bobby | Anybody know if 3.7 is in Synaptic yet? I have the daily PPA, but I can't find 3.7 in synaptic, and I can't make from the .tar.bz2 file from mozilla :s | 01:39 |
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bobby | Wait, no I finally found it :) | 01:39 |
micahg | bobby: still broke, should be fixed in about 6 hrs | 01:41 |
bobby | No, I finally found it | 01:41 |
bobby | It is there | 01:41 |
bobby | Oh yeah, did you guys know that there is no make file in the 3.7a5 .tar.bz2 source? | 01:41 |
micahg | bobby: it's generated | 01:42 |
bobby | ? Didn't work for me when I tried to build it earlier... | 01:42 |
ddecator | micahg: i was just about to work on the patch that i want to try and fix, but it looks like there may be a new issue with the latest songbird build, so i'm going to look into it, but i probably won't have it done tonight | 05:09 |
micahg | ddecator: k, np | 05:11 |
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BUGabundo_remote | sleep check,clothes check,Monday start ohhhh | 09:07 |
BUGabundo_remote | fta: http://www.google.com/buzz/117086801193576801205/d57ErVAs8yH/Testing-the-Buzz-API-in-Gwibber | 09:12 |
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gnomefreak | it seems that opening thunderbird and irssi causes irssi to blink and move around <- very odd | 12:17 |
gnomefreak | also tb has no (close/min/max buttons | 12:17 |
gnomefreak | ) | 12:17 |
* gnomefreak going to upgrade other box to Lucid and see if i cant work with it, maybe email will have to wait a day or 3 | 12:21 | |
nikolam | hi. anyone knows how to stop that moronic flashing of download window in taskbar | 12:34 |
nikolam | after finished download | 12:35 |
nikolam | it continues to flash forever, | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_remote | fta: what was that link to a code proj for upstream bugs? | 13:33 |
BUGabundo_remote | http://code.google.com/p/youtube-html5-chrome/wiki/UpstreamBugs | 13:34 |
BUGabundo_remote | d | 13:34 |
BUGabundo_remote | fta: http://videojs.com/ awesome | 13:46 |
fta | BUGabundo_remote, for me, flash is no longer usable. http://paste.ubuntu.com/438769/ | 14:54 |
fta | could be related to gdk, like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/584287 | 14:54 |
fta | chrisccoulson, are you aware of an upstream bug for that? or better, a fix in gtk trunk?? | 14:55 |
micahg | bug 584959 | 14:55 |
fta | the bot is dead here, it works in other channels though | 14:56 |
* micahg will go request a reload | 14:56 | |
fta | ubot2 is fine, 4 is not | 14:56 |
fta | bug 584959 | 15:02 |
fta | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/584287 | 15:02 |
fta | naaah | 15:02 |
BUGabundo_remote | aha | 15:04 |
* BUGabundo_remote kicks the bot | 15:04 | |
BUGabundo_remote | bug 584959 | 15:04 |
BUGabundo_remote | ubot4: bug 584959 | 15:04 |
* BUGabundo_remote kicks harder | 15:04 | |
fta | bug 584959 | 15:06 |
micahg | bug 584959 | 15:14 |
micahg | ubot4: wake up | 15:15 |
ubot4 | Factoid 'wake up' not found | 15:15 |
micahg | bug 584959 | 15:15 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, 3.6.4 BUILD5 :) | 15:19 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, i will get that in to the u-m-s PPA shortly | 15:26 |
fta | micahg, any plan to fix the dailies? got several requests from users | 15:32 |
micahg | fta: which ones? ff37 is fixed now | 15:33 |
fta | (i can't forward atm, evolution is crashing) | 15:33 |
micahg | ff36, I was waiting for last build to get into maverick before updataing | 15:33 |
micahg | tb31 and tb32 early next month | 15:34 |
micahg | bug 584959 | 15:34 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 584959 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "flashplugin crashes in chromium with RGBA enabled (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584959 | 15:34 |
chrisccoulson | fta / micahg - it looks like they just need building with --disable-ipdl-tests | 15:34 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: the dailies? | 15:35 |
chrisccoulson | the new test suite doesn't seem to work properly | 15:35 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah | 15:35 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: are the tests totally broke now? | 15:35 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - it's just the new test suite for the IPC stuff | 15:35 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm wondering if I should file bugs upstream | 15:35 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i wasn't sure whether the test suite was meant to work just yet | 15:36 |
chrisccoulson | (it doesn't even compile) | 15:36 |
