/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/25/#kubuntu-devel.txt

lex79JontheEchidna: I'm going to do meta-kde to update kde-sc-dev-latest, so the new version of the package should be meta-kde-60ubuntu2 or meta-kde-61ubuntu1 ?00:23
RiddellScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickUpdates?action=diff&rev2=3&rev1=2  diff for you, changing that is just a config option I believe00:23
Riddelllex79: current one is 4:4.4.3+5.60ubuntu1, so meta-kde-60ubuntu2 would follow.  what's your logic for meta-kde-61ubuntu1 ?00:23
lex79uhm dunno, i saw in changelog this: meta-kde (5:60ubuntu1) maverick;00:24
lex79uhm, well, 4:4.4.3 comes from debian/rules00:25
lex795.60ubuntu1 comes from the changelog00:26
Riddellso 5:60ubuntu200:26
lex79ok, but why not 61ubuntu1 ?00:27
lex79just curiosity :)00:27
Riddellwell does debian use version 61?00:27
lex79ah, no :)00:27
lex79ok so 60ubuntu100:28
Riddell5:60ubuntu200:28
lex79ehm 200:28
lex79yes :)00:28
lex79we don't need now to bump KDE build-depends in every package since we have kde-sc-latest, just to be sure meta-kde is upated and keep the build-depends >= 4:4.400:31
lex79right?00:31
Riddellnot sure if the build-depenends need to be versioned at all00:31
* Riddell grabs koffice 2.2.0 and starts packaging00:35
JontheEchidnalex79: new qtwebkit uploaded to ninjas00:58
lex79ok00:58
* Riddell imagines qtwebkit clad in black in its himalayan hideaway practicing HTMLfu00:59
shtylmanum..01:03
* Riddell snoozes01:07
ScottKRiddell: I think that's correct.  dantti said something similar when he reviewed it.01:53
DarkwingDuckScottK: ping02:58
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Pong.02:58
DarkwingDuckScottK: do you know if using a liveCD will work to clean a massive virus attack on a windows system?03:00
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Take a regular Kubuntu live CD, install klamav, mount the NTFS partition and scan away.03:01
DarkwingDuckSWEET!03:01
* DarkwingDuck kisses ScottK feet03:02
CIA-92[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100525020901-e8u3h8ere1de01ch * debian/ (17 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)03:09
CIA-92* New upstream beta release: - Bump build-depend versions - Refresh knetattach03:09
CIA-92patches for upstream indentation changes - Drop the virtuosoconverter patch, no03:09
lex79JontheEchidna: no need to bump kdelibs5-dev in kdebase-runtime I think, >= 4:4.4 should be fine03:32
lex79we have kde-sc-dev-latest package now03:32
lex79or not? :)03:32
JontheEchidnait's habit :P03:34
lex79:)03:35
* ScottK did a test upgrade from lucid to maverick and only found one file overwrite problem. It's fixed in bzr.04:19
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Can you help me out and update this for Lucid: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook04:25
* ScottK totally forgot about it.04:25
JontheEchidnawow, this pkgkde-symbolshelper is magical04:36
JontheEchidnajust save that diff that dpkg-buildpackage gives you to symbols.diff04:36
JontheEchidnathen just do "pkgkde-symbolshelper patch symbols.diff -p packagename"04:36
JontheEchidnait'll ask you if you want to use the upstream version or the ubuntu version in the .symbols file (you'll generally want upstream unless a patch introduces things) and you're golden04:37
ScottKI think MoDaX is the one you want to thank.04:44
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Thanks for the shout out.  Fundamentally you can't run the virus scan with the compromised system, you have to boot from trusted media.  Otherwise you never know if the infection has coopted the virus scanner or not.04:51
jussi:(06:16
jussiIve a broken system and I cant seem to repair it.06:17
jussiand encryption is being evil to me...06:17
jussimaco: over here is probably more appropriate06:23
macohi06:24
macoim actually likely to fall asleep at keyboard06:24
jussimaco: so issue is that I get: kstartupconfig4 does not exist or failed. the error code is 3.06:25
jussiwhen I boot into recovery and try mount the home dir with ecryptfs-mount-private it tells me its not setup correctly... 06:27
jussiits very, very annoying...06:27
macoecryptfs stuff changed in lucid i think06:27
macokirkland blogged about changes06:27
jussioh crap06:27
jussithis machine was an updated machine. maybe something got borked?06:27
jussimaco: Im just looking for the post you mention on Dustins blog... 06:29
macoim thinking of http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/02/attention-encrypted-home-users.html i think06:32
jussiyeah, Im just reading that06:33
jussiooh, very cool: http://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/kdes-webkit-browser-rekonq-gets-extension-support/07:00
RiddellTonio__: bzr log -r 242 on kubuntu-default-settings "Fixed kwinrc, disabling UnredirectFullscreen" what's that for?10:15
Tonio__Riddell: hum that's pretty old... I don't remember...10:16
Tonio__Riddell: I think it was to fix a bug with okular with fullscreenmode.10:16
Tonio__Riddell: I remember beeing asked to fix something like this10:17
Tonio__Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2009-February/066071.html10:18
Tonio__Riddell: I was told to do it because of that message afaicr10:19
RiddellTonio__: seems it caused this http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=kwin_speed_test10:29
Tonio__Riddell: hum... weird, but indeed that's possible...10:36
Tonio__Riddell: does it have a hudge impact on opengl performances ?10:37
Riddelldunno, read the article :)10:37
