[00:22] . [00:48] is there a way to install apps in cygwin from the cygwin shell? [00:49] not sure [00:49] havent tried it.... [00:51] got opennssh installed on my win7 box logged in and there isnt a bleedin editor [00:52] hehe, that sucks [00:53] i once found a really friendly beginner coding channel and couldnt find it again. maybe its that ubuntu dev beginner channel. [00:54] i ll check it out some time. cheers stlsaint === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === zz_severity1 is now known as severity1 [05:20] I am running 10.04 and have truecrypt installed. Beginning today, when I try to start truecrypt, it says it's already running. It is not in the process list from system>admin>system monitor. Is there another place to check if it is really running? [05:21] you can run 'top' in a terminal [05:25] Hmmm. Not there. Not sure whether to be happy about that. Maybe I need to see if there is a truecrypt channel. [05:26] i'm not sure how much cpu it would use, so it might just not be showing up [05:30] I tried killall and it said no process found. I assume the process would be named truecrypt (that's the file name from properties anyway) [05:33] is there a listing for it in System > Preferences > Startup Applications? [05:34] No. I figured it out. It had a lock file, but not with the encrypted file/volume (where I was looking). Just needed rm ~/.TrueCrypt-lock- Thanks for the help. [05:35] no problem [05:35] I probably didn't unmount it when shutting down before. I would have thought that would happen with a normal shutdown, though. === compiledkernel is now known as Guest69328 [11:43] morning all === Guest69328 is now known as compiledkernel [14:48] wb hobgoblin =] [14:48] hi mohi2911 [14:48] sup hobgoblin? [14:48] tea [14:48] :) [14:48] mohi2911: I'm fine ty - and you? [14:49] well i drunk KEROSINE by mistake :'( [14:49] D: [14:49] vomitted four times and still its making me to have a vomitting sensation [14:49] eeeugh - I got a mouthful once when siphoning - not nice [14:49] :o [14:50] if you are still shooting the cat then I would be inclined towards talking to someone with a white coat [14:51] heh and Chesamo you laughed for it :( [14:51] well I would laugh too - but not if you;re still being sick [14:51] N-no [14:52] dee-colon is a "oh no" face [14:52] You're thinking of colon-dee [14:52] okies [14:52] i think i ll laugh tomorrow [14:53] well we'll laugh when you leave to get ahead of the game [14:58] mohi2911: it could be a lot worse - "A 17-year-old boy died after being tied to a tree, made to drink petrol and then set on fire, detectives have said. " [14:59] :( dont scare me hobgoblin :'( [14:59] everyone got their towel? [15:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_Day [15:00] I also have peanuts and beer [15:01] * mohi2911 steals the beer from hobgoblin [15:01] compiledkernel: I haz..... virtual towel? That counts too right? [15:01] Also hiya compiledkernel :) [15:01] * hobgoblin reminds mohi2911 that would be a very bad idea [15:01] hey starcraftman [15:02] hobgoblin: dont PING starcraftman [15:02] * starcraftman smacs mohi2911 with a fish. [15:02] * hobgoblin supplies more fish for starcraftman [15:02] hobgoblin: thanks. [15:02] * mohi2911 is not pinging starcraftman [15:03] * starcraftman buries mohi2911 in fish. [15:03] :) [15:03] its a decoy :P [15:03] feesh [15:03] feeeeeeesh! [15:04] Chesamo: too much mercury in the system huh? [15:04] * Chesamo feels really out of place since she hasn't finished reading the Hitchhiker's Guide [15:04] * hobgoblin thought tuna was ok now [15:04] Chesamo - for shame ... [15:04] :) [15:05] Chesamo: what? What??? How much have you read? [15:05] * Chesamo hides in the Corner of Shame, without even a towel to her name [15:05] starcraftman: The first few chapters... I picked a bad time to start reading a book and never really got around to finishing it [15:06] now is a good time to finish it then - you have a few hours to do so [15:06] Chesamo: noooooo. That's it, I'm making a new motion at next meeting that all members MUST have read the guide. At least first few books. [15:06] hobgoblin: Unfortunately I'm at work [15:06] hobgoblin, starcraftman what you think about