fta | micahg, yep, looks like my flash bug. but it's gtk related, nothing i can do and the desktop team doesn't seem to be motivated :( | 15:37 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: well, it's a stable branch, I think everything should work | 15:37 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: when you tag build5 can you disable the tests and I'll try to get a patch upstream this weekend maybe | 15:38 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - the tests are already disabled there by virtue of them being disabled by default upstream. i'm just wondering if the build now defaults to --enable-ipdl-tests in 3.6.5 when you don't explicitly disable them | 15:39 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: yes :) | 15:40 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, we have a flag to enable :) | 15:41 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - oh, the dailies are building with --enable-ipdl-tests set explicitly | 15:41 |
chrisccoulson | that's my error there - i added some logic in debian/rules for enabling/disabling that flag, and then intended to comment it out when i realised the tests didn't work | 15:42 |
chrisccoulson | but i didn't comment enough out ;) | 15:42 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: the flag makes sense and worked fine until recently :) | 15:44 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: can you give me a lucid status for bug 572018 | 15:45 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 572018 in enigmail-locales (Ubuntu) "enigmail-locales weren't updated for 1.0.1 enigmail release (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 70)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572018 | 15:45 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - done | 15:47 |
chrisccoulson | fta - the dailies should build again on the next run | 15:47 |
fta | chrisccoulson, thanks | 15:47 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks | 15:47 |
fta | chrisccoulson, do you know who could help for the gtk/rgba bug? | 15:47 |
chrisccoulson | fta - i'm not sure. possibly bratsche might be able to help | 15:47 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: oops, you might want to look over that 3.6 branch change again :) | 15:48 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - how come? | 15:49 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: you left the else at the end ;) | 15:49 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - that's intentional - that belongs to the ifeq which is outside of the comment block | 15:49 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, my mistake, that comment after the if got me :) | 15:50 |
chrisccoulson | heh, no worries | 15:50 |
micahg | uh oh, xulrunner dropped 2.3MB in installed size :( | 15:51 |
gnomefreak | grub is backwards now :( | 16:55 |
micahg | burg? | 16:56 |
gnomefreak | :) i updated karmic -> lucid and now lucid kernel is the first one nad maverick is the second one it should be other way around | 16:56 |
micahg | gnomefreak: it could be it installs the newest one first | 16:57 |
gnomefreak | yeah that is what i was thinking but i think i is related to marking all disks on grub setup | 16:58 |
gnomefreak | s/i/it | 16:58 |
* gnomefreak can worry about that tomorrow, today is another big issue | 16:59 | |
gnomefreak | ok hopfully i will be here without having to kill -9 anything | 17:00 |
gnomefreak76 | i think im going to evo or claws. me+tb3=alot of problems one being i cant use tb3 + anything at same time. that makes both useless | 17:03 |
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micahg | gnomefreak: there seem to be some issues with TB3 + cairo 1.8.10 | 17:04 |
micahg | gnomefreak: are you crashing? | 17:05 |
gnomefreak | micahg: no just no way to close it and terminal or whatever i am running with it flashes to foreground and back to background | 17:05 |
gnomefreak | makes both useless. not sure why i lost the window controls on tb3 | 17:06 |
gnomefreak | cant use file->quit since the flashing prevents me from being able to open menu for more than 1 sec | 17:07 |
micahg | gnomefreak: what video carD? | 17:07 |
micahg | gnomefreak: bug 564011 | 17:08 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 564011 in iceweasel (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Thunderbird 3.0.4 windowing issues (Lucid Lynx) (affects: 12) (dups: 2) (heat: 82)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564011 | 17:08 |
gnomefreak | nvidia 6200 | 17:08 |
gnomefreak | thanks looking | 17:08 |
micahg | gnomefreak: do you get the same issues in Seamonkey? | 17:09 |
gnomefreak | same thing happens in firefox | 17:11 |
gnomefreak | not sure if SM yet. kind of scared to test it | 17:11 |
gnomefreak | micahg: same in SM2 | 17:12 |
gnomefreak | epiphany works | 17:12 |
micahg | gnomefreak: more cairo fallout it seems :( I should have just used in source + our patch for Lucid .... | 17:13 |
