up may go rather odd on you, since the driver won't like.
[23:02] <sebsebseb> !notes | Pytlask1
[23:03] <Pytlask1> sebsebseb: Ah, thanks!
[23:03] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Yes you can view fies from Ubuntu | as  windows is the header. (its simple)
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Pytlask1: an then theres a way to do text boot, or  opendriver only for boot up
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Pytlask1: np
[23:04] <renodude18> Night_Rider: I figured it would be, but i can't view the files in ubuntu from the windows partition
[23:05] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : What was the error you were getting while trying to...
[23:06] <renodude18> Night_Rider: no error, I would imagine that it would show up on the desktop or in the computer area, it would show up as a hard drive. but no sign of it on ubuntu
[23:07] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : File system dosn't work that way like a USB.
[23:07] <LinuxNoob> When I try to boot into Ubuntu Lucid Lynx, I get something like an ICEauthority error...
[23:08] <renodude18> Night_rider: in previous versions of ubuntu i was able to read a windows/NTFS partition in ubuntu and it would appear on the desktop like another hard drive
[23:08] <MACscr> im getting disconnected quite often to my ftp bookmark. Any tips on what i can do to remedy that?
[23:08] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Places..Network..windows network..(things like that)
[23:08] <Andorin> Is there any way to add this unallocated space to /dev/sda1 without erasing any partitions? http://bayimg.com/image/pamooaaco.jpg
[23:09] <temp> Why doest't 10.04 require me to install nvidia drivers like previous versions where it prompted you if you would like to install nonfree software?
[23:09] <MACscr> temp: it probably is using hte open source ones right now
[23:09] <renodude18> Night_Rider: ok, i'll look into that when i'm on ubuntu again. but how can i get my dell wireless 1370 to work in it. you mentioned earlier that ubuntu 9.10 may work with it?
[23:09] <MACscr> did you go to hardware drivers to see if the nonfree ones were available?
[23:10] <temp> Wow. Didn't know there were open source ones I even searched
[23:10] <pixolin> Hi. It looks like I shot the Ubuntu splash-screen that comes right before the system is booted, the one with the dots under the ubuntu
[23:11] <calibre> How do I copy an extention to another file
[23:12] <pixolin> anyone here with a hint how I get that splash screen back? (I'm not talking about the splash screen where you select, what operating system you want to run.)
[23:12] <calibre> Sorry
[23:12] <calibre> How do I copy a file.
[23:12] <greezmunkey> pixolin: what did you do to kill it?
[23:12] <pfifo> calibre, can you explain a little further
[23:12] <vlt> calibre: cp <file> <copy>
[23:12] <Night_Rider> !Hardware | ronodude18
[23:13] <merlinux> j #archlinux-co
[23:13] <pfifo> calibre, from a terminal, the 'cp' command, or from nautilus, ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[23:13] <pixolin> greezmunkey, I fiddled aroud with grub2 to get another splash screen when you choose your os, but I'm not sure if that was where I shot it.
[23:13] <m_tadeu> does anyone know what package should I install to have kde api documentation?
[23:13] <Andorin> Is there any way to add this unallocated space to /dev/sda1 without erasing any partitions? http://bayimg.com/image/pamooaaco.jpg
[23:13] <renodude18> Night_Rider: HUH??
[23:14] <greezmunkey> pixolin: did you make a copy of /etc/default/grub before you changed it?
[23:14] <pixolin> uhm .... I'm not really sure, I better should check if I have somethin, right?
[23:14] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Check the Compatibility of your Laptop.
[23:15] <pfifo> Andorin, yes, move the other partitions so that all the unallocated space is at the end of sda1 and then resize sda1
[23:15] <renodude18> Night_Rider: Mines not listed
[23:15] <greezmunkey> pixolin: do you remember what file you edited?
[23:16] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : The Thread i gave you before (they also had the similar issues regarding the wireless)
[23:16] <calibre> How do I change back to another directory?
[23:16] <pixolin> greezmunkey, /etc/default/grub
[23:16] <bondiblueos9> popd ?
