/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/24/#ubuntu-manual.txt

ChrisWoollardIf I wanted to fix some of those many bugs. How your I go about it?00:18
godbykChrisWoollard: You'd have to have TeX Live 2009 installed, download the lucid-e2 branch from bzr, and then start editing.00:19
godbykDon't just take the bug reporters' words for it, though.  They may not always be right. :)00:20
godbyk(Technically, you don't need TL2009, but it's good to test that it compiles successfully before you commit.)00:20
ChrisWoollardI know they might not be accurate.00:21
ChrisWoollardBut at least they have spent the effort finding things00:21
ChrisWoollardWhat do you do after editing? That is the bit I am unsure of?00:23
godbykSave the file, commit it to bzr, and push.00:23
godbykDo you know how to use bzr?00:23
ChrisWoollardNot to much but I have read http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/00:23
ChrisWoollardAnd i have managed to get the manual from bzr ok before00:24
ZeikeWhat is the location to push revisions too?  I've just done some bug-fixes00:24
Zeikebzr push lp:ubuntu-manual, yes?00:27
godbykZeike: yes.00:28
godbykChrisWoollard: the basic workflow is:00:28
godbykbzr pull00:28
godbykmake edits00:28
godbykbzr pull (again)00:28
godbykbzr commit00:28
godbykbzr push00:28
godbyklather, rinse, repeat.00:28
ChrisWoollardI assume that that second bzr pull is the collect updated revisions before commiting00:29
godbykChrisWoollard: yep00:30
godbykmake sure that, if a pull modifies a file you've been working on, it didn't screw something up.00:30
ChrisWoollardthanks. that is useful.00:31
ChrisWoollardThat makes sense/00:31
ChrisWoollardNight All.....00:39
ZeikeOn page 121 there is a nice chart of the standard files directories with a quick introduction.  Is it planned to add a complete description of what most of these directories are for?01:31
ZeikeAlso, the section immediately after that on "Mounting and unmounting removable devices" seems out of place in the command line section.01:32
godbykZeike: I think that was one of the unfinished sections. Explaining the Linux file system layout.01:33
Zeikeis there a place on launchpad where we're keeping track of that sort of thing?01:36
godbykNot that I know of.01:37
godbykFeel free to file a bug so we don't forget.01:37
ZeikeAlright.  I don't mind writing the file system descriptions either01:38
godbykSure. You might email the list and ask what should go there. I don't know what they originally had in mind.01:41
nisshhi cant remember who did that section it was added on right at the last minute01:42
ZeikeI filed a bug01:47
* humphreybc is doing python labs, everyone, beware!01:53
ZeikeSo I noticed from the mailing list that theres some tension between this & the ubuntu-docs team?02:00
humphreybcthere used to be, but now I think everything is coming right02:01
nisshhwell, we hope02:02
Zeikewell thats good then02:05
humphreybcflan: ping02:06
* humphreybc cries for help02:06
humphreybcgodbyk, ping02:07
godbykhumphreybc: pong02:07
humphreybchelp me!02:07
godbykwhat's up?02:07
humphreybcI'm trying to catch up on labs that I missed while I was away02:07
humphreybcConveniently, I also missed the associated lectures02:07
* nisshh throws humphreybc a python lifesavers ring02:08
godbykfun02:08
humphreybcwhich means that I'm firing myself blindly into the object oriented bit of python02:08
humphreybcwhich means I have no idea what I'm doing02:08
nisshhoooh, i did some OOP just the other day02:08
humphreybcI have two python files, Point.py and Rectangle.py02:08
humphreybcetherpad?02:08
godbyksure.02:09
humphreybchttp://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/humphreybc-help02:09
godbykIs anyone currently editing the manual?03:00
godbyk(So I don't end up creating conflicts when we all commit our changes.)03:00
humphreybcI don't think so03:03
humphreybcIlya was ediitng last but he's gone now?03:03
