[00:09] <InvaderZim> avihay: I know, but I won't install it, requires too many deps
[00:18] <avihay> kurosaki: you install it via the package manager. the dependencies take care of all the mess for you.
[00:25] <Absolom> Okay!~ So anyone having the same problem?
[00:28] <InvaderZim> Fresh lucid install. KDM won't log in. XDM does, but I want the default KDM. Help?
[00:30] <Absolom> Does anyone have any problems with the update lastnight I can get the network manager started, it says its disabled, does anyone know how to enable it?
[00:33] <Absolom_> Does anyone have any problems with the update lastnight I can get the network manager started, it says its disabled, does anyone know how to enable it?
[00:36] <Guest11496> How can I stop chromium making sounds when I close or srtar new tabs?
[00:37] <InvaderZim> it does?
[00:38] <Guest11496> Yes, weird no?
[00:39] <Guest11496> I noticed it started after installed the ubuntu-desktop.
[00:41] <Guest11496> I just noticed, when I use the shortcuts no sound is played, only when I use the mouse.
[00:45] <InvaderZim> and the sound only happens in chromium?
[00:45] <Guest11496> I will try firefox
[00:47] <Guest11496> In firefox there is no sound opening/closing tabs, but there is sound when trying to close, looks like some king of sound theme. I hate tehn since windows 95.
[00:47] <Absolom_> Does anyone have any problems with the update lastnight I can get the network manager started, it says its disabled, does anyone know how to enable it?
[00:50] <Guest11496> Abosolom, Knetworkmanger sucks, try the plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[00:51] <Guest11496> How can I disable sound themes of gnome inside kde?
[01:02] <sharkman> hi, i've juste installed kubuntu and can't have any sound, can someone help me ?
[01:07] <Guest11496> execute kmix in a terminal, maybe the sound is muted.
[01:11] <sharkman> nop, everything is ok in alsamixer..
[01:14] <sharkman> nobody know what to do ? I tried everything find on google.. :(
[01:20] <Guest11496> How come OK? Your chanels (PCM, master, everything) appears?
[01:21] <sharkman> everything apears and aren't mute
[01:21] <Guest11496> Are you tryiing to play some music then?
[01:22] <sharkman> yeah, but it's strange :  with amarok i can't get any sound, same for firefox&konqueror if i try a youtube vidéo, but  "Dragon PLayer" works perfectly
[01:23] <Guest11496> Then its not a sound problem, it is a app problem.
[01:23] <sharkman> oh, dragon player don't play sound anymore, sweet.
[01:23] <Guest11496> In kde systemseetings try to change your sound settings
[01:24] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:25] <sharkman> what to change ?
[01:25] <Typos_King> sharkman:    I've had the same issue, but seems to be a driver version matter for my player, in this case Xine-ui, whenever I loaded, and play a dvd, it plays fine and all, however, any app started after xine-ui loaded, has sound issues, I simply close it, restart the app and works :)
[01:26] <sharkman> when i try to test my soundcart, it doesn't work, i don't heard anything
[01:26] <Guest11496> In kde systemseetings computer administration, multimedia, try to use pulseaudio in everything
[01:26] <sharkman> Typos_King: i restarted kubuntu 4 times, re-installed all drivers, it doesn't work..
[01:27] <Typos_King> so, you have no sound at all?
[01:27] <sharkman> no sound at all yeah
[01:28] <sharkman> sometimes "dragon player" works but 5mn laters, nothing work
[01:29] <Typos_King> ... I see
[01:30] <yc1494> if i choose the dual boot option for installing ubuntu, will i loose everything on my hard drive?
[01:30] <Typos_King> then all I can think of is drivers...., what about installing the linux-backport-modules? maybe there's a fix for your hardware
[01:35] <sharkman> im going to be crazy, now amarok pley my music on my headset, and konquor on my computer
[01:42] <sharkman> my firefox refuse to open, because that "firefox is already running" how to stop the first session ?
[01:47] <cebxan> killall firefox?
[01:48] <sharkman> i just wana stop firefox process without having to restart my computer
[01:48] <sharkman> (on windows i usually use ctrl+alt+suppr)
[01:48] <sharkman> but it's my first time on linux..
[01:49] <darkdelusions> sharkman: you can open a terminal
[01:49] <darkdelusions> and type pkill firefox
[01:49] <darkdelusions> pkill = process kill
[01:49] <sharkman> works, thank you !
[01:49] <issadle> how do I remove OpenOffice.org?
[01:50] <issadle> I rather like Koffice much better
[01:51] <issadle> like even though its old I like it better than OOo
[02:10] <buntfalke> hi
[02:10] <buntfalke> i've just pressed the "minimize" button of a 10.4 installation window - now it's gone - how to get it back? :-)
[02:10] <buntfalke> alt-tab says "no windows"
[02:12] <buntfalke> ah - got it. started a plasm-desktop from tty1
[02:29] <Kraken> Very quiet in here!
[02:33] <Kraken> I have an IBM T30 laptop with Kubuntu loaded....problem is the default display driver is all messed up (bar at bottom of screen is all scrambled). Is there a way to force it to redetect the video, or better yet a shortcut key combo to open the web browser so I can download the correct ATI driver? I cant see anything (since the bar is screwed up) to open the browser.
[02:36] <ZooMw0w> Всем привет
[03:00] <delik> salve
[03:00] <tim> I just tried puppy linux over the weekend and it was great for browsing the web, except I had trouble with some of my wireless NIC
[03:01] <delik> scusate c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[03:01] <tim> are there any other Linux versions similar to it that are just as cool?
[03:29] <pair0doc> anyone else here running 10.04 with qemu-kvm and ksm disabled?
[03:51] <roberto_> hi -- I'm trying to get the compose key to work with Konversation. this app is the one app I use from kde :) I followed the isntructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComposeKey -- except not the kde system settings part because I dont have the whole kde wm installed.
[03:51] <roberto_> now not only do I not get the compose key, but my dead keys aren't dead any more :P ´a would have come out as á in gedit
[03:54] <roberto_> only in konversation is this the problem, the configuration worked for every other app on my system
[04:13]  * ZachK_ waves
[04:40] <bawww> what are some media players that play webm?
[04:43] <ZachK_> bawww: i'd look at VLC
[04:43] <Zerb_Riss> is there a way to make VLC respect your Phonon settings?
[04:43] <ZachK_> Zerb_Riss: Phonon?
[04:44] <Zerb_Riss> yeah
[04:44] <Zerb_Riss> the settings in System Settings->Multimedia
[04:45] <ZachK_> Zerb_Riss: are you trying to make it be a constant effect for lack of a better word?
[04:45] <bawww> ZachK_: their repos haven't been up to date since intrepid, :[
[04:45] <ZachK_> ok
[04:45] <Zerb_Riss> no, I just want all of my applications to use my preferred sound device
[04:45] <Zerb_Riss> instead of whichever one it feels like using
[04:45] <Zerb_Riss> :)
[04:45] <ZachK_> Zerb_Riss: wouldn't that be a sound settings option?
[04:46] <Zerb_Riss> that's what is in System Settings->Multimedia
[04:46] <ZachK_> Zerb_Riss: I'm sorry but I don't use KDE so much as Gnome
[04:46] <Zerb_Riss> preferred sound device
[04:46] <Zerb_Riss> oh
[04:46] <ZachK_> Zerb_Riss: but I can research it for ya
[04:46] <ZachK_> that's why im here
[04:47] <Zerb_Riss> interesting
[04:47] <Zerb_Riss> there is a vlc backend for phonon
[04:48] <ZachK_> try that then
[05:28] <bawww> kl;;;][[]2]'[l
[05:44] <odhinn> Hello
[05:44] <ZachK_> odhinn: HI!
[05:45] <odhinn> can anyone tell me how to remove the Gnome meta-package from an installation of Ubuntu 10.04 after installing KDE?
[05:46] <DarthFrog> odhinn: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <ZachK_> DarthFrog: i don't think so..you sure?
[05:46] <odhinn> that removes very little....tried it
[05:46] <DarthFrog> ZachK_: It will remove the meta package, as he asked.
[05:47] <DarthFrog> It won't actually do anything, though. :-)
[05:47] <odhinn> hence my dilemma
[05:47] <odhinn> would it just be easier to backup and do a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[05:47] <DarthFrog> odhinn: Do you want to remove GNOME itself?  The meta package is just a dependency installer.
[05:47] <ZachK_> odhinn: do you prefer Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[05:48] <odhinn> yes, to both questions
[05:48] <ZachK_> odhinn: then I'd just backup your pertinent data and then do an Install of Kubuntu itself if that's what you like
[05:48] <DarthFrog> http://superuser.com/questions/28781/how-to-remove-the-ubuntu-gnome-desktop-after-making-the-switch-to-kde
[05:48] <ZachK_> that way you just have the Kubuntu stuff...
[05:49] <ZachK_> but that's me
[05:49] <DarthFrog> Aha, this is it:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:50] <DarthFrog> It's specifically for Lucid.
[05:50] <odhinn> lol....I tried that psychocats one, DarthFrog, but it drops an error and stops on me everytime....
[05:50] <DarthFrog> What error?
[05:51] <odhinn> I think I'll just wait a few days, backup, and do a fresh Kubuntu install...
[05:51] <odhinn> gimme a few seconds, and I'll grab the error message for ya
[05:52] <odhinn> do you want it pasted in here, or privately, DarthFrog?
[05:53] <DarthFrog> If it's short, just paste it here.
[05:53] <odhinn> it's a bit lengthy
[05:53] <DarthFrog> Pastebin
[05:54] <odhinn> ok, but you'll have to tell me how to use it, I haven't figured it out yet
[05:54] <DarthFrog> !pastebin
[05:55] <odhinn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/438655/
[05:56] <odhinn> I copy/pasted from the line immediately after entering my pswd for the sudo
[05:57] <DarthFrog> Remove the packages that aren't installed from the apt-get remove line.
[05:57] <odhinn> is that all that is wrong?
[05:58] <DarthFrog> No.
[05:58] <DarthFrog> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <DarthFrog> Then do the remove again.
[05:58] <DarthFrog> Or do it first.
[05:59] <odhinn> ok...thank you very much
[05:59] <DarthFrog> Have fun.,
[06:00] <odhinn> I'll try....the worst day of wrestling with Linux is better than the best day of pulling one's hair out over Winblows!
[06:25] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[06:44] <chull> i need help with a printer. computer claims it can't see it?!
[06:49] <DarthFrog> !printer
[07:08] <ZachK_> hello buntfalke
[07:11] <Enzoplex> I have built my own home server to keep all of my DVDs as ISO. What is the best method for viewing the mounted ISO? Kaffeine used to play the ISO with menus and all, but it hasn't recently.
[07:13] <ZachK_> Enzoplex: hmm
[07:14] <moetunes> !iso
[07:14] <DarthFrog> Enzoplex: Have you ever looked at Mythbunut (MythTV)?  It will play ISOs.
[07:14] <Enzoplex> For the time being, it plays on my server itself. I will setup a client later that will remote mount via sshfs
[07:14] <RandPaul> I have a good question regarding the legality of certain software messages
[07:15] <Enzoplex> !ask
[07:15] <DarthFrog> Also, AcetonISO will mount and play ISOs.
[07:16] <moetunes> RandPaul: you were kicked from #ubuntu for your racist remarks - i hope you won't continue them here
[07:16] <Enzoplex> DarthFrog: I have thought about using MythTV, but I am just running something internal to my own home.
[07:17] <ZachK_> moetunes: hey man..you don't have to bring stuff like that up unless it happens again
[07:17] <moetunes> k
[07:17] <DarthFrog> Enzoplex: I don't see how that's an argument against MythTV.
