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Telordyahi?02:54
Telordyais there some kind of Launchpad admins here, I have a question?02:55
thumperTelordya: if you really need an admin, best thing to do is to ask a question on the launchpad project in launchpad itself03:02
thumperTelordya: what question do you have?03:02
Telordyaok03:02
TelordyaI subsribed to a a bug about 1 year ago, but it doesn't affect me anymore, and I still receive email notifications, and I can't see in my settings how to stop it03:03
Telordyamy subscribed bugs list is empty03:05
Telordyaho, I think I found some solution, from "I reported a bug, and now I'm getting spammed with emails. Why? How can I stop it?" in the FAQ03:06
TelordyaI think I fixed it03:11
Telordyathanks anyway03:12
thumper:)03:12
jeblairDoes launchpad run in Lucid?  (https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting mentions only up to Karmic)03:13
spivI think most of the developers run it on Lucid now.03:14
jeblairthanks03:16
ddecatoranyone else running into trouble with loggerhead again?04:55
poolieddecator, are you getting 'please try again'?04:55
ddecatorpoolie: yup04:56
* thumper slumps in his chair04:57
ddecatornow it's working05:10
thumperit was somewhat overloaded05:13
pooliethumper, do you want to catch up sometime06:43
poolieif you're not flat out otday06:43
lifelesspoolie: he's cooking dinner06:48
pooliemm i just realized it's late there06:48
pooliemaybe another day06:48
lifelesshe'll be back06:50
lifelessthere are .eu folk to talk to too06:50
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dutchiehi, I'm trying to download a bzr branch off launchpad onto my debian lenny server, but I can't since lenny only has bzr 1.5. is there a way round this without installing a newer bzr?09:37
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mrevellHey dutchie. I'm not sure. jelmer_, do you know the answer to dutchie's question? ^^^^^09:44
jelmer_dutchie: if the branch is in the 2a format you'll have to upgrade09:59
jelmer_dutchie: there are newer versions of bzr available in backports09:59
lvhHey! I'm having a bit of an lp problem with a particular branch and I'm not sure if I should file a bug or not.10:20
lvhhttps://code.launchpad.net/~lvh/twisted/positioning-statistics10:20
lvh"Upgrade this branch" doesn't work like on other branches (warning goes away, but branch doesn't actually get upgraded)10:20
lvhAlso, "View the branch content" doesn't actually work10:21
lvhsee: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lvh/twisted/positioning-statistics/files10:21
lvhLink just in case I'm the only person who gets Internal Server Error there.10:21
lifelesshas your branch pushed successfully?10:22
lvhMaybe. It's been a long time. How do I check/repair?10:22
lifelessif not, please ask a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad about it10:22
lifelesslvh: bzr push :P10:22
lvhWell, obviously, but I don't have a checkout anymore.10:22
lifelessoh sorry10:22
lifelessI see the issue10:22
lvhSome people reported "it doesn't work" but told me that was because of the branch version10:23
lifelessuhm definitely ask a question, we probably need a losa to poke at it10:23
lvhI think it might just not work because the branch is in a really bad state10:23
lifelesshumour me :)10:23
lvhI'll try a checkout myself first10:23
lvhYeah, checkout doesn't work. bzr: ERROR: CHKInventoryRepository('http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/twisted/trunk/.bzr/repository/') is not compatible with KnitPackRepository('http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lvh/twisted/positioning/.bzr/repository/') different serializers10:28
lvh 10:28
lvhlifeless: Hi! https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/11218310:32
wgrantlvh: Interesting -- I just checked it out fine.10:41
wgrantAlthough it was into an existing repo seeded with lp:twisted, so maybe it didn't have to use the stacked-on branch.10:42
wgrantIndeed, attempting to branch somewhere without a repo downloads about the right volume of data, then dies with that error message.10:46
lvhwgrant: I thought I was checking it out with a repo10:52