godbykIlya's out for a bit. But a couple other people were going to start editing, I think.03:05
humphreybchmm03:05
humphreybcwe should have a meeting, this weekend?03:06
godbykWe do need to have a meeting very soon, yeah.03:06
godbykI'm game for this weekend.03:06
humphreybcokay03:06
humphreybci'll sort it out later today03:06
godbyksounds good03:06
humphreybcdid daker look at that malware thing on our site?03:07
humphreybcI love Joey's sidebar image for our "Show us ya bugs" competition on omgubuntu03:07
humphreybccheck it out, top of the sidebar on the right, http://omgubuntu.co.uk03:08
godbykI fixed the malware thing.03:08
godbyknice03:08
godbykhard to read, though.03:08
humphreybcwhen Ilya and yourself have been triaging bugs, have you been assigning and targeting to milestones?03:08
humphreybcor just changing the status?03:09
godbykI've just started. I try to assign milestones.03:09
humphreybcalso, priority would be nice too03:09
godbykThough so far I've been mostly just marking the invalid ones to get them out of the way.03:09
humphreybcsure03:09
godbykyep03:09
humphreybcnot sure how we're going to keep track of who's submitted 10 confirmed03:10
humphreybcI guess we just wait for someone to say they have, then go into their launchpad profile and see if they've got 10 bugs listed that are confirmed03:10
godbykor you can go through and tally 'em up at some point. :)03:10
humphreybcor i could do that, yeah03:10
humphreybclol03:10
humphreybchowcome this aint working no more? http://stats.ubuntu-manual.org/downloads/?id=803:14
humphreybcand how many copies of the book have sold on lulu?03:14
godbykhumphreybc: because it's doing evil things and I haven't fixed it yet.03:14
godbyk(it tries to pull the entire db table into memory and then tally things up instead of running nice SQL queries that do the work for us.)03:15
godbykOoh.. free shipping on orders over $19.95 for this summer (at lulu.com).03:16
godbykI think ~70 books have been sold.03:16
humphreybcshit!03:16
godbykHard to tell though as lulu doesn't tell me when each book is sold. just gives me odd counts.03:16
humphreybcthat's still pretty impressive.03:16
humphreybcdo you know how many downloads now?03:16
humphreybcor do we have to wait till that thing is fixed03:16
godbykno clue03:16
godbykwe'll have to wait 'til we get the stats page fixed03:17
humphreybcdamn, i want to see if we're over 100,000 :)03:17
godbyknope.  around 87k, I think.03:18
humphreybcalmost there03:18
godbykand over 3k people signed up for notification when their translation is released.03:19
humphreybcoh crap03:19
humphreybchow are they going anyway?03:19
humphreybccan we get some translated ones out?03:19
godbykGerman and Greek are fairly close.03:20
godbykBut don't go posting things to twitter yet. :)03:20
humphreybcare they being edited?03:20
godbykyeah.03:20
humphreybcgroovy03:20
humphreybcSpanish would be lovely to get out03:20
humphreybcshould I be looking here for the latest translation status, or somewhere else? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual03:21
godbykthat's the place, basically.03:21
godbykrequests for notification on the translations:03:22
godbykspanish = 96703:22
godbykrussian = 32103:23
nisshhi have an idea03:23
godbykportuguese =27603:23
godbykgerman = 26103:23
godbykvietnamese = 25803:23
nisshhfor a feature on the website03:23
godbykspanish = another 22403:23
godbykswedish = 14503:23
godbykrussian = another 14003:23
humphreybcnisshh: fire away03:23
nisshhwell, i was thinking, why not have all the languages currently being worked on listed in a drop-down box on the downloads page03:24
nisshhwhen you go to download it03:24
nisshhand if that language isnt yet complete, have a percentage bar(can we get the progress from LP?) showing how complete it ids03:25
nisshhis03:25
nisshhwhat do you think?03:25
nisshhthis way people would be like "Ah, itll be ready in my language soon"03:25