[07:17] <ZachK_> moetunes: nice to meet ya btw
[07:18] <moetunes> heh hello ZachK_ :]
[07:19] <Enzoplex> DarthFrog: It's not. I am using Kubuntu for the server so I can have an interface to create the ISOs of the movies that I buy.
[07:19] <Enzoplex> DarthFrog: I'm actually on the server right now
[07:38] <bawww> does anyone know of any ffmpeg guides that go into detail explaining each option?
[07:39] <moetunes> bawww: I'd like that that too - haven't been able to find anything so far
[07:40] <bawww> moetunes: glad i'm not the only one
[07:40] <moetunes> heh :]
[07:43] <moetunes> after a few years playing with it i use the defaults mostly except for gop -dc and -bf whatever they are bawww
[07:44] <tsimpson> bawww: besides "man ffmpeg"?
[07:44] <DarthFrog> info ffmpeg :-)
[07:45] <moetunes> neither explain the options available - they only list them...
[07:45] <bawww> moetunes: yeah
[07:45] <bawww> moetunes: we need better documentation
[07:46] <DarthFrog> Ah, you want "The Dummy's Guide To ffmpeg". :-)
[07:46] <moetunes> bawww: some documentation on the options would make using it so much more beneficial imo
[07:47] <moetunes> quote - -me method       set motion estimation method to method. Available methods are (from lower to best quality):
[07:48] <moetunes> what are the methods?
[07:48] <bawww> DarthFrog: a more detailed guide/book is very much needed
[07:48] <bawww> DarthFrog: some of the options just says it's the option....
[07:51] <RandPaul> Can I rebrand kubuntu
[07:51] <RandPaul> as Mexisoft
[07:51] <RandPaul> sell it in Mexico
[07:51] <RandPaul> but have a disclaimer saying that negroes de mierda can't use it or receive support?
[07:51] <DarthFrog> Would you consider that ethical?
[07:51] <RandPaul> yes
[07:51] <RandPaul> and not tell people that it is linux
[07:51] <RandPaul> most in mexico have never seen linux
[07:52] <RandPaul> it would come preloaded with amsn
[07:52] <RandPaul> adobe and such
[07:52] <RandPaul> so that
[07:52] <FloodBotK3> RandPaul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <DarthFrog> I don't think the rest of us would consider it to be ethical.
[07:52] <RandPaul> why not?
[07:52] <RandPaul> it would expose people to linux
[07:53] <RandPaul> tons of people down here can't update their windows effectively
[07:53] <RandPaul> because of the genuine advantage thing.........  give them a "Mexican OS"
[07:53] <RandPaul> and only 15 bucks, they have genuine software
[07:53] <ZachK_> RandPaul: it goes against the grain of what Ubuntu is
[07:53] <RandPaul> when it catches on
[07:53] <RandPaul> then come out and admit that it is linux, and now they know how to use it
[07:54] <RandPaul> most here have never seen linux, but if you mention it they say they have hear dthat it is hard to use
[07:54] <RandPaul> so this is to schnooker people into using it and getting cash at the same time
[07:54] <Enzoplex> DarthFrog: I was checking out some videos on YouTube for the usage and functionality for Mythbuntu... such disappointing results.
[07:55] <Enzoplex> DarthFrog: Good thing I'm not basing them off those video results.
[07:55] <RandPaul> especially in a nation where most people don't use the computer for much else
[07:55] <RandPaul> than myspace facebook or chat
[07:55] <RandPaul> or downloading songs
[07:56] <ZachK_> RandPaul: it's not what ubuntu is about
[07:56] <tsimpson> you can sell Ubuntu or Kubuntu, but you also must make the source code available to anyone on request
[07:56] <ZachK_> it's supposed to be free...
[07:56] <RandPaul> I would change it to "MexiSoft"
[07:56] <moetunes> RandPaul: do you have a kubuntu support issue or solution?
[07:56] <RandPaul> of course it would be available
[07:56] <RandPaul> but most people here don't know about opensource
[07:56] <RandPaul> yes
[07:56] <ZachK_> RandPaul: ok then ask it
[07:56] <moetunes> this is ot
[07:57] <ZachK_> RandPaul: don't go on and on about something that we wouldn't support
[07:58] <RandPaul> I would put on the login this disclaimer "El uso de este sistema operativo por los negros es estrictamente prohibido.  Ningun mayate o negro de mierda recibirá soporte técnico."  in English "The use of this os by niggers is prohibited.  Darkies will be refused technical support."
[07:58] <moetunes> !ops
[07:58] <tsimpson> RandPaul: join #ubuntu-mx to discuss it
[07:58] <tsimpson> unless you want to say it like that
[07:58] <tsimpson> then
[07:58] <moetunes> tsimpson: thnx
[07:59] <RandPaul> why the ban?
[07:59] <jussi> RandPaul: racism isnt allowed here.
[07:59] <RandPaul> why is it unethical to remove the word kubuntu and replace it with mexisoft and sell it in Mexico?
[07:59] <jussi> !coc | RandPaul
[07:59] <RandPaul> you obviously have never had to deal with them before
[07:59] <RandPaul> it is hard
[07:59] <tsimpson> RandPaul: stop it
[07:59] <RandPaul> it is a customer service nightmare
[08:00] <moetunes> pls just fully boot him
[08:00] <mase_wk> RandPaul: it doesn't matter what your opinions are, you are free to have them, just not to voice them in this particular channel
[08:00] <RandPaul> Negro IQ  80    Human IQ 100
[08:01] <ZachK_> i'd have k-lined him but that's me
[08:01] <moetunes> that's #ubuntu and #kubuntu he's done that in
[08:01] <mase_wk> foolish people
[08:01] <jussi> please move on
[08:01] <moetunes> k
[08:01] <moetunes> what were we taliking about...
[08:02] <tsimpson> ffmpeg
[08:02] <tsimpson> and how in the world are you supposed to figure out how to use it
[08:02] <tsimpson> discuss
[08:03] <bawww> man the vp8 is pretty awesome codec for webm
[08:03] <bawww> it looks the same as h264
[08:03] <mase_wk> yeh its pretty decent
[08:04] <mase_wk> just need people to adopt a free(r) format now
[08:04] <bawww> looks like web video will be pretty open
[08:04] <mase_wk> yeh hopefully, still a long ways to go though
[08:04] <mase_wk> the whole vp8 in flash should be good though
[08:05] <mase_wk> will at least let you encode once and  use flash as a fall back
[08:05] <bawww> yeah, that should help in the transition
[08:05] <bawww> remember, but we want to get rid of flash
[08:05] <mase_wk> well browsers like IE6-8 aren't going away any time soon and they wont' ever support (x)html
[08:05] <mase_wk> 5
[08:07] <bawww> mase_wk: damn those users
[08:08] <bawww> i think firefox is gonna gobble up more market share
[08:08] <mase_wk> hopefully
[08:09] <mase_wk> i don't think choice is a bad thing but having a free browser supporting the latest open standards does help
[08:09] <bawww> since the majority of the browsers are going with it, the future is set
[08:09] <mase_wk> well yeh, but the majority of browsers still unfortunately doesn't mean a majority of the users.
[08:10] <mase_wk> there are still alot of people running firefox 3 and IE (all variants )
[08:10] <bawww> lol let them become disconnected!
[08:10] <mase_wk> well that is an option but not one i think will be widely implemented
[08:10] <mase_wk> although we have now dropped support for IE 6'
[08:11] <bawww> doesn't sites like youtube give you a no IE 6 message already?
[08:11] <tsimpson> most of xhtml can be rendered quite well as html, as long as you don't include the <?xml ...?> part
[08:12] <bawww> maybe the technicians and developers can get together to start a browser switching campaign for clueless IE 6 users
[08:12] <tsimpson> it's up to MS to maintain their broken browsers, no one else can do anything about it
[08:12] <mase_wk> tsimpson: not really, if you send the correct xhtml+xml IE 6 will not render it as html
[08:13] <tsimpson> mase_wk: but if you send it as text/html, it should
[08:13] <mase_wk> you can send it without the correct headers, but then its technically not xhtml
[08:13] <tsimpson> with xhtml 1.0 you can send it as html anyway, not 1.1
[08:14] <mase_wk> the more correct way to do it , is to use xslt to transform to sgml to those that request tag soup
[08:14] <tsimpson> as long as you have the right doctype and possibly a meta tag, it should work
[08:14] <mase_wk> regardless, its still not going to support the video element
[08:15] <tsimpson> well sucks to use IE
[08:15] <mase_wk> indeed
[08:22] <bawww> is handbrake a GTK application ?
[08:23] <mase_wk> i believe so
[08:23] <Elec2010> hi, my kubuntu does not recognize my pendrive. any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/438495/
[08:23] <mase_wk> it will run fine under kubuntu though
[08:23] <Elec2010> thanks in advance
[08:24] <mase_wk> Elec2010: does that usb port function correctly with other devices ?
[08:24] <mase_wk> usually even if its not supported /recognised its at least able to enumerate the device
[08:30] <Elec2010> yes, it was formatted in winxp as fat32
[08:30] <Elec2010> maybe i am noob, just installed kubuntu one week ago, i am new to linux
[08:33] <mase_wk> Elec2010: so what happens if you plug it into a  different port ? same thing ? ie plug in the device and open up a konsole and type 'dmesg'
[08:33] <mase_wk> in theory it should justt be visible in your device monitor
[08:33] <mase_wk> or in dolphin
[08:45] <bawww> i'm having trouble encoding a raw yuv file into x264 codec with ffmpeg, for some reason i can't set the correct framrate
[08:46] <bawww> is there like a special way to deal with raw files?
[08:50] <moetunes> bawww: bottom of   man ffmpeg   it gives an example of using raw - seen it?
[08:50] <moetunes> not with x264 tho sorry bawww
[08:51] <moetunes> bawww: using the kubuntu compiled ffmpeg?
[08:51] <moetunes> or ubuntu compiled?
[08:52] <bawww> moetunes: i was using the custom ffmpeg, the one you recommended
[08:52] <bawww> it's got the latest vp8 codec libraries
[08:52] <moetunes> bawww: I don't recall recommending anything...
[08:52] <bawww> btw kden works with it
[08:52] <bawww> kdenlive*
[08:53] <bawww> moetunes: nm then, wrong person?
[08:53] <moetunes> it might have been mase_wk bawww
[08:55] <moetunes> bawww: my point was that sometimes ubuntu doesn't compile apps with all options enabled - that might have been the issue - but since you're using a custom ffmpeg it doesn't matter
[08:57] <bawww> moetunes: yeah, i seem to have all the codecs i want enabled
[09:17] <apparle> hi guys
[09:20] <bawww> apparle: hello
[09:21] <apparle> what's up... no activity ...
[09:21] <phoenix_> anyone there
[09:22] <ZachK_> i'm here
[09:22]  * ZachK_ is active
[09:22] <ZachK_> lol
[09:22]  * ZachK_ does a dance
[09:22] <FloodBotK1> ZachK_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <ZachK_> see? Activity
[09:45] <bawww> is phonon like gstreamer?
[09:48] <phoenix_> ZachK_: can you help me to configure pulse audio
[09:48] <ZachK_> phoenix_: no prob
[09:48] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i'll try anyway
[09:49] <ZachK_> phoenix_: so what problem(s) are you having?
[09:49] <phoenix_> ZachK_: my soundcard is creative sb live 24 bit, i want the redirect the bass to the subwoofer when playing mp3 files
[09:50] <ZachK_> phoenix_: ok..hmmm
[09:50] <ZachK_> phoenix_: sound preferences?
