| imbrandon | ok forgive my ignorance and being lazy for a moment if you will and will someone give me the 1 - 2 sentance explination as to what "Zeitgeist" as it pertains to gnome ? | 01:22 |
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| imbrandon | a program ? language ? abstration layer ? .... | 01:22 |
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| ScottK | Time sequenced activity history. | 02:14 |
| arand | imbrandon: awesomeness! (ScottK's answer is short and to the point), It's (afaik) a back-end that creates associations, time, program, place, activity, so that you later on could find out, say, what Kind of music you listened to whilst chatting with a particular person... Is one of the things it can do. | 02:47 |
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| imbrandon | ScottK / arand : ahh like a personal google, sorta | 03:13 |
| imbrandon | seems intrusive and expensive ... maybe i'm wrong | 03:13 |
| arand | imbrandon: Yea, but so is google And that has it's uses. | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | :) | 03:14 |
| amason_ | imbrandon: really up to you if you use it or not. | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | very true, just was curious i have seen alot of blogs about pieces of it lately but not much on what "it" was | 03:15 |
| imbrandon | something i can poke into more later ;) | 03:15 |
| * imbrandon yawns | 03:25 | |
| imbrandon | ugh i have code to write tonight but i just cant motivate myself | 03:25 |
| imbrandon | hum de dum | 03:25 |
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| BlackZ | how can I delete an old deactivated key from the ubuntu's keyserver? | 08:58 |
| jpds | BlackZ: That's impossible. | 08:59 |
| BlackZ | jpds: ok, BTW I have updated the key (e-mail), but I can still seen the old e-mail on ubuntu's keyserver, is that normal? | 09:01 |
| jpds | Did you remove the old email? | 09:01 |
| BlackZ | yeah | 09:01 |
| jpds | Yep, that's also impossible. | 09:01 |
| jpds | You can only add to keyservers, never remove. | 09:02 |
| BlackZ | jpds: also, I have signed some uploaded packages with the old key and e-mail, is that a problem? | 09:02 |
| jpds | Shouldn't be. | 09:03 |
| BlackZ | jpds: however that is updated in my launchpad's page | 09:03 |
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| arand | chrisccoulson: Hia, talked on friday, BitlBee.. got time over to sponsor Bug #581331 ? | 12:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 581331 in bitlbee (Ubuntu Karmic) "error message while trying to use my MSN account in bitlbee" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581331 | 12:22 |
| chrisccoulson | arand - oh yeah, sorry, i forgot about that one | 12:22 |
| chrisccoulson | has nobody else done it yet? | 12:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i will look at that in a bit | 12:22 |
| arand | chrisccoulson: Nope :( seems few sponsors are around here on the weekends, or they just didn't like me.. | 12:23 |
| BlackZ | arand: I'm sure your work will be sponsored soon, keep in mind you're in a queue :) | 12:28 |
| arand | BlackZ: Yea, true. # of bugs with patches are a hefty amount. | 12:33 |
| BlackZ | ara: I know and I think they will be sorted out ASAP | 12:34 |
| BlackZ | err, arand - sorry, ara | 12:34 |
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| BlackZ | arand: why is the bug still assigned to you? why is it "Fix Released" instead of "Confirmed", for example? | 12:43 |
| arand | BlackZ: Fixed in maverick with version 1.2.7, this is for hardy..lucid, what's the policy as far ass assignments go actually, I though, since I was "in charge" of packing the SVN fix, it would be appropriate, no? | 12:46 |
| arand | *as *thought | 12:47 |
| BlackZ | arand: since ~ubuntu-sponsors is subscribed, you have to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 12:50 |
| BlackZ | for example. "Do not assign a bug to anyone if it needs sponsorship." | 12:50 |
| BlackZ | s/./, | 12:52 |
| arand | BlackZ: Ah, hmm, I was going by that I've had been assigned to bugs (by others) in similar cases before. Right, so unassigning then. | 12:54 |
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| Migi32 | don't know if this is the right channel, but I would like to inform you that Boinc in the default repositories is horribly out of date, and that I'm forced to install the latest version manually | 13:15 |
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| kobrien | greetings. I packaged my app and it compiles fine. I just need to figure out how to get it to place the compiled files into /usr/bin and such. Do I do it in debian/rules? Please advise | 16:32 |
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| persia | kobrien: So, there's two ways to do it. If you're the upstream developer, it's best to do it in your build script, with an install rule. For example, `make install` | 16:52 |
| persia | If you're not upstream, you can work around a buggy set of build scripts with dh_install | 16:52 |