godbykI think right now you get taken to a page that says, 'Your translation is incomplete. If you want to help translating, go here.'  But we could add a progress bar to that page, probably.03:26
nisshhrather than "Awww, they wont ever produce it in my lang"03:26
godbykit might also be handy to adjust the front page of our site to have an area for news and notices.03:26
nisshhgodbyk: ah cool, its just a small thing that may get more people interested and spread the word03:27
godbykso we can tell people what we're working on right now and what we need help with.03:27
nisshhgodbyk: yea!03:27
godbykwe also need to write more instructions for helping us.03:27
godbykright now we get them set up with the right software, but then we don't tell them what to do next.03:28
humphreybcyeah03:28
nisshhyep03:28
nisshhbig issue i think03:28
nisshhmeeting this saturday then humphreybc?03:28
humphreybchumphreybc: yea03:29
nisshhhumphreybc: are you talking to yourself again?03:29
nisshh:)03:29
humphreybcoops03:30
humphreybci'm trying to play guitar now :P03:30
nisshhi thought you played drums?03:30
humphreybcand guitar03:30
humphreybcand trumpet03:30
nisshhright, i play guuitar too03:30
nisshhelectric03:31
nisshhnot very good though03:31
godbykI used to play low brass instruments (tuba, baritone, euphonium, sousaphone) and the keyboard bass.03:31
nisshhwindsor_: hey dude03:32
windsor_hi nisshh!03:32
humphreybcgodbyk I can picture you playing low brass03:32
nisshhhehe03:32
godbyk:)03:32
windsor_about the second bug I filed today...I guess I didn't do my homework before posting a bug.  In US Grammar the punctuation IS placed within the quotation marks03:33
windsor_sorry guys03:34
nisshhim watching all 12 seasons of pokemon again, its 110GB!03:34
nisshhwindsor_: no probs, just mark it as invalid03:34
godbykwindsor_: No worries.03:35
godbykwindsor_: We should've pointed out that we're playing by US rules.03:35
godbykThere are times when we break those rules, too.03:35
nisshhgodbyk: that would have been nice to do ages ago, considering all the spam i have got about it03:35
godbyk(Especially the punctuation-inside-quotation-marks rule.. it makes things confusing sometimes.)03:35
windsor_yeah, ever since grade school I've been going with certain rules that may differ from that used in the Manual03:35
nisshh:)03:35
windsor_=D03:36
godbykAh, nisshh, you needed something to read anyway! :)03:36
nisshhgodbyk: there are at least 10-15 comma bugs reported on lp now, hehe03:36
nisshhgodbyk: meh03:36
nisshhall of them for the first 15 pages too03:37
windsor_yeah, I saw03:37
windsor_about the Maverick manual.. is it planned to add new stuff as the dev build continues?03:39
nisshharhrhahrah, keep hitting control + x on my keyboard03:40
nisshhwindsor_: yes03:40
windsor_ok great03:40
nisshhwindsor_: we plan to keep up with changes made in each new release of ubuntu03:40
windsor_I see03:41
windsor_can't wait for Maverick, RGBA graphics by default hee hee XD03:43
windsor_so the whole manual is written according to US Grammatical Rules, what about spelling?03:45
godbykSpelling is US, too.03:46
godbykWe do have a UK English translation, though. :)03:47
windsor_ok03:47
nisshhand AU is based on UK03:47
nisshhwell, mostly03:47
windsor_ok, I'll go with US Style for everything then03:48
windsor_thx for the clarification XD03:50
windsor_bye everybody03:53
nisshhcya03:54
godbykSee ya, windsor_03:54
nisshhgodbyk: hows the style guide coming along?03:54
godbykWhat do you guys think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/584452?03:55
godbykI'm not particularly interested in the fact that Ubuntu is Debian-based, and I our 'getting started' readers are either.  But some people in the community can get picky about such things.03:55
godbyknisshh: very, very slowly.03:55
godbykI'm going to ping Ilya about it some this week. See if we can get started on it.03:56
humphreybcfuck i hate barre chords03:56
nisshhhumphreybc: lol03:56
humphreybcmy index finger just will not bend that way03:57