wgrantlvh: I just created a clean repo, branched lp:twisted, then was able to branch both of your branches without trouble.10:57
lvhstrange, that's what I thought I had done. Hang on.10:58
lvhWait, should I try that first, or do bzr upgrade lp:... ?10:58
lvhI've been told bzr ought to do remote upgrades too. Inefficiently and slowly, but it should work.10:58
wgrantI suspect that an upgrade will fail, but I'm not sure.10:58
wgrantlifeless: Do you know?10:58
lifelessknow what ?11:01
wgrantIf an upgrade on a branch in this state will succeed.11:01
lifelessoh11:01
lifelessin theory it will work11:01
wgrantOr if one must first obtain a 2a copy then clobber.11:01
lifelessbut in theory the button on the branch page would work too11:01
lifelessI'd get a local copy in 2a11:01
lifelesslftp in and delete the .bzr dir11:01
lifelessthen push --use-existing-dir back to where it came from11:01
lvhDoing on-the-fly conversion from RemoteRepositoryFormat(_network_name='Bazaar RepositoryFormatKnitPack6RichRoot (bzr 1.9)\n') to RepositoryFormat2a().11:02
lvhNow it (appears to) work.11:02
wgrantThis is a checkout into a pre-populated repo?11:03
lvhlvh@lagavulin:~/Development/twisted/positioning$ bzr upgrade .11:06
lvhbzr: ERROR: The branch format Meta directory format 1 is already at the most recent format.11:06
lvhwgrant: Nope, shiny new.11:06
lvhI take it that error is actually a good thing. But first, lunch!11:06
lvhlifeless: <lifeless> lftp in and delete the .bzr dir <lifeless> then push --use-existing-dir back to where it came from # sorry, do not grok11:42
lvhlifeless: Any pointers to relevant documentation?11:42
lvhI have both branches locally in 2a now.11:42
lvhI'm trying the remote upgrade now, fingers crossed, I guess :-)11:45
ftawgrant, bigjools: any update on the status of the ppa stat bug? i need to figure out if i still have enough users for some of my dailies.. so i can drop some of them to spare build resources11:56
wgrantUni is killing me at the moment. It just needs someone to work out a quick hack to limit the script's resource usage until it has completed the log backlog.11:57
bigjoolsfta: there was a problem with resource usage on the backend; wgrant was going to sort out a temporary patch to make it do an initial run, and then we have more work to do to expose the data externally.11:58
bigjoolsah so no he's not :)11:58
wgrantIt's already exposed over the API, but UI is more difficult.11:58
bigjoolsoh you did that already?11:58
wgrantYes.11:58
bigjoolscool11:58
wgrantThe API has been there for a couple of releases.11:58
bigjoolsI missed that for some reason then11:59
ftahm, any pointer where i should start?11:59
wgrantThe easiest is to just hack lp.services.apachelogparser.base.parse_file to return early after parsing some number of lines.12:03
wgrantWhen rerun it will resume where it left off.12:03
wgrantI don't know what that number of lines should be.12:04
wgrantNor do I have the resources at the moment to QA it.12:04
* abogani waves12:08
aboganiAre there some special tricks for build kernels on LP through PPA?12:08
dutchiejelmer_: backports for debian?12:09
jelmer_dutchie: yep12:09
* dutchie googles12:09
lvhwgrant, lifeless: Great news everyone! The two branches have been fixed.12:10
persiaabogani: Does seem strange that uploading essentially the same source with a different name ends up with http://paste.ubuntu.com/439296/12:10
bigjoolsabogani: no, just upload the package and wait for it to builder.  However please make sure it builds locally first (e.g. with pbuilder) before uploading12:10
bigjoolss/builder/build/12:10
aboganibigjools: I have already did it. If you recall me where pbuilder store log I can show it to you! :-)12:12
wgrantabogani: There is a slight trick: the Ubuntu kernel build system always tries to grab the latest ABI data to confirm that an ABI version bump isn't required.12:13
wgrantThis causes problems if it can't find the latest package.12:13
persiaSo one needs to hack around that to bootstrap a new kernel source package?12:13
wgrantI believe the build system has a 'PPA mode', however. This uses the git revision ID as the ABI, eliminating that check that often breaks for PPA builds.12:13