Tonio__Riddell: I read the test very quickly and didn't see anything related to some kubuntu specific config (as I said I read quick...)10:37
Riddell"valorie-zimmerman joined kubuntu-users", yay, valorie is one of us!10:37
jussi:D10:39
Tonio__Riddell: ho complained it was cause by that settings change ? I saw nothing in the article :)10:40
RiddellTonio__: lubos10:44
Tonio__Riddell: no need to wonder if he's right then...10:47
Tonio__Riddell: I wouldn't dare to go against what lubos said...10:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: got a sec?11:15
Riddellapachelogger is travelling today11:19
shadeslayerah..11:19
shadeslayerRiddell: can you tell me if we patch plasmoids too? ( reference to : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233347  )11:19
ubottuKDE bug 233347 in general "Forgeting all devices causes plasma crash" [Crash,Unconfirmed]11:19
Riddellshadeslayer: we can patch whatever we like11:27
shadeslayerRiddell: hehe.. well a patch might have caused that crash,so thats why im asking you guys to have a look,or comment there :)11:28
Riddellwe don't patch that plasmoid as far as I know11:28
Riddellwe do patch solid for mounting local devices as a normal user11:29
shadeslayerah..11:29
Riddell/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/QtCore.so  huh, that's python?11:30
shadeslayerRiddell: i think its something else : /home/shadeslayer/.kde/share/apps/plasma/wallpapers/clock/contents/code/wallpaperrenderer.py,11:31
Riddellwrong thread11:31
Riddellwell anyway I recommend waiting for the 4.5 beta packages to be done to test them11:32
Riddellthat don't have our patch to solid in 11:32
shadeslayerRiddell: yes i know,but doesnt that mean that the crash could have come from that wallpaper clock ?11:32
shadeslayerRiddell: ok :)11:32
shadeslayerRiddell: btw when can we expect them?11:32
Riddellsee https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging11:36
shadeslayerhmm.. maybe i can help with a small package...11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: where do i get the kdeartwork package from ? ( seems like a easy start to me :P )11:41
Riddellshadeslayer: I need your ssh key11:42
shadeslayerRiddell: do i pastebin that? or do you need my LP page?11:42
RiddellLP page good11:42
shadeslayerRiddell: http://launchpad.net/~rohangarg 11:42
Riddellshadeslayer: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org11:44
Riddellsources in unstable/4.4.80/src11:44
shadeslayerRiddell: ah thanks :)11:44
Riddellgrab our packaging with bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu11:44
Riddellput the two together. we're changing to source format 3.0 so add source/format file and use the .bz2 as the .orig11:45
Riddelldch -i for new changelog11:45
shadeslayerRiddell: oh i know about the 3.0 format :)11:45
Riddelldebuild   check for new  build dependencies in the cmake output11:45
shadeslayerRiddell: sure :)11:45
Riddellif it compiles  run dh_install --list-missing to see if there's any files that should be put into .install files11:46
shadeslayerah didnt know that :P11:46
Riddellkdeartwork is special, you have to manually update kscreensaver-xsavers.install based on xscreensaver-data's contents (also xscreensaver-gl) and  kscreensaver-xsavers-extra.install based on xscreensaver-data-extra contents (also xscreensaver-gl-extra)11:47
Riddellso check if any changes needed there11:47
Riddellthis all needs to be done inside a maverick chroot with the other 4.5 beta packages installed11:48
Riddelldebian/control build-depends versions will need updated too of course11:49
shadesla1erof course :)11:49
Riddell11:47 < Riddell> kdeartwork is special, you have to manually update kscreensaver-xsavers.install based on xscreensaver-data's contents (also xscreensaver-gl) and kscreensaver-xsavers-extra.install based on xscreensaver-data-extra contents (also xscreensaver-gl-extra)11:49
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Riddell11:47 < Riddell> so check if any changes needed there11:49
Riddell11:48 < Riddell> this all needs to be done inside a maverick chroot with the other 4.5 beta packages installed11:49
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah i got those :D11:50
Riddellshadeslayer: but do you have a maverick chroot with the other 4.5 beta packages installed?11:50
shadeslayerRiddell: no im making that right now :P11:50
Riddelldo you know how to get the ninjas PPA packages?11:50
shadeslayerRiddell: i believe that you have a PPA for that?11:51
Riddellwell yes, do you know the secret password?11:51
shadeslayerim new to this,so will need some guidance :D11:51
shadeslayerRiddell: heheh.. no,its a secret :D11:51
Riddellshadeslayer: I added you to ~kubuntu-ninjas, use your power wisely11:52
RiddellPPA secret details at https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa11:53
Riddellmind and mark the wiki page to say you're working on kdeartwork https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging11:53
shadeslayerRiddell: thanks :D11:53
shadeslayerRiddell: sure.. :)11:53
shadeslayerRiddell: The PPA line below needs to include the username and password above, so the URI part would look like this:11:59
shadeslayerRiddell: what password? :P11:59
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw ill have to backport the packages right? first build them for maverick in pbuilder and then for lucid12:00
shadeslayer( making minimal changes along the way )12:00
Riddellshadeslayer: copy "the deb entry" for the PPA (changing distro version to maverick)12:06
shadeslayerok12:06
