[01:39] <bobby> Anybody know if 3.7 is in Synaptic yet? I have the daily PPA, but I can't find 3.7 in synaptic, and I can't make from the .tar.bz2 file from mozilla :s
[01:39] <bobby> Wait, no I finally found it :)
[01:41] <micahg> bobby: still broke, should be fixed in about 6 hrs
[01:41] <bobby> No, I finally found it
[01:41] <bobby> It is there
[01:41] <bobby> Oh yeah, did you guys know that there is no make file in the 3.7a5 .tar.bz2 source?
[01:42] <micahg> bobby: it's generated
[01:42] <bobby> ? Didn't work for me when I tried to build it earlier...
[05:09] <ddecator> micahg: i was just about to work on the patch that i want to try and fix, but it looks like there may be a new issue with the latest songbird build, so i'm going to look into it, but i probably won't have it done tonight
[05:11] <micahg> ddecator: k, np
[09:07] <BUGabundo_remote> sleep check,clothes check,Monday start ohhhh
[09:12] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: http://www.google.com/buzz/117086801193576801205/d57ErVAs8yH/Testing-the-Buzz-API-in-Gwibber
[12:17] <gnomefreak> it seems that opening thunderbird and irssi causes irssi to blink and move around  <- very odd
[12:17] <gnomefreak> also tb has no (close/min/max buttons
[12:17] <gnomefreak> )
[12:21]  * gnomefreak going to upgrade other box to Lucid and see if i cant work with it, maybe email will have to wait a day or 3
[12:34] <nikolam> hi. anyone knows how to stop that moronic flashing of download window in taskbar
[12:35] <nikolam> after finished download
[12:35] <nikolam> it continues to flash forever,
[13:33] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: what was that link to a code proj  for upstream bugs?
[13:34] <BUGabundo_remote> http://code.google.com/p/youtube-html5-chrome/wiki/UpstreamBugs
[13:34] <BUGabundo_remote> d
[13:46] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: http://videojs.com/  awesome
[14:54] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, for me, flash is no longer usable. http://paste.ubuntu.com/438769/
[14:54] <fta> could be related to gdk, like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/584287
[14:55] <fta> chrisccoulson, are you aware of an upstream bug for that? or better, a fix in gtk trunk??
[14:55] <micahg> bug 584959
[14:56] <fta> the bot is dead here, it works in other channels though
[14:56]  * micahg will go request a reload
[14:56] <fta> ubot2 is fine, 4 is not
[15:02] <fta> bug 584959
[15:02] <fta> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/584287
[15:02] <fta> naaah
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> aha
[15:04]  * BUGabundo_remote kicks the bot
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> bug 584959
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> ubot4: bug 584959
[15:04]  * BUGabundo_remote kicks harder
[15:06] <fta> bug 584959
[15:14] <micahg> bug 584959
[15:15] <micahg> ubot4: wake up
[15:15] <ubot4> Factoid 'wake up' not found
[15:15] <micahg> bug 584959
[15:19] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, 3.6.4 BUILD5 :)
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, i will get that in to the u-m-s PPA shortly
[15:32] <fta> micahg, any plan to fix the dailies? got several requests from users
[15:33] <micahg> fta: which ones?  ff37 is fixed now
[15:33] <fta> (i can't forward atm, evolution is crashing)
[15:33] <micahg> ff36, I was waiting for last build to get into maverick before updataing
[15:34] <micahg> tb31 and tb32 early next month
[15:34] <micahg> bug 584959
[15:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 584959 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "flashplugin crashes in chromium with RGBA enabled (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584959
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> fta / micahg - it looks like they just need building with --disable-ipdl-tests
[15:35] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the dailies?
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> the new test suite doesn't seem to work properly
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah
[15:35] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are the tests totally broke now?