nisshhhumphreybc: how long have you been playing guitar03:57
nisshhgodbyk: yea, cool im going to go over it now and have a look03:57
humphreybcabout 2 years. I usually can get by with traditional chord shapes, which is what I usually play03:57
humphreybc(and i've got pretty good at them)03:57
humphreybcbut when it comes to fucking F#m03:58
nisshhhumphreybc: try some ACDC or powderfinger, they have songs that are just single note stuff, or power chords03:58
nisshhhumphreybc: you need to have long spidery fingers to do F#m, its evil!03:59
nisshhgodbyk: havent actaully read the style guide since the original 2-page version was made03:59
nisshhgodbyk: about that bug, why should we not say ubuntu is debian-based?04:00
epkugelmassgodbyk, i know we're both working on the lucid-e2 branch right now. i'm trying to be careful not to step on your toes.04:02
godbykepkugelmass: no worries.04:03
godbykif you run into a conflict, you can run 'bzr uncommit' to uncommit your stuff, then 'bzr pull', and 'bzr commit' to recommit your work.04:03
godbyknisshh: well, we mention it earlier in the sentence already.04:03
nisshhgodbyk: right, well id leave it there if its applicaple to mention it twice04:04
godbyknisshh: have a look at the context of it in the PDF and tell me what you think.04:06
nisshhgodbyk: ok04:07
godbyknisshh: Add your arguments to the bug and ping me if you still think it should be Debian-based. :)04:08
nisshhok, ok ill do it properly04:08
godbyk(only because I already made the change and resolved the bug.) :)04:08
nisshhgodbyk: arh, your too quick for me!04:09
nisshhgodbyk: which page is that on?04:10
godbykI'm not sure.  Search for 'Debian-based'04:11
godbykI think it was in the learning more chapter.04:11
nisshhgodbyk: i dont really know yet, but i read each part 3 times each and i cant say it is that bad, but maybe im wrong04:17
godbykI hear ya.04:17
godbyklots of nit-picking going on.04:17
godbyk(which I'm okay with.)04:17
nisshhhehe04:19
nisshhaw, nice, a guy just thanked me for the manual in #ubuntu-au-chat04:19
godbykcool04:19
nisshhapparently this guy just gave this manual to heaps of people and now they all use lucid!04:21
godbykprinted copies or just the pdf?04:21
nisshhpdf apparently04:22
nisshhgeez would have been expensive buying 25+ copies of the manual04:22
godbyktrue.04:24
epkugelmass20 bugs triaged/fixed in 1 hour!04:24
epkugelmassnice work everyone =]04:25
nisshhepkugelmass: nice!04:25
epkugelmassi actually really enjoy bug crushing sessions. very satisfying04:25
nisshhgodbyk: he says the manual was *exactly* what they needed, they apparently said it was the *perfect* thing to get them started04:26
epkugelmassnisshh, I'm behind here. Mind recapping? Who said what?04:26
godbykawesome04:27
nisshhepkugelmass: hehe, you just missed it, a guy in #ubuntu-au-chat told me the story of how he had just given over 25 people the manual and they had all just started using lucid straight away04:30
epkugelmassWOW!04:30
nisshhi know, thats what i said04:32
nisshhfreakin amazing huh?04:32
humphreybcgnarly04:40
epkugelmasshumphreybc, any word on the release dates or milestones for e2? july is coming up awfully quickly04:40
humphreybcyeah, tell me about it!04:41
humphreybcnot sure really04:41
humphreybcwe don't have alphas or anything for e204:41
epkugelmassdo we want to have an RC?04:42
humphreybci think the only thing we need is a writing freeze04:42
epkugelmassi feel like we should have at least one public testing release before we publish04:42
epkugelmasswe could combine the two.04:42
humphreybcyeah04:43
epkugelmassbut i would recommend a writing freeze (beta) then an RC, then release04:43
nisshhepkugelmass: agreed04:43
godbykwhat's the writing freeze do for us?04:44
godbykI mean if we stop writing, there's nothing else to do, right?04:44
Zeikeproof, fix bugs04:44
epkugelmassnisshh, humphreybc, we could rename the current e2 milestone to 'beta'. that will maintain the appropriate milestone targeting on the bugs. we can then add two more milestones04:44