Riddellshadeslayer: just use a chroot, not a pbuilder12:06
Riddellshadeslayer: we tend to finish the packages for the current version (maverick) before going on to do the backports12:07
shadeslayerRiddell: oh ok..12:07
Riddellshadeslayer: if you use a pbuilder you can't build it then check for and fix the build problems after build12:07
Riddellpbuilder is only the very final stage to test everything is ok (and I'd just put it into the PPA which does the same thing)12:08
Riddellrevu needed http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=821112:11
Riddelllibrcps for koffice12:11
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw cant i use a pbuilder install as a chroot too?12:15
shadeslayerlike with sudo pbuilder login...12:16
Riddellshadeslayer: yes but it'll all disappear when you logout so that seems a bit dangerous12:16
Riddellyou can untar the compressed archive somewhere manually12:16
shadeslayerRiddell: ok.. well im making a basic chroot right  now :)12:17
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw one more thing,ill have to build the package inside the chroot first right?12:19
Riddellyes, that's kindae the whole point :)12:19
JontheEchidnaRiddell: FTBFS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439307/12:20
JontheEchidnaCan't say I know why, though12:21
shadeslayerRiddell: how do i do that? ive only used pbuilder before :)12:21
Riddellshadeslayer: sudo mkdir chroot/root/kdeartwork12:22
Riddellsudo cp <kdeartwork files> chroot/root/kdeartwork12:22
Riddellsudo chroot chroot12:22
Riddellvoila12:22
shadeslayerRiddell: no i meant how do i build the package inside the chroot? debuild ?12:22
JontheEchidnabbl12:23
RiddellJontheEchidna: hum12:23
Riddellshadeslayer: yes  debuild12:23
Riddelland if you get an error and fix it,  debuild -nc   to stop it having to do the whole thing again12:23
Riddelldebuild -S   for source only (cleans out build)12:23
shadeslayerah ok :)12:24
shadeslayerthank god my isp upgraded my internet plan.. :P .. getting 75 KBps :P12:25
Riddellchroots can be painful like that12:25
shadeslayerRiddell: oh no.. thats just the scp :)12:26
Riddellkdeartwork is not small either12:26
shadeslayeryeah.. but just about 60-70 MB12:26
shadeslayerit has all the pretty stuff :P12:27
shadeslayerRiddell: kde-sc-dev-latest << is that even a package? kdeartwork has a build dep on it :P12:30
shadeslayeroh noes... archi12:33
shadeslayerarchive is corrupted :(12:33
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, it's some new bit of packaging cleverness from Debian12:34
shadeslayer:)12:35
Riddellupdated revu needed http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=821212:51
amichairI was wondering, why was konversation replaced with quassel?12:55
Riddellbecause there wasn't a KDE 4 version at the time12:56
shadeslayerRiddell: just some info : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/904419/+listing-archive-extra : says it closes bug 666 whereas bug 666 does not concern gluon 0_o12:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 666 in Launchpad Bugs "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66612:57
amichairah, so any plans to go back to it? it feels to me (and a few others in #kubuntu seem to concur) that konversation is more convenient/mature12:57
amichairare there any other merits to using quassel?12:58
shadeslayer+1 for konversation ...12:59
Riddellshadeslayer: poke Quintasan_ (although too late to change now really)12:59
shadeslayerQuintasan_: pokey pokey :P12:59
shadeslayerRiddell: well still its a mistake that has to rectified :)12:59
shadeslayerbetter now than never :P12:59
Riddellamichair: it's been discussed at various meetings since.  there seems to be various small advantages to either one, no paticular feature stood out as making the decision easy either way so we stayed with the status quo13:00
amichairRiddell: ok. It's true that they are both pretty usable, all in all13:00
Riddelland I use irssi so nobody cares about my opinion :)13:00
shadeslayerQuintasan_: please read backlog whenever youre free,about https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/904419/+listing-archive-extra closing bug 666,the gluon package is unrelated to that bug :)13:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 666 in Launchpad Bugs "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66613:01
amichairthough I thought with all else being equal, kubuntu opts for official kde stuff13:01
amichairRiddell: irssi is the cli one?13:01
Riddellamichair: neither is part of KDE SC and both use kdelibs13:01
Riddellyes13:01
amichairRiddell: oh, for some reason I was under the impression konversation was the sponsored one. I stand corrected :-)13:02
amichairthe one thing missing from both (afaik) is integration with the new notification system13:03
macohmmm? my quassel notifications go the same place my kontact ones do13:04
RiddellI have a slight preference for konversation simply because it's better known (to the extent of being used by non-KDE users)13:04
macoor am i missing something?13:04
Riddellthey both have message indicator integration too13:04
SandGorgonhi guys.. what applications are dependent on QCA ? especially, is there anything in kdebase which depends on QCA (e.g. kdewallet) ?13:04
amichairkonversation has it's own bubble notification thingy, but I haven't seen it play nice with the built in notification mechanism13:05
shadeslayeramichair: afaik konversation also has a OSD notification system13:05
RiddellSandGorgon: apt-cache rdepends libqca213:05