gnomefreak | im leaning towards it being more of an xul bug | 17:13 |
micahg | gnomefreak: well, xul 191 + cairo 1.8.10 | 17:13 |
micahg | gnomefreak: is it the same as the bug I showed you or different? | 17:14 |
gnomefreak | you want me to add xul191 to bug? | 17:14 |
micahg | gnomefreak: no, it's not an issue in archive w/xul191 | 17:14 |
gnomefreak | it seems the same but i need to finish reading it | 17:14 |
micahg | only Lucid is affect as it has cairo 1.8.10 | 17:15 |
gnomefreak | micahg: seems by first comment it is not the same my menus are there just the app doesnt stay in foreground long enough to do anything | 17:15 |
gnomefreak | maverick as well with daily builds | 17:16 |
gnomefreak | oh and i dont use compiz or anything like it | 17:16 |
gnomefreak | micahg: im missing the window controls on top right boarder i do have file and rest of menus but it flashes to background and foreground within 1 sec or less so cant keep a menu open | 17:18 |
micahg | gnomefreak: weird, I'm curious, could you see if an upstream build does the same? | 17:18 |
gnomefreak | yeah ill test with ff if it still happens than its safe to say it will with sm and tb | 17:19 |
micahg | gnomefreak: ff36 is xul192 | 17:19 |
gnomefreak | so is tb i thought | 17:20 |
micahg | gnomefreak: no, tb3 is xul191 as is SM2 | 17:20 |
gnomefreak | micahg: well it happens on all 3 here | 17:20 |
micahg | ugh | 17:21 |
micahg | gnomefreak: any other GTK apps? | 17:21 |
gnomefreak | so i dont think that the xul version matters unless its a problem in 191 and hasnt been fixed anywhere | 17:21 |
gnomefreak | micahg: no not so far | 17:21 |
micahg | gnomefreak: ff37 daily also? | 17:21 |
gnomefreak | ill check. webkit works all webkit works it seems | 17:21 |
micahg | gnomefreak: yeah, so check an upstream build so we can know if it's a system lib issue or an upstream issue | 17:21 |
micahg | bbiab | 17:22 |
gnomefreak | 3.7 as well :( | 17:22 |
* gnomefreak goes for upstream 3.6 | 17:22 | |
* gnomefreak be back as well, need a smoke | 17:24 | |
gnomefreak | epiphany started doing it when download was done | 17:28 |
gnomefreak | that means not a xul bug? | 17:28 |
gnomefreak | 02:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1) is the card | 17:30 |
gnomefreak | cant get upstream to run. sh run-mozilla.sh and run-mozilla.sh do not work but the file is there | 17:32 |
gnomefreak | run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute . | 17:37 |
gnomefreak | well that was new. running from CLI i lose all panels and firefox but term is only thing showing and it is still blinking | 17:40 |
gnomefreak | happens in safemode as well. i need to figure out why sh isnt working | 17:41 |
micahg | k, bbiab, will think about it | 17:42 |
gnomefreak | micahg: before you go how do i run the upstream version | 17:42 |
ddecator | if you download the tarball, extract it and run the firefox file in there | 17:43 |
gnomefreak | ddecator: that wont run the installed version? | 17:43 |
ddecator | gnomefreak: not when i've done testing. you just cd into the dir and run ./firefox (with the ending if there is one, can't remember...) | 17:44 |
gnomefreak | gnomefreak@Development:~/firefox/firefox$ ./firefox opens it but still does the same thing. problem i am seeeing is it is now causing the panels to disappear no firefox is shown but the other windows i have open blink | 17:46 |
* gnomefreak should have stayed in bed today. be back in a few hcanging laundry to drier | 17:47 | |
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* gnomefreak guesses no need to test with stable apps in Lucid since it happens upstream 3.6.3 | 17:56 | |
gnomefreak | cant get screenshot either | 17:57 |
gnomefreak | happens with sunbird as well. testing epiphany again | 17:59 |
gnomefreak | seems i was wrong epiphany is fine as well as chromium | 18:03 |
* gnomefreak is officially out of ideas | 18:43 | |
gnomefreak | i cant imagine that xul191 192 and 193 are all broken at same time but it seems to be | 18:44 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm test building TB3.0.5 build 2 now, if I push it up soon, can you push to security PPA? | 19:06 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - i can | 19:06 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: k, thanks, I'll ping you when it's ready | 19:07 |
* micahg forgot it needs a USN... | 19:07 | |
micahg | mdeslaur: can I get a USN for the Thunderbird 3.0.5 release? | 19:07 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, it does | 19:07 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, asac suggested we try to backport the critical security fixes for TB2 | 19:08 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i was unsure whether we were going to try that or just backport 3.0.x | 19:09 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: well, I can give it a try, he said just stuff that affects a default install i.e. no JS stuff | 19:09 |
