| rotten777 | if anyone has a second, check this out... the bottom of the log with the sqlite file from gpodder, it's the vast majority of the traffic on my sync-daemon... http://pastebin.com/p26DhTMW | 00:48 |
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| rotten777 | i can't remove anything from the list of stuff to sync | 00:48 |
| rotten777 | i'd like to get that off of there so i can actually sync other stuff | 00:48 |
| kachingo | Hi, I'm having a great deal of difficulty getting both contacts and bookmarks to sync, is someone able to help me? | 01:10 |
| mkarnicki | kachingo: I really understad you guys having problems, but I don't think 24/7 support comes even with 50GB plan. It's 2AM at my place, for example. Try asking your questions at noon. | 01:19 |
| mkarnicki | The devs will be here then. | 01:19 |
| kachingo | mkarnicki: it is 12:20pm here, but I will come back later this evening | 01:21 |
| kblin | kachingo: er, read the status link from the topic | 01:22 |
| wgrant | I was about to ask whether that was still broken, after a month. | 01:22 |
| kblin | kachingo: notably the part saying "Monday, May 17, 2010: Sync between your desktops and the cloud continues to be disabled as we rollout more database servers to stabilize. " | 01:22 |
| mkarnicki | kachingo: I see.. | 01:23 |
| kblin | which arguably makes ubuntu one pretty useless for everybody not buing music | 01:23 |
| wgrant | File syncing still just about works. | 01:23 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: as you see, they're scaling up right now | 01:24 |
| wgrant | It's really, really, really slow, but it works eventually. | 01:24 |
| wgrant | mkarnicki: And have been for a month... | 01:24 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: somewhat. they have been working on the code, on both client and server side. they are scaling it up hardware-wise. | 01:25 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: by the way, I know it's taking long. it bugs me too, but what can I do.. | 01:25 |
| wgrant | And in the meantime the service has been broken for a month. | 01:25 |
| * kblin shrugs | 01:25 | |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: still, I'm using a free 2GB plan. what's more, I'm developing a mobile app for U1, so I'm hoping for better speeds, too. | 01:25 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: hmm.. I did sync some files, but not really much to tell how 'well' it was behaving. | 01:26 |
| kblin | I'd be happy with some decent instructions on how to easily sync desktopcouch entries to a dedicated non-canonical server | 01:26 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: heh :) I think couchDB server-side is open, isn't it? I think you can do that, I might have even seen a wiki/article on that. | 01:27 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: I'm sorry, but I'm currently to busy to look it up.. google it :) | 01:27 |
| wgrant | You can sync between personal CouchDBs. | 01:27 |
| mkarnicki | ah | 01:27 |
| wgrant | Apparently the auth is a little awkward/broken, though. | 01:28 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: do you buy music from the store? | 01:28 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: if not, you could stick to dropbox for some time and come back when things are way better. | 01:29 |
| mkarnicki | wgrant: one of dropbox adventages is that it just works. however, u1 framework is much more powerful - yet, you can see the ongoing work since it's so slow. | 01:30 |
| kblin | mkarnicki: well, yes, you can | 01:30 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: I suspect some more elaboration.. or shouldn't I ? :) | 01:30 |
| kblin | mkarnicki: well, it's not like it's straightforward.. you need to fiddle around alot, not what I call user-friendly | 01:32 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: you mean dropbox? | 01:32 |
| kblin | but of course if you want to sell a service, why make using a free alternative easy | 01:32 |
| kblin | talking about contact sync | 01:32 |
| mkarnicki | ah | 01:33 |