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> micahg - it's just the new test suite for the IPC stuff
[15:35] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm wondering if I should file bugs upstream
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, i wasn't sure whether the test suite was meant to work just yet
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> (it doesn't even compile)
[15:37] <fta> micahg, yep, looks like my flash bug. but it's gtk related, nothing i can do and the desktop team doesn't seem to be motivated :(
[15:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, it's a stable branch, I think everything should work
[15:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: when you tag build5 can you disable the tests and I'll try to get a patch upstream this weekend maybe
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - the tests are already disabled there by virtue of them being disabled by default upstream. i'm just wondering if the build now defaults to --enable-ipdl-tests in 3.6.5 when you don't explicitly disable them
[15:40] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes :)
[15:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, we have a flag to enable :)
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, the dailies are building with --enable-ipdl-tests set explicitly
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> that's my error there - i added some logic in debian/rules for enabling/disabling that flag, and then intended to comment it out when i realised the tests didn't work
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> but i didn't comment enough out ;)
[15:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the flag makes sense and worked fine until recently :)
[15:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can you give me a lucid status for bug 572018
[15:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 572018 in enigmail-locales (Ubuntu) "enigmail-locales weren't updated for 1.0.1 enigmail release (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 70)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572018
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> micahg - done
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> fta - the dailies should build again on the next run
[15:47] <fta> chrisccoulson, thanks
[15:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[15:47] <fta> chrisccoulson, do you know who could help for the gtk/rgba bug?
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> fta - i'm not sure. possibly bratsche might be able to help
[15:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: oops, you might want to look over that 3.6 branch change again :)
[15:49] <chrisccoulson> micahg - how come?
[15:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: you left the else at the end ;)
[15:49] <chrisccoulson> micahg - that's intentional - that belongs to the ifeq which is outside of the comment block
[15:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ah, my mistake, that comment after the if got me :)
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> heh, no worries
[15:51] <micahg> uh oh, xulrunner dropped 2.3MB in installed size :(
[16:55] <gnomefreak> grub is backwards now :(
[16:56] <micahg> burg?
[16:56] <gnomefreak> :) i updated karmic -> lucid and now lucid kernel is the first one nad maverick is the second one it should be other way around
[16:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: it could be it installs the newest one first
[16:58] <gnomefreak> yeah that is what i was thinking but i think i is related to marking all disks on grub setup
[16:58] <gnomefreak> s/i/it
[16:59]  * gnomefreak can worry about that tomorrow, today is another big issue
[17:00] <gnomefreak> ok hopfully i will be here without having to kill -9 anything
[17:03] <gnomefreak76> i think im going to evo or claws. me+tb3=alot of problems one being i cant use tb3 + anything at same time. that makes both useless
[17:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: there seem to be some issues with TB3 + cairo 1.8.10
[17:05] <micahg> gnomefreak: are you crashing?
[17:05] <gnomefreak> micahg: no just no way to close it and terminal or whatever i am running with it flashes to foreground and back to background
[17:06] <gnomefreak> makes both useless. not sure why i lost the window controls on tb3
[17:07] <gnomefreak> cant use file->quit since the flashing prevents me from being able to open menu for more than 1 sec
[17:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: what video carD?
[17:08] <micahg> gnomefreak: bug 564011
[17:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 564011 in iceweasel (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Thunderbird 3.0.4 windowing issues (Lucid Lynx) (affects: 12) (dups: 2) (heat: 82)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564011
[17:08] <gnomefreak> nvidia 6200
[17:08] <gnomefreak> thanks looking
[17:09] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you get the same issues in Seamonkey?
[17:11] <gnomefreak> same thing happens in firefox
[17:11] <gnomefreak> not sure if SM yet. kind of scared to test it
[17:12] <gnomefreak> micahg: same in SM2
[17:12] <gnomefreak> epiphany works
[17:13] <micahg> gnomefreak: more cairo fallout it seems :( I should have just used in source + our patch for Lucid ....
[17:13] <gnomefreak> im leaning towards it being more of an xul bug
[17:13] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, xul 191 + cairo 1.8.10
[17:14] <micahg> gnomefreak: is it the same as the bug I showed you or different?
[17:14] <gnomefreak> you want me to add xul191 to bug?
[17:14] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, it's not an issue in archive w/xul191
[17:14] <gnomefreak> it seems the same but i need to finish reading it
[17:15] <micahg> only Lucid is affect as it has cairo 1.8.10
[17:15] <gnomefreak> micahg: seems by first comment it is not the same my menus are there just the app doesnt stay in foreground long enough to do anything
[17:16] <gnomefreak> maverick as well with daily builds
[17:16] <gnomefreak> oh and i dont use compiz or anything like it
[17:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: im missing the window controls on top right boarder i do have file and rest of menus but it flashes to background and foreground within 1 sec or less so cant keep a menu open
[17:18] <micahg> gnomefreak: weird, I'm curious, could you see if an upstream build does the same?