http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10134655.stm ?? [15:06] Restaurant at end of universe was classic. [15:06] Chesamo: hide in the loo then :) [15:07] starcraftman: +1 [15:08] mohi2911: great, I'll get a computer one day that makes a mistake on 2 + 2 but does it really fast. [15:08] starcraftman =] [15:09] Chesamo: seriously though, do get a read of at least first two books. They are great science fiction/comedy. At the very least then you can come out of the corner. [15:09] starcraftman: Yess'm massah [15:09] small and easy to hide in a towel they are [15:09] wow we are smoking in main channel O_O [15:10] mohi2911: aye, probably should talk in team before someone stomps us. [15:10] eh... [15:10] I shall speak to you all another day then - bye [15:10] xD! [15:11] later hobgoblin, guess I'll browse reddit. [15:12] Everything goes better to Dream Theater. [15:12] :) I'll just hang about not talking to anyone [15:12] hobgoblin: oh bah, nvm, it's not like anyone's popped in here asking for support yet. Tis a quiet tuesday morn. [15:13] * mohi2911 makes hobgoblin to open his mouth and say "QUACK!!!!!" [15:32] starcraftman: indeed it is :) [16:46] well i leave for college in the morning anybody have some fond words of advice? [16:46] coffee [16:46] ...aaaaand that's pretty much it [16:47] what about tea is that a substitute for coffee? [16:47] if it has caffeine ;) [16:47] dark earl grey [16:48] * ddecator doesn't know if that does or not [16:48] it does [16:48] also ill be consuming large amounts of coffee [16:48] then you're all set [16:48] straight black [16:49] if the first sip doesnt cause you to make a face its not strong enough [16:49] best way [16:52] Raidsong: coffee between midnight and 5Am - tea the rest of the time [16:52] very red and strong stewed for a whole day tea will work [16:52] hobgoblin, whats your tea of choice? [16:53] just bog standard tea tea - not into any of those fancy types :) [16:53] bah one much understand the tea before you can brew the perfect cup [16:58] :) [16:58] you have a good time and make the most of the experience is about all the real advice I could give :) [16:59] Raidsong: have a nice day in school =] [17:00] How do I remove the menu bar for gnome terminal? So that it is hidden by default? [17:01] oh man i had never noticed there was a menu bar [17:01] that would have coem in handy yesterday [17:04] haha [17:04] pfffhaha [17:04] tdn: http://www.techmetica.com/howto/improve-the-gnome-terminal-look-and-feel-in-ubuntu/ the last point might help you =] [17:04] View > Show Menubar (although not sure if that will change the default) [17:05] tdn: run it as gnome-terminal --hide menubar [17:05] ddecator: will that work??^^ [17:05] tdn: run it as gnome-terminal --hide-menubar I mean [17:05] hobgoblin, cool! Thanks. [17:05] mohi2911: no idea, i just saw the option in the view menu haha [17:05] or as ddecator said - same thing [17:06] you could also use tilda instead - do all sorts with that [17:06] I forgot someone named hobgoblin is here :D [17:06] never forget myths [17:07] youre not a myth [17:07] youre here right now [17:07] hobgoblin: create a wiki for all operations with terminal commands plz :D [17:07] Raidsong: goto School :P [17:07] Raidsong: you think I am ... [17:07] mohi2911, you go to school [17:08] mohi2911: it's called the man pages :P [17:08] hobgoblin, yes, yes i do. im talking to you right now [17:08] Raidsong: college life over for me :P [17:08] * ddecator actually does have to go to school [17:08] mohi2911, go again [17:08] ddecator, school is fun [17:08] Raidsong: NO [17:08] mohi2911, it would be fun [17:08] Raidsong: no - actually you're not - you're assuming that it's not a dream infested with a myth and a binch of other people you think talk to you :D [17:09] mohi2911, you can go fro anthropology like me [17:09] Chesamo: well i know about manual. but do want to know all terminal codes dumped in a link =] [17:09] tdn: is that working for you? [17:09] hobgoblin, that could be so but this is the first time ive talked to ddecator [17:09] i think [17:09] mohi2911: That page would be three miles long [17:09] ah lol [17:09] ddecator is not here Raidsong [17:09] i'm