| mkarnicki | I wouldn't even know how to sync contacts with dropbox ;D | 01:33 |
| mkarnicki | well, same as you, I hope for much improvement in both areas. | 01:34 |
| kblin | ah, I'm not even talking about dropbox | 01:34 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: you own a 'googlephone'? | 01:36 |
| kblin | I've got a laptop and a pc at home, and I'd like to keep contacts in sync... | 01:36 |
| kblin | nope | 01:36 |
| kblin | I don't like the android platform much | 01:36 |
| mkarnicki | ah, that's what you mean.. I lost you sorry, I was thinking of phone<->PC sync | 01:36 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: I see. then what i was about to say won't interest you much. | 01:37 |
| kblin | I'm a C coder, and the libc on android is pretty crippled | 01:37 |
| kblin | friends tell me it's nice if you write java apps for it | 01:37 |
| mkarnicki | me on the other hand, is a web gmail user, so I don't have that contact sync problem | 01:37 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: I'm a C/C++ coder, and I'm writing an U1 Java app for it right now. it's not bad :) | 01:38 |
| mkarnicki | by the way | 01:38 |
| kblin | I've been trying to get samba to work on andy, without too much luck | 01:38 |
| mkarnicki | they have rolled out some native libraries/api access recently on 2.1 or 2.2, didn't they | 01:38 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: why would you need samba on your phone :) ? | 01:38 |
| mkarnicki | kblin: you mean, sharing files to your computer, for example? | 01:39 |
| kblin | 8GB of storage on the phone :) | 01:39 |
| kblin | i've run fileservers with less than that | 01:39 |
| mkarnicki | theres a 1-button "On Air" application for Android, it's ftp :) | 01:39 |
| kblin | not recently, of course | 01:39 |
| kblin | yeah, sure | 01:40 |
| kblin | I was looking at Samba4 Acitve Directory DC support | 01:40 |
| mkarnicki | clever stuff which I don't know ;) | 01:40 |
| kblin | the hardware is powerful enough to run a small workgroup | 01:40 |
| kblin | anyway, a bit off-topic here :) | 01:41 |
| mkarnicki | :) | 01:41 |
| kblin | so the part that makes manual syncing of the desktopcouch a pain is that it's using a random username and password | 01:42 |
| mkarnicki | I see.. | 01:43 |
| mkarnicki | I'm having some hard time with eclipse.. | 01:44 |
| kblin | so basically any tool to do the sync needs to parse out the auth info from ./local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html first, then connect to the database and replicate it over to another database | 01:45 |
| mkarnicki | uhum | 01:45 |
| kblin | it's doable, but much less convenient than a checkbox in the "ubuntu one" settings | 01:47 |
| kblin | anyway, enough ranting about this, I need to get some sleep | 01:47 |
| autarch | I marked a whole bunch of folders to sync with u1, and now I'd like to stop syncing all of them and remove them from the shared storage | 01:49 |
| autarch | when I looked at the web UI, deleting them isn't an option, and when I run u1sdtool --delete-folder id, it just hangs | 01:50 |
| autarch | a little context, it's not done syncing all these different folders yet, afaict | 01:50 |
| autarch | oh, honk, I guess | 02:15 |
| autarch | I'll probably be afk soon, but I will keep the window open and try (most) anything people suggest later on | 02:15 |
| mkarnicki | rotten777: you won't believe where I found the URLs I was asking for :) /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/oauth_urls (I found that in ubuntuone-client python code) \o/ | 02:23 |
| rotten777 | sweer | 02:27 |
| rotten777 | sweet* | 02:27 |
| mkarnicki | :) | 02:31 |
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| ali_ | hi | 08:07 |
| jernst | hello, I wanted to try ubuntoone for my girlfriend, but it makes 12 hours that the sync started and I only get to see empty folders in the web interfaces (and it says I'm using 0MB of 2GB) | 09:31 |
| jernst | the logs say "Not enough space to upload xxx bytes"... | 09:35 |
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| AlanBell | aquarius or anyone, is there a plan for streaming U1MS music from U1 rather than syncing and downloading? | 09:45 |