[23:17] <bondiblueos9> if you got there with pushd
[23:17] <HowardTheDuck> yo
[23:17] <bondiblueos9> and if those are the proper commands
[23:17] <vlt> calibre: `cd -`
[23:17] <renodude18> Night_Rider: so does this mean i have no way of getting it to work?
[23:17] <greezmunkey> calibre: cd .., or cd (back to home), or cd /???/??? there are several possibilities.
[23:17] <armor-64> hi i want to play my playstation games in ubuntu via some program!dou you know how?
[23:17] <pixolin> I made a copy of /etc/grub.d but it looks like I misses /etc/defaults/grub.
[23:17] <armor-64> p.s playstasion 2 games
[23:17] <mkhanyisi> I had two hard drives and one died and I lost data that was on it. I am hearing people talking about RAID, is it advantageous?
[23:18] <erUSUL> !info psx
[23:18] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Be positive ; before jumping to conclusion try getting more help.
[23:18] <greezmunkey> pixolin: are you familiar with http://paste.ubuntu.com - the pastebin?
[23:18] <pixolin> yes, sure
[23:18] <vlt> mkhanyisi: RAID is good for not having to shutdown your machine when one of the disks fails. But it's not a replacement for backups.
[23:18] <nishanth> can some one help me with a plugin issue on firefox or chrome?
[23:18] <greezmunkey> pixolin: copy the contents of /etc/default/grub so we can go through it.
[23:19] <pixolin> greezmunkey, you want me to paste my ... OK, I see ...
[23:19] <vlt> mkhanyisi: (and you'll keep the data you changed between the last backup and the disk failure, of course ;-)
[23:19] <renodude18> Night_Rider: OK, but after three days of searching, I can't find anything that will work with it. i don't know what to do. i've never had this much of a problem with ubuntu since version 5 something
[23:19] <mkhanyisi> vlt, that was straight to the point. thanks. I thought raid means that you dont have to backup anything
[23:19] <liminal> hello
[23:19] <liminal> im getting a serious error when i install ubuntu
[23:19] <liminal> error informing the kernal about modifications to the partion dev/sda5 -- device or resource buys. This means linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda5 untill you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting
[23:19] <liminal> anyone know what the hell is going on with my install?
[23:19] <FloodBot1> liminal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <wage> The files /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_ZA are causing problems for a script of mine, is it safe to delete them? Are they just un needed language files?
[23:20] <pfifo> isnt there a way to supress join/part messages in xchat?
[23:20] <mkhanyisi> vlt, so If i want RAID, my hard drives should be identical?
[23:20] <pixolin> greezmunkey, I pasted that under http://paste.ubuntu.com/438525/
[23:20] <bondiblueos9> mkhanyisi, there are a few kinds of raid
[23:20] <bondiblueos9> mkhanyisi, but if you had a mirrored set up, then yes they would
[23:21] <vlt> mkhanyisi: With RAID your server still can get destroyed by a plane crash or a user or drunken admin still delete important stuff ;-)
[23:21] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : Where you on the same laptop? from version 5
[23:21] <greezmunkey> pixolin: change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" splash vga=786 quiet"
[23:21] <pixolin> yep, just saw hat line
[23:21] <pixolin> what would I enter there?
[23:22] <renodude18> Night_Rider: No, that was my old desktop that is way gone and dead now
[23:22] <vlt> mkhanyisi: No. Usually you'll be able to use the size of the smallest disks from every other
[23:22] <greezmunkey> pixolin: to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" - ok, the sudo update-grub, and restart to test
[23:22] <pfifo> mkhanyisi, RAID will only use the size of the smallest drive for all 3, so they should be of equal size, however using identical drives makes shopping easier
[23:23] <greezmunkey> pixolin: ...then sudo update-grub...sorry I can't type today.
[23:23] <pixolin> greezmunkey, OK, I'll try that
[23:23] <Night_Rider> renodude18 : I am really not much familiar with DELL hardware..(later in the session keep asking)
[23:23] <mkhanyisi> vlt, bondiblueos9, pfifo thanks guys, however this thing look tedious
[23:23] <pixolin> greezmunkey, thanks
[23:23] <nishanth> can some one help me with a plugin issue on firefox or chrome?