gnomefreak | that should hld until we get 3.0 done for hardy+ | 19:10 |
gnomefreak | s/hld/hold | 19:10 |
micahg | gnomefreak: no 3.0 for hardy if this works, that's the point :) | 19:10 |
micahg | gnomefreak: on that topic actually, can you make me a thunderbird-stable PPA for the mozilla team? | 19:11 |
micahg | gnomefreak: or make me an admin so I can make it? | 19:11 |
gnomefreak | micahg: right but my point being if there is a problem than the security updates would be handy (but ive been away for last week or so) | 19:11 |
micahg | gnomefreak: not following | 19:11 |
gnomefreak | micahg: yes ill make you admin | 19:11 |
micahg | gnomefreak: thanks :) | 19:12 |
gnomefreak | micahg: the 2.0 security fixes should be used if hardy 3.0 doesnt happen for a while | 19:12 |
asac | chrisccoulson: tb2 to tb3 is quite a substantial change wrt features and user interface | 19:12 |
micahg | gnomefreak: I want to push updates to a stable PPA so we can get some testing on hardy, but hopefully we won't have to push as that requires updating more than jsut TB | 19:12 |
asac | chrisccoulson: in ubuntu we always default to backport patches if doable at all .... and if you consider javascript not affecting TB, it should be perfectly doable | 19:12 |
gnomefreak | k | 19:12 |
chrisccoulson | asac - that's ok then. i was just a bit unsure of how much effort would be involved maintaining that | 19:13 |
asac | chrisccoulson: usually you get 1 or 2 patches every 3 month on TB | 19:14 |
chrisccoulson | thats good then :) | 19:14 |
asac | often they apply, because they are against quite stable piece of code ... like imap protocol etc. | 19:14 |
asac | i think some rework on those pieces was done for tb3, so it might be a bit more rebasing required | 19:14 |
asac | but i would suggest to first try that | 19:14 |
gnomefreak | micahg: done | 19:14 |
micahg | gnomefreak: thanks | 19:15 |
gnomefreak | micahg: np | 19:16 |
gnomefreak | ok all membership that were waiting are done. i guess ill play more with all of our apps tomorrow. micahg all mozilla apps are doing it here even sunbird. but ill be back tomorrow | 19:18 |
gnomefreak | oh crap updates first | 19:19 |
micahg | gnomefreak: k | 19:19 |
micahg | \o/ thunderbird-stable is live :) | 19:39 |
BUGabundo | \m/ | 19:39 |
* micahg hopes it doesn't turn out to be a frankenstein :) | 19:39 | |
BUGabundo | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | 19:46 |
fta | bug 584959 :( | 19:49 |
fta | ubot4 eh! | 19:49 |
ubot4 | Factoid 'eh!' not found | 19:49 |
fta | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/584959 | 19:50 |
micahg | fta: it seems there's a bug in LP that's causing the hickups | 19:50 |
micahg | anyone experiencing bug 575160 | 19:50 |
fta | asac, micahg: that flash crash is caused by an ubuntu patch in gtk, i don't see how it's fixable, esp with the backports | 19:50 |
micahg | fta: well, the csd patch won't be in the backports | 19:51 |
micahg | fta: and bratsche can try to fix the patch | 19:51 |
fta | micahg, he said chromium needs a fix | 19:52 |
micahg | fta: well, can he help with the chromium fix? | 19:53 |
fta | he said not this week | 19:53 |
micahg | fta: k, that's not that bad then, if he said not this cycle I'd be more worried :) | 19:54 |
fta | well, i guess i'll revert the gtk patch for now, it's all broken for me | 19:54 |
micahg | fta: you can push that to a PPA as a workaround for people | 19:55 |
* micahg goes hunting for an IRC admin to reset ubot4 | 19:56 | |
mdeslaur | micahg: use USN-943-1, please | 19:58 |
micahg | mdeslaur: k, thanks | 19:58 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: won't be able to push TB3 up today, will try early tomorrow | 21:17 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, no worries | 21:25 |
chrisccoulson | lol @ bug 583931 | 21:43 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 583931 in firefox (Ubuntu) "a sound type "PACMAN" appear when I turn on Firefox (affects: 7) (dups: 4)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583931 | 21:43 |
chrisccoulson | i can't believe we got a bug report about that | 21:43 |
* micahg can believe it | 21:45 | |
dupondje | can somebody check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/562802 | 21:45 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 562802 in firefox (Ubuntu) "xorg use cpu 100% sometime with firefox (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:45 |
micahg | dupondje: most likely an org bug related to the drivers I would think | 21:46 |
micahg | wait, that one the drivers were fine, maybe an xorg server issue | 21:46 |
dupondje | weird its only in firefox :) | 21:46 |