epkugelmassgodbyk, it gives us something to release to the translators and our helpful bug catchers in the community04:45
humphreybcthere's actually no rush for lucid e204:45
humphreybcwe've got 5 years to do it lol04:45
epkugelmasshaha, very funny -----04:46
nisshhhumphreybc: haha, no 3 because its about the desktop04:46
ZeikeIs there a planned number of editions or lucid, or just however many that get done?04:47
Zeikeeditions for lucid*04:47
humphreybcjust two04:47
humphreybcthis is the only time we'll update the lucid one, because we didn't have that much time for the first one04:48
godbykepkugelmass: I think the translators are far enough behind that a writing freeze for e2 won't help them.04:50
godbykAs long as 'writing freeze' does not mean 'string freeze', I'm okay with it.04:50
godbykIf 'writing freeze' means 'no new content, only bug fixes', then I'm all for it.04:51
epkugelmassgodbyk, pardon me for being daft, but what 'first issue' are you addressing here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/58449204:52
godbykepkugelmass: Great question -- I have no idea!04:53
epkugelmasslmao. ok, figure it out, or I'm marking the bug fixed.04:54
godbykI thought it had said something about the /home/ubuntu-manual text -- where 'ubuntu-manual' should be something like 'username' instead. But I must have conflated a couple bugs in my head.04:54
Zeikegodbyk: I think I fixed that bug earlier today04:54
godbykZeike: okay.04:54
godbykI have way to many bug report emails.04:54
godbykI think my brain is fried.04:54
Zeikewhile we're on that section, any thoughts on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/58477204:55
godbykZeike: I passed that one by because we need to write material for that section (or remove it).04:56
ZeikeI'll start writing something up then04:58
Zeikeis there a style guide in the bzr branch, or is the one linked to in the topic the most recent?04:59
godbykthe one linked to in the topic will be the most recent.05:01
Zeikethanks05:03
ZeikeWhats the standard for typesetting a directory? \code?05:54
godbykZeike: \code will work for now.06:00
ubuntujenkinsmorning07:10
ubuntujenkins181 bug mail messages07:10
nisshhanyone working on the e2 branch?07:28
nisshhgodbyk: are you? ^07:28
nisshhGODBYK!!!!!!07:30
godbyk-androidNope. I'm in bed reading.07:31
nisshhah, ok thats why i had to yell07:32
nisshh:)07:32
godbyk-androidYep. :-)07:32
nisshhok, im just adding the glossary stuff from the spreadsheet07:33
nisshhscratch that, im installing texlive, AGAIN!07:35
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: what version of ubuntu are you usung?07:36
ubuntujenkinsbecause we have a lucid ppa07:39
nisshhoh, we do?07:41
nisshhubuntujenkins: with texlive in it?07:41
ubuntujenkinsyep07:41
nisshhim running lucid, i have been since feb this year07:41
ubuntujenkinswe only had it last month i made it07:41
nisshhah ok07:42
ubuntujenkinsjust getting the instructions07:42
nisshhi heard about it but didnt know it was ready07:42
nisshhwhats the ppa called07:42
ubuntujenkinshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/438685/ should be all you need to know07:42
nisshhwow, thats a much smaller download than the official script07:44
ubuntujenkinsnot sure as some stuff comes form the lucid repo.07:44
ubuntujenkinsI will work this summer to make it for 9.10 etc07:45
nisshhyea07:46
thorwilmorning!08:11
thorwilgodbyk: didn't you say something about the list being unsubscribed from bugs?08:12
thorwilah, nm got to Ben's mail about that, after deleting millions of mails08:14
thorwil:)08:14
nisshhubuntujenkins: ok, i installed tex from the ppa, and i just ran the install-pkgs script from the bzr branch, but it refuses to continue since it thinks i have the repo version of tex09:00
nisshhubuntujenkins: nah its good now, no worries09:01