| aquarius | AlanBell, there is a plan roughly resembling that being thought about, yes. :) | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | cool :-) | 09:45 |
| aquarius | jernst, the chap you want to talkto about that is rye, when he arrives | 10:01 |
| jernst | aquarius: thanks, in the meantime I have reported the issue here : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/584852 | 10:03 |
| quietone | I just tried UbuntuOne (lucid) after not using for months and got this "Errno 18509005---nes:X509_load_cert_crl_file:system lib" | 10:08 |
| quietone | is there anything I can do to use UbuntuOne? | 10:20 |
| doktoreas | hello folks..is there a way to check status of synching in the tray? | 10:57 |
| popey | doktoreas: the tray icon is no more | 11:08 |
| doktoreas | hi popey..so no way to check if file are synched? | 11:10 |
| popey | u1sdtool -s | 11:10 |
| popey | watch -d 'u1sdtool -s' :) | 11:10 |
| doktoreas | ah ok | 11:11 |
| doktoreas | popey, any reason why the icon was removed? | 11:12 |
| popey | I'm sure there's a reason :) | 11:12 |
| quietone | Can anyone help me access UbuntuOne? I get Errno 18509005---nes:X509_load_cert_crl_file:system lib | 11:13 |
| kblin | hm, is the data sync to the ubuntuone database completely unencrypted as well | 11:40 |
| duanedesign | hello kblin | 11:50 |
| kblin | duanedesign: hi | 11:50 |
| duanedesign | kblin: this should help answer some of your questions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Security | 11:52 |
| kblin | ah, great, thanks | 11:53 |
| kblin | the couchdb docs never bother to mention encrypted data transfer | 11:53 |
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| b1ackcr0w | are there any phone sync experts about | 13:47 |
| b1ackcr0w | can't get my blackberry to sync up | 13:48 |
| b1ackcr0w | honk | 13:53 |
| b1ackcr0w | honk | 13:58 |
| drocamor | hi. about 2 weeks ago i was working with someone on getting some music i purchased that was never put in my ubuntuone account. That music is still not there | 14:00 |
| drocamor | can someone help? | 14:00 |
| rotten777 | you purchase it from the u1ms and it never showed up in your "My Storage" on the u1 website? | 14:00 |
| rotten777 | https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ | 14:00 |
| drocamor | rotten777: that's correct it never showed up | 14:02 |
| drocamor | if i recall correctly the issue was with syncing some songs from 7 digital and something manually had to be done on the ubuntuone side | 14:02 |
| drocamor | i thought that would be done, but i guess not | 14:02 |
| drocamor | i have been off the net for about 2 weeks | 14:02 |
| drocamor | but right now the songs are not in https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ | 14:03 |
| rotten777 | sounds like a 7digital->u1 backend issue. unfortunately i'm useless there. just keep this channel up and post the specifics about the problem and someone will help. sorry i can't do much else | 14:04 |
| drocamor | hmm | 14:04 |
| drocamor | rotten777: who would be able to refund my money? ubuntuone or 7digital? | 14:05 |
| rotten777 | drocamor: negative, I'm just a user :) | 14:05 |
| drocamor | hah | 14:05 |
| drocamor | yeah | 14:05 |
| rotten777 | sorry man | 14:05 |
| rotten777 | i had that issue the first couple of days of u1 usage | 14:05 |
| rotten777 | it "fixed itself" | 14:06 |
| drocamor | yeah | 14:06 |
| drocamor | i do not mind going to an IRC channel to get help with an opensource project that i didn't pay for | 14:07 |
| drocamor | that's cool | 14:07 |
| drocamor | but like | 14:07 |
| drocamor | i paid for something and i have no way of getting help except for hanging out here all day | 14:07 |
| drocamor | and i talked to people about this issue but have no way of tracking it | 14:07 |
| drocamor | no ticket system, no support phone number, no support email even | 14:07 |
| drocamor | not your problem i know | 14:08 |
| rotten777 | yeah i understand | 14:08 |
| rotten777 | have you contacted digital directly? | 14:08 |