[17:19] <gnomefreak> yeah ill test with ff if it still happens than its safe to say it will with sm and tb
[17:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: ff36 is xul192
[17:20] <gnomefreak> so is tb i thought
[17:20] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, tb3 is xul191 as is SM2
[17:20] <gnomefreak> micahg: well it happens on all 3 here
[17:21] <micahg> ugh
[17:21] <micahg> gnomefreak: any other GTK apps?
[17:21] <gnomefreak> so i dont think that the xul version matters unless its a problem in 191 and hasnt been fixed anywhere
[17:21] <gnomefreak> micahg: no not so far
[17:21] <micahg> gnomefreak: ff37 daily also?
[17:21] <gnomefreak> ill check. webkit works all webkit works it seems
[17:21] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, so check an upstream build so we can know if it's a system lib issue or an upstream issue
[17:22] <micahg> bbiab
[17:22] <gnomefreak> 3.7 as well :(
[17:22]  * gnomefreak goes for upstream 3.6
[17:24]  * gnomefreak be back as well, need a smoke 
[17:28] <gnomefreak> epiphany started doing it when download was done
[17:28] <gnomefreak> that means not a xul bug?
[17:30] <gnomefreak> 02:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)  is the card
[17:32] <gnomefreak> cant get upstream to run. sh run-mozilla.sh and run-mozilla.sh do not work but the file is there
[17:37] <gnomefreak> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .
[17:40] <gnomefreak> well that was new. running from CLI i lose all panels and firefox but term is only thing showing and it is still blinking
[17:41] <gnomefreak> happens in safemode as well. i need to figure out why sh isnt working
[17:42] <micahg> k, bbiab, will think about it
[17:42] <gnomefreak> micahg: before you go how do i run the upstream version
[17:43] <ddecator> if you download the tarball, extract it and run the firefox file in there
[17:43] <gnomefreak> ddecator: that wont run the installed version?
[17:44] <ddecator> gnomefreak: not when i've done testing. you just cd into the dir and run ./firefox (with the ending if there is one, can't remember...)
[17:46] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/firefox/firefox$ ./firefox opens it but still does the same thing. problem i am seeeing is it is now causing the panels to disappear no firefox is shown but the other windows i have open blink
[17:47]  * gnomefreak should have stayed in bed today. be back in a few hcanging laundry to drier
[17:56]  * gnomefreak guesses no need to test with stable apps in Lucid since it happens upstream 3.6.3
[17:57] <gnomefreak> cant get screenshot either
[17:59] <gnomefreak> happens with sunbird as well. testing epiphany again
[18:03] <gnomefreak> seems i was wrong epiphany is fine as well as chromium
[18:43]  * gnomefreak is officially out of ideas
[18:44] <gnomefreak> i cant imagine that xul191 192 and 193 are all broken at same time but it seems to be
[19:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm test building TB3.0.5 build 2 now, if I push it up soon, can you push to security PPA?
[19:06] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i can
[19:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, thanks, I'll ping you when it's ready
[19:07]  * micahg forgot it needs a USN...
[19:07] <micahg> mdeslaur: can I get a USN for the Thunderbird 3.0.5 release?
[19:07] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it does
[19:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, asac suggested we try to backport the critical security fixes for TB2
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, i was unsure whether we were going to try that or just backport 3.0.x
[19:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, I can give it a try, he said just stuff that affects a default install i.e. no JS stuff
[19:10] <gnomefreak> that should hld until we get 3.0 done for hardy+
[19:10] <gnomefreak> s/hld/hold
[19:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: no 3.0 for hardy if this works, that's the point :)
[19:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: on that topic actually, can you make me a thunderbird-stable PPA for the mozilla team?
[19:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: or make me an admin so I can make it?