Riddellboth konversation and quassel have nice upstreams.   quassel guys sit in this channel giving them a slight edge :)13:06
amichairshadeslayer: yeah, that's what I meant - it works fine, just not part of the kde integration experience (or however it's advertised)13:06
shadeslayeryeah :)13:06
amichairanyway, on the new netbook install I'm giving quassel a fair try. For now I'm still +1 konversation, fwiw :-)13:07
SandGorgonRiddell, I built kde on my machine, but did not have qca devel installed.. the compiled KDE seems to work fine in Xephyr (I see that CmakeCache has a warning about qca not found)13:08
RiddellSandGorgon: reverse-build-depends libqca2-dev  might be interesting too13:11
RiddellSandGorgon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439320/13:11
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shadeslayerwhoops :P13:36
RiddellJontheEchidna: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8212 if you can13:41
Riddellupdated package13:41
JontheEchidnaRiddell: looks good13:49
Riddellwell I know I'm good looking, I'm a Kubuntu developer.  now how about that package?13:50
JontheEchidna;)13:51
shadeslayerhehe :)13:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell: The package looks good too13:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell: oh, wait13:52
JontheEchidnaRiddell: librcps-dev needs a dependency on ${misc:Depends}, but otherwise it looks perfect13:53
Riddellbah, does anything use misc:Depends ?13:53
JontheEchidnalintian complains if things don't13:53
Riddelllintian and dh_make should get together and get their story straight13:54
JontheEchidnaI usually put "Added a depend on ${misc:Depends} for lintian happiness" in debian/changelog whenever I have to do that13:54
JontheEchidnaor "to appease lintian"13:54
shadeslayerRiddell: btw is it necessary to enable repos other than main and the kubuntu ppa for the chroot? or will those do?13:57
Riddellshadeslayer: if the package is in main then it needs to compile with only main enabled13:57
Riddellkdeartwork is in main13:57
shadeslayeroh ok :)13:57
shadeslayerRiddell: and no need for kubuntu ninja ppa?13:58
txwikingerRiddell: I have looked at kdevelop and kdevplatforms14:57
txwikingerdebian and our stuff are a little bit two different branches at the moment, even both are 4.014:58
txwikingerI probably have to go step by step and merge to contain the newest from both14:59
Riddelltxwikinger: I uploaded the packages from our PPA, but if they can be merged or synced that would  be better14:59
Riddelltxwikinger: any reason why they can't be synced?15:00
danttiRiddell: hi, do you know which licence are the adept sources? I would like to add the lgpl header as it only has the author name15:00
SandGorgonis the Google V8 engine, a drop-in replacement for KJs ?15:00
txwikingerRiddell: Well debian has a lot of language stuff we don't have15:00
Riddelltxwikinger: language stuff?15:00
txwikingeri10n15:01
txwikingerwe have I think 4.0.3 Debian 4.0.015:01
JontheEchidnadantti: Should be BSD license, iirc15:01
txwikingerI have not had the time to understand what the functional difference is15:01
danttiJontheEchidna: hmm so can I change it? what do you suggest to me?15:02
txwikingerRiddell: I will keep in mind to look if we could just sync it from Debian15:02
Riddelldantti: it's BSD indeed http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/BnPG0D2j15:02
JontheEchidnadantti: You'd have to ask mornfall if you could relicense it, I suppose, otherwise it will have to retain the BSD license15:02
Riddelldantti: it's compatible with GPL and LGPL, so you can copy/paste it into GPL or LGPL files, just make sure to include the BSD text too http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/BnPG0D2j15:03
RiddellSandGorgon: no15:03
Riddelltxwikinger: how do you mean i10n?  is there a separate package?15:04
danttiRiddell: that means i can put that ***lplg that kde uses*** and add that bsd text to all files too?15:04
dantti*lgpl15:04
SandGorgondantti, how is the print manager coming along ? any ppa ...15:04
Riddelldantti: yes15:05
txwikingerRiddell: yes.. I think the debian version has more binary packages in the control file15:05
danttiRiddell: k thanks15:05
danttiSandGorgon: you can try it on kde's playground15:05
Riddelltxwikinger: we should follow them in terms of what binary packages get made15:05
txwikingerRiddell: yes15:05
danttiSandGorgon: the add printer is the only missing part, but it's also a bit complex15:05
SandGorgondantti, all right.. cant wait ;)15:06
txwikingerRiddell: I will look at the details.. I just need some more time fo it15:06
danttiSandGorgon: if you don't need to add printers you can test to maybe find some bugs :D15:06
SandGorgondantti, does that I mean I can configure printers using printer-applet and print-manager will use those settings ?15:14
alleedantti: p-m where in playground15:15
allee?15:15
danttiallee: base15:15
alleedantti: ah.   I see it.  thx15:16
danttiSandGorgon: well both should set the settings in cups so the gui doesn't matter15:16
danttiallee: np15:17
alleeare there other distros that will use/support p-m?15:17
danttiallee: I believe since Riddell doesn't have much time to support the current one all of them would start using the new one15:18
allee:)15:18
Riddellonce it gets feature complete it should go into kdeutils and replace the existing ones15:19
alleemhmm, no python anymore in p-m15:22
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SandGorgonI wish someone would do Calibre without python - I love that tool! Maybe after I'm done on my current work, I'll do that15:31
