[03:05] <IdleOne> can someone please edit !br with br is Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[07:05] <jussi> !br
[07:05] <jussi> !br is <reply>Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[07:05] <jussi> !no, br is <reply>Entre em #ubuntu-br usando /join #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[07:06] <jussi> IdleOne: when suggesting factoids, please use the mechanism provided and correct syntax, it just makes it easier for everyone.
[08:00] <jussi> heh
[08:01] <jussi> I guess we both ahd finger on the trigger ther...
[08:01] <tsimpson> aliases are nice :)
[08:02] <jussi> yup
[08:04] <topyli> pm: RandPaul> Tired of niggers and their monkeyshines?  Join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[08:05] <topyli> oh, others are reporting the same thing
[08:05] <topyli> staff around?
[08:06] <tsimpson> !staff | fyi ^
[08:06] <topyli> ahh klined, thanks
[08:07] <tsimpson> topyli: no, wrong guy
[08:07] <topyli> no. captaintrek is klined :\
[08:07] <topyli> aye
[08:07] <tsimpson> seems like an auto-kline when that forum is mentioned
[08:07] <tsimpson> which is fair enough
[08:07] <jpds> tsimpson: Oh, I banned RandPaul earlier.
[08:08] <tsimpson> jpds: yeah, I only noticed after I did it in #k
[08:08] <jpds> topyli: ^-- at 06:02UTC.
[08:09] <topyli> still around
[09:49] <ikonia> !grub2 > ikonia
[10:51] <soreau> I was wondering if it would be possible to update ubottus ati factoid so it accurately represents the current state of radeon drivers
[10:51] <Tm_T> !ati
[10:51] <Tm_T> soreau: you mean the factoid or the wikipage?
[10:52] <soreau> Tm_T: The factoid to point to a valid page. So far, all ubuntu/radeon wiki pages I have found are out of date
[10:53] <Tm_T> soreau: I'd say update that wikipage and it should all fine (:
[10:53] <gnomefreak> i agree :)
[10:54] <soreau> I dont
[10:54] <soreau> The link is called BinaryDriverHowto
[10:54] <gnomefreak> soreau: do you have a page we can use?
[10:55] <soreau> It shouldnt entail a binary/proprietary driver needs to be installed
[10:55] <gnomefreak> soreau: than update to wiki dont build a new one
[10:55] <gnomefreak> s/to/the
[10:55] <soreau> gnomefreak: How can you change the link name? Even afterward, the factoid would need updating
[10:56] <gnomefreak> soreau: also we need to have the non-free drivers listed
[10:56] <soreau> That is my point
[10:56] <gnomefreak> soreau: you havent given us a updaed page title
[10:56] <jussi> soreau: if there is a good existing wiki, we can change the factoid to reflect both
[10:56] <soreau> jussi: The brief googling I did revealed there is not
[10:57] <Tm_T> in either case, wiki pages needs updating, as soreau stated, that's the first step
[10:57] <soreau> Yes, the page needs updating then needs to be moved/renamed
[10:57] <gnomefreak> yep looks like 9.10 is latest info. i dont know enough about ati to do much with it
[10:58] <jussi> how up to date is this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[10:58] <Tm_T> soreau: not moved nor renamed, just also needs guide for open drivers
[10:58] <Tm_T> jussi: I would rather see one page to tell about all open drivers, not just atis
[10:58] <Tm_T> similarly like the binary one
[10:58] <soreau> jussi: 9.04-9.10
[10:59] <soreau> jussi: I thought about updating that page but a lot of it would just get cut
[10:59] <Tm_T> soreau: you cannot take out the information for still supported releases
[10:59] <jussi> soreau: perhaps move that one to /Old and tehn update it?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> dont cut anything just add info
[11:00] <Tm_T> what gnomefreak said (:
[11:00] <jussi> or /904
[11:00] <soreau> Would I be able to move/rename pages?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> see jussi's comment above. but only if you have an LP page
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s/page/account
[11:01] <soreau> ok
[11:01]  * gnomefreak doesnt see the point of renaming the page at all. just add info to the page and than save it 
[11:02] <soreau> But it implies you need a binarydriver for your ati/nvidia card
[11:03] <Tm_T> soreau: and you do in older releases
[11:03] <soreau> I am not talking about older releases
[11:03] <Tm_T> sure, but we cannot forget them
[11:03] <soreau> (see initial request)
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i guess what he means is rename the page to a more genric title
[11:04] <Tm_T> not needed
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: i agree
[11:04] <soreau> You dont have to forget them, just move/rename the page to something more appropriate like video/graphicsdrivers
[11:04] <soreau> gnomefreak: Yes
[11:04] <Tm_T> create a page that tells about the open drivers in similar way that BinaryDriverHowto does
[11:04] <Tm_T> then this new page is added to factoid
[11:04] <gnomefreak> soreau: no need to do that. just add the info
 jussi: I would rather see one page to tell about all open drivers, not just atis
[11:05] <soreau> That makes sense but needs to be more generic name
[11:05] <gnomefreak> the links at the bottom of the wiki should list a link for free drivers
[11:05] <soreau> in this case, just videodrivers or graphicsdrivers
[11:05] <soreau> At the bottom, pfffffft
[11:05] <Tm_T> soreau: we have BinaryDriverHowto, add OpenDriverHowto
[11:06] <jussi> soreau: better to make a category page which basically is a list, and you can choose.