[09:50] <phoenix_> i installed pulse audio yesterday
[09:51] <phoenix_> ZachK_: sound preferences?
[09:51] <ZachK_> phoenix_: you're using kde i take it?
[09:51] <phoenix_> ZachK_:  ya kde 4
[09:52] <ZachK_> phoenix_: ok I'm using Ubuntu...let me switch to my KDE desktop...
[09:52] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i'll be right back
[09:52] <phoenix_> ZachK_: ok
[09:57] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i'm back
[09:57] <phoenix_> ZachK_: welcome
[09:57] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i use ubuntu along with a kde environment...
[09:57] <phoenix_> ZachK_: oh
[09:57] <ZachK_> yeah...it's not dualbooting but it's two different desktop gui's
[09:58] <ZachK_> phoenix_: ok sound configurations...hmm
[10:00] <ZachK_> phoenix_: go to the Menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Multimedia
[10:00] <phoenix_> ZachK_: should i open sound configurations
[10:00] <phoenix_> ZachK_: donne
[10:00] <phoenix_> done
[10:00] <phoenix_> ZachK_: open multimedia
[10:01] <ZachK_> ok and you should be able to configure your playback devices there to what you want...
[10:01] <phoenix_> i want to redirect bass to my subwoofer
[10:01] <ZachK_> well try it there...
[10:03] <phoenix_> ZachK_: i know this settings, but it is not possible to set it there
[10:03] <ZachK_> phoenix_: ok...
[10:03] <ZachK_> let me research
[10:03]  * ZachK_ has gotta re-download a full ISO image now...dangit
[10:04] <phoenix_> ZachK_: i am going to restart my computer . can you wait?
[10:04] <ZachK_> phoenix_: that's fine
[10:04] <phoenix_> ZachK_: thank you
[10:10] <phoenix_> ZachK_: i am back
[10:11] <ZachK_> phoenix_: cool
[10:12] <phoenix_> ZachK_: finished your research?
[10:12] <ZachK_> phoenix_: not yet
[10:13] <ZachK_> phoenix_: so what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:13] <phoenix_> ZachK_: have you used 5.1 surround sound
[10:14] <ZachK_> nope
[10:14] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i really don't use my speakers much anyway..the ones i have are quite small
[10:14] <phoenix_> ZachK_: then it is very hard to understand my problem
[10:14] <ZachK_> and old lol
[10:14] <ZachK_> phoenix_: hey don't give up yet
[10:15] <ZachK_> phoenix_: if you feel that i can't then ok
[10:16] <phoenix_> ZachK_: i have been trying to solve this problemn for the past 1 week and tried all the thing that i could possibly find using google, no success
[10:16] <ZachK_> phoenix_: ok doesn't mean it can't be done
[10:17] <ZachK_> phoenix_: i tried to load PHP Apache2 and Firebird RDBMS on an Ubuntu system..no solutions anywhere for it...i started the documentation for it as nobody knows how..maybe you can do the same
[10:17] <phoenix_> ZachK_: thats is why i am still searching for a solution
[10:22] <phoenix_> ZachK_: i am trying a configuration
[10:23] <ZachK_> roger
[10:55] <Guest87296> ya kelkun ?
[11:12] <IIVQ> hello
[11:12] <IIVQ> how do I en/disable "compiz" via system settings?
[11:16] <apparle> IIVQ: by compiz if you mean desktop effects then, in kubuntu it is called kwin
[11:16] <IIVQ> ok
[11:16] <IIVQ> but how do you enable/disable it?
[11:16] <apparle> IIVQ: goto system settings
[11:17] <IIVQ> that is, how do I see whether it's enabled?
[11:17] <apparle> IIVQ: then its somewhere ther..... mostly 2nd icon. I can't remember
[11:17] <IIVQ> ok, but it's called "kwin"?
[11:17] <IIVQ> I'm having this problem http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787&page=20
[11:18] <IIVQ> and changed something in appearance but don't know what anymore so I might have solved it
[11:18] <IIVQ> lots of ppl talking about compix
[11:18] <IIVQ> *piz
[11:20] <IIVQ> apparle, is it desktop effects -> enable desktop effects?
[11:21] <apparle> IIVQ: yup
[11:21] <ahmad_> Hi all, how to set JAVA_HOME env. var.? my current JAVA_HOME referes to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun, despite that my jdk version is 6 and installed in path /usr/lib/jvm/, I have added 'JAVA_HOME = /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun' to each of the following files '/<home-folder>/.bashrc', '/<home-folder>/.bash_profile', '/etc/profile', and '/etc/bash.bashrc, and still my JAVA_HOME points to the old path, what suggessions? Thanks
[11:22] <apparle> IIVQ: actually in Ubuntu/Gnome the window manager is compiz. But in kubuntu the window manager is kwin
[11:22] <Dekans> ahmad_: put it in /etc/environment
[11:23] <Dekans> ahmad_: or add the command 'export' just before 'JAVA_HOME' in your .bashrc
[11:23] <ahmad_> Deknas: Thanks, I will try it
[11:23] <apparle> ahmad_: or you could change the line in .bashrc to "export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun"" without the outer quotes
[11:23] <IIVQ> ah ok, so there's no compiz in kubuntu?
[11:23] <Dekans> I prefer JAVA_HOME='...' in /etc/environment
[11:23] <apparle> ahmad_: by the way how did you install java
[11:24] <apparle> IIVQ: you can install compiz if you want
[11:24] <ahmad_> apparle: I have installed java using apt-get
[11:25] <apparle> ahmad_: which version of kubuntu
[11:26] <IIVQ> apparle, please no!
[11:26] <ahmad_> apparle: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[11:27] <apparle> IIVQ: what happened...
[11:27] <apparle> ahmad_: and how did you install jdk... from partner repos or openjdk
[11:28] <ahmad_> apparle: not, not openjdk, from partner repository.
[11:28] <IIVQ> apparle, nothing, I just have the "freeze bug" and many people associate it with compiz, that's one
[11:28] <IIVQ> and two, no 3d turny effects for me - that's ugly
[11:29] <apparle> IIVQ: what's the bug and which graphics unit.... maybe I could help
[11:29] <apparle> ahmad_: then that should never have happened.... did you install JDK 1.5 also
[11:30] <ahmad_> apparle: no the first and only jdk I have is jdk1.6.0_20
[11:31] <apparle> ahmad_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <jdk package name>" if that also doesn't do the trick it might be a bug worth reporting
[11:31] <IIVQ> apparle, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9351113#post9351113
[11:31] <IIVQ> I did have a problem with a freezing desktop
[11:31] <IIVQ> no response, mouse pointer would move but couldn't click, type
[11:31] <ahmad_> apparle: ok, I will try it
[11:32] <apparle> IIVQ: which graphics card/processor
[11:32] <IIVQ> however alt-sysreq did work
[11:32] <IIVQ> and a lot of ppl have it
[11:33] <IIVQ> apparle, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9332821&postcount=165 for my specs
[11:33] <apparle> IIVQ: no idea about msi
[11:34] <apparle> IIVQ: I also see lots of corruption in graphics but mine does not freeze.... have you tried disabling KMZ
[11:34] <apparle> IIVQ: I also see lots of corruption in graphics but mine does not freeze.... have you tried disabling KMS
[11:35] <IIVQ> KMZ/KMS? what's that?
[11:35] <IIVQ> appearently it's not a kubuntu LL problem
[11:35] <IIVQ> people report it in kubuntu and ubuntu and also in 8 and 9 versions
[11:37] <apparle> IIVQ: you seem unaware of KMS.... its kernel mode setting... google it
[11:37] <apparle> !kms
[11:44] <ahmad_> apparle: I tryed command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure sun-java6-jdk", and tryed to write JAVA_HOME in /etc/environment, both useless, my JAVA_HOME still with old value!
[11:45] <apparle> ahmad_: when you did dpkg-reconfigure didn't you get update-alternatives etc etc?
[11:46] <ahmad_> apparle: no, never
[11:47] <apparle> ahmad_: If you don't mind try, purging it. and then installing it again
[11:49] <ahmad_> apparle: you mean uninstall my jdk and install it again?
[11:50] <IIVQ> ah thx
[11:50] <apparle> ahmad_: ya.. use "sudo apt-get purge sun-java6-jdk"
[11:50] <IIVQ> no I haven't tried disabling KMS
[11:50] <IIVQ> however, so far it seems to b working, thx apparle for help so far
[11:51] <apparle> ahmad_: after it is removed remove its dependencies with this "sudo apt-get autoclean" and then try again
[11:55] <ahmad_> apparle: ok, I will try.
[11:57] <apparle> ahmad_: also... this is not a kubuntu/kde specific problem so you can try for help in #ubuntu also
[11:58] <ahmad_> apparle: ok, tahnk you very much apparle, for you help.
[11:58] <apparle> ahmad_: I am still wondering
[11:58] <apparle> ahmad_: how come export command didn't work
[12:00] <ahmad_> apparle: I am an experienced Java developer, but very new with linux, I am establishing a new software company in egypt, and plan to make a good linux infrastructure.
[12:00] <apparle> ahmad_: oh
[12:01] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have installed virtual box but i cant find it on the kmenue
[12:01] <eagles0513875> menu
[12:01] <apparle> ahmad_: do one thing
[12:01] <apparle> ahmad_: use this command in konsole
[12:01] <ahmad_> apparle: as you know, the most popular OS in middle east is windows
[12:01] <apparle> ahmad_: export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun"
[12:02] <apparle> ahmad_: immediately after that do this "env|grep JAVA_HOME"
[12:02] <apparle> ahmad_: tell me what do you get
[12:02] <ahmad_> apparle: ok I will do
[12:03] <apparle> eagles0513875: you cannot find stuff immediately on kmenu... wait for sometime... say 5 minutes. or use klauncher by pressing Alt+F2
[12:03] <eagles0513875> apparle: not showing up with alt f2 and its been more then 5 min
[12:03] <ahmad_> apparle: my output is "JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun"
[12:04] <ahmad_> apparle: I want to know what was the problem?
[12:04] <ahmad_> apparle: ...........if you do not mind?
[12:04] <apparle> eagles0513875: kill the klauncher process from ksysmonitor and restart it
[12:04] <apparle> ahmad_: so there you go... it is set. how did you try to set it earlier...
[12:05] <apparle> ahmad_: the prolem is not fixed right now coz this is temporary and is limited to that konsole window
[12:05] <ahmad_> apparle:  I have added 'JAVA_HOME = /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun' to each of the following files '/<home-folder>/.bashrc', '/<home-folder>/.bash_profile', '/etc/profile', and '/etc/bash.bashrc'
[12:05] <eagles0513875> apparle: i kill it and it auto respawns
[12:06] <apparle> eagles0513875: what.... after you kill it klauncher auto respawns..? that never happens with me
[12:06] <apparle> ahmad_: remove all that..
[12:06] <eagles0513875> apparle: well it does for me
[12:07] <ahmad_> apparle: ok
[12:07] <eagles0513875> i had to install kubuntu in quite a strange manner
[12:07] <apparle> eagles0513875: hwo did you do that
[12:07] <eagles0513875> apparle: im on a 2tb hdd and i was getting errors left right and center with kubuntu live cd net install alt install cd's
[12:07] <eagles0513875> so ended up using ubuntu server and then installing kubuntu-desktop meta package
[12:08] <apparle> !environment
[12:09] <apparle> ahmad_: it is old and might be incorrect but you will get a lot of information on environment variables in ubuntu/linux https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[12:09] <eagles0513875> apparle: was that bot query for me
[12:09] <apparle> eagles0513875: what kind of partition table do you have
[12:09] <apparle> eagles0513875: no
[12:09] <eagles0513875> gpt for the size of drive i have
[12:09] <eagles0513875> it was still gpt but there was something missing i think with the kernel
[12:10] <eagles0513875> apparle: are you a dev or something
[12:10] <ahmad_> apparle: ok thank you very much, apparle.