RiddellSandGorgon: what's calibre?15:32
SandGorgonRiddell, document and ebook management - its really quite nice. Best part is the integration with isbndb to pull meta information for books (ISBN, excerpt, publication date, etc.)15:34
RiddellSandGorgon: what's your objecting to python?15:37
SandGorgonI work on a netbook - it consumes too much memory. OT - I actually work on python for webdev15:39
shadeslayerRiddell: do i need to merge the debian changelogs as well?16:05
shadeslayer( regarding kdeartwork )16:05
Riddellshadeslayer: that should already have been done as part of the 4.3.3 merge16:05
shadeslayerah ok :)16:06
shadeslayerso i just need to add the new entry.. 16:06
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shadeslayerRiddell: ok one more thing,im editing the rules file,do i need to add dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp in it or is that automatically detected?16:34
shadeslayeri probably have to do it i think16:34
shadeslayers/do/put16:34
Riddellmaco: bug 582342 misses a debdiff, also there's no test case (it's also a very large non-minimal debdiff)16:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 582342 in gramps (Ubuntu Lucid) "[SRU] Please upgrade Lucid gramps from 3.2.0 to 3.2.3" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58234216:36
Riddellthere's also two uploads of gram in the queue, which should I reject?16:37
macothe older one16:37
macoi missed a bug number out of the changelog entry on it16:37
Riddellshadeslayer: why are you editing the rules file?16:38
shadeslayerRiddell: conversion to 3.0 format....16:38
shadeslayerit used pkg-kde-tools...16:38
macoi know there's no debdiff. when did they re-become a requirement? what i uploaded i a straight sync with maverick. would you prefer that i suggest it to backports even though upstream says it's a bugfix-only release?16:39
Riddellshadeslayer: you shouldn't have to change the build method because of a change in dpkg-source format16:39
shadeslayerRiddell: but shouldnt we use the newer dh --with-kde rules?16:39
Riddellshadeslayer: I think you're confusing dpkg-source format (1.0 v 3.0) and build method (debhelper 7 vs cdbs)16:40
Riddellshadeslayer: we should follow whatever debian does16:40
Riddellno point creating diff from them16:40
shadeslayerok,and one more thing,i should up the version of kde to 4.4.80 or do i let it remain as 4.4 ?16:40
macoRiddell: also, whats uploaded there is still waiting on SRU team AC16:41
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: bump the build-depend version of kde-sc-dev-latest, and leave the other kde*-dev versions alone for now16:41
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok :)16:41
Riddellmaco: I know, SRU are being very unresponsive, probably because pitti and slangasek have moved their dayjob teams16:41
Riddellmaco: but they're unlikely to ack without the required debdiff on the bug or test case16:42
macoRiddell: SRU team are always unresponsive except for when you nag jdong16:42
macoim actually wondering how long itll take for one of them to say something on that bug report if i *dont* PM jdong16:42
Riddellmaco: worrying really, I wonder if someone should be told16:42
macoi dont think 6 is enough people to get through the 300 open bugs they're subscribed to16:43
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: bump the version to 4.4.80 right?16:45
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yep16:46
JontheEchidnadamn, naming a library "R" was a horrible idea16:46
macohahah16:46
shtylmanRiddell: when do we get a new site?16:52
shtylmanwe were *promised* within a week after uds..16:52
Riddellshtylman: goodness knows, I had rickspencer3 poke them yesterday but I doubt it helped16:53
Riddellrickspencer3: any luck or can you poke harder?16:53
rickspencer3Riddell, I can try, yeah16:54
rickspencer3it's squinky, btw, who is assigned to the task16:54
shtylmanmaybe we can prod? .. 16:56
shtylman:p16:56
shadeslayerthis is like installing kde all over again :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/439415/ 17:09
shadeslayershtylman: we need a longer stick with the new kubuntu logo at the end :P17:11
shtylmanum..what?17:11
shadeslayershtylman: regarding the new site... doh!17:11
shtylmanahh17:12
shadeslayerok while running the command cmake .. in extracted kdeartwork sources i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/439421/ 17:15
shadeslayeri know the first error is about not being able to find kde,which is obvious since this is a chroot,what do i do with the 2nd error?17:16
shadeslayernot really a error,more of a warning17:16
shadeslayershould i make a patch?17:17
shadeslayeror  since its just a warning.. i let it be :P17:17
shtylmanshadeslayer: make a patch or just hope of kde-devel and maybe let someone know? ... its not critical17:17
shtylmanbut it is nice to have the build system be clean17:18
shtylmanI would say just let someone know17:18
shtylmanand they can pick the right cmake version that the rest of kde uses17:18
shadeslayershtylman: ok.. ill let the guys at kde-devel know,but for now what do i do with the 4.4.80 package?17:18
shtylmanshadeslayer: you can ignore it?17:19
shadeslayershtylman: ok..17:19
shadeslayershtylman: im installing the build deps for kdeartwork right now,so lets see what happens :P17:20
Quintasan\o17:37
QuintasanJontheEchidna: did you upload the merge?17:39
shadeslayerhehe.. kde-devel says install kdelibs-dev first and then compile.... as if thatll help :P17:43