[11:06] <gnomefreak> soreau: update the info on that page before any renaming or
[11:06] <gnomefreak> /or/
[11:06] <soreau> gnomefreak: That sound most appropriate
[11:06] <gnomefreak> soreau: do you plan on updating that wiki?
[11:06] <soreau> Maybe I will look into it later
[11:07] <soreau> See how bad off it is :P
[11:07] <gnomefreak> i dont like the idea of renaming it as it will have alot of problems (links to update from other wikis)
[11:08] <Tm_T> yes, it's better to add opendriverhowto instead
[11:08] <Tm_T> and update the both pages then
[11:08] <soreau> You dont need an opendriver howto
[11:09] <soreau> Only thing I suspect needs adding is the explanation about open drivers and that they are installed and working with 3D by default
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ok than dont add one.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> soreau: still should add a section for it so people dont get confused
[11:10] <soreau> gnomefreak: Its confusing as it is already just by the name of this page
[11:10] <gnomefreak> that is not for all ati cards
[11:11] <jussi> why not create a new page and forward the old one?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> soreau: than feel free to make a new page and link to it from current page.
[11:11] <Tm_T> I really think the separate page is needed
[11:12] <gnomefreak> that way we dont have to update 10 or more wikis
[11:12] <soreau> I really dont care, it is just annoying when I hear things like - I had my cube running but wanted to make it faster so I installed the 3D drivers for my card...
[11:14] <gnomefreak> that is the definition of caring
[11:16]  * gnomefreak be back in a few
[14:08] <bazhang> bilalakhtar, hi
[14:08] <bilalakhtar> bazhang: Hi
[14:09] <bilalakhtar> you will be shocked to know who theidiot was
[14:09] <bilalakhtar> my 15 year old son!
[14:09] <bazhang> who
[14:09] <bazhang> wow
[14:09] <bilalakhtar> he used the office proxy
[14:09] <bilalakhtar> so that he gets a ban on the proxy. he is intelligent when it comes to irc
[14:10] <bilalakhtar> he played a trick on me, He confessed.
[14:10] <bilalakhtar> I scolded, he said that he won't do it again
[14:11] <bilalakhtar> That;s why his hostname looked familiar.
[14:12] <bilalakhtar> All he wanted to do is to get me banned
[14:12] <IdleOne> What exactly was he banned for?
[14:12] <bilalakhtar> IdleOne: for trolling a loty
[14:12] <bilalakhtar> *lot
[14:13] <bilalakhtar> He is intelligent... knows how to use Ubuntu and can program. he recently came to irc. noticed the channels on which I go.
[14:14] <IdleOne> it is a shame
[14:14] <bilalakhtar> IdleOne: He did it behind the scenes, spoilt my name.
[14:15] <IdleOne> also I think you may want to consider securing your machines
[14:15] <bilalakhtar> IdleOne: ok, but the fact that the proxy settings were STORED on the comp!
[14:16] <bilalakhtar> So what should I do?
[14:16] <bazhang> take better care to secure your machine
[14:17] <IdleOne> bilalakhtar: Not my place to tell you how to raise your son
[14:17] <bilalakhtar> bazhang: ok, will remove the setting. but the ban?
[14:17] <IdleOne> but like bazhang said secure your machine. password lock it
[14:17] <bilalakhtar> IdleOne: Ok, will do that. Thats what I meant
[14:17] <bazhang> bilalakhtar, you'll need to get an -offtopic op to review it
[14:19] <bilalakhtar> will change the password and remove proxy settings when I reach home. Have to leave now.
[14:19] <bilalakhtar> is the ot op hook?
[14:19] <bazhang> he is one of several yes
[14:20] <bilalakhtar> ok , the securing task is top on to-do list.
[14:20] <bilalakhtar> cya people.
[14:20] <bazhang> bye
[14:20] <IdleOne> later
[14:21] <elky> I have to admit, i'm laughing.