[23:23] <wad> Hi guys. I just upgraded my computer to 10.04, but grub got confused. It's a dual-boot box, windows on sda, linux on sdb. I had it auto-fix grub-pc, and now I can boot to linux, but the windows boot just sits there and does nothing now. Ideas?
[23:23] <greezmunkey> pixolin: ok :)
[23:23] <renodude18> Night_Rider: Ok
[23:23] <vlt> mkhanyisi: It's VERY easy.
[23:23] <BrainDance> Hey I have a question about whether something is possible or not in Ubuntu, so I don't need actual detailed instructions on how to do it, but just to know if I can possibly do it
[23:24] <BrainDance> So, I'm hoping someone can help me, I asked the other day but everyone was busy
[23:24] <wad> There is no more menu.lst in here... I'm lost!
[23:24] <Night_Rider> nishanth : Plugin issues ???
[23:24] <renodude18> Everyone: Does anyone know how to get a Dell Wireless 1370 MiniPCI to work in Ubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu period?
[23:24] <eye-zak> wad: now using grub2 see /etc/default/grub
[23:24] <greezmunkey> pixolin: you there!!
[23:24] <XStatik> Whats the best cd/dvd burner for ubuntu
[23:24] <wad> thanks, eye-zak!
[23:24] <pixolin> greezmunkey, how about line 7?
[23:24] <Izinucs> How do I discover the current running kernel via cli?
[23:24] <mnemon> well ... how about you ask the question then BrainDance
[23:25] <BrainDance> I have a laptop connected to a wireless router and of course, internet connection. Now I have a desktop with a wifi card in it, it doesn't have the range to connect to the wireless network
[23:25] <nishanth> Night_Rider yes i am not able to play some online live streaming videos
[23:25] <greezmunkey> pixolin: heh, there are others you should probably fix
[23:25] <ania_> wad, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:25] <BabyJesus> brainDance, and?
[23:25] <BrainDance> but it can connect to an ad hoc connection if I use wicd, but then the laptop cant connect to the router
[23:25] <vlt> mkhanyisi: AS I said the disks don't _have_ to be identical.  With RAID1 you simply mirror your disk: You get 500 MB out of two 500 MB disks, for example. With RAID5 you get (n-1)*min(size)
[23:25] <BrainDance> if I get another pcmcia wifi card, stick it in the laptop
[23:25] <BabyJesus> BRainDance, oh
[23:25] <Night_Rider> nishanth : what error you are getting?
[23:25] <BrainDance> can I set up an adhoc connection between the desktop and the laptop, and share the internet connection?
[23:25] <nishanth> Night_Rider it says missing plugin in chrome.
[23:26] <BrainDance> while, of course, having the original wireless connection still going in the laptop?
[23:26] <greezmunkey> pixolin: L7 is ok, place a # in front of L17 as well
[23:26] <pixolin> greezmunkey, tell me more ...
[23:26] <BrainDance> I dont know if I explained it well, kind of convoluted, but is that a possibility?
[23:26] <Night_Rider> nishanth : let me give you a link..
[23:26] <greezmunkey> pixolin: just noticed those...
[23:26] <nishanth> Night_Rider it is the microsoft media server plugin or MMS plugin
[23:26] <pixolin> what if I place a # in front of line 8?
[23:26] <mnemon> BrainDance: yes, you propably can do that
[23:26] <renodude18> anyone know how  to get a dell wireless 1370 to work in ubuntu?
[23:26] <nishanth> Night_Rider ok
[23:26] <mkhanyisi> vlt, thanks
[23:27] <lyrae> anyone using gnome elementary?
[23:27] <pfifo> is it just me or is freenode seem to have a very high latency today?