Riddellshadeslayer: if you haven't installed the build-deps them it's not surprising cmake output complains of missing dependencies17:46
shadeslayerbrb17:47
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: I couldn't. The new attica in maverick breaks KDE 4.4.17:50
JontheEchidnaIt'll get in with KDE 4.517:51
Quintasanoh, okay17:51
QuintasanJontheEchidna: by the way, can I remove README.source now, when we are going to use SrcFormat 3.0?17:51
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: yeppers17:52
Quintasanokay17:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: i was just about to ask the same thing :P17:52
JontheEchidnawe'd be able to drop the quilt build-dep too, except that debian-qt-kde.mk still needs it17:54
JontheEchidnaI must say, 4.5 is being rather tame from a packaging perspective18:06
nixternalgood afternoon18:07
Riddellit's nixternal!18:08
Riddellnixternal: are we ever going to get results from the release survey?18:08
nixternalsure, i can do that18:09
QuintasanJontheEchidna: hgnh, any PROTIPs on editing patches? I usually copy the contents, remove the patch and create a new one under the same name18:13
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: Not really. :( It's a real pain18:13
Quintasanyah18:14
QuintasanJontheEchidna: about kdebase, there is a patch fix_systemsettings_aboutme -> and part of the patch goes like this -> http://wklej.org/id/339902/ -- do we still want it? The rest of the patch is already there18:20
lex79Quintasan: are you doing kdebase 4.5 beta?18:22
Quintasanlex79: yes, and I'm sure I wrote my name on the wiki18:22
lex79nope18:22
Quintasan@_@18:22
JontheEchidnanope18:22
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: we want that bit18:22
lex79uff18:22
JontheEchidnaallee: ^Right? Can chfn do real name yet?18:22
Quintasanlex79: sorry for that, I tend to forget that18:23
lex79ok18:23
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: we could disable the patch entirely for now, and check if full name setting works18:26
Quintasanhmm18:32
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: that patch is not upstream :s18:32
QuintasanI don't have a pbuilder for maverick18:32
JontheEchidnaI think source format 3.0 might have screwed things up when patches failed to apply on a previous patch18:32
JontheEchidnaIt did that to me a few times for kdebase-runtime, and it was very annoying18:32
JontheEchidnaI think it turned out that I hadn't bumped the version to 4.4.80 in debian/changelog, and that fixed it18:33
QuintasanJontheEchidna: which patch is not upstream?18:34
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: the aboutme one18:34
Quintasanoh shit18:35
Quintasanwth18:35
Quintasan@_@18:35
Quintasandamn you quilt18:35
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shadeslayerRiddell: got a sec?18:52
Riddellshadeslayer: always for you baby18:52
shadeslayerhehe.. :18:52
shadeslayerRiddell: ok im almost through with kde artwork,now it compiled successfully,but i need to know why the patches were introduced?18:53
shadeslayerRiddell: and it compiled without any patches :)18:53
Riddellchangelog should say18:53
Riddell01_kxsconfig_fix_screensavers_lookup.diff  dunno, it's from debian18:54
Riddellhas text in it though18:54
Riddellxscreensaver bits can't find deco.xml because that's in the universe package18:54
shadeslayerRiddell: ok so which ones should i keep? ( not very good with patching )18:55
shadeslayerRiddell: what about     - Add 001_cmake_find_xscreensaver.patch18:55
shadeslayerQuintasan_: cut it out :P19:03
* shadeslayer notices how his screen went from grainy to shiny.. in 1 hour!19:03
Quintasan_@_@19:04
Quintasan_what the heck19:04
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shadeslayerbtw im getting these after adding the secret ppa : http://paste.ubuntu.com/439480/ 19:10
ScottKI don't think you should need it for anything we're doing right now.19:17
lex79kdebindings ftbs at 100% :D19:17
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shadeslayerScottK: this is regarding my pastebin?19:19
ScottKshadeslayer: Yes.19:19
ScottKIDK why it's not working, but I think you don't need it.19:19
shadeslayerScottK: actually i do need it,im preparing kdeartwork19:19
shadeslayeri need to test that the package builds with debuild19:19
ScottKFor Maverick, all the other bits are, IIRC, in the archive already.19:20
ScottKI don't think you need it.19:20
shadeslayerScottK: afaik theyre not.. maybe theyre still compiling?19:21
shadeslayerScottK: btw i have maverick in chroot with main enabled..19:21
ScottKActually I was thinking about merges, not the beta, so you may be right.19:22
ScottKSorry for the distractions.19:22
shadeslayerScottK: hehe.. np19:22
shadeslayerScottK: can you help me with the patches kdeartwork has?19:23
ScottKshadeslayer: No.  I'm busy with $WORK stuff I need to pay attention to.19:23
shadeslayeridk which ones to keep... kdeartwork compiles just fine without them19:23
shadeslayerScottK: ok thanks anyways :)19:23
shadeslayerso anyone else who is free? 19:28
shadeslayerlex79: got a sec? can you help me a bit?19:51
lex79shadeslayer: that ^^^ errors is in pbuilder?19:56
shadeslayerlex79: oh no.. the ppa's are now fine19:57
shadeslayerlex79: i need help with the kdeartwork patches19:57
lex79ok, witch patches?19:57
shadeslayerlex79: Riddell said that 01_kxsconfig_fix_screensavers_lookup.diff is from debain..19:57
lex79keep it19:57
lex79keep all patches, remove only patches fixed by upstream or went upstream19:58