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| micahg | siretart: should I reassign the gxine bug to you? | 19:15 |
| micahg | siretart: wrapper looks fine I think it should go to maverick first though | 19:21 |
| lfaraone | One of my mails was flagged as possible spam to the mailing list. Shouldn't we set SpamAssassin to look kindly on GPG-signed mails? :) | 19:24 |
| siretart | micahg: feel free to do so. what about copying it from lucid-proposed to maverick? | 19:28 |
| siretart | how do ppl feel breaking maverick's ffmpeg at this point? ;-) | 19:31 |
| micahg | siretart: I currently cannot push packages yet. As for copying, idk what the current policy is, but I think that fixes are supposed to go into the devel release first again | 19:32 |
| micahg | siretart: what will break with ffmpeg? | 19:32 |
| siretart | micahg: upload ffmpeg 0.6 will probably break quite some applications that link against it | 19:33 |
| micahg | siretart: ah | 19:33 |
| siretart | no idea how severe the breakage will be, I did not do testbuilds | 19:33 |
| siretart | but I guess I should do so in any case. soon. | 19:33 |
| micahg | siretart: so, do you want me to find a sponsor for gxine, or do you want to push/ | 19:34 |
| siretart | I can do the upload later today | 19:35 |
| micahg | siretart: k, thanks, I'll reassign to you | 19:35 |
| micahg | siretart: I'll subscribe to the package to watch for regressions | 19:37 |
| siretart | great, thanks! | 19:37 |
| micahg | siretart: thanks for making the wrapper :) | 19:38 |
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| toabctl | hi | 20:14 |
| toabctl | i want to build a package with pbuilder but have a dependecy on a local package version. how to solve this? | 20:15 |
| tumbleweed | toabctl: easiest way around that is to create a simple local package repository | 20:16 |
| toabctl | ok | 20:17 |
| toabctl | thx | 20:17 |
| geser | or login into pbuilder, copy all needed files inside and build there manually | 20:17 |
| tumbleweed | yes, that's easier for once-off | 20:18 |
| geser | I do it when I need to do it only once (was too lazy to setup a repo for just one build) | 20:18 |
| toabctl | geser, where is the pbuilder .tgz file extracted? | 20:20 |
| toabctl | i got the following error when i use "pdebuild": Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies | 20:20 |
| geser | usually below /var/cache/pbuilder/build/ (see the output when calling pbuilder) | 20:20 |
| toabctl | geser, /var/cache/pbuilder/build is empty | 20:21 |
| geser | yes as it gets cleaned up after pbuilder has finished | 20:21 |
| toabctl | Reading task descriptions... | 20:21 |
| toabctl | Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies | 20:21 |
| toabctl | E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed. | 20:21 |
| toabctl | I: Copying back the cached apt archive contents | 20:21 |
| toabctl | I: unmounting dev/pts filesystem | 20:21 |
| toabctl | I: unmounting proc filesystem | 20:21 |
| toabctl | I: cleaning the build env | 20:21 |
| toabctl | I: removing directory /var/cache/pbuilder/build//11519 and its subdirectories | 20:21 |
| toabctl | geser, tumbleweed : that's my output. i try to build a new version of syncevolution for DIST=sid under ubuntu lucid | 20:22 |
| geser | "pbuilder login" and you get a directory below /var/cache/pbuilder/build as long as don't exit the pbuilder | 20:22 |
| toabctl | geser, ah. that works. thanks. and do you know what i can do against the error? | 20:23 |
| geser | check which dependency couldn't get resolved (and why) and fix it | 20:24 |
| toabctl | pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libsynthesis-dev (>= 3.4.0.5~) but it is not going to be installed. | 20:25 |
| toabctl | geser, what does the 4.3.0.5~ mean (especially the ~) ? | 20:25 |
| geser | this is a versioned dependency on libsynthesis-dev. The package needs a version greater than the specified | 20:26 |
| geser | and the ~ has a special meaning in Debian version numbers (it sorts below any other char) | 20:27 |
| tumbleweed | the ~ allows it to be satisfied by a backport. Backports have ~ to make 3.4.0.5~bpo a lower version htan 3.4.0.5 | 20:28 |
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| toabctl | hm. then i don't understand the error. libsynthesis-dev is available in version 3.4.0.5 in debian sid. | 20:29 |
| geser | login into your sid pbuilder and try to install it. don't know about aptitude, but apt doesn't tell the real error (down the dependency chain) but only that a dependency of the package you want installed, can't get installed | 20:31 |
| toabctl | geser, i had to do a "apt-get update" before i can install the package. pbuilder doesn't do this automatically? | 20:33 |
| geser | no, "pbuilder update" does it (updates the whole base.tgz including the Packages files) | 20:33 |
| toabctl | ah. "pbuilder update" does this. | 20:34 |
| toabctl | geser, thanks!:) | 20:34 |
| tumbleweed | you can add a pbuilder hook to apt-get update before each build | 20:35 |