nisshhWOW, the word 'distribution' is mentioned nearly 15 times in chapter 909:37
thorwilif the word distribution is distributed with such frequency, is it at least distributed evenly?09:41
nisshhthorwil: nope, lol09:52
nisshhits used in almost every sentence for about 4 paragraphs09:53
nisshhgodbyk: if your up can you please remind me how to use \gls{} with other commands?10:32
nisshhgodbyk-android: ^^^^10:32
nisshhnvm10:38
nisshhi really do hope no one is hacking on the e2 branch right now10:41
nisshhright, the glossary is now getting there10:51
ubuntujenkinsyea nisshh the script is not needed if you use the ppa11:23
Sursthello :)13:02
Surstis there a particular reason, why the numbers in expressions like "eth0" are written in mathematical mode? ("eth$0$")?13:03
c7phey godbyk14:07
nisshhc7p: i think godbyk is asleep14:11
c7pnisshh: ok :)14:12
ChrisWoollardgodbyk: ping16:20
godbykChrisWoollard: pong16:21
ChrisWoollardHello16:21
godbykMorning.16:21
ChrisWoollardcan you have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/58403516:21
ChrisWoollardand confirm the answer to the question about po files16:22
godbyksure. just a moment16:22
ChrisWoollardThank you.16:22
godbykI did change the settings to NOT import the po files.16:23
godbyk(It was suggested that that would fix the problem we had earlier.)16:24
ChrisWoollardCool. I will update the bug16:28
godbyk'kay.16:29
ChrisWoollardThank You16:30
godbyknp16:30
godbykI'll subscribe to the bug so I can keep an eye on it.16:30
ChrisWoollardlovely. thanks16:34
ubuntujenkinsooo quickshot is on the full circle podcast16:34
godbykubuntujenkins: yeah.16:45
godbykthe second part of humphreybc's interview is in there and he's mostly talking about the tools/software we use (and write).16:45
ubuntujenkinsyea i have listened to it now16:46
* popey wonders if ubuntujenkins skipped past the good bits to humphreybc's interview ;)17:17
godbyklol17:17
godbyklike the parts about me and how awesome I am? :-)17:17
popeythat bit was corrupted in my download17:18
ubuntujenkinsno popey I have listened to  it all so far i am 1:04:50 so far.17:18
ubuntujenkinsmight skip the key note as i have heard it before17:18
popeyapologies for rambling on17:18
ubuntujenkinsno it was good17:18
popeywe had a right time recording it over skype17:18
ubuntujenkinsi bet i was on a mates podcast it was cool17:19
c7phey godbyk17:25
godbykHey, c7p17:25
c7pgodbyk: There are three bug reporters on the greek manual (e1). Do they have a chance to participate on the competition or it is only for english manual e2 ?17:27
godbykc7p: Good question. I don't know. It's Ben's competition; you'll have to ask him. :)17:31
c7pgodbyk: right! Have you checked the text about the font that you were telling me the other day? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/22/%23ubuntu-manual.html#t21:4217:33
godbykThe Bera Mono bit in the colophon? Not yet.17:34
c7pso there is no text for translation17:36
godbyknot yet.17:37
c7pgodbyk: Should I add or remove blank pages so the number of the first page of a chapter is prime number (=> left pages)?17:46
godbykc7p: Nope, no need.17:46
c7pgodbyk: ok as an editor i can tell that the job is finished (there are only 7-10 minor bug fixes that will be done today). What else remains ?17:47
godbykc7p: I'll have a glance through it to figure out what's left. We need to get the license worked out. (I'll contact Ilya about this.)  I'll get you the new text for the colophon in a couple hours.17:48
godbykOh, and I'll harass the project leads about the whole credits thing again, too.17:49
c7pgodbyk: what about license ? I don't remember if i have told, topo made the license-el.tex file17:50
godbykc7p: Did topo translate it himself? If not, where did he get the license from?17:51
godbykWe have to use specific license text from CC.17:51
c7pyes it's from the site, let me find the link17:51
godbykThanks.17:52
godbykI'll have Ilya double-check it.17:53
topografoshey all17:55