wgrantAt least that's how it was 18 months ago; I've not built a custom kernel on Launchpad since then.12:14
wgrantHm, but that log (which I just noticed now) suggests something different.12:14
aboganiwgrant: I skip ABI check at all.12:15
aboganiwgrant: Could I put an "set -x" at top of copy-modules file (which in turn is executed by kernel-wedge) to avoid than it will be killed?12:31
wgrantabogani: You should prevent it from taking that long.12:33
aboganiwgrant: Sorry I can't do more than which I have already did. I'm already provide the minimum of requirements.12:34
aboganiwgrant: Sorry if I bother you: Do you have some other suggestions?12:44
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jetiennehttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading <- say "Simply follow the instructions in the Uploading packages to this PPA section of your PPA overview page." but where is this page ?14:08
bilalakhtarmrevell: Hi there! I thought that you were going to send me interview-style questions related to gnome-media-player. Thats what you said here a month ago.14:13
mrevelljetienne, If you've activated your PPA, there's a link to it on your Launchpad profile page, which you can find at https://launchpad.net/people/+me14:14
mrevellbilalakhtar, I'll re-send them now14:15
jetiennemrevell: do you know this link ?14:15
jetiennemrevell: or any hint on how to find it ?14:15
bilalakhtarmrevell: FYI, my e-mail address is bilalakhtar96@yahoo.com14:16
mrevelljetienne, If you've activated your PPA, follow the link I posted above and scroll down to the section of the page headed "Personal package archives". It's on the left of the page. Do you see it?14:18
jetiennemrevell: yep but no doc there. only "activating new ppa" and the ppa i activated14:19
jetiennei think i got it tho14:20
jetiennedput ppa:jerome-etienne/neoip neoip-get_0.0.1_source.changes <- the doc likely refere to this syntax14:20
jetienneaka no need to do a .dput.cf14:20
mrevelljetienne, So, you need to follow the link to the PPA you activated and on that page should be the info you need.14:21
jetiennemrevell: ok14:22
jetienneq. with ppa, how to disable building for lpia and amd64?14:59
maxbDoes it really matter to you?15:04
jetiennemaxb: i guess. so should i deduce this is not possible ?15:05
maxbAre you asking because you actually want to avoid those architectures specifically, or because your package is architecture-independent and so should only be built once for all architectures?15:05
jetiennemaxb: im asking because compilation will fail on those arch15:06
maxbInteresting package you've got there! OK, in that case you probably want to declare "Architecture: i386" in your debian/control first stanza15:07
jetienneok thanks15:08
shtylmanany news on when launchpad build from branch will hit?15:08
maxbjetienne: oh, apologies I think I am misremembering. It actually goes in the binary stanzas, not the first stanza15:08
jetiennemaxb: stanza = ?15:09
maxbjetienne: group of lines separated by a blank line15:09
jetiennemaxb: ok thanks15:09
bigjoolsshtylman: Real Soon Now15:10
shtylmanbigjools: :)15:10
shtylmanI can't wait... very exciting15:10
bigjoolsshtylman: we need to get some firewall changes done etc and then we can let it loose15:10
bigjoolsabentley: did that i386-builder-only-thing land?15:10
bigjoolsand CP'ed even15:11
jetienneis there a way to do rsync with dput ? when uploading my package which is 22mbyte... this is long :)15:11
bigjoolsshtylman: yes, it's pretty exciting for us too, we've been working on it since last November15:11
abentleybigjools, I believe so.  rockstar was doing that.15:11
bigjoolsjetienne: no, we only have ftp right now.  sftp is coming soon but that won't help you either :)15:11
jetiennebigjools: ok :)15:12
maxbIf the big part is the upstream source, then make sure you are using an .orig.tar.gz correctly15:12
abentleybigjools, see: "Launchpad Production Cherry Pick r9345" in canonical-launchpad15:13
minjooHello,15:13
bigjoolsabentley: roger, thanks15:14
minjooCan I recover my PPA in Launchpad that I removed before?15:14