[12:10] <apparle> eagles0513875: nahh
[12:11] <eagles0513875> apparle: there is something small left out of the kubuntu kernel
[12:14] <apparle> eagles0513875: have you tried ubuntu ? I mean is this problem specific to kubutnu live cd or ubuntu also
[12:15] <apparle> eagles0513875: have you tried the alternate disk installation
[12:27] <roxy> is there anything i can do to automount a partition under kde?
[12:31] <apparle> !fstab | roxy
[12:31] <apparle> roxy: if you only have ntfs partitions then you can use the tool ntfs-config
[12:32] <roxy> apparle: yeah, i need to mount a ntfs partition indeed, thanks man.
[12:33] <apparle> !info ntfs-config | roxy
[12:35] <roxy> apparle:  is there something special to know to get this to work?
[12:35] <apparle> roxy: I myself never use that tool. I use fstab. But wait I'll give you a link
[12:36] <roxy> ok
[12:36] <apparle> roxy: here you go http://www.noob2geek.com/how-to/how-to-automount-ntfs-drives-in-ubuntu/
[12:41] <john> hi all
[12:41] <markit> does "composition" work with nouveau driver?
[12:41] <markit> ("desktop effects")
[12:45] <JuJuBee> Anybody have advice on how to get Blue Ray to play in lucid?  I just bought Avatar and have a nice full HD laptop.  Id like to watch it.
[12:49] <roxy> worked, thanks for this apparle!
[13:06] <u19809> HI all, I am looking for an application that can show a text scrolling right to left as a ticker ... ?
[13:07] <llutz> u19809: ticker - configurable text scroller
[13:08] <u19809> llutz : is that a GUI application ? I downloaded it but it looked as if it was console based
[13:08] <llutz> idk
[13:09] <u19809> llutz : ?
[13:09] <llutz> i don't know
[13:10] <u19809> Ah :)
[13:11] <llutz> u19809: run it inside a borderless term (aterm or whatever) and you have your GUI :)
[13:11] <u19809> I also found knewsticker but it is 4.4 and I cannot find source for it
[13:13] <JuJuBee> Anybody help me play a blue ray on my laptop?  I have full HD and want to watch Avatar, but seems lucid won't play it.
[13:13] <JuJuBee> Ive tried vlc but no go.  gxine wont work in lucid due to some bug
[13:22] <jazman> join #ubuntu
[13:22] <apparle> JuJuBee: what happens with vlc
[13:22] <apparle> JuJuBee: have you tried kaffeine
[13:26] <jazman> any one know of an easy way to fix a grub problem
[13:26] <apparle> jazman: SGD
[13:28] <jazman> just installed 10.4 and wehn i boot i get a grub_puts error
[13:28] <apparle> jazman: don't know... but try Super Grub Disk
[13:29] <jazman> i thought about it now i cant  get into win 7 not a great loss but some stuff like cames and my scanner i need win 4 all else i dont
[13:32] <JuJuBee> apparle: vlc give an error
[13:32] <JuJuBee> not tried kaffeine
[13:33] <jazman> kaffeine is good
[13:34] <JuJuBee> kaffeine says error reading from /dev/dvd  how to I set the device to read from?
[13:34] <apparle> JuJuBee: Its been long since I used it......
[13:34] <jazman> maybee u need css package from synaptic
[13:34] <apparle> JuJuBee: try pointing it to the location the blue ray is mounted
[13:35] <JuJuBee> where do I tell kaffeine this info?
[13:35] <apparle> JuJuBee: I assumed you had install libdvdcss
[13:35] <JuJuBee> it is mounted on /media/disk_name
[13:35] <apparle> JuJuBee: do you have it
[13:35] <JuJuBee> let me check
[13:35] <apparle> !dvd
[13:37] <apparle> JuJuBee: maybe this could help but it seems old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[13:37] <JuJuBee> I have restricted formats installed already
[13:38] <JuJuBee> Avatar is the movie and mounted as /media/RED_BIRD_2D_WW/
[13:38] <JuJuBee> How do I tell kaffeine not to use /dev/dvd ?
[13:39] <apparle> JuJuBee: somewhere in the settings look for it
[13:40] <apparle> JuJuBee: I don't remember whhere but I do remember seeing it
[13:40] <JuJuBee> There are only 2 settings to configure.  Short Skip Duration and Long skip duration.
[13:42] <apparle> JuJuBee: wait for 5 min I'll check
[13:42] <JuJuBee> k, thanks
[13:42] <JuJuBee> mount shows me /dev/sr0 on /media/RED_BIRD_2D_WW type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000)
[13:47] <apparle> JuJuBee: did you find anythign
[13:49] <apparle> JuJuBee: I am installing kaffeine
[13:49] <JuJuBee> no, but on Doom9 theBD+ encyrption don't know if kaffeine or vlc handles that anyway.
[13:49] <JuJuBee> looking into dvdfab
[13:50] <JuJuBee> wow, what happend to my last post?  Doom9 says avatar uses BD+ encryption...
[13:58] <Oxymoron> RAW partion => NTFS partition (WITHOUT data loss) - How do I do that?
[13:58] <bazhang> Oxymoron, try in ##windows
[13:58] <apparle> Oxymoron: RAW partition has data?
[13:59] <Hazamonzo> Hey folks. Why might i be missing the little icon in my taskbar that allows me to mount / unmount devicesLike USB external storange and such
[13:59] <Oxymoron> bazhang: Already did, but nobody answers
[13:59] <Hazamonzo> kde 10.04
[13:59] <Oxymoron> apparle: Yes it has.
[14:00] <Oxymoron> apparle: Reason its RAW is that I was need to abort moving process in Kpartitionmanager earlier
[14:01] <apparle> Oxymoron: ohh..... I recommend you recover data off that partition and reformat it
[14:01] <bazhang> if it still exists, which is extremely doubtful
[14:01] <Oxymoron> apparle: But when you move a partition, how does it do when its moved, it must ocnvert it, right?
[14:01] <Oxymoron> bazhang: It does exists, all WIndows Partition Managers finds it.
[14:02] <bazhang> this is from cancelling out in the middle of a resizing operation
[14:02] <apparle> Oxymoron: so why don't you recover it using windows partition managers
[14:02] <Oxymoron> bazhang: They say it contains data and Acronis Disk Directory Suite says its RAW NONE (NTFS, HPFS) partition, which means something between
[14:02] <bazhang> ubuntu wont be able to do this
[14:02] <bazhang> Oxymoron, go with windows tools
[14:03] <Oxymoron> bazhang: Yeah I am in Windows 7 now, FINALLY made it install on another partition ...
[14:03] <apparle> Oxymoron: since you are playing with NTFS its better to use tools from same people who made the fs
[14:04] <Oxymoron> bazhang: I just dont know which tools. I just want to restore the data and put it into a new ext4 partition, BUT its like 500 GB
[14:06] <apparle> JuJuBee: the setting I was talking of was in kaffeine for KDE3... it doesn't seem to be here yet
[14:07] <JuJuBee> apparle: K
[14:07] <JuJuBee> I have bigger issues with BD+ I think...
[14:09] <apparle> JuJuBee: also xine doesn't seems to take encryption easily... I suggest mplayer
[14:09] <apparle> JuJuBee: what error do you get in vlc
[14:15] <JuJuBee> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[14:20] <hrw> hi
[14:22] <bukayo> am looking at qtcreator right now and the explore examples is greyed out? qt4-demo is installed.  any idea?
[14:23] <bukayo> i don't see anywhere to tell qtcreator where they are
[14:23] <hrw> question I have: will lucid ppa follow packaging rules from maverick?
[14:26] <bukayo> hrw: it shud be
[14:27] <Oxymoron> Seems like Windows channel abandoned me ....
[14:29] <hrw> bukayo: I asked because added maverick repos (pinned as low priority) to lucid and packages conflicts each other
[14:30] <bukayo> hrw: of course they are for the most part
[14:30] <hrw> sure, and I am fine with it. just wanted to know packaging diffs
[14:31] <hrw> bukayo: I suspect properly that kubuntu ppa and lucid/maverick kde packages are done by same people?
[14:31] <bukayo> hrw: i think it's not pkg diff but more of versions used
[14:32] <hrw> ok
[14:35] <combunio> hi, can someone explain to me, how to configure wifi USB device in PC so I can be online in wireless way? :)
[14:36] <bukayo> anyone using qtcreator?
[14:38] <bukayo> why is the examples greyed out in exploring qtcreator when qt4-demo is installed?
[14:41] <apparle> guys I am trying to run kubuntu of a USB drive and short of space.... can you suggest anything I should do to clean up space
[14:43] <Oxymoron> Cool, with Windows NTFS handler, moving NTFS partitions goes in minutes and in libparted it take hours xD
[14:43] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: also quite offtopic (:
[14:44] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Depends ... libparted is a part of Kubuntu kind of :D
[14:44] <apparle> bukayo: I had install the package qt-sdk and I can see examples
[14:44] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: but has nothing to do with support
[14:45] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: THat also depends :P It could save people time and effort to know that ... ;)
[14:45] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Btw, what ext* should you recommend me if I am going to store data on it?
[14:45] <bukayo> apparle: thnkx..let me check that out..
[14:46] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: whichever you like, ext4 should be the fastest IIRC
[14:46] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: but ext3/ext2 has higher compatibility with different OSs
[14:46] <markit> hi, puts %x[ls -l] shows the result of a ls command, but what about if the command produces some error message? how can I "capture" it in ruby?
[14:47] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: ext4 can handle larger partition tables as well so I guess thats good.
[14:47] <markit> ehm, wrong channel :))
[14:47] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I have decided I will abandon Windows once and for all so it doesnt have to be compatible.
[14:48] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Just dont know if ext4 is stable enough, is it?
[14:49] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I dont want anymore data loss or incompatibility inside Linux
[14:49] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: it's stable
[14:50] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Good :)
[14:50] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: THen I wonder, how does ext4 work on SSD drives?
[14:51] <bukayo> apparle: won't install bec  libqt4-phonon-dev: Depends: libphonon-dev (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5) but 4:4.7.0really4.4.1-0ubuntu3
[14:52] <Oxymoron> Hmm read spead 25 MB/S and write speed 70 MB/S :S
[14:52] <Oxymoron> *speed
[14:53] <bukayo> apparle: cud not understand why make 4.4.1 look like 4.4.7?
[14:53] <apparle> bukayo: don't know
[14:54] <Tm_T> bukayo: 4.7 is qt version, 4.4.1 is phonon version, and they are now from separate sources
[14:55] <uberamd> hey all
[14:55] <uberamd> has anyone here had any issues with kubuntu's notification area not respecting the themes colors for its buttons?
[14:56] <bukayo> Tm_T: so haw can i install qt-sdk?
[14:57] <bukayo> Tm_T: it req libqt4-phonon-dev which req libphonon-dev but  libqt4-phonon-dev: Depends: libphonon-dev (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5) but 4:4.7.0really4.4.1-0ubuntu3
[14:59] <Oxymoron> Btw, does anyone know if QT team solved the video output problem in v4.7?
[14:59] <Ep5iloN> Oxymoron: release notes should know :)
[15:00] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: On QT website?