| b1ackcr0w | ,bug #544596 | 14:15 |
| b1ackcr0w | ,bug 544596 | 14:15 |
| b1ackcr0w | ,544596 | 14:16 |
| b1ackcr0w | Launchpad bug 544596 in Ubuntu One Servers "Songs not transferred from music store to U1 storage" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544596 | 14:17 |
| drocamor | rotten777: i did contact 7digital and after about a week with no response they wrote me back and said 'this is not our problem' | 14:19 |
| rotten777 | hmm... | 14:20 |
| mkarnicki | that sucks :/ | 14:20 |
| mkarnicki | drocamor: try hon'king again | 14:20 |
| mkarnicki | someone on this channel should be able to help you | 14:20 |
| drocamor | b1ackcr0w: that does not seem like my issue. my songs do not even make it to ubuntuone | 14:20 |
| drocamor | who can refund my money? Ubuntuone or 7digital? | 14:22 |
| mkarnicki | drocamor: go to https://one.ubuntu.com/support/ and fill in the Billing assistance form | 14:24 |
| mkarnicki | drocamor: maybe that will help solve your issue faster? | 14:25 |
| mkarnicki | drocamor: I'm also a regular user, can't think of more ways to help | 14:25 |
| drocamor | mkarnicki: thanks | 14:27 |
| rotten777 | anyone with syncdaemon troubleshooting skills.... http://pastebin.com/7p3GEvvC | 14:37 |
| latz | hi ho, I've purchased music from u1 store via rhythmbox and I see my purchased music on the u1 site, I can download the songs manually but in my ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased Music... folder I don't see the songs, just the folder? are there any logfiles or something where I can see that the sync is in progress? (other than the u1 preferences thingie) thx | 14:43 |
| b1ackcr0w | latz, there are some command line tools that give you a bit more info | 14:44 |
| b1ackcr0w | but, everybody is finding the transfer very sluggish ATM | 14:45 |
| b1ackcr0w | Launchpad bug 544596 in Ubuntu One Servers "Songs not transferred from music store to U1 storage" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544596 | 14:45 |
| latz | k i've read that already that the transfers are slow atm but yeahh I thought there was something I could do....although if I download them manually I get a fair speed .. | 14:48 |
| latz | u know what's missing on the stores website as well is some kind of "mark this album" or somekind of "remind this" feature that would be awesome. | 14:49 |
| rotten777 | latz, yeah there should be a many more features in the store.. i'm with you there. and browsing should be MUCH easier.. playlist sharing and ratings would be amazing as well | 14:55 |
| rotten777 | latz, run this in the terminal -> u1sdtool --waiting-content | 14:56 |
| mkarnicki | gotta go for now, later guys | 14:56 |
| duanedesign | latz: what do you get when your un the following command in a Terminal: u1sdtool -s | 15:00 |
| autarch | it seems like syncing is ridiculously slow, or just hung | 15:02 |
| autarch | is there something I can do to try and diagnose this? | 15:02 |
| latz | duanedesign: I get this | 15:07 |
| latz | State: QUEUE_MANAGER connection: With User With Network description: processing queues is_connected: True is_error: False is_online: True queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH | 15:07 |
| latz | u1sdtool --wating-content shows nothing | 15:07 |
| latz | but there is content in my Purchased music on u1 site | 15:07 |
| duanedesign | latz: looks like it is working on it. try u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | 15:08 |
| latz | hey | 15:08 |
| latz | waiting-content shows the stuff now | 15:08 |
| latz | but damn I bought 2 hours ago or something | 15:08 |
| latz | but good to know that are some commands to actually watch what's currently happening :) | 15:09 |
| autarch | btw, I'm talking about non-music store syncing | 15:09 |
| latz | big lol @ this option describtion -w, --wait Wait until ubuntuone-syncdaemon reaches nirvana | 15:12 |
| duanedesign | autarch: looks like things are just slow right now. Probably not a lot you can do right now locally to improve the situation. | 15:12 |
| autarch | sigh | 15:30 |