[19:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: right but my point being if there is a problem than the security updates would be handy (but ive been away for last week or so)
[19:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: not following
[19:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes ill make you admin
[19:12] <micahg> gnomefreak: thanks :)
[19:12] <gnomefreak> micahg: the 2.0 security fixes should be used if hardy 3.0 doesnt happen for a while
[19:12] <asac> chrisccoulson: tb2 to tb3 is quite a substantial change wrt features and user interface
[19:12] <micahg> gnomefreak: I want to push updates to a stable PPA so we can get some testing on hardy, but hopefully we won't have to push as that requires updating more than jsut TB
[19:12] <asac> chrisccoulson: in ubuntu we always default to backport patches if doable at all .... and if you consider javascript not affecting TB, it should be perfectly doable
[19:12] <gnomefreak> k
[19:13] <chrisccoulson> asac - that's ok then. i was just a bit unsure of how much effort would be involved maintaining that
[19:14] <asac> chrisccoulson: usually you get 1 or 2 patches every 3 month on TB
[19:14] <chrisccoulson> thats good then :)
[19:14] <asac> often they apply, because they are against quite stable piece of code ... like imap protocol etc.
[19:14] <asac> i think some rework on those pieces was done for tb3, so it might be a bit more rebasing required
[19:14] <asac> but i would suggest to first try that
[19:14] <gnomefreak> micahg: done
[19:15] <micahg> gnomefreak: thanks
[19:16] <gnomefreak> micahg: np
[19:18] <gnomefreak> ok all membership that were waiting are done. i guess ill play more with all of our apps tomorrow. micahg all mozilla apps are doing it here even sunbird. but ill be back tomorrow
[19:19] <gnomefreak> oh crap updates first
[19:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: k
[19:39] <micahg> \o/ thunderbird-stable is live :)
[19:39] <BUGabundo> \m/
[19:39]  * micahg hopes it doesn't turn out to be a frankenstein :)
[19:46] <BUGabundo> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[19:49] <fta> bug 584959 :(
[19:49] <fta> ubot4 eh!
[19:49] <ubot4> Factoid 'eh!' not found
[19:50] <fta> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/584959
[19:50] <micahg> fta: it seems there's a bug in LP that's causing the hickups
[19:50] <micahg> anyone experiencing bug 575160
[19:50] <fta> asac, micahg: that flash crash is caused by an ubuntu patch in gtk, i don't see how it's fixable, esp with the backports
[19:51] <micahg> fta: well, the csd patch won't be in the backports
[19:51] <micahg> fta: and bratsche can try to fix the patch
[19:52] <fta> micahg, he said chromium needs a fix
[19:53] <micahg> fta: well, can he help with the chromium fix?
[19:53] <fta> he said not this week
[19:54] <micahg> fta: k, that's not that bad then, if he said not this cycle I'd be more worried :)
[19:54] <fta> well, i guess i'll revert the gtk patch for now, it's all broken for me
[19:55] <micahg> fta: you can push that to a PPA as a workaround for people
[19:56]  * micahg goes hunting for an IRC admin to reset ubot4
[19:58] <mdeslaur> micahg: use USN-943-1, please
[19:58] <micahg> mdeslaur: k, thanks
[21:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: won't be able to push TB3 up today, will try early tomorrow
[21:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, no worries
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> lol @ bug 583931
[21:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 583931 in firefox (Ubuntu) "a sound type "PACMAN" appear when I turn on Firefox (affects: 7) (dups: 4)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583931
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> i can't believe we got a bug report about that
[21:45]  * micahg can believe it
[21:45] <dupondje> can somebody check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/562802
[21:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 562802 in firefox (Ubuntu) "xorg use cpu 100% sometime with firefox (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:46] <micahg> dupondje: most likely an org bug related to the drivers I would think
[21:46] <micahg> wait, that one the drivers were fine, maybe an xorg server issue
[21:46] <dupondje> weird its only in firefox :)
[21:47] <ddecator> yah i've been trying to figure out what might be causing that, haven't had a chance to look in to it much (hard to figure out since i can't reproduce it)
[21:47] <BUGabundo> chrisccoulson: you've got to be kidding me
[21:47] <BUGabundo> are ppl that DUMB?
[21:47] <ddecator> BUGabundo: mozilla got a ton of reports for the same thing
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo, it was reported 5 times ;)
[21:47] <BUGabundo> oh come on!!!