ddecator | yah i've been trying to figure out what might be causing that, haven't had a chance to look in to it much (hard to figure out since i can't reproduce it) | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | chrisccoulson: you've got to be kidding me | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | are ppl that DUMB? | 21:47 |
ddecator | BUGabundo: mozilla got a ton of reports for the same thing | 21:47 |
chrisccoulson | BUGabundo, it was reported 5 times ;) | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | oh come on!!! | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | I can't believe it!!!!! | 21:47 |
chrisccoulson | neither can i | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | please tell me it's a 1 april joke? | 21:47 |
chrisccoulson | but it's mildly amusing | 21:47 |
micahg | dupondje: are there steps to reproduce? Maybe someone in #ubuntu-x can test with similar hardware? | 21:48 |
ddecator | i laughed when i got the emails | 21:48 |
chrisccoulson | ddecator, yeah, i just decided to go through my bug mail and was pretty amazed to see the reports ;) | 21:48 |
BUGabundo | I got to read the descriptions | 21:49 |
BUGabundo | LOL @ linux virus | 21:50 |
fta | oh man, acroread is broken too | 21:50 |
BUGabundo | and me thinking the "won't print on tuesdays" was the funniest bug ever | 21:50 |
micahg | asac: chrisccoulson: DMB meeting tomorrow (our package set is on the agenda) 14:00 UTC | 21:56 |
fta | BUGabundo, lol, i think i'm doomed | 21:57 |
fta | root@ix:~ # tcpdump | 21:57 |
fta | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 21:57 |
BUGabundo | ahahaahahahahaahahaha | 21:57 |
fta | jdstrand, ^^ | 22:01 |
fta | [12181.133140] type=1503 audit(1274734610.178:15): operation="open" pid=5244 parent=4999 profile="/usr/sbin/tcpdump" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/sys/class/net/" | 22:01 |
micahg | fta: he's on vacation | 22:02 |
fta | oh my | 22:02 |
micahg | fta: ask mdeslaur | 22:02 |
fta | mdeslaur, ^^ then :) | 22:02 |
fta | how come it didn't hurt anyone until now? it's the same version as lucid | 22:03 |
micahg | fta: maybe a new system reqsource? | 22:03 |
micahg | *resource | 22:03 |
mdeslaur | fta: tcpdump segfaults? | 22:03 |
fta | mdeslaur, yes, in maverick | 22:03 |
mdeslaur | fta: looks like the apparmor profile needs adjusting...please file a bug | 22:04 |
fta | mdeslaur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/439052/ but there's no -dbg/dbgsym for that in maverick | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | we really need ddebs back | 22:05 |
mdeslaur | fta: we don't need a backtrace. The apparmor profile is blocking /sys/class/net, which is making it segfault. | 22:05 |
fta | BUGabundo, i asked pitti earlier today, he enabled them | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | YAY | 22:06 |
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mdeslaur | fta: for now, you can simply do "aa-complain /usr/sbin/tcpdump" | 22:07 |
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mdeslaur | fta: that will make the profile simply complain instead of enforcing | 22:07 |
mdeslaur | fta: actually... | 22:08 |
fta | bug 585150 | 22:08 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 585150 in tcpdump (Ubuntu) "tcpdump segfaults because of apparmor (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585150 | 22:08 |
mdeslaur | fta: "sudo touch /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.tcpdump" and then "sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.tcpdump" will disable the profile for you | 22:08 |
mdeslaur | thanks for the bug fta | 22:08 |
ddecator | wow, didn't expect someone to take the pacman bug to that level... | 22:12 |
BUGa_Alice_in_WL | ahaha | 22:12 |
fta | google made the pacman thing permanent | 22:19 |
* micahg prepares for more bug reports :-/ | 22:19 | |
fta | no, it will move to /pacman | 22:20 |
micahg | we have a pacman package :) | 22:20 |
ddecator | yah, thankfully | 22:20 |
ddecator | do we really? | 22:20 |
micahg | !info pacman | 22:20 |
ubot4 | micahg: pacman (source: pacman): Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth. In component universe, is optional. Version 10-17ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 28 kB, installed size 160 kB | 22:21 |
ddecator | :D | 22:21 |
fta | d'oh! i can hear user screaming already: http://googlereader.blogspot.com/2010/05/spring-cleaning-comments-offline-and.html | 22:22 |
fta | userS | 22:22 |
fta | (/wrt gears) | 22:23 |
* BUGa_Alice_in_WL reads | 22:23 | |
* micahg thinks we should have dropped gears for Lucid | 22:23 | |
fta | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/05/outlook-lock-in-could-vanish-with-new-open-source-projects.ars | 22:26 |
BUGa_Alice_in_WL | pff | 22:30 |
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