shadeslayerlex79: can you branch from : lp:~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu19:58
shadeslayerlex79: well how do i know if they went upstream? im not in contact with them...19:58
lex79see in the source :)19:59
shadeslayerah ok19:59
shadeslayerlex79: looks like ill have to keep both of them...20:01
lex79right20:01
shadeslayerlex79: can i remove README.source?20:03
lex79shadeslayer: did you switch to source format 3.0?20:03
shadeslayerlex79: yes20:03
lex79so you can remove it20:03
shadeslayerok.. apart from that nothing was left... building with debuild20:04
shadeslayerlex79: dpkg-deb: warning: 'debian/plasma-desktopthemes-artwork/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field 'Original-Maintainer'20:08
shadeslayerjust a warning from debuilder...20:08
lex79you can ignore it :)20:08
shadeslayerrunning lintian20:08
shadeslayerlex79: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439500/ 20:09
shadeslayerlex79: ok this one is better : http://paste.ubuntu.com/439501/ 20:10
lex79uhm20:11
lex79do you have gpg installed?20:11
shadeslayerlex79: its in a chroot so i guess no :P20:11
shadeslayerwe can ignore the gpg warning though.. what about the other warnings?20:12
lex79ignore it for now20:12
lex79but do you have the dsc file?20:13
shadeslayerlex79: ok and last thing,i ran dh_install --list-missing and it came up with alot of missing files20:13
shadeslayerlex79: ill make one.. but right now no20:13
lex79eh :) add those file in the .install files :)20:13
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shadeslayerlex79: so i put these files in the .install files right? just direct copy paste20:14
lex79yes, but in the right files....not random please :D20:14
shadeslayerlex79: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439502/  << of course,first 3 in screensavers and rest in the,e20:14
shadeslayer*theme20:14
lex79yes the rest in plasma-desktopthemes-artwork.install20:17
JontheEchidna!find /usr/lib/libGLEW.so20:18
ubottuFile /usr/lib/libGLEW.so found in libglew1.5, libglew1.5-dev20:18
JontheEchidnaHa, kdewebdev compiled without any modifications to .install files. No list-missing output either20:21
shadeslayerlex79: sorry for that.. power outage20:23
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shadeslayerlex79: btw which screensaver file do i add the first 3 entries to?20:24
lex79try in kscreensaver-xsavers.install, if it will ftbs in the ppa, add them to kscreensaver-xsavers-extra.install :)20:28
lex79iirc... JontheEchidna, right ^^^ ?20:28
shadeslayerokies :D20:28
JontheEchidna!find glcells20:29
ubottuFile glcells found in kscreensaver-xsavers-extra, xscreensaver-gl20:29
JontheEchidnaIt should already be in -xsavers-extra20:29
JontheEchidnalist-missing can't find the ones there because we do something special there20:29
JontheEchidna!find fiberlamp20:29
ubottuFile fiberlamp found in kscreensaver-xsavers-extra, xscreensaver-data20:29
JontheEchidna!find glschool20:29
ubottuFile glschool found in kscreensaver-xsavers-extra, xscreensaver-gl20:29
lex79:D20:30
shadeslayerso we already have them? awesome :)20:30
lex79kubotu: find me20:30
shadeslayerheheh20:30
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yeah, just ignore those 320:30
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok and i still have to add the aurorae ones though20:30
lex79check in the install files :)20:30
JontheEchidnayeah... we'll want a new package for the aurorae themes20:31
JontheEchidnaperhaps name it aurorate-themes-artwork20:31
lex79all themes are in plasma-desktopthemes-artwork.install20:31
JontheEchidna-t20:31
JontheEchidnalex79: but those are plasma themes, these are aurorae themes20:32
lex79ah20:32
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/439512/20:34
shadeslayerok.. so new .install file?20:34
lex79yes20:34
shadeslayerlex79: and i wont have to change anything else in control or rule...20:35
lex79you have to add the new package in control20:35
shadeslayerlex79: oh ok20:35
shadeslayerlex79: should i name the package plasma-auroraethemes-artwork.install?20:35
lex79package name: aurorate-themes-artwork20:36
lex79install file: aurorate-themes-artwork.install20:36
shadeslayerdone20:38
shadeslayerlex79: theres a extra t there ^^20:39
lex79aurorate is most funny than aurorae :D20:40
lex79so -t :)20:40
JontheEchidna[15:31:55] <JontheEchidna> -t20:40
JontheEchidna:D20:40
shadeslayerhehe20:40
shadeslayerok what should i write in the descripttion>20:41
shadeslayer-t :P20:41
shadeslayerThis package include several aurorae theme to change plasma colours20:41
shadeslayer settings.20:41
JontheEchidnaIt has nothing to do with plasma, really. Aurorae is a KWin theme20:41
JontheEchidna!info kwin-style-aurorae20:41
ubottuPackage kwin-style-aurorae does not exist in lucid20:41
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: oh ok20:41
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, it got devoured by kdebase-workspace-* in lucid20:42
shadeslayerThis package include several aurorae themes to change window border20:42
shadeslayer styles.20:42
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shadeslayer+kde20:42
JontheEchidnaperhaps capitalize aurorae, but otherwise lookin' good20:43
shadeslayerThis package include several AURORAE themes to change window border20:43
shadeslayer styles.20:43
JontheEchidnawhich reminds me, we need to package that aurorae theme creator off of kde-look20:44
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: no, just Aurorae :P20:44