[15:00] <Ep5iloN> Oxymoron: could be .)
[15:02] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: I cannot found it on their website, I find release notes but not any changes list
[15:04] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: But it seems it provide a new multimedia API so I guess it COULD be solved by the new API :P
[15:05] <Ep5iloN> Oxymoron: have a try
[15:06] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: I have tested the beta, but I dont think they have implemented it there yet.
[15:07] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: The problem is the combination of OpenGL, Cairo Dock and QT ... transparent video rendering xD
[15:07] <Ep5iloN> Oxymoron: I see.. another way to ask support..
[15:07] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: Separatly all of them work
[15:08] <Ep5iloN> or try to find you issue here - http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa
[15:08] <bukayo> Tm_T: i cud rebuild the pkgs but is the 4.7really4.4.1 shud have been 4.7really4.6.2?
[15:08] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: Found some bug reports of it, but seems to be ignored by QT team, CD team says its not them and its a fix with ARGB ...
[15:08] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: Issue already found long time ago, but nobody cares
[15:09] <bukayo> Tm_T: lucid is at v4.6.2..why is maverick at v4.4.1?
[15:09] <Ep5iloN> Oxymoron: quite sad then...
[15:09] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: Same as nobody cares about ISO-8859-1 support for Dolphin ... because UTF-8 should be the ONLY one even if Crappy Windows uses other.
[15:10] <Ep5iloN> :)
[15:11] <Oxymoron> Ep5iloN: I agree partly, but then Windows users maybe need iso-encoding someitmes even in Kubuntu. Linux itself supports iso I heard, but DOlphin havent it implemented
[15:13] <tsimpson> UTF-8 can represent everything in the latin-1 alphabet
[15:14] <Oxymoron> tsimpson: Yes, a iso => utf - converter could be in place ;) If iso-encoded files, then convert them. Thats what I do in my web framework
[15:14] <mouser--> Hi, I'm running 10.04 and am having a problem with subtitle editor.  It's failing to open videos or play waveforms.  It gives an error: "Could not initialise xv output."  I've installed every codec I can find, but I can't get rid of the error, and have been unable to find anything on the forums.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[15:15] <Oxymoron> tsimpson: Kate have support for iso, Kdevelop as well, well hehe bort are part of katepart xD
[15:16] <tsimpson> Oxymoron: are you on about the file names then?
[15:16] <Oxymoron> tsimpson: Both filenames and content of the files, I think I mean :P
[15:18] <jcgs> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to change the icon for a file type?
[15:18] <uberamd> mouser--: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+question/7373
[15:18] <jcgs> whenever i try to change one, the system seems to be ignoring me :(
[15:18] <tsimpson> Oxymoron: on a FAT/NTFS partition?
[15:19] <Oxymoron> tsimpson: Both FAT/NTFS and EXT*
[15:19] <Originooo>  hey. do kdenlive have problems with OGV? i also tried to convert to avi with ffmpeg but the video ist damaged. i can play the original ogv file created by recordmydesktop with every player i have installed :/
[15:21] <mouser--> uberamd: Thanks.  I'll try the gstreamer preferences, and change it from xv, I guess.
[15:24] <AlexLuya> Hello,How can I get ibus support application installed by myself?
[15:24] <NIGMA> what is this
[15:24] <NIGMA> konversation --help
[15:25] <NIGMA> cool another app that i don't know how to use
[15:25] <AlexLuya> Currently,ibus just support app that come with kubuntu,any new app ,such as chrom,that install by myself cann't be supported
[15:25] <AlexLuya> sorry,I mean Google Chrome
[15:26] <AlexLuya> installed from deb pakage
[15:28] <mouser--> uberamd: I changed the gstreamer preferences to "no xv", it tests fine in the preferences, but it still says "could not initalise xv output" in the program, even after a reboot.  I'm using virtualbox if that makes a difference.
[15:29] <uberamd> NIGMA: does an aptitude install ibus not work?
[15:35] <jcgs> uberamd: i think that answer was supposed to go to AlexLuya :)
[15:37] <uberamd> jcgs: whoops, good call
[15:37] <jcgs> no problem :)
[15:37] <uberamd> AlexLuya: do an apptitude install ibus from the terminal
[15:39] <mouser--> I've been working on this off and on for weeks now, and I'm really stuck and getting a little desperate since I need it for work.  Any other suggestions?
[15:40] <uberamd> So is it just not properly playing video?
[15:44] <mouser--> No, it won't play it at all in subtitle editor.  It's giving me a gstreamer error saying "could not initalise Xv output" even when Xv is disabled in the preferences.  Mplayer plays the files OK, though I imagine it's not using gstreamer.
[15:46] <jcgs> i'm kinda new at this, so it would be useful to know. how long is it normal to wait in an irc channel before someone acknowledges a question?
[15:47] <Dyrcona> Questions are sometimes never acknowledged is no one knows the answer or the question is not specific enough.
[15:47] <uberamd> many people just idle and don't check messages often
[15:47] <uberamd> there may be 293 people in this channel, but I bet there aren't more than 15 people even reading this
[15:47] <mouser--> jcgs: It varies, depending on how many people are in the channel and what they know.  Sometimes your messages can be lost in a big channel like #ubuntu, too.
[15:47] <jcgs> mouser--: is half an hour about normal?
[15:48] <Dyrcona> Also, many are in multiple channels, and conentrate on one or two at a time.
[15:48]  * Dyrcona is currently in 3 channels, but sometime in more.
[15:48] <uberamd> whats your question jcgs, I never saw it
[15:48] <jcgs> erm, i asked about whether it was possible to change a file type icon
[15:49] <jcgs> the system currently seems to be ignoring my attempts
[15:49] <mouser--> jcgs: I usually get responses in less than five minutes, but I've waited half an hour before, too.
[15:49] <uberamd> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16726
[15:49] <jcgs> ok thanks :)
[15:50] <uberamd> thats the first google result that came up for "change icon for file type kde"
[15:51] <jcgs> uberamd: i did find it earlier, it's just that all the posts on that issue are eighteen months old
[15:51] <jcgs> has nothing changed since they were written
[15:51] <jcgs> ???
[15:53] <mouser--> uberamd: I forgot what channel I was in, and left out what is probably an important bit of info.  I'm using Gnome currently, and would have asked this in #ubuntu if I could, but I'm banned for some reason (despite never joining #ubuntu from this country before)
[15:53] <uberamd> mouser--: ah, that does change things quite a bit
[15:54] <mouser--> uberamd: Sorry for that.
[15:54] <jcgs> uberamd: also, the bug that the forum posts refer to is marked as fixed, so they must think it is
[15:54] <uberamd> jcgs: yeah I think it is fixed, I hadn't tried it yet
[15:54] <Infinitum_Omega> Hi
[15:55] <uberamd> mouser--: I don't have gnome installed so I can't look at that issue for ya, sorry
[15:55] <uberamd> I have it on about 10 computers at home, but none at work
[15:55] <Infinitum_Omega> Anyone here experiencing issues with 10.04 Ubuntu / Kubuntu live ?
[15:55] <uberamd> what kind of issues?
[15:56] <uberamd> the only system that gave me issues when booting live was my Dell XPS 630i, besides that they have all run fine
[15:56] <mouser--> uberamd: Ah, thanks anyway.  I imagine I'm caught up in someone else's ban (is there a channel I can go to in order to try and get it removed?)
[15:56] <Infinitum_Omega> I tried the live kubuntu on my pc and it shows the GUI
[15:56] <Infinitum_Omega> window
[15:57] <Infinitum_Omega> that has a icon for drive , settings blah blah,
[15:57] <Infinitum_Omega> its loading then the screen flashes and im logged out
[15:58] <uberamd> mouser--: sorry man, but I don't know of anyone to talk to for that, I don't go to the ubuntu chan often
[15:58] <Infinitum_Omega> When trying terminal login the screen size is out of range
[15:58] <uberamd> it doesn't support your screen resolution
[15:58] <jimmy51_> why do file associations change on their own?  i often have to reset audio and video associations becuase the wrong programs start opening when i click them
[15:58] <uberamd> it is trying to switch to a resolution or frequency that your monitor doesn't support
[15:59] <Infinitum_Omega> I know that
[15:59] <Infinitum_Omega> but the gui works
[15:59] <uberamd> jimmy51_: are you changing them in SYstem Settings -> Default Applications
[15:59] <uberamd> the login GUI and the logged-in GUI can have 2 different resolution settings
[15:59] <Infinitum_Omega> but switching to a terminal makes it go blank
[15:59] <jimmy51_> uberamd: i'm changing them in System Settings - File Associations
[15:59] <Infinitum_Omega> It's a fresh install
[16:00] <jimmy51_> uberamd: i've set video files to open in VLC, and audio to open in amarok.
[16:00] <jimmy51_> uberamd: but about every two weeks i'll click on a video and it opens in dragon player
[16:00] <jimmy51_> and an mp3 will open in vlc
[16:00] <uberamd> jimmy51_: is that after updates?
[16:01] <jimmy51_> uberamd: then i have to go back in and set it.   it probably is after updates.... i install them when prompted.
[16:01] <uberamd> jimmy51_: if I had to guess I would say an update to dragon or some other media related service is switching defaults on you, not really sure how to stop it besides removing dragon
[16:01] <Infinitum_Omega> Start live disc .... Loads .... Open terminal ctrl + alt + F1 , it shows then i switch to gui and kubuntu loads, showing small bow with flashing icons,, when the first one lights up it starts again
[16:02] <jimmy51_> uberamd: ug.  it's highly annoying, especially on my wife's pc.  she tries to play her MP3's and gnomad something pops up and confuses her.
[16:02] <Infinitum_Omega> *box
[16:02] <uberamd> what does your xorg conf look like?
[16:02] <uberamd> jimmy51_: I totally understand, i would say just remove the applications you don't use and that issue will probably go away.
[16:03] <mouser--> uberamd: Thanks, anyway.  I'll try downloading and loading up a kubuntu cd.  :)
[16:03] <jimmy51_> uberamd: ok, i guess i could do that.  thanks.
[16:04] <uberamd> mouser--: No probs, have fun!
[16:04] <Infinitum_Omega> uberamd: You could say I'm a noob . lol But i'm trying. Well I haven't accessed that. Whats the path to it? and how would i access it on live
[16:04] <uberamd> jimmy51_: no problem
[16:05] <uberamd> Infinitum_Omega: it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you could do a: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf to view the output
[16:06] <Infinitum_Omega> uberamd: weird why it doesn't wanna work, damn...
[16:06] <Infinitum_Omega> ok but ill try that
[16:06] <Infinitum_Omega> Is the screen res defined in it as well?
[16:07] <uberamd> I think it can be, but it very well might not be in there, depends on a few things
[16:07] <uberamd> I have an NVIDIA card with the NVIDIA driver so it has its own config file elsewhere
[16:07] <Infinitum_Omega> Ok, I just don't get it... I'm using internal
[16:08] <Infinitum_Omega> Weird why it gets to login screen but just doesn't get past loading
[16:08] <Infinitum_Omega> I've tried fail-safe
[16:08] <Infinitum_Omega> Doesn't work
[16:12] <uberamd> so as soon as you login it just says out of range?
[16:14] <Infinitum_Omega> no
[16:15] <Infinitum_Omega> It shows the little window that has icons that light up as it loads the "service or feature"
[16:15] <Infinitum_Omega> When it reaches the third icon it logs out
[16:15] <Infinitum_Omega> When i ctrl alt F1
[16:15] <Infinitum_Omega> it shows out of range anf F7 brings me back to the login GUI
[16:15] <Infinitum_Omega> *and
[16:20] <Infinitum_Omega> Any idea?