[23:27] <vlt> !anyone | lyrae
[23:27] <BrainDance> Excellent! Thank you very much mnemon, well when I find another wireless pcmcia card somewhere in the basement I'll probably be back, because I know I wont be able to do it right the first time ;)
[23:27] <lyrae> How can i get nautilus to look like this: http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/124225-1.png
[23:27] <WarCthulhu> Does anyone here know how to get steam up and running on 10.04?
[23:28] <pixolin> greezmunkey, OK, placed a # at line 17, too
[23:28] <lyrae> i already have the theme installed
[23:28] <Night_Rider> nishanth : What OS are you using right now.
[23:28] <renodude18> How can i get my wireless card to work in ubuntu?
[23:28] <nishanth> Night_Rider lucid
[23:28] <lyrae> renodude18, is it broadcom/
[23:28] <greezmunkey> pixolin: while you are in there, you may as well change:GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to:GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="ipv6.disable=1"
[23:29] <BrainDance> I have a broadcom card and the only way I could get it to work was to use restricted (?) drivers
[23:29] <renodude18> Lyrae: from what i'm told it is
[23:29] <BrainDance> at the whole "administration>hardware drivers" window
[23:29] <BrainDance> and in order to get that, had to use a wired connection
[23:29] <BrainDance> so maybe that renodude18?
[23:29] <greezmunkey> pixolin: that's it for now, run sudo update-grub, and restart to test
[23:29] <vilhelm> BrainDance: yeah same here
[23:30] <InvaderZim> Problem: Fresh install of Lucid doesn't go beyong login screen at KDM. screen blinks. Weird is, I installed xdm, and it works through xdm. Problem is, beside being ugly, there is no shutdown option, only end session. Any ideas?
[23:30] <zion_> can someone explain what diferent between sudo ap-get dist-upgrade and upgrade????
[23:30] <Kentrel> Everynow and again my Ubuntu starts accessing the disk and becomes unusable for several minutes, in this case 30 minutes. I ended up having to reboot several times to get it working again. What kind of logs can I check to figure out what that was
[23:30] <schnable> if I have two cron jobs scheduled for the same time, will they run in parallel or or one after another?
[23:30] <renodude18> unable to use a wired connection, any other ideas maybe?
[23:30] <Kentrel> Or can I run something in the background to monitor in case it happens again
[23:30] <vlt> schnable: parallel
[23:31] <schnable> vlt: thanks
[23:31] <pixolin> greezmunkey, OK, wish me luck ;-)
[23:31] <pixolin> will reboot now
[23:31] <okapi14> hi guys, i am keep having error with synaptic about a broken package. I remember there is a command to fix this anyone can help?
[23:31] <zion_> can someone explain what diferent between sudo ap-get dist-upgrade and upgrade????
[23:32] <renodude18> any ideas of getting a dell wireless 1370/broadcom to work without a wired connection?
[23:32] <Night_Rider> nishanth : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792833
[23:32] <greezmunkey> pixolin: you'll be fine.
[23:32] <BrainDance> hmm, I'm sure theres another way to get the driver on another computer, and just burn a cd/thumbdrive, something along those lines, but I''m sure everyone here would know far more than I
[23:32] <zion_> renodude18, if u will manegde to do it let me know too
[23:33] <Docolero_> zion_, the man-page could help. try "man apt-get"
[23:33] <pourya> zion: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/
[23:33] <renodude18> I will, but its been three days an no luck so far
[23:33] <zion_> Docolero_, thanks
[23:33] <MPX> In windows, I can remember being able to check my battery status on my keyboard and mouse (wireless)
[23:33] <MPX> Is there such a tool for Ubuntu?
[23:33] <pixolin_> greezmunkey, OK, back ... and everything just perfect
[23:33] <MPX> Prefferably an applet for gnome panel?
[23:33] <pixolin_> thanks for your help
[23:33] <pixolin_> I
[23:34] <greezmunkey> pixolin_: now do some browsing with er, your browser see if you notice it acting "snappier" or not...
[23:34] <Kentrel> Okay, I figured out top is the command I want to use. How do I get the command "top -i -d 60 > ~/monitor.log to run on startup?
[23:34] <endra> hey
[23:34] <pixolin_> I should have found out myself with http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB_2/Konfiguration ...