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: heheh20:44
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439515/20:44
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: check line 193 onwards20:45
shadeslayerim not sure about the replaces part though20:45
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: line 198 should be "themes for the Aurorae KWin decoration engine"20:45
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: Replaces should be removed20:45
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah i was changing that right now :)20:45
JontheEchidnaand this is a bit picky, but I'd like it if it were above the -dbg package instead of below it20:46
shadeslayerhehe... ok ill shift it :P20:46
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: oh, also add aurorae-themes-artwork (>= ${source:Version}) to the depends of the kdeartwork binary package on line 2220:47
shadeslayerah yes20:47
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439517/20:48
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: changelog entry :   * Add aurorae-themes-artwork.install file to install new aurorae windeco20:49
JontheEchidnasounds good to me20:50
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439519/20:50
shadeslayerand if this is good,kdeartwork is done for maverick LD20:51
shadeslayer:D20:51
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: I'd add a note about switching to source format 3.020:52
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: done...20:53
shadeslayeranything else?20:53
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: the debhelper build-depend version needs bumped to >= 7.3.16 for source format 3.020:54
shadeslayeroh didnt know that...20:55
freglapachelogger: dude!20:55
JontheEchidnas/needs to be/should be20:55
freglthe german installation text slide show thingy is full of spelling mistakes for 10.04 :(20:56
shadeslayerfregl: apachelogger is travelling  :)20:56
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: done,so everything is go for debuild -S -sa ?20:56
freglshadeslayer: yes, I was with that evil guy all week-end - it was horrible!20:56
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: should be20:56
fregl;)20:56
shadeslayerfregl: :P20:56
JontheEchidnaall the cute, fluffly evil!20:57
freglyou should use the fluffy! it will bring you happyness20:57
* fregl cringes, every new text during installation contains at least 2 typos or grammar errors it seems20:58
freglthis is horribly embarassing20:58
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: upload with ~ppa0 ?20:58
freglwhere can I get my money back?20:58
ScottKfregl: In two months we'll have 10.04.1 and we can get new install CDs with corrected translations if someone will correct the translations ...20:58
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: ppa120:58
freglScottK: where are they?20:58
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok20:58
freglScottK: I might look at them, currently I'm installing the thing with my flat mate20:59
ScottKfregl: Somewhere in translations.launchpad.net.  Let me see if I can figure it out.20:59
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: dpkg-source: info: using source format `1.0'20:59
shadeslayerhehe20:59
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: forgot to add debian/source/format?20:59
shadeslayeroh i know what i did wrong20:59
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah apparently that got left out when i copied :P20:59
JontheEchidna^^20:59
JontheEchidna*^.^21:00
shadeslayerlintian running :)21:01
shadeslayerN: 1 tag overridden (1 warning)21:01
shadeslayeri wonder what that is..21:01
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok so should i upload?21:02
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yep21:02
ScottKfregl: It'd be the ones that start with ubiquity in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/de21:02
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: that means that there's a lintian-override file somewhere in the packaging that's supressing an error. (presumably a false positive or an unimportant one)21:02
* ScottK knows nothing about how one goes about working on it.21:02
* ScottK thinks there is #ubuntu-translations or such for questions.21:02
JontheEchidnaGot it: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu/de/+translate21:02
freglScottK: if it's normal translations it should be doable (not that I ever did that stuff before)21:03
ScottKIt's "normal" for Ubuntu in Rosetta.  I'm not sure how that relates to normal translations.21:03
freglah, slideshow-kubuntu21:04
ScottKTscheesy can probably give you details on how to translate stuff since I see he's done .de tranlsations work in Launchpad.21:05
freglScottK: thanks for the hint, we found the texts. they are incredibly bad...21:06
freglwho is Jochen Skulj?21:40
Riddellhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~joskulj21:42
freglRiddell: that guy put lots of things like </ em> in the de-translations, so they would show up all italics and lots of other extra spaces and generally an amazing text quality...21:50
freglnot sure if you guys care though...21:50
freglor rather, I know you do, not sure if you can do something21:50
Riddellfregl: I can set our translations man dpm on the case, send me a brief e-mail with the details and I'll forward it to him21:55
freglRiddell: ok, will do21:55
ScottKPerhaps such things are considered normal for Gnome?21:56
freglhehe22:00

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