[14:21] <IdleOne> hehe
[14:21] <jpds> "Thanks. i hate theidiot, whosoever it is. cya"
[14:21] <funkyHat> ⢁D
[14:23] <elky> ban lifted. we'll see how it plays out
[14:23]  * elky isn't entirely convinced
[14:24]  * funkyHat neither
[14:24] <IdleOne> I can't imagine going to a place my father goes to and then making him look bad
[14:24] <elky> i think it's worth pointing out that he did contribute to the banning of his own ip, so i'm pretty sure it's not him. i'm just not sure it's his kid
[14:26] <elky> IdleOne, the boundaries we grew up respecting are... not necessarily so clear to kids these days
[14:26] <IdleOne> elky: :(
[14:26] <IdleOne> I can't say anything more then :(
[14:26] <IdleOne> makes me sad.
[14:26] <elky> 'cause you know it's true :(
[14:26] <IdleOne> yes. I know
[14:27] <jpds> elky: What did I do?
[14:27] <jussi> lol
[14:28] <elky> jpds, i dunno, what did you do?
[15:11] <kiwi4boy> Hello...  I have been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic.  I wonder if I've been considered a troll around there.
[15:15] <tsimpson> kiwi4boy: I don't see any ban on your host
[15:16] <kiwi4boy> Strange, though.  "* Cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned)."
[15:17] <elky> your ident is a fairly common troll ident
[15:17] <kiwi4boy> Nevertheless, I remember that I did behave somewhat anti-socially.
[15:18] <elky> tsimpson, there's a $r:Noob in the list
[15:18] <kiwi4boy> Ah...  They banned "noob," not my host.
[15:18] <kiwi4boy> Thanks.
[15:19] <kiwi4boy> *"noob," ==> ident
[15:22] <kiwi4boy> I guess we don't really like "noob"s here.  Changed my ident from "noob" to "boob", and it works!  Thanks again.
[15:23] <IdleOne> kiwi4boy: boob is not any better but we will see what happens
[15:23] <IdleOne> oh well
[15:23] <IdleOne> later
[16:24] <delac> it seems that webchat is again banned from #ubuntu
[16:25] <delac> can anyone do anything about it?
[16:30] <tsimpson> delac: as FloodBot1 told you, you can join #ubuntu now
[16:31] <delac> oh, thanks!
[16:31] <delac> nope, doesn't seem to work yet... :(
[16:32] <tsimpson> delac: try parting #ubuntu-proxy-users and then rejoin
[16:33] <delac> didn't help
[16:33] <tsimpson> hmm
[16:34] <tsimpson> there's the issue
[16:36] <Pici> tsimpson: do you need me to run through with my mass un-exempt code?
[16:37] <tsimpson> Pici: I was going to do some, but you can if it's quicker
[16:41] <Pici> tsimpson: actually, it looks like I need to work on this broken system at work, sorry :/
[16:41] <tsimpson> I've removed most
[16:41] <Pici> Just when I thought it was fixed too
[16:41] <tsimpson> up until the end of yesterday
[16:42] <tsimpson> delac: try again now (part and rejoin)
[16:42] <delac> worked! thanks!
[16:42] <tsimpson> :)
[16:48] <tsimpson> delac: you can leave here now
[18:51] <Pici> bleh.
[20:06] <topyli> i hate waiting for stuff to arrive when i have ordered it
[20:06] <topyli> fyi
[20:07] <topyli> also, wrong channel. but it's okay, i can share this with you all too :)
[20:25] <Tm_T> awww
[20:54] <funkyHat> I hate waiting for topylis to arrive when I have ordered them
[21:23] <jpds> ikonia: Harsh, but true.
[22:32] <ikonia> !staff | pynchon spamming multiple channels with racist links
[22:32] <tomaw> sigh, I had hoped it was past bedtime
[22:32] <ikonia> sorry - no
[22:32] <tomaw> ikonia: where?
[22:33] <ikonia> #freebsd #ubuntu #debian so far
[22:33] <ikonia> bagging about it in pm
[22:34] <ikonia> ##freebsd sorry
[22:34] <tomaw> ta
[22:34] <tomaw> klined
[22:34] <ikonia> no no, thank you
[22:35] <tomaw> he'll return
[22:35] <ikonia> probably
[22:44] <yavuz> hoi
[22:44] <yavuz> kann mich einer unbannen bitte
[22:44] <yavuz> in #ubuntu-de
[22:44] <yavuz> kahraman@dslb-084-062-126-064.pools.arcor-ip.net
[22:45] <h00k> yavuz: I believe you'll have to check #ubuntu-de-ops for that
[22:45] <h00k> Although I could be mistaken
[22:46] <yavuz> no users in chan