[23:34] <aurilliance> How do I make a patch?
[23:35] <Andorin> pfifo: Thank you. (A little late, I know.) I didn't know you could just drag a partition in gparted.
[23:35] <aurilliance> ...or use one to fix something on my machine?
[23:35] <aurilliance> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/546487
[23:35] <erUSUL> aurilliance: with diff
[23:35] <pixolin_> well, I disabled ip6 within firefox allready
[23:35] <endra> what happened to grub with this latest update? I can't find the config file in /boot and the menu doesn't even come up anymore - it just boots into ubuntu..
[23:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | endra
[23:35] <vlt> MPX: Sounds like a tool written by your keyboard's vendor. Maybe it's available for linux. maybe
[23:35] <MPX> vlt : Well, I didn't install any driver
[23:35] <MPX> It has a USB reciever
[23:35] <MPX> Windows just showed it...
[23:36] <Night_Rider> MPX : I am not sure but give it a try : Install Ubuntu Tweak
[23:36] <MPX> Ubuntu tweak doesnt have anything
[23:36] <ryankrizan> Hey guys, what's the best way to resize my partitions on an already established system? I have Vista and Ubuntu installed. I want to give Ubuntu some more room.
[23:36] <greezmunkey> pixolin_: I did too, but actually noticed a differance after disabling it completely.
[23:36] <maco> MPX: still sounds like a specialised windows driver thing and that maybe windows happens to include those tweaks
[23:36] <renodude18> how do i get a dell wireless 1370/broadcom to work in ubuntu?
[23:36] <endra> ah I see.. so to update it, is it still update-grub or is it now update-grub2?
[23:37] <nishanth> Night_Rider i did install mozilla-vlc plugin long back and it did not work
[23:37] <vlt> MPX: Sometimes windows drivers are included in the USB devices and automagically installed when plugged in for the first time ...
[23:37] <pixolin_> greezmunkey, OK, I'll check ... thank you so far and good night.
[23:37] <greezmunkey> pixolin_: cya
[23:37] <godricbrutus> does anyone know what's going on here on my fresh install? http://www.imagebam.com/image/83424d81767292
[23:37] <SauLus> I tried removing the nvidia-common proprietary driver to boot using nouveaou. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is installed but the screen remained black. In my xorg.conf explicitly the nvidia driver is listed. How can I switch to nouveau?
[23:38] <vlt> !here | godricbrutus
[23:38] <sabat> that's pretty crazy godricbrutus
[23:38] <Night_Rider> nishanth : I guess are you up to date.
[23:38] <godricbrutus> vlt, i dunno what to say. the fonts look like that
[23:38] <sabat> I really don't know how to describe that in words..
[23:38] <godricbrutus> sabat, have you ever seen that?
[23:38] <nishanth> Night_Rider oh ya i am
[23:38] <godricbrutus> exactly
[23:38] <sabat> yes and no...
[23:39] <godricbrutus> thats why i couldnt say anything but 'here' vlt
[23:39] <renodude18> anyone?
[23:39] <SauLus> godricbrutus: seems like you are using japanese or so without having the fonts or locales for that language installled
[23:39] <sabat> seen that while opening files in notepad that were never meant to be opened in notepad :)
[23:39] <BrainDance> This is just a real stupid question, but I remember a couple releases ago, there was something sort of like the "ubuntu software center" that worked as sort of a more user friendly front for synaptic package manager, but from what I can see, ubuntu software center has replaced it, and I cant find it anymore. I actually dont care for the software center, and synaptic isn't that great for just browsing for new random stuff,, what
[23:39] <BrainDance>  was the program I'm thinking of called, and can I still get it?
[23:39] <Irunongames> I can play songs on my computer but I don;t know how to save the songs to the computer, anyone know how?
[23:39] <Slart> BrainDance: there was an Add/Remove thingy.. not sure if it's available for lucid though
[23:39] <godricbrutus> saulus, it's a fresh install. i don't know how i could be using japanese
[23:39] <Slart> Irunongames: how do you play these songs?