imaginary [17:09] hobgoblin, if they are not here why can i tab to them [17:09] * mohi2911 imagines ddecator [17:10] ddecator: you might be the junior of pablorubianes (Humpty dumpty 2) :P [17:10] hobgoblin = hobgoblin x i [17:10] i made you real [17:10] :o [17:11] or made you imaginary its been a while [17:11] isn't it xi/i = x? [17:11] Raidsong: x(- i) [17:11] :P [17:11] that too [17:11] i x i = -1 [17:11] so hobgoblin = -1? [17:11] dont make hobgoblin a negative person by your EVIL math :/ [17:12] Raidsong: i said > Raidsong: x(- i) [17:12] the maths prove hobgoblin is both real and evil [17:12] so i made hobgoblin positive Raidsong :P [17:12] lol [17:12] mohi2911, i work for fox news ill make up the facts here [17:12] * Silver_Fox_ is EVIL , which is > evil [17:12] Raidsong: how evil would you like me to be [17:13] Raidsong: fox news or Silver_Fox_ news?? :P [17:13] :O [17:13] hobgoblin, evil enough to have a sufficient evil laugh [17:14] just fox news i would never insult Silver_Fox_ like that [17:14] OMG i think the nick will change to Elfy [17:14] shall stay as hobgoblin then I think Raidsong [17:14] elfy piskie and forestpiskie are too laid back for hobgoblin [17:14] ohhhh [17:14] hobgoblin, seems so. [17:15] dont need too much evil in here [17:15] Raidsong: preach us something [17:15] most mad scientists are just mad engineers [17:15] tdn: excellent - though I often use tilda - especially if I have had to drop out of xchat [17:16] tilda? [17:16] building a death ray doesnt make you a mad scientist unless you taker over the world and leave a control group or something === Silver_Fox_ is now known as Evil_Silver_Fox_ [17:16] Tilde? [17:16] oh no [17:16] ~ [17:16] Tilde. [17:16] ~ <-- tilde [17:16] tdn: it is a terminal type thingy [17:16] Ok [17:16] ! <- tilde [17:16] * Evil_Silver_Fox_ is helping [17:17] not really [17:17] ^<--tilde [17:17] :) [17:17] Thats the nicest thing you have ever said to me [17:17] :) [17:17] ha ha ha ha [17:17] tdn: for more info Tilda was forwarded for the following post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=700751 [17:17] hobgoblin: have a look on it ^^ === Raidsong is now known as Gyro_Gearloose [17:18] * mohi2911 tightens the loosened Gyro_Gearloose [17:18] oh sorry i dont drink [17:18] i feel im too young to use tight in that context [17:18] ] [17:19] o/ DiegoTc [17:19] mohi2911: I know what it is :) I also have it set to the same geometry as xchat so if I need to use it - it sits in the same space on the same desktop without covering anything else - of course using devilspie means it opens where I want it to as well [17:19] xD [17:19] hell DiegoTc - long time no speak [17:19] hello I mean :) [17:19] hi hobgoblin [17:19] hobgoblin, would it not be easier to just move it when it opens? [17:19] hobgoblin: well i asked whether i am showing him the exact thread to be or not =] [17:20] Gyro_Gearloose: I have devilspie working anyway [17:20] hobgoblin, i have my wireless working [17:20] I don't use compiz - or I would use place windows [17:20] oh good - was it not then? was that you the other day with one ? [17:21] it was [17:21] * mohi2911 is on ubuntu server right now as his old 8.10 distro crashed :'( [17:21] * hobgoblin ages as his son reached 21 [17:21] * Gyro_Gearloose talks in the 3rd person [17:21] Gyro_Gearloose: memory is not what it was on sunday ... [17:21] * mohi2911 turns hobgoblin into sweet 16 [17:21] * hobgoblin just talks nonsense Gyro_Gearloose [17:22] hobgoblin, tilda segfaults on my system. [17:22] hobgoblin, i didnt even know sunday was the day i had the problem [17:22] mohi2911: you'd have not been born for years when I was 16 [17:22] tdn: really? [17:22] true :) [17:22] hobgoblin, really. [17:22] hobgoblin, youre what 22? [17:23] Gyro_Gearloose: square each numbers separately :P [17:23] tdn: mmm - well I've never had that - try reinstalling it [17:24] hobgoblin, will try that later. [17:24] tdn also try removing the config in your home [17:25] tdn they are in .tilda [17:26] tdn: there was a bug n jaunty apparently [17:28] lets all go to hawaii [17:28] Gyro_Gearloose: first GOTO SCHOOL [17:29] mohi2911, you go to school first [17:29] Gyro_Gearloose: its 22:00 here and