topografosthe translation is from http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/gr/legalcode17:55
godbyktopografos: Thanks!  I'll check with Ilya to make sure that's the license we're supposed to use.17:57
topografosgreat17:57
godbyktopografos: When you get a chance, add the ubuntu-manual-el.tex file to the repository.18:33
topografosc7p has the up-to-date file. I will let him now, as he is currently not online18:35
godbyktopografos: cool. thanks!18:36
c7pgodbyk: ping20:59
godbykc7p: pong21:19
c7pI have found a bug on index21:20
c7pgodbyk: there are some entries that are mentioned twice, because there "subsections" in index e.g applications, command line21:22
godbykc7p: right. that's okay.21:22
godbyk(well, okay = intentional)21:22
godbykall the applications and command-line apps are listed twice.21:23
topografosit's a feature, not a bug :)21:23
c7pgodbyk: ok can i translate the words application and command line21:23
godbykonce under their own name, and again under the 'applications' or 'command-line apps' heading21:23
godbykc7p: er.. wow. good point.21:23
c7ptopografos: right :d21:23
godbykc7p: you can send me the translations and I'll set it up.21:23
c7pok, and one last think before I send you the tex file. Can you put the revision stuff on sepperate lines ?21:25
c7pactually the rev_date after rev_number21:26
godbykc7p: I'll take a look at it, but it's possible, yeah. (if I do, I'll have to send you an updated compile script)21:26
c7pgodbyk: i am composing the mail now, appart from the main tex file, do you need and license-el.tex ?21:28
godbykgo ahead and send it to me.21:28
godbykI'm going to have Ilya look into the licensing issue when he's next online.21:28
godbyk(He's been in contact with the Creative Commons lawyers and they've figured out what they want us to do -- I've just forgotten the details.)21:28
c7pgodbyk: message has been sent :D21:38
godbyk'kay. thanks!21:38
c7pI thank you too :P21:39
c7pgodbyk for anything new don't hesitate to send me an email !21:41
c7pnight all21:42
dutchiegodbyk: work out what was going on in bugs.ubuntu-manual.org?21:42
godbykdutchie: I got the localhost one to work, but not via apache21:42
dutchiehmm21:47
dutchieis there anything in ~/.launchpadlib/credentials?21:47
godbyk/home/godbyk/.launchpadlib/api.staging.launchpad.net/credentials/ubuntu-manual-bug-form21:49
dutchiehmm21:49
dutchiewhat about in the logs?21:49
godbykwhat logs?21:50
dutchieapache logs21:50
godbykjust "Premature end of script headers"21:51
dutchiehow odd21:54
dutchiemay be easier to CNAME bugs.u-m.o to my vps21:55
godbykno doubt.21:55
godbykI can set up a CNAME if you tell me what to point at.21:55
dutchiehaven't got anything yet :)21:55
godbyk'kay.21:56
godbykif you set something up, lemme know.21:56
dutchiemay do tomorrow21:57
godbyk'kay.21:58
ChrisWoollardQuick question...... Is the PPA disabled?22:52
ubuntujenkinsChrisWoollard: what ppa?22:52
ubuntujenkinsthe latex one?22:52
ChrisWoollardyes22:53
ChrisWoollardI thought a ppa was set up for installing all the tex live 2009 etc22:53
ubuntujenkinsit is and it is there. It only works on lucid22:54
ubuntujenkinssorry i am confused do you have it and have a problem with it?22:54
ubuntujenkinsother wise the instructions are http://paste.ubuntu.com/438685/22:55
ChrisWoollardIs that the same are the one listed at https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/+archive/beginnersmanual22:57
ubuntujenkinsno thats an old one its this one https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/+archive/ubuntu-manual (the one below the one you clicked)22:57
ubuntujenkinsthe name was not sutible on the old one so we make a new ppa for latex22:58
ChrisWoollardoops22:58
ChrisWoollardthanks22:58
ubuntujenkinsno problem22:58
ubuntujenkinsjust copy the commands i pastebined22:58
ubuntujenkinsnight all23:00
ChrisWoollardthanks23:02
ChrisWoollardnight night ubuntujenkins23:02

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