[23:39] <BrainDance> yeah Slart I think that's it
[23:39] <Night_Rider> nishanth : Question the Session...i am out.
[23:40] <aurilliance> How can I apply this patch??? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/546487/comments/2
[23:40] <godricbrutus> anybody have any ideas?
[23:40] <BrainDance> I dont know why I cant get into software center, I guess I'll poke around synaptic for it
[23:40] <vlt> godricbrutus: All I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead ...
[23:40] <BrainDance> thanks a lot Slart
[23:40] <Axilus> Does anyone know if someone has made a script for automatically syncing Unison periodically?
[23:40] <Izinucs> '
[23:40] <Irunongames> Slart,  i just open up "music player"
[23:40] <Slart> BrainDance: you're welcome
[23:40] <Irunongames> It plays the songs, not save them though
[23:40] <vlt> Axilus: cron
[23:40] <godricbrutus> vlt, ?
[23:40] <corpse> Im having problems installing from a USB. the UNetbootin screen comes up and i can only use default or help (everything else just does nothing when clicked) When i hit default it will load the kernal and bring me to the language selection screen, but i think it just freezes there
[23:40] <BrainDance> also, is there sort of a general chat channel? Not tech support  but just talking about ubuntu/linux in general?
[23:41] <renodude18> anyone?
[23:41] <Slart> Irunongames: opening up music player doesn't play any songs.. you're opening songs from somehwere.. your hard drive? web radio?
[23:41] <vlt> godricbrutus: Sorry, this was a movie quote from Matrix.
[23:41] <Loshki> BrainDance: I find 'the perfect desktop' series (google it) very good for ideas about what's most useful to install...
[23:41] <sabat> vtl: /dev/mapper/dumptruck-dt  2.0T   444G   1.5T  24% already got a 1/4 filled :)
[23:41] <godricbrutus> i see
[23:41] <arand> BrainDance: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:41] <Irunongames> iPod
[23:41] <sabat> vlt*
[23:41] <Irunongames> But I want the songs from my iPod to the computer
[23:41] <godricbrutus> i can't even try anything to fix it as i can't navigate around
[23:41] <BrainDance> excellent, thanks a lot arand
[23:41] <funkyHat> ryankrizan: firstly make sure you have adequate backups, then use gparted on an Ubuntu live CD
[23:41] <BrainDance> helpful crowd in here :)
[23:42] <sabat> godricbrutus I got an idea...
[23:42] <funkyHat> ryankrizan: it will take a long time most likely, perhaps several hours
[23:42] <colex> Hello, is there a Linux alternative for Microsoft One Note, besides Tomboy?
[23:42] <godricbrutus> sabat, ok
[23:42] <sabat> godricbrutus Do an integrity check on your cd, I bet you had a corrupted font file
[23:42] <vlt> pfifo_: No, why do you ask?
[23:42] <Slart> colex: I don't think so, no
[23:42] <Axilus> @vlt How would you set that up
[23:42] <aurilliance> How can I apply this patch??? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/546487/comments/2
[23:42] <pfifo_> vlt, i guess that explains it, i asked that like 5 minutes ago
[23:42] <sabat> I bet you just need to reinstall
[23:42] <godricbrutus> sabat, i thought that too. i installed once from cd then re-downloaded and installed from usb
[23:42] <Slart> !patch | aurilliance
[23:43] <godricbrutus> sabat, then again to a dvd
[23:43] <vlt> Axilus: `crontab -e` to edit.
[23:43] <sabat> really? you'ev had this issue on multiple installs?
[23:43] <vlt> pfifo_: Nobody seems to get my jokes today :/
[23:43] <corpse> colex: onenote can be installed via wine or crossover
[23:44] <pfifo_> vlt, what? im on alot of purcaset, i think i missed something
[23:44] <roadie> @weather 89408
[23:45] <roadie> !weather 89408
[23:45] <Slart> !bot | roadie
[23:45] <Axilus> vlt: Thanks a bunch
[23:45] <colex> corpse: yeah but I've searched in appdb and they report it as "garbage", I only have 2003 version , 2007 is out of my possibilities at this moment :(
[23:45] <arand> aurilliance: apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-evtouch, cd into the directory, apply the patch using the patch command, rebuild the package, (debuild & pbuilder are convenient tools for that)
[23:45] <Axilus> vlt: this could also be useful for other tasks :D
[23:45] <vlt> Axilus: Erm, indeed.
