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[00:43] <SteamInc> Anybody know wre i can get a 10.10 Beta or alpha?
[00:48] <arand> !release | SteamInc
[00:48] <ubottu> SteamInc: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[00:48] <arand> SteamInc: You can't
[00:49] <SteamInc> Yea i know I checked alpha is coming out July 3rd
[00:49] <SteamInc> *June 3rd*
[00:50] <SteamInc> Later
[00:51] <BUGa_KickAss> but you can upgrade from lucid
[00:51]  * arand is not sure if it would be appropriate to hint sources.list in these cases, I have a feeling not... BUGa_KickAss: Left
[00:51] <BUGa_KickAss> but if you are asking, then you are not experience enough to upgrade
[00:52] <arand> BUGa_KickAss: he/she is gone.
[00:52] <BUGa_KickAss> I saw
[00:52] <BUGa_KickAss> I'm sleepy, grogy
[00:53] <arand> Hence the kickass? Ironic? asskicked?
[00:55] <BUGa_KickAss> movie
[00:55] <h00k> If you don't mind watching the language in here, it would be much appreciated :)
[02:55] <DanaG1> hmm, anything worthwhile in +1 yet? =þ
[03:34] <arand> DanaG1: Crashing?
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[09:02]  * BUGabundo_remote says Hi... to the rain :[
[09:04] <jpds> Yay, rain.
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> jpds: it was like 27-30ºC all weekend :(
[09:06] <jpds> BUGabundo_remote: Yes, same in London.
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> the beaches were filed with ppl
[09:06]  * jpds not a fan of hot weather.
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> and now rain... took me 20 extra minutes, cause of floods in the street
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> \
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> http://yfrog.com/2c3rzdj.
[09:33] <ior3k> since about the end of last week, I can't launch GTK emacs
[09:33] <ior3k> I get "X protocol error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) on protocol request 152"
[09:33] <ior3k> anyone know what may be causing this?
[09:33] <vega> it's a feature, use vi :P
[09:36] <ior3k> ha
[09:37] <baddog_> ior3k, might be something with the ARGB stuff in gtk
[09:37] <baddog_> try export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[09:37] <baddog_>  first, then run emacs from the terminal
[09:37] <baddog_> that works for me, though I didn't have the exact same error
[09:38] <ior3k> baddog_: that's exactly it
[09:38] <baddog_> mhm
[09:38] <ior3k> baddog_: so was there an update to gtk that caused this?
[09:39] <baddog_> So far as I know, yeah
[09:39] <ior3k> (and should I file a bug?)
[09:39] <baddog_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/585196
[09:39] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 585196 in emacs23 (Ubuntu) "emacs fails to start: X protocol error" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:39] <ior3k> ah, thanks
[09:39] <baddog_> I filed it earlier today ;)
[09:41] <ior3k> hmm, I wonder why this is considered of low importance
[09:42] <baddog_> I don't know ._.
[09:42] <baddog_> although, it's low importance to gtk, not emacs
[09:43]  * baddog_ shrugs
[09:43] <baddog_> It seems like it's broken quite a bit, from what I can see
[09:43] <ior3k> oh, well
[09:43] <ior3k> thanks for the workaround, baddog_
[09:44] <baddog_> 'salright :)
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[15:24] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[15:30] <arand> hoy
[15:32] <eagles0513875> are there isos floating about for maverick or not yet
[15:33] <eagles0513875> just the upgrade method from lucid to maverick
[15:36] <BUGabundo_remote> yes eagles0513875
[15:37] <gnomefreak> iso's should hit until ~A1
[15:37] <eagles0513875> im nto worried about upgrading from lucid to maverick
[15:37] <eagles0513875> now if there is a package i need to rebuild do i repackage it against maverick
[15:37] <eagles0513875> or can i build packages for maverick on lucid
[15:38] <gnomefreak> chroot of some kind i cant think of what the other one is called
[15:38] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: best to stick with #kubuntu-offtopic for this
[15:39] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: well im wanting to get somethign repackaged for lucid backports possible even for maverick though so i was just wondering. would offtopic still be more appropriate in regards to that
[15:40] <gnomefreak> yes this is not 10.10 support
[15:42] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: im not asking for support just how would one package something for the next release using the current supported release or the next release to package something
[15:43] <arand> I thought this was specifically 10.10 support? ↑ topic?
[15:45] <eagles0513875> lol i think he meant 10.04 support
[15:46] <arand> ahh.
[15:50] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: building packages does not == support for this channel or for #ubuntu. use either one of the packaging channels or an -ot channel please
[15:50] <eagles0513875> ok gnomefreak
[15:50] <gnomefreak> ty
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[18:05] <BUGabundo_remote> bbl
[19:01] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:45] <bilalakhtar> om26er: You mean to say that there is a lot of ram usage?
[19:46] <om26er> bilalakhtar, the ram usage is fine, there seems to be a memory leak somewhere which eats all swap space eventually
[19:46] <om26er> and then in the end system becomes unusable and have to kill X
[19:46] <bilalakhtar> om26er: ok. Now try to find out which package is causing that leak
[19:47] <bilalakhtar> om26er: You have to switch to a virtual console to kill it, right?