bigjoolsminjoo: no, the warning on the deletion page makes that very clear.15:15
minjoobut the PPA NAME in ppa list has been gray color15:16
jetienneq. should i change the version number at each upload ?15:17
bigjoolsminjoo: that's because it retains the history, but the files are all delete15:18
bigjoolsd15:18
bigjoolsjetienne: yes, that's mandatory15:18
jetienneFile neoip-get_0.0.1.tar.gz already exists in neoip, but uploaded version has different contents. <- this is the msg i receive by email15:18
minjoocan i delete that history? bigjools ?15:18
jetiennebigjools: ok15:18
bigjoolsminjoo: no that's not possible yet15:18
minjoobigjools: OMG, thanks.15:19
jetiennebigjools: can i delete an uploaded pacakge ?15:19
jetiennegot it15:20
bigjoolsjetienne: yes15:20
bigjoolsjetienne: you should consider using an orig tarball instead of native tarballs, so you can avoid uploading as much data for each version15:20
jetiennebigjools: i dont understand what you mean. can you elaborate15:21
maxbjetienne: Also, even if you delete a package, you still can't/shouldn't upload the same version number again.15:21
bigjoolsjetienne: you should consult a packaging guide15:21
jetiennedoing a modification to add the build date in the version number15:22
bigjoolsmatsubara: woohoo, OOPS frequencies!15:23
matsubarabigjools, :-)15:23
jetiennethe version is taken from changelog ?15:23
bilalakhtarmrevell: I have rent you the reply15:25
mrevellThanks bilalakhtar15:26
jetiennedch -v 0.0.1build`date +%Y%m%d%H%m` -m15:33
rockstarbigjools, yes, it landed and was CP'ed as well.15:43
bigjoolsrockstar: coolio15:43
rockstarbigjools, this guy? http://goodjobbb.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/coolio_large.jpg15:44
bigjoolsrockstar: aieee15:46
bilalakhtarmrevell: Did you get the mail?15:47
mrevellYes thanks bilalakhtar15:47
bilalakhtarI was concerned whether it went to spam or something15:47
jetiennefor ppa, one can not use pkg-config in my build makefile ? how can i know the proper options ? hardcoded by hand ?15:53
bilalakhtarjetienne: You should add a build-dependency for pkg-config in your debian/control file15:55
jetiennebilalakhtar: oh ok15:55
jetienneq. is there a ccache on the building machines ?16:11
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jpdsjetienne: I don't think so.16:22
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VixorHello, anyone around?17:08
jetienneq. i added a Build-Depends: in control.... but it doesnt seems to be honored by ppa... is it supposed to be?17:10
jetiennegpgv: Signature made Tue May 25 15:48:08 2010 UTC using DSA key ID 5877E4E4  gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found..... but http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xE1698EF696AB4EC9CB312DFFDFAEB2805877E4E4&op=index shows it is available ... how come ?17:19
VixorCan anyone help me??17:21
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jetienneVixor: there is a old saying. "dont ask to ask, just ask"17:26
jetienneVixor: aka ask a question, and dont ask for help17:26
jetienneVixor: not that i will answer the questions you may have :)17:26
Vixorhrhr17:28
Vixorhehe*17:28
Vixorcan I pm you?17:28
VixorI am new to Sikuli, and I am trying to make a macro17:30
Vixorthat will observe a window17:30
Vixorwait till a particulare "text" pops up17:30
Vixorand when it does17:30
Vixorit pastes the "text" onto another window17:30
Vixorwith a text prefixed to it17:30
Vixorfor ex: source text is "going home"17:30
Vixori prefix "i am " while pasting it on the target window17:31
Vixoroutput on target window: "i am going home"17:31
jetienneVixor: another saying is "put a clear well explained message in single line", it improve the chance to get answer17:31
Vixor:|17:32
Vixork lemme put it this way:17:32
jetienneq. apparently previous versions of my packages got deleted from my ppa, is this normal ?17:32
VixorI want a macro that waits for specific text to show on 1 window, n it pastes that text to another window with something prefixed to it17:33
bigjoolsjetienne: yes they are automatically superseded17:33
Vixorare there more functions that the one listed on the left side bar?17:35