[16:22] <uberamd> try going to a terminal and typing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:22] <uberamd> select no for framebuffer device
[16:22] <uberamd> then try again
[16:24] <Infinitum-Omega> OK, lol strange, got the dics in postage 2 days ago and now this bleh... , got reboot. So see you soon
[16:44] <frogman> Hi, could someone help me configuring my wifi card with kubuntu 10.4 please ?
[16:47] <phoenix__> anyone there
[16:51] <jcgs> phoenix__: i'm here, but i may not be much help
[16:52] <bukayo> got qt-sdk qt4-demos qt4-demos-dbg installed but Exploring Qt Examples still greyed out in qtcreator. any ideas how I cud get this to show up?
[16:52] <jcgs> frogman: what problems are you having?
[17:00] <phoenix__> jcgs: the linux media players are using ac3 filter, but i couldnt find the preferences dialog anywhere, can you tell where can i find it
[17:03] <frogman> jcqs : i followed all tuts and faqs about wifi. I couldn't obtain a dhcp lease despite i saw my wifi network
[17:03] <frogman> so i changed /etc/network/interfaces content
[17:04] <jcgs> phoenix__: is this a problems with a specific media player
[17:04] <frogman> following all advices given in the faq
[17:04] <phoenix__> jcgs: no, i want to configure ac3 filter
[17:04] <frogman> now i don't even see a single wifi network
[17:05] <jcgs> frogman: changing the interfaces file will mess up network-manager, i think, is it saying sth like network management disabled?
[17:07] <frogman> no
[17:07] <frogman> network unavailable
[17:08] <frogman> i would've liked to reset interfaces file to default but i don't know how
[17:08] <BluesKaj> frogman, do you get any data about wlan0 with iwconfig ?
[17:08] <|Charles|> Hello. I have a wrong information about my / occupation : said to be 98%, sure it is  wrong. How could I check ?
[17:09] <frogman> i'll try
[17:09] <jcgs> phoenix__: isn't the ac3 codec closed source? therefore how do you know that linux media players are using it?
[17:11] <jcgs> phoenix__: also, what about it are you trying to change?
[17:11] <uberamd> hes gone :(
[17:11] <uberamd> hes back
[17:11] <uberamd> lol
[17:11] <phoenix__> jcgs: sorry my system crashed
[17:12] <bukayo> frogman: are you using the plasma-widget-networkmanagement?
[17:12] <bukayo> makes wi-fi easy in lucid
[17:14] <frogman> BluesKaj : here's my iwconfig result : http://pastebin.com/NAeQd5h5
[17:15] <frogman> bukayo : i'm using kubuntu's default conf
[17:15] <jcgs> (17:09:48) jcgs: phoenix__: isn't the ac3 codec closed source? therefore how do you know that linux media players are using it?
[17:15] <jcgs> (17:11:00) jcgs: phoenix__: also, what about it are you trying to change?
[17:17] <ct529> hi guys! Kaffeine is not playing any sound, whilst dragon player is .... what is the problem here?
[17:18] <bukayo> frogman:  plasma-widget-networkmanagement is better
[17:22] <pollywog2> If I want to have my home directory encrypted, do I need to use the alternate installer?  The desktop one did not offer to encrypt
[17:22] <pollywog2> LTS version
[17:23] <pollywog2> or perhaps I needed to use the "advanced" options?
[17:23] <costi> hi
[17:23] <uberamd> Is there any way to make thunderbird work with kde notifications?
[17:26] <ct529> Kafeine is not playing any sound, whilst dragon player is .... what is the problem here?
[17:27] <uberamd> Did you check Kafeine's preferences?
[17:28] <uberamd> *kaffeine
[17:28] <draik> !mythbuntu
[17:28] <jcgs> uberamd: have you tried http://moztraybiff.mozdev.org/ ?
[17:29] <ct529> !kaffeine
[17:30] <ct529> uberamd: which preferences?
[17:30] <uberamd> jcgs: I haven't tried that yet, looks like it doesn't support 3.0 sadly :(
[17:30] <uberamd> ct529: To verify, the volume slider is all the way to the far right, and the audio isn't muted?
[17:31] <jcgs> uberamd: oh no :( would be useful to get though, kmail isn't as good as thunderbird
[17:31] <uberamd> jcgs: yeah I am not a fan of kmail either
[17:33] <ct529> uberamd: obviously
[17:33] <leinuxdotbasher> Help: Any one here developing flex client and zend amf... I bump on a problem that my flex client cant fetch a single data  but when running it under windows it will run smoothly
[17:33] <uberamd> ct529: nothing is ever obvious, I have seen it before so I had to ask
[17:33] <ct529> uberamd: :D
[17:34] <leinuxdotbasher> Im using flash minibuilder
[17:35] <ct529> uberamd: so what can I do now?
[17:35] <jcgs> uberamd: does your thunderbird give you it's own (idiosyncratic) popups? those probably use their space a bit better
[17:36] <uberamd> jcgs: I haven't seen one yet, I got 2 emails but no popups. I may have missed them though since I was working on a few other computers at the same time
[17:36] <jcgs> uberamd: mine does but they're not always accurate
[17:36] <uberamd> ct529: what kind of files are you trying to play?
[17:36] <ct529> uberamd: mp3?
[17:37] <uberamd> jcgs: on my Gnome Linux Mint system they are usually way off, it will show my spam emails in the list as well as a bunch of old emails too. Oh wells
[17:38] <uberamd> ct529: couldn't tell ya bud, I don't use Kaffeine much. just google it a bit and post in the forums if you don't find anything
[18:00] <draik> Anyone know how to disable the suspension on a monitor? My monitor goes to sleep/suspend after 10 minutes of inactivity.
[18:02] <jcgs> power management? search for it in the kde menu
[18:07] <Infinitum-Omega> Hi
[18:07] <Infinitum-Omega> uberamd:  Are you here>
[18:09] <Infinitum-Omega> Anyone here?
[18:10] <jcgs> i'm here, not sure about anyone else
[18:12] <DarthFrog> Nobody here but us chickens.
[18:13]  * djustice passz the doobie
[18:13] <rork_> hm, crowded
[18:14] <rork_> I guess he got an answer to his question ;)
[18:16] <Infinitum-Omega> DC
[18:16] <Infinitum-Omega> Can you help me with an issue in kububtu?
[18:18] <rork_> !ask | Infinitum-Omega
[18:19] <mad> bonjour
[18:19] <Infinitum-Omega> Lol. Ok
[18:19] <mad> y a t'il des déçus d'ubuntu ici?
[18:20] <LjL> !fr | mad
[18:21] <Infinitum-Omega> Well on lucid lynx, seems to be all variants, when at the GUI login, I enter my details and click login, the window that shows,graphically, whats loading reaches a certain icon and then the system goes back to the login window.
[18:21] <mad> i am sorry ubottu
[18:21] <Infinitum-Omega> After that has happend I am unanble to acces terminals using the ctrl alt F* command
[18:22] <Infinitum-Omega> unable*
[18:22] <mad> i don't read beetwen...
[18:22] <Infinitum-Omega> It gives a screen size out of range on my Monitor
[18:22] <Infinitum-Omega> I have the xorg logs
[18:26] <Infinitum-Omega> .
[18:26] <draik> Is there a player that can play ISO with DVD menus?
[18:26] <Infinitum-Omega> VLC?
[18:30] <draik> Infinitum-Omega: Thank you. Working out nicely
[18:30] <uberamd> VLC r0x
[18:31] <draik> And now I'm watching Clerks
[18:31] <Infinitum-Omega> .
[18:31] <Infinitum-Omega> Cool..
[18:32] <timby> I am having a major problem with an infected system
[18:32] <draik> timby: Infected, how?
[18:32] <timby> It will not let me install Vista, so I am trying to install Kubuntu
[18:32] <timby> But when installing Kubntu it gets stuck on the choose keyboard layout after I select US
[18:33] <timby> draik: a virus
[18:33] <draik> Can you run it from the LiveCD?
[18:33] <timby> I am running a memtest on it now from a Kubuntu installtion cd
[18:33] <timby> Yes I was on the OS through a Kubuntu LiveCD
[18:35] <timby> draik: Is there anything I can do to delete EVERYTHING on the HD while in the OS through the LiveCD
[18:39] <draik> Yes
[18:39] <draik> Get gparted
[18:39] <draik> Format the drive
[18:39] <Infinitum-Omega> wait
[18:40] <Infinitum-Omega> What system do you have?
[18:40] <timby> its a Vista OS underneath
[18:40] <Infinitum-Omega> Do you have any OS on the drive, if so which?
[18:40] <uberamd> wait, Clerks the animated series?
[18:40] <timby> I have some LiveCD's as well
[18:40] <Infinitum-Omega> Ok so have you tried safe mode?
[18:40] <timby> draik: gparted is that a Linux command
[18:40] <draik> package
[18:41] <timby> safe mode will not work, not does normal mode
[18:41] <Infinitum-Omega> Ok
[18:41] <timby> how do i run gparted
[18:41] <draik> install it first
[18:41] <DarthFrog> partitionmanager is the Kubuntu equivalent of gparted.
[18:41] <draik> Open konsole
[18:41] <timby> will gparted delete EVERYTHING
[18:41] <draik> sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:41] <Infinitum-Omega> you could get avast or another av and install it while running live disc if thats possible
[18:41] <uberamd> use PartitionManager if you use KDE
[18:41] <draik> gparted will format the drive for you, that will delete EVERYTHING
[18:41] <DarthFrog> timby: It can, if you tell it to.
[18:41] <Infinitum-Omega> and scan the vista partition
[18:41] <timby> I tried avast
[18:42] <Infinitum-Omega> have you run it off the Linux disc?
[18:42] <timby> so go into the Linux live cd adn type the sudo apt-get install gparted and then how do i run gparted
[18:43] <timby> yes I scanned the vista partition from Linux with avast and clam and trinity rescue disk and avira
[18:43] <timby> nothing has helped yet
[18:43] <draik> timby, that command will only install gparted
[18:43] <draik> You need to run it from the Applications menu
[18:43] <Infinitum-Omega> good luck
[18:44] <draik> Select your drive and kiss the info goodbye
[18:44] <timby> ok select the drive, that will be like sda1   right?
[18:44] <draik> timby: presumably, yes
[18:45] <Infinitum-Omega> Are you sure it's a virus?
[18:45] <timby> yes
[18:45] <timby> like 40 of them
[18:45] <timby> thats what avira found
[18:45] <timby> on the recover cd i made to scan the sys
[18:46] <Infinitum-Omega> Ok
[18:46] <timby> these viruses won't be able to get into my USB LiveCD for Linux will it?
[18:46] <luigi_> ciao
[18:46] <luigi_> hello
[18:46] <Infinitum-Omega> Nah
[18:47] <luigi_> im luigi
[18:47] <Infinitum-Omega> they need likely need the windows environment
[18:47] <Infinitum-Omega> lol -need
[18:47] <Infinitum-Omega> Unless they load before your USB boots
[18:47] <vbgunz> how can I make so regardless of mode in konqueror (web browsing, file browsing) if I am entering a search term in the search bar, alt+return will always do a web search into a new tab?