| autarch | I'd really like to experiment with u1, and possibly buy the premium plan, but this is making it less appealing | 15:30 |
| autarch | are these problems new? maybe more people using it cause of the music store? | 15:31 |
| duanedesign | autarch: there has been a huge increase in the number of users since the release of 10.04 | 15:35 |
| autarch | that makes sense | 15:35 |
| autarch | I guess this is the first LTS with the u1 service, right? | 15:35 |
| duanedesign | autarch: aside from a few bad days, like today, the speed problems have been getting better | 15:35 |
| autarch | well, I've been seeing it slow as mud for days, actually | 15:35 |
| autarch | well, my latest experiment started Saturday | 15:36 |
| autarch | but in the past it's been horribly slow transferring music I've purchased, basically every time I've bought music | 15:36 |
| duanedesign | I must confess I have been away from the computer for a couple days | 15:36 |
| doug_ | hello? | 16:28 |
| duanedesign | hello doug_ | 16:30 |
| duanedesign | has anyone seen Latex files causing syncdaemon to hit 100% CPU usage, trying to hash a file continuously? | 16:31 |
| doug_ | i have been dragging files into my ubuntu one folder on my computer to sync them with the internet, but they don't seem to want to. can you help please? | 16:32 |
| duanedesign | doug_: could you please run the following command in a terminal: u1sdtool -s | 16:34 |
| doug_ | ok. im a bit new to all this. what will it do? thanks | 16:38 |
| doug_ | ive run it in a terminal and it just comes up with command not found. | 16:43 |
| doug_ | hello? | 16:48 |
| duanedesign | hello | 16:49 |
| duanedesign | doug_: OK | 16:49 |
| doug_ | it doesn't seem to recognise the command. | 16:50 |
| duanedesign | doug_: my bad the lucid version does not have that feature | 16:50 |
| doug_ | no probs, is there another command i could use? | 16:51 |
| duanedesign | doug_: you can get the same info, but the command is a bit longer. | 16:51 |
| duanedesign | dbus-send --session --print-reply --dest=com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon --type=method_call /status com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status.current_status | 16:51 |
| duanedesign | If you could run that in a terminal and paste the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com | 16:51 |
| doug_ | ok. | 16:54 |
| doug_ | done | 16:55 |
| duanedesign | could you post the address it gives you | 16:58 |
| doug_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/438931/ | 16:58 |
| duanedesign | doug_: looks like the command got messed up somewhere | 16:59 |
| doug_ | oh yeah, this is more like it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438934/ | 17:01 |
| duanedesign | yep thats it :) | 17:01 |
| doug_ | cool. so what does it all mean? | 17:01 |
| doug_ | am i doomed? | 17:02 |
| duanedesign | doug_: ok looks good. At least in that its doing its thing | 17:02 |
| duanedesign | doug_: things are a bit slow right now. They are working on all kinds of improvments to help with the speed issues | 17:03 |
| doug_ | oh right, so its ok? | 17:03 |
| duanedesign | i would expect things to start picking back up soon | 17:03 |
| doug_ | great. i just wasn't sure, but can you confirm that anything i drop into my ubuntuone folder will be synced? | 17:03 |
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| duanedesign | doug_: yes it will | 17:04 |
| doug_ | that's great news. thanks very much for your help | 17:04 |
| duanedesign | doug_: when its slow like this it helps to leave the machine on if you can, say overnight, | 17:04 |
| doug_ | will do | 17:05 |
| duanedesign | doug_: and feel free to come back bt tommorrow | 17:05 |
| duanedesign | by* | 17:05 |
| doug_ | will do. cheers for that | 17:05 |
| duanedesign | doug_: and we will make sure everything is still cool | 17:05 |
| doug_ | thanks | 17:05 |
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| josephnexus | are there any plans for f-spot syncronization? | 17:38 |
| igorzolnikov | Hello! Tell me please terminal commands which i could use for working with Ubuntu one. | 17:45 |