[23:45] <Slart> roadie: I'm not sure what you expected ubottu to answer to that.. but I've never seen anyone use a weather command on it
[23:45] <corpse> colex: ahh ic, i have 2007 running just fine on my end
[23:46] <roadie> Slart: just trying to find a bot that will tell me the weather, know of any rooms with one?
[23:46] <pfifo_> !weather 127.0.0.1
[23:47] <clrg> roadie: And how is the bot supposed to know where you are from?
[23:47] <godricbrutus> brb, gona try something
[23:47] <Slart> roadie: nope.. this is the ubuntu support channel.. we do ubuntu support
[23:47] <colex> corpse: may you reccommend any other app for note-taking? I really need one, however Tomboy is not what I'm lookin for.
[23:47] <roadie> Slart: gotcha, thanks for nothin lol
[23:47] <Slart> clrg: geo ip information seems like a reasonable idea
[23:47] <Conan> QUESTION:  When I choose "show controls" in Movie Player when a video is not showing the controls, it stretches the player 100% vertically while shrinking the video's horizontal width to the proper size.  This sucks.  I dont want the player to stretch out and leave large black bars above the video. How do I fix this? See this image ->  http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8161/screenshot7tu.png  This image should not have those black bars at
[23:47] <calibre> Is anyone here good with unrealircd?
[23:47] <iceroot> !anyone | calibre
[23:48] <clrg> Slart: Unreliable
[23:48] <Slart> clrg: when you're asking irc-bots for weather updates you're on pretty shaky ground already =)
[23:48] <bezdomni> colex: Tiddlywiki is cool. You could also use TeX in Emacs :P
[23:48] <calibre> I keep getting this error in unrealircd unrealircd.conf:798: loadmodule src/modules/m_cloakhost.so: failed to load: tmp/2BED425C.m_cloakhost.so: undefined symbol: hidehost can anyone help with this?
[23:49] <calibre> sorry to go off topic.
[23:49] <cyberpunk_> man that was nasty, taking a shower in such a shitty shower
[23:49] <colex> bezdomni: thanks bezdomni LaTex is so complicated, I'll try Tiddlywiki
[23:49] <ki__> uh oh .. upgraded to 10.4 and now i'm getting grub rescue prompt
[23:49] <ki__> i downloaded the rescue remix cd
[23:50] <ki__> the regular format command doesn't seem to be on it ... I don't know which drives are what so i can mount properly
[23:50] <nfotec> calibre - ngircd works
[23:50] <ki__> anyone familiar with this happening?
[23:50] <clrg> Slart: I guess you are from Sweden. Why don't you try http://www.weatherforecastmap.com/sweden/stockholm/
[23:50] <bezdomni> colex: It ain't so bad. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX  good luck :)
[23:50] <cyberpunk_> i did not expect a 45 dollar hotel to be so filthy =/
[23:50] <calibre> nfotec: i mean how do i fix that error.
[23:50] <ki__> I have dual boot windows ... on one disk, and two other disks software raid for linux
[23:50] <ki__> i need to rewrite my MBR
[23:50] <Slart> clrg: oh.. thanks.. but I've got a window =) it was roadie that was looking for weather information =)
[23:50] <|corpse|> Im having problems installing from a USB. the UNetbootin screen comes up and i can only use default or help (everything else just does nothing when clicked) When i hit default it will load the kernal and bring me to the language selection screen, but i think it just freezes there
[23:51] <ki__> but i'm not sure which disks to use to mount /boot and /root from the rescue disk
[23:51] <Requiem1> ups wrong channel
[23:51] <ki__> how can i figure that out? Normally I would use 'format'
[23:51] <Conan> QUESTION:  When I choose "show controls" in Movie Player when a video is not showing the controls, it stretches the player 100% vertically while shrinking the video's horizontal width to the proper size.  This sucks.  I dont want the player to stretch out and leave large black bars above the video. How do I fix this? See this image ->  http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8161/screenshot7tu.png  This image should not have those black bars at
[23:52] <nfotec> calibre - you got undef error in m_cloakhost.so  search google.  possibly missing dev package
[23:52] <calibre> nfotec: Search it for what specifically?