[18:48] <InvaderZim> please good souls, can anyone take a look at this and help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+bug/584674
[18:48] <Infinitum-Omega> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9352954 if anyone can help please do
[18:49] <Infinitum-Omega> Invader
[18:49] <Infinitum-Omega> my and your links are the same thing mate
[18:49] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: not quite, almost, but not quite
[18:49] <InvaderZim> I can't even see the loading icons
[18:50] <Infinitum-Omega> lol
[18:50] <InvaderZim> and I can't go to the console anymore
[18:50] <Infinitum-Omega> Well on the live disc I barely see them
[18:50] <InvaderZim> the monitor goes out of range, everything's black, have to type in the blind
[18:50] <Infinitum-Omega> It's nearly the same
[18:50] <Infinitum-Omega> I'm putting your link in the post
[18:51] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: well put on launchpad that the bug affects you too then
[18:51] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: speaking of which, have you tried stopping kdm, and from the terminal running startx?
[18:51] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: thats the way i manage to get into kde
[18:51] <timby> draik: where do I find the gparted app on the menu ?
[18:51] <Infinitum-Omega> InvaderZim: no , how to do that
[18:51] <Infinitum-Omega> ?
[18:52] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: in the login screen, press e.g. ctrl+alt+f1
[18:52] <Infinitum-Omega> yep?
[18:52] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: login in the console... sudo service kdm stop
[18:52] <Infinitum-Omega> n00b <----
[18:52] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: then type startx and enter
[18:52] <Infinitum-Omega> thanks! Gonna try now
[18:52] <Infinitum-Omega> It seems to affect normal ubuntu too
[18:52] <uberamd> you got in by stopping KDM? What window manager was running then to let you see the GUI?
[18:52] <draik> timby: Once installed... K Menu > Applications > System
[18:53] <InvaderZim> uberamd: which gui?
[18:53] <Infinitum-Omega> I got my logs by using he terminal and copying to my flash the logs
[18:53] <timby> K
[18:53] <Infinitum-Omega> *the
[18:53] <timby> I can't find it under System
[18:53] <Infinitum-Omega> Gnome?
[18:53] <timby> what is it called
[18:53] <uberamd> InvaderZim: if you kill KDM, and GDM isn't installed, what window manager is?
[18:53] <Infinitum-Omega> oh not at me
[18:53] <timby> KDE
[18:53] <draik> timby: gparted
[18:54] <timby> yeah, I don't see it
[18:54] <timby> is there a command line I could run?
[18:54] <InvaderZim> uberamd: KDM/GDM/XDM are not window managers per se
[18:54] <llutz> those aren't windowmanagers at all
[18:54] <uberamd> InvaderZim: so KDE can run without KDM? interesting
[18:54] <uberamd> Yeah I didn't mean WM
[18:54] <llutz> desktop-managers they are
[18:54] <uberamd> idk what I said that
[18:55] <uberamd> why*
[18:55] <InvaderZim> my issue is getting horrible each time i try one more thing
[18:55] <InvaderZim> and the worst part, it's a brand new clean fresh install
[18:55] <uberamd> do Fedora KDE live cd's work for you?
[18:55] <InvaderZim> and it was wroking flawlessly in karmic
[18:56] <uberamd> Usually when I am having an obscure issue I will try a different distro's live cd and see if it is the distro, or KDE itself
[18:56] <Infinitum-Omega> What happens if i do get in at InvaderZim
[18:56] <timby> draik: when I run gparted from cmd line it says cannot open display
[18:56] <Infinitum-Omega> ok timby
[18:56] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: well... you happily use it normally
[18:57] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: you just won't see the shutdown/restart options...
[18:57] <timby> any1 know what I can do?
[18:57] <Infinitum-Omega> Cool off to try , put the link in my post.. How does one shut down etc from terminal
[18:58] <Infinitum-Omega> timby wait a min
[18:58] <timby> cool, ty
[18:58] <Infinitum-Omega> http://www.partimage.org/
[18:58] <llutz> timby: alt-f2: "kdesu gparted"
[18:58] <Infinitum-Omega> thats more useful
[18:59] <timby> ah.. HA   ty
[18:59] <timby> its seaching partitions now... Looking GOOD    A light at the end of the tunnel
[18:59] <timby> hopefully
[19:03] <timby> I am running GParted and its been seaching the partitions for about 10 mins now,  what should I do?
[19:04] <mouser--> uberamd: Well, I'm back after installing kubuntu.  Same error.  I think this is a gstreamer issue, and might have something to do with virtualbox's guest additions (just a hunch).
[19:06] <uberamd> mouser--: Thats possible, I have seen strange things like that in VB before
[19:08] <Infinitum-Omega> InvaderZim: Back, my system froze
[19:08] <Infinitum-Omega> I believe the reason you didn't see the icons are due to having a much faster system than my own
[19:09] <Infinitum-Omega> -Maybe-
[19:09] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: no this pc is old
[19:10] <Infinitum-Omega> bleh.. lol
[19:10] <uberamd> Did you try an alternate CD infinitum, and then do a text-based install from there?
[19:10] <Infinitum-Omega> So it froze completely
[19:10] <Infinitum-Omega> had to reset it at the box
[19:11] <Infinitum-Omega> I don't have internet except for my mobile internet that's extremely slow and expensive
[19:11] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: the alt+f1 is really similar
[19:12] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: but it just started happening at mine, it didnt before
[19:12] <Lantizia> Is there a way I can use the Kubuntu 10.04 Alternate CD to install kde-core instead of kde-desktop?
[19:12] <Infinitum-Omega> InvaderZim: What do you mean?
[19:12] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: the monitor starts blinking and you cant see anything
[19:12] <InvaderZim> at the console for gods sake!
[19:13] <InvaderZim> i never saw that before
[19:13] <InvaderZim> i bet its that splash stuff messing with the video
[19:13] <Infinitum-Omega> ??
[19:13] <Infinitum-Omega> U swearing at me xD
[19:13] <Infinitum-Omega> ?
[19:13] <InvaderZim> sometimes I went to the console, and the background was all blue, and the white dots were blinking as if it was loading, even though it wasnt... hard to read and type
[19:14] <Infinitum-Omega> I saw that
[19:14] <Infinitum-Omega>  when i pressed the power button at the top of the screen pink
[19:14] <InvaderZim> i tried a bunch of vga mode combination in the kernel grub line... all black
[19:14] <Lantizia> anyone?
[19:14] <Infinitum-Omega> and when kubuntu loads i see a flash of green
[19:14] <Infinitum-Omega> is that normal?
[19:15] <InvaderZim> Lantizia: i think you can, you just have to put the cd as a source to apt sources
[19:15] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: hehehe me too
[19:15] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: right before kdm right
[19:16] <Lantizia> InvaderZim, umm you mean after it's finished install it all including kde-desktop?
[19:16] <Infinitum-Omega> InvaderZim:  I think so
[19:16] <InvaderZim> Lantizia: no not quite... I think it's even commented out at apt sources, check there
[19:16] <Infinitum-Omega> Can't recall
[19:17] <Lantizia> InvaderZim, tell me... what would be the point of installing kde-core after the entire CD has installed?
[19:17] <Infinitum-Omega> It's really pissd me this bug... I just wana update and drop win
[19:17] <Infinitum-Omega> xD Lantizia
[19:17] <InvaderZim> Lantizia: hm i didnt understand your question properly then
[19:18] <Lantizia> Infinitum-Omega :)
[19:18] <Lantizia> Am I making sense to anyone else?
[19:19] <Infinitum-Omega> Why does the splash look all ugly ? seems to be loading in 256 colours
[19:19] <Infinitum-Omega> Not to me
[19:19] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: oh don't get on that
[19:20] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: there is a workaround for it, mess with some grub cfgs
[19:20] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: after you update the 256 color impression will be gone
[19:20] <Infinitum-Omega> <--new to linux.. Need i remind you?
[19:21] <Infinitum-Omega> should i update grub?
[19:21] <Infinitum-Omega> add a option
[19:21] <Infinitum-Omega> ?
[19:21] <InvaderZim> i suggest you try it after your more serious problem
[19:22] <Infinitum-Omega> I'm using hary
[19:22] <Infinitum-Omega> now
[19:22] <Infinitum-Omega> so it's not that important
[19:22] <Infinitum-Omega> I can wait for a fix
[19:22] <Infinitum-Omega> but i cant download huge updates
[19:23] <Infinitum-Omega> I believe a simmilar issue exists in Ubuntu
[19:25] <Infinitum-Omega> *Hardy
[19:25] <Infinitum-Omega> not harry
[19:28] <Infinitum-Omega> any further ideas?
[19:31] <Infinitum-Omega> ??
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Hardy is ancient.  Install Lucid.
[19:32] <Infinitum-Omega> Lmfao
[19:32] <Infinitum-Omega> Darth?Frog
[19:32] <Infinitum-Omega> Where did you come from
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Hardy is 5 versions old.
[19:33] <Infinitum-Omega> I'm here because of bugs with a fresh install of Lucid
[19:33] <Infinitum-Omega> Hardy is a LTS version
[19:33] <ephraim> hey, i need to install java plugin on firefox. sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin doesn;t work
[19:34] <DarthFrog> Lucid is an LTS version.
[19:34] <Infinitum-Omega> Google it?
[19:34] <Infinitum-Omega> I know
[19:34] <Infinitum-Omega> That's why im updating
[19:34] <Infinitum-Omega> I just told you it has got bugs
[19:34] <Infinitum-Omega> I can't even log in
[19:34] <Lantizia> DarthFrog, yes but it's barely worth being LTS - yet
[19:35] <Infinitum-Omega> I agree with Lantizia
[19:35] <DarthFrog> Lantizia: Perhaps, but it is LTS.
[19:35] <Infinitum-Omega> Sounds the same as Vista @ Lantizia
[19:35] <Lantizia> Just because someone looked at a calender ... saw that it was April and two years had past ... doesn't make a stable distribution
[19:36] <Infinitum-Omega> Released too soon
[19:36] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Can you boot to maintenance mode from GRUB?
[19:36] <roma> всем привет
[19:36] <DarthFrog> !re | roma
[19:36] <Infinitum-Omega> recovery mode ?
[19:36] <Infinitum-Omega> Yes i believe i can
[19:36] <DarthFrog> !ru | roma
[19:37] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Then drop to a root console with networking.  The commands you want are: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:37] <doom777> !he | doom777
[19:37] <DarthFrog> All on one line.
[19:37] <Lantizia> Am I the only one who thinks KDE on 10.04 crashes LOOOOADS
[19:37] <Infinitum-Omega> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9352954#post9352954 @ DarthFrog
[19:37] <Lantizia> network manager crashes.... kwin crashes... the pdf viewer crashes.... kate crashes...
[19:37] <Infinitum-Omega> I don't have cap to do updates
[19:37] <doom777> yea, i get many crashes
[19:37] <Lantizia> amarok is always crashing lol
[19:37] <doom777> randomlu
[19:38] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Did you try Ubuntu or just Kubuntu?
[19:38] <Lantizia> akonidi or whatever it's called barely ever works out of the box
[19:38] <DarthFrog> Lantizia: Sounds like a hardware problem.
[19:38] <Infinitum-Omega> Both
[19:38] <Infinitum-Omega> I got the disks in the pos
[19:38] <Infinitum-Omega> *post
[19:38] <Lantizia> DarthFrog, you've got mystical abilities to see inside my computer then have you and know that for sure?
[19:39] <DarthFrog> Lantizia: I said it SOUNDS like a hardware problem.  I didn't say it WAS a hardware problem.
[19:39] <Infinitum-Omega> wb InvaderZim
[19:39] <Lantizia> Take your wild unfounded guesses elsewhere
[19:39] <Infinitum-Omega> any ideas?
[19:40] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: for the ugly splash?
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega> -Laughs-
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega> for the non-booting system
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega> lol
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega> I mean
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega>  no logging in
[19:40] <Infinitum-Omega> non*
[19:42] <Infinitum-Omega> Anyone use opera browser?