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I can't believe it!!!!!
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> neither can i
[21:47] <BUGabundo> please tell me it's a 1 april joke?
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> but it's mildly amusing
[21:48] <micahg> dupondje: are there steps to reproduce?  Maybe someone in #ubuntu-x can test with similar hardware?
[21:48] <ddecator> i laughed when i got the emails
[21:48] <chrisccoulson> ddecator, yeah, i just decided to go through my bug mail and was pretty amazed to see the reports ;)
[21:49] <BUGabundo> I got to read the descriptions
[21:50] <BUGabundo> LOL @ linux virus
[21:50] <fta> oh man, acroread is broken too
[21:50] <BUGabundo> and me thinking the "won't print on tuesdays" was the funniest bug ever
[21:56] <micahg> asac: chrisccoulson: DMB meeting tomorrow (our package set is on the agenda) 14:00 UTC
[21:57] <fta> BUGabundo, lol, i think i'm doomed
[21:57] <fta> root@ix:~ # tcpdump
[21:57] <fta> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:57] <BUGabundo> ahahaahahahahaahahaha
[22:01] <fta> jdstrand, ^^
[22:01] <fta> [12181.133140] type=1503 audit(1274734610.178:15):  operation="open" pid=5244 parent=4999 profile="/usr/sbin/tcpdump" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/sys/class/net/"
[22:02] <micahg> fta: he's on vacation
[22:02] <fta> oh my
[22:02] <micahg> fta: ask mdeslaur
[22:02] <fta> mdeslaur, ^^ then :)
[22:03] <fta> how come it didn't hurt anyone until now? it's the same version as lucid
[22:03] <micahg> fta: maybe a new system reqsource?
[22:03] <micahg> *resource
[22:03] <mdeslaur> fta: tcpdump segfaults?
[22:03] <fta> mdeslaur, yes, in maverick
[22:04] <mdeslaur> fta: looks like the apparmor profile needs adjusting...please file a bug
[22:04] <fta> mdeslaur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/439052/ but there's no -dbg/dbgsym for that in maverick
[22:05] <BUGabundo> we really need ddebs back
[22:05] <mdeslaur> fta: we don't need a backtrace. The apparmor profile is blocking /sys/class/net, which is making it segfault.
[22:06] <fta> BUGabundo, i asked pitti earlier today, he enabled them
[22:06] <BUGabundo> YAY
[22:07] <mdeslaur> fta: for now, you can simply do "aa-complain /usr/sbin/tcpdump"
[22:07] <mdeslaur> fta: that will make the profile simply complain instead of enforcing
[22:08] <mdeslaur> fta: actually...
[22:08] <fta> bug 585150
[22:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 585150 in tcpdump (Ubuntu) "tcpdump segfaults because of apparmor (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585150
[22:08] <mdeslaur> fta: "sudo touch /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.tcpdump" and then "sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.tcpdump" will disable the profile for you
[22:08] <mdeslaur> thanks for the bug fta
[22:12] <ddecator> wow, didn't expect someone to take the pacman bug to that level...
[22:12] <BUGa_Alice_in_WL> ahaha
[22:19] <fta> google made the pacman thing permanent
[22:19]  * micahg prepares for more bug reports :-/
[22:20] <fta> no, it will move to /pacman
[22:20] <micahg> we have a pacman package :)
[22:20] <ddecator> yah, thankfully
[22:20] <ddecator> do we really?
[22:20] <micahg> !info pacman
[22:21] <ubot4> micahg: pacman (source: pacman): Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth. In component universe, is optional. Version 10-17ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 28 kB, installed size 160 kB
[22:21] <ddecator> :D
[22:22] <fta> d'oh! i can hear user screaming already: http://googlereader.blogspot.com/2010/05/spring-cleaning-comments-offline-and.html
[22:22] <fta> userS
[22:23] <fta> (/wrt gears)
[22:23]  * BUGa_Alice_in_WL reads
[22:23]  * micahg thinks we should have dropped gears for Lucid
[22:26] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/05/outlook-lock-in-could-vanish-with-new-open-source-projects.ars
[22:30] <BUGa_Alice_in_WL> pff