| duanedesign | igorzolnikov: hello. you can find a lot of neat commands with 'man u1sdtool' | 17:46 |
| duanedesign | newer versions have a lot more options | 17:46 |
| igorzolnikov | OK. Thank you | 17:46 |
| * josephnexus would really benefit from seeing a public roadmap | 17:49 | |
| igorzolnikov | Some my files don't want uploading in storage. How ask them in polite way to do that? | 17:57 |
| igorzolnikov | Could I use u1sdtool for that? | 17:58 |
| igorzolnikov | I put them in Ubuntu One folders on my Ubuntu 10.04 | 17:58 |
| igorzolnikov | ... and can't see them in my storage and other compure. | 17:59 |
| igorzolnikov | ... computer. | 17:59 |
| igorzolnikov | u1sdtool --wait | 18:07 |
| igorzolnikov | Oops, an error ocurred: | 18:07 |
| igorzolnikov | Traceback (most recent call last): | 18:07 |
| igorzolnikov | Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 18:07 |
| igorzolnikov | What does it mean? | 18:07 |
| igorzolnikov | Ubuntu One Server doesn't work? | 18:08 |
| Chipaca | rodrigo_: a question re the freedesktop spec for couch notes | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | I mean, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/note | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | right now it says content is html | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | but looking at couch, the content is in a proprietary format | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | which is not documented | 18:23 |
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| Chipaca | rodrigo_: is that right? | 18:24 |
| Chipaca | rodrigo_: or am I just getting my tomboy and my couch mixed up due to too much poking at xslt? | 18:27 |
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| johnny_007 | here Can I ask questions about ubuntuone? | 18:47 |
| johnny_007 | nobody's out there? | 18:49 |
| johnny_007 | Can anyone help me? this is the first time that I use IRC... | 18:50 |
| johnny_007 | ok, thanks for the help :( I own u.... | 18:53 |
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| rodrigo_ | Chipaca, if you sync with tomboy, the notes are stored in xml | 19:17 |
| rodrigo_ | Chipaca, in tomboy's xml | 19:17 |
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| Chipaca | rodrigo_: so they're in tomboy's xml inside of couch? | 20:00 |
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| Markus____ | Hi, can anybody tell me how I can move files to a folder in ubuntu one? | 23:47 |
| mkarnicki | Markus____: what do you mean.. like copy paste? | 23:49 |
| Markus____ | yes | 23:49 |
| mkarnicki | those files are somewhere under U1 folder ? or somewhere else? | 23:49 |
| mkarnicki | ok, basically how I got you: you can create a folder in Ubuntu One folder in your Home directory, and then paste those files over there. | 23:49 |
| Markus____ | i will explain it: i have uploaded 2 files to ubuntu one. Now I have made 2 Folders and I would like to move the files there. | 23:50 |
| mkarnicki | Markus____: now tell me, what I got wrong ;) | 23:50 |
| mkarnicki | each file to first/second folder accordingly? | 23:50 |
| Markus____ | yes | 23:50 |
| mkarnicki | FIY I'm just a regular user, but your question suprized me. hmm | 23:51 |
| mkarnicki | I'm not sure if the backend supports moving files as such. are they big? | 23:51 |
| Markus____ | no only a few mb's | 23:51 |
| mkarnicki | most easy way would be to paste those files into ~/Ubuntu One/newFolder/somewherehere | 23:51 |
| mkarnicki | and delete them from ~/Ubuntu One/fromhere | 23:52 |
| mkarnicki | they will reupload that way, thoguh. | 23:52 |
| mkarnicki | *though | 23:52 |
| Markus____ | you mean I have to upload them again | 23:52 |
| mkarnicki | I have no better idea :_: maybe some1 else will | 23:52 |
| mkarnicki | but it's pretty late, UK's U1 team is already asleep | 23:53 |
| Markus____ | ok it is doen't matter | 23:53 |
| mkarnicki | and I think it's they who cover the most answers | 23:53 |
| Markus____ | thank you :) | 23:53 |
| mkarnicki | no problem Markus____ | 23:53 |
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