jetiennebigjools: is there a way i could reproduce the way building machine are building my package. i still got errors, and each iteration÷attempts costs me 20min.... due to upload time and delay.... rather painfull... if i could test on my local box it would be more efficient17:36
jetienneok booting a vm with a fresh install :)17:38
Vixorahh F made me type17:40
Vixorn now quits17:40
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alkisgHi, I'm not sure if it's a packaging problem or a launchpad problem, but I'm getting the following build error on a package (LTSP) which was previously building OK:17:48
alkisgdpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libpopt.so.0 needed by debian/ltsp-client-core/usr/bin/getltscfg (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').17:48
alkisgIt only errored in the amd64 build, while the i386 build was fine. Here's the full log:17:48
alkisghttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/49075644/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.ltsp_5.2.1-0ubuntu10~ppa0-bzr1745_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:48
geseralkisg: /usr/bin/getltscfg is a 32bit binary while the build is for amd64. why doesn't this binary get rebuild for 64bit?17:53
alkisgI've no idea why. It was building fine the last years up to my last upload 2 weeks ago17:54
alkisgThere hasn't been any change in the rules or the makefiles since the last upload, so I'm puzzled17:55
geseralso no upstream changes not cleaning the file correctly (so it gets rebuild properly)?17:58
alkisggeser: No, the only changes were 10 lines I changed in a bash script which is unrelated to the build process17:59
geserhmm17:59
alkisgHere's the build log of the previous, successful build (2010-05-12): http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48350229/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.ltsp_5.2.1-0ubuntu10~ppa0-bzr1743_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz18:03
geseralkisg: when you look at client/getltscfg/ in the .tar.gz for bzr1745 you see that it's not cleaned18:11
alkisgUgh, then it would be a problem in the cleaning script18:11
geserand therefore make thinks the binary is still uptodate and doesn't rebuild it (make[1]: `getltscfg' is up to date.)18:11
alkisggeser: thank you, I'll have a look18:11
alkisgSorry for the noise :)18:12
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jetiennehouray i got a begining of compilation on ppa :)18:29
shtylmanis there a guide on creating source package recipies?18:57
jetienneshtylman: search for "ubuntu packaging guide"19:52
geser!packaging guide19:55
ubot5The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports19:55
gesershtylman: ^^ there19:55
shtylmangeser: jetienne: I was actually looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/BzrBuilder but thanks19:57
cjohnstonjames_w: are you available for a PM?20:40
james_wyep20:41
alkisgWhat happens if I uploaded a newer package version before an older one starts building? Does the new version "cancel" the building of the older one? Is there any way to cancel a build if I saw something wrong in my code?21:45
BlackZalkisg: are you referring to PPA?21:47
geseralkisg: if the old version didn't start yet the new upload will supersede it, but once it got started it will go on (and the result discarded (IIRC))21:48
geserthere is no way to cancel a currently running build21:49
alkisgBlackZ: yes, sorry I wasn't clear21:49
alkisggeser: that's perfect, thank you21:49
maxbThe superseded builds only get marked as such when they reach the head of the queue, by the way, so don't expect them to be removed from the build queue before that21:53
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ftaanyone for a quick ppa quota boost? https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable/+packages   or should i file a question?22:02
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thumperfta: file a question23:25
ftathumper, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/11225523:26
mthaddonfta: so 10G?23:26
mthaddonthat's been done23:27
ftathanks23:28
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