[19:47] <om26er> bilalakhtar, maybe X
[19:47] <om26er> ctrl+sysrq+k
[19:47] <om26er> that would be 'alt;
[19:47] <bilalakhtar> om26er: Is it like bug #565981 ?
[19:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 565981 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Lucid) "[KMS] gem objects not deallocated" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565981
[19:48] <om26er> symptoms are exactly same
[19:49] <bilalakhtar> om26er: Maybe ubuntu devs are testing the new glx on maverick
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[20:33] <svu> chrisccoulson, ping?
[20:39] <BUGabundo_Bones> can your browser open this? http://㐃蔁.sl.pt
[20:39] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo_Bones: mine can
[20:39] <BUGabundo_Bones> humm we got a new font too :)
[20:40] <alex_mayorga> empathy doesn't show the first character in the URL though
[20:41] <BUGabundo_Bones> don't you guys love the weight of that page ? no thumbs
[20:41] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo_Bones: sound like a fine festival
[20:41] <BUGabundo_Bones> it is
[20:41] <BUGabundo_Bones> but a very poorly done page
[20:41] <alex_mayorga> yup, it is still loading here
[20:41] <BUGabundo_Bones> but finally chromium fixed utf8
[20:42] <alex_mayorga> my guess is they're serving the posters full size, dumb
[20:42] <alex_mayorga> or maybe everyone in .pt has fiber to the home ;)
[20:44] <BUGabundo_Bones> haahhahahahaha
[20:44] <BUGabundo_Bones> its the 1st
[20:48] <BUGabundo_Bones> can your browser open this? http://%u3403%u8501.sl.pt
[20:57] <chrisccoulson> hi svu
[20:59] <svu> chrisccoulson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbutils/+bug/377967
[20:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 377967 in usbutils (Ubuntu) "Incorrect(?) USB Id in the database: 1941:8021 Watson W-8681" [Low,New]
[20:59] <svu> chrisccoulson, how would we find out who's the real owner?
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> heh, it's been quite a long time since i looked at that ;)
[21:00] <svu> I know:)
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> svu - i probably looked here: http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> apparently it is a Dream Link USB Missile Launcher
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> whatever one of those is ;)
[21:02] <svu> well, the question is what is the source of that file?
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> oh
[21:02] <svu> who's feeding it?
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> you already said that in your bug report. i'm not sure where that data comes from
[21:02] <svu> heh. nice situation
[21:02] <svu> Just today I got a mail from another guy
[21:03] <svu> who has different model but the same chip
[21:03] <chrisccoulson> the vendor ID's are controlled by www.usb.org, but i don't know if they publish the list of vendors
[21:04] <svu> chrisccoulson, if they don't - I hate them :)
[21:05] <svu> (but would not be surprised)
[21:05] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo_Bones: "Firefox can't find the server at %u3403%u8501.sl.pt."
[21:09] <BUGabundo_Bones> :(
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> svu - http://www.usb.org/developers/tools/comp_dump
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> dream link isn't on the list though :/
[21:10] <svu> chrisccoulson, sweet:)
[21:10] <svu> 1941 is not allocated
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> svu - it's actually 6465 on that list (decimal), but that's still not allocated anyway
[21:11] <svu> I'd challenge dream link
[21:11] <svu> oh, it is decimal
[21:11] <svu> I did not reallize
[21:11] <svu> anyway...
[21:12] <svu> so, what would be the procedure? Just patch the usb.ids file in ubuntu?
[21:12] <svu> send the bug upstream?
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[21:20] <chrisccoulson> svu - i'm not too sure really
[21:22] <svu> chrisccoulson, at least, do you have authority to patch files for ubuntu? even if you do not know what to do with upstream. Or do you still have doubts that would be the right thing to fix?
[21:27] <chrisccoulson> svu - i generally don't touch anything in that part of the stack, and i'm not too sure where the change would need to go (probably in the kernel)
[21:27] <svu> chrisccoulson, yes, the kernel looks like the proper place. Perhaps it is worth asking at lkml? if not about particular id, at least about the procedure
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> you could ask on #ubuntu-kernel too
[21:47] <svu> join #ubuntu-kernel
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[22:35] <dupondje> What are the serious bugs known atm ?
[22:35] <dupondje> I heard nouveau broken & firefox ?
[22:44] <BUGabundo_Chuck> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[22:44] <BUGabundo_Chuck> YAY
[22:46] <sebsebseb> BUGabundo_Chuck: Chromium fan boys :(
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Firefox :)
[22:46] <BUGabundo_Chuck> FLOSS FTW
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Free Linux Open Source Software ?
[22:57] <kuadrosx> sebsebseb:  free/libre/open source software
[22:58] <sebsebseb> kuadrosx: ah yes Libre
[22:58] <sebsebseb> I knew that, just forgot  or something.  and I tend to call it
[22:59] <sebsebseb> opensource/freesoftware and then also explain to people what is meant by free software so as in Freedoom,  source code available to general public so proggrammers from all over  the world can contribute,  that kind of stuff yeah
[22:59] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[22:59] <ubottu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
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