if i go to school now, they all will scream that a GHOST came :/ [17:30] mohi2911, video it and put it on youtube [17:30] lol NO [17:31] oh come on [17:31] it would be funny [17:31] nao [17:32] 1 [17:32] NO [17:33] now now children - settle down - it will soon be home time [17:34] k [17:34] :P [17:34] :) [17:34] hobgoblin, youre the same age as the rest of us [17:34] ...combined [17:34] lol [17:34] Gyro_Gearloose is lucky I am no longer voiced :D [17:34] hahaha [17:35] i wouldnt have said it if you were [17:35] you have to take these shots when they come up [17:36] Gyro_Gearloose: want me to create a chance for hobgoblin to kick you?? :P [17:36] mohi2911, not really [17:36] heh. anyways, Gyro_Gearloose at what time school starts?? [17:36] that seems like it would be inopportune for me [17:37] Gyro_Gearloose: lol [17:37] i check into my dorm at 9 am tomarrow [17:37] oh no fluffy is gone [17:37] Shame [17:39] the day after my check in is orientation and on the 1st i begin classes [17:42] I expect it will be interesting - anthropology sounds different :) [17:42] not what I would expect someone to say they were doing :) [17:42] anthropology is related to archeology [17:42] i wanted to play in the dirt for a living [17:44] my little brother is almos t finished with his masters archaeology [17:45] and I did some when I did my hippy degree [17:45] archeology isnt exclusively offered at my school but i take archeology classes [17:46] since anthropology is basically applied archeology [17:46] it was where he went - they do a lot of environmental stuff there as well [17:46] * hobgoblin went to same place [17:46] they teach archeology theory and how to dig and what not [17:48] I did a dig in the depths of dorset - found a skeleton I did - the archae lot missed it :) [17:48] i want to find some skeletons [17:49] * mohi2911 gives Gyro_Gearloose the skeleton of Chesamo [17:49] 8V [17:49] * Chesamo flops on the ground, lacking a skeleton [17:50] lol === compiledkernel is now known as Guest99220 [18:04] hobgoblin, I did not change any config. [18:05] Good evening, i've got a problem with the installation of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS from CD-ROM, the boot goes ok, i see the ubuntu symbol with the dot that tell me the loading, but after loaded, the monitor comes black... :( i think is a resolution problem, can anyone help me? [18:07] Red^Phoenix: i dont think its a resolution issue. and you downloaded Lucid from our official website?? [18:07] yes, dowloaded from official website (no bittorrrent or similar) [18:09] is an a bit old pc, but it have 380 mb of RAM (so i think to not use the alternate installation) [18:10] now i'm trying the alternate installation, that working on textual, so i hope to succeed to installa :) [18:12] however if the resolution still don't work, there's a method to change it? [18:13] Red^Phoenix: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467809 that might help a bit i think [18:16] thanks mohi :) i've searched something in italian ubuntu forums, but i haven't found anything... THANKS A LOT! [18:18] Red^Phoenix: ok =] [19:21] anyone here ever got Touhou Danmakufu working on linux? [19:22] The game? [19:22] ya [19:26] Google says no. [19:28] I don't know if this'll help you: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4473 [19:31] doesnt help much as I already have that game working [19:31] * Chesamo shrugs [19:31] the AppDB doesn't have an entry for Danmakufu === Guest99220 is now known as compiledkernel === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [20:27] hi guys, i've been partitioning from the live cd and now grub just doesn't load [20:27] the thing is, dev/sda6, the boot partition, is now dev/sda1(and i deleted two partitions more), and update-grub isn't working [20:27] i just get: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). [20:28] CtrlAlt: silly question, but did you mount /dev? [20:29] i mounted dev/sda1 [20:29] where should i mount /dev? [20:31] CtrlAlt: Different error [20:31] CtrlAlt: That's a very unusual error to get. Why did you mount /dev/sda1? [20:31] because it's the boot partition... [20:32] CtrlAlt: What are you running update-grub off of? [20:32] or