| tumbleweed | there's such a script in the examples directory, IIRC | 20:35 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: ping | 20:36 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: pong | 20:44 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: am i allowed to do the fakesyncs (bug #512430) under my name? this would be faster for me. | 20:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512430 in geronimo-jpa-3.0-spec (Ubuntu) "Fake sync geronimo packages (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512430 | 20:51 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I'm not happy for hearing this. | 20:52 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: the alternative would be patch dch | 20:52 |
| bdrung | dch is not able to sponsor a changelog | 20:52 |
| bdrung | but i am not a perl hacker | 20:53 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: you know, I need these uploads this time. I'll be owe to you. | 20:54 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you need them? | 20:54 |
| geser | bdrung: DEBFULLNAME="foo bar" DEBEMAIL="foo@baz" dch ... doesn't work? | 20:54 |
| persia | Nobody ever needs uploads. | 20:54 |
| fabrice_sp | bdrung, I had to add a -k option to the ack-sync script to pass the signing key to syncpackage | 20:55 |
| persia | Upload count isn't especially meaningful, especially if those are from syncs. | 20:55 |
| ari-tczew | yea, same method like uploading merges | 20:56 |
| bdrung | geser: DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL should be only set for this command. let me look at the code... | 20:56 |
| geser | and if one needs those fakesyncs for the sponsored upload count, then I'm not sure if one is ready to apply | 20:57 |
| bdrung | geser: he has done enough (sponsored 40 - 50 packages for him) | 20:57 |
| geser | it was more generally speaking | 20:59 |
| fabrice_sp | bdrung, should I push the change or you have something similar locally? | 20:59 |
| geser | and in this case the few not counted fakesyncs shouldn't matter | 20:59 |
| bdrung | fabrice_sp: you can push - i have no local changes | 20:59 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 21:00 |
| ari-tczew | geser: I could be late for tomorrow's meeting, because we have flood in country and can be public communication problems. | 21:04 |
| ari-tczew | s/geser/persia | 21:04 |
| * micahg hopes they get to my item in the meeting :) | 21:06 | |
| geser | micahg: the "Mozilla Uploaders Package Set"? it's on the agenda | 21:07 |
| micahg | geser: yes, but the mail to the list wasn't approved till Friday so I was worried that it might not be on the actual agenda | 21:08 |
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| micahg | \sh: zf 1.10.5 most likely tomorrow, so I guess you don't have to push 1.10.4 | 21:21 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: what's next about fakesyncs? | 21:31 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i have to improve the syncpackage script and use your bug for testing | 21:55 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: okay! fine! | 21:56 |
| SpamapS | guidance for naming a perl package.. if the CPAN module is Memcached::libmemcached ... the package still must be named this rather silly name: libmemcached-libmemcached-perl .. yes? | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | I have seen libxml-libxml-perl in the archive | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | So there is precedent, even if it is silly | 23:16 |
| SpamapS | I actually like it | 23:18 |
| SpamapS | I've installed many a perl module just by typing the transformed name after apt-get install.. its like a pleasnt surprise "yes, this is going to work today" | 23:19 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: libmemcached-libmemcached-perl is correct. If you want to get it into Ubuntu, it would probably be easier to talk to the pkg-perl people in Debian since they sponsor new perl stuff all the time. | 23:21 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: will do. | 23:25 |
| arand | In metacity, (and other gnome packages?) If you add a patch, should it be added before 90_autotools.patch and 99_ltmain_as-needed.patch in the series? | 23:37 |
| pochu | arand: yes | 23:42 |
| pochu | 90_autotools is to regenerate autotools file because of other patches, so it goes last, and 99_ltmain_as-needed goes after 90_autotools because it modifies a file autogenerated by 90_autotools, so if it went before, it would have no effect | 23:44 |
| arand | pochu: aha, hm, is this documented anywhere? (news to me at least) | 23:44 |
| arand | pochu: Right, it makes a lot of sense with the numbering, although, I've so far simply followed the ubuntu packaging guide by the letter, and used "quilt push -a && quilt new" regardless (slightly annoyed that some evil person had already taken all numbers in the patch prefixes :D), do over and do right, it seems... | 23:51 |
| pochu | you don't want to do that in these cases then :) | 23:54 |
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