[19:42] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: i use on my phone, does it count?
[19:42] <Infinitum-Omega> It's got a feature that compresses webpages for your PC.
[19:43] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: about the boot... you should show us your X log
[19:43] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: and dmesg
[19:43] <Infinitum-Omega> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9352954#post9352954 good enough?
[19:43] <Infinitum-Omega> ok wait
[19:43] <Infinitum-Omega> whats dmesg?
[19:45] <InvaderZim> a command, just type dmesg
[19:46] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: What video card do  you have?
[19:46] <Infinitum-Omega> ok
[19:46] <InvaderZim> yes that would help, your card
[19:46] <Infinitum-Omega> Via Unichrome built in
[19:47] <real_ate> help! gnome has taken over my desktop and i've lost the KDE prettiness! ... on a more serious note, gnome desktop shell seems to have actually taken over my desktop and put its desktop over kde...
[19:47] <real_ate> how do i kill it ?
[19:47] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: seems there is a bug report for it
[19:47] <DarthFrog> real_ate: Does it boot into GNOME?
[19:47] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/+bug/576445
[19:48] <Infinitum-Omega> why are all the links in https?
[19:48] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: use the NoAccel option
[19:48] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: edit xorg.conf and under the driver section put Option "NoAccel"
[19:49] <InvaderZim> should work
[19:49] <Infinitum-Omega> Wow mate! thanks What did you search for?
[19:49] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: googled kubuntu 10.04 Via Unichrome
[19:49] <InvaderZim> pretty straightforward
[19:49] <Infinitum-Omega> lol.
[19:49] <InvaderZim> hehe
[19:50] <real_ate> DarthFrog: no it doesn't, it boots into KDE
[19:50] <InvaderZim> or I could tell you that I'm a great guru and hide that fact
[19:50] <Infinitum-Omega> I could have done that : / didn't expect it though
[19:50] <Infinitum-Omega> Haha
[19:50] <DarthFrog> real_ate: And then what, specifically?
[19:50] <real_ate> I think i know what caused the error... I have a nonsymetrical setup of screens and when I clicked the "unavailable" space this happened
[19:51] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: it will disable 2d acceleration until they figure out whats wrong
[19:51] <DarthFrog> real_ate: Can you close all the unwanted apps, then log out and log back in again?
[19:51] <real_ate> now i have a gnome desktop ( HDD volume icons and all )
[19:51] <Infinitum-Omega> wheres that xorg file located?
[19:51] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: /etc/X11/
[19:51] <real_ate> DarthFrog: can't logout yet
[19:51] <Infinitum-Omega> hmm
[19:51] <Infinitum-Omega> ok
[19:51] <real_ate> just want to know what the name of gnome shell is so i can kill it
[19:51] <real_ate> ... maybe i try nautalus
[19:52] <DarthFrog> real_ate: Try "ps auxww | less" to see all the running processes.
[19:52] <real_ate> thats it
[19:52] <real_ate> killed nautilus and it cmae back!
[19:52] <real_ate> phew!
[19:52] <Infinitum-Omega> Ubuntu should be tested on some huge computer that implements various virtual hardware combinations
[19:53] <InvaderZim> Infinitum-Omega: you should develop that initiative for us then =)
[19:53] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: It is.  It's called beta testing. :-)
[19:53] <Infinitum-Omega> Yes I get that
[19:54] <InvaderZim> now can anyone of you help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/+bug/576445
[19:54] <Infinitum-Omega> but so much for beta testing
[19:54] <Infinitum-Omega> good luck invader
[19:54] <InvaderZim> hehe thx
[19:55] <Infinitum-Omega> I'll check your report
[19:55] <Infinitum-Omega> tomorrow
[19:55] <Infinitum-Omega> and the day after
[19:55] <InvaderZim> oh bug reports take a long while
[19:55] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Beta testing can't catch everything. That's why systems are updated after release.
[19:55] <Infinitum-Omega> ...
[19:56] <InvaderZim> oops
[19:56] <InvaderZim> wrong link
[19:56] <InvaderZim> correct link: anyone help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+bug/584674
[19:56] <Infinitum-Omega> Thats why we need virtualization
[19:56] <Infinitum-Omega> The guys with strong pcs
[19:56] <InvaderZim> yes let's return to dumb terminals
[19:56] <InvaderZim> like it was already done 30 years ago
[19:56] <Infinitum-Omega> should connect into a cloud
[19:56] <InvaderZim> so we didn't advance at all
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> and share processor time with the main server
[19:57] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Well, you could always try a different video card.  Disable the on-board one.
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> to allow virtualization to take place faster
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> I only have on-board
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> I'm not a gamer
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> I enjoy programming
[19:57] <Infinitum-Omega> xD
[19:58] <Infinitum-Omega> Rather write text based games
[19:58] <InvaderZim> the problem with ubuntu is that most of its users dont have money, so they have unusual hardware. ubuntu works for mainstrem hardware
[19:58] <Infinitum-Omega> I think 3D is gona die out again some time , I hope
[19:58] <InvaderZim> mainstream
[19:58] <DarthFrog> Infinitum-Omega: Then you must feel like you're in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. :-)
[19:59] <Infinitum-Omega> ignore that again
[19:59] <InvaderZim> 3D?
[19:59] <InvaderZim> "if only real life were in 3D..."
[19:59] <Infinitum-Omega> Yes I love Textbased, probably because it's easier to write that a GUI
[19:59] <Infinitum-Omega> I meant in games
[20:00] <Infinitum-Omega> Is it not?
[20:00] <Infinitum-Omega> Lol
[20:00] <Infinitum-Omega> found som pr0n
[20:00] <Infinitum-Omega> text files xD
[20:01] <Infinitum-Omega> You guys ever seen ASCII art / porn haha?
[20:02] <DarthFrog> Line printer nudes. :-)
[20:03] <Infinitum-Omega> :p
[20:03] <Infinitum-Omega> I got 74 files of thos :/
[20:03] <Infinitum-Omega> those
[20:03] <Infinitum-Omega> or is it more
[20:03] <Infinitum-Omega> 94
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>            -=[ woman in cake ]=-  8/98
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                \\\ ,
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                 \ `|
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                  ) (   .-""-.
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                  | |  /_  {  '.
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                  | | (/ `\   } )
[20:04] <FloodBotK1> Infinitum-Omega: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                  | |  ^/ ^`}   {
[20:04] <Infinitum-Omega>                                  \  \ \=  ( {   )
[20:06] <Infinitum-Omega> lol
[20:07] <maco> Infinitum-Omega: that was a warning shot
[20:07] <Infinitum-Omega> Excuse
[20:10] <Infinitum-Omega> .
[20:10] <InvaderZim> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
[20:20] <matias> hola, hay alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[20:20] <DarthFrog> !es | matias
[21:03] <uberamd> Is there any way to make firefox ignore the color schemes? I have a dark scheme, and the background in text boxes (like google) is black instead of white and its really annoying
[21:06] <wafaa> hi
[21:07] <wafaa> every body
[21:07] <caprea> I would like to add a quick launch to my task bar but I can only figure how to add widgets. How would I add a shortcut to a specified app?
[21:08] <uberamd> Grab the icon from Launcher, and drag it to the taskbar, it should show a space for it as you move it around
[21:09] <caprea> not seeing the icon, would it make a difference that I'm using the classic style launcher?
[21:09] <uberamd> you should just be able to grab the text then. If that doesn't work, you may need to switch menus
[21:10] <caprea> wait.. when you say Launcher you mean what? I thought you meant Kickoff/K start menu
[21:11] <uberamd> yeah
[21:11] <caprea> then no luck, I cant drag things from that
[21:11] <uberamd> click K menu, grab the app you want, drag it between the K menu and QuickAccess Browser, or Desktop Switcher
[21:11] <uberamd> seriously? I just did it.
[21:12] <uberamd> or right click and do Add to Panel
[21:12] <caprea> right click kinda works
[21:12] <caprea> I think I can accomplish what I want with that, thanks
[21:12] <uberamd> no probs
[21:13] <caprea> what i really want to do is have a quicklaunch to a shell script, so I guess I'll add it on the menu editor
[21:14] <uberamd> You should be able to just write a shell script and drag the file from Dolphin to the task bar as well
[21:14] <uberamd> I just tested that too, and it worked for me
[21:14] <caprea> hopw about changing the icon?
[21:15] <uberamd> Right Click -> Properties -> Click the Wrench Icon -> Click the lage file icon -> Select new icon
[21:16] <uberamd> large*
[21:16] <caprea> wont that change the icon for ALL sh files?
[21:16] <uberamd> I don't think so, just that file
[21:16] <uberamd> let me test quick
[21:16] <caprea> Hmm..
[21:16] <uberamd> eh it may
[21:16] <uberamd> 1 sec
[21:17] <caprea> at the top of the dialog the title is "Edit File Type application/x-shellscript"
[21:17] <uberamd> it didn't for me
[21:17] <uberamd> it just changed the one
[21:17] <caprea> oh wow ok Ill try it
[21:20] <caprea> thanks for trying uberamd
[21:20] <caprea> but that updates teh whole system
[21:20] <uberamd> Thats very strange, I changed one for my ISO image and it only updated the one
[21:20] <caprea> maybe because you use Dolphin? I'm using Konq for my file browsing
[21:21] <uberamd> that may be it
[21:21] <caprea> althougjh...
[21:21] <caprea> now I have reverted the icon back to its original
[21:21] <caprea> and the one I put in the panel is what i changed it to (it didnt revert back)
[21:22] <caprea> so I got what I wanted
[21:22] <uberamd> lol that works
[21:45] <Sonsee> hi all, I did upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 via manager. Now after the login prompt it says cannot start ksmserver, there is an ok buttom if I press it the system logs me out. Suggestions?
[21:48] <Sonsee> *on how to repair?
[21:55] <jimmy51_> i don't seem to be able to run jnlp files.  i click it, get a security dialog, and then nothing happens.
[21:56] <onlooker> Hi. Is there an easy way to roll back changes in apt-get or is browsing /var/log/apt/history.log the only way?
[22:07] <jimmy51_> !java
[22:09] <jimmy51_> !Multiverse
[22:22] <AhmedBH> Hi, I have just UNINSTALLED KDE and still when my computer boots up it says KUBUNTU how do i remove it ?
[22:23] <Sir_Brizz> you need to use gdm instead of kdm
[22:31] <moj0rising> hi. I have an Intel 965 chipset and just upgraded to Lucid. My video is operating at reduced resolution and compositing no longer works.
[22:31] <moj0rising> Can anyone tell me where I should look to address this?
[22:36] <kent> Is there a Ubuntu server on here?
[22:41] <moj0rising> kent, what do you mean?
[23:02] <reskeeone> hi
[23:07] <cp> hello
[23:07] <reskeeone> hello too
[23:08] <cp> whats up?
[23:08] <reskeeone> great!!
[23:08] <reskeeone> kubuntu rocks!!
[23:08] <cp> thats right :P
[23:11] <reskeeone> umm
[23:11] <reskeeone> help me
[23:12] <reskeeone> there no sounds in my kubuntu
[23:17] <sidney> I need to install a desktop manager I have beeb told that a K desktp is better for a fils server
[23:18] <reskeeone> wow
[23:19] <sidney> And do all k desktops have the eyecandy and plasma desktop
[23:20] <reskeeone> how to?
[23:36] <Walzmyn> in Dolphin I'm using the "remember folder settings" option. How can I change the default for new folders (such as an SD card)?
[23:55] <Snarkster> anyone in here know anyhting about sata drives?