should be :) [20:33] i'm running 'sudo update-grub /mnt' , wich is where i mounted /dev/sda1 [20:34] you mounted it onto /mnt? [20:34] That's.... unusual [20:35] mmh... why? [20:36] Well, the convention is to mount devices into folders inside /mnt, not /mnt itself [20:39] I often just mount in /mnt when I'm doing a quick job in a livecd :) [20:39] yeah, but i don't need to mount any other device... anyway, i don't think that's the problem :) [20:40] thst's it, hobgoblin :) [20:41] I guess this is grub2 [20:41] yes, it is [20:41] Ah. Grub2 is weird [20:41] yes, it is :P [20:41] * hobgoblin loves that one ... [20:42] I usually follow the wiki for reinstalling grub2 - it's worked everytime for me [20:42] CtrlAlt: have you seen that? [20:43] no, i've been searching for the error [20:44] hang on [20:44] i mean, grub is installed and it was woring [20:44] *working perfectly [20:44] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [20:44] yea - if you've moved partitions about it might have got lost now that it's uber complicated :) [20:46] i thought i could get it working "quickly" by running udate-grub, but... [20:47] *sigh" [20:49] CtrlAlt: if you've *really* confused grub, then http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363 may be of help to you. [20:53] the kernels are there, but they were in /dev/sda6, which now doesn't exist. and since /boot/grub/grub.cfg is still the old one and it can't be updated.... [20:54] delete the old one. [20:54] Or rename it to grub.cfg.old [20:55] Wait, GRUB2 uses special modular files... have you looked into that? I think the old location of the kernels is still in the GRUB configuration [20:58] i'll try reinstalling it following the wiki, reboot and tell you how it went ok? :) [21:00] oh wait [21:00] i already did that [21:01] well i'll try again, wish me luck :P [21:07] yes, it worked! :D [21:11] :) [21:11] now, i'm just wondering that i maybe forgot to flag /dev/sda1 as bootable and the other error was just completely unrelated; as i rebooted (and grub2 loaded :) ), all the old partition were still showed on the menu... or were they supposed to be there after reinstalling? [21:12] they shouldn't be there I think - if you are in the installed OS now try running update-grub again see if they go now [21:12] i already did it :) [21:13] now everything is (or should be) ok [21:13] and they still show? [21:13] oic :) [21:13] no, only the two kernels of this partition and memtest [21:15] yea - I was catching up and typing as I read lol [21:15] sup team [21:17] hehe ok hobgoblin... ah, again on my desktop... :) [21:18] I hate grub errors - never sure whether it'll work till you reboot :) [21:19] and I'm not usre if supergrub works with grub2 yet either - though I do like the option to add an iso to the grub menu now - I have partedmagic in my list :) [21:19] I shall have to see if it does and I'll add that one as well :) [21:21] until now, i've installed ubuntu on three machines.... i've had a different grub error on each one of them -.- [21:22] heh - you should be an old hand then :) [21:22] and hi ZachK_ [21:22] lol [21:22] hey hobgoblin [21:23] logs look better now ZachK_ ;) [21:28] hobgoblin: thanks [21:28] hobgoblin: bluefish came in handy for that thing [21:29] heh [21:29] yeah [21:29] so how ya been? [21:30] I couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head - !# something or other [21:30] I'm good - just chilling out - about ot shut down for the day :) been a long one - summer is here - I wake with the sun :( [21:30] yeah me too.... [21:31] spring and autumn are ok - I'd be waking up that that time anyway - more or less :) [21:31] in the winter I am like a bear with a sore head for a couple of hours [21:33] lol === Mann-mit-dem-Gli is now known as Mann-mit-Glied [23:15] what does the & mean in "&I'd love to be translated" ? === severity1 is now known as zz_severity1 [23:24] In qt apps, the & signifies the mnemonic [23:26] For instance, If a menu option is "E&xit", then hitting Alt+x on the keyboard will trigger it. [23:35] ok thanks :) [23:52] greetings all. Anyone good with Banshee? Ned to understand why there are duplicate imports from audio cds that are 2 seconds shorter?