[23:52] <clrg> Slart: Well, that window won't help you much. Its just past midnight
[23:52] <Slart> Conan: smells like a bug.. have you searched launchpad? I doubt that is some kind of feature
[23:53] <Slart> clrg: well.. that's true.. I can stick my head out though =)
[23:53] <Slart> Conan: this one seems appropriate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/534083
[23:53] <funkyHat> Irunongames: in rhythmbox, click on the ipod, then select all songs with ctrl+a, then drag them across to the library
[23:54] <Diazz> Hi, is anyone using samba with Ubuntu 10.04?
[23:54] <vlt> Axilus: Make sure the cronjob runs as a user with an existing .unison directory or you'll have to resolve conflicts afterwards
[23:54] <arand> BrainDance: Found it -> gnome-app-install
[23:54] <clrg> Slart: And it looks like roadie is from the US. Weird 24.180.0.0/16 range.. That country is too big in order to find a wheather forecast for his region.
[23:54] <vlt> !anyone | Diazz
[23:55] <Irunongames> funkyHat, does it happen all at once or slowly?
[23:55] <funkyHat> Irunongames: it takes a while, depends how many songs you have on the iPod
[23:55] <Irunongames> Ok thanks :D
[23:55]  * Irunongames huggles funkyHat 
[23:55] <Slart> clrg: I'm guessing that number he added to the weather command is some kind of postal code.. I would assume ubottu would only recognize south african postal codes if any =)
[23:55] <funkyHat> Irunongames: hold on, you do want to actually copy the files off of your iPod, right?
[23:56] <Irunongames> yea
[23:56] <clrg> !vlc | Conan
[23:56] <funkyHat> Cool
[23:56] <Irunongames> Thanks for the help :)
[23:56] <Diazz> fair enough :) I used samba with ubuntu 9.10 which worked fine. After i did a clean install og 10.04 and installed samba again it didt. I can't get access from windows to shared files
[23:56] <clrg> Conan: Try that one instead of Movie Player
[23:57] <vlt> Diazz: With the very same conf file?
[23:57] <BrainDance> arand, could I just apt-get that?
[23:57] <Conan> clrg: thanks, but I know what VLC is and I asked about Movie Player (Totem).  I was asking a very specific question.  I didnt ask for a media player alternative to Totem.  Thanks anyway.
[23:57] <Conan> Please dont bot me again.
[23:57] <colex> bezdomni: it's web oriented, thanks but ... , wow, I really need something not web-oriented
[23:57] <BrainDance> just tried it, apparently not
[23:57] <Diazz> vlt dont know. I didn't have to edit any config when i used ubuntu 9.10
[23:57] <arand> BrainDance: I was able in karmic, not sure if it's still there in lucid, but try.
[23:57] <BrainDance> how do I get  gnome-app-install?
[23:58] <BrainDance> hmmmm
[23:58] <BrainDance> seems like there has to be a way to force it
[23:58] <bezdomni> colex: Ah, I wasn't sure about that.
[23:58] <vlt> Diazz: Compare the conf files. You can use `diff` for example
[23:59] <bezdomni> colex: look up xournal
[23:59] <arand> BrainDance: Also, it will pop up in the admin menu instead, so if you want you'll have to move it "sudo aptitude install gnome-app-install"
[23:59] <Diazz> vlt dont have the old conf :/
[23:59] <bezdomni> my abstract algebra professor used it as his lecture notes
[23:59] <bezdomni> on xubuntu, it worked pretty well for that class - I imagine it may be what you are looking for